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"Your problem is you don't communicate enough." No, the problem is you're both narcissists that only hear what you want to hear and are worried that the other person will discover your true, insecure self that has nothing to do with the other person in the relationship and everything to do with you. Also, there's no soul mate. Also, abortions aren't a "good thing". Also, endless dating doesn't solve the problem that you're a narcissist who, again, is unwilling to share his/her true self because …
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:18 PM
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You have a girlfriend, dude. Maybe not verbally, but in practice. You shouldn't be seeing her so often. When you want to be friends with benefits, you don't see each other more than once a week, or this will happen. That's a pretty hard rule. If you see her more two things happen: you show that you are interested in being more than just friends by the amount of time you spend together, and you go through a lot of shit together. Boyfriends go through a lot of shit. Not fwb.
/r/seduction09/05/19 04:22 PM
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No it's from heartiste
/r/seduction08/05/19 06:09 PM
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"Do you know what time is?" "Like, the construct?"
/r/seduction01/05/19 05:02 PM
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When I open my gym our motto will be "Anyone can be a 6"
/r/seduction30/04/19 03:16 PM
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If it's not your stop, don't get off the bus. You have until her bus stop to ask her out.
/r/seduction24/04/19 03:36 AM
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Point to seat next to her. You mind if I... flirt? lol ​ Do you think it would be acceptable if I got off the same stop as her next time to ask her out? ​ Good god don't do this.
/r/seduction23/04/19 11:30 PM
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Confucius say if you get no girl was she really no girl
/r/seduction23/04/19 05:49 PM
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Agree. The tactics (palm reading, etc) are outdated, but the theory (attract before building comfort before seducing) is a very important concept to understand.
/r/seduction23/04/19 04:42 PM
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A man that has no insecurities is an attractive man. The behaviors and actions that are seen as "spitting good game" is a manifestation of the lack of internal insecurities. It's complicated because you don't see the struggle players went through to overcome their insecurities. We only see the behaviors. There's no "one thing" to learn. Game is about overcoming your own insecurities and displaying that to the world.
/r/seduction23/04/19 03:41 PM
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lol yeah this. If she's alone with you on couch/bed she's down for whatever. Don't say anything. Bring her face to you and kiss her. Doesn't matter where in the relationship you are.
/r/seduction22/04/19 08:30 PM
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No, you're wrong. It's 80% mental - getting over your insecurities and able to be cool. Looks fall into that 20% with things like money and other things you can be insecure about.
/r/seduction18/04/19 10:15 PM
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So game can convince a girl to have sex with an ugly guy? Yep. Good looking doesn't make up everything women find attractive. Danny De Vito would slay. You don't need to be a hilarious celebrity to get laid. But you need to have something. Keep working on being more charming. Don't stop.
/r/seduction18/04/19 09:38 PM
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You can read mystery method or take an RSD program, or you can just read the seddit material (we got good stuff here). You have to go out and talk to women. You will not get better without doing that.
/r/seduction18/04/19 09:33 PM
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You're welcome. I like helping dudes that are actually committed to getting better (pretty rare). Keep a positive attitude. Maintain that there are skills you're working on, while also remaining open-minded about each interaction you have - especially while you're in the moment. Cheers.
/r/seduction18/04/19 08:21 PM
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I find myself able to build an emotional connection to them but I'm beginning to think they aren't feel the same towards me. Agree. Just your expressing interest in a connection shows that you're not a psychopath or woman-hater. I might need more practice This is it, man. Keep in mind the ol' Mystery Method - you should be building attraction before you can build comfort (which is likely to be the connection you're seeking). I might just have a bad personality at this point. I'm really not sure …
/r/seduction18/04/19 06:13 PM
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people will treat you the way they think you want to be treated Totally agree. being cold makes people think it's okay to be rude sometimes because they think you don't really care. I can probably speak to any examples you can give. Coldness is kind of a spectrum. There's "I'm not talking to you" or even "You're a bitch" if a girl does something you don't like. But there's also, "I'm not skipping work to hang out with you, even if it is your birthday." The latter is an example of something you w…
/r/seduction18/04/19 05:57 PM
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The reason I started seduction was to get laid and it's been fun but I honestly would prefer a relationship at this point. No matter what your goals are, you're going to have to seduce her at some point :) I only point that out since seduction isn't the issue. My issue here is I don't think my looks are that much of a problem. I'm also not too awkward and im not creepy either. Your looks aren't the problem. She was clearly attracted to you enough to sleep with you (I assume). Attraction isn't ju…
/r/seduction18/04/19 05:18 PM
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Yeah but are you interested in being that charming person? Looking at game/charm as a sum of skills (eg body language, eye contact, making things sexual) - is that a better way to look at it? Like, I wasn't a boxer but could physically hit someone, even though I couldn't win a fight. Then I learned how to stand and move, how to punch, how to defend, and now I'm a (not good) boxer. It didn't mean I was a terrible person when I was just a fan of the sport or wanted to be good.
/r/seduction18/04/19 05:01 PM
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Hey man, been a while. Good to see you're still around these parts. I don't disagree with the PUA image problem, but I do want to discuss a couple things in your post. Men and women have differences. But high-fiving is still an easy and casual way to take a girl's temperature, talking about sports or politics might actually be good topics depending on the girl, and touching a girl's legs instead of talking to them, is just failure to calibrate. You don't just launch into touching her legs. My ex…
/r/seduction16/04/19 04:12 PM
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To become an alpha means to actually believe in those characteristics (aloof, leader, etc). These characteristics can be congruent with being a good person. It just means you have boundaries and will will not bend those in order to please a girl. This is healthy for you, and attractive to her. some girls can see right through your attitude and realize what a sweet, nice and shy guy you really are Girls are wired to look for this. The phrase "shit test" is used on this forum. Girls test the alpha…
/r/seduction15/04/19 08:26 PM
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I (dude) had this conversation recently. Chick I was seeing once a month asked me after sex, "What are we doing?" I said, "This is it. There is nothing else, and there won't be." I've since told her we can't have sex because she was let on with only seeing me once a month, which I found strange. So I ended it. So, the conversation created boundaries, which is a good thing. It's not what she wanted, but either way it's good that the conversation put us both on the same page. I didn't realize her …
/r/seduction15/04/19 03:25 PM
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but guys always say they’re clueless and need directness and forwardness. Not the guys you're attracted to. If you're not finding guys that aren't clueless, look somewhere else. What else am I supposed to provide them with, then? Think feminine. You want to spend time with him, be a part of his life - and you're lucky to do that. That's an attractive attitude for chicks to have.
/r/seduction11/04/19 06:03 PM
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You're right. It is a catch-22. The dude's you will be attracted to will have other options. Being forward and direct are more masculine traits, which you find attractive but the masculine man doesn't. What's funny about your observation is that it's the "men who have no game and are terrible at sex" are the most likely to only want sex. The dude's you're attracted to can get laid. What else do you offer them?
/r/seduction11/04/19 05:46 PM
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"Yes I'd like to tease her and even dominate her in the bedroom but only if she knew it wasn't real and that her boundaries are respected. I want her to feel wanted and desired and eventually loved." This is what's wrong with "nice guys". It's your mindset. You're dishonest. You want to appear to be dominant but you aren't really dominant. Women are attracted to dominant men. If you want to be attractive, you must be dominant. You seem to understand that. It's not enough to pretend to be dominan…
/r/seduction11/04/19 03:46 PM
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It's a very worthwhile concept to think about. Especially dudes roaming around this seduction corner of the internet. Let me know if you have questions :) Either way, props for writing about these subjects and sharing.
/r/seduction11/04/19 03:11 PM
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Good man. "Attractive" isn't the same as "good looking". While this is the case for women, women are attracted to other qualities in men (see: power, game). I'll never recommend a dude spend time and money grooming. If you're all good, I'm all good :)
/r/seduction10/04/19 11:57 PM
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You're not attractive. Read more about attraction/seduction and apply it. It will come.
/r/seduction10/04/19 10:34 PM
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Yeah, u/bigbobperson is right about alpha being a natural phenomenon. The article linked to calls it a social construct and that's demonstrably false. Every pua and most women's behavior validates that alpha/beta behavior is indeed natural. The only piece from the article that's worth salt is that being an alpha male doesn't lead to happiness, but this isn't explored from a worthwhile perspective. While being an alpha at the top of a social group is attractive (to women, business partners, etc),…
/r/seduction10/04/19 05:19 PM
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You come across as an attractive man, but you're not honest. Girls see through the facade when they spend more time with you. Get over any insecurities you have (and you do have insecurities) and women will want to continue to spend time with you.
/r/seduction10/04/19 03:11 PM
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I get that. My point stands. If you date a girl, and then leave her, no matter how long you were together, she is necessarily not better off. In fact, the longer you're with her, the worse for her.
/r/seduction09/04/19 03:04 PM
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Women will like that. And it will get you laid. She will be worse off, long-term, for having met a good man who chose not to stay in her life. She will be worse off because she will be less attractive while looking for something more attractive.
/r/seduction09/04/19 04:15 AM
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No! You don't get it, silly. This article is for people past the approach. Past sex too. The gym approach was a joke because this sub's full of regurgitated approach questions. Just when I thought we were on the same page lol
/r/seduction09/04/19 04:14 AM
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Strongly agree with everything you said. My post is definitely targeted for any advanced folks around here, but also for newbies that are willing to consider a different point of view. Which I don't expect to gain much traction, because of the reasons you listed. Either way, thanks for commenting. Now let's get back to the real conversation of "should I approach her in the gym" ;)
/r/seduction09/04/19 03:43 AM
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That's fine. I just don't want dudes to depend on that. I used to post in the bodybuilding Misc shitshow lol and dudes would be like, "I bench 500 lbs why won't girls talk to me." It's cuz they're girls. Not because you need to bench more. That's my main point. It's fine if you're ok with a girl approaching. Nothing wrong with that. Just not my cuppa.
/r/seduction08/04/19 10:19 PM
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You're going to have to change this, bro. If she's standing near you, let alone talk to you, you should take it as an IOI. Girls won't ask you out. They're fucking terrified of rejection. More than you are. I don't find it attractive when a girl initiates.
/r/seduction08/04/19 08:39 PM
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No. You can attract about anyone given the right circumstances. It's by far the most common for like to attract like. Black people date black people, high-status people date high-status people, and trailer dwellers date people with sunburns on their necks. There's obviously exceptions to this, but this is most common. Go for what you're attracted to bro. It doesn't really matter as far as attraction dynamics are concerned. Family values can come into play, but attraction principles stand. Also, …
/r/seduction07/04/19 12:36 AM
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Working to get over your desire for sex is pretty much the opposite goal of this subreddit. That's naive. ​
/r/seduction05/04/19 04:42 PM
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Your parents are wise and don't want you to fall into the same pitfalls as most people, in this case the want for more sex. See the obsession of people on this sub for examples of unhealthy obsession. Read old books, realize your parents aren't doing that to "control you" but in fact exactly the opposite, don't watch porn, and work on getting over your desire for sex. Not only will you become stronger mentally by practicing this, but being strong mentally is also an attractive quality. For when …
/r/seduction05/04/19 01:35 AM
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This guy is right. One good thing about having a month left in college is you can use the time to work on specific things. If you're coming across as "too friendly" or "too aggressive" (I doubt you're being too aggressive) you can work on this. Consider it a sandbox where you won't see the people who judge you or think of you as creepy ever again. Try stuff. Take risks. Be bold. What do you have to lose? Your reputation? From people that you'll never see again? Who cares ;)
/r/seduction04/04/19 09:04 PM
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The real world is the same way. Yeah she's got dudes swiping at her left and right and approaching her left and right. She doesn't owe you anything. Run your game. Don't expect her to pitch in until you've shown yourself worthy.
/r/seduction02/04/19 10:45 PM
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Yeah this is a common reaction. People are stubborn generally. Even when we want to help. Even when others ask us for help because they see us having results, they fail to do anything we recommend. To OP: can't say I lost friends because I learned game. While morally some people will have issues (and that's fine) it didn't really affect my friend circle. The skills picked up in game translate to building friendships. Calibration, having fun, being honest...
/r/seduction02/04/19 09:32 PM
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A girl will wait for a dude til the weekend if he's a great man. So no, that's not why they're in an open relationship. Text her next week something like "Hey come get your umbrella and play ;)" As far as prompting fwb, there's nothing for you to really do extra. Hit her up occasionally to hang. If she asks what you want, tell her you're not going to make her your girlfriend. And don't take her on dates involving more than one drink.
/r/seduction06/12/18 03:53 PM
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Real social dynamics
/r/seduction06/12/18 03:50 PM
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What do you normally do? My favorite things are talking, reading, and sex. If you like doing those, you'll be fine. If you like sea-side drives with her then the uber bill will get expensive.
/r/seduction06/12/18 01:43 AM
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I think you can click my username. I was just being flashy to build credibility lol. Point is, yes, you can have a girlfriend without driving. Let me know any specific questions you have.
/r/seduction06/12/18 01:33 AM
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I don't have a car. Check my post history lol. You'll be ok. My advice, be creative and content with what you can do in your neighborhood and bedroom lol. And don't be insecure about it.
/r/seduction06/12/18 01:13 AM
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lol I like it. OP, the main thing is to stop being insecure about it. I know baby-faces that crush puss. If you grow a beard and look older, then women will challenge other aspects of your life ("you're too young" "your car is old" "why don't you own a dog??"). Women do this to see if you're insecure. Women don't want to be with an insecure dude. Kill your insecurities, because women are born to sniff those out. "Yeah right you're not 26." "You're right I actually want a sugar momma to take me o…
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:52 AM
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Good for you @canarywocoalmine He's right OP. But hey, you've got a month off. Talk to women every day. Build up your social skills and get some experiences talking (at least) with women.
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:45 AM
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" she started to moan faster, breathing heavily, touching my head and wrapping her legs around my head (good signs? " Yeah these are good things lol. A fwb thing can work out pretty easily if she's in an open relationship. Especially well if you are 'good' ;) Sounds like she wants to get her rocks off outside of her relationship. Couple things to note Most girls (in my experience blah blah) that are in open relationships looking to hookup are in that situation because they aren't satisfied at ho…
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:42 AM
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Those are cool things, but if you're talking about meeting chicks through classes, take a dance class. Ballroom or (better) salsa. ​ Or take a class from RSD. Most of those guys not only teach game but also give exercises to push you to meet women and apply the skills. I'm no shill. They have good stuff for what (I understand) you're looking for.
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:31 AM
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Sexual tension is awesome lol. in any other situation I'd say keep it up, but flirting at work is weird these days. I'd touch you, but some guys may need a little more push lol. Ask him to happy hour. Tease.
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:28 AM
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Have condoms ready too ;) ​ You seem like you're in great shape. The chick totally into you - she talked about it - you won't get much more of an IOI than that. Except one IOI - she is coming over to your house to "watch movies" lol. That's an even stronger ioi. ​ She's ready to accept your moves. ​ More generally, you don't need to kiss on the first date. You should start an interaction by trying to build some attraction. It sounds like you did this. If you are able to do that, and spend time g…
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:27 AM
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She wants you to be strong - in mind, emotions and (!!) body. ​ Pussy wall won't close but it can well up if you play it right. Maximize success by never being sick. Plan b, don't appear sick. Plan c, you do you ;)
/r/seduction06/12/18 12:20 AM
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Reschedule. You want to feel strong on your dates. If you can't do that while you're sick, don't go. ​ Don't apologize. Don't explain yourself. "Hey I can't do tonight. How bout Sunday?"
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:33 PM
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Good for you man and congrats on the recent results. Depending on the size of your school (less than 10,000? Less than 3,000?) if you really want to improve your social skills you may need to go to the nearest city to get your number of interactions up. However, I doubt that, if it's even a reasonable size school. You have so many opportunities to practice social skills in your classes, in your dorm, and at those weekend parties. ​ As far as your issue initiating, that's just something you need …
/r/seduction05/12/18 05:41 AM
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Go out 5+ days a week and talk to women. You will get in "the zone" and stay there because you get so used to the social interaction. Good things happen fast when you're going out that often and talking to that many women. ​ It really is the only way. Don't rely on crutches (alcohol/drugs/a favorite song). Just go out, be positive, and start running your mouth.
/r/seduction05/12/18 05:33 AM
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I don't like the "texting is for logistics" answer. If you meet a girl in a bar, the next day she's going to be in a completely different mindset than when you got her number. So, you can't just jump in and act like you're resuming the conversation. You need to build back to that in most cases (unless you both invested a lot in the initial interaction). Connect with her emotionally. ​ Advanced dudes can build attraction through text. Master pimps can attract and build comfort and basically skip …
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:56 AM
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Great comment. ​ OP, having a car and the fact that you lost some weight don't make you attractive. Women are attracted to great men. Why should they be attracted to you? ​ Keep losing weight, sure. But talk to them. That not-looking-them-in-the-eyes isn't any good.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:46 AM
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What's your goal, dude? You're going to have to talk to her at some point. That means your social skills need to be good enough to keep a conversation going and interesting. You build social skills by talking to people in the real world. Once you can attract women in the real world you will have good enough social skills to attract women online, but you won't need to, because you can attract women in the real world.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:42 AM
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"Hey we should workout sometime. Let's start with toe curls ;)"
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:38 AM
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First of all, don't use "literal". Especially when you're on Tinder. She's 5-10 pounds heavier than her most recent photo. ​ You're treating her special, which you shouldn't be doing. What do you say to the girls that you aren't already-in-love with? Say that.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:36 AM
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If your goal is to attract a woman, then she will be most attracted to you if she is more invested than you are. She is attracted to the challenge of a great man with many options. ​ If your goal is marriage/monogamy, then if you have similar values and place the relationship above attraction, you may love her as much as she loves you. ​ If she or you values attraction over building a relationship together, then as soon as you are as invested as she is, she will be less attracted to you (you are…
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:30 AM
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Going on dates with fat chicks is not good for you. Best case your date goes well, and you've realized you're capable of banging an unattractive girl. That means you still aren't attractive enough to bang an attractive girl. Lose-lose. ​ Get out there and flirt with girls you want to do stuff with. ​ Plus you're doing a disservice by getting fat girls hopes up. Swipe left so they realize they aren't attractive.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:26 AM
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Go to bars, dude. If you're near a financial district happy hours will be rocking and full of chicks. ​ Financial districts are also great for day game. Hit on girls on their walk to the transit. Tons of people out. Say something to them.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:22 AM
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I usually shuffle my spotify which will play punk rock then hip hop then a geno bisconte comedy album. ​ I love my spotify shuffle including geno's standup and girls dig that I like what I like and am comfortable playing it. ​ If you like Marvin Gaye, play it. If you like the Menzingers, she won't really care. Can't tell you how many girls "hate country" and get down to my country songs when they come on.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:20 AM
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When you're going out a lot (5+ days a week) and talking to people, you get so used to approaching and interacting that it blends into a constant set. Usually the flirting at grocery stores starts by "going out" to bars to hit on chicks 5 days in a row. Then you have momentum, stories, energy, and experience talking to people. You're then much more likely to say "hi" to the girl at the grocery store. Or, preferably, "oh heyyyy ;)"
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:18 AM
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"its definitely easier to go from friend to love interest" ​ lol nah girl you're wrong. Strong text game does not mean being indirect or "friendly". ​ Agree with what you said about offending. If you're going to attract, you need to stand out. It's much harder to stand out online versus in real life. To stand out you need to take risks. You don't have to be funny, but you need to be creative. If you can come across as mysterious or sexy without being funny then just as much power to you.
/r/seduction05/12/18 04:11 AM
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I dunno @trpmkb12. He did say "girls" in a group. I'd ask one if she wants to hang out sometime, her friend if she will record, her other friend if she can hold the microphone, and her other friend if she can stand as doorman while you all hang out. Hard to say without context if there are more girls, but you can provide jobs for them too.
/r/seduction21/11/17 12:08 AM
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Nah dude don't do online dating. You gotta attack your inhibition - which right now sounds like it's approaching and talking to women. You'll become attractive by building social skills which are built by talking to women and interacting with them in the real world. Learn to read body language, be charming, maintain your posture - these are things you have to do on a date. You can practice in bars tonight or you can wait til you get a match. If she agrees to a date. Don't wait. Online apps are a…
/r/seduction20/11/17 11:57 PM
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If you like dancing, dance. Because you like dancing. If you don't, don't do it to impress women. I took a couple latin dance classes and liked it. Take the class if you're looking to try something new, and if you like dancing with women, then ya, take the class and learn how.
/r/seduction20/11/17 11:45 PM
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"It's cool. Hey I saw something cool the other day..." Meaning don't dwell on it. Either move the conversation along or (like @throwawaypua said with his "only a few (today)" comment) agree and amplify by having fun with it. Don't get down, awkward, or try-hard. She didn't get the app today ;)
/r/seduction14/11/17 07:18 PM
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Less kino.
/r/seduction14/11/17 04:48 PM
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Ya. Girls don't go to bars by themselves. It's hard. You have to do it though. It takes good game to create a connection with her friends around (cuz you gotta make her friends comfortable too). You will fail. But then you'll get better. And then, one day, you'll have a strong relationship because of the skills you developed and the action you took. Or three relationships.
/r/seduction14/11/17 04:02 PM
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In the age of distraction and immediate pleasure, honesty and virtue stand out. In long term with mature partners, your game better be strong and your creativity sharp.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:56 AM
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is there any advice you guys can give me about getting over the rejection, since this is the first time I went for broke and straight up asked? How long did it take you guys to get over the first few rejections when you seddited? What’s the best way to motivate myself to start again with a new lady and to get rid of the last bits of oneitis? Positive vibes only please! Talk to three girls tomorrow. Then talk to three girls on Wednesday. Three girls on Thursday. Friday? Three girls. Talk to three…
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:49 AM
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Yeah be fun. "Hey what's up" she got 4 times today. "Whatchu doin" she got 3 times today. "Last night was fun lets hang sometime" she got 3 times today. Be fun. "What if she doesn't like the crazy fun thing I'm dying to say?" She hasn't been liking your other texts. Do something different.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:43 AM
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I missed you the last few months throwawaypua. The game is still strong. Just haven't been posting lol.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:40 AM
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One suggestion is to do these things out of a positive place instead of one where you're just trying to appear alpha/something you're not. For instance, your first bullet - instead of not giving a fuck about the hot chick when you join a group, add some fun and funny to the whole party. They'll be much more pleased to help you than if you just act mysterious and aloof to the girl. Your approach can work, but it's less fun and comes from a less healthy mindset. It's more healthy, and you will spe…
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:32 AM
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You should have led off with the overthinking statement lol. Now I'm in battle mode.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:22 AM
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You go to a bar and talk to people. "Oh but that requires leaving the house and having social skills." wtf were you gonna do when you got a date? Online dating is a reward for dudes that have the rest of their life figured out lol.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:22 AM
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There is something to learn from it. She likes challenging men and now challenging men are finding younger and hotter girls so she's "maturing and wants to settle down". She still wants the challenge. Even if not as openly anymore.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:17 AM
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Maybe she's maturing and accepting herself more. The phrase you're looking for is "the wall" lol Then again, statistically speaking it doesn't tend to work out very long with anyone who considers FWB a routine and normal option. Cite sources? FWB -> main chick -> monogamous works out very well for dudes that apply it honestly. It's rare that dudes do so honestly, which is a shame. I recommend it. I wouldn't overthink this. Too late I'm overthinking your post. Normally you would be a "safe choice…
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:15 AM
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Self amusement is important, but so is being socially calibrated. "own your dad" comment went over well. You won. Then you fumbled in the end zone. Calling out daddy issues with a wink puts you in uncalibrated-Weinstein land. Be cool and be more socially savvy next time. Talk about politics and religion before you talk computers and daddy issues with chicks.
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:09 AM
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This isn't chemistry. He met a girl that had sharper wit than he did (which he thinks is attractive) and he acted like she was better than him because of that and when you start acting worse than a woman you're with you're done. Few things. Don't see anyone as "better" than you. They're not. They've lived their life experiences and you have yours. Even if they're more eloquent, they aren't better. Remember than now when you're learning to be confident and attractive, and remember that when you'r…
/r/seduction14/11/17 06:03 AM
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I'm one to recommend learning game from dudes that are good at game (rare) instead of women. I don't deny that some women are self aware and can speak to game, but learning about the psychology of attraction and proper relationship dynamics is not something that dudes learn from women/pop culture/everything we're ever told. It does take learning game from dudes that know game. That's why this sub exists. That's why the "pickup community" is a thing. Obviously (this thread highlights cases) the l…
/r/seduction21/06/17 11:25 PM
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Subset of mental masturbators: "Will [activity that's no approaching girls] get me better at approaching girls? [I don't want to approach girls.]"
/r/seduction21/06/17 11:03 PM
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Guys that are good with women dont hang around in subs like these. Nah. We would rather talk about women and relationship dynamics than work. Gotta do something from 9-5 ;)
/r/seduction21/06/17 05:09 PM
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I strongly disagree, but I get your point. Yes, you can meet girls with similar hobbies and that's one thing you have in common. You're not going to understand if you will work long-term whether you meet a girl in a bar or in a volleyball league. If you're compatible with values, sexually, personality. To get to know a girl on that level, you're going to have to: Text her? Setup a drink? What if you hate her personality? Yes. Maybe you have intimate conversations during rock climbing, but you ge…
/r/seduction21/06/17 05:06 PM
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Of course they are there to make friends and bond. Even moreso with girls at the gym. You need at least someone else to play volleyball. You don't need ANYONE or ANYTHING to get in shape. Especially women that don't lift weights. You can run and bike and do situps outside. You get to present yourself to in-shape people when you go to the game. The gym is a fairly welcoming environment. Like bars where dudes get rejected, women will keep going because they can meet a good dude. There are shitty d…
/r/seduction21/06/17 04:10 PM
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Good work in this discussion, bro.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:49 PM
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Girls are just in volleyball leagues to play volleyball.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:47 PM
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It was popular to segregate gyms with gender-specific rooms until recently. Quickly becoming a thing of the past.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:37 PM
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lol girls can wear baggy basketball shorts and t-shirts. I'm not going to talk to a girl in baggy basketball shorts and a t-shirt at the gym. It's not attractive and she probably is there just to workout. Actually I might talk to her, but I'm weird lol. Dude's not saying gawk. He's saying talk to her. Cuz she wants to meet a cool dude. Not a dude that gawks.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:35 PM
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How can i let her down without hurting her ? Do it asap and do it honestly. You probably are going to hurt her. That's the nature of relationships - usually one person is more invested and in this case it's her. Tell her you're not interested in dating, and put an end to it. Don't waste her time, and don't lead her on.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:14 PM
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Eh, this is the case for getting laid. Yeah, chicks can get laid if they want. A good dude though is not going to have issues getting phone numbers/sex, even after a relationship. When a good dude breaks off a relationship with a chick, that can be devastating to the girl. Good dudes are damn hard to find. Yeah she can go out to a bar and talk to 10 dudes. But the chances that one of those 10 are cool, can make her feel as positive as her ex did, and is into her, and is looking for a relationshi…
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:59 PM
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It's important to keep your social skills sharp, and I find it just fun to socialize with people. I'm in a monogamous relationship, but love flirting. I had a run where I was leading girls on, and I don't like that, so I'm cutting that out. These days I have a lot of fun just talking to chicks about relationships and just giving them a good, fun, honest time. I agree with u/truecrisis that you're looking for validation, which won't come from us or other women.
/r/seduction15/06/17 03:58 PM
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Yup. You won't learn this from listening to women. You will learn from observing and from listening to men that are good with women.
/r/seduction14/06/17 05:37 PM
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You could work on yourself. Your personality, your social skills, GAME. Or, sure man. Fat girls need love.
/r/seduction14/06/17 05:18 PM
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If you want to keep a girl as a FWB, you need to communicate to her that she is a FWB. Verbally and in your behaviors. You aren't doing that right now. Your behaviors are saying "I want a girlfriend." Youve been seeing a girl a few times a week for a few weeks If you don't want her to be your girlfriend, you don't see her more than once a week. That's a pretty hard rule. Even my main chick when I was running with a lot of women I would not see more than once a week (she got a weekend day though …
/r/seduction14/06/17 02:53 PM
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That's all it is :) Funny that's the slang we picked up for it. No wonder we get a bad rap from mainstream. That said, the fact that game isn't mainstream is mind-boggling to me.
/r/seduction13/06/17 09:45 PM
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Threatening in a pickup sense means that you are a sexual threat to her. You make it known that you are not here to "be friends" or "give or receive information". You're here to fuck. You make yourself a threat in a number of ways. Challenge her, be physical, sexual and carefree conversation. lol our community needs a new word for that. Threatening def sounds life threatening. Don't want the newbies catching the wrong idea taking girls to the woods cuz they need to be a threat ;)
/r/seduction13/06/17 09:13 PM
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Keep practicing man. You know what you need to do. No reading will get you over that hump - that's on you. Maintain your frame, talk about anything, and keep smiling and pushing the interaction forward. It will get easier and easier with the more experiences you rack up. Rack up some of those experiences this weekend.
/r/seduction09/06/17 08:47 PM
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RSD infields -> get out there and do it. Or any pua infields. Point is, you said it yourself - you know what to do from the "great posts and guides here". Get out and do it. There are subtleties you may need further help with at some point, but you will get better when you start going out and applying what you're reading and watching. Even those subtleties though, you'll be aware enough as your game develops to know what went wrong where and develop ideas as to why. Also: The way we all learned …
/r/seduction09/06/17 03:36 PM
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See the response from u/reddit_waste - he wrote all that is necessary. The fact that you are willing to wear the unusual piece of clothing and not fold to the social pressure of needing to conform could be displaying that you are confident and dominant in that particular way, increasing your chances of generating attraction. Good comment, u/reddit_waste
/r/seduction08/06/17 10:57 PM
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Just lol at dudes trying to get laid without wearing gold hat.
/r/seduction08/06/17 03:42 PM
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I know this post is a bit of a ramble but I hope it explains how so far in my life I don’t think the right moment has come along for me to meet the right girl. You thought college was going to be different socially than high school and it wasn't. What's going to be different about the next phase in your life? At some point you need to take action. You say you don't want a girlfriend and you're happy with your celibate life, but here you are posting in seduction reddit. I think you're lying to yo…
/r/seduction07/06/17 10:25 PM
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Go to loud nightclubs and approach women. It will scare the fucking shit out of you and you'll push the hell out of your introvert comfort zone and you'll grow as a person. DO IT.
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:17 PM
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I agree with most of what you said. In particular: If you want to "pick up" at a club, then JOIN the fun there. You need to be opening non-verbally. Smiles and eye contact. Dancing. Gestures. Those are your openers. But, I strong disagree here: Note: If you don't like dancing, then don't go to a club. Period. I don't really dance when I'm out meeting girls. And hot girls go to clubs. What's a man to do if he doesn't want to dance and wants to meet the concentrated hot girls at a club? I have sho…
/r/seduction07/06/17 05:39 PM
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as my confidence and dance skill improve, that I'm getting a lot of IOIs. That's awesome that you're getting the success you want, but you're linking confidence to dance skill. You don't have to do that, and for long-term strength in a relationship, you should disassociate your happiness/confidence/success with women - with dancing. You will get all the IOIs you need by letting go of that connection to dancing/everything else and maintaining your inner cool and sharing that with women. I'm not k…
/r/seduction07/06/17 04:24 PM
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lol can guys take note? Your comment seems to have been skipped over. There's been this big push for dancing lately in this here seduction community. Even if you're the best dancer ever, you're going to have to stop and face the reality of the relationship at some point. Learn game. There are no short cuts.
/r/seduction06/06/17 11:14 PM
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YES
/r/seduction06/06/17 10:09 PM
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It's like people want to do everything to get girls, besides actually just approaching girls. Probably a lot of other subreddits to check out for all those. C'mon people. I like your attitude Eezay. Fortunately for this sub, there are guys like you that come here to actually learn about how to attract a woman. They approach women which is a novel concept around here and is the only way to prove the theories we preach. Whether fortunately or unfortunately, the guys that are actually here to learn…
/r/seduction06/06/17 10:05 PM
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Explain to him what you're going to do. "I'm going to bring girls back to the hotel. How do you want us to handle that?" Not exclusive options: sex in bathroom, he goes for a walk and you get the beds, he watches.
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:55 PM
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We know to get to know more girls we have to expand our social groups. Nah. Just go out and seduce women. What do you do and why does it attract more females? I flirt. That is my hobby.
/r/seduction06/06/17 04:15 PM
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Think to yourself, if you were a girl, would you talk to George Costanza from the "greatest sitcom of all time", or the dude from accounting with a full head of hair? You can be valuable af without hair, and without staring in a sitcom.
/r/seduction06/06/17 03:56 PM
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That's the mindset to have when interacting with women. Don't see anyone as "above you". Make her prove herself beyond just have a pussy.
/r/seduction06/06/17 02:26 PM
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"I'm better than her."
/r/seduction06/06/17 02:17 PM
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Say the words, "I'm breaking up with you." It's harsh, but get the point across that the two of you are done and leave no room for ambiguity. Define the new relationship. If you still want sex, tell her. Note this leaves room for future feelings to be hurt/led on. If you don't want to see her again, make that clear.
/r/seduction06/06/17 01:50 PM
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Looks are not the be-all-end-all of seduction. +1 I didn't even consider looks when writing my comment lol. Your attraction is based on a lot, hardly looks. DrDrePhones. You will be less attractive as a man if you get plastic surgery. Looks is not equal to attraction. Plus, beautiful dudes can be boring af. If you're better than boring af, you're better than those beautiful dudes that are. Be better than them. Don't be boring af. No girl wants to date a beautiful bore. More so, no girl wants to …
/r/seduction05/06/17 09:59 PM
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lol dudes be like How can I get the friendship with this chick going good again? like chicks want to be friends with a boring loser. If you want to have ANY relationship with a woman, you have to be attractive. YOU choose the type of relationship (romantic, one night, friendship) but you won't have any relationship if you aren't attractive. What's the right move in this particular situation? No more messages. Don't message her unless she hits you up (then reply) for one month. Then you can text …
/r/seduction05/06/17 09:13 PM
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5 double shots. Just kidding. These days I'm pretty much "in state". When I walk out the door, I'm ready. I don't recommend not doing the exercises you listed - do whatever works. But I do recommend maybe going out once a week where you don't do those. At all. Just get up and go. You don't want to be dependent on any exercises/on anything at all. Get some positive references with no warm up and realize the physical warm up was entirely mental to begin with ;)
/r/seduction05/06/17 04:47 PM
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You're wrong about that. There are few exceptions which means the tenets apply to nearly all women.
/r/seduction02/06/17 05:01 PM
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These are harmful beliefs, even if true. Red pill teachings aren't inherently harmful. They're difficult to grasp because they go against all social conditioning - everything we were told growing up. That's why it got the catchy Matrix name. These psychological principles are important to understand so that you can have a realistic, healthy view and handling of your relationship/s. Note that I don't read much of r/redpill so I don't know really what's there. But Rollo and CH and the pickup commu…
/r/seduction02/06/17 05:00 PM
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Don't handshake. Either give a hug or say hi.
/r/seduction01/06/17 06:11 PM
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For the most part Not trying to generalize Which is it bro? lol Also, you're wrong. Women aren't really after money and OP should absolutely not wait to ask her out. If OP does wait, the girl will have some dude buy her dinner then drop her off at my place, and he will only be slightly better off than the dinner date.
/r/seduction01/06/17 03:46 PM
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A lot of the psychological principles "redpill" teach about women are healthy to understand. For instance, hypergamy, beta vs alpha dichotomy, and how social conditioning holds us back. Unfortunately a lot of dudes find this information from a negative space in their life and use it and the like-minded community to shit on women and "get back" at them. It is healthy to understand the psychology of women and apply it in a healthy way - where you can make a connection with a woman and trust her, b…
/r/seduction01/06/17 03:40 PM
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I mean he wasn't attacking PUAs/ people that go out with the intention of just meeting women. He was just saying that's not his style. I respect both, but choose the former :) Knock = attack in this case.
/r/seduction01/06/17 03:02 PM
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I never liked the idea of going out to specifically meet women. Some people like video games and movies. I like flirting with women. You weren't knocking it, just sticking up for the PUAs 'round here. Good work with the interactions. Only note is next time you may not be so lucky to run into the girl you want to see at Starbucks 5 minutes later. Make your move the first time :)
/r/seduction31/05/17 05:09 PM
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lol ya it's pretty elementary problem. What should you have done? Changed the subject. Women aren't going to lead a conversation out of the hole you dug. It's up to you to steer the conversation back to where others are having fun. What do you do if you run into them tomorrow? Maintain your strong frame, don't apologize or even bring it up, and resume interaction as if everything is fine and normal.
/r/seduction30/05/17 09:30 PM
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In general I message her usually 2-3 days after our first time having sex, regardless of what I want from the relationship. And really, I'm open-minded as to what i want from relationships. I don't go monogamous until dating for a long time and REALLY know the girl and she qualifies as gf material and even then i won't necesarily go monogamous lol. I say this because I think it's a healthy way to view relationships. Qualify her by not making her your gf right away. Make sure it's what you want, …
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:49 PM
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Don't ask dates for feedback. You're asking them for logical information when the whole point of dates is to appeal to a woman's emotions. That's how you connect with people. If it was logical, OPs money and six pack would have him swimming in it by now.
/r/seduction29/05/17 10:44 PM
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Everything you've ever been told is a lie. (Evil) Muahaha. Now that you know that everything you thought would attract a woman - money, good looks, maybe a good friend circle, doesn't work, we can learn. You need to appeal to a woman's emotions. Be someone that can make her feel good and be someone that can provide her with emotional stability. Get to actual work on yourself. Attack your beliefs, your mindset, not the outcomes. Meaning yeah it's great to go to the gym and it's great to talk to y…
/r/seduction29/05/17 10:42 PM
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This: Women aren't wired that way. NO! Not this: You should invite her to a fun filled weekend (you pay everything), a hotel room, maybe a casino hotel, food, dancing, wine, everything. Tell her to get dressed up and pack a weekend bag with a swimsuit. This may not work though because you barely know her, but if you feel adventurous and she seems receptive she may just go for it. Don't concentrate so much on fucking, concentrate on promising her a weekend to remember.
/r/seduction26/05/17 07:39 PM
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It is hard. You don't have anyone to laugh with things go shit or celebrate with when things go poorly. The only people watching you are a bunch of strangers. That's the kind of social pressure where your game really develops. When you can let go of the need to please the girl and the people watching you... you're almost there :)
/r/seduction26/05/17 04:10 PM
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Nah, that's shit advice. If you bang a bunch of people to get over someone else, guess who you're thinking of (at some level) while that's going on? When you think of someone more, you're going to feel more connection and more unhealthy feelings toward that ex-connection. It's all in your head, OP. You need to face your feelings and get over them and move onto more positive feelings. Do it by yourself, or if you have a good dude friend you can talk through shitty situations with, maybe do that. …
/r/seduction25/05/17 10:14 PM
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Girls pick up on your vibe. If you feel awkward sober, you're going to make her feel like she should be awkward. It's in your subcommunications. When you're drunk, you don't have your inhibitions, your're not worried about awkwardness, therefore neither is she. Get over your inhibitions, bro. It's important for getting better with women and it's important for long-term happiness generally. Plus, you'll remember your interactions and what went wrong and when and why when you're sober. Your game w…
/r/seduction25/05/17 09:19 PM
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lol yeah OP. That shit gets dudes excited. Make her moan. It's... cool.
/r/seduction25/05/17 09:10 PM
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Take a class, dude. Your local community college will have one for like 9 dollars for a semester where you'll be one of 10 dudes in a 50 person class. You'll meet women, you'll learn to dance, you'll learn to lead.
/r/seduction25/05/17 08:58 PM
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If a girl stands in my proximity I assume sexual interest lol.
/r/seduction25/05/17 05:03 PM
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Medium level game like, you get lays but want more? What are you particular sticking points? There's a shit ton of RSD material that high quality that intermediates could benefit from, so be a little more specific and I can do more to help. I did 10Game and got a lot out of it. Julien's material is great for intermediates. Pushes both internal and external game and there are some challenging missions to push you.
/r/seduction25/05/17 03:16 PM
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"You're better than her."
/r/seduction25/05/17 03:09 PM
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I have to admit that I hardly hold eye contact with girls due to my awareness about my teeth. This is exactly why women are bringing up your teeth. They want to flush out insecurities so they aren't with an insecure man. It's not about the teeth. It's about you. The fact that they are bringing up your teeth is good. It means they are challenging you to see if you are as cool as you say you are. Women aren't just assholes that will make fun you because they want you to feel bad. Maintain your coo…
/r/seduction23/05/17 08:26 PM
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I'm in US and haven't heard of it. Recyclablebanthas and I talk to a lot of people lol. Kiss her when you want to kiss her and make your move for sex when you want sex. If she doesn't want what you want recalibrate. I don't want to go on three dates before sex/kissing. So I don't.
/r/seduction23/05/17 07:58 PM
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Just kidding lol. Great post, as usual. I have a few comments. You note that faking transcendence is appropriate. I kind of agree. But. I've met dudes that fake transcendence. This is a recent trend, probably from all the "Improve yourself and the women will follow" mantras spewed on the internet. They say shit like, "I'm totally happy, even without women." I say, "Ok. Why are you here in this bar?" "To have a good time and meet women." "Why?" "Well, I want a girlfriend." It's little lies that p…
/r/seduction22/05/17 10:46 PM
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So.. I need to memorize dragon ball z episodes and then chicks will like me?
/r/seduction22/05/17 10:45 PM
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Women don't "have game". Women try their best to be hot and hope the dudes that approach them are cool and aren't full of shit. A woman with good game is a hot chick that runs in a social circle that can provide her opportunities to meet a high quality dude. Or she rides the same train I do, shops at the same grocery store I do, and drinks at the same bars I do :). A dude with strong game has the social skills to get that hot chick that's waiting around attracted to him.
/r/seduction22/05/17 10:13 PM
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Very few dudes have strong game.
/r/seduction22/05/17 08:01 PM
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All your energy comes from your genitals during seduction.
/r/seduction18/05/17 08:28 PM
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All high quality, drama free women are random until you meet them. Plus it's usually dudes that fuck up the quality, drama free part of a woman by giving in to her shit tests and others' expectations. If you're unhappy in all your relationships, it might not be her.
/r/seduction17/05/17 03:31 PM
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Troll the mall lol
/r/seduction17/05/17 03:26 PM
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Years of half ass approaching in college. Then I consciously began working on it. A few months. After the years of half ass approaching.
/r/seduction17/05/17 03:23 PM
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Do you even bother trying to be friendly with her friends? Yes. Or do you focus on her all the time? No. When I go into a social situation (and almost all situations lol), I take the lead. I jump ahead of my date and introduce myself to people, begin mingling, and start building up the rest of the party. I don't wait for my girl's approval or her action. I take action. I recommend doing the same. You don't need to win her friends over, but you need to win your girl over by not needing her attent…
/r/seduction16/05/17 11:04 PM
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2-3 years of conscious effort. Frequent reading, frequent going out, frequent flirting.
/r/seduction16/05/17 10:59 PM
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How to keep face-to-face/texts fresh after the initial "game" period is over. How to keep dates exciting. How to keep the sex fun and satisfying. Be creative. This is fun stuff. Oh, and the "game" period is never over. You should always maintain the strong frame in the relationship and not go all "beta" on her ass that sees you as this great man. Be the great man. Really people, pickup principles apply to long-term relationships. Maintaining frame, teasing, pumping emotions - these are all techn…
/r/seduction16/05/17 10:57 PM
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There's psychological principles behind every "PUA technique". Don't knock it til you try it. Good for you for learning, but in learning everything, action is key. You know the theory, now get out there and apply it. You will be creepy the first few times. Escalation is unnatural to you, and she will pick up on your vibe. As you become comfortable through repetition, you will become both better at timing/calibrating your escalations, and also more confident when you apply your moves.
/r/seduction16/05/17 10:12 PM
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Say the words, "You know what's funny?" Then you have to come up with something. Give it a shot.
/r/seduction16/05/17 05:08 PM
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(and taken a huge bouquet to Starbucks..) Fantastic lol
/r/seduction16/05/17 04:02 PM
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Ah man! I laughed at the (self aware) cringe of this story. Couple quick not-favorite-memories of mine: I asked a girl to be my girlfriend before I kissed her. My first actual girlfriend (obviously a different girl) told me she liked me because I wasn't like all of her previous boyfriends who just wanted sex and she was happy she could take things slow with me. I remember being next to her thinking "Fuuuuu.." A positive note to show progress: Last weekend I met a girl at a bar and we decided she…
/r/seduction16/05/17 02:41 PM
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This, and only this.
/r/seduction15/05/17 08:05 PM
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Good for you man. My battery on my cingular slide phone blew up last year and I got an iphone. I'd been due for an upgrade for 9 years, but ATT stopped doing upgrades a few months earlier lol. Conspiracy shit..
/r/seduction12/05/17 08:59 PM
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Women like dominant men. Muscles suggest dominance. Girls will show initial attraction to muscular men and will test them to make sure they're legit dominant sources of (emotional) strength. Most muscular men aren't, it's just a gym pump. That's why gym bros are emotional wrecks in relationships with hot chicks lol. Also, you can be a skinny twat but communicate that you are dominant AF through the way you carry yourself and communicate with her. This is probably more rare than a muscular, domin…
/r/seduction11/05/17 06:16 PM
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It's all how you frame it, man. This. "I do what I want, when I want, and don't feel like I need to run it through my friends first. Hell, I typically get annoyed hanging out with them after about an hour anyways." Not this. Don't put your friends down. Don't communicate to her that you hang out with losers. Don't communicate to her that you get bored with people after an hour. I like varierty, and I like getting to know new people worth knowing. Why, is that you?" This.
/r/seduction11/05/17 03:38 PM
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Looks and race don't matter to 99/100 women. Any lack of confidence is your own insecurity. You cannot fake confidence. Women will sniff that out. Ever heard of a shit test? It's a woman's way of figuring out if you're full of shit. They're good at it, too. Good news is, it's all in your head. It will take work to overcome that mental hurdle though.
/r/seduction11/05/17 03:30 PM
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Maybe. If she doesn't like it then you can take it as a rejection and move on to other women. Beats the hell out of gossiping with her and never making a move even though you want to make a move and even hoping she will. Cuz, she won't.
/r/seduction10/05/17 11:55 PM
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Go to a bar lol. You're never stuck inside.
/r/seduction10/05/17 08:07 PM
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I'm happy you're in a loving relationship, took action in your decision to work on pickup, and learned from it. But.. Your whole mindset around pickup and relationships is backwards. You view women as a "prize" and you even rank the prizes ("figured I could never top it"). This is damaging and a result of having a scarce mindset. Why do we do pickup? To avoid scarce mindsets, and scarce options in our dating lives. You never seemed to have eliminated that scarcity mindset. When you entered your …
/r/seduction10/05/17 08:06 PM
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You're a theater nerd who only has chick friends that you gossip with. Do not joke about being gay. It's not funny. You're dishonest, dude. If a girl asks if you're gay and means it, you're sending mixed signals. You might say you like her and that you're not into dudes, but all your actions say otherwise. Women pay much more attention to subcommunications than you do. Non-verbals and behavior are more important than words. Be honest with your words and your actions. If you're alone with a girl,…
/r/seduction10/05/17 02:52 PM
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I'm hesitant though. I can't think of a time of being honest about your flaws has really won a girl over. He gives several examples in the book but I have never interacted with a girl who wouldn't be turned off by that. I haven't read the book but I've got to imagine he's not wording it the way you are, and that you're interpreting his lesson wrong. Don't apologize for your flaws, or even acknowledging shortcomings at flaws. Being vulnerable is accepting YOURSELF for who you are, and coming to t…
/r/seduction09/05/17 06:18 PM
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Mystery laid out the framework that other PUAs have ran with. Basically, once opening, you need to ATTRACT her before moving on to conversation that's more, as Mystery put it, comfort building. You hear folks in PUA say you need to provide value in order to expect investment on her part. This is where that comes in. Be fun and add to the party. Or challenge her in some way. Basically be different than other dude, and set the sexual vibe (through everything - your words, your tone, your actions, …
/r/seduction08/05/17 11:08 PM
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I almost never get shit tests. Boom. A shit test is not a bad thing. Shit tests means she's curious about you. If you never get shit tests you're not being aggressive enough. A shit test is "Is this guy full of shit?" She doesn't even care because you aren't trying to appeal to her sexually. You need to put yourself out there as a sexual option for her. As the sexual option for her. I'm just responding to what you give me. You didn't have any info in the original post about social circle. That s…
/r/seduction08/05/17 09:23 PM
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Give us more information, bro. Think specific interactions - how far are you getting? Do you get past "hello" and onto the "where you from that's cool"? If you're calling it a sticking point, it's probably a time in the interaction when things turn for shit. Do you run out of things to say? Do you run out of fun things to say? Do you have trouble dealing with her friends? Is she showing you signs of interest, at any point in the interaction? Answer those and you'll probably answer your own quest…
/r/seduction08/05/17 08:33 PM
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Nothing I completely disagree with, I just don't think like that this is promoted. I wrote a post on this also though, cuz it's what everybody asks. Don’t bother with this step until you’ve taken the power back. If she knows she still has the power in the relationship, then you will just come off as needy and supplicating. This line saved this section. I wanted to disagree lol, but the disclaimer is the biggest part. As the dude, you must have the power. I got out of the "friend zone" by cutting…
/r/seduction08/05/17 05:39 PM
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lol that's pretty funny. More sad. Funny cuz it's true. Did you seek out Jeffy in particular? Why him?
/r/seduction08/05/17 04:06 PM
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Nice man. I'm pretty unfamiliar with Jeffy, even though I follow Julien and Tyler close. Going to a RSD free event in a couple weeks and I'm stoked. Never been to any of their live events.
/r/seduction08/05/17 03:20 PM
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This is a healthy attitude to have.
/r/seduction03/05/17 07:46 PM
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I agree BUT you should push some boundaries OP. Unless you've done a lot of dating and are really comfortable with women and yourself, and I don't think you are, you should push yourself to try these new things. It's healthy to try things outside your comfort zone. A lot of what RSD preaches is to do that - do something wild not because you're a wild person, but to make you deal with the social pressure in the moment and to show you that life goes on after. You'll learn what's acceptable to wome…
/r/seduction03/05/17 07:44 PM
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That's why women "shit test" you. They want to see if you are honest with yourself and with her. This is their defense mechanism to flush out shitty dudes. This is also why we break down shit tests in seduction - so we can get past that superficial level and connect with her. A good man that can connect with a woman in this way is rare, and extremely sexy.
/r/seduction03/05/17 03:41 PM
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Heels are sexy. They exaggerate a woman's legs and butt and force good posture. Plus they are fashionable. Men not dating tall women are insecure. That's his problem. Avoid them. Don't not wear heels because of his insecurity. Actually they'll probably avoid you lol.
/r/seduction02/05/17 03:25 PM
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I live in San Francisco and have picked up in Berkeley. So, ya. It's you. Feminism does not make it more difficult to pickup. If anything, it makes it easier. Girls are told to focus on their careers and to "just have fun" so they're looking to bang. If anything, sex is easier in real liberal areas. The corollary is that because they're making more money and assuming more responsibilities, they have higher standards/entitlement. This might be what you're referring to. But no. She still wants a g…
/r/seduction01/05/17 10:35 PM
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What you wanna know
/r/seduction01/05/17 05:05 PM
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I agree with this. You want to have a good time with the bros stay in and watch the sports game with beer. If you're at a club it's assumed you're there to try to have sex with someone.
/r/seduction01/05/17 03:45 PM
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Oh also she might not have a boyfriend. Common screen early in an interaction. Just her saying that doesn't stop me. Or I'm a creep lol.
/r/seduction27/04/17 09:19 PM
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NOPE. This is shady and dishonest. Don't "befriend" her when you're not interested in being her friend. Let your intentions be known, and if she's down, and you're both morally down, then do the get down.
/r/seduction27/04/17 09:18 PM
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"Let's see if we can take one hit and pass it along to each other mouth to mouth and make it all the way." Then encourage more kissing.
/r/seduction26/04/17 11:13 PM
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No. I'm telling you. You have to decide to see it that way. You could say, "i fucked up i'll never seal the deal" once you fail to close. Or you can say, "Fuck ya. I brought a girl back to my place. We didn't bang, but I made it damn far, and next time I'll try something different and make it happen." One concept you might have read about - framing. It's a biggie.
/r/seduction26/04/17 11:03 PM
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You'll enjoy it before then. You'll get a girl's number in a bar and you'll get a kick out of it. She won't call you back, but you'll still have the spike of getting the number. You'll bring a girl home and be unable to seal the deal. You'll be pissed and jerk off but you'll have the spike of getting the girl home. You'll bring a girl home have bad sex lol. Celebrate the small victories. They are fun and you learn a lot from them.
/r/seduction26/04/17 10:04 PM
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2 years to get competent and really see results. 2 more years to go from competent to good. I still consider myself good, with room to improve.
/r/seduction26/04/17 09:54 PM
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Cuz Mark Manson et al gotta eat. The struggle sucks. Keep at it though. I overcame. So can you.
/r/seduction26/04/17 09:29 PM
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I've been through seddit and TRP and have spent a lot of time reading no more Mr Nice Guy, Models, Book of pook, The Manual and how to win Friends. You gotta practice man. You've read the theory. You know what you have to do. Now go do it. It's going to fucking suck at first. You have all these ideas in your head about how you're supposed to hold eye contact and touch her and not lean in but still charm her with conversation and it's way too much. Focus on one thing at a time. Go out tomorrow an…
/r/seduction26/04/17 06:00 PM
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Guys with far better game are good at flirting because we flirt a lot. Game is habit. It's ingrained in us. We made it a habit because of the repetition. We can make good looking girls feel good because we make everyone feel good. We talk to everyone in the bar and flirt with all the women. We have options. We can leave with the ugly chick that we were having fun with earlier, or we can leave with the hot friend, or someone else entirely. Don't lower your standards. But don't have standards just…
/r/seduction26/04/17 05:10 PM
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Quoting glengarry. "A guy don't walk on the lot lest he wants to buy." Girls have coffee and wine at home, and amazon prime. They are out to meet boys. Women are screening for good dudes. Dudes that make her feel comfortable (she won't bring her friends), dudes that make her feel sexy (she won't disappear after a date), dudes that make her feel like she found someone great (she will initiate text messages). Be a great dude. It's that simple ;)
/r/seduction26/04/17 03:20 PM
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Approach with science. Be like, "Hey what's this CBT thing all about? Are you a believer?" Her: "Actually, ya. Thoughts." or Her: "Wtf." You: "lol for sure I'm failatsomething."
/r/seduction25/04/17 11:20 PM
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I like the RSD guys. I've only studied Tyler and Julien. They have great material and tons of it. Inner game, outer game, and they are fun, so it's easy to follow. Mystery isn't that "fun" to watch but I learned a lot about how women work and basics of attraction from the man. He's great. Internet commenter Yareally for combining theories. On reddit, Woujo seems pretty new but I like his stuff. He and the mods (recyclablebanthas) post quality responses. Shout-out to our guys here.
/r/seduction25/04/17 11:17 PM
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Do you really have a question for the community here? lol ya I value my time and don't waste it. If one girl isn't having my charm I share it with someone else. Immediately. uncalibrated chumps would attempt to ask for a number without talking further to see if this girl is worth your time. A number isn't anything. I have sex and go on a few dates to see if a girl is worth my time lol. We're all different though and that's neat.
/r/seduction25/04/17 11:12 PM
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lol quick FR on note-passing. I was on the commuter train last week heading home from work. Crowded train. Was writing a birthday card to a friend that I was going out with that night. Had my headphones on, but I was aware of my surroundings. There was a beautiful girl sitting across the aisle from me and I could tell she made an effort to see what it was I was writing. I looked over but she turned away. When I was done writing the note, I took my headphones off, reached across and tapped her sh…
/r/seduction24/04/17 11:07 PM
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Ya.
/r/seduction24/04/17 08:01 PM
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Good work on the pickup (except for waiting several times to ask). Not sure why you're boasting about the second part though, and not sure what exactly your intended take-away was. Do you consider this a way to dump a girl while minimizing her emotional discomfort? Cuz saying you were sleazy can make her feel sleazy. Therefore not the way to go. Much more appropriate to (if you are going to message her after) say you aren't looking for a relationship and had fun but it was a one-time thing and t…
/r/seduction24/04/17 07:59 PM
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lol ya the bestsellers are cringe-material for sure. Strong dude that's "perfect" but will never have time/commitment to the woman -> Makes time and commits to the woman -> Mutual happiness. Don't judge me.
/r/seduction24/04/17 04:19 PM
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lol good lord man. You don't make a girl your girlfriend before you have sex with her. Like the others said. You don't go from her gay friend to having sex with her. Don't be her gay friend next time. If you want this girl you're basically going to have to reinvent how she sees you. Don't talk to her or see her for a while (I assume you're in HS or college from your post, so a while is.... 3 months). I mean it. No contact. Then, next time be more honest with how you show your intent. So ya. Uphi…
/r/seduction20/04/17 09:54 PM
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Go out alone! It's hugely freeing to be able to go out and have a good time. To not be dependent on friends for fun is an amazing feeling. I do this all the time, especially weeknights cuz people are lame lol. But often I won't invite others to go out with me. I'll actually make sure I'm going out by myself once or twice a week. Weekends too. It's healthy to go out alone on weekends. It's also damn scary. People role in groups, and it's expected you will too. You will learn quick to deal with so…
/r/seduction20/04/17 09:47 PM
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Right. Then you need to open your mouth and talk. Then you focus on the conversation. Meditation/focusing on your breath is a great way to practice living in the moment. It is not the outcome to be applied universally. How do you stay present in the conversation? Make eye contact. Listen to the words the other person is saying. Read their body language. These are the equivalent of focusing on your breath when you are alone. You do these things to avoid your mind wandering. Removing thoughts help…
/r/seduction20/04/17 04:26 PM
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You're overthinking things if you're focused on your breath and can't hang in a conversation. Overthinking = not living in the present. Stop overthinking.
/r/seduction20/04/17 03:37 PM
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K then you can stop reading here: You take a look at yourself in the mirror on a Friday night, sitting at home, drunk, taking a break from playing a video game, alone, depressed, Or.... you can be your most attractive self and go share that with the world. I don't care either way.
/r/seduction18/04/17 10:38 PM
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Just gave the James Marshall clip a listen. Good material. Aligns with banthas and my posts.
/r/seduction18/04/17 06:07 PM
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Welcome man. lol ya you're way overdoing it and you're leading these women on to expect relationships. Everything you're doing here says "I want you to be my girlfriend." She's probably expecting a gift from you for her birthday (give her a cheesy card that's not too cute and no gift, if anything at all). Really, I don't mind hand holding. I'd do that with my primary girl and sometimes fuck buddies. But again, that was usually just from the dive bar down the street to my place. Rule of thumb: on…
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:59 PM
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Awesome field report man. Great work all the way. You know where you fucked up and you'll know to act when you get that opportunity next time (or the time after that ;) ). Great job leading. Great job in making her come to you. Great job keeping it sexual (verbally and physically). You fucked up the close because you allowed her friends to come and interrupt the emotions you built up with logic ("You're married" "You're with us"). You never know if you don't try, right? So, what do you recommend…
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:35 PM
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So I've been in game for a couple years now. Recently I've found it easier to get up a decent rotation of girls. Using tinder and night game. Sometimes it's as low as 0 but I average 2-3 at a time now. Right now I've got a solid 4 with 1-2 day 1s coming up this week. It's really hard to make time for them all so I hang with them on average once a week. Good work man. A lot of the concepts that you applied in picking up these women will apply in managing the relationships. Eg framing, clear inten…
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:10 PM
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If you feel sexy, then it's good for you." In other words, do what makes you happy. Comfort and confidence is key. Eh confidence is key for dudes. And chicks I guess. But comfort? I'm not going to seduce a girl in sweats. I hold a double standard here. Women's fashion is important to me. I like a girl that dresses well.
/r/seduction18/04/17 03:49 PM
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Ya.
/r/seduction18/04/17 03:46 PM
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lol nah. I've pulled from a suit and tie crowd wearing dirty t-shirts. Dude in fedora had weak game. So do you. Push yourself to grow your game and see what's possible. Wear a fedora and cargo shorts next time you go out :)
/r/seduction18/04/17 03:45 PM
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No. When you come at girls bein all nice and shiznit you're not getting laid. When you come at them man to woman you'll get laid sometimes. One of these you'll be told no immediately. The other you'll spend months hanging around her and shopping and one day you'll try to get her drunk and she'll say nah but thanks. You'll get rejected more cuz you're talking to more women. In percentages though, you should be rejected less than when you're being a friendly loser.
/r/seduction18/04/17 03:24 PM
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You don't need looks or an exotic hobby to make people feel good.
/r/seduction17/04/17 09:39 PM
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Word. Likewise, if your virtues are "good at making people laugh and feel good" and "making her feel sexy", the sky is the limit. You can be better than your shitty face lol.
/r/seduction17/04/17 04:40 PM
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You should get hit with urges. You're a high-testosterone dude.
/r/seduction17/04/17 04:35 PM
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How long have you been a DJ for? I was a DJ in college with no looks or game going for me and I said, "no thanks" to pussy multiple times. It's really easy if you just show up as DJ. Don't need to say anything. If you do say anything and can been the cool guy behind the booth in addition to keeping the party moving, you'll be a rock star. You have so much status as the man providing entertainment for the party. You are busy which makes you more attractive. Tell a girl to wait or hold your drink …
/r/seduction17/04/17 04:01 PM
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I do yoga 4x a week ... I haven't met any yet Your comment doesn't make any sense.
/r/seduction14/04/17 09:05 PM
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"Hey you and I should workout sometime. We can start with toe curls." - GotPickup
/r/seduction13/04/17 10:22 PM
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That was weird. I typed "26" but it formatted to number formatting starting at 1 lol. Whoever said women are tough to understand should try technology. Anyway. What changes in that time and what would you advise I change Stay on your new track. I'll give some corny advice and then real reasons why. Get out of your comfort zone. This is how you will come to find out who you are. Go out often. Flirt with women. This is a fun way to get out of your comfort zone. The most fun, I think. When you go o…
/r/seduction13/04/17 10:20 PM
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A slightly older young'n :)
/r/seduction13/04/17 09:21 PM
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You make some good observations. regardless of whether you have flaws, self-perceived or not, I am convinced now that a large part of the equation is how YOU internalize them, and whether you identify with them or not. When you have things about you you cannot change, you either laugh them off and treat it as a massive joke against yourself, or you wither in insecurity every time someone cuts you down a notch. I'm also thinking now that women will often say these things to you as a kind of shit …
/r/seduction13/04/17 08:51 PM
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Dude. The whole purpose of sex is not to get high fives from your bros. You seem to be disappointed that bros aren't around anymore to hand out high fives. When you're younger, it's not even about how handsome you are or how much game you have, it's all about how cool you are. Cool = game. Overweight guy who is down with the cool kids gets more pussy than handsome guy who is a social outcast, that is the way it is in school settings. To an extent, it is like that in the real world but women beco…
/r/seduction13/04/17 04:18 PM
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See how it applies in the real world - super important in game, super important for learning generally. If you read a book on psychology, you will want to test that with how you see people interacting. A book on the stock market you'll want to pick some companies to follow to put theory to the test. In game, you should be going out and applying what you read and testing it to see what works, what doesn't, and why. Question, and challenge everything you read. Is this correct? Does what Manson is …
/r/seduction13/04/17 04:03 PM
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This is the best article that I've read on seddit. Great job, Woujo. Here's one of so many gold nuggets from the post: An awesome man makes a woman feel special, loved, important, powerful, and cool. An awesome man is also fun, positive, confident, carefree, and dominant, easing the woman’s anxieties and insecurities. Being around an awesome guy is literally like a drug to women, and if they are around you long enough, they become hooked.
/r/seduction12/04/17 07:57 PM
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<3
/r/seduction12/04/17 04:36 PM
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I actually like that a lot better. Noted for next time. Thank you TheSwearBot.
/r/seduction12/04/17 04:03 PM
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Here's the thing. All bitches love pillow forts. Not everyone that loves pillow forts is a bitch. Everyone that asks if their love of pillow forts makes them a bitch is a bitch. tldr ya.
/r/seduction12/04/17 04:01 PM
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I build barriers to pillow forts. Bitches love pillow forts.
/r/seduction12/04/17 03:15 PM
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How can I make guys want to approach me? Be physically present. Sit at the bar, not at a table. How do I deal if no one does? I consider myself decently attractive. Wait. Is it strange for a female to go alone? Yes, but not a bad thing, and no one will not talk to you because you're alone. Don't worry about it. Happy hunting.
/r/seduction12/04/17 03:05 AM
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I haven't had sex in a year Slut.
/r/seduction12/04/17 03:03 AM
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Yeah.
/r/seduction12/04/17 02:47 AM
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My point was to quit over thinking it. So, ya. She's down.
/r/seduction11/04/17 11:36 PM
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Step your game up 50-50 ;) To your original post: Is this normal does this happen to a lot of guys? Ya man. There's a lot that goes into being good at picking up chicks. You said these were your first approaches. Don't know what experience you have from reading or other knowledge of game, but ya. It's not easy and there are a lot of skills and dynamics involved. I go to the gym 5 to 6 days a week I'm nowhere near fat my clothes are tailored to fit and I wear one or two sprays of Gucci cologne so…
/r/seduction11/04/17 11:30 PM
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That part's foreign to me too. I don't know snapchat. I can confirm that phone numbers are still a thing. Even with college girls lol.
/r/seduction11/04/17 11:08 PM
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Should have "helped the girl with the math homework."
/r/seduction11/04/17 11:01 PM
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Going for kiss is big. Start small. Get the girl to go outside for a breath of fresh air (or dirty cigarette air lol). Then get her to go with you to the bar while you buy a drink and then drink it in front of her. Have her hand you a napkin. Then get her to go back outside with you. Then dance with her, outside. Then kiss her. lol you don't have to dance with her outside. You don't have to do anything I said. My point is you can start getting some feedback by getting her to invest with a little…
/r/seduction11/04/17 10:05 PM
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I work and I commute a long distance. I go out with a little goal (talk to two sets, then I can call it a night). Sometimes I'm home within 30 minutes. Sometimes one of those sets is a lot of fun and I don't get much sleep that night lol.
/r/seduction11/04/17 08:34 PM
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Can't relate. I racked up hundreds of approaches with no results and no game before I read anything on the subject. When I then read stuff, I was able to relate it to my experiences, see what I was doing wrong, and take suggestions to alter my approach. I didn't have the anxiety anymore. I didn't fear rejection. I recommend that approach. Even though you won't get the results you've read about. Put the books and articles aside for a while until you've had some experiences approaching women even …
/r/seduction11/04/17 04:39 PM
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I do try and talk to people that I do not find intimidating. Talk to the people you do find intimidating. That's where you'll grow the most. Plus, my guess is you find most people intimidating, so you'll have more opportunities to practice. Win-win :)
/r/seduction11/04/17 04:07 PM
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How can you tell if a girl is DTF and how do I go about it? Girls want to have sex lol. How do you tell if a girl is down? Is she at a bar or club without a significant other? She's down. Is she at a coffee shop without a significant other? Is she wearing clothes that attract attention? lol UoAPUA has good advice to start on how to go about it.
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:59 PM
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I go out more than 5 days a week these days. I'm not a big drinker (one drink a day, give or take). You'll get better at game when you stop drinking, for a few reasons. You'll have your full wit, unaffected by booze. You'll have to overcome your inhibitions that currently require booze (you said you're almost there). You will have stood up to the social pressure of your peers and girls at bars. They will absolutely throw shit at you for not drinking. Stand your ground. Standing up to pressure = …
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:49 PM
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Her assumption was based off of Octodab's actions (probably - this is common). His actions probably led her to expect monogamy (seeing more than once a week, doing cute shit). That's the kind of behavior that will lead her to believe it's more than just casual, even if your words say otherwise. Be honest with your words, and make sure your actions match. For example - if you just want to bang her, don't wait 5 dates to make a move.
/r/seduction11/04/17 03:41 PM
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Exactly. And again, you know what not to do cuz you've probably seen it in set - checking phone, walking away, smiling nervously. Don't let him dominate. Either accept his conversation and participate or, if you're not interested in conversation, tell him that and be on your way with your girl.
/r/seduction10/04/17 05:40 PM
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Agree with banthas on about all points, including doing nothing as the best course of action in this situation. This "battle" is won or lost long before a player comes walking up to your girl. If you have any insecurities (jealousy, temper, etc), a strong man will make you look weak in comparison. Without any insecurity, there's nothing to fear. Your woman does not fear your lack of strength so she can love you, and you don't fear a dude talking to your chick. If you don't have any insecurities,…
/r/seduction10/04/17 04:07 PM
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Nice dude, I'll do this and can report back. I frequently do the reverse - escalate and go for gold without any physical escalation.
/r/seduction10/04/17 03:29 PM
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taking control and setting the pace This, more than anything, will make girls call you a "good kisser". Tease her, be the first to pull back, and keep your hands moving ;)
/r/seduction05/04/17 02:19 PM
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It's much harder to approach a girl if you didn't the day before. BadassIntrovert mentioned momentum and that carries from day-to-day too. Plus you'll pick up some positive reference experiences. Get used to going out frequently and interacting with people (hot chicks). I go out almost every day. I'll approach about two sets a day. Many more on weekends.
/r/seduction05/04/17 02:15 PM
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If your goal is to bang a lot of women, live in a location central to women. Roommates are minor obstacle once she's home with you. Plus, you can be like, "let's get some privacy" and bring her to your room ;)
/r/seduction31/03/17 05:15 PM
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Dudes know girls' game too lol. You ever heard a girl say, "I never do this" or "I'm usually not like this"? Maybe I'm just amazing.
/r/seduction31/03/17 05:05 PM
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Sex is better than cuddling and, off the top of my head, everything else too.
/r/seduction31/03/17 04:59 PM
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The game never ends. You can't just be beta cuz she went on a couple dates and maybe fucked you. It never ends. Do you start calling her and needing her more? No. Push and pull, dude. Date after date? Do what you want to do. I like sex and conversation, so that's most of what I do. Keep things from getting boring? Tease her.
/r/seduction31/03/17 04:57 PM
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Yeah, yeah, this is going to sound super cliche. But really, I suffer from this just like everyone else. lol everyone except dudes that are good with women. See: me, woujo. I am a socially outgoing guy and I can talk to girls no problem. Unfortunately, whenever I see myself in pictures, mirrors, or reflections as I walk around school, I feel super insecure about my looks. More specifically my face... (I dress well) So? You're talking to girls "no problem". What are you looking for? A face transp…
/r/seduction31/03/17 04:43 PM
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Nothin wrong with you. This is hard fucking work and takes time. I did this over years. I used to approach and be blown out immediately. These days, that happens sometimes lol, but it's rare. I'm good. Keep failing. Keep learning. One day you won't fail.
/r/seduction30/03/17 08:42 PM
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Motivation: if you keep doing it eventually you will have sex and relationships with women, which is really cool.
/r/seduction30/03/17 12:22 AM
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Look man. I want to like Julien's product. But all you told us is that you jerked off and you cried. Do you have maybe anything else to say about the product?
/r/seduction30/03/17 12:21 AM
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I came out of a blackout in college and a girl was walking next to me talking in my direction. I was walking. I looked around then started listening to her because it seemed she was talking to me. We were walking to her house apparently. Don't know how we met.
/r/seduction22/03/17 09:44 PM
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1- Last Friday, I met a girl. We talked for a bit, exchanged contacts (facebook and number). She told me that she wouldn't be able to meet me until the 29th because of her thesis work. Monday I texted her, asking her to remind me why she wouldn't be able to meet me before the 29th, I remember, I just wanted to restart the conversation. She hasn't replied. I'm a foreigner living in her country, and usually my go to, approach is to ask girls to show me their favorite parts of the city. She agreed …
/r/seduction22/03/17 05:07 PM
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Hey bro - the post was removed!
/r/seduction22/03/17 03:37 PM
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Solid post dude. 1 Do what you like. 2 build social proof. 3 make moves.
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:51 PM
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Be honest. Most dudes that are shit on by women for "just wanted her for sex" weren't honest with their intentions. They lead women on as if they want a relationship, then after the bang happens they disappear. Fortunately for you, chicks do not just want a monogamous relationship. They want time with a great man. Be a great man, and don't lead her on. It's attractive when you can be honest and still take what you want (pussy). How do you not lead on? Don't do boyfriend shit. No gifts, no seeing…
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:43 PM
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lol y'all watched any RSD Tyler? You know, the fat, balding, ginger? I haven't. Check out a couple videos of the man and let me know if girls respond positively. Get back to me please.
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:36 PM
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You can do things to be more attractive. Attraction, especially for women, isn't really about looks.
/r/seduction16/03/17 04:33 PM
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You're 21. She doesn't expect you to have a lot of money. Fine dining is a poor choice in first date. Too much invested on your end. Make her earn fine dining.
/r/seduction14/03/17 03:49 PM
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It's fine.
/r/seduction14/03/17 03:44 PM
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lol bro "you a clown. And you know what they say about clowns ;)"
/r/seduction07/03/17 06:52 PM
1

Nice. I would precede with a compliment. "Cute dress. A pearl necklace would look really nice on you."
/r/seduction07/03/17 05:43 PM
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So i just go out I and talk to girls? Solo? Go out to get rejected? All of that will happen at some point. Get started, bro. You're only going to start getting better once you begin.
/r/seduction07/03/17 04:12 PM
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"Hey I have this friend. His friend wants to know if you have a boyfriend ;)"
/r/seduction06/03/17 09:13 PM
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"Just be yourself" is good if you are old and wise and truly comfortable with who you are - your values, priorities, behaviors. Just be yourself means being who you are at your core, past all the social-conditioned shitty exterior. It's really hard to break down these walls and face who you are. When you do, then being yourself is attractive. You can be honest with you and with others. Others crave this honesty because it is rare. You're part way there OP. Meditation is great. So is fucking, whe…
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:27 PM
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Is that why there is so much advice here on keno, eye contact, etc. because it stimulates women's emotional drive with you? Can you essentially get into a woman's pants right away if you hit all the right emotional cards that makes her feel positive? Yeah man :) Isn't that easier than "saying all the right things"? Eh, maybe. But it's a different, healthier way to look at it. As for your current girl, she might just be crazy lol. If you leave a more thorough breakdown of your interactions, maybe…
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:38 PM
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Kinda like having a trip from point A to point B and forgetting to enjoy the view while you go. Exactly that. But, that's hard to do when you aren't getting results. The goal wasn't the issue. Everyone gets into pickup to get laid. When that doesn't happen, it's discouraging. So yeah, I'm happy I stuck with it. The whole time I had the right mindset - being "I know I need to develop a number of skills to be competent". So it's great to focus on the growth, but when you're starting from zero, I d…
/r/seduction01/03/17 09:08 PM
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what I love about the pickup journey is the long hard road of trial and error. Really though? Like yeah, it's awesome if you have started seeing success. I'm both successful and I'm good these days. So it's like standing on top of the mountain and enjoying the view. I have more to learn - there are more mountains to scale, but it's pretty nice where I'm at :) But it fucking sucked. I spent a couple years approaching before I really had success. All I wanted was a girlfriend to bang at first. Now…
/r/seduction01/03/17 06:22 PM
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You're a good poster who knows your stuff. Good work.
/r/seduction28/02/17 09:40 PM
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lol when I'm fully in THE ZONE I'll yell at chicks from across the street or way ahead of me or anyone walking by, yeah. I make it very flirty and fun. I'm not standing still whistling and hoping they make a move.
/r/seduction28/02/17 09:18 PM
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Are we actually better of PLANNING our open for a few seconds first which kind of goes against teh three second rule? No. Think about your interactions and how you can improve at the end of the night or the next day. Don't do it in the moment. Come up with a plan ahead of time (before you go out for the evening). Have some go-to follow ups after you say "hi". But you should absolutely not plan after you decide you are going to approach. You WILL NOT APPROACH if you do this. You will talk yoursel…
/r/seduction28/02/17 07:15 PM
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Important concept: women make decisions based on how they feel in the moment, not how they are, objectively, long-term. When you are having fun conversation and flirting, she is feeling those positive emotions. If you text her or catch her after a shit day a work, she probably won't be feeling those emotions. You won't be able to speak to her in the same way, because she feels different. If you want to get back to that place of fun, sexual conversation, you have to change her emotions, not her m…
/r/seduction28/02/17 06:21 PM
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You'll never stop thinking about pussy. It's engrained in your brain to constantly have those thoughts. Run and hide all you want. Come up with all the excuses you want. Who knows. Who cares. I don't care. I just think you're being dishonest with yourself. You have time. You can form a connection with someone in 10 minutes. That's pretty damn cool and not a lot of time at all. Imagine if you slept 10 minutes less every day during the week and met a new person every day. You're fucking 20. You wo…
/r/seduction28/02/17 05:27 PM
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Nah. They will say, "dump her you're better there's others out there". And: "Seek therapy." No action.
/r/seduction27/02/17 09:11 PM
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Go out and talk to women. In fact, there was a random girl that came up to me at a nightclub and made out with me after talking for 20 seconds. If you go out and get a few reference experiences like this, you'll be able to draw on those experiences any time you doubt yourself. Then you'll stop doubting yourself.
/r/seduction27/02/17 05:29 PM
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"Hey I don't think I'm over my ex. I can't handle a relationship emotionally, and think we should stop seeing each other. Want to come over and say 'oh my god yes, oh my god yes' and 'goodbye'?"
/r/seduction27/02/17 03:56 PM
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You should generally not bring up politics. I actively avoid/deflect the subject until I've built up trust and have a relationship with a girl before talking politics. I'm a Trump supporter in San Francisco. So there aren't many that align, even remotely, politically. Even if you agree, politics is not a discussion that leads to fun emotions. On a related note, you ought to be capable of having a rational conversation about politics without resorting to insults and personal attacks. Obviously. M…
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:49 PM
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See: women's march. Not all women are this self aware.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/17 04:29 PM
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I generally agree with this. Good post. 'inner game' = confidence WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT HOT GIRLS. It is funny when the "alpha male" in the workplace begs for his wife on the phone. Sad, but the phoniness and lack of understanding is funny.
/r/seduction22/02/17 03:58 PM
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Escalate to tickle war.
/r/seduction21/02/17 09:16 PM
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Pillow fight.
/r/seduction21/02/17 09:15 PM
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My favorite wing man is Pakistani. Looks Indian, probably 5'8. Parents moved from Pakistan. He carries a slight accent. Slays. White chicks, asian chicks. Chicks. Only thing he does that I don't like is he uses an American name.
/r/seduction21/02/17 06:33 PM
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Have any one of you ever broken free of something like this, from the brink of total defeat, when all hope is seemingly lost? Yeah dude. Like every 7th article on this subreddit is someone posting the same thing. Same story. 18-22 years old. University. Sucks with chicks but has been "working on being better". Meanwhile, you get the dudes that are older (even just mid-20s) that have been doing this for some time that are providing answers to questions and have success picking up chicks. These du…
/r/seduction21/02/17 06:03 PM
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Have sex the night before.
/r/seduction21/02/17 03:32 PM
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lol I need to go in for a medical teeth whitening. One day. It doesn't bother me and it doesn't bother them. But like, it's not good.
/r/seduction20/02/17 11:37 PM
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This is dumb advice. All women are unique, but before that 2% of uniqueness they are biologically similar and there are patterns that you should be aware of to make a relationship work. There are things that turn women on and turn women off and your girl and OP's girl are no exception. With that said, here are some mindsets you should adopt, off the top of my head. *You are more important than her. *You have more to offer from a value perspective. Don't let the fact that she has a pussy interfer…
/r/seduction20/02/17 06:43 PM
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I'm dating a girl that lives 2 hours away. I don't have a car, so she always comes to me. I'm that good lol. OP, pick a place that works for what you want. If you're trying to bang her, pick a place near your place or hers. Don't each be driving half an hour just to hug each other good night.
/r/seduction17/02/17 04:57 PM
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Go out tonight and talk someone :) That will get you in the social mood to go out and kill it tomorrow. Consider tonight your warm-up. I dare ya.
/r/seduction16/02/17 09:49 PM
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Inner game and outer game reinforce each other. You don't have one or the other, they simply exist. If one is strong, it builds the other. If they are both weak, you have work to do. You're correct that calculated behavior and consciously going through the outer motions is awkward. But it beats doing nothing. All you need is one positive reference point of this "material" (outer game) working, and you gain the confidence (inner game) that it can work. Likewise, when you are rock solid in your at…
/r/seduction16/02/17 09:42 PM
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It's a sign that you might be dominant. If you're not tall you can just be dominant.
/r/seduction16/02/17 07:52 PM
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I went on a Tinder date once. Went for kiss two or three times throughout the evening. Rejected every time. She texted me later that night saying it's a hard rule that she doesn't kiss on first date even though she wanted to. I said kissing and touching's important to me and it needs to be important to her. I never texted her again (she wasn't exactly her profile picture). She texted me for three weeks, unanswered. It was, indeed, strange lol. Point of my story - don't look into it too much. Som…
/r/seduction16/02/17 04:59 PM
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Better to have an empty mind when talking to people than a full mind crunching scenarios. For all the reasons ThrowawayPUA said. You get better at thinking on your feet and being social by being social. Not by thinking thinking of more canned answers.
/r/seduction16/02/17 03:59 PM
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You gotta have something going for you. Think about it - why would a girl want to be with you? Give her a reason. Be great at oral sex lol something. There's a lot of ways you can bring value to the table and be attractive. Also, think about the options a woman has. A beautiful actress in elite social circles will have a million people falling for her and running game on her. The hot drunk coed in a college bar after midnight has limited (short term) options. Make moves.
/r/seduction16/02/17 03:55 PM
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Congrats on having sex though.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:55 PM
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I didn't come, I don't think. I can confirm that you did not cum.
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:55 PM
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lol
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:51 PM
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OP is questioning. And so far two people have listened to Deangelo and vouched for him.
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:47 PM
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David Deangelo is really good. He's great for examples of what to say. His content is worth the cost if you go his route.
/r/seduction15/02/17 07:34 PM
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These days i'm going out every night lol. I'm tired and I have a cold most of the time. I do occasional day game on the train and walk home. I go to bars for happy hour/Warriors games. On weekends I go to more party bars. I approach way more than college. College was just drunk party/bar approaching. These days I have game lol.
/r/seduction15/02/17 06:48 PM
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STRONG second this. All caps strong second this.
/r/seduction15/02/17 06:45 PM
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I've fucked girls I really didn't like but not really dated - at least not for any period of time when we had a serious lack of chemistry. One had zero sense of humor (recent), one was deathly afraid to open up because of shit previous relationships, one didn't do anything or have anything to talk about except going to clubs in Vegas lol (hottest chick I've been out with, for shame). So yeah, I disagree with letsgetrandy. When it comes to dealbreakers, don't deal with them. It's not about trying…
/r/seduction15/02/17 05:50 PM
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I don't text any girls except main chick. Everyone else, wait til tomorrow. If you don't have a main chick, save it for tomorrow.
/r/seduction15/02/17 12:58 AM
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Nah I'd stay in if I were you. Esp if you live in my neighborhood. I'll be out and about.
/r/seduction14/02/17 07:07 PM
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Should make new posters take a quiz based on the FAQ before they can post ;)
/r/seduction14/02/17 05:08 PM
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I don't like it. I'm all for using an app/going out to a bar to pickup on valentines day, but I wouldn't ask out a girl you see on this day. I see it as kind of a hail mary. Get her number today or next time you see her but don't take her out today and pretend it's not valentines day. Don't bring it up. If she does, laugh that you're asking her out on valentines day.
/r/seduction14/02/17 04:27 PM
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Outer game includes things you say and even body language. Inner game is your mindset. It's the why you say and do these things.
/r/seduction14/02/17 04:24 PM
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Breh you don't need a pat on the back. Get back out there and talk to people ;)
/r/seduction13/02/17 10:23 PM
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Blocked at work lol shoot. You going to post these to youtube/ lovesystems site after?
/r/seduction13/02/17 10:02 PM
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"Let's vodka and chill ;)" Do it. Pour some water in your bottle to save some more money. She might come over if you run good game. I've only had a couple first dates just inviting her over.
/r/seduction13/02/17 09:55 PM
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Approach! That's as close to a woman will get to "cold approaching" you. I take standing near me as an IOI. Say hi.
/r/seduction13/02/17 05:12 PM
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You're sense of self-worth rose. You see yourself as better than you were and are less willing to spend time with lower-value women. It's a good thing. Think of it as related to your mindset though, and not your dollars.
/r/seduction13/02/17 05:10 PM
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Hah I hear ya. These "losers" are able to communicate a strength to their woman in some way. Whether through lack of options on part of the woman, or the dude is an alpha in his social circle. Think the dude that organizes and is the shit at a magic the gathering event. He's the alpha in that circle, but I'd make fun of him :) The more options a woman has the less likely she'll settle for a schmuck.
/r/seduction13/02/17 04:28 PM
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Dudes get chicks by employing the behaviors we learn studying pickup. For example, the dude that organizes fun activities has status because he's leading people and others follow. The sports star has status because he's competing with other men and winning. The boss at the office has status because people report to him. These are attractive behaviors to women. Studying pickup, we learn to adopt these behaviors without applying ourselves in our career, in sports achievement, or by going camping. …
/r/seduction13/02/17 03:54 AM
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But gotta be intelligent about your growth. I mean repeating the same thing over and over again won't improve your skills no matter the period. You are correct. My statement assumes you consider your actions and are motivated to change in order to see results. I tend to approach when I have friends because I am more confident. That's fine, but it can be a crutch :) Same as having a drink, a cigarette, etc. One girl a night? If you make this your goal and stick to it, you'll end up talking to way…
/r/seduction13/02/17 03:42 AM
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Two days bro. Don't give in sooner!
/r/seduction09/02/17 11:44 PM
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The experience of going out every night. Not only in terms of number of interactions, but the results would be compounding since you're going out constantly/always "warmed up". Plus, you don't have friends to rely on. I love going out with friends or a wing but it's easy to use as a crutch or reason to not approach. Solo, you have no such luxury and have to approach. So yeah. I guarantee if you go out every night, alone, for two years, and talk to a new girl every night, you will be a rockstar. …
/r/seduction09/02/17 09:57 PM
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Good for you dude. Sounds like you matured a lot this year. Stay positive, healthy, and happy. Question number one: What are your thoughts on this? What I do is stand next to a bar, order myself glass of water and wait until girl plants herself somewhere around me or sit in a quite isolated area and do the same thing. If the thing is real I go for it... but it's hard for me to get it sometimes. For example, I noticed a more "experienced one" watching me, I turn my head and she looks away right a…
/r/seduction09/02/17 08:47 PM
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If you get worked up about something she's upset by, aren't you surrendering to her frame? Yes. Should you ever fight with your GF? No. You'll have disagreements and she'll ask why you still flirt with other women (lol, maybe), and she'll test your honesty. But you should not get emotionally worked up over her shit (or any shit really), and you shouldn't attack her emotional moods with logic. Most dudes will attack her emotional moods with logic. That goes no where. TLDR: You're correct and you …
/r/seduction09/02/17 07:30 PM
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If you go out alone every night, for two years, women will be naturally drawn to you.
/r/seduction09/02/17 06:22 PM
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I agree with this. I compliment my girls on their outfits or hair if it's something I want them to do again. Reinforce good behavior. I don't really compliment girls before having sex with them. Not a hard rule. Just doesn't really happen. I've never really thought about that before, but it's probably best that way.
/r/seduction09/02/17 06:00 PM
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Dancing and kissing aren't a big deal for chicks. Did he close? If so, learn something from him. Otherwise, either stay in the game for pickup or go out to dance and kiss. I'm not out there to dance and kiss.
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:29 PM
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Tap on shoulder. She turns around. "Oh heyyyyy".
/r/seduction08/02/17 10:57 PM
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Got the green light to be expressive in text messages. Started being honest in both words and actions with how I manage relationships and relationship expectations. Both of these happened in the last year and both were biggies.
/r/seduction08/02/17 10:39 PM
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I'm interested in just meeting high quality women and entering into a dedicated, long, and passionate relationship. I really want to just be me, but just having a better and deeper understanding of vocal and physical communication. Even if you're not a fan of pua content you've read, understand why it works and why it's useful for attracting women. Then decide how you can be you and make it work to get the results you want. You gon' end up a pickup artist ;)
/r/seduction08/02/17 09:12 PM
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Game is everything :) Good work man. Congrats on the whole v-card punch. That's one more barrier that won't interfere next time.
/r/seduction08/02/17 09:04 PM
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Keep frame at all times. She called me out on multiple things and I messed up by replying "fair point" and falling into her frame. She reiterates: "I'm not criticizing or attacking you, I'm just being honest and want to help you." Yeah man. You really need to work on this. Even talking exes, you can't be weirded out by conversation. You can change the subject, but you can't allow yourself to be uncomfortable in her presence. You know what you need to do, but you got ran over in this interaction.…
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:49 PM
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Dude said his problem is people think he's weird, even though he's having fun. He's got a good mindset, but his issue is with calibrating his social skills to specific situations. Game is a big umbrella covering pretty much everything. In this case, I'm challenging OP to analyze what's going wrong (why is he not getting the results he wants) in his interactions and understand why. Is he coming across too aggressive? Too aloof? Not aggressive enough? If you're not getting the results you want, yo…
/r/seduction08/02/17 06:32 PM
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Now's a great time to learn game. You have the confidence. Now you can learn the game tactics and mindsets that will take your success in life and women to the next level. Do it.
/r/seduction08/02/17 05:01 PM
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its not just about the women its the overall social skills you develop. So is talking to women. Talking to women addresses your problem directly and efficiently without bosses, HR departments, research, admin work and other things that happen with a job. Don't get a job to improve your game. Talk to women to improve your game.
/r/seduction08/02/17 04:49 PM
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Don't ask at battered women's shelter/trump protest.
/r/seduction08/02/17 04:39 PM
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I'm in a situation where I act extremely confident in front of my girl in priviate when it's just me and her, but in public I can sometimes be submissive, and even feminine. Why? It's fucking terrible to act feminine in front of your girl. Make the decisions and don't ask. Own her like you own her in the bedroom. Like, with pants on though. To not take ownership is bad game and disrespectful. You're disrespecting her by not treating her like a woman.
/r/seduction07/02/17 11:28 PM
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Number of dates or number closes could work. But that could just mean you spending more time finding dates, as oppose to being any better. Shoot for number and percentage. For instance, a cool moment for me was getting a very cold phone number to go out with me and bang. See if you can lay every number you get. I can take most of my relationships in the direction I want, which is way different from when I started and I just hoped they'd let me have sex with them if I did the right things. Don't …
/r/seduction07/02/17 07:19 PM
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"I couldn't help but notice you spend a lot of time on your knees" wink. lol ask her for coffee. That's straightforward, which is fine. Lot of situationals today, seddit.
/r/seduction07/02/17 06:18 PM
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"Pssst. What are you reading?"
/r/seduction07/02/17 04:19 PM
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This is all good man. You're starting to become less inhibited and pressured by outside forces, and starting to figure out who you are. That's fun. It's scary. You're going to piss off some people. You may even lose some friends in the process. But it's a growth process. Those who stick around with you when you're being honest are the only folks you want sticking around long term. Even if you have less drinking buddies short term. Not that you can't keep people around as drinking buddies that do…
/r/seduction07/02/17 12:18 AM
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I just gave you one example. I'm not giving you dick lol. Lesson 2. Don't expect from women. Don't expect from me :)
/r/seduction06/02/17 11:31 PM
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But now, having discovered through a friend that she said ''He bored me and kept asking me about my work'' I obviously didn't do OK! Thing is, I didn't keep asking her about her damn job! Get some emotions going, dude. After she told me what she done, I asked her why she done that job. She told me. I told her than my sister done the same job, and that was it. She doesn't give a fuck about your sister. Do this: [After she told me what she done, I asked her why she done that job. She told me. I to…
/r/seduction06/02/17 10:19 PM
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So for the first time ever im "exclusive" but not a couple. She doesnt want me sleeping around or meeting others. Quit giving her all the power bro. She's going to keep running over you until you stand up and refuse to be run over. You're not in an exclusive relationship until you decide you're in an exclusive relationship. You're not affected by her insults until you decide you've been insulted. You're not attractive to women once you decide to stop trying to attract women.
/r/seduction06/02/17 07:30 PM
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lol why? So they go out with you cuz of pity they feel for you putting in effort instead of genuine attraction?
/r/seduction06/02/17 07:13 PM
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On the way home, yeah lol. I live near a financial district and early evenings, I agree, there's thousands of good looking girls walking around, catching trains and shit. Be on the lookout for opportunities. To address your question, since getting to work on time is important, I'd take an earlier train and get to a coffee shop before work or get a bfast burrito. The girls in there won't be in as big a rush. I wake up at the last possible second to make my train so mornings aren't an option to be…
/r/seduction06/02/17 06:18 PM
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Before you talk to her: she's standing near you. After you start talking to her: she's still standing there.
/r/seduction06/02/17 06:08 PM
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See her once a week. Not on Tuesdays in February.
/r/seduction06/02/17 05:13 PM
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Yeah it was fine though. She "never do this kind of thing" :)
/r/seduction02/02/17 09:24 PM
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Don't take the path of least resistance. Learn game. lol fun FR and comments though.
/r/seduction02/02/17 09:22 PM
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They're going to judge you and her. So first, yes, they will notice it's you. And two, she doesn't want to be judged as a slut by her friends. If she's making out with a stranger on the dance floor and leaves, it's to bang someone she just met. If she goes for a late night coffee or chicken fried steak, it could be the one that she's trying to connect with. Or so it feels. It's an anti-slut thing.
/r/seduction02/02/17 04:15 PM
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Kissing in a club/public place can absolutely be a deal breaker. A girl will be in the moment with you and down, but she then has to turn to her friends and explain to them she's not going home with them. "Why not?" "Hot dude i've been making out with on the dance floor." Here she sounds like a slut in front of her friends. Versus not kissing and her telling her friends, "Met nice dude, going to get a bite at Mel's Diner two blocks down then Uber home and I'll text you every step of the way." So…
/r/seduction01/02/17 11:10 PM
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Here's my moral issue. I have a date coming up with a different cute girl and I honestly don't know if it's something I should mention to girl A? You should not. You have made no promises of monogamy, and should continue with that. I feel like if I told her she'd either be like "why are you bothering to tell me that?" Most likely. She would sense that it bothers you, in which case your insecurity would bother her. Again, don't do it. since we aren't really anything, but I could also see her find…
/r/seduction01/02/17 11:04 PM
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I'm here cuz work banned twitter and I like talking about relationships and game. So, for shame, I don't cold approach from 9-5 lol. I'm here because it's fun to see and discuss how different people meet and relate with others. Including your perspective. I poked fun, but if it works for you, do you man. My way works also ;)
/r/seduction01/02/17 10:07 PM
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Thanks man. No more approaching women and talking to them. Gotta get a pallet of condoms for this.
/r/seduction01/02/17 09:37 PM
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The whole point of apps is to profit from the use of apps. The whole point of bars is to profit from strangers drinking in the same room.
/r/seduction20/01/17 09:39 PM
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Point to empty seat. "Hey you mind if I -" "Yeah, no problem!" "flirt?"
/r/seduction20/01/17 05:10 PM
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He's excellent. One of the greats and one of the most passionate teachers.
/r/seduction20/01/17 12:22 AM
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Two girls have broken up with me to "study for the gmat". Still trying to find the humor in that :)
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 05:14 PM
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Maintain frame, bro. Maintain who you are. Don't scale back the sexual or the non-cute if you're sexual and not cute. Continue to be you and enjoy her for who she is (swat away her goofy requests). Most women are attracted to this kind of behavior ("This is the real me, take it or leave it.") so usually this approach will go over well. Long run, it's the only way to do it. She's young though, and likes the drama and sparkling wine because that's what she expects. She may not stand for your boldn…
/r/seduction19/01/17 04:56 PM
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Probably trolling but whatever. Listen to everyone else. What if you reach your ideal in terms of attractiveness? What then? Women won't approach you. They might stand closer to you in a bar. They might look over at you. But they won't approach you. So let's say you walk up to her. You say hi. Then what? You're physically perfect, you said hi. Is she going to have sex with you because you said hi? Or do you think you still might have to make her comfortable enough to leave her friends and go hom…
/r/seduction19/01/17 04:43 PM
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I listen to country and punk rock. No girls (in the city) listen to country, and no girls over 16 listen to punk rock. I do just fine with girls over 16 that live in the city.
/r/seduction19/01/17 04:21 PM
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lol far less controversial than I thought. Solid, coherent post though. Go out and do something. It's simple and fun.
/r/seduction19/01/17 04:19 PM
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lol I spend a lot of time with women. Like, every day I'm either out (usually meeting new people) or hanging with one chick. It's how I spend my evenings after work. I'm with Gainzdalf - I'm cheap :) I usually plan dates after dinner and make sure they're not expecting to be fed. I don't pay for a lot of drinks. Usually after date 1 or 2 we usually just bang and talk, which happen to be a couple "hobbies" of mine.
/r/seduction18/01/17 10:59 PM
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People advise you to get lots of hobbies and learn an instrument and work out more and get a better job etc (inner game) All of these are external things. And you're damn right they aren't related at all. That's my beef with redpill lol - they're all bitter dudes pushing careers and hobbies when what they really want is a hottie or two. Inner game is your mindset. It's your view of the world, including women. Do you see hot girls as different? Or are you comfortable enough in your own skin to ta…
/r/seduction18/01/17 05:43 PM
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Don't make your life about women. Make your life about you and your passions, and the women will come. What if they don't? :) I know plenty of dudes with great jobs and they bike ride and race cars and rock climb and do cool shit. No girls. Life is about relationships. It's about women. Figure them out. Then figure out the rest of it.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/17 05:29 PM
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I agree with everything you wrote, strongly, but I'm going to challenge your views on inner game. My friends are all 10x more self confident than me, and have excellent, very well paid careers, but most of them would never have the balls too approach a hot girl at a bar. That 'self confidence' that they have 'in general' (confidence in their abililty to earn shit loads of money, confidence with their hobbies etc) DOESN'T transfer over to confidence to talking to stunning young girls wearing shor…
/r/seduction18/01/17 05:07 PM
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Most people are terrible at seduction. Most people spend no time understanding what women want and their worldview of Disney movies and TV is never challenged by outside material. Most men date a few women they meet in social circles or at work and then get married. Yeah there are guys that "just get it" from birth and the way they were raised. Those are not most people.
/r/seduction18/01/17 04:49 PM
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Solid post OP. Texting is a sensitive subject 'round these parts :) Texting evolved to this. Brief/meetup text game worked when the competition was sending goofy messages and apologizing because she didn't get the context of text message humor and being really needy when there was no visual feedback. Now I'm your competition. I get girls worked worked up and excited to see and have her hands all over me, through text message. I'm not needy and instead I get her excited. It's the difference of pu…
/r/seduction18/01/17 04:41 PM
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Eh. You don't have to have a large friend circle, but you have to be social and really be able to befriend anyone. Pickup is about developing advanced social skills. It's about making other people happy, both through fun interaction and good sex. A good pickup artist lives for this fun energy. It makes him happy when other people are happy. Pickup should be enjoyable. And it is. Once you get down some basics and get over being rejected your 1000th time :)
/r/seduction18/01/17 04:29 PM
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Good review. I'll check his stuff out because of your comparisons to other material I've learned from. Plus, I got a hardon reading the sex scene ;)
/r/seduction17/01/17 08:56 PM
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Yup. Value in the sense that your time is valuable so you're not going to put up with goofy behavior. You don't have the time for that. Related, general aloofness suggests that you have options with other women and are not dependent on this particular girl to satisfy any of your needs. That's attractive.
/r/seduction17/01/17 07:07 PM
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You're not a sexual threat. You're a girlfriend. That's what's going through her head. Once you're in that "zone", it's really hard to get out because she needs to change her perception of you. I've done it but it took me going on a major change while not seeing girl for a significant period of time.
/r/seduction17/01/17 07:03 PM
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I still had my fantasies of meeting pretty girls, of course. You said this several times. As you know, this will never change lol. Do with that information what you want - whether you want to break up and bang a lot of women and then "settle down" later. Or, break up and try to get a primary LTR where you hook up outside. You're mature enough to handle this (may fail at first ;) but you can hang). You won't convince your current girlfriend to do this, but you can make it happen with the next awe…
/r/seduction17/01/17 06:26 PM
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they go about life only using their emotions/feelings Start finding the beauty in this. It can be a positive.
/r/seduction16/01/17 08:55 PM
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"Good girl" is a powerful reward. I use it in bed a lot to reward her for eg doing what I ask. Positive reinforcement :)
/r/seduction16/01/17 06:26 PM
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Take my girls out. I want to fake my death mid-February.
/r/seduction16/01/17 06:17 PM
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Been going out for a while with not so great results. 21 yo college student. Keep at it man. The more you go out and try the things you learn, the more it will all make sense. Over time, interactions and observation coupled with whatever learning you've done will start to click and you will see results you dreamed of having, but they won't feel like a dream come true. This shit takes time. But if you keep after it, good things, and good women, will come. 1) How can I integrate the apparently con…
/r/seduction16/01/17 06:00 AM
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I was a DJ in college for two years. Chicks would come up and ask to have sex with the dj. Without introduction, "Want nookie tonight?" I said no cuz I was a nervous wreck loser in college. lol who says nookie? Easiest same night pull? Several in this category. I met a girl by herself at a bar. She was friends with the bartender. Ten minutes of flirty conversation, kissed, then left to "smoke a bowl". If you know what I mean.
/r/seduction13/01/17 03:03 AM
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Define your relationship with the new girl. Tell her, with both your words and the way you treat her (no cute dates or anything), that you are not leaving your girl for her and she is to expect nothing but great sex out of you. Or like, whatever you want the relationship to be.
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:59 AM
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"I'm about to swing by the store did you want me to grab you something?" I have 100% success rate with it. (3 for 3). But does it have the legs to sustain me through multiple matches? What's success? Is it a response/date/lay? Just curious. Solid line though. I like assuming the sale. Pun, in your case?
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:50 AM
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I strongly agree on building comfort to get strong responses for future interaction. But... No texting skills in the world will change this. Not true! lol step your game up and tell me no texting skills will change this. It's like game in person. You have to attract first if you have a cold number. It's a different style then someone you had a full conversation with and know about. It's absolutely a skill that can be built and results reflect that.
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:37 AM
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The main thing is go out and talk to women. Take everything you read as a hypothesis, not law. Then go out and try it. I don't care who wrote it. That's how you will learn what works for you, what women respond to and why. Keep reading this material but don't get tied up into "mystery said this, tyler said that". Talk to women and incorporate what you read for a period of time to decide if both women like it and you like it.
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:34 AM
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I thought "netflix and chill" meant sex. If you want to go from sex to kissing, just like, finish. lol as far as making a move in the opposite direction, if a girl is watching a movie on your couch in your shitty apartment with no one else around, she doesn't want to watch a movie. Just make your move.
/r/seduction12/01/17 12:44 AM
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I agree with this. If you want to hold hands in a museum, hold hands in a museum. If you want sex, be sexual and lead the interaction to that. Aggressive make-outs, movies at your place that never end up being watched, etc.
/r/seduction12/01/17 12:41 AM
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PUAs find a way to get the girl lol. We would not "just move on". Every girl is a beautiful challenge.
/r/seduction12/01/17 12:39 AM
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It sets up a role play which is fun (you laughed, so does a chick w a sense of humor) and emotional. All in under 2 minutes :)
/r/seduction11/01/17 07:08 AM
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"No no. I'm THE ONE. You know. To marry and grow old with and die and leave you a sad old widow." DUH ;)
/r/seduction11/01/17 06:51 AM
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When you flirt with a girl, she's in one emotional state. When you're texting her at a later time, you have to assume she's not in that state. Get her in that state of mind. Say something fun. You didn't invest anything in the conversation. There was no comfort built. You can't go low-investment in that situation. Open up a fun conversation. She responded today saying, "who's this" How should I respond in a way where it's lighthearted and funny? "I'm the one ;) we met at the show."
/r/seduction11/01/17 05:58 AM
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lol "bitches" are hella hot. Love em.
/r/seduction11/01/17 05:56 AM
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If alcohol's the biggest challenge, order a club soda with a lime lol. I don't drink much, so be fine with it. Eventually it won't effect you and you'll tell girls that ask, "I don't drink you goofy, forgetful alcy :)" So yeah. Don't get phased, and if you want to fake it, fake it. Don't worry about your looks. Worry about your game. Go to where the girls are, when they are there. If they're at the club, go to the club. Who cares what the DJ's playing. You're on a mission :) If you're looking fo…
/r/seduction11/01/17 01:19 AM
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Humans are wired to think about sex constantly, cuz evolution (see Darwin on survival and replication). So, you're not going to stop thinking about it. You say you want to do things that make you happy, but you're going to be thinking of sex the whole time you're doing those things you convince yourself makes you happy. You gonna do something about it?
/r/seduction10/01/17 06:39 AM
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The number one thing about going out and picking up strange women with the goal being to have sex with them is putting yourself in situations that are fucking difficult. You learn to deal with massive social pressure when you go out and throw yourself at the beautiful women in a bar. When you can deal with that social pressure, dates, online messaging, relationship management - it's all fucking easy (though different) in comparison. You don't "get good" with women on tinder. You get good with wo…
/r/seduction10/01/17 06:36 AM
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lol if you read any Darwin you know we are programmed to think about sex constantly. Whether you're getting it or not. Might as well do something about it. Disagree that a dude with shit genes can't get any. You can be ugly, broke and friendless but learn game and go out and win with women. There's a whole lot of ladies out there and a whole lot of dudes on reddit talkin bout not getting any. It's selfish that they aren't getting any. These girls know I'm not going to stay with them forever. The…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/17 11:32 PM
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Yo Indianwise! Nice play here. Great in person. The issue: text game! Really no notes from the initial interaction. Given you only had a minute to chat, you ran solid game. If you had more time, the opportunity to push the conversation a fun direction followed the "bull-running type" comment. Eg, "I've never ran with the bulls, but I am the type ;) [story. risk taking/adventure/dhv]." The text game was weak though. You have to remember, girls respond based on their emotional state. You had her e…
/r/seduction09/01/17 11:23 PM
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Go out every day and be social.
/r/seduction09/01/17 10:37 PM
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lol cute shit. You know. Hand holding, buying things (dinners, lunches, I don't buy much except meals and that's only for my main girl lol, I guess other dates), spending a weekend night with her, going on full-day dates, eating her butt. Cute shit ;)
/r/seduction06/01/17 09:13 PM
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Don't ask her. You set the relationship frame. If you want a relationship, do cute shit and see her more than once a week. If you want fwb, no more than once a week.
/r/seduction06/01/17 07:52 PM
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Pickup is like going to the gym. You go to the gym for the first year because you want big muscles so girls take notice and you'll get laid. Then after a year it's become a part of who you are, it's a healthy activity that makes you feel strong physically and mentally, and it's something you want to do regardless of female attention. You get into pickup to get laid, and like others said, it becomes a whole part of who you are and a habit of self improvement. You develop skills, and start to enjo…
/r/seduction06/01/17 07:44 PM
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He was right, as always, but it is just frustrating. Every time I fix something, another thing comes up which I should have done better. It is insanity I feel. I just cannot be myself and find someone who accepts me for who I am. I have to learn seduction and more of it just to land a frickin kiss. Pickup is a hell of a rabbit hole lol. will it ever be two humans coming together and just appreciating their presence? Yes. That is the goal. It is doable. It is hard and takes time and learning and …
/r/seduction06/01/17 07:37 PM
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If you don't want monogamy, don't do monogamous shit. Don't call her or text her every day. Don't see her more than once a week. Don't do cute dates that last all day. A little hack would be to fake it til you make it. Pretend you're dating seven women. Block your calendar with shit to do so you can't see chick. Like, "i'm going to bars ever day this week except monday and wednesday. If Monday and Wednesday don't work out with her, we can shoot for next week." That is the mindset of someone with…
/r/seduction06/01/17 06:46 PM
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Lots of seduction material available for setting up this type of relationship. I don't know my way around this sub, but to answer your question, that relationship is easy to find. Doesn't matter where you are. Women will be attracted to the same qualities. Be sexy, be honest with your intentions and actions, and you can have whatever you want in life :)
/r/seduction06/01/17 06:36 PM
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Sushi, <21 salsa dancing, or oyster bar, or walk someplace cool. Do a picnic and make her buy booze.
/r/seduction06/01/17 06:32 PM
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This isn't true. What's best for you is what's best for the relationship. Ordinary advice does not focus on maintaining a relationship, it gives false advice based on what women say they want, which red pill knows is utter shit, rather than how they are biologically. "A happy man is a healthy relationship" - Patrice.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/17 06:27 PM
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Instead, I just gave her what she claimed to want. These are the basics of red pill and how women work lol - chicks say one thing but behave different. You, OP, need to be the one that communicates with her on all these levels. Auvergnat is exactly right when he compares the basic social awareness of the coffee station with the red pill student's awareness of a half-naked chick telling you she does't want the D.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/17 01:01 AM
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Congratulations I guess. However, you have some learning to do about red pill. Namely, that men and women are different, and we look for different things in each other. When you say things like: she had all the qualities we look for in an Alpha. Just didn't give a shit, I tell you. Are you relating this to lessons for alpha dudes I hope? Cuz like, most dudes don't find it attractive when chicks are aloof and display other masculine behaviors. Another: She was literally like 2/10. Yet she could h…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/17 12:28 AM
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Go out and try it OP. Let us know.
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:36 PM
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You want to establish that you are not looking for a serious relationship... even if they are. Don't give false hope just to sleep with them. This line is good advice but I disagree with a lot of the rest of the post. Go out and talk to average-looking women... All women like sex. Choose to have sex with women you find attractive. See where their heads are at... Girls are looking for someone that can give them value. If you're fun to be around, get her feeling positive (and can fuck her well), s…
/r/seduction05/01/17 07:14 PM
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It's good to have standards and enforce them. A shit date not ending the way you want is not a matter of enforcing standards though. As far as seduction goes, when the interaction doesn't go how you want (a date, this could be sex), you lose. She nexted you, and not the other way around. It's good to have an abundance mentality and actual abundance of women so one interaction doesn't get you down. But it's still a learning opportunity and something you should account for so that when you do have…
/r/seduction05/01/17 06:55 PM
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Tighten that there text game :) Lots of ghosts means there's an opportunity to improve somewhere. Could mean building more comfort when you initially meet and number close. Could mean improving text game to get responses and keep the interaction going. Don't be lazy and "not care" that "the one" gave you her phone number but didn't text you back :)
/r/seduction05/01/17 05:46 PM
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The first one. Do even more than that - "hey I know this great place for [oysters] on wednesdays. Let's do it. And get oysters ;) What's your number?" So yeah, it absolutely will get you less flakes if she commits to a specific date and then get her number.
/r/seduction27/12/16 10:07 PM
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RSD recommends meditation because it challenges you to live in the moment. You get out of your head, release your thoughts, and focus on the present - the act of sitting/breathing/meditating. When you're out talking to girls, you want to be out of your head, not thinking ahead, and be focused on the present moment. That is, according to RSD. And they know more than you or I do :) Meditation is practice for focusing on the present moment, which is the state you want to be in while [talking to chi…
/r/seduction23/12/16 09:41 PM
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I'd rather be the one who gets pursued. It's just not going to happen. You're clearly realizing this, and your gut is correct. Not sure how much experience you have dating - have you been with chicks that are dominant and have you played the dominant role in relationships and just not liked it? Or are you lazy? You're going to have to learn to attract the type of girl you find attractive. Most women are not (at their core) dominant or looking to be dominant in a relationship. That makes things d…
/r/seduction22/12/16 07:41 PM
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Should I just set the place and time and wait for her to let me know? I don't know enough details about your relationship with chick. Sounds like you haven't been out, but I don't know how long you've been in touch with her. If it's been more than a few days you may have to build some more comfort through text. Or should I add... not word for word but something like... Would like to meet you before ** day cause that's when my schedule gets busy again? No. Says two things, 1. you're not busy now …
/r/seduction22/12/16 07:32 PM
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Leave it to her to figure out if you're kidding or if you actually want to tie her down and blind her :)
/r/seduction22/12/16 05:46 PM
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Sex with a beautiful woman is so much fun though :)
/r/seduction22/12/16 05:42 PM
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Write it on your arm so you don't forget.
/r/seduction21/12/16 09:36 PM
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I personally lift 5-6 days a week and play basketball once or twice a week. I don't do cardio outside of basketball and walking (I walk quite a bit). I'll take a day off of everything every two or three weeks. It works.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/16 09:13 PM
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Women can sense, maybe see with their eyes (I'm not sure lol but it seems like it) your energy and your vibe. When you have good things going for you, women will want to be a part of that. Keep your momentum going, bro. Much easier than starting from still. And more fun :)
/r/seduction21/12/16 06:13 PM
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What do you want? If you want to have sex with something, do it. If you want to chase be rejected and work on yourself and get over rejection and all your insecurities and eventually start getting high quality women and spend a LOT of time and energy doing it, go for the great women.
/r/seduction21/12/16 05:56 PM
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Go to the gym every day. Lift at least four of those days.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/16 05:52 PM
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Don't wait for IOIs before approaching lol. You won't approach much. I like approaching chicks / groups i'm not really interested in, especially early in the night. You don't have to put it in every interaction that goes well. If all you have is attractive women around go for it, but be the life of the party for everyone. This is a big thing RSD stresses, and for good reason. Your value skyrockets when you get everyone around you having fun. Also surface beauty is very important, always.
/r/seduction21/12/16 05:49 PM
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lol plus, "Chill babe this is how sex works"
/r/seduction21/12/16 05:43 PM
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This is not a healthy view of relationships. It's tough dating up, but that's reason to improve yourself. Not to date an ugly broad. You should be the best thing in you and your woman's life. But you shouldn't view a relationship as dating down. That's lazy and will lead to resentment on your end.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/16 10:21 PM
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RSD shows not only what works, but they break down why it works. I'm really into the psychology behind this shit, and RSD is the best I've seen at providing that. Of course, it's up to you and me to go out and decide if their material works and has value.
/r/seduction20/12/16 09:48 PM
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Who cares if the videos are staged or not? Do you go out and try the stuff they talk about? Does it work for you? I'm a big fan of RSD and love the "in-fields".
/r/seduction19/12/16 10:14 PM
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Interesting post OP. Props for posting. Using your examples, Islam makes law what the red pill teaches should be practiced socially. One of the great things about life is breaking down barriers to enjoy freedoms. That's why people look forward to retirement and more sensible people do things like become entrepreneurs and others date multiple people. Islam removes freedom. Islam lays down a strict life plan that governs many aspects of life. Islam lays down laws to follow that follow very primal …
/r/TheRedPill19/12/16 07:31 PM
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This is red pill 101, bro. Most of your problems will go away if you're not in a monogamous LTR. Isn't that like a central theme in red pill? I hope so. If you maintain monogamous LTR, act like you're not. 1, Your happiness level is going to be unstable no matter what.Sometimes, it feels extremely pleasurable but most of the time, it sucks the energy out of you. When you're not monogamous you don't waste time with the negatives. You have other options/ other women and you're able to maintain you…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/16 06:49 PM
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lol nah it doesn't apply to chicks. Their eye contact is them saying, "be a man and come talk to me if you're interested." It's as strong a sign as a dude walking up and saying, "Hey you're hot." The reverse doesn't apply. It's on us to make a move.
/r/seduction19/12/16 06:28 PM
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Any advice fully swallowing the red pill? My advice, since you're new to this, is to assume everything you read and watch is true, until you see evidence contrary to it. You will learn fast and really challenge your worldview by approaching "red pill" teachings this way. Others will tell you what to read/watch.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/16 06:50 PM
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Neediness is unattractive because you're responding to her. When dude is "needy" and he escalates and she says no, dude gets pissed because he feels he's not sexy if he can't get her to accept his advances. You can be bold and needy and that's unattractive and a girl can pick up on that. You want to be bold and sure of yourself. If she rejects your advances, that's fine. "Ain't no thang because I'm sexy as hell and if she doesn't want in on all this sexy then that sucks for her; this is just a k…
/r/seduction15/12/16 05:25 PM
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Nah man. OP is out living life. He cautions against people reading redpill/bluepill/anything and not taking action. OP has success in his personal life and in his relationships. Why would he meltdown when he reads some online philosophy? What's reading the rational male going to change about his internal state, when he's already solidified his internals? OP has the self-awareness and internal confidence which are a pillar, a goal, of redpill. It doesn't matter that he didn't find come to find ha…
/r/seduction15/12/16 04:34 PM
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Seduce me first ;)
/r/seduction15/12/16 03:41 PM
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I love dirty texting! I've never sent naked pictures, but I do receive naked pictures. So I can't speak to whether or not that's something that's attractive or how to make the most of it. But I can write a nasty text message. Some fun ways to go about it.. Describe, in graphic detail, what you are going to do to her. Make sure to follow up on this lol. Text at inappropriate times. She's at a work dinner or some shit tell her how much you want her RIGHT NOW in the bathroom with all her friends ju…
/r/seduction15/12/16 04:38 AM
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Man why you hatin' on my game like that, B? I like your post a LOT and more people should re-read it than will. That said, I'm going to stick up for my fellow sedditors lol. There's many roads to inner freedom. Making strides in fitness and work are one. But many people get into those activities to get sex with girls instead of to make themselves happy. It's still healthy because you're moving towards something, but it's not necessarily done out of a place of honesty. Going out and trying to pic…
/r/seduction15/12/16 02:39 AM
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Should I continue as if it never happened and just try again or ignore her more than ever or something else? It depends what you mean by "rejection". You should not continue the interaction if she says explicitly, "I'm not interested in you, please leave." Or any, meaner variation of that :) But a chick saying she doesn't "want that" or looking at you like you're weird, is not rejection. This is where a lot of dudes that are new will bounce out of a set. Newbies think that if a girl isn't being …
/r/seduction14/12/16 11:41 PM
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Second, you'll have to be mindful of your speech. Be gentle with yourself. and this Be honest. Are contradictory. These are your friends. You shouldn't have to hold back anything. Censoring your speech is dishonest. As far as "aggressive unattractive" that's subjective. My friends and I are sarcastic and bash each other in good fun all the time. I love that kind of conversation. It's honest for my friends and I to talk like this because we like it. It's dishonest if we don't. To me, friends that…
/r/seduction14/12/16 10:55 PM
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We're hardwired as men to think of sex and women constantly. Up to you whether you act on that or try to suppress your natural thoughts. Get off your computer and talk to people.
/r/seduction14/12/16 10:18 PM
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To be more than a fuck buddy, treat her like more than a fuck buddy. See her more than once a week. Be a little heavier on the comfort game rather than aloof, but maintain your cool and your boundaries. Read Chateau Heartiste (the early archives) and listen to Patrice O'Neal on youtube (Listen to the black philip series). The two of them detail everything you need to know about relationship management and maintaining attraction. In short, know that you are the best thing in the universe and ther…
/r/seduction14/12/16 10:17 PM
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I disagree with this. Don't push to be friends with a girl when you're out sarging. If you're not sexy to girls, you're not going to be sexy to your girl. So a girl that's not attracted to you isn't going to go out with you and talk you up to her single friends. You get better at this by attracting girls. Not by talking to them once you've blown attraction. Similar interests? "Hey friend that's a girl want to go sarging?" lol
/r/seduction14/12/16 10:06 PM
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Good job here again IndianWise. I like a few things you're doing: 1)You seem to have a good sense of humor and like to self-amuse (do more of this in set). 2) You intro strong and confident. 3) You don't bounce out of sets too early. You ended this set early, but you at least asked for digits before bouncing. Then you stuck around and tried to persist. I like that. The main reason this interaction didn't work out is that you went for the number close too soon. You didn't solidify attraction. It …
/r/seduction14/12/16 09:51 PM
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Thank you Zan. Will read and review. Happy holidays!
/r/seduction14/12/16 09:22 PM
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You may come off smoother in those other situations, but often times the really hot chicks, the ones that get hit on 10 times while they're on their lunch break, they're going to be the ones that really filter for people who are full of shit or boring. So even though you've had success in the past by getting the girl talking, you should not be surprised when you come across another girl that appears less willing to open, such as the situation you described in the FR. It's real cool when a girl i…
/r/seduction14/12/16 05:10 AM
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Please do :)
/r/seduction14/12/16 05:03 AM
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This girl is actually pretty typical of a pretty girl. I would not label her as shy. She's just shy for you :) Issue was you didn't build attraction. You need to carry the weight of the conversation in the beginning until she's attracted. Be ready with interesting stories or routines to go through during the beginning of the interaction. I'll point this out in the breakdown. So I was at the mall chilling with my friend. Our agenda didn't exactly involve going around getting girls, but when we sa…
/r/seduction13/12/16 11:35 PM
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Then again, maybe I'm comparing myself too closely to someone else and need to just focus on having a good time. Exactly this. See your friend as someone who helps fuel the fun that you bring. If you have high value friends, you are more valuable yourself. Learn from his behaviors but more importantly, see him as a fun addition to the party you bring to any venue. Having a friend with strong game is only a bad thing if there's one girl. And that's rarely the case. And even that doesn't matter if…
/r/seduction13/12/16 11:08 PM
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lol r/redpill?
/r/seduction13/12/16 07:33 PM
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Thanks. I think the way I did it is healthy. I just need to get back to that place of "it doesn't matter". My game improved dramatically when I took a little time to analyze what went wrong with the interaction. So I'm not getting down, but I am in my head a bit. I think this is a necessary step along the journey. I'd like to hear what some of the pros have to say about this and whether this is healthy or now. If you just say "fuck everyone who doesn't want me", you don't learn from mistakes you…
/r/seduction13/12/16 06:23 PM
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You know who does? :)
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:27 PM
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Date six women at the same time and you'll see what I mean. If you don't have six women, pretend you have six women in your life. Meaning you're busy six days of the week. You don't text for several hours in the evening, and you don't have much time with her so spend it how you want or there is someone else who will.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:20 PM
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Say something you find fun. Hi I like you isn't fun. If you don't think it's fun, neither will she. For instance. "Hey this thing put us together. So I guess next our parents should meet and we should set the details for the wedding ya?" This worked really well for me on Tinder since the app's got the hookup reputation. I disagree about commenting on her profile.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:15 PM
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When I started rejection sucked. "I'm ugly" lol. Then rejection didn't matter. "There's someone else to talk to. Fuck everyone I'm the best there is." These days it's a learning opportunity. I see if there's something I did wrong. "I'm becoming the best there is." Ideally I'll get out of my own head, but there's some social things I'm particularly working on these days. Which could probably be solved by getting out of my own head now that I type this out lol. "I'm the best there is."
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:00 PM
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Great post. The dude that spills his beer cuz he's drunk and swinging his arms telling a story is an asshole. He's not going home with the 10. This independent aloof TheXXL talks about is called "asshole" when the man says something that he finds amusing that others don't/are offended by/are shocked by, and he doesn't apologize because he finds it amusing. That's sexy.
/r/seduction13/12/16 04:54 PM
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Thanks for the props man. Deserved! Well time-bridging I have tried and it comes to me as try-hard and needy. Sure, if the girl is interested then it can work but for neutral chicks, I don't feel congruent doing it. I would rather text them later and set up a meet. It shouldn't feel needy at all. During your initial interaction you should steer the direction towards either a close or a day 2 if logistics don't pan. If that's the case, you should be working the conversation towards a natural time…
/r/seduction13/12/16 04:36 PM
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No. It's about attraction, which has little to do with looks. Kino absolutely does NOT have to be done under a guise. That's dishonest, which is unattractive. Your kino challenge last week doesn't sound to have gone that bad. You did it. And what? One girl got weirded out. So what? Keep doing that until you are comfortable (with different girls lol). Again, she will feel what you feel. If you feel weird touching her, so will she. If you act like your kino advances are the most natural thing in t…
/r/seduction13/12/16 04:02 PM
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This. Bongoringo144 is right, but I'll go further. OP should be incorporating touch because the script says so. That's the only way he's going to learn to be "natural" down the road. It's not at first. Kino is a skill you pick up. Experiment and work on escalating physically, faster. If you're talking to a girl in isolation put your hand around her waist or wrap around to her shoulder. If sitting touch her thigh. Tell her her necklace is neat and touch her below the neck. Especially powerful if …
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:43 AM
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Break the frame. If you text her every day, go four or five days without and don't give any explanation. When she asks, maintain your footing. And don't ever let this happen again! Like sunthas said, so much easier to do from beginning of the relationship.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:24 AM
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Fuck that shit being used as a crutch or just an expense ;)
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:16 AM
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I used to wear a small necklace that every girl would ask about. I stopped wearing it cuz I wanted to pickup without that (or the neck tie or the sports coat or the sexy burgundy shoes lol). I had fun eliminating the things that were helping me. Now it's usually just my dirty red shirt, my words, and my hands. That's just my current phase based on my current goals. The sports coat with the necklace over my t-shirt is a panty-wetter lol.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:15 AM
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Two things that helped me with getting more day 2s are: 1 setup time bridge and 2 tightening my text game. I don't do much daygame, but when I number close I've become very good about making plans (even if they change) for a specific date at a specific kind of place (all girls love happy hour oysters, that's one of my go-tos lol). I spent a few weeks this year using tinder to experiment with my text game and made amazing discoveries. Basically, I learned I can be super sexual and fun and get res…
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:10 AM
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