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As a guy who has been about a 6 with and without game, and an 8-9 with and without game it doesn't matter enough to think about.
/r/seduction12/01/12 11:05 PM
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It's a shit test. This is only sightly tongue in cheek: she's not testing to make sure you're not using her for sex, she's making sure that you're just using her for sex. She's testing to see if you give a fuck. Just agree with it and keep things moving.
/r/seduction01/11/11 04:40 AM
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They probably don't even want to be friends. When they say stuff like we shouldn't be doing this, agree and keep going. Only stop when they're seriously telling you to stop. There's a difference between 'haha no' and 'NO STOP IT'. My guess is you're getting butt-hurt or stopping when they're just giving token resistance. That said, DON'T RAPE CHICKS, no means no some of the time...
/r/seduction01/11/11 04:34 AM
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Here's a mind fuck for you, thinking that a girl is into you isn't what makes her want you, feeling it is actually what makes her attracted. Rapport lets her feel what you're feeling, which turns her on. Seeing girls acting attracted is only one way to get there. Imagine what it would feel like for an extremely hot girl to be begging for you to fuck her. Just put that image in your head. Okay that's what you want to feel. Once you have the feeling it's easy to illicit, just put on the same facia…
/r/seduction01/11/11 04:24 AM
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When you talk to the girl have awesome eye contact, speak loud enough that someone three times the length between the two of you could hear perfectly, and speak in NR to BR tonality. Talk about whatever you want to, always assume she wants you. Get in as close as she's comfortable with, you figure this out by going in too far, seeing her get uncomfortable and dialling it back a little. Use this same principle for all escalation. You're escalation will cause her to be turned on. Approach a lot, t…
/r/seduction01/11/11 04:11 AM
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Based on my interactions with them, they really aren't very different from younger girls. You can go sexual with them faster and easier, and they're always going to shit test you about your age. When they ask your age, say "22" like you're god's gift to women. My favourite improvised line: Her: "I'm too old for you" Me: "You don't look it" **sexual tone while leering into her eyes
/r/seduction01/11/11 03:53 AM
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No you handled it well. I would have ignored them completely, and kept on with my own conversation until they left. If they kept trying to get after her, I would have lead her away. Sitting back works, but the problem is that if you give them your attention, she'll follow your lead and start paying attention to them. If they're good they'll just keep spouting shit and whatever attraction she felt for you will transfer over to them. Seeing them as under you worked in your favour, if you started g…
/r/seduction17/09/11 03:27 AM
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Always assume that the girl wants to have sex with you.
/r/seduction17/09/11 03:19 AM
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If the girl liked me, I would have gone balls out and completely ignored him, then lead the girl off to another part of the venue after it blew over. I wouldn't even look at him. If she was into me she'll ignore him as well, and so will anyone else watching, they'll just assume he's being a try hard dick. Ignoring is usually the best way to go, if you're on, guys can be yelling at you but in your mind their volume will be turned down to a whisper, it's mind blowing when you see it in action(I've…
/r/seduction17/09/11 03:05 AM
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Yeah, the only way I could imagine her being more explicit is: "PLEASE FUCK ME."
/r/seduction17/09/11 02:45 AM
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This. Seddit is aimed at getting laid from cold approach. Go find the right interest groups or talk to people in your favourite classes. If you want to focus on getting laid, keep approaching girls, go out a few times a week and hit on around 20 girls a night or all the ones you find attractive. It's not the only way to get laid, it requires a ton of approaches and a lot of effort, but it's worth it in the long term if you want to skill set. Cold approach is a bad way to make friends, and a medi…
/r/seduction17/09/11 02:40 AM
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You don't have to smoke to approach these girls, it just means you have to be more direct which works better anyway.
/r/seduction05/09/11 12:21 AM
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Nice. It's just whiskey dick man, shit happens it's not a big deal. Go down on her, or finger her then pass out. You can always wake up in the middle of the night or in the morning and try again.
/r/seduction05/09/11 12:18 AM
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Just do it, and aspire to approach every single girl that you're attracted to. You'll get good by sheer volume. You're going to fail a fuck ton, have fun with it. Say whatever the fuck you want, it really doesn't matter. The important part is how you feel when you're talking. You want to feel confident, happy, and to some degree horny. Let whatever comes to your mind flow out of your mouth, and use your emotions to shape the interaction.
/r/seduction20/08/11 10:12 PM
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I'm not so sure you need great body language to run direct game. I've gone up to a girl and told her how hot I thought she was while feeling extremely nervous. I was scratching the back of my head and my shoulders were a bit slumped but she gave me puppy eyes within a couple minutes. I think it was because I was completely out of my head.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:19 PM
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Agreed on don't ask for the phone number, but I do like telling the girl to give me her phone number. My favourite now is to hand her my phone silently. I also like: "give me your number" and "Here let me grab your number before I forget." The last one is great if she doesn't love you yet, because that arbitrary reason will get her to do it without thinking.
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:50 PM
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I've done a few headphone approaches, the one I remember I was too in my head for it to go anywhere. I think like most anything else, headphones are just an excuse.
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:44 PM
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"Hey I'm Anonymack" Four months in and this is still my favourite opener. Don't listen to the guys saying that headphones make it harder. Everything is a limiting belief. Thinking that an interaction is less likely to go well because you have to ask her to take her headphones off is a self fulfilling prophecy. Whereas if you assume it doesn't matter, you aren't working against yourself. So much of what happens with girls is what you believe should happen. I know that sounds woowoo, it will becom…
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:40 PM
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I've seen him recently. The best way to describe him is intense. He either doesn't talk a lot, or is completely loud and obnoxious. His pupils dilate completely and he seems a little bit insane with certainty. He stands really close with the girl, gazes into her eyes, and is completely relaxed. The dude comes off like a force of nature.
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:16 PM
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Oh dude it's creepy as fuck, but depending on if they like you and how well you pull it off, it will come off as scary or sexy. The ones that like you will fall all over themselves immediately. If she thinks you're a creep then you saved yourself a bunch of time chatting up a girl who wasn't going to sleep with you anyway. Yeah all the fun is in that tension, you lose much of it by testing her receptiveness.
/r/seduction16/08/11 07:07 PM
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More than alpha status, girls are attracted to authenticity. If you''re saying and doing exactly what you feel like, the girl will be attracted to that. You can be nervous as all hell and still get puppy eyes from a girl if you're being totally honest and letting her know you like her. Heh I also say that's a movie, I prefer real life experience over an artist's embelishment.
/r/seduction16/08/11 05:00 PM
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If you've had sex with the girl the first day then yeah, 3 dates in 3 days can work. Otherwise I agree with chumpta, it looks needy. For you to like her that much, she should be heavily invested as well or the relationship is lopsided.
/r/seduction16/08/11 04:12 AM
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Solid advice I don't know where that downvote came from. maybe it's just me but I think there is something to be said about not bringing things like this up. Too much of this kind of stuff has the potential to engage her logically about what's happening. I'd like to add that this type of joking may make her think you'll judge her for putting out too soon, which is the best way to get LMR.
/r/seduction16/08/11 04:09 AM
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I personally go into every approach wanting to have sex with the girl but not allowing myself to become emotionally invested in the outcome. Anything negative she does will have no effect on how I feel. That unreactivity comes from the fact that it's counter productive and thus stupid to be affected by it. It helps to have over a thousand rejections under your belt too.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:55 AM
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Telling girls they're beautiful/cute is not necessarily a bad thing. Not giving SOIs like that was actually a stumbling block of mine until recently. I'd get lots of value but because I wasn't making it obvious I wanted the girl she got bored. Most guys lack the gonads, good looking guys happen to be consistent with the greater sample.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:38 AM
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Go take an RSD hotseat, 60 years of challenge is also solid.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:27 AM
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The reason why this doesn't work with girls is because believing that you have to do something to get them to like you kills their attraction. They want high value dudes, high value dudes don't have to try to get women. They're used to hot girls falling all over them, by thinking that you have to win her over, you subcommuncate that you're not good enough.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:19 AM
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You haven't approached enough hot girls then. Some of them put up a false front for a moment. Sometimes it's real and they don't like you, sometimes it breaks if you remain unreactive.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:13 AM
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Keep in mind that sometimes they'll tell you to fuck off, in which case laugh and walk away.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:11 AM
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I'll be there rubbing her under the table and seeing how well she can act normal. Hahaha I'm stealing this.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:09 AM
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You can make out in public areas if she's not weird about PDA. In general, anything you're comfortable with, she'll be comfortable with as well. Get creative, if you're in a mall I bet there are places in the parking structure you could bone in, you could also duck into supply closets and alleyways. You can use a car, park, or beach too.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:08 AM
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You can make out in public areas if she's not nervous about PDA, if you're going to get heavier than that find a park, alleyway, or car.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:00 AM
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Approach lots of girls, you'll learn to feel confident and unreactive. Don't let her coldness affect you emotionally and keep staring at her silently and expecting her to start talking if you don't want to talk, or just run your mouth if you feel ilke it. If you're confident your frame will win out and she'll become interested in you. Either that or you two don't have chemistry and she'll blow you off when you start escalating. My favourite way to approach these girls is to stand close and stare…
/r/seduction16/08/11 02:53 AM
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Non-reactive does not mean not doing anything or looking unaffected . It means actually not feeling any negative emotional reaction to what someone does, it isn't something you fake. If you think it's rude for her to be on the phone all the time. Tell her to stop and that she's being rude, it's that simple. If you're butthurt about it she'll lose attraction, if you are emotionally unaffected but tell her to stop anyway then she won't.
/r/seduction16/08/11 12:55 AM
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"I'm looking for friendzone before any kind of intimacy" It doesn't work that way, or if it does it's rare. You have to escalate faster, the girl in that example probably stopped talking to you because she thinks you're a pussy.
/r/seduction16/08/11 12:44 AM
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Dude she wants it badly, whenever you feel like it.
/r/seduction16/08/11 12:40 AM
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Thanks for the tip, I guess I'm getting annoyed at saying 'escalate more' so many times but that doesn't excuse being a dick.
/r/seduction16/08/11 12:33 AM
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Thanks, getting over escalating is a lot like getting over stallouts. You realise that whenever you're thinking about doing something that's the perfect time to do it. It's all about stepping out of your own way. Closing is a complete cinch though, all you have to do is lead and remain unreactive.
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:54 PM
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I think of it as not being emotionally affected by outside events. You achieve it by desensitisation and taking responsibility for your own emotions.
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:42 PM
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I recommend you get to the point where you can approach over 20 women in one night consistently. Go out for a couple months for 3+ nights a week(5 preferably) then take a bootcamp. That's what I did, it helps a lot to be able to approach consistently before you take your bootcamp. While you're there the instructors will be able to get you to approach but getting yourself to do it afterwards can be difficult. Plus having a deluge of intermediate questions to ask while on program is a lot more eff…
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:39 PM
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Counter productive? Absolutely not. If you're out, you're making progress, no matter what. The amount of progress you're making is dependant on how much you're approaching and pushing yourself to escalate. The key to approaching solo is to be in one of two states at all times: chilling or flirting. The more you're lurking, the worse off you'll be. When you need a break, find a comfortable place to sit and chill for a bit, do your best to just relax without thinking. When you're not chilling, spe…
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:26 PM
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That's too long and breaking rapport. You shouldn't break rapport after a shit test, that tells her that she was successful in affecting you. She's acting weird, you shouldn't respond to that by giving her a long reply. Plus the invitation is weak, he's already had sex with the girl, he should be telling her to meet up, not asking. Hah yeah I'd think the same, but some people are dicks. EDIT: Heh sorry for ripping it apart man, I'm just telling you what I see. Thanks for the complement.
/r/seduction15/08/11 09:05 PM
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I would text "Hilarious, come over I want to ravage you." but that's just me. It sounds like she's fucking with you. Even if she isn't, you're better off believing she is. EDIT: If she is fucking with you and you take her seriously, she acts like she meant what she said or she gives you a break and tells you she's kidding but you lose attraction. If she isn't fucking with you, the fact that you're unreactive will make her more attracted and give you a better shot at fuck buddy status, or eventua…
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:39 PM
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Go approach tons of other women, I bet you'll feel differently.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:34 PM
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I've done 70 in one night, I wouldn't even say that's pushing it. The best way to get good at pickup is to approach obnoxious amounts of women, and constantly be pushing your comfort zone with escalation. I burn venues and move on a lot. I'll pop in, approach all the hottest girls I like, if nothing sticks then I'll move to the next bar/club. I take it slower when I'm chilling with friends and they want to nurture their beers. Everything is a limiting belief, I approach every girl I'd want to ha…
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:27 PM
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Yeah I can see how that'd be weird. I'd take it as an awesome opportunity though, you get a fulfilling friendship, sex, and you can bone women on the side.
/r/seduction15/08/11 08:14 PM
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Congratulations sir, you've found yourself a fuck buddy, enjoy, if you're looking for a girlfriend look elsewhere.
/r/seduction15/08/11 07:57 PM
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You're escalating WAY too slowly. She was probably DTF that night that you kissed then you stopped escalating, after seeing that she's trying to friend zone you because you didn't try for what you wanted. I'd take her out for drinks, make moves when I feel like it, make it obvious that I want to be in her pants, and take her back to my place for beautiful sexy times. I wasn't there so I can't be sure if she just thinks you're being weak or there are outlying circumstances. The fact that you've g…
/r/seduction15/08/11 07:35 PM
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You moved her to a bar on your first approach? You're a complete baller. I think it took me 20 approaches before I got a decent conversation going, four months later I was hardcore making out with an 8 within a minute of meeting her last night. You've got some awesome experiences ahead if you keep pushing yourself. Your only criteria for success should be to approach, anything that happens after that is irrelevant.
/r/seduction15/08/11 07:28 PM
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You shouldn't get LMR if the girl trusts you, is very turned on, and knows you won't judge her. If you do, esclate, back off when she's uncomfortable, try again, rinse repeat. Use your own judgement with alcohol. Technically having sex with a girl while she's had any alcohol in the US can be considered rape. Make sure the girl is sane and don't have sex with sloppy chicks.
/r/seduction15/08/11 07:24 PM
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Approach like mad, aim for hundreds of rejections per month. At the beginning you should be pushing for 20-40 approaches per night. Go out 4-5 nights a week. Approach every girl you're attracted to. Do it solo if you can't find wings or friends. Do it sober. You will almost certainly get laid within 3 months, you will also be about fearless around women. It will look like you are making no progress at times, keep approaching. Watch this: Jeffy Show 2. I did it, I went from approximate recluse to…
/r/seduction15/08/11 07:06 PM
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Routines are creepy and inefficient.
/r/seduction15/08/11 07:00 PM
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Solid man, she voiced that she was uncomfortable and you didn't pressure her. I wasn't there but that seems like a legitimate issue and not simply LMR. You probably could have gotten her past it by relaxing and escalating when you felt like it, backing off whenever she got uncomfortable, but it seems like a solid attempt. I mean there's not really any more game to be played, you made out with her on your bed, get her over again and escalate. Whenever you think something along the lines of "Shoul…
/r/seduction15/08/11 06:56 PM
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Say whatever you're thinking, what you're saying is irrelevant. You don't have to lie, excuse, or have clever lines. I prefer going out solo in some ways, it removes any excuses pertaining to looking after/talking to your friends while you're out. Girls will interpret the fact that you're out alone differently based on how much they like you. When they think you're cool, they'll assume you're extremely brave. When they think you suck, you're some weirdo who's creeping on girls. In the former cas…
/r/seduction15/08/11 06:44 PM
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I never said "be yourself" isn't something he hasn't seen before, only that it's advice he didn't understand. It doesn't mean act however you have in the past and girls will fall all over you. It means stop trying to impress people and put yourself out there, stop thinking ahead and speak freely. You can still work on yourself and "be yourself".
/r/seduction15/08/11 04:58 AM
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Approach like mad, aim for hundreds of rejections per month. At the beginning you should be pushing for 20-40 approaches per night. Go out 4-5 nights a week. Approach every girl you're attracted to. Do it solo if you can't find wings or friends. Do it sober. You will almost certainly get laid within 3 months, you will also be about fearless around women. If you're in the US, get a fake. It will look like you are making no progress at times, keep approaching. Watch this: Jeffy Show 2. I did it, I…
/r/seduction13/08/11 03:08 AM
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I don't know, I think women give excellent advice on how to seduce women. Some of the best lines I've heard are from a girl. The problem is that their advice is usually cryptic and customised to what would work on that girl specifically. I've given a dude advice in front of a girl before and she'd shyly affirm what I'm saying, they won't tell you to be really direct because they don't want to admit it turns them on. If they're comfortable with you sexually they give awesome advice then cut thems…
/r/seduction13/08/11 02:59 AM
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I tend to think a lot as well, yeah I think it's normal for some. I also really enjoy my alone time. You can be very talkative or very quiet depending on what you feel like doing. I tend to not say much and let the girl do the talking while I stare her down and check her out because I don't like to talk much. How much you talk is pretty much irrelevant, you just need to be communicating in some way that you want to have sex with her.
/r/seduction13/08/11 02:47 AM
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I think as soon as the girl has the desire to ramble about her problems in front of you it's already too late. Escalate more and earlier.
/r/seduction13/08/11 02:24 AM
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You're not making any moves. She starts talking about past boyfriends and her problems because she assumes you're a pussy and decides you're her new friend. My last few pulls were less than 90 minutes long. You can have sex with a girl extremely quickly, you just have to push the escalation to the point where she's a little nervous, intimidated, and excited but not uncomfortable. The fact that you look younger means you'll be less threatening and can get away with more.
/r/seduction13/08/11 02:13 AM
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I usually have the girl come over to my place, maybe have a drink, look at cool shit on the Internet, listen to music, and talk for a short period of time, then have sex until we pass out. Lol@highsexdrive Walk by the beach, fuck under the stars. Go hiking, bone on a peak.
/r/seduction13/08/11 01:51 AM
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What you said didn't matter, how you emotionally reacted to her calling you out did. The fact that it threw you off is where you went wrong. You solve it by experiencing a lot of social pressure and becoming desensitised to it and/or philosophically realising that it's irrelevant. You want to be at the point where someone will say/do something to mess with you, and you feel no emotional reaction to it whatsoever. That's what it means to be unreactive. EDIT: My response would be to look at her qu…
/r/seduction13/08/11 01:15 AM
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Go ahead and ask the questions, but after you ask the first one, say whatever stupid shit comes to mind next, even if it's another question. Stop feeling like a single one of your thoughts is too stupid to voice and you'll start flowing.
/r/seduction13/08/11 01:05 AM
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You could try smiling more, put yourself in a less antagonistic mood and the words that come to mind won't be assholish. I get the same way when I'm feeling pissed, all I want to do is pull people down. Your emotions dictate how the interaction goes more than anything, the words simply express those emotions.
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:51 AM
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Dude, lust is my fuel. I glare at girls and tell them they're hot, that always works better than attempting to hide it. The crush feeling is infatuation though, you get rid of that by approaching a lot and seeing many girls look at you in desire. You also get rid of it by focusing on wanting to have sex with her instead of on how you want to be with her romantically.
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:42 AM
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Yeah it's "alpha"(fuck this term, focus on acting real not like the man), don't do things in order to attempt to impress her. Focus on wanting to have sex with her, and make that painfully obvious when you're with her. The 60 years of challenge ebook is probably my favourite newbie resource now. Beyond all that, go approach hundreds of women a month if you want to be good at this, this is the basis for all improvement.
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:39 AM
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My last three pulls I was having sex with the girl within 90 minutes of meeting her(these are quality girls, I'm trying to illustrate that time is not the critical factor). Too fast is dependant on how turned on the girl is and how well you're riding the edge of what she is comfortable with. You want to push soft enough so that the girl isn't backing away from you emotionally or physically, but hard enough that she's a little nervous, and excited. No's are great because they let you know she nee…
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:22 AM
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Without playing though, you can't see the distinctions between what are good and bad moves. The subtleties only come into focus from hundreds of hours of practice.
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:07 AM
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"if you have sex too early, guys tend to lose interest." Hah, the exact opposite is true for me. If a girl is too prude I'll forget about her quickly. A girl having sex with me quickly will not make me lose attraction for her. If a dude thinks like that it's his Madonna/whore complex not yours. Bad sex or shitty personality will turn me off. Some guys will continue to chase just for sex because they don't have many options and they think that's the only way girls will put out. You can't seduce a…
/r/seduction13/08/11 12:02 AM
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There's no reason you can't work on both at the same time.
/r/seduction12/08/11 11:50 PM
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The way I got the first few out of the way was by using contrasting visualisation. Please do this, it really did make all the difference for me. It took me the same amount of time(maybe closer to 6yrs) to approach regularly, now I'll approach 20 girls a night on average(one night it was 70). Your looks are irrelevant, as you do lots of approaches that'll become more apparent. The key is to approach above all other things, you should be aiming for hundreds of rejections a month. An example, for m…
/r/seduction12/08/11 11:18 PM
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This question is coming from the wrong head space, stop trying to impress the girl and say whatever you like. You're better off realising that whatever you say is perfect because it comes from you. Yeah I know that sounds retarded, it's something you work at over time and it's field tested. This game is played with emotions, not words.
/r/seduction01/08/11 05:16 PM
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I ignore the guy. If I have momentum my subjective experience of his volume approaches zero over time and he becomes irrelevant.
/r/seduction01/08/11 05:08 PM
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I'm with Tofu, approach boatloads of times and figure out what you're doing wrong. Like everything in game, it's all in your head.
/r/seduction01/08/11 05:06 PM
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Casanova Crew, check out the forums of various pickup sites, and google your location plus pickup lair.
/r/seduction01/08/11 03:33 AM
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You sound like you're going to rock fairly quickly if you're already a fairly social dude. Watching the Jeffy Show 2 is a good primer. You should start escalating on the girl immediately: approach and move so you're a couple inches away from her, give solid eye contact, tell her you're into her in some way within the first 30 seconds, hug her within the first 30 seconds. The proper time to push it forward is whenever you feel like it. Keeping her attraction and the conversation flowing is a matt…
/r/seduction01/08/11 03:22 AM
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she didn't make any hint for me to go upstairs You are always the one responsible for making it happen. You'll rarely get blown out for over escalating, and you'll always get blown out for under escalating. if you wanted to you should have lead her inside(use any stupid reason), if she protested, just tell her you really need to go to the bathroom then you'll leave. When you get out of the bathroom make-out. That said, I don't lay really drunk girls for fear of false rape accusations, awkward se…
/r/seduction01/08/11 03:02 AM
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Haha all I do is use intense direct prolonged eye contact. It seems that the more I make it plain that I want the girl, the better she responds.
/r/seduction01/08/11 02:36 AM
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Haha all I do is use intense direct prolonged eye contact. It seems that the more I make it plain that I want the girl, the better she responds.
/r/seduction01/08/11 02:36 AM
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While that stung Nonreactive is pointing more at the idea that you aren't emotionally effected by negative stimulus. The side effect is that you say stuff that disregards or invalidates a shit test but the real test is how you feel. If you feel a sting or any uncertainty when this happens you're doing it wrong, it shouldn't affect you emotionally at all. The way you become unreactive is by getting a ton of blow-outs(best way), getting success, and philosophically realising that there's no point …
/r/seduction31/07/11 10:00 PM
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It's a cliche, the true meaning of the words is hidden. The ideas of congruence and removing the verbal and physical mental filter are analogous. The point is to act exactly how you feel in the moment, it's difficult and scary a lot of the time because you're putting your true self out there and exposing your ego. I've had situations where a girl was extremely attracted to me despite the fact that I was acting very nervous and a little awkward because I wasn't trying to hide anything or think ah…
/r/seduction31/07/11 09:19 PM
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Of course they can't read your mind but how you feel about yourself is communicated to the girl through the way you talk, what you say, how she feels around you, and your body language. You don't have to delusionally think you're awesome, eventually I think it helps though. I personally think I'm much more awesome than all the douche-bag corporate types that are pulling chicks with ease so I see no reason why I shouldn't feel better about myself than they do. Even though I can keep a grasp on my…
/r/seduction31/07/11 08:56 PM
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If you gauge it correctly and back off as soon as the girl seems uncomfortable you won't get into trouble. It takes a high degree of calibration and intense self confidence for the girl to be cool with it.
/r/seduction31/07/11 08:09 PM
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What I'm saying is that girls value looks a lot less than guys do, to the point where if you feel awesome about yourself girls will respond to that much more than what you look like. Girl's perception of a guy's looks will actually fluctuate based on how he's acting. This is one of the trippiest things I've seen, is when you're in the right state of mind girls will start to notice that you're incredibly good looking. On some of my worst looking days I've had a girl tell me I'm intensely handsome…
/r/seduction31/07/11 08:04 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb7vBGk2Vd8&feature=player_embedded
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:45 PM
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My best sets all have one thing in common: I made it was painfully apparent that I intended to have sex with the girl within the first ten seconds. I prefer going extremely direct, you waste less time with girls you won't mesh with and it's a lot more fun.
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:34 PM
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direct openers are a bad idea Bullshit, have you seen Tyler? The dude starts molesting girls and talks in a bedroom voice right off the open.
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:31 PM
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Your looks are irrelevant. Even if it did matter, girls respond directly to how entitled you feel to her, so you're better off assuming it's irrelevant. Go out a lot and get your game dialled. Girl's attraction is based mostly in perceived status and emotions. You won't get gimme pulls at first because the girl won't choose you based on your looks but conversely you get the benefit of knowing when the girl is attracted to your personality instead of just choosing you for your looks.
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:11 PM
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Awesome advice, as usual. Happy birthday bad ass.
/r/seduction31/07/11 07:01 PM
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Wear dark colours and take advantage of the fact that you can get away with murder because you look young and trustworthy. Stare her the fuck down, escalate extremely hard and fast, make extreme SOIs and have fun with it.
/r/seduction31/07/11 06:51 PM
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Make him feel cool and let him no you're into him.
/r/seduction19/07/11 03:50 AM
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Age is irrelevant, my second lay was with a girl seven years older than me. A friend of mine prefers girlfriends who are 10+ years older than him. Approach hundreds of women a month and you won't need to be asking this question.
/r/seduction19/07/11 03:40 AM
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Have good intentions and be friendly.
/r/seduction18/07/11 08:24 PM
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Some people are flaky, or she may have just found something else to do and forgot. There are plenty of reasons why you guys didn't meet up.
/r/seduction18/07/11 02:24 AM
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Er sounds like you're friend zoned, which I guess works out because you just wanted to be friends with her right?
/r/seduction18/07/11 02:00 AM
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Do it more and it'll effect you less, rejections should be funny. I went up to a girl, introduced myself and said the first thing that came to mind "you're shiny", I then got made fun of for the next 30 seconds by the girl and her two friends. Another time I accidentally asked if the girl's bestfriend was her mom and literally got yelled out of the bar. I've been told "Just leave now before you get punched" by a boyfriend. I've had hundreds of girls turn their back on me. I could keep going, wha…
/r/seduction18/07/11 01:55 AM
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Yeah, thinking that you're awesome and that you don't have to do anything to attract the girl is most of what gets you the lay, the rest is mechanical minutia that you learn from going out. The best way to get there is to work on yourself and approach A TON of girls so you become used to social pressure and your subconscious picks up on what girls respond to over time and changes in response to those observations.
/r/seduction18/07/11 12:08 AM
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Just remember to a) test EVERYTHING you read in the seduction community, there's a lot of bullshit and b} remember that the way you get good is by doing vast numbers of approaches. Some material will cut your learning curve down a bit, but the way you get good is by going out, your results and improvement per effort will pan out like this: 95% through going out, and about 5% reading material.
/r/seduction18/07/11 12:03 AM
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Breathe from your diaphragm, push out a lot of air when you talk, talk through people as though you're talking to someone 3-5 steps behind the person you're speaking to. Tonality really helps too, look up breaking/neutral/trying for rapport tonality.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:58 PM
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I didn't read the whole article, but I think the idea is to have the option of being with other girls, not necessarily actively taking advantage of it. Cheating sucks, don't do it.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:28 PM
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I would not give a fuck, then assume she's into me and prove to her I'm not gay by staring her down and escalating.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:04 PM
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The words don't matter. Grab her by the hand and lead her somewhere with full belief that she'll follow you, the full belief part is the key; there should be no doubt in your mind that the girl will come with you. "Wait wait come over her" "I want to show you something" "Let's dance" etc.
/r/seduction17/07/11 10:55 PM
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I lost my virginity with the help of the seduction community, I approached a girl at my freshmen orientation and thanks to RSD's advice I got laid. Since then I've been with three other girls, two of which were cold approaches. I made out with a bunch of girls thanks to the advice as well. I'm confident that if I hadn't learned about the techniques I really would have only been with one girl so far. I've gone from an extremely socially anxious person to having very little social anxiety in the s…
/r/seduction17/07/11 10:44 PM
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Keep looking in her eyes and smile. If you don't feel like you need to do anything to get her interested then she will usually make the conversation herself. If she's shy then you can literally say anything. Don't worry about not keeping good eye contact when girl initiate, that's normal if you're not used to feeling awesome around women. Escalate quickly, hug her within the first 20 seconds or so, you don't need any justification. Go approach tonnes of girls, like hundreds per month, you'll fig…
/r/seduction06/07/11 08:33 PM
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Well done Lebowski. You have two long term choices: Make her your girlfriend or let her go. You could conceivably try to get her to leave him and have an open relationship but if this girl's looking for a relationship she's going to find another dude eventually. You'll probably always have the ability to take her back but you'll have to commit to do it. I'm dealing with a similar situation, I have this girl that I love dearly but it's not fair for me to ruin her relationship without committing t…
/r/seduction06/07/11 08:17 PM
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I mean it will be more difficult you to pull, but I guess you're not looking for that so it isn't much of a problem. If you just want to use this stuff to learn to be more social then yeah power to you!
/r/seduction06/07/11 07:05 PM
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Haha yeah I tried to address that with my 'Obviously...' caveat but I can see how that might need to be extremely explicit for some redditors.
/r/seduction06/07/11 07:00 PM
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The frame is irrelevant. If you don't emotionally react to what he's saying, he'll just look try hard. You could completely ignore, eye-roll, give a non sequitor, say "I do think you're adorable" I could go on, what's said doesn't matter at all, the emotional context is paramount.
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:53 PM
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If you want to recover from it, then just don't be emotionally affected by it. If it doesn't shake you up AT ALL, the girl won't react either because you're the higher status dude and she'll follow your lead. The words aren't what are making it awkward, it's the fact that you're emotionally shaken by them. It doesn't matter what you say, you can even completely ignore your friend. I've seen dudes YELLING at instructors and because they didn't react, the girl just completely ignored her friends a…
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:31 PM
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10ish hours of video, no infield but the material in the hotseat is amazing
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:20 PM
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Obviously too much spontaneity is bad, but for pick-up it's absolutely necessary, what's your issue with his post?
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:18 PM
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Yeah this is really important, learning to step out of your own way when with a girl. This really hit me when I saw the pattern that whenever I was thinking "should I say/do this?" I was blown out almost immediately or that had been the point of no return, in hindsight it was the perfect move and I killed it for myself by hesitating. One thing you missed is that by acting on your first impulse, you're not filtering your words and actions through the idea of what's socially acceptable, thus you'r…
/r/seduction06/07/11 06:05 PM
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It gets a lot more natural over time. When you're approaching girls eye contact is key and really easy to maintain if you just keep the mental note, she should almost always be the one to break eye contact first. When I approach a girl I'm almost always looking directly into her eyes or where her eyes would be if she was looking at me. The times I break are to focus on someone else, on small takeaways(not conscious, when I'm actually just bored with the conversation), and when I have to finish a…
/r/seduction06/07/11 08:09 AM
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Terrible and creepy.
/r/seduction06/07/11 05:30 AM
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Alright, this is the point where I stop defending Seddit for being creepy. This is going to eventually backfire hard.
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:05 PM
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Don't ask girls out, tell them out. "Let's go x, meet me at y at z-time." Be way more assertive when setting up a date and read the links in the sidebar.
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:51 PM
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Stop texting her back, she'll take the hint.
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:47 PM
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Bitchin', do it. Going out three nights a week will yield slow progress and maintenance, four will bring you steady progress, and 5+ will yield pretty fast results. I've been going out 5ish times a week for 3 months and I went from terrified to approach and fairly socially awkward to attracting the vast majority of hot girls in the club in that time frame. Just keep stepping and trust in the process and you'll figure it out.
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:38 PM
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I mean make sure your buddy is okay with it first: Bros before Hos and all. If he is then just take her out, it sounds like she's down.
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:26 PM
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Approach lots of women, try to wrack up hundreds per month. Go do daygame and try to get your hands on a fake for bars and clubs. Parties are good, they're much easier than clubs at first but finding enough girls to approach is difficult sometimes so like daygame it's less efficient for improving quickly.
/r/seduction05/07/11 04:23 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being totally honest about your emotions, that only hurts you when you're needy because you don't feel you have an abundance of options. Yeah it's extremely important for her to crave your touch, but you don't have to touch her less than you want to in order for that to happen.
/r/seduction05/07/11 03:18 AM
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Find a park and bring a towel.
/r/seduction05/07/11 02:34 AM
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no PDA in public (or at least very sparingly) As with anything, it depends on where it's coming from. If there's too much of a lovey dovey vibe to your touching when she isn't feeling it then of course she's going to lose attraction because you're being needy. If however you're doing it from a "you're mine and I do what I want" kind of vibe then alls fair. I particularly like grabbing boobs or ass or forcefully pulling her in for a kiss when I feel like it. Everything else is solid. Although it'…
/r/seduction04/07/11 11:30 PM
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Hot, just saw your username.
/r/seduction04/07/11 11:05 PM
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I must say that I've never had this problem. The solution is simple though, stop yourself whenever you start thinking about the girl and go approach more women.
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:43 PM
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It feels like I have close-to-sex anxiety It's always on. If you start feeling like she might not be into you, stop it, remember that no matter what it's always on.
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:19 PM
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Try it a lot and see what works. Don't do it as a tactic, be fully honest with the girl. Communicate with her in the tone that you're a dude who is going to have sex with her. The way you learn direct game is by getting rejected hundreds of times, learning to be unaffected by bad reactions, and letting your subconscious slowly adapt what you're doing based on what does and doesn't work. Oh, and use breaking rapport tonality basically always.
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:14 PM
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I guess what I'm saying is that you shouldn't have to think about stuff like that in a relationship, it should come naturally. While it's awesome that a guy wants to improve in that way, in a relationship it's more about learning what your girl responds to rather than practising game concepts.
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:09 PM
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Get rejected hundreds of times per month. Re-evaluate whether you want this girl in three months.
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:42 PM
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skanky girls...half the people there gave off a Jersey Shore type vibe. If the girls are hot despite being dumb as rocks, you can still have sex with them if you want. You don't have to have a connection in your life perspective in that case, only sexual chemistry. they're with 3 chicks but the only two attractive ones are already taken Keep in mind, if they're with douche bags you can totally just game the girl without acknowledging the dudes and take them away. I know in this case they might b…
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:36 PM
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You're probably being strung along or set up for a long haul relationship where it'll be a month or two before you hook up, that's a ridiculous amount of talking before boning her. Keep doing what you're doing if you want a relationship, push for the date and escalate mercilessly if you want her now. Approach tonnes more women. You should be aiming for hundreds of rejections a month.
/r/seduction04/07/11 09:11 PM
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What? You had sex with her. Unless you suck at laying pipe-- fuck, even if you do, she let you stick your dick in her of course she likes you. "Text me" means "I want to do this again I think you're cool and I'm worried that you won't get in contact with me." Call her and stop second guessing yourself. "Hey, what time are you free today?" blah "Cool, meet me at x and y-time", hang out wherever you feel like than take her home and do it again if you like. Once you have sex with the girl, the game…
/r/seduction04/07/11 08:50 PM
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without making her think you're attracted to her Stylistic choice, I personally hate indirect game and doubt its efficacy but some guys seem to make it work.
/r/seduction04/07/11 08:39 PM
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I don't approach staff at places where I frequent, you're asking for trouble that way. I mean, go up to her and make idle chat, game is game man. To figure out if she's really into you, as with all girls you have to escalate. In the case of a book store you have to just get the number and schedule a date because the public place and the counter might physically stop you from making moves. In situations where you can isolate the girl, hug and try to kiss her. EDIT: Sorry for starting with preposi…
/r/seduction04/07/11 08:36 PM
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Dude just assume she's into you and go up to her in that situation. You're coming at it from the wrong angle. The idea should be that time is one your side, if you go up to the girl right there she'll be more into you the longer you spend with her. Emotionally acknowledging that a girl is losing attraction for you is never to your advantage. That said, this is definitely oneitis and you should forget this chick, she's using you for validation. I know this because I've been there.
/r/seduction04/07/11 08:23 PM
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Change those thoughts, whenever you get a thought like that realise that it isn't helping you and you can control it. No matter where you are when you start thinking variations of "I suck" stop the thought process and start saying "I'm awesome" in different ways. It will feel fake at first, stop the thoughts that are telling you it's fake and keep repeating the self love. Eventually it becomes habit. Each one of those thoughts is a neural pathway, each time you think one it strengthens that path…
/r/seduction04/07/11 07:45 PM
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As no_dating said, looking for specific things to say to the girl is the wrong head space entirely, because you're trying to impress the girl. Think about how Brad Pitt would act and feel around a girl, do that. You'll figure out quickly that the things you're saying and doing matter much less than the emotions you're feeling. You should feel like a badass no matter what the girl does, you should ALWAYS feel like she's DTF. The way you get to feel like that is by approaching ridiculous amounts o…
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:42 AM
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Work out, meditate for 20 minutes a day, eat and sleep well. Think about getting a fake, I wish I had when I was younger.
/r/seduction04/07/11 10:37 AM
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Touche sir. Luckily PUA works though.
/r/seduction03/07/11 08:58 PM
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Yeah this is awesome for starting out, as I've continued to go out though I realized something about it: it subtly acknowledges the idea that you care whether her impression of you is positive or negative. I think this is a great stepping stone to truly not giving a fuck.
/r/seduction03/07/11 08:46 PM
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I think whatever subconscious gain you might get will be outweighed with "Where did this dude learn how to dress?" That and it'd also be construed as you being insecure about your height even if you aren't. I think you're better served finding arbitrary reasons why having your height is an advantage or considering it absolutely irrelevant. Own it.
/r/seduction03/07/11 08:42 PM
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"Derp, call me." Asking what should I say for a specific instance is the wrong head space, you shouldn't be trying to impress the girl. Be at the cause, not the effect.
/r/seduction03/07/11 01:29 AM
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Get closer together, long distance doesn't work very well because there's no physical component. If you still make her giddy there's no reason to worry about how to make sure she'll stay attracted to you, doing so is counter productive because that will cause her to slowly lose attraction for you, just be you. Don't think about her too much, if you self hypnotise yourself into being desperate for the girl, or wondering if she's into you enough, or butt hurt about her not paying you attention, th…
/r/seduction03/07/11 01:16 AM
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I'm sorry that I'm not answering your question directly, but I've had amazing experiences with RSD.
/r/seduction02/07/11 10:06 AM
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Haha yeah it's a complete head trip when you start seeing it. That has to be my biggest breakthrough so far, realising that it's ALL about the emotions you're projecting and just shamelessly making moves.
/r/seduction02/07/11 09:30 AM
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Kiss her when you want to, if she rejects it, it just means 'not yet', laugh it off and try again in a few minutes. Rinse and repeat until your p is in the v. This girl wants you so bad it's a joke.
/r/seduction02/07/11 01:11 AM
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I hate club music and the atmosphere is fake and materialistic, but they're a great way to hit on a lot of girls over a short time span. I don't do much dance floor game, because I like to talk more, but it's something I want to practice. When you're approaching the girl it's a lot more about your emotions than what you're saying. For example "Do you want to dance?" when said in a commanding tone, and while feeling like a badass will work. The thing is that if you're normal, you're not used to d…
/r/seduction02/07/11 01:01 AM
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wouldn't the stud have better status just because he's better looking? No, because social hierarchy is not dictated by good looks, it's dictated by relative power. The confidence with which someone acts typically mirrors that relative power(or with game, personally perceived relative power) and the girl is consciously and subconsciously reading the signals that show you're a 'high value' person. went on a date/approached you/talked She could have backwards rationalised this, just like if an ugly…
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:14 PM
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However good looks with good game will make any man unstoppable. The thing is, if a ugly dude and a stud were gaming a girl and the ugly dude had slightly better game, he'd be going home with the girl. Girls respond to status, the only time this wouldn't be true is if she had a logical hang-up which won't allow her to hook up with x-type of dude. Sure it might get you early attraction, but that's anaemic, there are no situations where that would get you the lay whereas game wouldn't.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:31 PM
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So while this is fun, I don't think it's practical because you don't need a good response to be unreactive. You only have to keep your emotions from changing negatively because of her response.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:01 AM
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Tuesday: Typhoon in PB, get there by at least 8:20 the line is terribad. Wednesday: In Cahoots in Mission Valley. Th-Sat everything goes off so you can either hop in PB or go downtown. Check out Revolver in downtown if you want to see a sick light show, can pay a $20 cover, and want a huge challenge. The Standard and Saddle Ranch were pretty cool in WH.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:27 AM
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"Die in a vat of acid."
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:22 AM
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Okay, so you basically just dick around. Cool I get it now =D.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:20 AM
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Sorry, wrong reply button.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:15 AM
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**ignore then talk about my day
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:14 AM
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"Does this smell like chloroform to you?"
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:05 AM
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You can literally talk about ANYTHING, what you're saying doesn't even have to be coherent as long as you're enjoying yourself. How you say it and your emotional disposition and attitude toward the girl is what actually matters. Use your tone in a way that conveys you're here to have sex with her(man to woman vibe), escalate early and often(hug her within 30 seconds), move her around the venue a couple times, then baby step the pull. Feel like the buyer, no the seller in the interaction. No matt…
/r/seduction01/07/11 12:40 AM
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Looks mean almost nothing in this. I consider myself extremely good looking though. The thing is, I'd been terrible with girls up until the point where I started going out regularly, my looks did not help me. http://www.rsdnation.com/jlaix/blog/good-looks-monologue . I've seen videos of Tyler Durden when he was extremely fat, and there were insanely hot girls all over him. Looks are mostly irrelevant.
/r/seduction01/07/11 12:24 AM
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There's no real specifics, he's not asking a targeted question. He's better off reading the sidebar or picking up some PU product to get a basic orientation. On top of that OP probably thinks that he can just take some advice from here and all of a sudden be able to bed this girl, instead of the reality of having to go up to tonnes of girls in order to learn the ability to use the advice. Thus: Approach lots of women.
/r/seduction30/06/11 11:18 PM
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Yeah, hundreds. I approached over 700 women in the past three months, around 1100 in my lifetime, but I'm also a little hardcore about getting this stuff down. I went from barely being able to maintain a conversation with one of my best friends and being TERRIFIED of approaching a girl, to having very little social anxiety, having extremely solid interactions with hot girls on average, and getting my first club pull a few nights ago. It happened over the course of three months. It's as if a cage…
/r/seduction30/06/11 11:12 PM
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The way I did it was by using contrasting visualisation. I would visualise all the cool stuff that could happen if I approached, and then immediately afterward the total and epic fail that my dating life would be if I didn't. This exercise is what got me the courage to do my first 5 approaches one night. Then it's just a process of progressive desensitisation as you wrack up hundreds of rejections as fast as humanly possible. There are tons of girls out there, make the approaches and implement w…
/r/seduction30/06/11 10:56 PM
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Approach lots of women.
/r/seduction30/06/11 10:39 PM
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Wow, more upvotes for this man. Great advice!
/r/seduction30/06/11 10:29 PM
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Solid, the remote's mine though.
/r/seduction30/06/11 10:22 PM
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Isn't that the very objective of practice? To practice what you are not skilled enough at? If you do night game it will carry over heavily to daygame. If the reason you aren't doing nightgame is that you don't think you're likely to meet the right girl there, then you're right, but if you objective is to get better with all women you really should bite the bullet.
/r/seduction30/06/11 10:17 PM
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I've done both, daygame is ridiculously easier for me because I have an easier time being chill and laid back. A lot of the initial attraction is handled because you had the balls to approach so you don't have to worry about escalating quickly. Honestly, I like talking about deep topics so I prefer sober and intelligent girls. I don't like talking to sloppy chicks, I don't pull drunk chicks, I'm not about to risk a false rape accusation. Plus I can see drunk sex being terrible if you barely know…
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:43 PM
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Approach more girls.
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:29 PM
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Just the fact that you're focusing on this one girl that you HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO is wrong. It's a good starting point and most guys who haven't done much in this think like this so don't sweat it. More than any advice I could possibly give you, you need to approach more women. Approach over one hundred women then come back and ask questions like this. Do it in two weeks max.
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:22 PM
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If you came home angrier you did it wrong. The idea is to NOT be emotionally effected by a bad interaction AT ALL. It's nearly impossible not to have a fun night doing that.
/r/seduction30/06/11 12:18 PM
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It literally doesn't matter at all what you say, only how you say it. I bet if you said it in the right tone of voice, you could enumerate all the registers in a CPU and what they do, and still get the girl hot. Fuck it I'm trying that.
/r/seduction30/06/11 12:16 PM
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Really? Have you or someone you've known gotten really good by exclusively daygaming? The reason why I say that daygame is more of a bonus round is because it's not anywhere near as time effective as there aren't enough girls concentrated in one place. It's not strange to hit up three times as many girls during the night as day over the same amount of time. I'm sure you could do it but it's a MUCH greater time commitment.
/r/seduction30/06/11 12:08 PM
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I notice that you said that both of your kcloses were initiated by the girl. How much are you escalating? Are you just going for the kiss and kino or are you waiting for signals? Based on that story you should be doing a LOT better, if you lived near my area I'd jump at the chance to see if I could figure it out.
/r/seduction30/06/11 12:02 PM
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Make approaches, when you get blown out(I don't care how good you are, you're going to get blown out when in a work mindset) immediately go up to the next girl, and so on. Make really good eye contact. If you do these to things I promise you that you'll be in party mode in 20 minutes max. I got this straight from Tyler Durden and it works.
/r/seduction30/06/11 04:53 AM
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You don't have much of a choice if you want to get good.
/r/seduction30/06/11 04:48 AM
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Day game is much easier, but it's too time consuming to find your next girl to make real progress, I think of it as a bonus round. I don't drink when going out, I have a two drink max just in case I really want to try something or someone wants to buy me something. I generally prefer not drinking because that way I'm less tired towards to end of the night, plus it's nice to know I won't get alcohol dependant in the long run.
/r/seduction30/06/11 04:42 AM
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Have you actually gone up to over 1000 sets? I have, and I've improved a LOT. You either didn't put in as much time as you said, didn't push your comfort zone, or there's some other psychological problem you need to fix.
/r/seduction30/06/11 04:40 AM
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Exactly, read Women by Charles Bukowski and Pimp by iceberg slim to get an even better idea of that mindset.
/r/seduction29/06/11 02:07 AM
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No, like you should always be assuming she's way into you. I'm totally in agreeance about the selection bias sucking though.
/r/seduction28/06/11 08:35 PM
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Meet up at your/her place instead.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:24 PM
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All you have to do is stop thinking about the girl and start remembering that she really isn't that special. Don't allow yourself to think about a girl regularly before you have sex with them, even then you should tone it back enough so that you're not overly emphasising your feelings for them in relation to how much you've actually experienced them. There's a fine line to toe, later on when you have real abundance you don't have to worry about it, but when you don't have many options you automa…
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:12 PM
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Yeah you can, it's difficult though and takes a little mental stamina. You just stop yourself whenever you start thinking about a girl. Especially having mock conversations with them, that shit will kill your ability to pull.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:06 PM
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Approach more women. There's always thousands more to meet.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:04 PM
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Ah, I see now. Thanks for the FR :).
/r/seduction28/06/11 03:13 PM
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Body language is everything but you can't fake it. It's irrelevant to think about your own body language because if you're in the right headspace you'll have the right subcomms anyway.
/r/seduction28/06/11 06:59 AM
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If you're doing it to impress or get peoples' approval, you've traversed into comedian mode. Listen to Frogma.
/r/seduction28/06/11 06:46 AM
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deathknell Not always, both of my SNL pulls I said we're going to my place. The first one she was telling me she was going to fuck me anyway so it wasn't a problem. The second girl tried fronting by saying she was a conservative type of girl who like to go on dinner dates first. I just laughed and stayed icy and she caved. Did I make it harder for myself and almost miss the pull? Probably, but it worked out. Heh I have to learn to baby step better. I haven't used this but when she says where are…
/r/seduction28/06/11 06:32 AM
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If she's into you, you can just grab her hand and lead her somewhere else. Actually even if she's not into you, you can do it on a random girl that you've never talked to if you're feeling good. Say "Hey let's go over to <such and such>" You aren't asking her to go with you though. You should be just taking her hand and leading her and feeling like there's no reason why she would possibly say no. You will fuck this up before you get it right. With the first I would have walked up, said whatever,…
/r/seduction28/06/11 06:14 AM
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Both of the girls I've pulled home did that, most girls do. LMR is when you're in bed about to have sex and she starts pretending she's not down. Just stay unreactive: "I'm not supposed to do this we're both seeing other people" "Yeah, we totally shouldn't be doing this" then keep doing whatever you're doing. "I don't know about this" **ignore "I don't usually do this" "Me neither" Don't let it emotionally phase you and agree with it or ignore it. Don't just not let it show, actually do not give…
/r/seduction28/06/11 06:07 AM
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You're state dependant, you don't have to be in state to bed a girl from a date. Escalate and lead her home. She already wants the d.
/r/seduction28/06/11 06:00 AM
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What I'm thinking is that it's completely irrelevant because if you're micromanaging your movements at that level you're trying WAY too hard and thus fucking up. Approach more.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:57 AM
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'I have my doubts" What? It's always on dude. You said heavy kino? Pull! It's really not as hard as you think, lead her home, makeout, and whip your dick out. Push for the threesome too if you want =D.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:53 AM
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What's with all the manipulation and slight of hand? Just playfully flirting with HB6 does not disqualify you from overtly going after HB9 if that's what you want. Yes, that was a terrible idea by not showing interest and getting HB9's number when people were trying to throw you together. Approach more.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:45 AM
1

All of the above? Dude this is irrelevant minutia. Approach.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:41 AM
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Ding, just approach.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:40 AM
1

So uh FUCK sayings: Go approach. Do it a lot. Try to approach over 80 women a week. Yes, I'm fucking serious. Do it sober. You are scared of a girl, really? Seriously examine that head space for a second. Does it make any practical sense whatsoever? Granted, you're going to look like a complete fool at times. But guess what, most of the people who witness your epic fails will forget about you immediately. All of their opinions are meaningless in terms of your long term happiness and success. Yes…
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:32 AM
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Setup a date and get her number. "Let's go get coffee tomorrow/later tonight." Done. Once at the coffee shop or whatever, find a reason to take her home then have sexy-times. Approach more.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:22 AM
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Dude, that's a hardcore relationship and psychological issue. There's no way I can tell you what you should have done from this vantage point because whatever problems you two had were probably varied and deep. I thought you were referring to a young relationship.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:19 AM
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Start making a habit of telling yourself you're awesome for whatever reason you can find. Also, go approach more. No, seriously, get the fuck out there now and approach.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:16 AM
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Honestly, he's probably just not approaching enough. Everyone's giving really detailed advice when I'm sure he'd sort it out if he just started hitting up chicks. You can't read information about the game for three years without hearing 'get out of your head' a million times. It's fantastic advice, but only for someone who is consistently getting blown out.
/r/seduction28/06/11 05:08 AM
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Good stuff. Careful with the analogy though, as soon as you're trying to sell yourself or impress the girl. You usually lose her.
/r/seduction28/06/11 04:41 AM
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Been there, it sucks. Luckily for you you're 21 so you can do something about it. Take that motivation and go out 4+ nights a week and attempt to make 20 something approaches a night. You're going to SUCK in the beginning, seriously expect to look like a total toolbag quite a lot. It's so worth it in the long run though. Learn to laugh at the blow-outs and learn the immense amount of value they bring you in indifference to social pressure. Do it sober, if you can't find a wing: do it alone; I ha…
/r/seduction28/06/11 04:36 AM
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Be nice to her. Tell her she's beautiful, tell her what you like/love about her. Spend time with her.
/r/seduction28/06/11 01:19 AM
1

Haha that's a quality problem though. I've never seen that, but I figure if you validate the girl enough you could reassure her that she deserves you.
/r/seduction28/06/11 01:08 AM
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Keep going until she leaves or seriously tells you to fuck off. I've had a good few conversations turn around by just staying persistent. You need to get in front of her and have her make eye contact with you though, that always seems to be crucial.
/r/seduction26/06/11 08:07 PM
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No, always try to pull. If the logistics suck bad enough(ex. you are with two girls and you can't find a buddy to occupy the second) then go ahead and get the number and peace out when you feel like it. The longer you're with a girl though, the more likely she is to remember you and want to meet up later.
/r/seduction26/06/11 08:02 PM
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Yellow light: when a girl rejects an advance it means 'not yet'. Laugh it off then keep talking as if nothing happened, then try again in like 30 sec to a minute.
/r/seduction26/06/11 03:25 AM
2

Cool, that's where it's at, having fun and being social. Dude sexing a woman is the last thing that's going to turn them off. Every woman wants a player, it's a status and validation thing. Women cock block a normal guy, and fight for a cool one.
/r/seduction26/06/11 03:07 AM
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Dude, how is that not the most attractive wound to a woman ever? Yeah, warm approaches are bomb. Good call on staying with the girls, normally I gracefully roll off as soon as I learn that the girls aren't available.
/r/seduction26/06/11 02:42 AM
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Be normal and chill. If she's sitting/laying in the sand, sit next to her within the first 20 seconds. Don't be afraid of groups. Day game is significantly easier than night because you display massive balls by just approaching, so you only really have to make sure she's comfortable around you. You're going to feel like you really don't want to approach in the beginning, so find any girl, no matter how cute and go talk to her to break your anxiety. Just get it over with. Otherwise you're bound t…
/r/seduction26/06/11 02:30 AM
1

I'd setup another date for the fuck of it, but have a backup plan so your night doesn't suck. Always confirm like an hour before by text with a new girl.
/r/seduction26/06/11 02:20 AM
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I'm a fan of frogma's: http://www.reddit.com/user/frogma He always gives well written responses and solid advice.
/r/seduction26/06/11 02:11 AM
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In all seriousness though, why would you want this? I can understand wanting a girl that knows who she is and knows what she wants out of life, but the idea of having power struggles in a relationship doesn't sound fun or healthy to me.
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:23 AM
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Find girls that you think are chill and hang out with them like you do with guy friends. There are girl gamers out there.
/r/seduction26/06/11 12:21 AM
0

Stop micromanaging. Stop giving a fuck. Just say whatever you feel like to amuse yourself.
/r/seduction25/06/11 11:29 PM
1

Nice! Keep it up, do it A LOT and you'll improve quickly.
/r/seduction25/06/11 10:19 PM
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Maybe you're gay. It's not a coincidence that more assertive women have more manly characteristics.
/r/seduction25/06/11 10:15 PM
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AA will never go away. I've done over 1000 approaches in the past three months and I still have AA. The difference between you and me is that I have the habit of going in anyway. And after all those approaches I couldn't give a fuck if I'm rejected. Cultivate that habit one manly step and blowout at a time. The way I initially overpowered my AA is by imagining all the cool stuff that could happen if I approached, then imagining the absolute failure and loneliness I would experience for the rest …
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:47 PM
1

This is solid. That's exactly how you feel when you're on, and exactly how I've felt every time I've closed.
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:45 PM
1

Erm. Ask her out and if she declines then stop waisting time on her? Go out and approach more girls.
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:26 PM
1

You don't have to drink when you're out. Most of the time I don't. When i do I have a two drink max. If you want to get better at cold approach you have to do it A LOT. Like 10+ approaches per night(aim for 40 at first) 3+ nights per week. 3 is slow progress, 4 in nominal, 5 is fast. You'll find girls who don't drink much out at bars, and you'll be better at approaching girls in other settings. Yeah girls will definitely change for you if they love you enough but it's a slow process and much hea…
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:20 PM
2

You basically just need to tell yourself you're a boss anyway. Confidence can be manufactured by thinking highly of yourself and challenging your comfort zone.
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:14 PM
1

My favorite products are Blueprint Decoded and Flawless Natural. Ozzie's Physical Game book is really good if you're looking for a read though.
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:11 PM
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Don't be needy or clingy and escalate, learn about yellow light.
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:09 PM
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Escalate dude. If she's not down then laugh it off and enjoy a good friendship, things can get really complex after sex. Go out with her and have her wing you if it doesn't work out.
/r/seduction25/06/11 09:08 PM
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It's a status thing and primal. If you're a high status male in an ecosystem are you going to have a problem finding prospective mates? No, not a fucking chance. That's the essence of abundance. That's the crux of success with women, either being high status or exhibiting the characteristics of it.
/r/seduction25/06/11 04:04 AM
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Wow awesome, it sounds like you're totally on your way. Completely agreed on Bonobo and Minotaur, those guys are an absolute inspiration. In order to improve at a decent pace; Owen told me that 4 nights a week should be the minimum, 3 nights is slow improvement or maintenance, something to keep in mind. Next time you're in SoCal hit me up!
/r/seduction24/06/11 07:42 PM
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Go first. Feel the sexual vibe yourself then just keep talking to her. She'll start to feel horny quickly because of rapport dynamics(law of state transfer as RSD refers to it).
/r/seduction24/06/11 07:34 PM
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How many lays have you had from CA? What's your lay rate now? How long have you been approaching regularly? How many approaches do you do a night/how many nights a week? What kind of material do you follow?
/r/seduction24/06/11 06:50 PM
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"Do you have a magnifying glass?" Don't qualify yourself.
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:22 PM
1

Stop getting down on yourself, you need to be on your own team. There are billions of women out there man, up to hundreds of thousands who I would bet pass as your 'soulmate'. Look at it as a learning experience, that pain will allow you to become more emotionally centered in the future. Be complete without the girls first. ...Also it may or may not help to learn how to lay pipe better.
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:09 PM
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Stop getting down on yourself, you need to be on your own team. There are billions of women out there man, up to hundreds of thousands who I would bet pass as your 'soulmate'. Look at it as a learning experience, that pain will allow you to become more emotionally centered in the future. Be complete without the girls first. ...Also it may or may not help to learn how to lay pipe better.
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:09 PM
1

Stop getting down on yourself, you need to be on your own team. There are billions of women out there man, up to hundreds of thousands who I would bet pass as your 'soulmate'. Look at it as a learning experience, that pain will allow you to become more emotionally centered in the future. Be complete without the girls first. ...Also it may or may not help to learn how to lay pipe better.
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:09 PM
1

Stop getting down on yourself, you need to be on your own team. There are billions of women out there man, up to hundreds of thousands who I would bet pass as your 'soulmate'. Look at it as a learning experience, that pain will allow you to become more emotionally centered in the future. Be complete without the girls first. Also it may or may not help to learn how to lay pipe better.
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:08 PM
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I know a lot of guys do it, but I find it creepy and unproductive. It's not going to give you an edge anyway because attraction has everything to do with how you carry yourself and very little to do with commonality. If you just want to bone, you don't need commonality. If you want a relationship, knowing what she's into beforehand won't help because you'll already be a good match if it's going to work, and by researching her you're already putting her on a pedestal by thinking that you have to …
/r/seduction23/06/11 10:01 PM
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Consider that first part stolen. In exchange, my line for when a girl uses her teeth: in loud german accent AAAAAAAHHH DAS TOOOOFEN.
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:51 PM
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This is flipped on its head in person though. In person you shouldn't be censoring yourself and when doubting whether or not to escalate, the answer is almost always escalate. For texts you should ask yourself: is answering this going to help or hurt my chances of having sex with this girl?
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:45 PM
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Don't see her too often and when you start thinking about her cut off the thought and think of something else. If she's not into it, then stop convincing yourself that you're falling for her. Have sex with more girls, it might just be that you don't have many options and you're naturally putting more emphasis on this one chick.
/r/seduction23/06/11 09:43 PM
2

Realize that others' opinion of you largely makes no difference in the long run.
/r/seduction23/06/11 08:57 AM
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Introduce yourself, that's my favorite opener. You don't really need routines. Just free associate: think of a word and make a sentence with it, once that sentence ends use a word from the new sentence to make your next sentence. Staying on a topic for multiple sentences is good for getting to know the person and conversational depth. Changing to topic every sentence usually leads to a lot of jokes and emotional spikes because you're all over the place, which is great at the beginning of the con…
/r/seduction23/06/11 03:51 AM
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I go solo a lot, I had to starting out because my friends aren't big party animals. The key is to always be talking to someone. If you need a break, go back to a group that you made friends with, or you can go chill by yourself if you're already warmed up and are feeling like you DGAF(if you see a dude lounging by himself in a bar, totally relaxed and smiling does "creep" go through your mind?). When people realize that you're alone two things will happen: if they like you, they'll find it incre…
/r/seduction23/06/11 03:41 AM
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Grab her number 2-3 minutes in. Move her, escalate more, move her again, escalate and screen and persist for logistics. Then baby step the pull or roll off and find another girl if logistics are bad. On pulling: http://www.julienlife.com/establishing-logistics-switching-to-actually-pulling
/r/seduction19/06/11 07:17 PM
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This. What you say doesn't matter in this case. You can't react though. Thinking "Oh, she thinks I'm a player I've got to change her mind so she'll still be into it" is wrong, "Fuck it" is right. I had this shit test on bootcamp, my answer? "I'm a total player" **change subject.
/r/seduction18/06/11 07:42 PM
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There are lair boards in your area, check them out. Try attraction forums, RSD, and casanova crew for finding wings as well. You'll find when you make an effort to find wings in your area, you'll soon meet an overwhelming number of dudes who go out regularly and approach a lot.
/r/seduction18/06/11 07:29 PM
1

Talk issues out as soon as they pop up, waste no time wallowing and avoiding the problem. This will save you and your women a lot of pain, and make for much healthier relationships.
/r/seduction18/06/11 07:25 PM
1

Nice, that's a great way to handle this.
/r/seduction17/06/11 08:16 PM
0

If you're having to game in a relationship something is wrong.
/r/seduction17/06/11 08:14 PM
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Have sex with her, don't give her the idea at any point that you want a relationship, after sex tell her that you want things to stay casual. If you feel things getting too heavy then don't see each other as often.
/r/seduction17/06/11 08:08 PM
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Owen told me to expect slow improvement when going out 3 nights a week, maintenance with 2 nights a week, steady improvement with 4 nights a week, and fast improvement with 5 nights a week. You sound really angry(although I would be to if I did this for a full year and saw no results) maybe you're not enjoying yourself regardless of the girl's reaction. The thing is, as soon as you're trying with the girl you'll lose her. Beat girls will be more forgiving but the attractive ones will leave at th…
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:44 PM
1

Long glances, makeout at stop signs, grab a boob if you like. Have her give you road head. I like to scratch her lightly behind the head. Play with her thighs, tickle her.
/r/seduction16/06/11 06:36 PM
1

With relationships, you kinda have to read minds. Eventually you will always come to crossroads where the choice is to compromise and resolve on an issue or break up. You should know most of what is going on in her inner world, it should interest you greatly. There are some things she'll only want to share with you over time as she learns to trust you more, but as long as you push to know her it's hard not to realize when she's down about something. If she won't tell you what that something is, …
/r/seduction16/06/11 03:35 PM
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This.
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:35 PM
1

Cool, sounds like you have the right idea. Around five times now.
/r/seduction15/06/11 06:17 PM
2

Erm, tell her that it's not and keep talking. This is totally irrelevant. The context of the conversation is virtually meaningless man, it's about the sub-communication.
/r/seduction15/06/11 01:57 AM
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Sometime before you have sex, tell her you have the virus and make sure she's been vaccinated. If you're worried about wasting time on a girl, tell her somewhat early on, like on a day two or after you've pulled her home from the club. If she hasn't you guys can mess around without sex until she does. How is this complicated?
/r/seduction15/06/11 01:40 AM
1

Maintain eye contact, say whatever comes to mind, don't filter your words.
/r/seduction15/06/11 01:36 AM
2

What? Dude just be real with her, if you want to stare at her boobs, do it. You're not going to get anywhere pretending not to be into a girl, that's how you find the friend zone. When I hug a girl, if I'm enjoying her breasts I'll often say "oooh, boobies" because that's exactly what I'm thinking, I haven't gotten a bad reaction from that yet. The only time being honest is going to lose you the girl, is if the two of you aren't a good match anyway, or if she tests you immediately afterward and …
/r/seduction15/06/11 01:27 AM
1

You have a working penis, that's literally all you need. Everything is limiting belief. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6g3XEtsoo&feature=player_embedded EDIT: hah howdoiupvote beat me to it.
/r/seduction15/06/11 12:42 AM
1

If you fuck it up? Yeah, you are the creepiest man alive. If you do it correctly though, you're a total stud. You'll never know until you try it, and if you creep a girl out you can always offer a heartfelt apology for being a complete dick then leave. Don't do this unless you feel good about it. I've not done this at festivals but according to what I've seen Owen of RSD do, day and night game aren't very different. I've only done it in bars thus far. Whenever I pull it off, I just say follow me…
/r/seduction15/06/11 12:25 AM
1

Yeah sometimes he'll get up in your face but a) he'll make his presence known right off the bat and you'll know not to go too aggressive, the only time this doesn't happen is when you're in state and your high intensity turns the dude into a spectator immediately, b) he's not going to throw any punches unless you start talking shit to him c) if he does make his presence known, introduce yourself to him then keep talking to the girl. If he's really with the girl you might not get anywhere but you…
/r/seduction15/06/11 12:16 AM
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More details but yeah it sounds like you're not aggressive enough. Take your clothes off first, take your dick out and put her hand on it. If you're feeling ballsy take your dick out and place it on her lips. The major thing to think about with sex is: Go First. You should be the first to make any moves most of the time. If she says you're not going to have sex tonight, agree with her without really caring about it then keep going. If she says "we really shouldn't be doing this" agree and keep g…
/r/seduction15/06/11 12:10 AM
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If they're in a group, stop the front person. If it's a bad place to talk, grab her hand/wrist/arm and move her to a better spot. Most of the time it isn't the boyfriend, when it is, fuck it, acknowledge him then keep talking to her anyway. You're more awesome than him anyway, I mean, what if that was the girl of your dreams? I'd be more than willing to steal her from him. Everything's a limiting belief, well everything within the laws of physics anyway.
/r/seduction06/06/11 08:04 AM
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Nice, yeah you can totally ignore the dudes. If they say they're with the girl in some way(bf, husband) back off a little, be friendly with the dude for a few seconds, and then keep talking to the girl. If she's really with him, then you probably won't get anywhere and they'll have awesome sex later since she'll be hornier and her value will be raised. If they're not together, eventually the dude will start qualifying himself, like that club promoter with Owen, and from there it's over and you c…
/r/seduction30/05/11 08:50 PM
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There's a subtle difference between his tone and sarcasm. He's honestly telling the girl he's nervous, but he doesn't care what happens and he's coming from the buyer's frame so it kind of sounds sarcastic. It isn't about saying he's nervous to make up for it or to excuse his boldness, he's just being totally honest and up front with the girl instead of trying to cover up what he's feeling and thinking. When he grabs her it's by the arm, wrist, or hand and he's just assuming she's okay with it, …
/r/seduction30/05/11 05:55 AM
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I was there as well, tons of information imparted. The biggest thing I pulled away from it was that idea of 'icyness' or unreactivity. Each and every of the videos shows that state of mind to varying degrees. I was on the bootcamp and experienced the state the night before and it's freaking extreme. At moments your body seems to move on its own accord, pulling just the right move. You can say ridiculously obnoxious stuff at full volume in the middle of a restaurant and the girl will stand there …
/r/seduction30/05/11 05:06 AM
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Flirt with him, maybe he feels similar but just doesn't want to strain the friendship. After flirting, if you're relatively certain he knows you're into him and he isn't making a move, then forget about it and continue to work on yourself. Maybe he'll eventually reconsider but don't wait for him, there are over 7 billion people on this planet so don't get too discouraged either way.
/r/seduction24/05/11 03:42 AM
1

Haha, thank you kindly. I have been once, but that was for informing a friend of his fifth amendment rights while he was being interrogated by an officer.
/r/seduction24/05/11 01:44 AM
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Yeah when I say healthy I mean mentally healthy, without significant psychological issues. All I meant by it with concern to unhealthy girls is that their behaviour is more erratic so you can't really comment on it without expertise. Your average girl will usually put up some sort of half-assed resistance so that she doesn't feel like a slut, it's also kind of a game they play in order to be sure that you're assertive. When you stay persistent it turns them on because you're aggressive and you'r…
/r/seduction23/05/11 09:10 PM
1

This. I'm getting downvoted to hell because a lot of these guys haven't experienced this first hand. It really is a mind fuck.
/r/seduction23/05/11 07:18 PM
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If it creeps you out, I doubt it's working. It's not a tactic, they're just pussies.
/r/seduction23/05/11 02:11 AM
1

Haha, yeah it's all pretty spur of the moment. These all had good reactions when I used them.
/r/seduction23/05/11 02:07 AM
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Heh, YMMV it's highly situational.
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:57 AM
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Continue staring while saying: "Shhhh, we're having a moment" or "Mm hmm" or "Boobies!" or *grab them or "yum" or *continue conversation without looking up. All field tested.
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:11 AM
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I like the original post, it's a touchy subject because most healthy women put up token resistance, but some guys can't read social queues.
/r/seduction23/05/11 12:39 AM
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I personally find it hilarious.
/r/seduction23/05/11 12:37 AM
2

This sucks, people keep downvoting you for this but that's the ONLY way you get good. If your social anxiety is bad enough that you can't approach people without having a breakdown then I can understand and you need to seek a doctor. On the other hand, there are plenty of guys here who can get by socially but they're just terrified to approach. I was like that for awhile and that's why it's so frustrating when I see guys refusing the idea that if they just go out, they will see leaps and bounds …
/r/seduction22/05/11 07:44 PM
1

Had sex with a 27 year old when I was 19, I like to think it was awesome.
/r/seduction22/05/11 07:32 PM
1

They don't, most people(hot or otherwise) are losers though so you're probably suffering from a focusing illusion.
/r/seduction22/05/11 07:22 PM
1

Pick up material is worthless without going out regularly.
/r/seduction22/05/11 07:12 PM
1

The only ways to get over social anxiety are exposure, talk therapy, and medication. Self help books are an okay substitute for talk therapy but it should be supplemented with socialising. Pick up theory is a terrible substitute for talk therapy. If you aren't doing any of those three, you aren't going to progress.
/r/seduction22/05/11 06:54 PM
2

How much did you actually go out over the past two years?
/r/seduction22/05/11 10:30 AM
1

Make a move man, if she denies you it's okay, just brush it off and the both of you can pretend it never happened. Next time you're with her try to be more touchy: high fives, butt bump while walking, hugs, spins, whatever. Then try to get her alone and kiss her. Don't wait until the right time, just do it when you feel like it. Yeah if you wait too long you'll definitely be friendzoned. Every girl's different so there's no max, but the longer you wait the worse your chances.
/r/seduction22/05/11 10:29 AM
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Pick one source, your focus should be 20% on material and 80% going out. Once you can start testing material out you can choose what works for you, but talking to people is much more important than the theory.
/r/seduction22/05/11 10:21 AM
5

You curb stomped some dude for slapping your helmet? You need some serious mental help and should be doing years for that shit.
/r/seduction21/05/11 09:08 PM
1

Not enough information, he might not be that interested or he might just be busy. Don't come off as too needy and wait I guess.
/r/seduction21/05/11 05:56 PM
1

Just make moves, it doesn't matter what moves, just make them. Learn the idea of yellow light.
/r/seduction21/05/11 05:46 PM
1

To be totally honest, the author of this song sounds like a bitch.
/r/seduction21/05/11 11:16 AM
1

In the US it's impolite to arrive early to a party. Get there a few to 15 minutes late.
/r/seduction21/05/11 02:12 AM
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Talk about something else? A female friend of mine would do this just to annoy me because she knew I couldn't give two fucks about shoes. She was really just tired of me being silent, or getting back at me for making fun of her, she wanted me to take control of the conversation.
/r/seduction21/05/11 02:03 AM
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Sometimes I don't text my friends back for days when I'm working on something intently. They understand it's not because I'm a dick, I just have periods where I like to be left alone. She's probably just up to something.
/r/seduction18/05/11 03:24 AM
2

Being physical makes her attracted. If you just relax the girl will be okay with it, when she isn't okay with an advance and you don't make a big deal about it neither will she.
/r/seduction17/05/11 04:30 PM
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I would assume the same as any other girl. Keep going until she denies you. Laugh it off, then try it again in a little bit. Shy girls are total freaks in bed in my experience, they're really sexually repressed so if you can get her to let loose she'll go nuts. She'll pretend not to want you to make moves, secretly she craves it.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:21 AM
2

Hah it took me years, but I was doing it wrong. Go out, approach close to 40 girls a week and you should forget about her in at most 2 months.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:19 AM
1

Gold.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:16 AM
2

Escalate early and often "make the ho say no". If LMR, "But I just want to cuddle", yeah, even when you're about to stick your dick in her. That line cracks me up. You really don't need tips, she's inviting you over. It's a done deal.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:11 AM
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First off work out, get good sleep, and eat well. That might remedy the problem outright, leaving you less anxious in general. Also let the girl know you're anxious. If she's cool, she'll help calm you down, and give you a relaxing blow-job or whatever may help. If you're still having problems after that, see a doctor, it could be a symptom.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:07 AM
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Hahaha truth here. Thanks for the post dawg1, I agree, it's a great atmosphere. This is what happens when you select from a fantastic community to begin with. Good luck on your journey.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:03 AM
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I don't mean to shoot you down man, I'm just telling it straight as I used to be there too. Go meet some more girls, you should be approaching at least 40 per week at this stage so this shouldn't even phase you. Happy Birthday too!
/r/seduction17/05/11 05:55 AM
2

Get physical as soon as possible, keep escalating until she rejects an advance, laugh it off and don't let it phase you, then do it again in a few minutes.
/r/seduction17/05/11 03:41 AM
1

On average, are Japanese girls more conservative in bed than English girls?
/r/seduction17/05/11 03:35 AM
1

Uh, peacocking makes you look a little nuts at worst and is simply a conversation starter at best. You're wasting time thinking about it. Don't do stuff in the interest of impressing people.
/r/seduction17/05/11 03:32 AM
1

You are coming at it from the wrong head space, you shouldn't be trying to impress her. Say whatever you want to. I find that point system a little strange too though heh.
/r/seduction17/05/11 03:15 AM
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Kiss her when you feel like it. As long as you're relatively alone with her, at least away from her friends, every time is the right time to kiss close. Don't let her rejection phase you, laugh it off, and the girl will feel more attraction for you because you made a move. Some of the best guys in this can be rejected over 20 times before they'll kiss the girl. Field tested.
/r/seduction17/05/11 03:03 AM
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You have a low chance of doing it right unless you're approaching a lot. I've done over 500 approaches and I still suck(with intermittent spurts of awesome). Learning to apply these ideas take a lot of practice. I'm sure just being more fit and mellow will increase your chances a lot but don't get hung up on this girl. If you want to get this particular girl, you're better off forgetting about the PUA stuff and being yourself. You really need to start approaching like crazy. Hit on over 40 girls…
/r/seduction17/05/11 02:53 AM
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Dude, getting my friends laid is one of the main reasons I own a couch. Don't tell her you're going to fuck her on the couch, just invite her over with any other excuse and then do it. She isn't stupid, on some level she knows she's coming over to have sex, but most girls won't agree when it's put out in the open like that unless she's really on your nuts.
/r/seduction17/05/11 02:41 AM
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I doubt she's saying anything. If I were you I wouldn't take her out to dinner though, it's harder to get physical fast, there's an implicit pressure, and you have to deal with who pays. Read the FAQs.
/r/seduction17/05/11 02:38 AM
1

You mesh with dudes who are your peers. Have something going for you, personality and skill of some kind. Have hobbies and passions and find like minded people. Then all you have to do is relax and chill with them.
/r/seduction16/05/11 11:49 PM
1

Don't look non-reactive, be non-reactive. It shouldn't effect you emotionally. What you do conversationally doesn't matter as long as you're not increasing the hostility.
/r/seduction16/05/11 11:27 PM
2

Being down after a break-up is normal. If it lasts more than two weeks then you need to snap yourself out of it or find professional help. Go out, find a rebound and get started again asap.
/r/seduction16/05/11 11:24 PM
1

Why even bother when she lives that far away? There are plenty of girls where it's not a nightmare to see in person.
/r/seduction16/05/11 11:21 PM
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Forget this girl you've already ruined it. You're reaching a lot, it's obvious you're putting her on a pedestal and you don't think you can get her, that's what killed it.
/r/seduction16/05/11 11:18 PM
2

He is bragging, not only that, but it's an obviously canned line so he looks even more try hard. Sure there is some internal logic to the statement itself despite it being contrived, though within the context of the situation it's hypocritical. "I'm not impressed by you, here's my line to try to impress you."
/r/seduction16/05/11 02:15 AM
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I was in the exact same position, if you communicate with the girl and she's emotionally stable, it works out.
/r/seduction15/05/11 10:05 PM
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You're better off just assuming the girl is into you no matter what. You can easily get false positives with IOIs, girls fidget sometimes and they could be thinking about someone else. Sometimes girls will be totally into you but consciously trying to hide it. That said, it doesn't really matter if she's particularly into you at any one moment. If you're a cool guy, you're into her, and you two mesh well, she'll end up being attracted to you eventually. I've done the look for IOI thing before, i…
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:58 PM
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I think what he was trying to get at was that he denounces beauty as a meaningful quality, and then brags about dating a supermodel. The way he says it also sounds extremely scripted. Sure, being a douche doesn't make you wrong in general. In the case of social dynamics though, if you're coming off as a shallow asshat I personally think you are doing something wrong. Some people enjoy shallow asshats though so it depends on what you're looking for. Lack of empirical basis and falsifiability does…
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:17 PM
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Really man, what the fuck? He was talking to her as a human being. Yeah females are emotional and we all feel that as a powerful drive, but there's a logical and empathetic component there necessary for a healthy and honest relationship. I really hope you're trolling.
/r/seduction15/05/11 08:57 PM
4

This is excellent advice. Having a fuck buddy can be rough, the drama can get extremely intense. In the end though, words can't describe how worth it it is. As cliché as it sounds, the key is communication, when you guys start to have any sort of awkward pauses MAKE SURE TO TALK IT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I cannot stress that enough. Most likely it'll all work out if you don't, but not without serious heartache for one or both parties. Put the focus on being friends first, that theme helps keep…
/r/seduction15/05/11 08:45 PM
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I'm sure there are girls like this out there, they're rare and probably religiously devout but if that's what you're looking for I'm sure she exists. I just want to ask why? Having sex, making an intimate physical connection with a girl is one of the best parts of a relationship, I personally think that it should be a focus. The nice thing about having sex early on too, is that it's a litmus test for so many things: craziness, how you two mesh in bed, what kind of person she is when she complete…
/r/seduction15/05/11 08:34 PM
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Fourth date? Run to your place and put your P in her V.
/r/seduction15/05/11 08:19 PM
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Sex might. =D
/r/seduction15/05/11 08:19 PM
1

Agreed, the guy comes off as a manipulative dick.
/r/seduction15/05/11 08:17 PM
3

Go out, hit on tonnes of women, talk to lots of people. Try not to think when you're talking to people, just say whatever is one your mind without filtering stuff out. One another note, you might be bi, sexuality isn't black and white, check out the Kinsey Scale.
/r/seduction15/05/11 07:59 PM
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Depends on the person, I mean everyone's different. I'm sure most girls will totally try to get close to a dude she finds attractive for the chance that he'll start talking to her.
/r/seduction15/05/11 07:57 PM
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Hahaha what a little baller. Man I remember my first kiss in kindergarten, I hope the adults don't stamp out this little guy's natural badassery. Just listen to that mother trying to discourage his irreverence.
/r/seduction10/05/11 01:08 AM
1

Wow, it's like you're me.
/r/seduction09/05/11 07:11 PM
1

This or call, I mean you hit it off what do you have to worry about? Just setup a meetup and go to town :).
/r/seduction09/05/11 01:55 AM
1

My approach isn't cold and calculated, be organic and you don't have that problem.
/r/seduction09/05/11 01:46 AM
1

Haha, just stop doing the creepy stuff. Use what you like, discard what you don't. A lot of the stuff in the pickup community is complete bullshit, you just have to sift through it.
/r/seduction09/05/11 01:44 AM
1

I've had a friend who went through the same experience, the girl was really guilty and blamed herself at first. It took a couple weeks but she eventually blamed him and got him expelled from school, luckily she never pressed criminal charges. He really should be attempting to make sure he seems like a nice guy in her eyes.
/r/seduction09/05/11 01:35 AM
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What the fuck dude, don't have sex with girls that are insanely fucked up. If you get her to your place and she can't cogently answer the question "Are you totally sure that you won't regret this in the morning?" then save yourself the grief and get her home. I've had a friend do this same shit and get expelled for it, that was an idiotic decision. While I don't think you should suffer punishment for it, you probably will. The best thing you can do is try to make friends with her and her friends…
/r/seduction09/05/11 01:31 AM
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PUAs are not at all qualified to help you with prescription drug advice, talk to your psychiatrist about this. Introduce him/her to your intentions about shrugging off your social anxiety naturally and you two can work out a plan.
/r/seduction07/05/11 04:00 AM
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Thanks, yeah I have the opposite problem. I end up pulling away too soon because I expect it to be fireworks and puppies and instead of sticking in it and plowing through resistance I leave way too early. I even leave early when it was going quite well and I didn't realise it until afterwards. Honestly that's what you should be doing sticking in until they leave or tell you to fuck off, sounds like you just need to escalate harder.
/r/seduction06/05/11 04:57 AM
1

As far as I understand it, all you need to be good at this is to be a high functioning adult. Literally all else is irrelevant. Stop telling yourself that your hand is a disadvantage, because after reading through this stuff a bit you'll realise that it really doesn't matter at all. In fact, it'll probably help more than anything because it'll make you stand out.
/r/seduction06/05/11 04:53 AM
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Don't try to hide it dude, let her know you want to fuck her. Perhaps not in so many words but use that in your tonality. That's what going direct is all about.
/r/seduction05/05/11 02:43 AM
1

Well I'll count one or two warm-up groups at the beginning, but usually approaching a girl or group of girls where you find at least one of them attractive with the intent to pick her up.
/r/seduction04/05/11 04:31 PM
1

Ozzie says this, and I've experienced it when on the learning curves of a lot of different skills: you can't allow the girl's reactions to effect you, the highs and lows will kill your consistency and exhaust you emotionally. That's how I burnt out on my two favourite sports. Your only criteria for success should be the attempt.
/r/seduction02/05/11 08:54 PM
1

Heh, in my case, a college student. I mean I don't know what to tell you man, try to find a different job? I know it's hard and I have no business telling you how to live your life, nor do I know how difficult you have it, but you get better as you go out more. If you want to get good you have to approach a lot, pure and simple. Courage Wolf
/r/seduction02/05/11 08:51 PM
1

Read my posts about getting out there, it really isn't as hard as you think, and it gets easier over time.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:56 PM
1

Read my posts about getting out there, it really isn't as hard as you think, and it gets easier over time.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:55 PM
1

Approach, a lot. Don't let girl's shutting you down effect you emotionally, you want to be at a point where you really couldn't give a fuck. I mean I'd understand if you two had been together for awhile and had incredible times together, but there are TONNES of women out there if you barely know the chick.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:49 PM
1

You deserve more upvotes, this is the only way to do it.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:43 PM
1

Thanks =D . I actually had 300 at the start, gained from sporadic approaching before.
/r/seduction02/05/11 06:01 PM
0

Two wrongs... So the boyfriend response I see as more of a white lie. If you were being approached by creepy dudes all the time I can understand developing a mechanism for turning them down quickly while attempting not to hurt their feelings. The unanimous opinion was that I should keep it to myself, because noobs like you would be offended and criticize me for even mentioning it. You're going to let my expressed opinion stop you? Fuck us and fuck our opinions if you think it's good for others. …
/r/seduction02/05/11 05:46 PM
2

Thanks man. I want to constantly approach but I'm still a bit scared, there's less anonymity during the day. I will start either this week or the next as my AA is almost gone, I mean it's there but I have the habit of moving my feet and mouth despite what I'm feeling. It disappears over the course of the night and wanes over time. I basically just go to big clubs, and because my ability is low at the moment, the blowouts last no time at all and I'm free to mack on the next girl.
/r/seduction02/05/11 05:31 PM
3

I had always been an extremely shy person, and scared of approaching strangers. The bootcamp helped to quell a lot of that fear and exposed me to processes that make it easier to spur yourself into action. The instructors give you a seminar both days, there were 2 other students there, and 2 other assistants who were helping us, all cool guys. You can look at write ups on the forum to get an idea of what's in the seminar, they do a great job of firing you up to approach. The first night I did we…
/r/seduction02/05/11 09:23 AM
3

Read my reply to EtovNowd. Negative visualisation and knowing what I was missing were really the keys for me. I read a scientific article somewhere about how we respond with action to visualising of completing a goal differently depending on the predicted difficulty of the goal, you should be able to find it with a few searches. I was scared shitless of approaching so whenever I thought about approaching I visualised me pussing out and not approaching and realising how stupid and bad that would …
/r/seduction02/05/11 09:02 AM
3

Go take an RSD bootcamp, I highly recommend it. I'm taking my second one a month from now. Tyler, Jeffy, Ozzie, Alex, and Brad are supposed to be the best instructors, in that order. Their skills should be on a similar level so your choice should probably depend on style discrepancies. I'm doing mine with Tyler this time and my original was with Ryan. I've heard great things about all of the instructors. It really is a mind-blowing experience. EDIT: To give you an idea of results. I went in havi…
/r/seduction02/05/11 08:16 AM
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4 nights a week, go out. Approach as many as you can muster, aim for 20 a night or more. Every approach is a success, use negative visualisation to keep yourself from pussing out. Find emotional leverage. Do it, it's working for me. You will be a fucking pussy at first, I was. It's been a month and I'm almost fearless. Be this: http://imgur.com/4mwph
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:58 AM
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Tried 2, for 5 years, it sucks major ass. Been doing 1 for a month now, 180 approaches in so far, by next 4/20 I'll be a boss.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:55 AM
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Seconded, if she was serious about the relationship then she wouldn't be seeing you. Either that or she's a whore and in that case you're getting some and doing the dude a favor, bi-winning. Just make sure you wrap your tool. EDIT: This explains my feelings on the issue: Courage Wolf
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:42 AM
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You're deluding yourself. That's manipulative and extremely seedy.
/r/seduction02/05/11 07:39 AM
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Approach, do it a lot, try to hit up at least 40 girls a week to start.
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:13 AM
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No fucks would have been given on my end.
/r/seduction02/05/11 12:09 AM
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Cheers, I'll be more bold. Yeah, it's great too because you disengage the filter and it's easier to stop trying to impress. Small world.
/r/seduction01/05/11 10:03 PM
2

Haha yeah that line is from The Blueprint.
/r/seduction01/05/11 10:01 PM
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Sounds like she's not that down, try once more and if it doesn't work out next her. Oh, and approach more, a lot more. No. Seriously. Approach at least 40 girls this week.
/r/seduction01/05/11 09:59 PM
1

Not sure man, it might be her issues and it sounds like you were giving off relationship type vibes.
/r/seduction01/05/11 05:53 PM
1

The key is to approach the first girl you see in the club. You don't have to fuck her, but just make a friend and start getting into a social state. I hear it said that for warmups, you should really talk to any girl, but when you're warm you should be going for girls you're actually attracted to.
/r/seduction01/05/11 05:29 PM
2

TBH, no. But I want to so badly. EDIT: Ryan did tell me on bootcamp that it has worked for him multiple times though.
/r/seduction01/05/11 04:22 AM
4

Just start making out. Extra points for stripping your clothes off and coming out of the bathroom in your boxers/birthday suit.
/r/seduction01/05/11 12:52 AM
1

Great work man, approach more, you should be attempting for above 20-40 approaches a night if you aren't hooking.
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:56 PM
2

I'm going to write it, will post when it's done.
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:51 PM
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To each his own man, both are great strategies. Personally, I'm a lot better when I just jump straight into the deep end. I like the hilarity of epic failure in the club, totally the opposite reaction from what I expected going into this.
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:45 PM
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Totally, the superhot girls are also usually the nicest so it's always a good time.
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:42 PM
4

Thanks man, yeah ejecting early is definitely my biggest focus right now. I had my first plow through bitch shields on Thursday, one of the girls warmed up to me in a group of two, the other dragged her off. I was so stoked because I had reached my goal of staying until they left, or told me to fuck off.
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:27 PM
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I generally can manage a lower bound, most of the blowouts fade from memory. I'm just trying to keep myself accountable to my goals of approaching close to 40 if few groups go well. Sure, when I stop hesitating completely I won't have to keep track, but for now it's just a device to make sure I'm not pussing out. I'm aware that as I get better the ideal number should approach a handful of solid groups per night. EDIT: It also seems like a nice benchmark for progression, I mean the more you put y…
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:19 PM
1

Hahahaha this is insane, start the night by ganking n00bs, end by making out with babes. You sir are bi-winning.
/r/seduction30/04/11 08:04 PM
1

The way you act more natural is by being yourself. I mean you can act through all of you interactions with people but wouldn't you rather them like you for you? Try just acting normal but using a loud voice and slightly breaking rapport tonality. Be friendly and happy and people will respond in kind.
/r/seduction30/04/11 07:42 PM
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Sure, but it's good advice in this case.
/r/seduction30/04/11 06:21 PM
1

What do you have to lose? Obviously don't harass her, but it's always worth a shot.
/r/seduction30/04/11 06:16 PM
1

Dude age doesn't matter, I SNL'd a 27 year old chick when I was 19. You shouldn't have to lie about yourself to bed the girl.
/r/seduction30/04/11 05:27 PM
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Bullshit sir. https://www.realsocialdynamics.com/shop.asp?Group=1 Bangalor, Bombay, Goa, Kolkata, New Delhi, and Pune are all available cities. =D
/r/seduction30/04/11 02:00 AM
1

Great game is invisible, you should be just being real with the girl anyway.
/r/seduction30/04/11 01:35 AM
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Nice dude, the only criteria for success is approach! =D
/r/seduction30/04/11 12:54 AM
2

You did great, you're over-thinking it though, approach more.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:43 PM
1

There's a time and place for telling a girl you're about to fuck her. That wasn't it, every girl's different about it though. Meet her some place public and use some excuse to take her back to your place.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:38 PM
1

I just give her my age or say whatever I want if I'm feeling cheeky. If it's a shit test like some are saying, be unreactive and do the same thing. Worrying about the answer is the only wrong way to do it.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:33 PM
2

Way to go man, hit on at least 39 more per week and you'll be on your way. Get closer if you want to get physical, it becomes natural when you're right up on her.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:29 PM
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That's awesome man, good luck pounding the pussy. Word of warning though, because I went through something very similar. I met the girl that friendzoned me that I wanted terribly a year later. She was down and was wearing this insanely sexy outfit, complete with my shirt, it was on like proverbial Donkey Kong. I had all my hopes up that we'd have sex and it'd be awesome and I'd be the man. I had my whole self image caught up in it. And when I failed miserably and professed my love for her when w…
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:21 PM
1

I use a drop of numbing spray under my knob when a chick needs it really fast for a long time (an hour). Chicks like that need to learn to orgasm hopefully you can teach them. You're my fucking hero. I disagree on not whipping your dick out on chick though. That's how I broke LMR with my last girlfriend on the first night, pulled it out and started jacking off.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:03 PM
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Go out, hit on over 40 girls a week, this is the best tip anyone can give you. No, seriously, do it now. Take a bootcamp, I like RSD, Jeffy and Tyler are their best instructors; you're a programmer so I assume you have the cash to blow. Escalate more. ??? Profit.
/r/seduction29/04/11 08:55 PM
2

I hope you're trolling, if not you really need to go out more or take a long hard look at how you're approaching this. The 7 hour rule has been all but debunked and this post wreaks of mental masturbation.
/r/seduction29/04/11 08:33 PM
3

Damn dude that's really great. I wish I had started that early, keep it up.
/r/seduction29/04/11 08:20 PM
1

Definitely, and try not to see them more than a couple times a week.
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:57 PM
1

I mean, he has a point, Nike does some evil stuff. I try not to feed the trolls. Yeah, that commercial is amazing.
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:55 PM
3

Just do it Pussy.
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:43 PM
1

You're projecting, it's only as awkward as you think it is.
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:40 PM
3

hahaha hilarious, that photo is gold. Text her an hour before to confirm, I've never had a flake when I've done that, only rescheduling. I also like to go on more casual first dates, like a coffee shop. I bring my laptop so even if she flakes or is late, I get some work done and have a nice cup of tea. It also allows you to dress down and that keeps you and her from thinking that you're attempting to impress her. I have a feeling that you lucked out here actually, you probably would have be left…
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:23 PM
1

I really like this video, he iterates through all the main mindsets of RSD over the course of it. Pretty high signal to noise ratio too.
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:11 PM
8

Absofuckinglutly
/r/seduction29/04/11 06:00 PM
1

Dude that doesn't matter, you are okay yourself with living with your parents, it's a smart decision in your circumstances. Why shouldn't she think that's awesome? Haha last time I brought a girl over to my Mom's place, she was WAY too loud. My Mom was beaming knowingly at me all day.
/r/seduction29/04/11 05:59 PM
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Take this advice with a grain of salt, I still suck. Flakes are supposedly caused by lack of experiencing a range of emotions with the girl, bad interactions, and random circumstance you can't control. You said the interaction was awesome, so that leaves she has something going on in her life, or that she didn't experience enough normal everyday emotions with you (boredom, frustration, thoughtfulness). The idea here is that since memory is state dependant, she'll remember that she wants you in a…
/r/seduction29/04/11 05:51 PM
1

My favorite FR thread of all time: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/152765/forum That shit is hilarious.
/r/seduction29/04/11 04:08 AM
1

Ah, (sc) hafu http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hafu
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:51 AM
1

I think they get so engrossed in this stuff that they try to game everyone and they come across as in-genuine. I mean these guys really need professional psychological help to get through some of their issues but they've chosen pickup as therapy and come at it fanatically.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:33 AM
1

Yeah, I've met guys from two different lairs. All of them were a bit insane; I have yet to meet a normal dude from a lair. I mean it's one thing if he's incredibly geeky, I come from the same background so that's awesome. It's different when they are so far removed from normal human interaction and give off a creepy almost predatory vibe.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:23 AM
1

Fat or ugly, most black and asian women, and crazy are usually my filters. Nothing in particular against asians or blacks, I'm just not usually physically attracted to them. The major exceptions are Halfu's, I've seen some gorgeous halfus. I'll sure my taste will change over time though.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:10 AM
1

Heh, I always hand her my phone. That way I don't have to look awkward peering over my phone silently while I try to get her name right. She does the work for me while I'm free to keep talking. It's an added bonus that I won't type her number in wrong. Ejectiing too quickly? I'm working on this too, I'm determined to stay until she leaves or tells me to fuck off tonight.
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:54 AM
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That's awesome man, you're better than me about approaching and making friends in the club. About impressing, do you really want to be polite or are you more driven to not look like a dick and lose the girl? If she's shit testing she'll act offended, don't react and she'll be more attracted. The thing is most girls when asking for a drink are looking for a chump to get free booze, you're not in the wrong by flat out refusing. You don't have to say it in a mean way, but you don't need to soften i…
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:32 AM
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I don't do meal first dates, take her somewhere you like to go. If it's a girl I like and know I'm going to see again. we just alternate, saves the hassle of splitting the check.
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:15 AM
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Just say no, you're over-thinking this, you shouldn't be trying to impress the girl. Stop identifying as an AFC.
/r/seduction29/04/11 02:04 AM
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Don't do it, go solo for now until you meet naturals you can go out with. Try out your local lair but be warned, most of those guys are fucking creepers that are really just going to put you in the wrong head-space. Don't ever talk about this stuff with friends unless you notice they've taken an interest in it, there's a huge stigma around the pickup community and it's largely well deserved. Especially don't talk to girls about it, if shit goes wrong they might attempt to turn your friends again…
/r/seduction29/04/11 01:52 AM
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