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RIP
/r/MGTOW05/10/20 08:57 AM
4

Awesome hustle and keep up the great work.
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 04:03 PM
9

You're getting played. It's up to you if you wanna get played or walk away.
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 11:58 AM
3

As a guy with overabundance mentality (deny bangs for gym or tranquility) I can say it is because most are too brainwashed or narrow-minded.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 04:30 AM
3

Logic. Specifically, cost-benefit analysis. If all you're after is a bang, there are so many superior methods than getting a gf. Most guys are too brainwashed to consider alternative methods and keep running headfirst into a brick wall for a gf. If you're after companionship, you're a cuck. Hit the gym hard & see if you can work that cuck off.
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 11:20 PM
5

LOL he did ALL THAT & still got screwed? Good luck trying to make a woman happy lol.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 01:58 AM
1

I see. Portfolio it is then, thanks
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 06:36 AM
2

Please enlighten me thanks. /srs
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 07:02 AM
-1

Acquire large nest egg and use ETFs See "A Random Walk Down Wall Street" for fundamentals
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 01:38 PM
1

Been working out for many years and share a highly underrated tip that hopefully can benefit you guys. Look into SMR (self-myofascial release). Specifically, check out the Hyperice Hypervolt. More convenient than foam rollers (static or electric). Can use daily pre- or post-workouts and watch your recovery skyrocket. I've done intense workouts back-to-back using this vs. before had to rest for longer periods due to tight muscles.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 03:27 AM
2

Nobody cares if you're a virgin or not. If that's what you wanna do, then fine. Also, the whole rat race is driven by social status. Improve for yourself, but not to impress others. This is long-term sustainable. Focus on improving your life for you, not to impress others.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 02:17 PM
1

Stay strong and if you can, hit the gym and get your confidence and spirits renewed. A strong body fuels a strong mind and vice versa. Read up on some David Goggins when you got time.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 07:47 AM
131

He died a martyr for masculinity and against feminism. His name was Karol Rámon.
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 01:25 AM
1

*Narration Voice begin* This is the Cuck. Watch it broadcast its inner cuck in paragraph form. The Cuck has been referred to by the E-Guinness Book of World Records as the most cuck animal in in the animal kingdom. It really doesn't give a cuck. If it's cuck, it's gonna cuck. Eew! What's that in his IG? Oh, it's a thot? CUCK CENTRAL TO THE RESCUE
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 08:34 AM
2

The irony is so thicc
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 03:06 AM
5

Watch your own back. I may give hints, but after a few times and they still don't get it it's no longer my responsibility. BPs gonna BP and if they want to add drama to their life that's their own choice. I'm focused on my goals instead of involving myself with their drama.
/r/MGTOW07/06/19 02:45 AM
2

Research is good, but I'd suggest not worshipping any "guru". I learn by first principles, namely a set of axioms and reason from there via logical deduction. It is good to revisit your axioms from time to time to see if they still hold true.
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 11:51 AM
4

Ultra level fatality Friendzone.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 12:29 AM
2

Read David Goggins stuff and dare to even try a part of it. If you still feel like life's too easy and don't know how to challenge yourself, congratulations you prob just joined the ranks of world-class excuse makers.
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 12:31 PM
2

Break down your concerns and questions logically. Study physics, math, logic, ... the hard sciences. Then you'll understand biology and the human brain. Once you see how the female mind works, you can gradually deconstruct your interactions with them. You'll deconstruct the feel-good feels of media that pushes hyper-exaggerated romance. There is no need to burn yourself in the fire to learn the fundamental lessons of red pills, but if you have doubts and concerns start from the fundamental scien…
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 02:36 PM
3

As long as the dude isn't messing with my workout I don't care. Avoid drama and focus on personal goals. If the dude wanna PUA I'm not gonna stop him. No point involving myself in others' drama.
/r/MGTOW24/02/19 05:46 AM
6

Porn is better than chicks: 1080P + noise-canceling headphones + just tell the chick to give you a HJ + fast-forward to all your favorite moments of video = BAM all senses on maximum trigger & better than actual banging a chick
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 04:30 AM
1

It's normal to experience this as you awaken. You can see through their manipulative behavior and the cost-benefit analysis indeed does not add up. Only guys who want emotional connection from interacting with girls have a strong desire to "game" them. If you derive no value from such emotional connection, the math simply doesn't add up.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 04:12 PM
7

At least I don't care if guys start doing this for the next generation of grandmas. And if any grandmas did some serious AWALT in their youth, whatever to them too
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 04:06 PM
17

Rows before ho's
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 11:31 AM
6

"Bishes aint nothin but ho's and tricks." -Jurassic Park
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 12:40 AM
7

Yea would be more accurate for the guy running away to be running on another conveyor belt that leads to death. Other points are valid though
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 07:41 AM
29

Sounds awesome to me.
/r/MGTOW06/12/18 01:34 AM
1

/s bro
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 04:00 PM
2

You are a red pill rookie. When you are advanced, you'll look back at all this and laugh at every second wasted feeling sad.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 07:36 AM
14

It happened to Brad Pitt. It happened to Elon Musk. It happened to Johnny Depp. It happened to all the men affected by #metoo. It's been happening to men for over decades... ...Just ask yourself, "Why are you the exception?" Thank us later after you realize oneitis is an unnecessary mental prison.
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 09:12 AM
5

then of course she's pregnant after nutting inside. They need a 200% effective no condom Look up Toydemon onaholes
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 02:58 AM
1

Kid has potential.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 07:18 AM
4

Thanks for sharing brother. RIP to your brother and keep improving your life.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 01:53 AM
40

Women have free license to be massive hypocrites in society and be praised for it. Absurd. Disregard society's double standards and GYOW.
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 01:42 PM
3

Cuz only a moron cuck would invest feels into a girl who has been banged to oblivion
/r/MGTOW19/09/18 01:38 PM
5

You are free. She did you a service by not getting you to sign papers. You got away way better than many fallen men out there so don't waste your opportunity.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 03:24 PM
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"Dont forget whose in charge of you," Ironic because once you sign that paper no matter how much you know your way and don't see yourself deviating from it, daddy govt and her hypergamy will have the final control.
/r/MGTOW17/09/18 03:51 PM
5

Not the cashier we deserve, but the cashier we need...
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 12:23 PM
1

A lot of guys have done some real stupid things for women. The important thing is you are woke now so make the rest of your life the best of your life. Keep on brother.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 07:00 AM
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Videogames are just as valid an entertainment option as whatever else a guy enjoys for fun.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 05:58 PM
1

Thanks for the heads up sir.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 04:46 AM
3

Ah yes. Some of the RP'rs have their egos so far up their asses it's absurd. Like their whole life revolves around proving to themselves + others that they "get" life and can get girls.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 03:31 AM
1

Thanks sir. Just what I needed.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 03:27 AM
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Lol, I did say it was funny "Still loled". My reaction was towards some general reactions where some people were questioning the validity of the quote. I just thought it was really obvious it was a joke quote & it was a light-hearted comment on how everything on the Internets must be true. It's all good.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 01:23 AM
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He definitely said this. I saw this on the Internets, it must be true. /s Still loled.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 09:36 AM
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You're trying to improve yourself on very shaky ground. Cut your losses ASAP and find a more stable living situation. Any improvement you do now will be sucked up by her eventually. Serious. Why bother helping her out more by improving yourself? If you continue, I'd say yes you are being foolish because you embedded yourself in a situation where you have limited control and any improvements you do to your life can be taken away by her on a whim.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 04:14 AM
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As someone who has been heavily immersed in both worlds, I say MGTOW is superior. In PUA, I have high SMV + am getting consistently better results with increasingly attractive women. Why would I lean even further to MGTOW at this point? Answer: A logical comparison of the tradeoffs between PUA vs. MGTOW. Some of my buddies are still stuck in PUA land & still believe being a dancing monkey is the way to go. I've moved on & see that MGTOW is superior.
/r/MGTOW08/07/18 02:17 AM
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Only the original trilogy was gold. All other films in the saga are trash. Lucas almost ruined the originals too. Only magic or somehow the elements came together to make those masterpieces. The prequel trilogy is utter trash and proves Lucas doesn't have it anymore. Glad he's out of it. Read an interview recently where he said if he was in charge of the new trilogy he would have focused on the midi-chlorians or some BS used to describe the Force. All mystique about the original trilogy DESTROYE…
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 04:51 AM
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We in this world together brothers. Stay strong and keep fighting the good fight towards your goals. Bro hug
/r/MGTOW22/06/18 09:05 AM
1

True. But my point was mainly that we're out there and read your posts. So don't feel that if you get minimal upvotes or such that your post is being ignored.
/r/MGTOW16/06/18 02:00 AM
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Western civilization... History repeats itself once again.
/r/MGTOW05/06/18 04:36 PM
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My response is a lot simpler: "Video games."
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 05:37 AM
3

Much wow. So edgy. Revolutionary. Definitely news worthy. Definitely. Hello to the new generation of Western civilization.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 04:50 PM
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The fact that the people behind the justice system allow "girls" or ogres who look like this to get away with this for so long is a crystal clear indication of the depths of gynocentrism & decline in the West. Even a moron would question how she could be raped looking like that. The West is ruled by powers that are CUCK as hell. End of story. Western women are out of control & with the force of the whole government behind them there is no accountability needed on their part. All logical men in t…
/r/MGTOW14/05/18 02:43 AM
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Was listening to this while looking at the pics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUf3pnkqag Feels man
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 03:34 PM
6

Kid's gonna go far in life.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 10:32 AM
2

As I've said before, even if it went back to this I STILL wouldn't become un-red pilled. The cat is out of the bag & now we know the TRUTH of female nature. I only look forward now. Wishing things will go back to this may be a nice fantasy, but even if it does, how can you ignore the truth of female hypergamy? There's no going back now.
/r/MGTOW03/05/18 10:22 AM
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Doing God's work. What a champ.
/r/MGTOW03/05/18 12:12 AM
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That's actually my dream life lol. So I wouldn't even be lying if I told a thot that.
/r/MGTOW02/05/18 04:50 AM
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Disregard females, acquire peace.
/r/MGTOW30/04/18 09:46 AM
3

Interpret it as the couples being cringe instead of the single guy on the right & it makes sense. Also, notice how all the girls are covering their guy's face. And the single dude has nobody covering his face. A good metaphor for their lives.
/r/MGTOW30/04/18 08:00 AM
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Sums up Western "men" of this generation pretty well. At this rate, might as well put him on the cover of Time magazine & have him "Man of the Year". Wouldn't be surprised at all if this happened. Lol at how Western masculinity has devolved since the 80s action movies.
/r/MGTOW27/04/18 09:26 AM
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With regards to the recent Calum von Moger bodybuilding injury: MGTOWs are messiahs. https://youtu.be/KI-JZw_HcRw?t=690
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 10:42 PM
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MGTOWs are messiahs. https://youtu.be/KI-JZw_HcRw?t=690
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 09:58 AM
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TRP. Not MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 04:17 AM
2

Better to be shamed than lose half / all your shit.
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 03:42 AM
1

AWALT is precise. Even if she is somehow better natured than her peers, gynocentric society & laws will set her right & arm her with all the tools to ruin a man. AWALT is not a generalization. It is an insight into the fabric of female nature & gynocentric society.
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 01:32 AM
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Females are so predictable. Dropping you at the first sign of weakness. A lesson I learned a long time ago. It is amusing to see other guys just realizing it. When you are red pilled enough, you can predict female behavior from miles away.
/r/MGTOW25/04/18 10:15 AM
1

For argument's sake, yes agreed that it is rare to see such a guy who would fit all these specific conditions. But Rich Piana (RIP) would be an example. Had all the characteristics of an alpha male on the exterior, but a simp on the inside. There's rich, alpha-like guys who've gone real simp for females as well. Plenty of examples. A simp by definition has no self-respect & can manifest in all forms externally. He is a slave to the poosy.
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 11:30 AM
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You underestimate the level of simpness & thirst that possess some "men". There are guys who would willingly ruin their own life for females (destroy family or close friendships, financially ruin themselves, commit crimes, etc.). This list only removes his own rights with respect to her. Wait till you encounter a simp / white knight who would eagerly remove OTHER'S rights to please her. Despicable trash.
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 11:14 AM
2

Left: 0 to 3 likes Right: 1000+ likes
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 09:08 AM
2

Minus the sex part (since no homo) it actually makes sense. Two homies working together for the greater good. Unfortunately, I'm too deep in don't give a shit land, but if I still cared this is not a bad thought experiment.
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 06:51 AM
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Any dumbass male who agrees to these terms is the definition of simp. And the absurd thing is this list isn't even that extreme. It's typical thot princess thinking. There's simps out there who can go even lower. It's really pathetic to see there are guys who would subject themselves to such treatment.
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 04:37 AM
1

This guy is pretty hilarious & right-on in his other videos too. I remember watching his take on the Godzilla 2014 movie a long time back & related to everything he said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvBofg2G5UI And now his take on modern dating is right on too. I also saw one of his video titles "Batman vs Superman SUCKS". Lol it's like he's reading my mind. It doesn't matter that he's fat. I'm in very good shape & still face similar issues.
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 02:03 AM
1

Until you internalize AWALT you will keep repeating the cycle of seeking validation from women. Fix your understanding of female nature first.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 01:12 AM
1

DARWIN.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:38 AM
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No problem. It's good to get the metrics as I wasn't aware of how to do so & was interested myself. Carry on the good work.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 03:35 PM
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In other words, AWALT.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 05:15 AM
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I also lurked a while before creating an account. Which is why I say I visited. I didn't create an account & post until after a very long time. Of course, memory can be hazy. It's good you pulled out the specifics. I'm not here to establish myself as some OG MGTOW (not interested in that). Just wanted to share my observations of the past. If I'm mistaken in my timeline, forgive me & disregard my observations.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 02:22 AM
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Lol awesome exit strategy.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 12:30 AM
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I'm not sure. I just remember seeing a figure like "486" in my head. I also have memory of it being even lower than that (into the 200 or 300s) when I visited, but to be safe I'll just say "less than 500". It was pretty much all content by men who have gone through the war zone. So lots of personal stories with a lot fewer generalized posts as you see today. Also, no memes. None. It was a serious conglomeration of raw stories + understandable rage. The intensity/seriousness was certainly one thi…
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 03:46 PM
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Dude is a moron.
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 02:47 PM
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I remember coming to this forum when it was still less than 500. I visited routinely & saw milestone after milestone reached as it blew past 1000, 2000,...,15,000...to now 54,000+. Phew. Amazing progress fellas.
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 11:07 AM
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"I'm disappointed in her but much more disappointed in myself in thinking I could get the messages of MGTOW to actually resonate." Yup. Don't even bother. Waste of energy.
/r/MGTOW17/04/18 01:08 AM
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You are way ahead in the game. DO NOT throw it away by investing in females. Even if you pump & dump STDs are a risk. I'd suggest embracing celibacy and slowly filtering from there if you really need female touch. It's prob very hard in your prime of raging hormones, but it's worth it to evaluate very carefully how you approach females at this time as they are a risk to your empire. Sure, this is a better safe than sorry approach and you may come out unscathed, but just warning in case your horm…
/r/MGTOW16/04/18 11:32 AM
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I came here pretty early on. I think it was less than 500. Dynamics were quite different then. I remember this place was a lot smaller than mgtow.com (I didn't like the formatting there as much so I came here more often). You could tell it used to be posted by MGTOWs who went through the grinder (aka older men), but I've noticed an influx of young MGTOWs as this sub grew. There were also little or no meme posts back in the day. Just straight serious posts on MGTOW life with stories to back it up…
/r/MGTOW12/04/18 02:17 AM
10

Very nice analysis. Never thought of it that way, but had a gut feeling you put into words. Saved & upvoted.
/r/MGTOW10/04/18 12:54 AM
2

All I can say is you are wise beyond your years. And you just landed in a jackpot of gold information & resources. You have a MAJOR head start.
/r/MGTOW09/04/18 08:39 AM
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MGTOW does not discriminate. Come here if you're a thot slaying veteran or virgin. This is the ONLY authentic male space left in a world eaten by gynocratic influence. You don't have to impress anyone here. You can come here as a broke, no life loser & feel just as welcome as the guy who pursues self-development. While common human decency applies (cutting down your fellow MGTOW brothers with poor behavior won't win you any favors), there is no cultish requirement to prove yourself to be MGTOW. …
/r/MGTOW09/04/18 03:18 AM
2

Western decline proof right here. When telling the truth on a news discussion panel warrants an apology (wtf). The PC BS as the norm in Western civilization is BS and stunts intellectual discussion / progression of any form. The reign of "Muh feels" has taken over. The decline is real.
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 02:30 PM
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You are on the right track. I have had the same feeling & not to compromise my dignity for stupid attention on women. I know how annoying it can be to hang around dudes who can't control themselves around women. Respect brother.
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 07:05 AM
2

Bros & carrots before hoes
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 06:52 AM
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If you don't want kids, you have absolutely 0 reason to even consider marriage. Just get a dog if you need companionship. At worst, date & LTR if you absolutely need human female companionship. You're sad because you think the grass is greener. In other words, you are ignorant of the realities of dating, LTRs, & especially marriage. If you truly knew the cost to freedom that those entail, you wouldn't even consider it. Get educated, before you wreck yourself.
/r/MGTOW06/04/18 12:00 AM
1

This is a trend that has taken hold of Western media in recent years and is yet another indicator of Western decline: writing the obvious in published form as to convey professionalism. Anyone with a brain can know to minimalize expenses. I like how women are entitled to a previous standard of living. A self-aware man can be rich whether he is materially poor or rich. Men really only pursue material wealth for women. I am happy eating eggs in a Mom n' Pop shop or fine dining. I like eggs.
/r/MGTOW23/03/18 02:15 PM
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Muh feels = true. Accountability = Anything / 0.
/r/MGTOW23/03/18 02:02 PM
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Ignore his downvote. Even among MGTOWs retards who can't detect sarcasm exist.
/r/MGTOW23/03/18 01:52 PM
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This shit is seriously out of control. The fact that this kind of thinking is actually mainstream in the West is absolutely ridiculous. No need to go further to see the Western decline than feminism in action. Likewise, the fact that MGTOW (reason) is seen as extreme is a symptom of widespread social illness in the West. MGTOW is simply a reaction to the abysmally poor cost-benefit of dealing with women. China will surpass the West at some point simply because of retarded feminism gone wild. I u…
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 12:44 PM
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The scary thing is they aren't even married yet or have kids. Imagine the financial and emotional turmoil that comes with that in a binding contract. Doom 2: Hell on Earth.
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 02:45 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story. You are closer to thinking like a MGTOW than blue pills who condone this kind of female behavior. Although it's regrettable you found out too late, I don't think you should feel unaccepted here. While you aren't living the life of a MGTOW, your mentality is a lot closer than even single men who still cling on to fantasies.
/r/MGTOW09/03/18 03:28 PM
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I've seen this phenomenon too often among Western men. Asians get a bad rep in the US about not being "alpha", but that couldn't be further from the truth in real life. What I mean is if you ever visit Asia, a lot of the men are financially savvy and much more red pill than the average Western man. This means it is common among Asian men to seek out thin, good-looking females regardless of their own SMV. Landwhales (few as they are) are fat-shamed & rarely paid any attention to. Conversely, when…
/r/MGTOW07/03/18 02:13 AM
1

The safest / solid plan is to go to the best school you can for engineering. What kind of engineering depends on you, but if I could go back in time I'd shoot for computer science. The learning curve is high initially, but it will pay off in spades when you enter the working world.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 03:15 AM
1

Don't worry about it. It's not meant to be understood by dumbasses.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 09:38 PM
3

The replies here have been a string of gold. Impressive.
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 12:15 PM
1

I'll give you something to think about and a view that may differ from other MGTOWs. Frankly, you're in a decent position. Just take care of your kid and get the divorce finalized. You may even come out with a plus if she makes more than you. Regardless, you're on your way to singledom with a kid. There's worse like continuing in the marriage or dealing a vindictive ex, which it sounds like isn't the case since she wants to leave you too. Get the basics sorted (clean divorce as possible, take ca…
/r/MGTOW03/03/18 09:12 PM
1

Problem solved :)
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 02:51 PM
3

I'm a natural nice guy turned extreme red pill. I legit don't care about treating a girl nice now whether she likes me or not. I still have proper etiquette and cordial reciprocation, but I no longer have any semblance of oneitis desires. If that's what you're looking for, a deeper red pill analysis of the girls you like may be necessary to see past the haze that's blocking you.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 02:12 PM
4

Simple. Women have made commitment such a shit deal it takes little cost-benefit analysis to see that if you simply pursue self-development for its own sake you'll find the MGTOW lifestyle is better for your health, wallet, mental peace, etc. Only brainwashed or uninformed men can't see the benefits of a MGTOW lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 12:17 AM
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Don't get married. If you want kids, consider surrogacy or alternative methods outside of marriage. If you don't want kids, enough said. Other than that, you can go on living the way you want. If you are interested in self-improvement I'd suggest exercising and learning a skill that earns you income. Travel if you want. Go by these basic rules and you'll pretty much avoid the common life traps.
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 03:10 PM
3

I see a lot of men overcomplicating life. Life is not that complicated unless you are physically handicapped in some way. Even then, there are a set of rules they need to follow to better their life. I rarely step out and offer life advice to people outside my inner circle, but for my fellow MGTOW brothers I'm willing to help. Here is what you should focus on in life in priority order: Health Wealth (Optional) Social relationships (basically anything to do with human relationships falls here) Yo…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 06:08 PM
2

Invest in yourself brother.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 11:37 PM
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If you continue on this path, you will become more free than you've ever been. You will have the power to accomplish your life goals beyond anything you've ever experienced before. The initial phase of realizing the world isn't as pretty or romantic as you thought will pass. And what comes out is a machine well-equipped to be a lazy couch potato w/out guilt or a goal-blazing monster. I've been knee deep in TRP as a Chad essentially and I am confirming the "juice is not worth the squeeze". The am…
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 03:55 AM
4

Live and learn brother. You have NO idea how good you have it now that you aren't chained to some girl. Invest in yourself and you'll see how silly you are being right now sobbing over some thot on her way to the Wall. We've all been there and have come out stronger and more free.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 03:23 AM
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Lol either a troll or another clueless PC automaton simpleton. MGTOW is the GOAT lifestyle for men. It can be seen logically. The ONLY reason to even consider dealing with women on a longer-term basis is if you want children. Even then, there is surrogacy and artificial wombs in the future. Consider the fact that if you simply pursue self-development for its own sake (and not caring about being MGTOW), you will realize the MGTOW lifestyle allows the man to reach his potential in health, finance,…
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 12:30 AM
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"It really is true that a man is entirely judged by his ability to produce and provide. Once we show any weakness, it is amazing how quickly women (and society in general) can turn on us." Keepin' it real brother. Never forget this brothers and you won't lose your grasp on reality.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 01:26 PM
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I am already red pill extreme so this is common knowledge for me. But this is still valuable for newcomers to red pill & a good reminder for red pill vets who may be getting rusty in their mental lock on reality (sliding into fantasy land). Saved & upvoted.
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 10:48 PM
2

Thanks for sharing your story from the battle zone. Takes a lot of balls to share this.
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 10:44 PM
2

Met some guys like this recently. Thank you & good reminder to keep my distance.
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 01:49 AM
2

Straight wisdom.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 11:37 PM
4

Typical brainwashed PC reply. I see this kind of reply ad nauseum outside MGTOW circles.
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 12:09 AM
7

Great analysis. This should be highlighted. One of the greatest brainwashing / tricks society ever pulled was making men believe women are the prize (when it's the opposite). You can see this for yourself as you pursue self-development. You become healthier, wealthier, less stressed, and much more. What do modern women bring to the table? Virtually nothing advantageous. You don't have to be MGTOW to see this, just simple cost-benefit analyses.
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 11:55 PM
3

That's why you never cohabitate. Any man who does has already submitted to the first big step towards the plantation.
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 12:11 AM
1

Hey what's up Darwin
/r/MGTOW21/01/18 01:51 PM
2

Winning.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 12:33 AM
4

Only blue pills think women are mysterious.
/r/MGTOW12/01/18 04:58 AM
1

I rarely give second chances on highly potent advice such as MGTOW. If a blue pill idiot gives me an attitude when I'm legitimately trying to help his life via red pill info., he'll be lucky to get a second chance. I'd rather watch him rot than waste time trying to convince him. Case-by-case basis, but the bottomline is I don't take it lightly to impart potent red pill advice.
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 02:43 AM
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I don't care about the tone. The last thing we need is increased policing & MGTOW to become PC'd. Oxymoronic. If you need to be coddled to be MGTOW, you probably shouldn't be here.
/r/MGTOW08/01/18 03:00 PM
3

All I got out of this was damn it feels good not to be a blue pill.
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 09:54 AM
1

As others have said, white knights are the root cause of gynocentrism. They bestow all the legal power that enables women to ruin a man's financial life. Closely followed by NAWALTs. Getting married for sex is dumb as rocks. You'll get way more sex from women in their prime by not getting married. The ONLY reason to even consider it is for children. EVEN then, there is surrogacy. There are no pros for a man to get married in the modern age. If you don't want children, you already know what to do…
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 02:01 AM
5

facepalm Mangina disease truly knows no bounds.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 07:54 AM
5

Darwin's calling...
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:45 AM
3

I wouldn't let him off the hook so quick. He was heavily anti-MGTOW before and he still shames fellow men for being MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 04:18 AM
6

Don't cohabitate again. Lock problem solved.
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 04:14 AM
1

I'm having flashes of getting past red pill rage. What that means is watching Western women in action like this is becoming more absurd than rage-inducing. I can only laugh at the amount of stupidity in this post & pity the beta who actually agrees with this bullshit.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 03:42 AM
1

That's some quantum shit right there.
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 06:36 AM
1

I don't see any MGTOWs doing that. Even P&D MGTOWs don't care if you get laid or not. He's just getting his business and moving on.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 09:37 AM
29

Winning.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 07:11 AM
3

Act/be poor as shit.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 02:16 AM
3

That's why I'm on monk mode. Don't want to deal with the bullshit.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 02:04 AM
9

I learned this fast. You'll gain nothing from it and she'll just use the knowledge gained for the next one. If you know this it shows you have a solid understanding of women.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 02:07 PM
3

I'm starting to go so deep into MGTOW my first thought on seeing the pic was why would I even want to waste time on dinner dates with a sex robot.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 01:52 PM
2

You are spot on. When I was doing TRP, I calculated exactly the items you listed that needed to be maxed out to even have a chance at the top. You wrote it out really well. Ridiculous how much effort it takes. I said fuk all that and went MGTOW. I still do things, but for myself.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 01:33 PM
213

I feel sorry for you losing sleep over this shit. Hope you can get more sleep cause these women sure as hell didn't lose sleep over you when they were in their prime years.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 01:08 AM
2

I think you're still holding onto the fantasy in some way. I heard this all the time growing up, "life without sharing it with someone isn't as enjoyable" or some variation of that. I didn't really espouse that & still don't. I've been in relationships before where we didn't share the same interests. I KNOW I would have been better off enjoying my hobby by myself. I've realized I'm a walking mass of organic matter among many others & love is a bunch of evolutionary chemicals before finding MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 02:58 AM
24

Lol saved and upvoted.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:54 PM
3

What's funny is this is the same thought process that goes through my head and I have a high sex drive and am in monk mode. So I know what you're saying.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:48 PM
2

Roger that.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 03:41 AM
2

Already know this, but thank you for fleshing it out in words.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 03:38 AM
5

It's too late for me. I've seen the red pill. Even if women magically went back to old times I can't look at them the same way again. I don't pine for the old days as it's not gonna happen and even if it did, I've seen their true nature. The fantasy is dead to me and just moving forward from this point on.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 03:32 AM
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I stop short of caring what other MGTOWs choose to do with their lives. I'm against gynocentric laws that enable women to destroy men's lives. Remove that and nagging and manipulation that women yield have significantly less power.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 12:54 AM
4

Meanwhile in China, AI + cloud technology + economic expansion are plunging full force ahead. Good job West.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 12:49 AM
13

I have been all over Asia. AWALT. Nagging and manipulation just as bad if not worse. Feminism also catching up. They still watch over their looks so at least that is redeeming unlike Western purple Barney tatted up whales.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 12:20 AM
2

Used to watch this on repeat back in the day. Helped my TRP attitude at the time. Didn't realize it was MGTOW till OP posted.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 12:23 AM
2

I've known about the power of makeup way back in my TRP days. Coming from a bodybuilding background, you can easily pinpoint your imperfections. Simply apply that to women and you can spot the same thing. It's not hard for me to visualize what she would look like without makeup and what this app has done is taken that visualization into reality.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:58 PM
4

The decline effects are already happening outside the US. US used to be seen as a beacon of power & respect. Now the men are viewed as emasculated who can't control their women or their borders. I'm already sitting back by adopting monk mode.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 06:52 AM
1

Health > women. You'll understand when you're in a dark place where you barely have enough energy to “lift and hold frame bruh” or give a shit about that. I find joy in the simple things in life now like eating a healthy meal or getting sleep over stressing out over women.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 04:51 AM
10

It's only selfish because it prevents the girl from attaining his assets. Girls friendzone and leave guys all the time. Yet, they're not called selfish.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 04:43 AM
2

I only think about them for business or biological purposes. In other words, no romantic feelings. This is not intentional either. I simply see them as biological beings driven by emotions and getting through life. However, our gynocentric legal system enables them to wield great power over men's lives so I keep wary. Maybe I'm a lone wolf at heart as I'm drawn to solo hobbies, but I also enjoy good company. But I lost the fantasy desire since I ingested the red pills.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 04:22 AM
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China is already surpassing US in certain key areas of technology like AI. They don't bother with this SJW bullshit. While China has its own set of problems, I wouldn't be surprised to see the West decline noticeably further. I'm a fan of freedom of speech and other Western philosophy, but at the current rate it's getting harder and harder to support a system that continuously demasculates men. I find 0 appeal in Western women as femininity is high on my list and any remnants of that has been tr…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 04:17 AM
2

I can do alpha fux and I still go my own way. Why? One time I was sick to the bones and realized none of the girls I was talking to would give a shit about me in my sorry state. I couldn't hold frame or all that other bullshit when I barely had the energy to move. I woke up and placed health over women. Instead of going out at night, I choose to get a good night's sleep. Feel much better about myself already.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 05:18 AM
1

I travel there from time to time & I simply go monk mode without breaking a sweat. Just from Tinder alone my options are atrocious compared to what I can get abroad. Landwhale after purple tatted up SJW feminist landwhale. In comparison, I'm matching with flight attendants, fitness models, college-aged students, etc. and even a celebrity singer abroad. The cost-benefit of investing in dating there is simply too poor such that I actually feel like I'm going on a monk retreat whenever I visit. Mon…
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 03:15 AM
1

I have good tinder pics and matches with several attractive females. Including fitness models, flight attendants, etc. I think one was even a celebrity singer. Yet I've rarely gone out. I live a healthy bodybuilding lifestyle and I don't like things interfering with it, even dating.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 02:56 AM
1

First box will filter out a lot of Western women.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 02:34 AM
1

And nothing of value was lost that day.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 02:23 AM
3

I remember a time in my junior high school chemistry class when the teacher let us go off and do our experiments & a whole bunch of guys started crowding around a girl to help her. I was too young to fully comprehend what was going on and just thought it was odd a bunch of guys migrated to a girl to help her with the lab. I didn't think more of it than to get back to my work. Now thinking back many years later, I see that this ingrained BP behavior starts very young. My observations reflect very…
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 01:50 AM
2

Huge bullet dodged. Lucky man you are.
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 01:05 AM
3

MGTOW will grow, but not as fast as it has in Japan. Reason is cultural. Macho masculinity is more deeply ingrained in Western culture and to break away from that into more intellectual territory like MGTOW requires deeper introspection. Japan or Asian culture in general is more accepting of gamers and introverts who think more introspectively. I know because I've lived in both the West and Asia for many years. The problem I see in the West is a lack of cost benefit analysis when it comes to wom…
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 12:40 AM
2

Won't touch and don't care.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 05:16 AM
6

Ironically, I might just text something like that just for kicks. Texting shit that's supposed to hold frame or some BS can get repetitive. Worst thing for sending an intentionally beta text is I get a laugh out of it and sleep soundly.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 04:29 AM
13

Western women. Japan's phenomenon is driven by different motivations. The illogicality of Western women behavior & empowerment has become so far-fetched that Western men are finally waking up. Couple this with the power of the Internet to share information & we are seeing MGTOW spread globally. MGTOW is most popular in Western countries as nowhere else are women at such a poor cost-benefit, but as feminism spreads more men are starting to wake up globally.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 02:29 AM
1

Thanks for the heads up. Subscribed.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 01:07 AM
1

Great insight. Women only #metoo the high-status men. They thirst for status by association.
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 12:47 AM
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It's the only sub that truly doesn't put women on a pedestal. Makes them accountable for their actions which in this day is considered hate speech and misogyny (how retarded can Western PC culture get). TRP says they don't, but it couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/MGTOW11/11/17 12:19 AM
1

I simply don't involve with Western women. You can find a more feminine version of every type of Western woman in their home countries. Why bother dealing with a feminist-infused version of the same type of woman? I simply monk mode in Western countries now. It's not even a struggle for me at this point. A simple cost-benefit analysis tells me to acquire currency, disregard females.
/r/MGTOW11/11/17 12:07 AM
5

YouTube is SJW central.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 11:53 PM
1

They don't even trust themselves. And we're expected to trust them? Logic...if you want it don't get involved.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 11:51 PM
2

The thought NEVER crossed my mind to avoid LTRs before I found MGTOW. I was single, but I talked to girls still with the hope that maybe one can be my gf. Once I realized exactly how liberating singledom is, the perspective completely changed and now I DON'T envy couples.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 10:01 AM
1

Step by step First, travel abroad to find out how Western women are utter shit these days. Next, be with foreign women to realize AWALT. But at least they still realize looks are their primary asset and attempt to look good and offer something. Monk mode in the West should be easy at this point. After finding foreign women to be even more naggy and manipulative, going monk becomes more and more appealing. This is how you easily stop giving a shit about female validation.
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 09:45 AM
2

Brb using imagination
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 09:40 AM
2

And nothing was lost that day.
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 08:20 AM
3

Shit is ridiculous. At this point, marriage destruction is as common as the next mass shooting or terrorist attack. Common news. Pathetic as it is tragic that it's become common in modern society.
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 06:54 AM
2

Yes. The rest is just living my life and trying to avoid the pitfalls that come with dealing with females.
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 06:46 AM
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I got a better idea. Go monk mode in the West & stash that currency. If needed, go abroad for play.
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 12:14 PM
8

Your grandfather was BP and major violator of man code 101.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 05:50 AM
7

Not our problem!
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 05:41 AM
3

I solved this problem by going single and eating everything in my bowl. metoo
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 05:37 AM
1

If a dog can't fulfill your needs of companionship, you might as well get married.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 05:32 AM
3

Western men really get the worst of the worst. This standard of “beauty” coupled with the worst case of female entitlement. No wonder MGTOW is blowing up. Not saying female nature is any better elsewhere, but if you're going to interact with females you might as well have SOME redeeming quality to begin with. C’mon Western females aren't even trying and not only that their delusion has raged out of control to hamstering 9000.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 04:47 AM
0

Women.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 01:22 AM
1

My ultimate: ghost. Lol, don't want to hijack your thread so carry on.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 12:37 AM
8

This generation of women is a sacrificial generation. They'll have to learn the hard way that their looks are their asset and by wasting it away their older years will be spent with a cat in a hat. Maybe a few will get lucky and lockdown a mega CUCK like the president of France. But the majority will have a nice visit to Dr. Seuss.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 12:29 AM
13

Spare no sympathy for these women. Any man who locks up with an older women is condoning the worst behavior of women and is the biggest CUCK of them all.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 12:18 AM
2

The social acceptance of women as “emotional” creatures who “can’t help it” when they lose their emotions is the biggest get-out-of-jail card/pussy pass ever created. They can get away with murder simply because they have a pussy and what that consequently entails in social acceptance. Reminders are an important part of MGTOW. It is easy to forget when our opponent is a product of millions of years of evolution.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 12:10 AM
4

PC BS advice that's been repeated since the beginning of time and yet the divorce rates are still rising. Do the math.
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 10:37 AM
1

It's only funny until you realize it's basically unfiltered truth. Everything else is masked with heavy layers of PC.
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 07:41 AM
1

Get informed / knowledge. Remember, oneitis & any thoughts related to it arise from living in a bubble. Meaning you are lacking vital information that will allow you to see the truth. "Love", feels, etc. are just chemicals in the brain. Perhaps in a less gynocentric world, that would be acceptable. But in today's highly & increasingly gynocentric world, there are deadly legal consequences for letting these feelings run your life. Not only are your own chemicals working against you, but all corpo…
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 07:34 AM
2

Y'all betas ain't doing it right. You gotta hold frame THEN lift bro. Your gains will be affected by the frame you hold bro dude. Dude, she totally rejected your approach because you didn't hold frame at the right angle. She couldn't see you holding the right frame dude bro! Bro, she's bro-ing for a bro bro! Just bro bro her and you'll be spinning plates and tearing up pussy like a bro bro bro bro! BROOOOOOOOOOO! -A day in the life of a TRP
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 11:38 AM
1

Same.
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 09:35 AM
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I can attest to this. Growing up, I had grand ambitions of helping the world and doing something that'll bring value to all of humanity. Now understanding women and BPs, I have 0 motivation to see to the betterment of mankind. I am well aware of what kind of work I should be doing to contribute to society, but I can't be bothered now. I started off not even being the kind of guy who dated multiple women, but understanding hypergamy and female nature, I've become an unintended Chad so-to-speak. T…
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 02:16 AM
3

Thanks for sharing brother. Takes balls to admit your horror story, but these kinds of stories are what brings real value to the MGTOW community. Stay strong & strive for a way out if you still can.
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 01:31 AM
5

This is what I've always said. A MGTOW can be as lazy as he wants or pursue self-improvement to the fullest. No other collective allows such freedom of lifestyle. You are either shamed for being lazy or running full throttle on self-improvement. But in MGTOW, you are simply a man going his own way as long as you do not subject yourself to certain gynocentric chains.
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 01:15 AM
13

He probably apologizes to her after every meal for having a penis. He let's her stomp on his balls in high heels for Saturday night pre-game before she heads out for ladies’ night w/the Chad's while he stays at home watching the house like a good boy. Of course, he is not allowed to fap so he makes a pinky promise with her before she leaves and signs an agreement on the kitchen table not to fap. The consummate r\BP role model. And when she returns, he is waiting by the door to remove her shoes a…
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 09:44 AM
5

Judging by his relaxed body language, he definitely released before the end. Legend.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 09:35 AM
0

Man lands on moon. Welcome to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 12:44 AM
2

Agreed. More men need to get a set of balls and keep their hobbies openly. I had a girl over before and I just played videogames no fuks given. She accommodated and even wanted to play the game with me. I was legit willing to choose videogames over pussy cause I wasn't going to let some girl come in between my hobbies. This is if you're dating. If not, no fuks given do whatever you like. I have dropped numerous girls because I wasn't going to bend over for some pussy. I have no fear of losing my…
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:17 AM
6

Sounds as well equipped as you can be to me. I wouldn't feel bad at all. Imagine being anything less than a MGTOW in that scenario. She’ll eat you alive.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 02:47 PM
9

Which is why I'm single. I mean legend.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 11:44 AM
10

Corroborated. Vicious materialistic as fuk. Only good for P&D if you're inclined.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 11:19 AM
8

Legend status checking in.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 11:11 AM
4

Thanks for sharing. I think what pushed me over the edge was full-heartedly trying to help BPs awaken, but getting burned instead. I became very wary of any BPs and WKs afterwards rather than trying to reform them. You’re one of the reformable guys, but it appears I have yet to meet guys like you IRL.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 07:52 AM
11

Maybe this is a little heartless, but I find that the deeper I go into the rabbit hole the less tolerance I have for BP & WK phaggotry men. I too came from that domain, but at this point red pill knowledge seems so obvious I have trouble feeling empathy for men who subject themselves to abusive female behavior. What doesn't help is I've tried to help BP men seemingly on the borderline, but they ended up dragging me down in public with some straight BP phaggotry. So pardon me if I feel the need t…
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 04:53 AM
11

No sympathy for these overprotective WK phaggots. Let them rot in their own guilt.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 04:45 AM
24

So Sex & The City sisters' night out & all that BS is OK, but NOOOO Bromance is dangerous? HYPOCRISY at its finest. Gynocentrism is taking over the world & MGTOW is the last stand. Even TRPs have succumbed to it.
/r/MGTOW14/10/17 03:34 AM
15

Hallelujah!
/r/MGTOW14/10/17 03:25 AM
5

A reminder that this is a BLESSING in disguise. By exiting out of a relationshit, things can only go UP from there. Watch your health + wealth skyrocket to new levels as you stay the course & don't jump into another relationshit.
/r/MGTOW14/10/17 03:23 AM
5

Just a clear indicator BP.
/r/MGTOW13/10/17 02:41 PM
5

Female + Friend = Does not compute. At best they are temporary alliances. Once they get a relationship or shacked up, POOF they're gone.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 06:29 AM
4

Allegations of rape these days are about as credible as the "boy who cried wolf".
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 06:25 AM
8

Female entitlement is a global phenomenon. Hence, the rise of MGTOW especially among logical men.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 03:26 PM
4

Fall of Western civilization. Imminent. No healthy, red-blooded male would shack up a Western woman unless he was a total moron.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 02:06 PM
25

Disney fukked up my life with that extreme cuck BP chit. Fuk you Disney. I'm going on that Fight Club, Matrix Red Pill time.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 01:56 PM
26

The fall of Western civilization is near. The quality of women in the West has fallen to abominable levels. What was once a blue-eyed, blonde bombshell paradise has turned into a purple mass of tatted & ringed-up land whales. You don't even have to be MGTOW to realize how femininity is dead in the West. I feel like an eunuch whenever I'm back there.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 01:52 PM
24

Pretty ballsy of you to share. Thanks brother. While I've never been cheated on (that I know of & even then I DGAF), my turn to the red pill unleashed a monster. So for the next girl, I basically went from BP to I DGAF if she's banging 10 dudes...she's only there for busting nut. I had full control of the relationship & legitimately DGAF about anything except what I wanted to do. She went with it. Literally from there on, 0 oneitis & full charge self-improvement on health & finance. This was pre…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 05:57 AM
3

Some men are simply BP beyond salvation.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 04:14 AM
8

EXTREME CUCK CENTRAL
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 06:36 AM
11

Everything said here is SPOT on. As an avid fitness & bodybuilder fanatic, everything said here is legit.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 03:59 AM
30

Should just called the movie Cuck Central. Dude was on top with dat MGTOW life & threw it away for the worst possible option: single-mother. What an idiot.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 03:28 AM
2

Pan Asia. Yes, still AWALT & insufferable cunt syndrome is no different here. I haven't had a relationship here for years so you know where I'm coming from. But like said above, the divorce laws aren't as cuck here. Also, average guys here talk about whores & the cost-benefits of dealing with women. Still a lot of BP simps, BUT the level of simp is not as bad as I've seen or heard in the West. I know the level of cuck in the West wasn't as bad in the past & now it's blown to preposterous levels.…
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 12:53 AM
3

That's because MGTOWs completely sever any need for female validation. TRPs are still bounded by the need for female validation so will never achieve the type of mental freedom that MGTOWs experience. I will always place MGTOWs at the top because no other category in the manosphere gives less of a fuk than they do.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 03:28 PM
6

I hope they continue that retarded chit. This way, I have even less incentive to deal with women and consequently more freedom.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 03:25 PM
2

Any guy who falls for this chit is a BP simp beyond salvation. A big bun is nothing less than an indicator of "insufferable cunt".
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 03:20 PM
43

No sympathy from me. BPs gonna BP. There is 0 excuse not to walk away when you've been blatantly disrespected by a female. I swear, this kind of thing is uncommon in Asian countries where RP discussions happen in the open. Western men really have been cucked beyond the average. How the mighty have fallen.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 03:15 PM
3

Lol I was in your position once. Thought just like you. Now I couldn't be happier on my own and have more girls on my phone than I got time to deal with (not that this matters for MGTOWs but I mention it to show you how getting caught up with one girl is ridiculous). Do the math.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 01:47 PM
4

Let me describe the ideal scenario sex robots are headed towards: Sex robots once optimized will be SUPERIOR to women for sex. Why? They will be fully customizable to your needs. You can pretty much replicate the face of any attractive women you've seen or even create new attractive faces. Smart AI will coordinate their rhythm to yours to create the best possible orgasmic experience. They'll be able to have conversations with you based on the personalities you select for their AI. With that, you…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 07:52 AM
5

Sex robots, once optimized in realism, will be one of the greatest inventions to counterbalance gynocracy the world has ever known. Add artificial wombs to that & there is literally NO reason to deal with women. Want 10/10 STD free sex? There's your sex robot. Want kids? Artificial wombs. Unfortunately, I don't see artificial wombs advancing fast enough at the current rate to be available for the male masses in my lifetime. So surrogacy is something I'm looking at. Sex robots, however, I am look…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 07:40 AM
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I haven't delved into conspiracy theory that deeply, but your post hits upon similar lines. My point was the powers at be in the past (the men of those times) allowed feminism to rise out of control. Gynocracy is human nature, but men held power for years until recently. No where is this more apparent than in the West. Female entitlement is highest in Western countries. So actually yes, MGTOW is an effective way to counter the government (blue pill WKs) even if your intentions are simple and you…
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 06:25 PM
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Some of y'all ain't getting my point. I DGAF about correcting society either, I am commenting on a logical thought analysis. I don't bother discussing this with women because it would be fruitless. I raise it here because it is a further level of thinking. AWALT? Yes. But think about it. Men had power before. Now they don't. What happened? Did females hold men hostage? No, the men LET them get out of control. Why are women still not acting as wild in Middle Eastern countries? Like I said, I won'…
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 05:41 PM
1

Are you there to bang girls or deflect AMOGs? Lol, get your priority straight
/r/seduction23/09/17 06:54 PM
1

It all comes down to sex drive. Why do you get anxious about losing a job? Is it the actual job itself? Would you throw away your life because you can't go in another day of 9-5 to type on the computer? No. Men do it for poosy. Simple as that. That is why MGTOW focuses on gynocentrism. If you could bang women without a job, men wouldn't give a fuk about jobs. (similar to a bit from a Chappelle standup) That's what men need to realize. Why the fuk are you actually working in the first place? You …
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 04:10 PM
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While it's admirable you want to extract some men from the blue pill, I've had bad experiences with trying to do just that noble thing and getting burned. The depths of blue pill in some men runs too deep that they will drag you down if you try to help them. Just looking at this guy's text indicates he is way deep in blue pill hell. I MIGHT give him the benefit of the doubt if I knew him in person and try to give him some red pill truths to test the waters, but I won't go blindly in trying to sa…
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 03:58 PM
1

Lol, thanks. Ironically, the real girl is putting on makeup that makes her look MORE like a doll than a real life woman. So goes to show sex dolls will be the new standard of beauty, not the other way around. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they could actually make a doll that looks like her. The ones available aren't that far off in realism at all.
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 03:48 PM
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Yes I've felt this way. I think it's actually a sign of intelligence. Because if you think about it, living an optimized life IS repetitive in nature. Your body needs a consistent healthy routine day in and day out. That alone will bring monotony to even the most disciplined. Perhaps a special case for me, I am really into bodybuilding and fitness so a healthy lifestyle doesn't always feel boring to me. But yes, after health it's basically accumulation of wealth. And so on. So everybody is faced…
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 03:31 PM
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Wtf that is the most realistic one I've seen. Seriously, at this level it doesn't even matter if it's fake I'd rather bang that than deal with entitled "I don't need no man" land whales.
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 03:19 PM
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Lol this some blue pill chit. You in the wrong sub
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 03:13 PM
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Yea I don't GAF about the world as a whole. I stopped GAF when I realized you are NOT rewarded for good behavior, but actually punished and stepped on at your lowest. They'll grind your face into the mud and pavement as you're left wondering what the hell you did wrong. Society DGAF about you and by brute red pill knowledge and neutral help, I pulled myself from the bottom of blue pill hell and into red pill domain where I DGAF about female emotions and was rewarded. When you're rewarded for bei…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 04:11 PM
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When I feel my life sucks, reading cringe like this makes me feel 1000x better. I thought I've seen it all, but the power of the cuck still amazes me.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 10:03 PM
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AWALT doesn't refer to only her nature. It refers to the powerful plantation powers that will make her one through overwhelming agenda advertising. With the advent of tech, there is almost no place on Earth where the AWALT forces can't penetrate.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 01:51 PM
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Women in first world countries are out of control. Femininity is dead. Seems like every girl is a feminist or a stone throw away from becoming one because of her friends. Look at how young feminism training begins. MGTOW has become the most logical avenue for a man.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 01:45 PM
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True. Even in my TRP days I always had the "bros before hoes" mentality. Got tired of getting fukked over by white knights and thirsty TRPs who will kick you to the curb for poosy. That's when I saw the distinction between MGTOWs and TRPs and gravitated away from TRP ideology. Had enough of putting poosy on the pedestal.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 01:35 PM
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Male shaming is the oldest and most used trick in the book. Why? Cause it works. Look at TRPs. Even they aren't immune to it. One-upping each other and still caring about how females feel towards them. We don't even have to talk about the blue pill robots. MGTOWs are the only group who legit DGAF about male shaming. They've simply had enough or see through the agenda of shaming. I've seen this played out time and time again.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 01:11 PM
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Chad in the making
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:07 AM
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I will say the MGTOW P&D crew have to constantly be wary. It's playing with fire. Also, there's a big difference between MGTOW P&D crew vs. TRP that's not often highlighted. MGTOW P&D crew has a vastly superior NGAF perspective than TRP. The MGTOW P&D crew when not interacting with females essentially turns to MGTOW monk mode. He legit DGAF and enjoys his solitude every bit as much. So rejection is barely a nip in the bud if that at all. If you still care about feelings or emotions with females …
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 07:22 AM
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At this point in my life, I do not desire companionship. The only thing that keeps a link between me & women is the possibility of children. Even then, I'm considering surrogacy before a relationship. My ideal would be to have a child or two via surrogacy and live the rest of my life raising them & a happy dog or two.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 05:36 PM
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I've completely lost interest in Western women. I used to have them as #1 in my younger years, but now that I place femininity high in my priority list they have completely plummeted to the bottom. Still AWALT, but whenever I'm in Western countries I basically go into automatic monk mode because I have no motivation or desire to fight the femininity decline.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 06:12 AM
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Confirmed. I know of a MGTOW who isn't on here simply because English is not his native language.
/r/MGTOW12/09/17 10:08 PM
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This idiot is aiming for maximum cuck levels. An embarrassment of a man and let's throw him out. From now on, there are men and there are cucks. The cuck camp will welcome him with open arms.
/r/MGTOW12/09/17 03:16 PM
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This is why the West is declining. Women are out of control and men are being pussified beyond belief. And the laws are reflecting just that.
/r/MGTOW12/09/17 03:05 PM
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YES! Great ending. Saved. You did it right brother and are reaping the fruits. Couldn't be any happier for you.
/r/MGTOW12/09/17 01:39 PM
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You fukkin lucked out. If you don't see this, you are an idiot.
/r/MGTOW12/09/17 01:16 PM
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"How do you dump a MGTOW?" "You don't."
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 09:55 PM
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Your focus now should be on taking care of yourself: Get healthy (drop the alcohol and bad habits...if your coping is severe, at least begin easing into a healthy routine). Get a good income flow. Don't bother with women at all or if you need to let loose do the common MGTOW methods (also, fapping technology is improving rapidly...some of the existing ones provide a way better experience than real). Do hobbies that you enjoy purely for its own sake. I guarantee you you will get back on track.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 09:46 PM
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I'd say the only thing you should watch out for is paying your own bills. After that, you can do whatever.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 03:58 PM
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PATHETIC.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 04:28 AM
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Truth sets you free. Being ignorant is basically a death sentence. Why? Facing the truth gives you an opportunity to change for the better. By remaining ignorant, you will never have this opportunity. Who is to say that this blue-pilled idiot could be on his death bed and then finds out his partner cheated on him years ago or whatever. And he spent all that time + resources on her. Objectively, he loses in every way. Whereas if he had known earlier, at least he would have had the chance to turn …
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 07:57 PM
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You're doing it right. Keep it up.
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 03:59 PM
2

Always glad to see a happy ending. Enjoy the rest of your life.
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 12:07 PM
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Gold. Saved and upvoted.
/r/MGTOW09/09/17 02:02 AM
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LOVE IS JUST CHEMICALS. DON'T BECOME FINANCIALLY OBLIGATED TO ANYONE. PROTECT YOUR OWN ASS. MGTOW. Thanks for listening.
/r/MGTOW01/09/17 05:37 AM
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Just 1 overarching rule for me: Don't become financially obligated to anyone. Why women play a primary role here is because of the male's natural biological drive. Financial obligation can come in the form of marriage or cohabitation. Marriage is self-explanatory. Cohabitation leads to increased risk of financial obligations.
/r/MGTOW01/09/17 05:30 AM
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I don't have sympathy for cases like this. She made her choice and literally died for it. She had ample time to reconsider. Girls who love extreme bad boys can dig their own graves, not my problem. Those girls didn't give a chit when you were nice so why would you give a chit when they come running back after self-chosen abuse? You're lucky she didn't drag you down with her.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 12:16 AM
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Agreed. Still got a good laugh out of it so upvoted and saved.
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 03:49 AM
1

Society views males as disposable. If society doesn't give a chit about you, you don't need to give a chit about them. Shaming & social conditioning are the tools used on a constant basis to keep you as a well-behaved beta. Be your own man & go your own way.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 04:04 AM
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Interesting, but I don't think it's even that complex. The ONLY reason women hold so much power and appear "mysterious" is because of the male need for sex. Simple economics: supply and demand. Remove the attractiveness of a woman and you'll see how mysterious a woman becomes (like anything else you have no sexual desire for). The mysteriousness is a blue pill creation to color fantasy over biological reality. A common human thing to do. Once I saw this, I never felt they were mysterious again. …
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 12:45 AM
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Another single mother statistic in the making.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 03:36 PM
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Another single mother statistic in the making.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 03:36 PM
1

This is a really good post. New guys can follow this.
/r/seduction11/08/17 10:39 AM
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If I can't go with one of my buddies (red pill only), I'll just go solo. It's just fine for me as I am used to being on my own. I don't get bored or lonely too easily. Last time I partied day and night and hollered at girls and made new guy friends and we hollered at girls together. Then I played videogames with new guy friends. Had a blast of a vacation.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 12:31 PM
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Go to where the girls are. (please don't tell me you are expecting to get good fast in a small town) This is the most important thing. Approach (solo or wings...get good at both) Review your game after the field. Repeat from 2. The rest will solve itself as long as you've done the above. Violate ANY of them at your own peril with plateaus & frustrations.
/r/seduction07/08/17 04:41 AM
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I used to get this when I kept my intentions murky with indirect openers & comments. Considering I open now by telling them they're cute, that goes right out the window. And I make sure to tell them I like them. Haven't heard this in years.
/r/seduction07/08/17 02:52 AM
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1) I go direct. "Hi, you're really cute..." That's as far as I plan. I don't care what happens next because that's out of my control. I've been through many situations that I'm comfortable with using this opener in a variety of situations. As a heavy user of headphones (love getting energized to music I like), I know what goes through the mind. There are times I actually don't mind being approached and am in a social mood, but I like vibing to music so I still put on the headphones. Similar to t…
/r/seduction07/08/17 02:42 AM
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Gradually. More kino. More direct statements (you are cute). In a way, it is a shedding. To communicate with her in a primal manner. When your learning wheels fall off, you'll feel like you're simply a guy who wants her and will put himself on the line to let her know. That confidence gets to them so when you get positives, they are strong. Sure the rejections are harsher, but by that point you've been through so many you've become accustomed to it. Blowouts just roll off your back.
/r/seduction07/08/17 02:15 AM
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This. The field is so rich with variety that you can't exhaust it all unless you're simply satisfied with where you're at. There's always a new batch of young and attractive girls coming up.
/r/seduction07/08/17 02:10 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction07/08/17 12:52 AM
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Heres my tips from someone who does this regularly. Expect rejection / blowout. If you can truly see this for yourself, a huge chunk of AA will become manageable. A lot of guys starting out get intimidated by particularly attractive women. I use a blitzkrieg method: purposely approach them for a blowout. You will find its not always a blowout. Then you can start your game. But you need to get over the initial hurdle of pedestalizing them. Or any girl for that matter. There is a zen to approachin…
/r/seduction07/08/17 12:15 AM
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No because I know my value and theirs. I know if they're overstepping and trying to use shaming for their agenda. I find it amusing.
/r/seduction07/08/17 12:00 AM
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This stuff is HARD. That's like going to the gym and expecting to look like those monsters if you're just starting. Enjoy your improvement and disregard negativity. One day you'll wake up and be highly improved.
/r/seduction04/08/17 10:00 AM
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Look, if you don't think it works for you then don't use it. I personally find it quite liberating & am able to maintain progress while utilizing it. If you find that this approach is too lackadaisical for your preference, then continue your way.
/r/seduction04/08/17 08:41 AM
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I think you're in the wrong sub...
/r/seduction04/08/17 05:31 AM
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Ok
/r/seduction04/08/17 03:39 AM
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shut up & bang her.
/r/seduction04/08/17 03:31 AM
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"lets bang" serious..if u can text that watch your text game skyrocket the key is not that it will work (likely won't, BUT it still can), but you are learning to NGAF NGAF is a key component of the "soul" of game. Without it, you'll always have to rely on outer game techniques to fill in the gaps. With it, you can completely express from internally and you'll do hilarious stuff that can advance you in the game simultaneously. What prevents most guys from learning to NGAF sooner is the fear of "l…
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:31 AM
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kinda guy, so I look at situations like this quite humorously. Bros before hos kinda thing even tho you coworker may not necessarily be a bro. But my point is he didn't really do anything too bad to ruin the interaction. Also, trying to get a girl out in such a Try to get her out on your own schedule..just don't have any expectations. Really, the thing that f**s most guys up in learning game is themselves cause they care TOO much about chit they can't control. She could have some life chit going…
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:16 AM
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It's not that srs if you're focused on getting better & not just getting the girl. Subtle, but big distinction. I'm more of a bro kinda guy, so I look at situations like this quite humorously. Bros before hos kinda thing even tho you coworker may not necessarily be a bro. But my point is he didn't really do anything too bad to ruin the interaction. Also, trying to get a girl out in such a long time frame is already weakening the seduction link. The girl was not that hot on the iron to begin with…
/r/seduction04/08/17 01:55 AM
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Saved.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 12:28 PM
1

They're idiots.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 08:22 AM
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Modern women are walking advertisements for MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 08:17 AM
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Learn to be on your own. Even though help surrounds you, TRAIN yourself to take the harder path. Why? It'll all make sense once you go into the working world. You won't be surrounded by women or frat bros who can introduce you to women. However, join the frat if you can. It's good for potential business relationships. Think of making a good impression to your frat bros as self-improvement. They are encouraging positives (higher GPA). If they weren't, I'd tell them to f** off. In other words, han…
/r/seduction03/08/17 08:00 AM
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I'm more amused by the downvotes. Is this some attempt to portray your "gentleman"-like attitude towards women? I'm talking about game, not manners. If you think good game is being polite or stepping your toes around women, you're quite out of tune. I actually don't employ these tactics recklessly, but I know from experience being a sleazy guy with strong intent will get you farther than some too-cool-for-school guy. Any guy who doesn't see this is still stuck in the fantasy of being a "gentlema…
/r/seduction03/08/17 07:25 AM
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As forward as you want When I'm lazy, I invite her right over for "movie" I get massive blowouts or ignores, but the numbers game works in your favor sooner or later The funny thing is my game gets sloppier & sloppier every year, but I'm getting better feedback from women
/r/seduction03/08/17 07:16 AM
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Public speaking. I began it & enjoyed it from a young age. I still have room for improvement, but I wanted to face down the challenge long before I knew about pickup. I actually still sucked really badly at pickup when I was decent at PS. It's not until I got a baseline of overcoming AA & now combined with PS that I can approach the hard sets & NGAF. In PS, you can be heckled & murmured or laughed at. Having gone through all that & survived and gotten compliments on your speech, it really makes …
/r/seduction03/08/17 07:04 AM
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Start off small. Just asking time or whatnot. Even then you'll meet some girls in a bad mood, but how badly can they reject you for that? I must have done this over a hundred times such that rejection just starts to blur & you eventually become numb to it. That's when you know you're overcoming AA. When you EXPECT rejection and are surprised when you don't get it. I go into every set expecting some form of rejection whether the girl is in a bad mood or too shy. Sometimes you get the bambi-eyes o…
/r/seduction03/08/17 06:56 AM
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Congratulations! Welcome to pickup. This is NORMAL. Let me give you perspective. I've gotten success from the game before YET I STILL encounter situations like this. What does that tell you? That IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. Rejection, in whatever form, IS PART OF THE PROCESS. Internalizing this will help your game TREMENDOUSLY. Even Owen + Julien still get rejected and they've been doing game for over a decade. If you don't internalize this, you will hit a ceiling no doubt about it. It's so obviou…
/r/seduction03/08/17 06:46 AM
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Forget winning the group. Talk to the girl you like & at best acknowledge the group. Believe me, you can overdo the "winning the group". I once opened a 5 or 6-set group of tall UK blondes by opening one girl & ended up talking to the whole set. Yeah it was fun, but it doesn't really allow you to plow through on your target. I'd rather get blown out these days than waste time winning the group & acting like a clown. Don't be a disrespectful a-hole, but keep it cool & don't get carried away with …
/r/seduction03/08/17 06:41 AM
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Hasn't been a problem for me. I realized quite fast that anything less than sex with a woman is simply friend zone. And I've been in the friend zone with many women for decades. I have strong passions outside of women that I don't feel bored or lonely without one. Intimacy is not a selling point for a practical man like me considering the tradeoffs.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 12:27 AM
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"I want you" I'll repeat it and stand up in her grill. Let her know I'm serious. If you think I started off this way, you'd be crazy. I was a heavy overthinker. So why would I do this "crude" method despite having done a ton of indirect & seemingly more sophisticated methods? Cause it works. Use some training wheels with more "sophisticated" methods, but as you advance you'll realize girls want it down & dirty.
/r/seduction02/08/17 08:08 AM
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Congratulations you are a normal healthy male. Don't feel ashamed and game if you need to. Fap if it gets excessive and starts interfering with your work. Don't let girls sabotage your living. Just realize this is the peak of your testosterone. You'll wonder in older age if you'll ever get it back again. Enjoy it while it lasts and channel it into productivity like career and approaching all these girls.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:59 PM
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Search my post just a few posts above.
/r/seduction31/07/17 07:55 AM
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The second you think any girl is special is the second your game starts plummeting.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:38 AM
1

Perfect opener. Do it. She may be hesitant at first. Just chit chat & ask again later & get it. You got dis man.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:36 AM
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I've tried it all on the open. Indirect, direct, etc. I keep it simple. "Hi you're cute..." That's it. EVERY girl. I don't care what she looks like (if I'm practicing I'll approach practically any girl..if I'm scouting I'll approach better looking girls). I don't change my game for any girl. That's BAD game. It will do a number on your inner game, believe me. Having 1 game for all girls is a sign of good game. If you calibrate from this mindset, you'll do much better than if you calibrate from a…
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:31 AM
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And this.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:25 AM
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This.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:24 AM
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THIS is exactly why I take a process-oriented approach to pickup. Many guys I know get into pickup to get that ONE girl. To get that special girl. That one they can't stop thinking about. A process-oriented guy looks at all that & laughs. He's lost so many girls to the learning process that most guys would be shocked at why he would do so. Because a process-oriented guy knows that the moment you focus on the girl instead of the process, your game dives. This is KEY to maintaining & improving on …
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:20 AM
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Here's a good method for overthinkers (I was one & I did this to improve): Set numerical goals. Ex: I will open 1 girl today before I go home. You don't even have to conversate. Just open & leave. Get used to doing that consistently then start adding conversation to your skillset. Simple, right? It's that simple. Don't overcomplicate the learning process. Take your time to master the basics and pile new things on top of that systematically. Then low & behold, your skillset has improved.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:11 AM
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Being able to deal with rejection in a progressive manner is the KEY to getting good at game. I don't care how terrible you are with women. A guy who has a good attitude when it comes to rejection will level up FAST in game. Good post OP. Saved.
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:07 AM
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start from the beginning approach show strong interest If you can do 1 & 2 in a consistent manner, you'd eliminate a ton of inner game issues. You're already tripping up with these 2 so make an effort to get out there and work directly on these 2. Not showing interest is OK for learning, but when you get more adept you will drop that real quick as you realize how inefficient it is. Guys like to hate on "sleazy" or "creepy" game..but when you see for yourself how it cuts through a lot of BS, you'…
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:00 AM
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Rejection is irrelevant. Taking action is what makes you better. As long as I'm taking action in the right direction, I give myself mad props. I've been through so many rejections I can't remember faces or names. Get here and you will realize how amusing rejection can be. It is also super liberating. Go out & have fun. Open without proceeding. Get that fun vibe. Then you will open later on from the right state of mind. Remember that state of mind and channel it whenever you need it. Now you have…
/r/seduction31/07/17 01:39 AM
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Do it for the lolz. I don't take girls seriously. Lol at telling them your feelings. They DGAF.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:59 AM
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I would have gauged a little after she said yes and if it looked like she was srs (most likely is) I'd just give them a short compliment and leave. No trouble and things are cool.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:55 AM
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Pat yourself on the back. The problem is you are too hard on yourself. Once you relax more and enjoy the little victories, girls will feel your fun vibe and you'll get better reactions. Funny thing. I been through that too and going solo is already good.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:47 AM
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Do my brain-dead easy program
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:42 AM
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I hated it too but once you get past approach anxiety (by getting rejected so much you forget faces and names lol), it becomes massively fun That fun can be yours now, but your brain needs the experiences that rejection doesn't really matter I've had good reactions from attractive girls before approaching and then started getting rejected by worse looking ones and I was like wtf But I focused on the process and now when I approach I can bat at the higher end with more consistency That's what col…
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:33 AM
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Sounds like u jumped the gun a bit far in your learning I actually for a long period simply approached without reading any PUA material as I was more interested in seeing what it was like from my own viewpoint Start from the basics. Just ask for the location of someplace or time then LEAVE. Do not continue if you get a positive response. This will train your discipline. Do just 1 of this per week for brain-dead easy program. Up that if you can already do 1 per week. If you still can't do this br…
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:27 AM
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Drop the ego - yea you and I both may feel we beat other guys on paper but without taking action when it counts, don't justify to yourself you deserve those women you like I dropped my ego even tho I was at the peak of my health & fitness and I sucked with approaching at first, but I was able to overcome this hurdle by simply approaching and adjusting..rather than thinking I'm some great guy that the girl should automatically know about Also, the warm approach is good when learning initially. I …
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:18 AM
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The only thing wrong is thinking about it. If you pushed the interaction to the limit upon the meet and in your texts, forget about her. Saves time and energy.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:11 AM
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Not every girl will care about fitness the same. However, it is still in every guy's best interest to optimize health & fitness. So I do agree with OP, but my previous post was just to point out it's still insufficient in my case. The statistics are higher the guy can land more attractive women all things considered with improved health & fitness. I've met attractive girls who don't care and consequently those who do. I'd rather have it optimized than not.
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:08 AM
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I've opened girls who I suspected was with their bfs, but I couldn't be sure so I approached her. It turned out she was and nothing happened she just pointed to her bf in a shocked expression & I was like "oh cool!" with a smile and went on to my next set. That's all that happened. Use your judgment (don't blindly approach every tough set), but also challenge yourself. What may help is think of opening the girl for sales rather than pickup. Then when you get negative reactions it is like an angr…
/r/seduction30/07/17 08:47 AM
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View it as a journey. Like bodybuilding. In fact, bodybuilding is a prime example of what seduction is like. You're not gonna craft a good body with a few half-assed attempts. Just like seduction you're not gonna get good if you don't have a long-term idea. In fact, most guys SHOULDN'T do seduction for the long haul. Because it's not what they REALLY want. It sounds exciting and cool to do "pickup" initially, but sooner or later the real you will likely reveal that you really want a gf, long-ter…
/r/seduction30/07/17 08:42 AM
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You're in high school Be patient, you're still young and most likely lack life experience. When I was coming up in the game, I used to worry about how to open too. Now I just go & say whatever on the spot. This can work even better because you're opening with authenticity. If this is too advanced for you, continue with innocent openers as others have mentioned. But when you get farther into game, really you stop caring how to open because it is really minor in the big picture.
/r/seduction30/07/17 08:35 AM
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My working out is on point. Like from my looks alone, I can attract girls on the higher end of the spectrum. However, I do wanna add that I still need to put in effort to get girls. I'm not gonna get into the dumb argument of you shouldn't have to put in ANY effort if you're a truly 10/10 Chad. So for me, working out is awesome (definitely helps attract girls), but it is insufficient if you want to have consistent results. You may get lucky here and there with weak work ethic, but if you want to…
/r/seduction30/07/17 08:26 AM
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-Don't take anything personal since talking to strangers is a skill and if you haven't done it in a while it would be delusional to think you can just get used to it instantaneously. -Even when I'm in a constant state of talking to people, I STILL don't expect positive reactions...in fact, the biggest sticking point for most guys is expecting positive reactions. Simply just talk and see what happens. I apply this to everyone I talk to and expect nothing. Even rudeness does not surprise me. -Hone…
/r/seduction30/07/17 08:21 AM
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There is no rejection in MGTOW. Only bullet dodged.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 04:16 AM
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You are LUCKY. She did you a FAVOR by acting out so early and not getting all the goods she could of got out of you. Seriously, I wouldn't get too down. She actually SAVED you from years of worse treatment, especially after she sucked all the resources out of you. What you've experienced is heaven compared to the depths of hell you will experience had you continued with her. Her behavior is dysfunctional as fuk so don't deal with that BS if you have self-respect. Let me say again: you are LUCKY …
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 09:27 PM
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I am. While 200k+ is a high amount, it beats the alternative. Any MGTOWs who've done this?
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 04:24 PM
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It is great power because it is knowledge from the roots of reality. Still amazes me some guys don't see it. Younger kids have an excuse, but grown men still espousing BP BS? Don't get it. I have a strong grounding in scientific education and this allows me to see MGTOW at the fundamental level. I don't blindly avoid blue pill or red pill tendencies because some more experienced man told me to. I can deduce female behavior from scientific groundings thereby seeing traps coming before they even a…
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 10:53 PM
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One of the stupidest blue pills ever to have lived. Another strong contender for Darwin award straight out of the blue pill camp. Blue pill camp never disappoints in producing elite Darwin winners.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:07 PM
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MGTOW doesn't mean you have to do anything besides not giving a chit about impressing females. It is simply a deep understanding of society that enables you to see traps far in advance. You can completely let yourself go or strengthen yourself with this knowledge and MGTOW doesn't judge. However, the world operates via physical laws so by completely disregarding your health you will feel the consequences regardless if you are BP, RP, or MGTOW. You determine how much you want to improve yourself …
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 09:43 PM
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Legit. Unicorn was right in front of our eyes brothers.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 03:22 PM
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Logic.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 06:37 AM
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You are exactly on the mark. The good news is you've hit the fundamental despair that everything seems pointless. Starting from a base of reality, you can now move fwd armed with this knowledge. How to leverage it to make life better? Self improvement is one way. I've embraced self improvement pre-MGTOW and MGTOW only sharpened my knowledge and senses. I felt despair initially, but if you climb back up after the fall you’ll be able to tackle the pillars of life (health, $, etc.) with new tools. …
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 01:05 PM
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My personal reason is I know my mobility has an age limit and I'd rather get it all done than have any regrets. Quite logical. Organize your life based on age possibilities and you'll be able to achieve what you want. Violate it and there's nothing left but acceptance. Travel is not for everyone, but if you're not sure give it a shot and the reason may manifest.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 12:58 PM
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The first red flag is not seeing any. That's when you know you're already dipping into fantasy land.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 02:21 AM
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Focus on goals If you're into self improvement, it would be mental strength, health, $, etc. When you're focused on leveling up yourself, it really doesn't matter wtf others think about u
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 12:21 AM
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Translation: Who hurt you? = Who made you so smart that you have left the plantation?
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 12:15 AM
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This is a normal feeling. Sounds like you're still in some anger phase as you still have a conflict of wanting to change the world. I've simply stopped caring so I just get clear on what I want and take care of my bubble of influence (health, wealth, etc.). I've made peace with the fact that I don't care if I die and nobody knows or remembers me. It doesn't mean it wouldn't be cool to accomplish something big, but not giving a chit has opened up my mind to focus on executing the process of impro…
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 01:15 PM
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Good. Good. Let the hate burn. This was your first major dose of reality. It's a bitter pill to swallow at first. But I remember taking that chit and kept ingesting pill after pill until I got a clear picture of gender dynamics. Now I am immune to erratic female behavior. I truly do not give a chit about cheating, jealousy, etc. because I don't emotionally invest in any girl and simply focus on personal goals. They come and go..it doesn't affect my path. This experience can make you stronger. Do…
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 04:35 AM
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Simply gain a solid understanding of biology Realize "love" is simply a mixture of chemicals bubbling in your brain..and Hollywood propaganda and most people love to escape into fantasy and believe it's something more This would be fine if society wasn't so increasingly gynocentric You CAN get to a point where you don't feel any need for connection with a female..it sounds terrible in your waters still muddled with blue pill but at that stage I'm talking about your clarity is so strong you wonde…
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 08:23 AM
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Amazes me how cucked some guys are. You can tell from the words guys use to describe women how cucked they are. Anything remotely justifying feelings is a dead give away the guy is still in cuck land.
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 02:09 AM
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You're still 26. Time is still on your side. Don't make the same mistake again and dedicate yourself to self-improvement. You will rock chit in your 30s. You'll be fine as long as you don't go down the simp road again.
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 01:59 AM
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This is why MGTOW is on some next level chit. You will NEVER see TRPs saying to employ these tactics because they can't fathom the idea of dropping poosy. Purposely sabotaging poosy is unheard of in the TRP world. The MGTOW meta-level is simply on another level.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 06:21 AM
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Saved.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 09:09 AM
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I stated AWALT 2x in my post. If that isn't clear enough, then I'm done clarifying. Clearly, some "MGTOWs" aren't as bright as they think they are. The rest of my observations still holds. And frankly, if MGTOW is going in the direction of silly one-upmanship insults to convey their point, I'll probably GMOW from that too.
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 02:41 AM
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Another troll. Also, nice assumption. Guys IRL wouldn't even know I was MGTOW because I can talk the TRP lingo and know the deal with picking up women. I wouldn't even mention the stuff I say here to TRPs because I know how they think and know they cannot comprehend the level of realness that MGTOWs operate on. I just play dumb and say stuff like, "yea bro just hold frame bro! Haha that dude’s a loser cause he can't even get women in his own country". Cost-benefit not even once.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 04:00 PM
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IMO, Japan is a different beast than other Asian countries. They are more fantasy/anime world-driven than MGTOW motivated. Their entertainment options are developed and their culture is such a way that you can essentially exist in a virtual world without appearing strange. Not hating, just observations. Similar actions, but different motivations.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 03:54 PM
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It is gynocentric and becoming more prevalent. That is why I said they have "yet" to violate the cost-benefit as badly as Western women have. It's going in that direction and my AWALT radar is still finely tuned.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 03:48 PM
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What is with these trolls infiltrating MGTOW lately.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 03:46 PM
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Nailed it. Even the wise among us are decent enough to know that at least if they made an effort, we'd let some stuff slide. Now there is absolutely no sympathy. They took our kindness for weakness and trampled all over us at our lowest. Let them reap what they sowed. We're gone.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 03:41 PM
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No problem, man. Thanks for your feedback.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 01:16 PM
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That's what I mean when I say "feminine". Replace it with that and you should see we are on a similar wavelength.
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 01:13 PM
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Been there, done that too. I got burned so I wised up real quick and stopped actively helping other men. I am cautious today about who I help and let the relationship develop naturally before I dispel any advanced MGTOW ideas. At this point, I don't mind either way. I can't help men to see it unless they're ready. In the meantime, I'm content with hitting the gym and enjoying my videogames.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 05:19 AM
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Thanks for sharing. That was a really well written piece and it is insightful to read how a fellow man reached MGTOW. What's interesting is it's very different from mine. I was burned too, but nowhere near as bad as your story. At the time though, I felt incredible red pill rage and not knowinng about it then directed all my energies to my own success (winning coincidence). Even as I was a developing TRP, I was instinctively drawn to the more "advanced" material like being able to walk away from…
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 04:05 PM
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Now imagine installing those dependencies without a network connection. Manual dependency installs. Feel the pain.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 12:56 AM
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Deluded TRP. I hit the gym regularly with discipline and still can't hold a candle to the attention attractive females get who do a few workout motions here and there and look good enough to get slobbering attention. As a male you are disposable and invisible unless you gain money or status or aesthetics (starting with good genetics). The amount of work + brains necessary to level up in those arenas is monstrous for anyone lesser than Type A obsessive personalities. I’ve had successes but to pre…
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 12:25 AM
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More power to you. I really don't care what category I'm in. I just optimize my tools and let the cards fall. But the notion that MGTOWs are incels is ridiculous when I know it's far from the truth in my case. Also, I am more than content with my ability to get girls. Could I improve? Are there others better? Yea. But it's not my priority now and even talking about comparing girl-getting abilities hurts my head. I prefer focusing on other things.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 11:29 AM
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Speak for yourself. I'm a MGTOW Chad. I don't like using the term, but I'll bring it out to counter this notion that all MGTOWs are incels. I have girls initiating convos on the regular and I have ghosted many girls (even attractive and in their prime). Why MGTOW? Because I am dedicated to life goals that I am averse to compromise on and also cost-benefit. Acquiring currency takes a large part of my time so I am hitting the books or hitting up clients. I don't care about getting rejected and kno…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 11:05 AM
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More power to you brother. I'm a MGTOW, but lack the motivation to be MRA. I see the value in what MRAs are doing though. More power to you.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 01:44 PM
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Great insight, especially the last part. Upvoted.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 01:29 PM
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No good "hi" to a female goes unpunished.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 06:53 AM
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You haven't seen how miserable your life will become given enough time invested in this relationship. That tingling honeymoon feeling ALWAYS subsides later. And when it does, you'll see why MGTOWs are able to do what we do. MGTOWs essentially time jump to that point in every relationship and can see all the barrage of BS you'll be stuck dealing with regardless of how "alpha" you think you are. Just look at the bottomline. You are driven by biological urges. Don't mistake that for "love". Study t…
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 01:41 AM
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As far as I can foresee, none. I've gone so deep into the rabbit hole I can't imagine myself wanting to ever co-habitate with a woman (caretaker at old age is a different situation). I don't care how perfect she is. I simply am beyond caring and analyzing what kind of woman will make a "good" partner. The numbers in a cost-benefit analysis simply don't add up. Until they do, MAYBE I'll reconsider. At the current rate, the cost-benefit is only getting worse and it'll take a social revolution for …
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 04:05 PM
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Right up your alley bro. Got a PS4 recently too. Had the option of chasing tail, but instead I invested my hours in lots of Doom + gym. Still investing those hours the same way. Also stackin' cash so I can travel. Investing in yourself never felt better.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 03:59 PM
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Once you're MGTOW you're free. Whether that means hedonism or minimalism or a hybrid is up to you. Good for sharing your thoughts though. I've went through the same thought process and enjoyed coming up with a personalized lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 08:10 AM
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Brilliant video. Listened to the whole thing, repeated, and put it on my phone. Well-spoken and solid insights. Other videos look good too based on a preview. This is an evolution in MGTOW YT quality. Highly recommended. Thank you for the post, upvoted.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 04:25 PM
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Yes, men attracted to looks and females attracted to resources. It's just biological nature. The problem we have is a social one, not biological though. The laws and white knight patheticness don't hold women accountable at all. Hence, we have lack of values in modern age. Then again, I'm past the point of caring so I DGAF what happens to society at large (still am respectful to those around me who are respectful back).
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 03:36 PM
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Upvoted for making too much sense. However, change is highly unlikely to come without collective effort by men. Therefore, nothing will change and I'll stay MGTOW and out of drama's way. Still, good point.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 03:24 PM
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Strong Darwin contender
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 02:25 AM
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I originally didn't get all the hoopla about this movie (figured red pill stuff should be common sense after enough logic acquired) On its own merits as a documentary, I enjoyed it I'm not motivated to want to change society tho (otherwise I'd be working on future changing stuff like Elon's doing) So I prob. won't be out there heavily promoting any MGTOW or related stuff (my posts will have to do)
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 01:47 AM
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Impressive MGTOW wisdom & abilities at this young age.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 03:29 AM
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Don't date Have had women ask me out I stay focused on my life goals No loneliness felt
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 01:25 AM
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It's like literally reading a nightmare come to life. This guy is selling himself short in virtually every way. Not my business, but I'm really glad I'm not in his position. Goes to show you can be a Chad, but without MGTOW logic you leave potential wasted.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 01:35 PM
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Ghosting should eventually not hurt at all when you go MGTOW. Reason is simple: you go right back to your life as if nothing interfered. If she's down, you continue. If not, who cares I can hit the gym or chainsaw some demons in peace. I've been ghosted a bunch of times and by the end I legit DGAF and can still sleep like a baby.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 02:03 AM
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In this day and age, this is a fruitless exercise. There is no stopping the destructive beliefs of gynocentrism. Best she can do is not try to ruin a man's life via gynocentric laws and shaming. Doubt it will happen tho. She'll just be herded into the pack like the rest.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 02:13 AM
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Well said. Something always felt off about TRP for me. I got pretty good, but felt like the hamster on the wheel having to do the same old routine and while I gave off the vibe of NGAF, I was still "calibrating" to female reactions. Then MGTOW came and completely destroyed any type of frame holding. I'll purposely break frame for my own amusement or ignore women as I see fit. THIS is real NGAF and freedom. MGTOW is simply a deeper meta-level in the mind that TRP cannot see unless he awakens.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 01:20 PM
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First of all, you have your whole life ahead of you. Your potential is great if you maintain the MGTOW path. You may dabble in TRP to better understand female dynamics and since you're still young you'll prob be drawn somewhat towards TRP. In any case, sooner or later start applying cost-benefit analysis to everything. You'll find why men get drawn to MGTOW over TRP. You are on the right path. If you do MGTOW right, you can really create a healthy and free future for yourself. The major mistakes…
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 12:26 PM
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TRP can be a stepping stone to MGTOW for many. However, many more remain stuck in TRP at best. There is a CLEAR discrepancy and yes, MGTOW is lightyears ahead of TRP. No matter how you twist it, TRP ALWAYS does something for women in mind. A TRP and MGTOW may go to the gym, but for very different reasons. The TRP focuses on enhancing SMV whereas a MGTOW DGAF about that and goes for health or dopamine benefits. A MGTOW could not care less if a gym bunny was working out right next to him giving hi…
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 02:35 AM
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Laws surrounding it are outdated. Hence, it's outdated. I'm onto the new thing: MGTOW
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 02:27 PM
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The way I see it you're just delaying the inevitable. You either die a blue pill or live long enough to see the truth. Once I took my first dose of red pills, I was hooked and determined to see the truth and not let emotions cloud my judgment again. I had no idea where it would lead and left it very open, even accepting the possibility blue pill may be where the path leads. It was this determination to see the truth regardless of uncomfortableness that lead me to MGTOW. I never heard of it, but …
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 12:17 PM
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That's female nature I don't even bother analyzing women anymore I just do what I want and they can take it or leave it I'll break frame bruh if I feel like it IDGAF (I still lift tho for health and dopamine reasons)
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 06:40 AM
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There is a clear discrepancy between TRP and MGTOW. You can especially see this as a MGTOW. TRP no matter how good he gets at ngaf when dealing with women, will never reach the mental level of a MGTOW. Because he will always be in a "Lift and hold frame, bruh!" mindset in order to appeal to women. A MGTOW truly dgaf about women. He has sex or not, it doesn't matter because he does not place his validation on this benchmark. A MGTOW could have way more sex than a TRP and not feel the need to boas…
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 04:23 AM
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Beta cucks ruin everything
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 04:04 PM
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In addition, we really don't need to worry about blue pillers They are highly predictable and you can detect one from miles away when you are awoke They will happily slave away for the plantation and as long as we keep a healthy distance from their puppet manipulations (from their puppet master: women), we can avoid drama
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 09:21 AM
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Hence why I mentioned educated men Not book educated but awakened educated
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 09:16 AM
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Focus on your goals If you do it right you won't even have time to acknowledge them trying to bully you When success comes, they will barely register if at all in your thoughts
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 04:26 AM
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Agreed altho the development will be gradual. The information age has unleashed a behemoth that can't be reeled in. The cat is out of the bag for women thanks to feminism and now the info. is available to all. Previously a man could have been on the edge and lacked access to such knowledge thereby continuing a string of blue pill tragedies knowing no other option. Now we see young kids awakening. I, for one, could have been reeled back into the blue pill, but with knowledge pools such as this su…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 07:55 AM
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Exactly this
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 03:07 AM
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LEGIT
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 02:42 PM
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In the words of rapper T.I.: "Put my money over b*****s , put my hustle over all."
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 01:14 AM
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To give perspective, imagine losing your freedom. You will know yourself very well quickly once you lose it. And see how getting laid just may not be the best thing for your life.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 01:08 AM
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Good points, but don't really agree with the having to get laid part for every guy. I'm no forever monk mode (altho I can do long spurts) but when you are progressing in your interests outside of sex, getting laid isn't a must. This is hard to understand for most young men, but the bottom line there is no shame in not wanting to get laid.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 01:06 AM
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He is living in HELL Once you've awakened deep enough, this all looks like pure insanity
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 05:02 AM
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I don't have this problem. So I just want to get it across that MGTOW does not have to be an exercise in struggle. I am happier as a MGTOW than as a blue or red pill. I can also get more women as a MGTOW if I wanted to since I don't gaf and don't have social hangups. But with the freedom that comes with MGTOW I happily dedicate my focus and time on personal goals such as exercise. As a result, I don't feel lonely nor have cravings for companionship. Essentially, the MGTOW life is not a struggle …
/r/MGTOW25/03/17 08:13 AM
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I couldn't care less if I got that kind of reaction from women these days. It's not something I've encountered recently, but I could see myself doing something similar just to be nice for business purposes. I'd reply with a happy OK! and mean it if she put me in the friendzone. Saves me the work.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 03:20 AM
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No and I don't plan to Any kind of female relationship where I have to put in additional effort I simply let it slide My tolerance for putting in effort has essentially gone down to zero so unless she's putting in the effort, nothing will most likely materialize and we'll remain platonic
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 07:59 AM
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I don't even see it as "game" anymore It is simply a biological mechanism that dictates your behavior to impress a female The "game" is simply in your head It is a series of movements from one female to the next in which you use your communication functions to persuade her brain chemicals to align in a configuration suitable for sex How to fix it? Simply walk away instead of communicating with the female
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 07:25 AM
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This There are certain mechanisms in how life works (health is important and affects everything) but how you fill it is up to you and your particular circumstances
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 02:24 AM
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You know, when you first take the red pill you think you are almost a bit radical in thought for not wanting marriage Having seen enough from the collective wisdom of men, I now find it rather ODD that men are still wanting to marry Men can make great business decisions yet fall to the worst business decision of their life There are no benefits to marriage these days
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 07:08 PM
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No it's the right one
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 03:47 PM
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In my red pill days (don't bother chasing women now), here's how I avoid being ghosted: pursuing my goals Often I don't care if they ghost me because I know exactly how to fill up my time if the meets don't line up More often than not, I end up ghosting them cause I can't skip my workout for dedication purposes
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 12:59 AM
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You are still brainwashed. Still weaned on Disney and media fantasies. It's like emotional terrorism. You somehow still believe you are noble or a better guy because you have feelings for a girl you think is NAWALT. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:43 AM
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Just find something you want to master Fitness is one of mine and is a gift that keeps on giving Also, life works in priorities so know thyself well and master your priorities Not easy of course, but simple
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 01:49 AM
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Those kinds of guys don't even phase me anymore If one-upmanship like this happens to me I just smile casually and the Neanderthal ape is thrown off in confusion by a RARE man who really dgaf He is unsure what to do next so has to find a new target because no amount of shaming is gonna change this MGTOW to "I'll show you I gets the poosy bro!" mode. Red pill will never beat MGTOW in terms of freedom
/r/MGTOW14/03/17 04:01 PM
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More men are waking up already While some are blue-pilled beyond saving, some are still salvageable The Internet has done great wonders to help spread wisdom of men all over the world I have avoided many lethal traps to my freedom by taking daily doses of reality from collectives such as this sub Life completely changes once you get over female worship You can see traps from a mile away and no female has any romantic leverage over you...you simply walk away and these women can sense it They trea…
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 04:25 PM
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Delusion is the last resort when your brain interprets current reality as being too far from a future goal Not willing to put in the work, the delusional person then spends the rest of the time vehemently defending an illusion rather than adapting See more on the Discovery Channel
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 04:00 PM
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I've dated girls in their prime who look way better than her and treated me like a king even tho I barely put any effort Uh...why the FUK would I even consider her? LMAO these women really are delusional
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 03:40 AM
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This Having been through the hell of a bad relationship (though nothing compared to the depths of extreme hell of some other men), I just scoff at myself for even remotely feeling lonely One does not truly see the value of freedom until you have lost it Loss of freedom is way worse than loneliness for me
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 03:12 AM
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Modern marriage is a scam Women less feminine than ever Women more entitled than ever Women more high maintenance than ever Society more gynocentric than ever Save your hard-earned $ and GYOW unless you want to abandon logic
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 07:59 AM
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A woman wants... Who cares I'm MGTOW
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 12:12 PM
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Freedom.
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 04:02 AM
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They definitely do The interesting thing about the Chinese is that both men and women are EXTREMELY money conscious from a young age The materialism of Chinese women is way more extreme and beyond anything I've seen from Western women (definitely do not be fooled by the foreign women are better BS here) Yet, I've seen Chinese men be seemingly alpha as fuk right before settling down and STILL choose to lock up with a woman It comes down to traditions and "face" and family pressure The trend is go…
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 03:31 AM
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For what it's worth, I'm a Chad MGTOW who came about MGTOW by experience + self-analysis (no blindly following without understanding) Reason I bring it up is not to e-brag but to get it out there that certainly NOT all MGTOWs are bitter incels or things like that I still get plenty of attention from women now that I have to voluntarily put myself in the friendzone (from women I may have dated when I was still red pill) MGTOW can be reached through experience + logic In fact, because I did it thr…
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 12:29 AM
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I'm not a "natural" Chad Worked my way through the trenches playing that "Just hold frame bro!" game for a long time At the peak of my red pill, I essentially had my pick of the lot with females Then logic kicked in and I realized I was spending an inordinate amount of time + resources on chasing women, when I could be stacking paper and avoiding all the drama and dating games Been MGTOW since and have been able to forgo relationships altogether Career better than ever and I enjoy my videogame +…
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 05:32 PM
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Friendzoned even at age 86. There is no mercy
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 12:49 PM
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You've just gotta say, "Fuk it, I'm going MOW."
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 04:59 AM
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The game is rigged from the very beginning Avoid the game, live your life MGTOW
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 03:37 PM
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Another beta brainwashed beyond belief
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 02:43 PM
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It doesn't bother me in my case. Majority of them stay out of my way and I can even learn some good business tools from them. I just put in a good day's work and leave it at that. Unless she goes way out of her way to affect my life (hasn't happened), I'm pretty immune to shaming effects or whatever if it comes to be. I'm there for the dollars and I'm not gonna let some bishy or bratty behavior stop me from that. Smile and wave Or Smile and walk away.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 10:48 AM
3

I came about MGTOW through the trenches: Red pill (Chad lyfe) -> MGTOW So I had more than enough options and with women I liked (meaning they are attractive in a general sense), but using my mind I did a simple cost-benefit analysis and realized all those efforts of continually going out and hollering at girls was by far not the most efficient use of my time. I want FREEDOM from the plantation and spending my resources on women was only furthering my chains to the plantation.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 01:26 AM
10

Too much work for too little reward. I'd rather fap.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 11:12 AM
8

It's all in your head. That's all that needs to be said.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 01:02 PM
2

For some reason, the realization didn't traumatize me as much as for some others A part of me is like an intensely curious cat...I always wanted to know what was the most extreme or limits of something The scariest horror movies (I dunno why I do this lol), the best at something, etc. So when it came to girls I wanted to understand their nature...well the rest is history I've meditated on loneliness and such and for me it is a state of mind, not an identity Which means I can steps to proactively…
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 05:14 AM
4

Keep your eye on the prize Namely, your "fuk you" fund number...whatever that is Once I got clear with myself about the kind of lifestyle I want and the consequent number I'll need to get there, I became like Neo from The Matrix and could see past the BS of every situation I don't see annoying people...only obstacles I need to overcome to get closer to my goal If I see an annoying blue pill person, it no longer invokes a rise in my amygdala...I just think "OK, I'll do this and that to avoid wors…
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 03:13 AM
2

And to further explain MGTOW, after the kid tossed away the cup + ball a huge wad of cash drops around him accompanied by "THUG LYFE" slowly scrolling down the screen with hip hop music. Disregard females, acquire currency.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 06:14 AM
1

I would need more than $500 in medical bills to buy the amount of face palms necessary to cover the cringe I'm feeling.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 06:03 AM
6

Welcome bro. Urges are normal and there are ways to get it outside of a relationship so you're not missing out by not being in one. I'm actually in Chad-like territory, but I opt to focus on acquiring currency, disregarding females (which ironically grants you even more access to females). The amount of stress + energy saved by not even considering pursuing a relationship is monumental. I use those resources in turn on developing the basic pillars of life (health, finance, etc.) I sleep even mor…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 01:19 AM
1

Game. Set. Match.
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 12:50 PM
47

Too late. The cat's out of the bag. A simple cost-benefit analysis shows there's no benefit to getting into a relationship or more in this day and age. The knowledge of this analysis is spreading throughout the Internet and men are waking up. The men of past had a valid excuse for limited access to such knowledge, but today's generation has no such limitations. While these damage control women may be more pleasant to talk to, the red pill knowledge of AWALT will keep you on the straight.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 01:28 AM
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Agreed I never could truly not give a fuk prior to MGTOW. But MGTOW was the final piece of the puzzle that unleashed the BFG9000 of not give a fuks about women that freed me from pussy servitude
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 04:28 AM
3

An all too common occurrence. A beta is born every minute and you bet your bottom dollar more cases like this will continue. As accomplished as he is, he couldn't overcome the blue-pill programming directed at all men from a young age. His driving motivation to succeed was from a blue-pilled belief system so when it crumbled, so too did his grasp of reality. I wish I could say with confidence that such men could be saved, but with such intelligence and STILL succumbing to blue-pilled ideology, i…
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 06:46 AM
2

But Red Pill, how do we solve the following? Monkey branching Cheating Hypergamy STDs False Rape Allegations Divorce Rape Predominant Female Child Custody Spermjacking JUST HOLD FRAME BRO OH AND LIFT PHAGGOT ...Right.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 06:24 AM
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JUST HOLD FRAME BRO. Famous last words of a red piller
/r/MGTOW12/02/17 06:36 AM
1

A desperate effort by the plantation. Nice try. Any man with a sense of logic will see past all the BS. Nagging = gentle encouragement? LOL
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 09:34 PM
6

Here's the thing about MGTOW: it doesn't matter if you're not a go-getter...life goes on I'm the opposite coin: I was goal-driven before MGTOW and MGTOW only enhanced my abilities to focus since I no longer need to occupy my mind with women My health, wealth, non-romantic relationships, and hobbies are doing better than ever with this new level of focus
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 10:10 AM
4

You are now free to do whatever you want. As someone who embraces self-improvement, I now have greater reigns than ever to fully focus on bettering my life outside of women. Health, wealth, human relationships outside of romance, and my hobbies are better than ever. Creative ideas come constantly to me unstemmed from distracting drama from romance. A MGTOW can choose to sit on his couch all day, and I don't judge but I have an inner drive that keeps me going.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 12:43 AM
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I just add some blue pill flavor Like use a lot more smiley faces and exclamation marks in my text I also smile almost like a blue pill dude if we cross paths and do kid-like interactions so she doesn't get man vibes from me I find that kills the tension and gradually molds her so she puts me in the friendzone
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 12:36 PM
3

It doesn't matter what he does. People evolve naturally. I let people be who they are and focus on doing my life. If it matches, great. If not, I don't think about it, but I also hold no ill-will save for extreme circumstances. Because I'm continuously focused on my life goals.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 12:09 PM
4

I have lost personally and many bros to the poosy pedestal in the past. But it hasn't brought me down because I know I've done the best for my bros by giving them sound advice as necessary. I see it as just part of life. What I can control is how to improve my life so I can also help those around me when needed.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 12:01 PM
2

Sarcasm, brother
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 02:07 PM
1

I've instinctively sought out truth over fantasy for a long time now. There's no way I could've found MGTOW if I hadn't. It hasn't been all nice. I've had to swallow many uncomfortable truths in the process. But I was determined to arm myself with the right knowledge so I could achieve my goals. The reward is I can see blue pill and red pill troubles now from a mile away. I can entirely avoid them saving massive resources. I have no oneitis and I walk away from any BS a girl throws at me. If you…
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 06:49 AM
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On the rare occasions I get a dash of loneliness, I simply remind myself of the CONSTANT nagging + complaining that comes with AWALT sooner or later and I immediately slap myself to reality and feel much better embracing true freedom (financial + mental) again.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 05:24 AM
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I don't even bother with relationships anymore You can get sex outside of one and all of them develop towards less freedom...fuk that
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 01:06 AM
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She saved a man from years of nagging and complaining and potential divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 12:54 AM
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No still AWALT. Guaranteed if it was physically still possible for her to get what she wants she will STILL find a reason to nag or complain. Women are NEVER satisfied. If there isn't a problem, they'll make one up to occupy their hypergamous hamster minds.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 12:51 AM
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There is no such thing as failing a woman's chit test in MGTOW Only red pillers concern themselves with this petty chit MGTOWs don't give a fuk about chit tests Fail or win a MGTOW continues on his path unaffected
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 03:32 AM
1

Agreed He took a baby's life He's not just blue pill...just straight up human garbage, good riddance
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 03:19 AM
5

You're in the wrong sub. MGTOWs don't give a fuk about game.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 01:10 AM
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He had some really solid content that pushed me to the limits when I was a red piller about conditioning yourself to walk away from ANY woman But after finding MGTOW, that stuff is amateur compared to the real power of NGAF I feel red pill breakthroughs can only play catch up to MGTOW MGTOW is the highest power of freedom (financial + mental) you can achieve as a man
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 03:32 PM
3

This is standard behavior for women, especially nightclub women. Clicking with a girl nowadays doesn't even affect me. They hate me, they like me, they "love" me (lol)...none of that chit affects me. I just go home and fire up my copy of Doom on the PS4 and feel like an ultra badass. Then hit the gym and roar like a dinosaur. MGTOW
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 02:17 AM
3

"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus, Th…
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 01:19 AM
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MGTOW done properly comes in levels. It's like bodybuilding...dieting drastically for a short period of time (avoiding girls) is not going to provide sustainable results if you go back to eating junk. Like bodybuilding, MGTOW is a lifestyle. This means you must condition yourself to see the truth of situations rather than blindly following what a MGTOW is "supposed to do" if you want to reap the full fruits of the lifestyle. When I see a girl now, I don't see this beautiful, sacred creature that…
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 12:57 AM
6

Seek truth rather than fantasy. Even before I knew about MGTOW and was a red piller, I wanted truth more than being with a girl. That meant I would purposely sabotage the relationship based on controlled tests. I was conditioning myself to always be willing to walk away from ANY girl. Most guys can't do this especially if the girl is attractive to them. Ironically, acting more like an asshole only lead to better results (as we all know). These test results eventually lead me to seeing the value …
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 12:37 AM
2

If you're a red-blooded male with logic, there is none because: It's only for sex and You can get sex outside of a relationship I see no inherent advantages to getting into a relationship. Unlike beta males or red pillers, I don't need female validation to feel good. I already know I'm awesome.
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 05:47 AM
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Inner Game: MGTOW >>> Red Pill Mental Freedom: MGTOW >>> Red Pill This is not even a question for me. I've tried both for extensive periods of time and MGTOW BY FAR offers the STRONGEST INNER GAME + MENTAL FREEDOM than any other mindset for a male. MGTOW is pretty much the GOAT + HIGHEST ECHELON of "inner game" or mental freedom you can attain. For fun, I've even went out to pick up girls after having gone MGTOW and you really DON'T GIVE A FUK about "rejection" (is it even that now?) because you…
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 02:42 AM
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To each their own brother If you are TRULY happy with what you have, then by all means you are certainly GYOW I lean more towards an achieving and conquering mindset because I have several passions so I don't want to just sit on my ass all day and tell myself that I'm actually truly content without first achieving certain goals But the bottomline is that GOAT mental freedom...once you're MGTOW that ability is open to you! P.S. By assets, I wasn't simply referring to external material assets...I …
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 02:27 AM
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MGTOW changed my life It's brought me more calm, peace, happiness, and serenity than when I was at the top of my game at red pill ever could All this talk about inner game in red pill can NEVER beat MGTOW...MGTOWs truly DO NOT GIVE A FUK about women and their feelings You can't fake that kind of DGAF and once you obtain that surreal feeling (and kick back with some progressive trance) it's like you srsly enter a state of bliss I am purely focused on my goals (which don't involve women) and my ca…
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 02:13 AM
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Welcome bro. Don't let women get you down. You got one life to live...just max out your assets and let the cards fall. Enjoy the GOAT mental freedom...MGTOW!
/r/MGTOW24/01/17 05:33 AM
2

The truth will set you free MGTOW
/r/MGTOW23/01/17 03:24 AM
2

I see it differently and prob. like most other men do: Blue Pill -> Red Pill -> MGTOW RP can NEVER beat MGTOW in terms of mental freedom In RP, you can never truly ngaf because everything you're doing is done to maximize your attraction to women Whereas in MGTOW, you can be or do ANYTHING you want...if you are a guy who is prone to self-improvement you do that for its own sake (not for women) and women are still attracted to you if you are a guy who wants to be a lazy couch potato, you can do th…
/r/MGTOW18/01/17 05:21 AM
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This is a point I've made before to fellow men Manginas are WORSE than the women they put on a pedestal Manginas are the KEY ENTITLERS of the whole decline of femininity Women can only get away with as much as men let them get away with and these manginas have manipulated the laws to allow women to get away with murder I can smell a mangina from a mile away and I always keep a safe distance cause I know they will do anything to pedestalize women...betraying their own friends and family...whateve…
/r/MGTOW18/01/17 05:11 AM
2

agreed I've done that cost-benefit analysis too and like you said 1% of sex and some bragging to your bois in all that time invested for 99% of endless drama is just not appealing enough for me I always had a hard time understanding why guys enjoy the process...I asked my bois many times how they do it and for them somehow they just seem to enjoy female companionship more than I do and have a natural impetus to go out and holler at girls I don't particularly hold a lot of anger towards women, I'…
/r/MGTOW18/01/17 05:03 AM
1

Women have power only when they are young Sure, they are at the top of the sex/power chain in their peak years, but as a man you can BUILD leverage by investing in your future A man's leverage is built by always being willing to walk away from ANY woman and obtain your bangs here and there if you so desire As you gain wisdom and decouple yourself more and more from the general male population's fascination with women, you ascend to higher levels of mental freedom + clarity that boosts your enjoy…
/r/MGTOW18/01/17 04:56 AM
1

(1) You still haven't found a passion or something that keeps you excited about life OUTSIDE of girls For example, I really enjoy videogames and when I'm playing...I'm not thinking about how this will impress girls (it doesn't except for a few gamer girls)...I'm PLAYING for the ENJOYMENT of it (2) Whatever you end up enjoying, go BIG...meaning set a huge ass goal and go after it This will auto-correct any whiny weaknesses you have and you will end up in a position where YOU are advising future g…
/r/MGTOW18/01/17 03:27 AM
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mgtow is mental freedom nothing compares to TRULY ngaf about impressing women to walk by an attractive woman and simply not gaf because you are focused on your life path and goals or simply thinking about the latest game you want to play is something you can never experience as a red pill
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 04:52 AM
1

I refuse to believe such idiocy exists It's like the guy is actively trying to ruin his life
/r/MGTOW01/01/17 07:37 AM
1

exactly what I was looking for in my research thanks for your generous contribution
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 05:33 AM
2

times have changed the cat has been let outta the bag and MGTOW has blossomed in these conditions MGTOW is a natural extension of logic applied to circumstances When dealt with overwhelming bullchit, you can walk away...only those aware enough realize this and the rest are still plugged in
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 05:10 AM
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personally, the only reason I keep it around is for potential business opportunities some of my brahs also use it so I use it to keep in touch, but I don't ever update it just to share random chit like most ppl do it's always for a purpose and if I have no purpose then I don't update chit
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 05:06 AM
1

"there is no wall" only for beta males beyond saving
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 05:00 AM
1

I don't get this divisive thinking that if you're married you're not MGTOW or things like that. As far as I'm concerned, if you acknowledge the gender discrepancy in society and laws and do not shame your fellow man like women + beta males love to do to further uphold the plantation, we're on the same boat. I'm not married and I'll happily hang with a married enlightened guy over a bitter MGTOW. I personally despise labels as it creates a mental prison from the get-go and you spend the rest of y…
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 09:10 AM
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I know this feeling As long as you're alive + healthy, your parents have given you all the tools you need to get what you want out of life It's easy to forget this, but whenever I'm a little down in the dumps I remind myself of this and go do whatever I want anyway
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 11:35 PM
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I had to login just to reply to this turd of a post and those who support it MGTOW is not about being a whiny little bytch who COMPLAINS about being given a gift by his Mommy cause it wasn't a gift he wanted If it is, I want nothing to do with it After a certain age, you realize your parents owe you nothing. Being alive and in good health is all the foundation you need to accomplish anything in life. If you don't achieve what you want with that, it's because you are mentally weak and complain al…
/r/MGTOW10/12/16 04:06 PM
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it's the opinion of the masses no one actually cares what u do what keeps most people in the plantation is fear of ostracization in the short term, they gain the good feels of acceptance however, they in turn trade in their mental freedom consequently, they will do all they can to protect that mental prison which is why spitting red pill stuff at blue pillers gets so easily heated...u r attacking the core of their identity the plantation keeps people in thru fear...fear of not fitting in (u must…
/r/MGTOW04/11/16 05:23 AM
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You can effectively be two types of MGTOW: one who completely abstains from women or one who chooses to interact with them, but merely for biological urges MGTOW is probably the best life you can live as a man regardless of whichever camp above you're in No need to explain what it's like to completely abstain from women - you deal with 0 BS that comes with interacting with them Now if you choose to interact with them, having a MGTOW perspective gives you incredible power - more than any red pill…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 01:22 PM
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Perfect representation of modern Western women Which then begs the question, why even bother marrying these women? Lol, it's like they're actively creating marketing for MGTOW
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 01:01 PM
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Seducing women is a skill that can be learned While looks matter, the range is a lot wider than most guys give it credit for Meaning you can look quite average or even below average and be able to get good looking women Of course, your "game" or seduction skills need to make up for subpar looks...that means developing great persistence and work ethic...more than the good looking guys need Also, strong game can surpass good looks This is not some mumbo-jumbo, numerous guys have proven this by rou…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 05:27 AM
1

Agreed, although I'll take it one step further and say that she can never love you for you (except your Mom). She loves the idea of you (demonstrated by you displaying high social status or ability to acquire resources efficiently). There is an idea of a man she can fall in love with. But never the man himself.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 05:17 AM
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Learn to see things as they are. We are essentially highly evolved animals. Animals like to have sex. Relationships and marriage are cultural evolutions of our tribal nature. Our tribal nature can be further broken down into chemicals in our brain. One of the primary chemicals is oxytocin. So the problem isn't that love isn't real. It is in a sense that it's a certain mix of chemicals in your brain that triggers your amygdala and various other cranial mechanisms to induce a chemical reaction tha…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 05:11 AM
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the best approach to women is a red pill front + a solid MGTOW background to deal with the inevitable change of behavior that comes with all women the longer u date them so I see a combination of pick up front-end skills + MGTOW back-end skills as the optimal way to deal with women and not falling into the traps
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 02:54 AM
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u have the most important thing in check (logistics - big city) this alone gives u more opportunities than any stud in bumfuk nowhere ever will if u can't do well in this env, there's no excuses also, ur confusing priorities...ur goal is to get better at seduction...not get an interesting life I see too much "become interesting" advice thrown around in seduction forums...personally I don't give a chit about all that Be boring as fuk...BUT master the stages of seduction...playing the game right w…
/r/seduction12/08/16 02:30 AM
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good i mean that in a good way life is ultimately about being yourself I respect every person's freedom to choose what he/she associates with and if MGTOW is too extreme for you you have zero obligation to continue associating with it Personally, I find value in MGTOW because it addresses the fundamentals of a lot of issues I am concerned about Like Bruce Lee and Buddhism says, take what is useful and discard what is not It would be irrational to expect every man born to be a cardboard cutter fi…
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 02:20 AM
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This belongs in the blue pill section
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 02:11 PM
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C'mon brothers we should come together for our fallen brothers. What's the point of bashing a fallen MGTOW just because he got screwed by the system? Isn't that the very man we should support? Although we wish no man the fate of these fallen MGTOW brothers, it is these very stories that are the core fuel that keep MGTOW alive and remind us of what we're up against.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 01:03 AM
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