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Blue Pill Examplemargerym/r/TheRedPill05/07/13 08:01 PM
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Personally? No. But we had a roommate with two. One was very mean, the other was sweet. It was the sweet one that tried to attack my 3-year-old sister before my grandmother jumped in between them and was attacked instead. A few years later a family friend was leaving her house when she and the kids she was babysitting were attacked by the "great family dog" next door who had gotten out of the house. She has chunks missing from her leg, one of the kids she was babysitting has extensive damage to …
/r/RedPillWives17/07/16 07:12 PM
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Laziness, self-esteem, etc. I don't actually believe some of the stereotypes like people with tattoos are criminals or whatever else but the effort people are or aren't willing to take says something about their character.
/r/RedPillWives01/07/16 09:48 PM
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No. It's not about love it's about government infringing on our personal lives.
/r/RedPillWives01/07/16 06:42 PM
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The pit bull love! Yes! Drives me absolutely nuts "they're just misunderstood" LOL nope.
/r/RedPillWives01/07/16 04:56 PM
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This thread! Yaaaaassssss!!! Ok, I'll go- I think we coddle our youth and it's ridiculous. The age of consent for just about everything should be universally lowered to 16. College isn't necessary. Like at all. The idea that we need a lot of stuff to have a baby or be over a certain age (within reason, obviously) or have a career/degree is not only absolutely ridiculous, it's dangerous. Women can't wait forever, for one, and for two I strongly believe it's what they want us to do- limit our repr…
/r/RedPillWives01/07/16 01:32 PM
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I've been thinking a lot about feminine dress. The thing is the flowy pink stuff just isn't my style so I got to thinking about how one can dress feminine without falling into that sort of narrow stereotype. I mean, it's all well and good but it doesn't necessarily work for all women either physically or personality-wise or both. So I went looking for feminine examples in fashion that went outside of the stereotype. What is your ideal style? What does feminine dress mean to you? And I'd love to …
/r/RedPillWives16/06/16 04:23 PM
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Thanks so much, everyone! <3
/r/RedPillWives16/06/16 04:06 PM
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I'm game!
/r/RedPillWives29/05/16 09:43 PM
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Um, I didn't know you were pregnant! CONGRATS!!!
/r/RedPillWives29/05/16 09:28 PM
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THIS! Not one of us is perfect and we never will be. It's not only important that we accept that but also that we don't try to "save face" by only talking about how great we are 😂
/r/RedPillWives18/05/16 09:43 PM
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Speaking of ASOIAF- I think Margaery has potential. I loved her in the books, not so much the show (she's where I got my name). In all honesty, Brienne is actually a good RP woman example. Not aesthetically pleasing and not exactly feminine but her devotion and willingness to defer. She is a good, honorable woman. She was devoted to Renley.
/r/RedPillWives15/05/16 04:34 PM
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You beat me to it!
/r/RedPillWives15/05/16 04:29 PM
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I can't stand Catelyn Stark. She didn't defer to her husband and instead took matters into her own hands, acting completely recklessly and starting a fight that led to her husband's death all because she was an emotional train wreck. And she was always passive aggressive about the whole Jon thing. I think I may have been one of the few who rejoiced when I read the Red Wedding chapter. But I love ASOIAF and it is full of RP wisdom not just for relationships. I think Dany and Kahl Drogo had a good…
/r/RedPillWives15/05/16 04:27 PM
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I know that we are trying to be better women, to be good women, but that doesn’t make us those things. Even after all of our hard work we only have more hard work to do. It’s a process not a destination. We must, and please listen closely here, we must always check ourselves. What is my motivation in this? Is this for me or is it for him? Am I letting my emotions get the better of me? Am I trying to emulate my friends? Am I attention seeking? Where is the benefit in what I am doing/thinking/feel…
/r/RedPillWives05/05/16 01:13 AM
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I figured out how to export and import old posts from GBG (and my old blog) and was pleasantly surprised to see it also transfers the comments section in full! If you want any of your old posts let me know. I can export them by author.
/r/RedPillWives04/05/16 11:45 PM
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That was fun! Hard-Pressed Skeptic Deeply financially-stressed and distrustful of government, Hard-Pressed Skeptics have reservations about both political parties, but more lean toward the Democratic Party. In general, they want government to do more to solve problems, but have doubts about its efficiency. Hard-Pressed Skeptics are among the most cynical about the ability of individuals to improve their lot through hard work. These attitudes may reflect their distressed financial conditions: Har…
/r/RedPillWives03/05/16 05:37 PM
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I was soooo sad when Miranda Kerr and Orlando Bloom got divorced. She had some great insights. I love how she wouldn't talk negatively about him.
/r/RedPillWives03/05/16 03:07 PM
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Spit it in the trash
/r/RedPillWives03/05/16 12:10 AM
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I LOVE her YT! The one I have found of most value is At Home with Madame Chic
/r/RedPillWives02/05/16 11:09 PM
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Awesome! Thanks for putting this together. The obvious book rec is The Surrendered Wife but I have recently been reading Jennifer Scott's books and they are so good! Polish Your Poise, At Home with Madame Chic, and Lessons from Madame Chic.
/r/RedPillWives02/05/16 10:43 PM
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Did you miss where I said it wasn't about zero criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 07:12 PM
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It largely depends on what you mean by criticism. Being hyper critical of your partner does damage intimacy. As easy as it is to throw out "if you can't handle it then you're weak" it's not a true statement at all. How we treat each other matters, both to us as individuals and to the relationship as a whole. Sure, it may not have to be a fight but will it cause a level of discord you are comfortable with? Is it worth that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 07:01 PM
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If you know that then say something. It's that simple. If you know he would want to be corrected and you don't correct him for the sake of not correcting him that's a problem. And that's what I'm saying. It's way more nuanced than "never ever point out anything to him"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 06:26 PM
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"Never" is a strong word. "Rarely" is more accurate. If he misses exits I'm not going to lose sleep over that. But the idea that one should NEVER say something is extreme. If my husband is driving down the wrong side of the road I'm going to say something. If he accidentally is getting gasoline on his leg I'm going to say something. It's a matter of picking one's battles. My husband wants me to express my discomfort and to point out when things are amiss. Otherwise why not just hire a maid and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 06:02 PM
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My husband has made stupid decisions as have I. Ones that have even screwed the family over in one way or another. I made the worse of those, though. Yay, me! I agree with what others have said- it depends. If it was just something stupid that annoys me I need to pick my battles. Is it worth a fight? Is it worth damaging our intimacy? If it's something HUGE then I'd expect after over a decade of marriage I'd be able to say "Woah. How out of character. Let's get to the bottom of this." and stick …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 05:47 PM
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Link? The example sounds like something I may have said but your retelling is distorted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 05:43 PM
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Love oil pulling!
/r/RedPillWives02/05/16 03:56 PM
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Curious, do you have a set time for getting off the internet? A point where you're like "Okay, it's 9:30pm, no more internet?"
/r/RedPillWives02/05/16 03:21 AM
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In practice this works because your husband will be the future father and role model for your children. If you want your children to share your certain values, it is your safest bet to find a father with those same values. My husband does not have the same values he did when we married. Neither do I. Values are not hardwired. They are a mix of learned behavior from family and the community at large. And one's personality comes into play. More to the point, your future husband at 25 will likely n…
/r/RedPillWives02/05/16 12:45 AM
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I feel like I totally suck at entertaining but I can manage with the marriage and kid stuff LOL Though entertaining is something I want to get better at, for sure. Maybe I should chronicle my misadventures?
/r/RedPillWives01/05/16 11:49 PM
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Thanks! Very helpful. I will look into reposting some of my old posts for sure. Totally doable!
/r/RedPillWives01/05/16 11:48 PM
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And in the same breath ask "where have all the good men gone?", of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:17 PM
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True. In my life it hasn't been a deal breaker. But my friends have certainly been "appalled". They have definitely voiced their disgust and objection (in a concerned way) and then dropped it. What is nice about this is that it does come back up but in a "Oh, I didn't know you were allowed to do that" way as they are disgusted by their idea of RP rather than what it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:06 PM
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1) I think you're wrong. But whatever. 2) "Because no one else complains about it and there needs to be a place to do so." Actually... yeah. There does need to be a place to do so because of how eager our society as a whole is to worship at the altar of Womyn while silencing any dissenters. And the thing is that it's not just a matter of "You know what, I disagree with how women are coddled in society." Because for men today the ramifications of that are way bigger than it being a little bit of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:00 PM
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Been pretty good. Same ol'. Getting caught up on the drama.
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/16 10:59 PM
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I would say all of our close friends are Blue Pillers. Like to the point that the very few that know about our beliefs and "lifestyle" are appalled by it but are respectful of it (and us them). Do I think it's possible? Yes. But it takes work. And you need to have friends/community that share your views. I took a break from this corner of the internet and had to come back to get my batteries recharged. I love my friends but being with them is draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:47 PM
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Revenge. Really, that's what the modern feminist movement (and, thus, society as a whole) has become about re: men. Revenge. It's not about equality, it's not about freedom, it's about payback. Men are to be taught a lesson. Men need to sit down because "it's our turn now". There is a clear vendetta. It's so clear, in fact, that when you point it out to a feminist they tend to shrug it off. Have you seen the new app that divides a group bill up so that the man has to pay more? Because misogyny o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:44 PM
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That said, I will give you this RPS- in general it is a bad idea for the modern man to marry. Unless he had something to back his woman as not being a harpy-in-waiting (like her being very religious or tied to traditional marriage outside of the marriage itself) he's more or less blindfolded on a cliff's edge. I don't think what you are saying is wrong or bad advice in general. To be frank, men are fucked. But abandoning marriage isn't necessarily the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:41 PM
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I don't disagree but I don't fully agree, either (and I haven't read all of the replies so forgive me if I am repeating anyone). I think it can be argued that men who marry (or want to marry) aren't high value because they forfeit quite a bit in the process. There is certainly an amount of independence, wealth, SMV, etc that gets knocked off of any married man, regardless of where he started. But I'm not sure that at the end of the day that's really relevant. Once a man marries what made him "hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:36 PM
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Well, hello! How have you been?
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/16 10:11 PM
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It's good to see you again! Im loving seeing all of these familiar faces. I totally feel you. When stress is high, patience is low. This is why self-care is essential (says the woman who neglects it and is suffering for it). Your biting your tongue comment made me think of a good step 1 for this process- shut up. At least don't speak unless you know it will be appropriate and helpful. I think when we get stressed and/or neglect things the first thing that goes is our censoring of our thoughts be…
/r/RedPillWives01/05/16 01:14 PM
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Love this! I'm a big list maker myself but I don't really have a process like that (making a new one weekly). Brilliant!
/r/RedPillWives01/05/16 01:07 PM
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Yay! I was hoping to see you around!
/r/RedPillWives01/05/16 01:06 PM
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Hey you! I like what you've done with the place ;)
/r/RedPillWives30/04/16 11:02 PM
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Number 6 I still have so much trouble with it! I'm absolutely a backseat driver because being on the road terrifies me. Thankfully he knows it and knows I try. But how? Because I opened up to him about it, showed him my terror, was vulnerable. So now when I start to flinch and cover my eyes and say "the light's red" he pats my hand and tells me everything is fine.
/r/RedPillWives30/04/16 10:55 PM
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Nah, it makes complete sense! After I posted this I went and started reading through my old blog posts. Now is the perfect time to take my own damn advice, right? Ha!
/r/RedPillWomen30/04/16 05:02 PM
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Love it!
/r/RedPillWomen30/04/16 04:29 PM
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She also went on an odd rant against beauty and said things like "Men are not as good at relationships as women, it’s how they are designed." Mostly she just tried to turn it into another Christian women's blog and the reason GBG was created, even though some of the authors are religious (myself included), was to provide a secular blog supportive of femininity because they are so sorely lacking.
/r/RedPillWomen15/03/15 03:10 PM
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I took my blog down a while back because life has been very busy and I've had to focus on other things. I am not sure when or even if it will be back up.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 02:50 PM
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It's important not to let things fester. If you do resentment comes up and you can explode. Pick your battles. Talk to him about it if you can't get over it but in a respectful manner that isn't nagging. Put it on you "I feel..." and not "you're screwing up because..."
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 03:13 AM
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I have the same story. To put it simply- fake it until you make it. Give someone your trust (within reason, of course. Don't just walk up to a stranger and say "can you hold this 5k?") and bite your tongue. I had to do this at first with my husband. A lot of tongue bitting and white knuckling but after a bit I realized I was getting worked up over nothing. If you want to trust him start by trusting him.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 02:46 AM
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Interesting! But I still strongly advice against it. My mother isn't the cleanest person so she lets her "beard" grow out and it definitely is darker and thicker. I'm going to side with my paranoia over this just to stay on the safe side.
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 03:25 PM
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The only advice I have is to not try and change her and not try and hold onto her. Which is hard, I know, coming from having a crappy mom myself (though in different ways). She is her own person and she has to make her own decisions. You trying to hold is only going to cause issues for you. She must be so alone and I feel so bad for her but all I can do is keep a safe distance, I'm afraid to get any closer. It's really all you can do. It's her life but you don't have to be sucked into it. Don't …
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 08:44 AM
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It does if you use a regular razor on your face. My mother decided to shave her chin some years ago and she has this really nasty patch of coarse thick stubble there now. I would not recommend shaving with a regular razor because of that.
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 08:32 AM
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Okay, I just realized I thought I was replying to something I wasn't. My bad! My arm hair was already black, etc. I have a darker complexion. Had I had light fine hair I would have been more concerned. It's really not an issue because I shave every day but when I have been sick and it has grown out there has really been little difference (except I have never let it get as long as it was back then.)
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 08:29 AM
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I understand. Is there a middle ground here? Can you move and respect him wanting to cut ties with his side of the family and can he respect you wanting to still visit and have contact with your side? Can he stay but cut ties with his side and you keep connected with yours? I think it'd help to better understand why he wants to move and cut ties. Can you share that with us or is it too personal?
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 12:51 AM
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I'm not sure if these things are really ethnicity related. It's all pretty standard among couples, these sorts of disagreements. I think you need to take them on individually and not just say "Oh, it's ethnic". It's not, really. It's personal preference. Deal with it from that angle.
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 12:44 AM
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I'm kind of not seeing what your background has to do with taking pride in your ethnicity. Meaning, I'm not seeing the problem. Could you explain? how can I not allow our cultural differences to influence how I treat my captain? Is there a way to hold on to my own cultural identity and still serve as a first mate? You just don't and of course. I am biracial and my husband is white. I was raised, however, by my white side of the family so I have like zero culture (due to laziness on my family's p…
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/14 12:40 AM
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You want to be submissive? Go for it. But I read so many posts where a young wife comes for help because her husband is emotionally abusing her and calling it "dread game", and then you say she is a horrible person for not being submissive enough. Link me to where I said this. And that's not what you said, so which is it? You suggested that had I understood feminism I wouldn't possibly be submissive. So can a woman chose it or not? Can a woman be a feminist and submissive or not? As for not supp…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 11:01 PM
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Considering that you are part of a subreddit that teaches that women should serve men, I'm guessing you didn't pay a whole lot of attention. Wait now, I thought feminism was about choice? I thought it was about choice so much that you could be a submissive woman and still a feminist. Am I wrong here? That's what you all always say. You did call me uneducated in feminism by suggesting I wasn't versed in it enough to remotely know what I am talking about. Men getting screwed over in court = being …
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 10:45 PM
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I was a feminist for years. My daughter is named for a feminist icon. I have read numerous books on the topic and argued your stance on it. Don't assume I am uneducated because I don't agree with you. It's self-serving. I literally did address what you said: "Men are marginalized in that they can't be more like women." Is what you said here... "Men get screwed over in divorce court. Men get mocked for their profession choice if it isn't manly enough. Men are laughed at when they press charges fo…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 10:04 PM
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If "championing" men's rights is based in a gender-specific movement that only addresses men at all from the realm of women then it's not championing anything but their own issues. Saying "men are marginalized in that they can't be more like women because of the big bad patriarchy (aka men)" is not championing anything for men, it's entirely for women. Feminism still fails to acknowledge that men's rights is a real thing outside of the realm of the feminist agenda. When I see THAT (when I see fe…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 09:47 PM
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EDIT: I was replying to something else. Got mixed up. Whoops!
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 06:41 PM
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Because you were banned?
/r/askTRP24/09/14 03:41 AM
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So ladies, what would be some suggestions to continue to improve our relationship and show my appreciation? Stop overthinking it. Don't overdo it (seriously, there is a point where it's just clingy nonsense and no man wants that). Pay attention to what he wants/needs from you and do it. If it's not broke, don't fix it.
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 03:25 AM
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He has tried this career change before with no success So basically he is playing? He had a midlife crisis. Asked for a divorce. So yeah, he's playing. He can't make up his mind. That's not a good thing. Why should you support indecisiveness? Take it to him. Tell him what is on your mind and why. Tell him you need him to explain Plan A and Plan B to you.
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/14 03:23 AM
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Doesn't the hair end up regrowing darker and courser? Not with this method, no.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 09:36 PM
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The thing is my hair is already black and thick. So when they said that to me I was like "because it'll be so different than what I already have" insert eye roll here
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 07:49 PM
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Apples and oranges. And people changing is irrelevant. My husband is not a child. I don't feel the need to mother him. And because he isn't a child he won't choose Cheetos over living 20 more years.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 07:40 PM
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I've been shaving my arms since I was 13. Everyone said I would regret it but I have never looked back.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 07:37 PM
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I think it depends on how fast your hair grows. I do it when I feel like it so every few days maybe? I should wait a week and see what happens.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 07:01 PM
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Okay, who is this Michelle Money girl? She is cracking me up. "You are kidding yourselves, your husband notices and he hates it". Right?! I love her, too!
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 07:00 PM
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Keep the people that love you full of love for you, they're all you've got I LOVE this!
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 05:48 PM
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Thanks! Sorry I didn't get back to you- at first I was sure you were a troll just trying to get my phone number and then I was trying to decide whether or not I wanted to do it. Still undecided, obviously.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 05:31 PM
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Hi! Are you the one that emailed me?
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 04:38 PM
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We got married at 18. Best decision I ever made and he agrees. I don't regret not screwing around. I see the drama my friends and others my age are going through and... yeah, no thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 02:40 PM
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If he specifically asked for them, yes. Granted, I didn't marry the type of man that would continue on filling his body with crap if he got such a diagnosis. But he also is the breadwinner so my not spending the money he made on his requests would be rather rich, don't you think?
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/14 02:12 AM
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Don't be a mother to your husband. Ding ding ding!
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 07:47 PM
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I wouldn't make decisions for him but I would be very honest with how I feel about it which, if we're talking life threatening, would probably consist of me bawling.
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 07:42 PM
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My husband likes fish with rice/quinoa and veggies, big homemade bean burritos with homemade salsa and guacamole, homemade soups (like minestrone, split pea, and white bean), and sandwiches made with all sorts of different things- even PB&J. He also loves a big helping of gazpacho but I haven't made that in ages. I like to make big batches of soups, especially, and freeze in individual servings. He can just grab that and microwave it while on the job. Fish with grains and veggies can be made for…
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 06:55 PM
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The clearest proof that feminism is man-hate and all about female supremacy is the mental gymnastics they do to justify ignoring the issues men face and playing up the ones women do. Instead of seeing humans they see sex organs. If you have a penis every last thing you go through is based in privilege and the fault of your own sex. If you have a vagina you're a victim that deserves justice.
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 06:16 PM
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While the men sit on thrones and drink mimosas all day? Hardly. The men in these nations have it just as bad. Food for thought: http://margeryandtheman.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/screen-shot-2014-08-17-at-1-32-23-pm.png
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 06:14 PM
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Do you really think men aren't viewed as property as well? The problem is they are viewed as property in different ways so that's somehow okay. No, these are HUMAN RIGHTS issues, not solely female.
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 06:12 PM
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I think she was right on a lot of things and wrong on a lot of things. Gender equality is a male issue, too. But feminism isn't going to fix that. Focusing on one gender will only make matters worse, not better. And yet that's what her entire speech was about. Even in brining up fathers her plea to allow them to be "human and vulnerable" came from the place that the female mind is the default. "Let fathers be mothers" is what she was saying. Which is besides the point. The underlying point in sa…
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/14 06:07 PM
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It sounds like your family is making a lot of assumptions. "He is treating her like a doormat because she doesn't have a higher education and career" Unless your SO came directly out and said this to them they are essentially just guessing. I'm wondering how much of this is a projection on their part. Higher education and career simply isn't something all people desire in themselves or their spouses. Don't concern yourself with what your family thinks your SO thinks. I don't understand why you s…
/r/RedPillWomen20/09/14 03:38 PM
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I know that we are in a economic crisis but is it really so bad that being a housewife is impossible? Depends. We make it work. My husband doesn't have a glamorous high paying job but he makes enough. We're frugal and minimal. With 5 kids we manage to manage. Stingray really nailed what I wanted to say. This is a choice. Your choice. Other people be damned. Living in our world is not cheap anymore. Only if you buy into the idea that you need lots of things, really.
/r/RedPillWomen20/09/14 02:23 AM
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Daycare is pretty expensive. It's not necessarily a net financial gain with you working when you've got 2+ kids in daycare. It would depend on your job. Throw that at the people being judgemental about your choices. This. Many housewives are such not because it's a luxury but because daycare is. The myth in many cases is that you have to be able to afford to stay home- the reality is you have to be able to afford to work. People can't seem to understand that, though.
/r/RedPillWomen20/09/14 02:12 AM
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…she was beginning to feel very bitter toward her husband because she said that she could tell from his letters that he was actually enjoying the ↑excitement of↓ war! Already he had been to Iceland, England, Africa, and Italy! Oh, she was willing to admit there were plenty of hardships connected with it… but what had she been doing all this long while? Just staying home day after day minding the baby! “When he gets home,” she told me, “he can just sit with the baby for a while and she what it’s …
/r/RedPillWomen19/09/14 10:46 PM
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The fact is that feminine fears about male leadership aren't baseless. Any time your Captain is confronted with a crisis, he's rolling the dice. He cannot assure you of the outcome. All he can do is assure you that he will try. The "leap of faith" here is to put aside your fear for the good of the boat and trust in his leadership . . . even if he might fail. Absolutely this. I don't think y'all really appreciate just how much a man's attitude gets buffed when he gets an expression of confidence,…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/14 03:34 PM
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Talk with your husband about this. One semester is a short time and sometimes it's okay to let certain things go. When I was overwhelmed with my workload I opened up to my husband about it and asked him what was important to him. He said food on the table and caring for the kids and told me he didn't need a perfectly clean house. Clean, yes, but perfectly? No. Our house is often times messy. I homeschool 5 children so we are home mostly all day. He is much happier to come home to the mess from o…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/14 03:00 PM
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By self-care I meant taking care of you as a whole, not just to up your Girl Game. Stuff that is for you so that you can remain in a healthy mental and emotional space. For me it is having some time alone, writing, learning a musical instrument, etc. These are things I do to care for myself so that I can be the best wife and mother I can be. Are you taking care of you? Because if not that leads to some real burn out.
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/14 04:20 PM
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"I need you to initiate more often" "I need you to be clearer about what you want and need from me, namely in the bedroom." "It's helpful to me and turns me on when you _______________" "I am beginning to feel lost and alone here, I need you to ___________ to help me regain my bearings." The dirty truth no one ever tells us about love and attraction is that it waxes and wanes. Life gets in the way, our bodies fluctuate, etc. Commitment is key here. You are committed to him- let that get you thro…
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/14 03:38 PM
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Panic attacks are a fairly extreme reaction to simple distrust. I don't think that was the issue at all. There are things I simply cannot do whether or not my husband is with me or leading and he is aware of them. I can't do them for a variety of reasons- I have certain phobias, anxiety, etc. Though he shouldn't take it personally of course it can be taken personally. It's important to explain the situation and how you are feeling in clear words (don't make him guess!). The "it's not you, it's m…
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/14 03:19 PM
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Welcome! The internet can kind of suck but it's also a great place. You'll learn how to weed out the crazy from the beneficial. So glad you found us! Then I had the misfortune to come across r/thebluepill and saw someone making fun of one of my comments, insisting that I was suggesting women couldn't be self reliant or some other nonsense. They always misquote us and purposefully misinterpret our meaning. I have been accused of condoning rape and being a racist- two things I didn't even come clo…
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/14 03:13 PM
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/u/StingrayVC takes on choice and feminism by showing what some (most?) feminists really think about housewives aka her own choice.
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/14 04:17 PM
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Great stuff! Thanks for it.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/14 04:53 PM
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INTJ married to an INTP.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/14 02:26 AM
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And she always resented that decision because she couldn't find enjoyment out of something she was taught to look down on. Bingo. I don't deny that traditionalism/marriage/staying home/etc just isn't for all women. Of course there are women that aren't suited for it. But the big issue here is that there are many women that equate it with something terrible (see above) and either go into it already miserable or decide against it before hand. It not being for you is one thing, you deciding it's no…
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/14 06:55 PM
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Exactly what I am trying to say, thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/14 12:59 PM
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Have you ever considered that the church wasnt ready for blacks having it? It was founded in the late 1800s. The members were already discriminated against without rasist slave owners on their case over it. So wait until 1978? And if that was the only case then why go back and white wash (hardy har har) the words of Brigham Young over black folks in general? It was once very much a part of Mormon thought that blacks were denied the priesthood for a perceived legitimate reason not just because of…
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/14 02:35 AM
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Joseph Smith gave limited priesthood power to women from the get-go. It's one of the arguments the feminists use to say they have a "right" to it. But in all fairness the Mormons also would never have abolished polygamy- a doctrine that was integral to their faith. Yet what happened? Maybe you're right, maybe they won't ever extend the priesthood to women. I'd be happy to see it. But it's not as if the LDS church has never backtracked and caved to pressure.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/14 02:06 AM
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To be fair Mormonism is falling to feminism in some big ways. At least the membership is and more than just a little. There is the feminist Mormon revival, for one. They finally just had to excommunicate a woman for demanding the priesthood be extended to women. And if history is any indicator the Mormons will comply with feminist demands as they have always complied to outside demands (abolishing polygamy and extending priesthood to black men being two examples) It's a shame to watch, honestly.…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/14 10:04 PM
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But the basic messages expressed in these blogs — family is wonderful, life is meant to be enjoyed, celebrate the small things — are still lovely. And if they help women like me envision a life in which marriage and motherhood could potentially be something other than a miserable, soul-destroying trap, I say, “Right on.” You know how feminists try and say that this isn't the message about marriage, motherhood, and family that feminism portrays at all? Obviously not judging by how many women have…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/14 09:54 PM
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Random: I just made the connection between here and Twitter. Hi! LOL
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/14 03:46 PM
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Women should always tell their men if something is bothering them. If they don't this leads to bitterness. And by always I mean when it actually matters. What this video is saying is a glass on the floor shouldn't matter to you. Correct. But if something is so huge that it does absolutely bring it up.
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/14 01:43 AM
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Holy moly! Yup, that is a perfect example of opposites. My goodness!
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/14 01:01 AM
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I love this video. It's such a simple concept but one we have to really be reminded of because we've grown up in a culture that tells us we should never have to do something as horrible as pick up someone else's glass, especially a man's. We have to catch the nasty thoughts before they turn into nasty words and nasty actions.
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/14 11:53 PM
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I really love this video. It's short and simple but such an important no-brainer concept that in reality we as women need to in a real sense knock out of ourselves after being told for so long that we were entitled to never having to do such things for anyone let alone any man. The important thing is catching the nasty thoughts before they become nasty words and actions.
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/14 11:43 PM
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In the history of feminism, when has it ever been told "no"? From the moment of its inception, it took about 50 years to get it the legal equality it ostensibly demands. Since then, it's been on a propaganda campaign--sorry, "educational venture"--to change how people think about themselves, all while appropriating the brand built by their law changing foremothers. But they are not the same at all; one changed laws (right or wrong) to give "equal-opportunity" and the other is demanding women uti…
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/14 11:37 PM
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I missed the original post, unfortunately. /u/FleetingWish my thoughts are with you. Please take good care of yourself even if that means allowing others to do it for you.
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/14 11:27 PM
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There is plate spinning TRP and then there is LTR/marriage TRP. RPW is based in the latter. The former really is all theirs, has nothing to do with us. I let them do what they do and I focus on me and mine and what is relevant to us.
/r/RedPillWomen18/08/14 12:29 AM
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A big one.
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/14 11:12 PM
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You can blame a subreddit all you want but if you actually had a happy marriage he wouldn't be wanting big changes. You keep asking why you should change and that's fair enough. Why should he have to live with you, though? You keep going on and on about equality but it's clear you don't care a lick for his take, his feelings, in this. Look, a spouse doing a 180 is no fun. I'm sorry, truly, for that shock. But saying it's our fault? Ignoring your husband? No no no. This is all on you, love!
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/14 11:06 PM
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Yeah, if that were true they wouldn't be here trolling. Just sayin'.
/r/RedPillWomen15/06/14 10:13 PM
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Education education education. Not indoctrination. Just the facts. And then, IMO, you should be sharing your personal experience and those of others.Be open and honest. If you try and shelter your kids they will find the information elsewhere from less than ideal sources. I have 5 daughters though they are still all pretty young. Still, we talk about sex and sexuality in an age appropriate way (facts vs. showing them porn as people seem to think when they find out my 5 year old knows how babies …
/r/RedPillWomen15/06/14 10:11 PM
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Ian Ironwood has a post about male same-sex relationships and RP, doesn't he? Am I making this up?
/r/RedPillWomen15/06/14 10:05 PM
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Congrats! You're going to fall right into it. It sounds scary but in action 99% of the time it just is. Woo! So excited for you! I personally know 3 women that have IUD babies. And I personally have 2 birth control babies. Heck, I even know 2 women that have tubal ligation babies. We sure like to think BC is 100% but LOL, nope!
/r/RedPillWomen15/06/14 10:03 PM
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your RPW "training" should serve well if you go back to the basics - keep your mouth shut until you've carefully considered what you are going to say. Yes yes yes! What a great reminder, thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 01:30 PM
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I hear my kids whisper a curse word when something happens from time to time, not too often, but Twin A (who is our very uppity child) openly curses more than I'd like now. And right to my face. "Well, s**t, Mom!" She's 4.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 01:29 PM
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Are you finding this happening in your everyday conversational style, or mainly when you are expressing frustration? It's very much a part of my everyday conversation. I am way cleaner around the kids but it has become so integral to the way I talk that I am slipping up more and more. Honestly, I am really embarrassed by how bad it has gotten.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 01:27 PM
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No, I think you need to be honest about posting here but also honest about the whys of it. He may get angry at first but listen to that anger and what he is saying.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 12:38 AM
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Ah, yes. This makes things a lot clearer. Re: the switch- you were right to say something though maybe not the way you did. If he isn't usually a hitter and then he grabs a switch something is amiss and kids should never ever be disciplined when stress and anger has taken over. Your first lines really say it all. He's stressed. He's feeling insecure. He's feeling powerless. He can't fix the glasses? I bet that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Here he is trying to get things in order fo…
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 12:34 AM
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I felt that perhaps being more of a RPW, it would be like a bit of therapy for his anger issues. Helpful, yes. A solution all it's own? No way. But do turn him on to the married RP guys blogs and what not. They have a lot of stuff about getting it together as a man which I think your husband really needs.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 12:14 AM
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I agree. Though I wonder how fixable it is. There are abusive assholes who we need to run far from and then there are men caught in an asshole current that need to be supported in getting it together.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 12:13 AM
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He spanked him with a switch, as opposed to his hand. I got up in arms about it. About this- I would have, too. Generally speaking you shouldn't argue with your husband. If you respect him, he's the head of household, blah blah blah blah... I think we're all in agreement, there. But a switch? I mean at all I'd be upset but over that? No, I'm sorry, that was out of line. Our husbands aren't Gods. They can overstep, they can be wrong, and if it is an issue that could harm us and/our kids then yeah…
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/14 12:08 AM
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Never met him. Don't even know who he is for sure. This really played into my man-hate for years. Now I am able to see the need for a father and the big downside to sleeping-around. TRP talks a lot about sluts and fatherless kids- I'm the living breathing example of the latter and the ramifications of the former. It hits hard. I don't just theorize about these things, I live it. And yes, I have total daddy issues.
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/14 01:34 AM
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^ This. Fine, I’ll elaborate. Williams’ character unself-consciously rubs herself against Gosling’s face until she orgasms. She’s in her head, seemingly concerned only about her own pleasure. How often are women shown doing that? And when a man is shown doing something like that... well, if we're not screaming rape or "near rape" we're blaming it on misogyny and classic male selfishness. Of course.
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/14 01:31 AM
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I love the condescending dig at Shailene Woodley, too. Nice touch!
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/14 01:30 AM
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Yup, they still have no idea whatsoever what a RPW is.
/r/RedPillWomen04/06/14 05:09 PM
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No need! I understand how emotional this issue can be and I hardly was upset by what you said.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 10:51 PM
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It seems like you think I was taking you on in particular when I was speaking in generalities. I apologize for not making myself clearer. I don't know you or your situation, obviously. I was making an overall point about our culture. But not everyone is putting off kids b/c they think they need two BWMs and a huge house first. No doubt. But you also need to understand that not everyone prioritizes what you do or are popping out kids for grandparents to watch while they party. It's not quite that…
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 09:10 PM
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You don't need to go to college to be educated, though. And he can still attend college but make other sacrifices. There are many options but the first step is not buying into the lies of the mainstream (like either you go to college or you are uneducated or you can only have security if you go to college or you have to go to these specific colleges to get a "real" education or you need to have 2 cars and own a 5 bedroom house in a perfect neighborhood to have kids or your kids all need to have …
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 06:12 PM
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I believe that women can do whatever they want but know that are consequences to what you in your life in the long term. Exactly this. Women can do what they want, just don't whine about the consequences later.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 05:16 PM
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How many 25-30 year old men make enough to support a wife and several children, by himself, and have a house in a good neighborhood with great schools AND have their student loans, etc paid off? And do it all comfortably? My husband. We had 5 kids by the time we were 24. We homeschool and opted out of college to spare ourselves the debt. We get no gov't assistance (besides, you know, roads and what not) and are on our own (no grandparents to watch them while we party. Bummer!). We are frugal, ha…
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 05:14 PM
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Yup.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 02:50 AM
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Why have so many of us then––myself included––flat out rejected the notion that, as our bodies age, so too, do our eggs? One reason certainly rests with the fact that many ‘sex education’ programs are not as comprehensive as they should be. The focus on pregnancy prevention is obviously important, but so is ensuring that young women and men understand that their reproductive lifespans have a beginning, middle and end. In addition, many of us mistakenly trusted like a religion the modern notion t…
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/14 08:31 PM
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Wait, so you're making 60K and don't think you can afford kids? We had 3 kids making barely over 30k in a high cost of living area. We make more now and that's great but if you think you can't have a kid on 30k you're delusional. You can but you will have to make sacrifices.
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/14 08:02 PM
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I say this as a working-class stay at home mom who enjoys a high quality of living, while far below the average income, in one of the most expensive cities in the US, without a house or any of the aforementioned luxury goods. Are we twins? LOL
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/14 08:01 PM
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Actually, the fact is most stay at home moms stay home because they can't afford to work. "Economically impossible" is a complete myth. What people are really saying is they can't afford their lifestyle and stay home. Which is fine! But let's be honest about that. It'd be a very bad idea for me to work. We've crunched the numbers and we'd lose money in childcare, transportation, etc. As I said most SAHMs (statistically) find themselves in this position.
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/14 08:01 PM
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It is evident that you haven't read the sidebar by the questions you are asking which are mostly all addressed in the sidebar.
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:49 PM
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You have an honest discussion by not being condescending towards those you are speaking with, which is what you have been.
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:45 PM
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You have to understand (and you would had you read the side bar material) the TRP sub and this sub have different uses. We are about LTRs and they, for the most part, are not. Go read some of the Red Pill men's blogs dealing in LTR like http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/ and http://marriedmansexlife.com/blog/
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:33 PM
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i think i naturally have always been a little bit of a red pill lady but that only burned me in the past. How were a Red Pill? How did it burn you?
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:27 PM
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Keep in mind you came in here implying we weren't self-respecting and that we were emotionally and intellectually stunted by choice in favor of looks (aka vapid).
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:23 PM
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How does one go about finding a man that holds these values when on the surface holding these values tends to make them look pretty gross? You realize there is nothing gross about it, see it for what it is, and go from there. In short, you "take the red pill".
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:22 PM
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^ THIS
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:21 PM
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It's very clear you haven't.
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:20 PM
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Then you need to work on 1) actually reading what is being said, not skimming and 2) reading comprehension. The more I read your comments the clearer it is you aren't even trying to understand the sub or the purpose of it. You came here with an obvious bias- you're mind clearly already made up, bashed us, and are now playing coy. But maybe now you see that we aren't the feminist sexist idea of women that opt-out of that mindset? Hardly "emotionally and intellectually stunted" and not even close …
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:19 PM
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There are no rules only accepting of hard truths. Hence the movie reference in the name- take the blue pill and stay in fantasy land or take the red and see the truth. That's it.
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:15 PM
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downvote if you really want but i'm just curious why my curiosity is so threatening There is nothing threatening in the least about curiosity. But you're being very condescending referring to our lifestyle choices as "sexist" and saying things like "as a self respecting person..." suggesting we couldn't possibly be self-respecting. You also have quite clearly completely cherry picked posts and RP stances and haven't spent much time here as your questions have been answered before, ad nauseam. It…
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 01:13 PM
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I have no idea how I am just now seeing this but I managed to miss it all day! Thank you so much, /u/redpillschool! I will definitely pop in from time to time and have been boring everyone in chat this very evening. I will, of course, keep in mind that I am welcomed back to mod at any time and if and when I feel that I can give it the time and energy it deserves from me I will jump right back in. You all are wonderful! If ever there was an example of just how harmful feminism is, look no further…
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 03:42 AM
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The funny thing is Rodgers was anti-RP... he was a (dark) white knight. Yup. And the supposed misogynistic "hotbeds" he was floating around online had men telling him to shut it and taking him on. The guy was deeply disturbed. Those that try to make it more about something else are being opportunistic, plain and simple. What's frustrating/infuriating is how willing folks are to just eat it up.
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 02:24 AM
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Empathy. Listening to those around you. Even if you don’t like them very much. I was thinking of Columbine. When Marilyn Manson said in Bowling for Columbine that he would listen to the shooters had he known them pre-shooting he was applauded for it (by many, not all of course). I have seen some men from various places (meaning not all RP, MRA, etc) saying they would have listened/told Rodgers a thing or two, etc. And they are being attacked for it as being "a part of the problem". Really?
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/14 02:22 AM
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I wish I had something I could say that would help, that would make everything right. All I have is how sorry I am. My heart is absolutely broken for you. Please feel free to PM me any time if you need to talk or yell at someone or anything. I wish I could offer more.
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/14 11:31 PM
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when there were no longer any consequences for such action Oh but there are. Of course we aren't allowed to say that there are but there sure are. Hook-up culture is hurting women emotionally. Even if we forget about that being a single mom hurts women, too. There are consequences, feminists were just convinced they were all man-made not realizing it goes beyond that.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 01:37 AM
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They very rarely actually work. And we can blame societal conditioning for this all we want but jealously is a thing and jealousy with lovers is a BIG thing.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 01:31 AM
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Isn't the main event of porn always the money shot? Are the women ever really just sitting there and taking it? Yawning? Doing a crossword puzzel? The whole of porn rests on her theatrics, does it not?
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 01:30 AM
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People think you need "experience" before settling down. You don't. And "experience" doesn't have to mean multiple people. One will suffice. People also think that we are so liberated these days from thinking it was wrong or what have you to sleep around so obviously everyone will be jumping at the chance now that we are no longer super oppressed by the big bad patriarchy or big bad religion. Also a load of crap. We love to blame men and we love to blame religion for everything not stopping to t…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 01:28 AM
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just because they have (excuse my gross words), vaginas We're not 5. Vagina isn't a gross word.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 01:19 AM
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Yes, you'd be a slut. No judgement here, though, go and do! Just don't expect us to agree with you and don't expect to land an old fashioned guy. If you're fine with that, if you just want to slut it up, if you want to never "settle down" or have kids or whatever else your choices may be then do it. But if you have to come here and whine about us not agreeing with you, not validating you, you might want to recheck yourself. You sure you're doing what you want, what makes you happy? Because if so…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 01:15 AM
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I should add that I feel you on the tangles. I have very very curly hair, tangles are a fact of life for me. If I go one day without doing my hair routine it can take me up to 30 minutes to get through my hair again. You can't just run your fingers through hair like mine. It is what it is.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 06:16 PM
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Have you tried trimming the ends?
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 06:14 PM
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Laughing at it is a good idea. Because it is funny in how ludicrous it is. Making a choice about how I use my body is "backwards"? Yeah, okay, sweet cheeks.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 06:09 PM
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You have to understand that your mere existence threatens women like her that believe what they do. They have to believe that all liberated thinking women want to have tons of sex and it's only big bad religion and big bad patriarchy that holds us all back from experiencing the joy and wonder of slutting it up. Meanwhile, most of them are miserable and just can't seem to figure out why. To have women that reject what is being pushed on us makes their argument fall apart around them. It HAS to be…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 06:04 PM
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This.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 06:00 PM
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Try to avoid brushing when wet, it's the easiest way to break and damage healthy hair. I've already said this but I will again- if your hair is curly never ever brush it dry, only brush it wet. It's best to brush curly or easily frizzed hair when soaking wet with a wide-toothed comb or fingers. And then don't touch it.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 05:57 PM
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What helped me to grow my hair out was proper diet (which can look different for everyone, follow your body cues. Too much meat and dairy makes my hair fall out, unfortunately), stopping the shampoo (I now alternate between baking soda and apple cider vinegar), and oiling my hair with coconut and/or almond oils. Your hair may be tangling up easily because there is too much build up. Try adding a hefty amount of baking soda to your shampoo to clarify/strip it. When I do this (add it to Dr. Bronne…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 05:55 PM
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Do not brush your hair when it is wet. Unless it is curly, then only brush it when it is wet.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 05:52 PM
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His video on Fat Acceptance and Feminism is awesome: http://liveandlearnkid.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/the-link-between-fat-acceptance-and-feminism/
/r/RedPillWomen18/03/14 03:55 AM
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She has way less shape than them. She is built like a brick where as they had softer curves.
/r/RedPillWomen17/03/14 07:45 PM
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Play around with this. Some people do better with little to no grain, some with little to no meat, some with little to no dairy, etc. Shelve diet dogma, eat whole foods, and listen to what helps your body. So many times we start diets that are suppose to save us in one way or another and when they don't work we feel discouraged, give up. It's so important that we find what our individual bodies need not what someone is telling us it "should" need.
/r/RedPillWomen17/03/14 07:42 PM
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The thing is I want my friends to be happy with them Why? Why does it matter? Why should it matter? Their lives. And if you try and get them not to talk about something all they are going to see you as is an intrusive nanny type. Let them complain. Usually when this happens to me I am honest about how I feel (most times I agree with their men), smile and nod my head, or just get up and walk away. The first one kills women, BTW. They hate it. They want you to agree with them and when you don't...…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/14 11:13 PM
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Is my sexual history a hindrance? Depends on the man. Many think it's ideal, many don't, many are in between. Would guys even believe me if I told them that? Depends on the man. If you are as unattractive as you say you are they'd probably believe it. And any advice on dating as an unattractive woman? "There are no ugly women, only lazy ones." - Helena Rubinstein If you're fat, lose weight. If your hair is crazy, figure out ways to tame it. If you have severe acne, see a dermatologist. If you ha…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/14 11:06 PM
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Dana is right. I am religious now but when I started on this I wasn't. I use to eat up the religious femininity blogs just ignoring the religious part of it all. There are secular blogs that focus more on aspects of femininity: http://theclassywoman.blogspot.com/ http://www.thefemininewoman.com/ http://www.elegantwoman.org/ And don't forget about the "lifestyle" blogs and YouTube channels that at very least give you examples of aspects of femininity in action. Cupcakes and Cashmere comes to mind…
/r/RedPillWomen15/03/14 11:17 PM
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It's not necessarily over. You have already gotten some great advice but I wanted to say at least that. All marriages go through winters, some longer and more severe than others. It's really good that you married so young (we married at 18) as you two remember each other at your bests. Rekindle it. That's the key. Rekindle it and take that fire and make it 100x bigger than it ever was.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/14 01:57 AM
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Girl Game: Why It's Not Hopeless
/r/RedPillWomen06/03/14 03:32 AM
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The Red Pill Room Married Man Sex Life The Married Man Sex Life Primer
/r/RedPillWomen05/03/14 08:56 PM
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I think she was referring to the days when education wasn't something that happened readily with women at all. She references a woman from centuries past. That is different than the modern woman putting higher education above all else.
/r/RedPillWomen05/03/14 02:58 PM
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Yet despite the gains women have made in public life, the model of female empowerment held up by the media, today, is pop-feminism. In magazines and online news-sites, feminism and fashion intermingle. Humanities graduates, who specialize in snark, but not much else, now claim to speak on all women’s behalf.
/r/RedPillWomen05/03/14 02:34 AM
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It's important in a good relationship that men and women respect their privacy as a unit and as individuals. Notice on TRP how they talk openly about what they do to women? They aren't in relationships with them like this, don't respect them. When you want intimacy in a relationship you shut your mouth.
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/14 03:55 PM
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Posted this a bit ago, thought it would be relevant here. The biggest piece of advice I can give you if you’d like to be a doormat is to not take things to your husband. Ever. If you take issue with something he is saying or doing or planning be sure to keep it to yourself and marinate in the feelings of anxiety and resentfulness until it eats away at your being. Just say “Yes, dear”. Nothing else, ever. Don’t go to him with any issue you may be having. Don’t be honest with him. Lie your head of…
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/14 02:33 AM
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For the record: part of this DOES NOT INCLUDE going on the internet and chatting with strangers about what you won't do and your man's reaction to it. In fact, just keep your mouth shut about it. Don't share his business. Your sex life is his business as much as it is yours. Don't be that girl.
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/14 02:31 AM
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But to just have an opinion of "No, never, ever" I think is a little silly. Isn't marriage about compromise? Yes. And a part of this is both parties respecting hard limits. There are things that may make us mildly uncomfortable like BJs or wearing a pink nightie every night- not something maybe Sally would go out of her way to do just for herself but because her husband likes it, well... But what if Sally is just really uncomfortable with something? She wants to please her husband so she does it…
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/14 02:24 AM
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he works a lot. full stop. thats the manliest of things to do, not chopping wood. ^ This. And it doesn't hurt to remind him of that and remind him that you know you are running his household while he is working his butt off to give you that household to run.
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/14 05:24 PM
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She sucks at shaking hands, he's not being overbearing.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/14 05:43 PM
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:)
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/14 12:40 AM
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There is shaking a hand gentler and shaking a hand with a limp wrist. The latter is a sign.
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 09:41 PM
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Wars can be ridiculous, I agree. War as a concept is just reality.
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 05:36 PM
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Two really good ones. I was just coming to add to mine "has a very very close relationship with his mother".
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 05:35 PM
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Weak handshake. Like limp wristed, dainty, maybe just slips the tips of his fingers into your hand, handshake. Always takes pictures of his food (other than for food log purposes). Has an Instagram account he posts to multiple times a day (having one is one thing, always having your iPhone out for Instagram is another). Is actively trying to view women as progressive-style "equals" and talks about it non-stop "I'm trying to find a female role model, because I should have one." Is an arrogant "ac…
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 05:25 PM
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Nope, pretty sure ALL liberals are pussies. Too be fair there aren't very many ultra masculine conservatives, either. They all are a punch of high Betas, it seems.
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 04:50 PM
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Question: What is the best, reasonably priced (e.g. not expensive) conditioner for curly hair out there? Coconut oil.
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 11:48 PM
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Whoever reported Dana for this post- she is a mod. She is informing this poster of her overstepping. Deal with it.
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 07:20 PM
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Minimal risks that are largely your own doing.
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 02:33 AM
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Then they are seeing what they want to see. Just like the people who come on saying they are Atheists and asking if that's okay aren't paying attention. That's not our fault, they need to read objectively.
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/14 02:33 AM
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Straight forward beginner's workout from Zuzka Light! (sorry about the misspelling in the title. Typo)
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 04:41 AM
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In The Flipside of Feminism they argue this point. You can have it all, just not at once. Babies and marriage first, then do the career thing.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 04:14 AM
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You must have grown up really privileged to think most people in their late teens or early twenties could comfortably support a child in this modern day economy. I grew up dirt poor. I'm also not that old so "Shit ain't like it use to be." doesn't work for me. It sounds like you think it's a good idea to rush having kids Nope, never said that. I said it was doable if you wanted it to be. I have wants goals and dreams and kids aren't a part of that. And if it's biologically too late if I do decid…
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 03:59 AM
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but would it have been nicer to be stable enough to stay home and enjoy your child while your husband goes to a well paying job instead of a minimum wage job with odd hours? Another point is that I am now a SAHM. My husband doesn't work a top paying job, either, though he has moved way up from minimum wage even with kids. We make it work and without assistance and we made it work while we were having children. Again, it can be done as long as we are realistic about what stable is and isn't. If i…
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 03:13 AM
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It's not either/or, it's not all or nothing. People falsely assume having stability means having it all or most of it. It's not so.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 03:10 AM
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Who's there?
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 06:38 PM
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I wouldn't say I am bothered by it per se. I am more concerned with the fact that people seem to think you need a ton of stuff in order to have children. Like I said, I have seen this play out with couples afraid to have kids until they have a, b, c. But then they add d, e, f, and on and on it goes. It never seems like enough. If you think you need all of this stuff to have kids you are mistaken, you don't. It's that simple. It's just another lie we are told. it's that part that bothers me. If y…
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 06:06 PM
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I don't think you understand what I am saying. We weren't in the typical position to have a large family. Many would say we still aren't. Yet we make it work and without the government. We were teenagers at first working minimum wage jobs and built from there. It can be done if you are willing. Our situation was far from ideal but obviously if it can be done from that low of a starting point...
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 05:54 PM
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You have the choice to make it work. We had all 5 kids by 24. We made it work. The idea that you must be "financially stable" and that you aren't emotionally stable until older, etc, is false. Kids are as expensive as you make them. If you are waiting to have enough money you will be waiting for a while. I have watched this happen with people. They never seemed to have "enough" to avoid what they thought would be stress. I'm not saying people should do what we did but I am saying the financial a…
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 05:48 PM
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Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 04:56 PM
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Gabrielle Reece Christina Hoff Sommers who wrote the War Against Boys and Who Stole Feminism? She also challenges "rape culture" and the wage gap myth. Suzanne Venker who wrote the great article Men- the New Second Class Citizens as well as co-authored the Flipside of Feminism as well as heading Women for Men.
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 07:46 AM
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I may be confused but isn't Dita von Teese a raging feminist?
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 07:39 AM
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I think you may be right.
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 07:37 AM
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Kids are only a bad financial situation if you make them one. They really don't have to be that expensive, trust me on this. This all comes down to priorities. Decide which is more important to you and work everything else around that.
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 07:36 AM
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I raise my children to be adults. This is my stance. This is why I don't fall for the whole "let kids be kids" stuff. Children are children to prepare to be adults, not to have endless amounts of fun with zero responsibility. This is a given but these days in a society so based in feel-good selfishness people see childhood in a really self-serving way. Viewing kids as the future adults they will be is a way to shift this view.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 05:42 PM
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The greatest thing you can do as a wife, is raise your husbands children to be a shining example of your values. Love this!
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 05:39 PM
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We married pretty young and waited several years to have kids. I highly recommend that! Depending on how old you are and how many kids you want. Delaying childbearing isn't a good idea for health of mom, baby, and likelihood of fertility.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 05:39 PM
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We advocate for it because it is better for mom and baby, because too many have bought into the lie that delaying childbearing is fine when it really becomes far more difficult and with consequences. But dana is right. You didn't break any rules, per se. You're healthy, happy, etc. But it's still not what we would advise, necessarily.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 05:38 PM
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vs. selfishness, which is what is touted as a virtue these days.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 05:19 PM
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It's really a battle against yourself, one in which giving some slack can be dangerous because you'd be likely to revert back to your old self. So true. This never ends. Don't expect it to. This is the new normal.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/14 05:18 PM
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I can only speak for my society. Of course it's not feminism only, though. These ideas came from somewhere. Feminism here has certainly played into them, though. Children = misery Children = enslavement. Feminists don't outright say don't have kids (most the the time) but the issues surrounding motherhood they tackle all involve evading it via birth control, abortion, adoption, day care, etc. That's not me necessarily knocking those things, either. The message is we can only be free if we have s…
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/14 04:04 PM
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Hysteria is the downside of femininity. Just like men don't completely shut down women shouldn't completely give in to their emotions. Women should be ready and willing to check themselves, absolutely. This is not even close to saying they should be like men it's saying they should use their heads.
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/14 01:29 AM
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I cannot up-vote this enough. Required reading, everyone! I added it to the side bar. Take not of this part, especially, which I have taken the liberty of emphasizing: This shows a lack of personal security within yourself, the lack of power you can maintain to keep a strong frame as a Red Pill Women, and that you very well still are stuck in the ways that "because we are women, things should be written nicely and portrayed in a ray of sunlight."
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/14 01:10 AM
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As an added bonus it will make you appreciate your mom that much more. Or, in cases like my husband and I's, realize your own mother was even worse than you had thought and give you the strength to stand up for yourself and your children even more.
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/14 11:30 PM
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I hate how demonized children and motherhood has become. It's to the point that near everyone is convinced you lose your life, kids are awful, you become a zombie, etc when you have kids. It's all complete BS but it's feminism for you. Feminism is all about getting women away from motherhood to "save us" whether they like to admit it or not. This message has really bled over into mainstream society and it shows with how many people have illogical fears of becoming parents. Kids are great! Are th…
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/14 10:29 PM
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Kettlebell swings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0jalJ-3e7U I also like weighted glute bridges. I use a sandbag, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB7V1TOQtMA
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/14 10:18 PM
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Try out kettlebells. I know weight lifting is way in but it's also way over hyped. You can get fit without deadlifting 250lbs, really. EDIT: What I mean to say is, don't stress it. Start at 5lbs or 8lbs depending on what you can manage and work your way up. You don't have to head to the gym and start there. You can start a bit slower. If you want to work up to that 250lb deadlift, great! But don't let perfect be the enemy of good. You will start seeing some great results with or without it.
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/14 10:16 PM
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This is also it for me. And women do annoy me (yes, I annoy myself). But I do see the value in having female friends.
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/14 06:00 PM
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The lost art of shutting up is a good one. Respect, as well. ;) You've gotten some great tips thus far. Cooking, cleaning, self control, taking care of yourself in general (health, beauty, etc).
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/14 03:55 PM
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I really suck at this one IRL, y'all. I'm glad I have my online communities but obviously need something more intimate. Definitely need to work on this which is easier said than done in our current climate.
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/14 03:52 PM
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For an intimate marriage, you need several friends who know you well and whom you can entrust with any secret. Without confidantes, the chances of becoming overly needy or smothering your husband are great. … Conferring with women who are dear to you will make your surrendering journey easier and keep you focused on the rewards. (pg. 120)
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/14 03:51 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if this article was true Why wouldn't it be? It has links to examples and everything...
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/14 12:36 AM
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I understand. You just have to power through.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 10:20 PM
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Play around with this a bit. In some cases upping carbs can also help. Not donuts, fruits and veggies. Potatoes!
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 10:10 PM
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You are off to a good start! Depression is often times something we talk ourselves into. Try thinking throughout the day of all the things that are right. Keep a gratitude journal. Thank your husband all the time. Smile. Fake it til you make it. Look into B-Stress complex and magnesium oil as well as a good multi vitamin.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 10:08 PM
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Great article and even a great comment section. It was, I think, the only off-key moment in the whole transcendent address… …Here we have a Princeton- and Harvard-educated woman, one who out-earned her husband for much of their marriage, and could bring down the house at the Democratic Convention with one of the best political speeches in memory, telling her life story without a mention of her own legal career. A woman whose political instincts — ones that have been shown to be formidable — clea…
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 05:11 PM
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Where did you meet your husband? High school What was the first thing you noticed about him? His mohawk How long were you together before marriage? A year How old were you when you got married? 18 I know it's cliche but we really are best friends right down to the inside jokes and wanting to be around each other all the time. It worries me because if I lose him I lose everything, I have no BFF to fall back on.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 03:19 AM
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I am just saying that I am sure I am not alone in believing blue pill things or misunderstanding red pill things. Yes, and the one you bring up is a classic example. Many many people feel this way. It is in large part due to assumptions- people think that because we embrace natural gender roles that means we believe in the mythical pre-feminist 1950s housewife idea. But it's not true. I have seen it leveled at us that we are all midwestern Republicans more than once. It's all assumptions. All yo…
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 07:20 PM
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Another thing about my career which I disagree with the RPW stance is that it is an extension of my intellectual passions. Back up, where is TRP saying you can't have a career? It's not. It's saying you shouldn't put it above husband and family. it's saying it's not your source of ultimate happiness. it's saying you have value outside of it.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 06:15 PM
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Yes. But it can still be of use to us in a lot of ways. When they are right they are right, after all.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 05:53 PM
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Yeah, I was coming here to say this. It was the first thought I had "I won't take in the butt, does that count?"
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 04:58 PM
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Imagine that at the end of a date instead of standing there ready to receive a kiss, you stood with your arms crossed and glared at your date. It would take a pretty brave or very inconsiderate man to kiss you under those circumstances. If you’ve ever uttered the words, “Never mind! I’ll do it myself!” or even worse, taken action that screamed out that sentiment, you have metaphorically stood there with your fists up when it was time for a goodnight kiss. You have deterred gifts that might have …
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 04:55 PM
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Return of Kings has started Traditional Sex Roles week. This should be interesting!
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 04:45 PM
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i think the issue is women who REFUSE to let go of the finances because they really dont trust their husbands, not because it works out better. This this this a thousand times. And yet it keeps getting missed!
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 07:42 AM
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No, it's suggested that a sign of surrender in our culture is being willing to hand over control of the finances. Surendering in this book and cultural submission are separate, albeit similar, things.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 09:36 PM
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Why do you need to keep asking? Wouldn't he just come to you if he needed to?
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 05:08 PM
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Very cool!
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 05:05 PM
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is it fair to say the discussion is over? Personally, I think it should be open ended always. Things change. I need some clarification, are you insinuating that any man who doesn't do the finances in his home is not caring for his family? No. If you think he can't handle it because you will lose everything, because he will somehow mess it up, because he isn't capable.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 05:01 PM
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This is a great discussion! This chapter is controversial because it's money. What is lost on people is that this is about surrendering power not about money, per se. People that are pushing back are in large part saying without saying "I don't trust my husband". That's why this chapter is so great and also such a headache to talk to anyone about. Hand over control to hand over control. This is what is happening here. But there is a lot of fear, a lot of misunderstanding that is partially based …
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 03:41 PM
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You're missing the entire point of this chapter.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 03:25 PM
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I'm not sure where everyone is getting the idea that this is about men being "better" at math. It's obvious a ton of people haven't read the book and are getting up in arms over something they don't get. This is about surrendering first and foremost. I understand that you may be just responding to this poster in particular but it's still the main point.
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 03:23 PM
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Translation: I like to say I trust my SO but in reality I don't trust him to be able to figure out something like finances which I obviously am better at because, well, I am and here's some excuses as to why he couldn't possibly handle them as well as me. Obviously, he needs to be led in this. This exercise is in surrendering more than anything to do with men being better at finances. If you have to argue against with explanations around your superiority in the matter it's telling of how you loo…
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/14 02:04 AM
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sacrifice thousands of dollars for our retirement. You really, without a doubt, believe this would happen?
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 09:13 PM
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It's more than it just being a "masculine trait", yes. This book is about surrendering and this is a great tool for doing just that. Well, he's responsible and capable, but I'm MORE responsible and capable at this particular task. LOL I'm not sure you understand what I am getting at. This isn't a contest; he either is or he isn't. Why not give him credit where credit is due?
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 09:05 PM
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This is one of those studies that seems unnecessary. If only! The problem is so much is twisted in order to be "supportive" that people just do not get it. More emotions over reason, stuff.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 08:50 PM
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No no! You're fine. This is how we learn. I do plan on making a blog post about how we manage this a little later. But yes, you're right- his taking over the finances does not mean you never see money ever, he just dictates where it goes.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 08:48 PM
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It's certainly not that I don't think he's a capable and responsible person. That's exactly what it is. Look at it again. Not trusting your husband to do what you would do is not believing him to be capable or responsible. If you believed him to be capable and responsible you'd understand that he is capable of coming to you if something is "off" that he can't fix. I'm not saying "oh yes, trust him with doing your kids' hair" I am saying trust him with knowing what he can and can't do, don't make…
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 08:47 PM
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It doesn't show a lack of trust in my husband as it shows a need for me to know exactly how much it is safe for me to spend. I'm wondering if you read the book. I went off the ASSumption that you have because what you say above isn't connected to turning over the finances to him. So I think I may have misunderstood you based in your misunderstanding of what this entails (make sense? LOL) We toyed with the idea of him taking over the finances and agreed that if we did so I would have a separate b…
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 08:42 PM
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Yes, LAF is Christian. Like really heavily Christian.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 08:28 PM
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That's a lot of why we do it. I NEED to know what's going on with our money situation. I'm not saying you have to do this by any means but this right here shows a lack of trust in your husband.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 08:18 PM
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This topic is one that either you really agree with or you really don't, it seems. I want to reiterate that this book is not the "RPW's guide to being an RPW and if you don't comply you are not an RPW".
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 06:39 PM
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Giving up control of the money is scary because often we see money as giving us a sense of security. If there’s enough money- and we know where it is- we can assure ourselves that we will always be comfortable, that we can handle any emergency, that we can pay for any services- whether it’s a haircut or a divorce attorney. So, what happens when you give up control of the finances? You are in the most vulnerable position of all because you now have to depend on your husband to keep you safe and c…
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 05:52 PM
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I'll be sending you and RPS my therapy bill.
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/14 02:32 AM
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If you mean fit like a lot of people do these days with the obvious muscle and what not my husband is with you. he prefers curves AND meat. He likes fit girls just not what most are calling fit these days.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 10:07 PM
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THis is great! So inspiring. I always looked and felt my best as a vegan and yet I can't manage to get back on track with it.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 10:05 PM
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Ever lost a significant amount of weight? What prompted it? Was it directly related to your SO? Yes. It was pregnancy related so directly related to my SO ;) Favorite diets/workout routines? Eat-Clean Diet, though I don't eat 5 meals a day because I can't stomach eating early in the morning. I like to walk/run and do stretching exercises like yoga, pilates, and even ballet workouts. I really like repetition for some reason. That's what I like. I also do strength stuff. Anyone gone from "just ok"…
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 10:03 PM
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Like I said, he doesn't like it. I do try and do better and it is working. I'm a work in progress!
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 09:54 PM
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I really really try not to. But my default is sailor. I slip up all the time in chat. My husband doesn't like it.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 09:47 PM
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No. "FEAR: an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat." It's a way of saying "you're concern over women using this to manipulate men is founded" not a way of saying "you're such a big scaredy cat, come to mama"
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 06:41 PM
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I use my bread maker during the summer and bake in the cooler seasons. Love it!
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 04:43 PM
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There was actually an article on this very thing: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/modern-moms-arent-as-busy-as-1960s-moms-were/281997/
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 04:43 PM
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This. All of this. Exactly my thoughts.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 04:27 PM
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The standard "get fit" But my central focus this year is to be a far better homemaker. That will help in my getting fitter (being more active throughout the day, cooking healthier, etc)
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 04:21 PM
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Personally, I don't like the smell of burning human flesh.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 04:10 PM
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Olive
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 04:08 PM
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Be sure to send her our way, if and when you find her.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 03:57 PM
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As I said, this really depends on the woman herself. Some women, namely religious minded RPW, are going to find this beneficial but not others.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 03:44 PM
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Oh, you speak feminist!
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:34 AM
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This really depends on the person themselves, the level they are at. But accepting their innate natures would be a good starting point.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:22 AM
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It was found and posted. We had nothing to do with it.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 03:09 AM
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I think your fear is valid. The bigger this gets the more women are going to use it to manipulate men. What are women doing? We're learning to keep our mouths shut, to respect men, to take better care of ourselves and not expect men to love us/find us attractive simply because we have vaginas. Feminism has robbed us of femininity and we are trying to get it back while ditching the entitlement it handed to us and told us would make us happy.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 03:05 AM
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In themselves or in the world?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 03:02 AM
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I love this comment so much.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 02:54 AM
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Please let us know who she is, too, so we don't vet her as ruthlessly as we do others. ;)
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 02:47 AM
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I would definitely tell him he needs to work on himself first. "if you build it, they will come" sort of thing. I'd encourage him to accept his masculinity and run with it.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 01:33 AM
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This is greatly going to depend on the RPW. There are some women out there whether overtly RPW or RPW "in spirit" that are in a similar boat as you. You're probably not going to get a 10 but it's not impossible for you to get a good woman.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 01:31 AM
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I agree with most of your points. #2 is interesting. Care to explain it? The pay gap is a myth, that's what gets me. It's a myth and yet even the President repeats it. http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/gender_pay_gap_the_familiar_line_that_women_make_77_cents_to_every_man_s.html
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/14 12:29 AM
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This is a really good point; our men do not eclipse us they bring us out. EDIT: I feel safe enough in my husband to be myself. It has made my confidence and understanding of myself grow, actually.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 12:05 AM
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Concerned for his health, mostly. ;)
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:55 PM
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Take a breather. Give myself a "suck it up, buttercup" talking to. Remove myself from the situation until I can think clearly. I really try and think things through, first. If I feel a response is coming from my chest and not my head (you know, that upset build up you get in your chest when you are responding emotionally not intellectually) I try and real it in. Most times I take it to my husband or trust worthy friends "am I being totally emotional about this?" By sharing the steps above and te…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:49 PM
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Mostly at church is the truth of it. But I think what you are going to have to look for is RPW in the making. None of us are born RPW these days what with being dropped directly into feminism. Look for women that are open to it. You can tell with how they treat men and how they care for themselves. They are everywhere there is just so few of them...
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:45 PM
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I didn't say that. :) But I am not a fan of democracy to begin with. My views aren't against women they are against the whole institution.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:39 PM
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Do you think you can maintain your own interests, your own identity, and your own self value while in a somewhat submissive role to a man in your life? I don't think so, I live it. Think of it this way- it's really key. My husband married me for me. What would happen to our marriage if I lost me? I am also calling BS a little. One key tenet here is YAWALT, and it seems like you are the exception, just from reading. Do you really not flirt with other guys, not test the leadership ability of your …
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:38 PM
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We're all married! But maybe we'll attract some young singles in the comments.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:35 PM
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I like it! I love the secular POV. I find this blog to be fascinating. It sort of feels in the blanks you are talking about- http://gynocentrism.com/
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:34 PM
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Eliza R. Snow, not Emma, is the best historical example I find. Just throwing that out there. She knew how to be a wife and how to submit. Emma, not so much.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:33 PM
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Not all men can be Alpha but all men can build up Alpha traits. That's really how we "handle" this. It's not about finding the Alpha, they're far too rare for us all to nab one, it's about helping our men (getting out of their way, mostly) to build up those traits.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:31 PM
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Definitely physically and emotionally. The latter tends to get in the way of the mental and the intellectual.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:30 PM
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Agreed.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:29 PM
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You know how I was raised, of course I saw women like this. ;) I also read a lot of classic novels. I think Jane Austen is "in" for a reason, let's just say. There are tons of historical and fictional examples of women being women. It's even helpful to point them out when you seem them say on TV or in a movie, etc.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:28 PM
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You aren't the only one!
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:16 PM
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Are you the owner of the blog?
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:15 PM
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Is this where I tease you about already having the pick of the litter? ;) This is a tough one. She really has to be receptive is what it comes down to. As soon as that much is out of the way... 1) provide her with good examples of RPW 2) reward her (with praise, mostly) for being feminine (this is a biggie!) 3) be masculine. Hold your frame.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:14 PM
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I'm sure that would work for a lot of people and more power to them. But I think there is something to be said for a contract. It definitely means something more to put it all on the line vs just having a show of it.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:12 PM
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Yes. I watch teeny bopper shows on the CW while doing housework/running (your judgment here) and the same is true, there. Sure, there are still the whiney Beta guys but they fall all over themselves for the masculine men. I was just thinking about this very thing this morning.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:11 PM
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Close enough. Hi! :)
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:08 PM
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I offered JFK and Jackie as a more current historical. From what I have read Victoria and Albert were close to it, even if she was the ruler (she also despised feminism) As for fictional- Stingray mentioned Maria and the Captain in Sound of Music (the movie) and I think she's very right. EDIT: And from what I have read Czar Nicholas and Czarina Alexandra. She had a lot of crazy going on, though. Can't blame her. Things were a bit... stressful for them.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:07 PM
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I think it's happening. Is it taking over feminism? No, I think feminism is going to be here for a long while to come. But it's happening.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:04 PM
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THis is true. The problem is we are a culture that coddles our young. We can prevent this from happening by both actually raising adults not just older children and reestablishing the social stigma of divorce (don't get married willy nilly!)
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:03 PM
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as in seriouslyjustdropit?
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 11:00 PM
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No. It wouldn't be of benefit to anyone, I don't think, to move away. Alpha/Beta come down to traits. Beta men with high Alpha traits are desirable and just fine. I think this is what you are asking? I think so. I know it has on my blog. No. We all have our thoughts on it, though.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:55 PM
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This is a great question, almost like asking us for our elevator pitch. Natural gender roles. That's where my "pitch" would be based, the idea that abandoning the understanding of natural gender roles has made us less not more happy. They worked for us before, why is that? Why has abandoning them harmed us so much? etc
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:50 PM
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This really depends on what you are looking for. I stay home and we are far from "well off". It's not as hard as people like to think it is. But, again, it depends on what you are looking for, how you would like to live your life. But I am not in the majority on RPW. You can, in fact, work and still be a good RPW. There is nothing wrong there. But husband and home must come FIRST, always. Even housewives need to get that because there is plenty they can put first that isn't those two things.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:42 PM
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Ah, well to answer your question I would not chuck him out. But it's also important to note that "stepping out" isn't an option to him. I am not stupid enough to think stuff like that never happens or couldn't happen to us so it's something I have thought on. But for a man like my husband this simply isn't something he'd do to put me in my place after an argument. This is where the question didn't work for me.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:38 PM
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You know, it's hard to come up with something because we never quite know what is going on behind the scenes. Is JFK and Jackie current enough? Because around the 50th of his assassination I read more about her and their marriage and saw a lot of RP themes. I was inspired by how important it was to Jackie that no one see her husband in an undignified position so she laid across his body until his bodyguard covered him with his jacket. I looked at this all from Jackie's POV being a woman myself a…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:36 PM
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I don't quite understand the question.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:33 PM
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Up your "girl game". Femininity brings out masculinity. Ian Ironwood's advice about issuing a challenge is a good idea, too.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:32 PM
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I understand it and am sympathetic for the most part. Some of it stings but then you have to ask yourself why it stings and where they are coming from.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:31 PM
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Yes. I also don't view them as "unsavory". All that seems pretty benign to me.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:29 PM
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No, I will never ever ignore it. We live in it. They have to know all about it in order to arm themselves against it. I give them my opinion but also teach them about it objectively. It's not all "this is the worse thing ever, run away!" It's important they get it on an intellectual level.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:27 PM
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LOL I'm not uncomfortable. Your entire question is bating and makes little sense, though. If my husband slept with another woman we'd work it out. It's not a deal breaker. But as for his sleeping with another woman to make some sort of point because I acted out? That doesn't make sense in an LTR framework.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:25 PM
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This is impossible to answer because the entire premise is a false one.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:18 PM
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Fear? Suck it up, buttercup. If we hurt your feelings imagine what an RP man would do to you.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:12 PM
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I think marriage can still be worth something. But I'm a woman and don't have the threat of having my balls cooked over hot coals, so... But in general I think marriage is still worth something. As for evidence, I got nothing that isn't purely anecdotal.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:11 PM
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No doubt her father would have words for her.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:10 PM
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This is a pretty extreme example. The short answer is he wouldn't just go out and sleep with some other woman if I was "acting out", he'd correct me head on.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:09 PM
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It's way easier to say who isn't these days, sadly. Let me think on this, too.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:01 PM
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I don't have an issue with this, either. But if they are a repeat offender with "Well, I am sort of RP buuuut...." it quickly turns into how they aren't RP and how we should adopt that, too.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:59 PM
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Note that more "traditional" ways of viewing men, women, and relationships are seeing a resurgence at the same time. I think people are realizing the promises of modern mainstream feminism aren't actually a thing and are, in a very real sense, "going back" to what worked before. I think Red Pill in particular is popular because it doesn't candy coat the truth which makes it more available.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:58 PM
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When has your other halves' behaviour become unacceptable and how did you resolve that? It hasn't. But your examples aren't what I consider "unacceptable" What if you thought you weren't acting like a cunt? If he thinks I was I probably was. I try and shut up and think on it before I react. What if you were acting a cunt and you knew it? He usually knows when I know and puts my in my place, calls me on it. "Go pout in the room until you can address me like an adult" sort of thing.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:55 PM
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Feel free to PM me a link to the user/conversation so I can figure out what you are talking about. I don't want to derail this thread, though.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:51 PM
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For women marrying young is marrying in our prime. We have more time to have healthy children and we are giving our husbands the best of us. Wife goggles come into play eventually with the help of the memory of that 20-something girl you knew once upon a time. Delaying marriage and children is not in a woman's favor. We age like milk, after all, as do our ovaries. EDIT: it also is beneficial to grow with your husband, not grow and then think you just add him into your life. It really doesn't wor…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:47 PM
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We get a ton of trolls all the time. It's not a matter of disagreement we also look into their posting history and will talk with them (though not always). 90% of the people that come in are there to "save us from ourselves". We're trying to maintain a space where women can focus on self-improvement not constantly have to fight with everyone and their aunt about the merit of what we are or aren't doing.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:45 PM
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I would like to hear an example of each, too! Let me think in this for a few minutes. Just wanted you to know I did see your inquiry.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:39 PM
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No but we've always been like rabbits. However the quality is something else entirely. Way better.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:34 PM
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To me it's the feminist dream- women are just like men, we don't need men, our worth is measured by our degrees and careers, and if any man doesn't want us he's just weak and bad and stupid. AKA grrrrrrrl power. Finding out women are actually the weaker sex, that we are different, that our biology won't be happy with pretending to be men, etc is a huge part of taking the Red Pill in this modern world.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:33 PM
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When they are younger, the latter. When they are older and hopefully already have that "sugarcoated" foundation then the former.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:30 PM
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I answered this a bit a few days ago here /r/RedPillWomen/comments/1vj3bv/advice_a_father_of_a_six_year_old_girl/cesroiq I am also raising daughters and this is heavy on my mind daily. My #1 piece of advice is live it and surround your daughters with people that live it. Not Red Pill per se, as that would be hard, but there are still examples of good women out there in life, literature, history, etc.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:29 PM
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A lot of things I found in Red Pill were things I already knew on some level and when I found it I felt very vindicated in a way. Like "Yes! I knew it! And people thought I was crazy!" I pretty much said just that to my husband. Nothing had to convince me, per se. I saw the truth in it immediately. If it was any one thing, though, it'd be the idea of SMV. I'm not quite understanding the second part of your question, could you expound?
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:26 PM
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Yes, we are. Currently they are too young for any "sit down" advice but we already are telling them marrying young is ideal, to stay healthy and fit, to respect men, etc. I try and lead by example, mostly. But we also want them to know that men and marriage are worthwhile and so they need to be worthwhile themselves, not just expect everything to come to them.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:22 PM
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Like a historical/fictional example?
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:19 PM
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The negatives generally lead to positives. For example: it's hard for me to hold my tongue, I don't want to get off my butt and exercise or clean the house, etc. But sucking it up and dealing has led to some really great things. It's harder being in a Red Pill relationship and it's also more rewarding. EDIT: and hopefully that came close to answering your question.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:18 PM
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Oh no, we get tons of crap. Maybe not as much as you do but we have our fair share of trolls, even of the "concerned" variety. They like to send us numbers to abuse hotlines.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:13 PM
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Don’t hesitate to tell your husband what you want, whether it’s a vacation, new furniture, piano lessons for the kids, time to yourself, or even a baby. But make sure you are describing an end-result, not telling him how to do it. (pg. 78) This is an art ladies, and a fine line. Your thoughts?
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/14 04:10 PM
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Why not devote those energies to bigger social issues that affect women, like wider access to family planning methods, or the fight against sex trafficking? How are these two issues not also related to men? Why do we only need to focus on the women within these? THIS is why I disagree with feminism in large part. It likes to pretend that women are the only ones that suffer, the only ones that need advocacy. There are a lot of countries where women don't have many legal rights at all... that shou…
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/14 03:38 PM
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Well, if by feminist you mean that women deserve basic human rights like the right to be physically safe, the right to free speech, the right to own property, and the like, then yes. I am a feminist. One thing feminism has done is to make it seem like these are things they own. Meaning, if you believe this you're a feminist whether you like it or not. But it's not that way at all. One can stand for those things and not be a feminist. It's called human rights and feminism has little to do with it…
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/14 03:34 PM
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FleetingWish beat me to it but it's such an important point I am going to reiterate it- none of the things you mentioned are because of the feminist movement. Women were allowed to get an education far before it, the right to vote preceded the feminist movement, wasn't a part of it. What feminism has done is gone back and placed their label on the advances for women of the past. It's how they keep us "feminist" "Without feminism I wouldn't have gone to college so I'm thankful for feminism" But i…
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/14 03:31 PM
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What dana said. But It's interesting to me how little women seem to understand what feminism is and isn't. Of course I was the same way so...
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/14 12:29 AM
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Yup. A lot like you were, too.
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/14 12:25 AM
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Knitting. Cooking. I am working on running and yoga.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/14 07:17 PM
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I confess, I have been wanting to use the gif for forever.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 08:24 PM
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Surrendering takes patience and concentration, which are nearly impossible to conjure when you’re fried and frazzled. Usually there’s a direct connection between self-care and your level of tolerance for your husband. (pg. 69) I'd love to have a discussion about ways we can take care of ourselves to help us stay strong and focused!
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 04:33 PM
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My husband loved Ginnifer Goodwin... until that haircut.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 04:29 PM
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Sorry, you're no longer allowed to participate in anything RPW or surrender related. Joking! If it was integral she would have mentioned it FIRST not in chapter 3. You're fine.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/14 09:12 PM
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Today's chapter is an easy one, the title really says it all. Don't talk about your surrendering process with your man. There's no point, it'll get in the way.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/14 03:58 PM
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Dana, I am going to link to where you got this just for reference: http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/2014/01/team-woman.html I absolutely agree with the above. And I truly believe that because women are the weaker sex we have to "team up" in order to feel safe. I think it's instinctual. Not excusing it, just pointing it out. I also think we feel panicked for women we see sort of "out in the open" and want to circle the wagons to protect her. This would help in the wild, not so much in the …
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 07:19 PM
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Another depressing comment: I found this talk frustratingly traditionalist, the first time I watched it. It seems to suggest that the only way to happiness is to follow a prescribed, normative path. This can actually be damaging to some people, and by and large the majority of people in their 20s are not going to be in a position to follow Jay's advice. If not, should we feel bad about it? No. Life is both too short and too long to fixate on a single decade.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 03:39 AM
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The comments are what I expected, sadly. Check out the current first one: Meg's advice is great if you want to follow in the traditional lifestyle of having a partner, kids, dog and house with white picket fence, but there's a lot of us that don't want that. I am 32, and for the last 7 years I've been focused on exactly what Meg was talking about, working myself up in my career of choice, trying to find the right person to settle in with, feeling bad while friends and family where getting marrie…
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 03:37 AM
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Journaling. Mini-spa stuff in the bathroom with the door locked and music going. "Burn books" where I write down stuff I shouldn't ever say out loud and then burn it. Making plans. That one always helps. I make plans to make things better.
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 11:18 PM
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Chapter 2 of The Surrendered Wife being discussed over at GBG. Stop telling your husband what to do, what to wear, what to say and how to do things, even if you think you’re helping. As much as possible, mind your own business. Recognize that when your urge to control him comes up, you may be feeling fear that isn’t appropriate to the situation. (pg. 45)
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 05:08 PM
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I'll ban you and never talk to you again. Seriously though, those people are not interested in what we actually do, who we actually are. It's way more fun to just make crap up about us and fill in the blanks. :/
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/14 09:25 PM
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That being said I have the worst sense of direction so the likelihood of the scenario happening in real life is pretty much zero Exactly this. Of course in our heads and supported by society we really believe if we don't "help" our men to stay on the right track (literally and figuratively) by always correcting them they won't be able to figure it out for themselves. This is how we turn into to helicopter mothers instead of wives.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 04:49 PM
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I know that a lot of people (myself included at first) get hung up on or at least are like "I'm sorry, what now?" about this quote: Respect means when he takes the wrong freeway exit you don’t correct him by telling him where to turn. It means that if he keeps going in the wrong direction you will go past the state line and still not correct what he is doing. In fact, no matter what your husband does, you will not try to teach, improve, or correct him. That is the essence of a surrendered wife. …
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/14 04:20 PM
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I'm going to come at this as a parent and a woman. I think it's important that all children these days are taught accountability and responsibility. No one wants to take care of themselves these days. It's important they learn not to wallow in self-pity ("That bully said I was this WAAAAHHHH!"), to feel empowered to deal with/change their lives ("I can lose weight if I want to, I'm not the victim of my genetics"), and how to overall handle their own so they don't feel inclined to follow the crow…
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/14 05:27 PM
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Did you check under "new"? If they are downvoted they won't appear on the front page.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 09:28 PM
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Jump right in with your thoughts on the intro.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 09:05 PM
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An important and very telling point is that this is no guy, she's a woman as is the other vengeful blogger. No need to delete your comment, I thought I made a good overall point.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 03:24 AM
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Can't say I disagree here. But it does go deeper with these women in particular. There is not trusting us outright, which I agree with, and then there is going out of your way to be vile towards us. These women have opted for the latter, unfortunately.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 03:11 AM
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Oh, you're fine! It's better that everyone be aware of them and know what might happen if they attempt to engage. No worries!
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 02:25 AM
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There is a load of crazy going on with the blogger and another blogger who are having a field day bashing Red Pill women. The gist is this- they were on the scene first, how dare other women try and improve themselves, EVERYONE IS LYING!!!!, insert more shrill erratic behavior here. Ignore them. Trust me, giving them attention only makes them cling to you. They are known to follow people around and harass them. One of them did so to me for a bit and pops up now and again on GBG with one vile thi…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 02:07 AM
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I already had Red Pill-like leanings. Years before I had read up on wifely submission both in kink and in "reality" and decided it was for us. But when my husband started reading Red Pill Room and I saw it over his shoulder I decided to investigate more. While he was at work I dug more into it than we had a conversation about how it encompassed what we had been thinking/feeling for a long long time- relationship hierarchy based in nature and reality vs. play/kink. The closest we had come was Tak…
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/14 04:23 PM
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and all of the trappings of being the Alpha in the relationship. Those are not all the trappings of being the Alpha in the relationship. I read this sub and it seems like many if not all of you are part time or full time homemakers. And many of us aren't. Being a homemaker or being the primary breadwinner is besides the point. The Red Pill is compatible either which way. Read the sub some more and you will see we have hashed this very question out over and over again. Making more money does not …
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/14 03:27 AM
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GBG will be starting up its first book club with The Surrendered Wife coming Friday (sorry I completely forgot to link this here until now). The Surrendered Wife is an excellent (secular!) book on wifely submission that personally got me started on the path long before I discovered Red Pill. I hope some of you will join us!
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/14 01:52 AM
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Haven't read the comments but I will weigh in- Yes, I am religious, no I am not Red Pill because I am religious. I came to abhor feminism and value submission/Red Pill when I was not religious or believing at all. IMO Red Pill principles stand on their own without religion but both are very compatible. Is the fact that the articles linked here tend to be on Christian blogs simply a coincidence due to the absence of non-religious women with Red Pill views? Though I am religious I try and keep my …
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/14 01:41 AM
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Welcome!
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/14 01:37 AM
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we recognize exclusivity and commitment are not equally valued by all women and thats fine, but advice on how to let a man waste the pretty (your teens and 20's) spinning you as a plate only to leave you high and dry as an alpha widow at 30 is the OPPOSITE of what we are trying to accomplish and will not be well received. This this this this this. And any woman that tries to put this out as good advice is either a troll or completely deluding herself. Run away from said women, Run far far away.
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/14 01:36 AM
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Me too! As well as "meekness not weakness".
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 06:43 PM
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Agreed. I think it's important that we stick with the topic at hand vs religion. This is why, though I am Catholic, I attempt to stay "secular" on my blog and GBG. RP/wifely submission/anti-feminism has merit outside of religion and within it. It stands on its own. We need more people to get that.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 06:43 PM
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I am super curious to see where this goes. I'll be keeping my eye on it.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 06:40 PM
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No lie, as I was typing it out I thought "Dana is going to take exception to this." It's like I know you! Something I hope to talk about re: abuse in relationships soon/later on my blog is how the goal posts keep being moved. What is abuse and what is 'abuse'? These days a man saying "You know, I really wish you wouldn't go out with your friends tonight" is considered 'emotional abuse'. I call BS on that. It's not that being in a sub/dom relationships is abusive it's that we're changing the "rul…
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 06:35 PM
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ROFL
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/14 04:40 AM
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Was it Athol Kay's book?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/14 04:01 AM
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This is a great idea. First you actually have to want to improve, though.
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/14 03:57 AM
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You're biggest red flag is that you are both wrapped up in your own self-importance and think there is nothing wrong with that. If you think you're practically perfect in every way, good on you! But why come to a forum like this to begin with and why let it fill you with doubt? Methinks you aren't as confident as you think you are and methinks you know why.
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/14 03:56 AM
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It's very frustrating to constantly read about how entitled and awful women are, when there really doesn't seem to be much attention paid to how men act towards us. There is a reason for this. The Manosphere is a reaction to our modern society and our modern society panders to and coddles women. You hear about "dead beat dads" and "bad guys" all day every day but women get a pass. This is interpreted as the Manosphere being anti-women when, in fact, they are anti entitled women and feminism (and…
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 02:29 AM
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Or maybe I'm meeting the wrong ones. You're meeting the wrong ones for your needs. Have you joined us at Girls Being Girls yet? If nothing else it's a good LTR-focused Manosphere hub.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 02:25 AM
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Could easily be both. Which is just... really sad.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 02:23 AM
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Giiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrl smh ;)
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 02:11 AM
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This is all kink. I wonder what would happen if you started reading classic books and lamenting "the way things were... when men were men and women were women" type of thing. Not suggesting this is a fix but there is a difference between kink and a relationship change like this. I'm also not knocking kink. (I love the Anne Rice Sleeping Beauty trilogy)
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 01:49 AM
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Be feminine and charming first, of course, and show you have qualities that other women lack. These days that includes being able to respect a man, cook a good meal, and clean up after yourself. But towards your question "how do you find them?" that's a toughy for both sexes. Many men on the Christian Manosphere are lamenting not being able to find good women. With how entitled and all around lazy people are these days it's really hard! One option is to stop looking for the whole package and ins…
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/13 01:47 AM
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"we are not attracted to a woman's career or ambition" =/= "we only want hot mindless women" though. It simply means they value things over being career oriented/obsessed. They want a woman they can come home to not a woman that is more invested in her work outside of the home and their relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 10:14 PM
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Just because we dislike feminism, doesn't mean we can go around blaming them for all the wrongs in the world. I agree. And more than likely there is more to this. But the same can be said for religion, no? However, the point still stands in this. What feminism has bread has negatively impacted those with more to lose in society than those who have the luxury of engaging in societal experiments while not being directly impacted by the fall out. They do not know about, or have access to birth cont…
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 09:47 PM
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In short, I don't think feminists are directly or indirectly advocating this type of behavior for lower class women. Maybe not (probably not) but what they have advocated for, the way they have changed the social landscape, has had a direct impact on these women and children.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 09:39 PM
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You can't logically blame religion for this. The same religion preaches abstinence. However, our culture preaches "free" sex and that having a baby alone is perfectly fine if not ideal and that it's acceptable to depend on outside sources for aid. Religion doesn't do this. Religion says "keep it in your pants until you're married" which does offer more stability. Religion has become a favorite whipping boy which leads to illogical conclusions about its role in things. Consider this- religion is …
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 09:36 PM
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you arent supposed to be submissive to a bad man, you are supposed to find a GOOD man and submit to him--lol i think this gets confused Quoting for truth.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 09:24 PM
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Of course, I haven't done home-making. I'm 23. What does age have to do with anything? At 23 I had been homemaking for about 3 or 4 years. Here's my question: of all the men I've dated, and even been friends with, not one has been a man. They all have been people less capable, hard-working, and driven than I am. I feel you here. This is a problem with our generation (I'm a few years older than you) more than it is with men in general, though. I don't think anyone said it would be easy to find th…
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 09:01 PM
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First of all: it's okay if your husband is Beta. The Beta/Alpha stuff is really confusing as it gets thrown around for so much and has so many definitions. Here's the thing: very very few men are bona fide Alphas. Most men are Beta males. The point isn't to make every man an Alpha (that's impossible) but to bring up Alpha traits in men. I do understand your meaning here and hope is not lost! Men are emasculated by our culture so it often times takes some doing to repair that. What it comes down …
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 08:20 PM
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What are you even talking about? Can the trolls please start learning what TRP actually is before posting? Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 08:09 PM
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^ THIS!
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 08:08 PM
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So how exactly does this work? I'm can't rely on my looks, so I work. Because I work, I'm not the housewife type. Also because I work, money-grubbing losers are attracted to me. How can I get a stereotypical man, who's reasonably attractive, and makes enough money to pay his own bills? Not so I can be a housewife, but so I don't have to support someone? Do I need to be more attractive? Do I need to be less intelligent or less successful? Do I need to seem like I'm less capable than I am? I don't…
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 08:07 PM
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This. It's not rocket science! Good men aren't looking for perfect women (because they don't exist) they are looking for good women. Up your game- work on improving your physical and work on being a better partner and you've got it.
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 07:59 PM
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First off I agree with what people have said here. Dump him. I'm trying to be supportive and make him feel like he's a "man", but honestly he kind of sucks. So dump him. He doesn't make any money, he doesn't contribute jack-shit, meanwhile I work between 40-60 hours a week and then I have to come home and cook and clean. I'm the man and the woman and I have this bum of a roommate that lives rent free. So dump him. Reading your post and your responses you are either 1) a troll or 2) have no idea …
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/13 07:56 PM
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Seriously though, how many people are bleeding out the eyes from this revelation?
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/13 10:43 PM
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Wait, Dana is a woman?! How can this be?!
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/13 10:15 PM
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If it comes to that point she isn't a woman worth wasting time on. If a woman doesn't want to live up to the boundaries set in your relationship and continues to "disobey" then she obviously isn't invested in the relationship. Why would a man want to waste time an energy on a woman like that? Why would anyone? I understand that you are kajira? Within your dynamic this sort of exchange would make sense as he is your master and you are slave. This is a part of your dynamic, of your being his prope…
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/13 01:10 AM
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If a man feels he has to beat his wife like that because she isn't complying he is failing at being a man and being a husband. A man in full control of himself and his marriage wouldnt have to resort to this.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/13 10:08 PM
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That's still not technically leaving work though is it? But back to the main point though this may be possible at some point in a child's life but for the vast majority of adolescent you're not going to be able to escape kids that easily.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 08:56 PM
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Oh don't get me wrong, I agree that it's ridiculous that modern women are "pushed to their limits" by doing exactly what it is we're supposed to be doing. That's not my stance at all. My theory is that it's so difficult for modern women because they arent raised to be homemakers anymore. It is a complete foreign concept to our society, whereas before we were born and bred to do it.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 08:55 PM
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I am very well aware that I'm an outlier. I even expressed that in my post.I also don't expect a gold star. I am literally doing what I'm meant to be doing. The idea that women who raise their own children deserve a gold star is ludicrous. The idea that it is not work and can be done easily is also ludicrous. That is my only point.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 08:51 PM
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What is often missed is that in days of old we had a community helping us, it wasn't just mom staying home it was moms and aunts and sisters and grandmothers and great grandmothers etc. This is not to say that modern women have it worse or better its just to say the two are really not as comparable as we think they are.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 08:41 PM
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Your first few points were already addressed in my post. As for if I'm exaggerating, no not really. Have you ever made bread from scratch? Have you ever cooked a full meal from scratch? Have you ever done so for several children? Have you ever done so with children with dietary needs? It really does take a lot of time even with the employment of a crock pot and freezer meals. Thankfully I found my groove. Remember I said I could take me all day. It has the potential to be a job all its own. That…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 08:35 PM
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You're completely missing the point of what both I and the author of the blog post said. Its not that stay at home moms can't have coffee it's that they can't take a break from work to do so. What the author was doing in the post would not be possible for a SAHM during her work time.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 08:30 PM
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Really? How often does a SAHM tell her husband when he enters the door "Oh, thank God you're home, I haven't peed the whole day!"? I think you misunderstood me. My point was that SAHMs can't "escape" from their kids that easily. If they don't even let you go to the bathroom on your own they aren't going to let you enjoy a coffee alone, either.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 07:35 PM
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She works at home, she can damn well choose if she wants to get a cup of coffee or not. LOL. Nope. A constant joke among SAHMs is whether or not we got to pee without a baby or two on our laps that day. Good luck being able to leave the kids to be able to have coffee or even have coffee at your own kitchen table without them crawling all over you. That's the difference he is referring to. Once those kids are in school she has 8 hours of alone time a day where she chooses what she does. To be fai…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 06:38 PM
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The world does need more stay at home moms, but not the modern, lazy, bitch variety we have today. We need moms who know their role, know their husband's role, and respect both roles. Absolutely.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 06:33 PM
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You're talking about some mothers and some homes. This isn't what my home looks like and I don't believe it's what the blog author's home looks like either. We have more than 3 kids. I cook from scratch. We homeschool. I was washing dishes by hand until we moved into a much newer house recently. We live pretty "old school" though obviously not Amish-like. My point is that even with these advances we still have hard work to do at home. If you actually do the work. Many SAHMs don't, I'll give you …
/r/TheRedPill11/10/13 06:28 PM
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but I don't think it's acceptable to let a man beat you in front of your kids I don't think "let" comes into it, honestly. We talk here all the time about how women are the weaker sex. He wants to beat her, he is going to beat her. That's a really scary thought, isn't it? This is why I said in my OP to run for the hills if he displays behavior like this, where he is so out of control of himself. It's also incredibly complicated. The rationalization hamster runs with this, as well. "He'll change"…
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 06:13 PM
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We've talked about Taken in Hand before as well as the more general idea of Domestic Discipline. In some more traditional relationships (but not all) the man disciplines the woman either physically (like spanking) or with things like writing lines or standing in the corner. It's the same way people use to discipline children (well, and wives) just done with grown women. It works for some, doesn't for others.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 05:51 PM
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"This is why we still need feminism!" is something said over and over again. I just read a NYT article about this woman whose mother abandoned her for feminism, to the point where this child wasn't eating. The comments were half supportive and half ridiculous. Many echoed the "this is why feminism is needed!" argument complete with excuses and failed logic.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 05:30 PM
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I completely agree that it's too generalized. But the depression rate is so high here as to definitely deflate the assertion that feminism had about making us happy, fulfilled, liberated, etc.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 05:17 PM
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But, there are also a lot of feminists who are not depressed. Though I agree with your greater point exceptions to the rule do not necessarily change the rule. I think the greater issue here is that we are sold that the Feminist Fantasy will make us happy and free. Obviously it hasn't done that.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:52 PM
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Seriously, explain why it IS any of your business. Everyone's business must be all of ours because the personal is the political and visa versa. It's utter BS.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:51 PM
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This, too. Depression is a societal issue these days not just a gender one.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:50 PM
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Feminist cite the fact that anti-depressants are in high use among housewives to show how horrible and oppressive it is (Utah is now or at least once was the highest for antidepressant usage) but what they fail to realize is that these women are still, in large part, not submissive and aren't traditional housewives. Meaning, the issues these women are facing aren't because they are in a more submissive role but because they are obsessed with status and appearances. It's very similar to feminists…
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:49 PM
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( awesome book to compare it to, was the pun intended?) LOL Nope. But hilarious!
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:41 PM
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If I were to list all of the mistakes I have made and continue to make it'd take me months and be the size of War & Peace. Could you be a bit more specific?
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:02 PM
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How about it RPW, was it always this good or did you have a learning curve? Always this good? Learning curve? I'm not sure if you are referencing me when you say "long-time RPW who regularly comment here" but I'll answer you anyway. No, not always this good and yes, there are still hiccups. I'm still learning. Probably will be forever.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:02 PM
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We were high school sweethearts. Neither of us were really thinking about finding a partner in the way most here are now. It was classic young love. But we both knew we wanted to marry and have a family it just wasn't quite as developed as it gets to be in your twenties when the clock is running out. We married a year later at 18.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 01:58 AM
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You're probably confused because they distort what we say, latch on to other trolls or bona fide crazies as representing us and what the Red Pill is about while ignoring when they are taken to task by real posters. Most of what the other group attacks us for isn't even legit. They dont understand what the Red Pill is and isn't. Their whole basis is mocking their distorted view of us not actually who we are or what we are saying. They even assert most of us here aren't even women, myself included…
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/13 02:00 PM
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I understand what you are saying and I certainly don't disagree. I suppose I see it as the act itself being weak but because it comes from a position of strength it becomes neutral and therefore doesn't have the same affects it would if you were weak and being weak. Think of a Beta male crying and an Alpha male crying. They offer different emotional reactions, from me at least.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:50 PM
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There have been times when I "wasn't in the mood", but he also knows what gets me into the mood. For me, knowing that he wants me does it. Coming out the other side of "not in the mood" sex always makes me feel better. This is a really important point too many miss. It takes a bit for women to get in the mood. But these days we seem to mistakenly think we have to be "in the mood" before anything starts in order for it to be valid or good. This simply doesn't work, though. There is nothing wrong …
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:44 PM
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I like this!
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:32 PM
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That's a good distinction, too. That would make for a man that is Beta because he is allowing hie Beta-ness to rule out by pandering to his wife. Pandering = Beta.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:31 PM
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I would say behavior that is weak done from a position of strength and dominance is neutral not weak.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:28 PM
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You're mistaken. The evidence is that it is not a good path to take all of the time. This is what makes for a Beta male. Beta males are not what the women here want. But men with Beta traits, are. Conversely, we also don't want men to be all Alpha all the time.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:28 PM
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You're still confusing being Beta with having Beta traits. A Beta male is a man who has too many Beta traits, someone who is stuck in the provider role in all the wrong ways. Having Beta traits is something completely different; it is taking those beneficial traits and putting them to use not letting them rule him or the situation. The same goes for Alpha. For TRP it is a bad thing to bring out Beta traits because they don't want to provide for women, that is not their objective. Offering comfor…
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 04:21 PM
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Ian Ironwood describes Beta in general like this: Less dominant modes of behavior, designed to project comfort and security as opposed to sexual attraction. Typically, behaviors designed to inspire the production of the hormone Oxytocin in women. Whereas he defines Alpha in general as this: Dominant modes or behaviors designed by evolution (or God, depending on what flavor of Kool Aide you like) to inspire raw sexual attraction in a mate. So in this case the man is trying to comfort and offer th…
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 03:52 PM
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But sometimes I just need to throw my woman down and have her, NOW. Just because she's mine. And I want to remind her she's mine. I will mark her as mine and she will carry that mark all day long. No shower after happy fun time. Yum.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 03:37 PM
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You forgot the good cry. It goes before all the other reasoned and effective responses.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 03:33 PM
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http://girlsbeinggirls.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/submit-a-post/ Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 03:31 PM
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She would benefit more if he was strong enough to change her emotional state for the better. This really depends on the situation. If I was constantly stressed over, say, money he could change that by providing more or handling whatever situation. But if I am sad because a friend just died there is no changing that. No strength in the world could stop me from mourning that. There are times for women that we just need to be loved on just like there are times for men that they just need to be left…
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 02:51 PM
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There is a lot of confusion over Alpha, Beta, etc, pretty much because it is used differently depending on the context. I like to think of it this way- a man is Beta if his Beta qualities greatly dominate his Alpha qualities. So a Beta male is very emotional, clingy, weak but Beta qualities; which are love, affection, tenderness, etc; are needed in a relationship to maintain it. What you are looking for is the right mix of Alpha and Beta qualities.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 02:49 PM
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I love love love Baked Potato soup! EmBright, could I bother you to submit this to GBG?
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 02:16 AM
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I'll tell you the same thing I would tell a man complaining about his wife's loose vagina- commitment. Period. Make it work.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 01:24 AM
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And here I thought all of you were hopeless homophobes! You really just have no idea. No clue. That's what it comes down to. You're attacking your idea of us not who we really are. You're incredibly invested in the little fantasy of us you have created. Sad.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 01:22 AM
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Most men cannot support a stay-at-home wife in today's economy. Not true. Most men can, most people don't want to live the way that means you'd have to live. People that look at my husband would probably say he couldn't afford it. Yet we do and live comfortably. It's about rejecting consumer culture and living simply. If you want to do it it can be done.
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/13 11:18 PM
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In a lot of cases it's cheaper to stay home than to deal with child care. It is in our case. I can't afford to work!
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/13 11:17 PM
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I want to echo this. We are far (far!) from wealthy. We just make sacrifices. You really have to reject the idea of what is "needed" in our current society. We don't need half the things we think we do!
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/13 11:16 PM
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it would be cool if there were a more interactive way to get my daily dose of RP wisdom There is no female version of http://vivalamanosphere.com/ I know that's not exactly what you are looking for, though. I know a lot of the stuff I mentioned is stuff you can already do elsewhere on the net, but not necessarily in one spot, and definitely not specifically focused toward RPW. LOL this is exactly the reason I wanted to form GBG. Great minds... I didn't want to limit it to just RPW, though, as th…
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/13 11:02 PM
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I want to mix that up to get the user more involved GBG is attempting this. It's far more lively than it is here, in fact. LOL The more participation the bigger it will get. Please feel free to make submissions and submit an Ask GBG over there! GBG really rests on everyone interacting. Tempest is right in that we have thrown around the idea of having a forum. I do know how to go about it as I have had a few of my own that I created an admined a few years back but I'm in a "wait and see" mode wit…
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/13 10:51 PM
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To be fair Catholics believe in NFP which is a form of birth control.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 01:14 PM
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This, absolutely.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 06:55 AM
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We don't use them. Going off of personal experience would be a poor argument hence it not being one I made. As you yourself have admitted, they fail. Percentage means nothing when it's you they fail on. The idea that you are safe as long as you wear a condom is a false one. Of course you are safer but it's no guarantee. Unfortunately too many people think it is and are dumbfounded when it turns out their bodies worked the way they were supposed to. I'm not saying don't use birth control I am say…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 06:46 AM
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Or he might have been using one and it failed. Because that happens.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 04:49 AM
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Condoms fail. Any man who doesn't get that... well, have fun.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 04:48 AM
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I can't like this comment enough.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 04:47 AM
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but I do wonder if there is space within feminism to come back to respecting gender equality Whether there is or isn't is irrelevant to me. We don't need feminism to achieve freedom and equality. Right now it is the antithesis of both. Why bother? It's a lot of work for something we don't even need.
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/13 09:43 PM
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The other version of feminism that I have encountered (and the one that is the one put forth in this comic), is that true feminism means the power and freedom of choice to lead the kind of life you prefer as a woman. This choice may mean a life that looks like the independent/men-disdaining/femininity-rejecting archetype of a feminist that is disapproved of in the RP community, or it might look like the kind of life we, as RPW are pursuing. Simply put, no. This sort of feminism actually does not…
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/13 03:26 PM
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I wouldn't say bimbos are feminine. They are "fake" and self-absorbed. That's not anywhere near the goal of an RPW and RP men has talked about how they value natural beauty and to stay away from girls that have to really doll themselves up and are high maintenance. I guess I don't see why this is such a concern for you, why you think it is something RP should be concerned about when it so clearly doesn't work with it. I certainly would not want a daughter to go there. Personally, I want my daugh…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 06:07 PM
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True. Though "comfort and love" can look like many things.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 04:10 PM
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She is also a working woman LOL I mean a woman that works outside of the home, not a prostitute. ;)
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 02:21 PM
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Besides GBG as Tempest suggested look into Laura Doyle's The Surrendered Wife. She is also a working woman (and childless, if that matters to anyone) who has rejected the feminist relationship model.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 02:20 PM
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If women can't empathize then it's understandable, but at the very least they shouldn't exasperate the fact that they can't. It's not so much that women can't empathize it's that generally we empathize verbally and men don't.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 01:34 PM
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Question: what can a guy do to quickly provide comfort and let a woman know that she is truly not part of the issue? I'm not sure he can do much of anything, honestly. 1) he may not be in the position to so much as think about that and 2) as you said, it's hard to convince her. I think it may be more important for women to remind themselves it may not be, and probably isn't, about them. For men damage control seems the most likely scenario. In which case comfort and love.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 01:32 PM
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A post I made over at GBG this morning. When I challenge his opinion by acting as if it is wrong because it is not my own I am being ungrateful and disrespectful. Extremely disrespectful, actually. I am, in effect, telling him that he both has no right to an opinion (shrewing) and that his opinion is somehow misinformed and needs to be corrected (mothering). Yikes.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/13 01:20 PM
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An investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views. Tempest used a public example to show what a bad girlfriend looks like after that very same women was here saying the same things. That isn't a witch hunt in the least.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 01:17 AM
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To go to the trouble of searching through her post history and dredging up her other posts to shame her... Let me clear something up here- Tempest is a mod. This is what we do. We go through the posts of people posting to make sure they aren't trolls. Tempest more than likely didn't set out to find this stuff, she happened on it when she was doing her job as a mod. I feel the same about this post. That's your prerogative. But you've taken it one step further and into moral superiority.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 01:06 AM
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I don't think you actually understand what is going on here. So because the rest of the world fails to be open-minded to our philosophies, we are justified in doing the same to other folks. This has nothing to do at all with this conversation. This conversation is using the example she gave us to show what a bad girlfriend is. This actually isn't uncommon even on this very sub-Reddit, it's just that it generally is handled in the original thread in a post there. Tempest decided, instead, to make…
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:56 AM
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No. My example was not a description of their relationship just an example of how off your assessment was. She's a bad girlfriend. A really bad one. He's not very smart at all for staying with her. He's not what she is looking for. At all. She's not very smart for staying with him. They both are making foolish choices in this though she was the one who decided to go online and play the victim (which was obvious in her post here) which makes her even lower. But that's besides the point. These two…
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:51 AM
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Has this ever actually worked for anyone? A lot of Red Pillers, actually.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:46 AM
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She asked for advice, wanted to know what we thought of her situation. Here it is.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:45 AM
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I don't think you understand how the internet or Reddit works. This is not real life. This is exactly what can be expected from posting online, especially on Reddit. Have you never been to the sub-reddits doing just this to us?
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:44 AM
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She was playing victim and painting him as a lazy ingrate. How was that not bad mouthing? How is that not Blue Pill?
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:43 AM
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bored restless women are the pharmacoepia devil's playthings As someone with a diagnosis in this vein raised by a bipolar woman I have to shout an AMEN to that! We should chat about this one day, Dana. You have my email.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:42 AM
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so something she's doing must be working As much as throwing someone in a prison to get them to stay in one place is "working".
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:40 AM
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I'm bipolar so I can act as badly as I want This. I know bipolar on a personal level. You lose all sympathy from me when you use it as an excuse to be a bad person. What's worse is when people do it for you.
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:39 AM
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If you have an issue with a post or a poster take it to a mod. In this case you'd be taking it to the OP of this thread. If you have such an issue with being "mean" by pointing someone's inconsistencies out you probably shouldn't have called Tempest out here. It's mean? It's cruel? Welcome to the internet. Actually, scratch that, welcome to the world today. We do this to celebrities as a sport these days. Though I personally wouldn't have posted something like this I don't have an issue with it …
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/13 12:38 AM
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One major benefit of strict monogamy is that sex with the only person you are with will be the best sex you'll ever have. I get that this isn't ideal to many people (because "what if...") but it's still a perk. Promiscuity of any kind waters down your sexual experience with one person. Does it ruin it? No. Does it have to do with bonding, per se? Really not sure but on some level I think it does. But if you are use to all the flavors of ice cream being at your disposal you're going to get bored …
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/13 10:00 AM
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privacy... in public. thats a contradiction. you step out of your home you have no more privacy. There is a huge difference between being in public and having your face and/or your business recorded; whether it is placed on the internet or not. If this wasn't an issue, if it was a contradiction there would be no laws around filming someone in a public restroom or otherwise spying on them. There would be no issue with filming someone and then placing them on a TV show, internet, etc without their…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/13 09:50 AM
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Not all the time. They also still have the footage themselves. They can't un-film me.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/13 02:44 AM
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Oh! LOL I thought you were commenting on something else. Ignore me.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:37 PM
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My comment or the synopsis?
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:32 PM
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Wait, so you don't like kitty play where one of them wears a butt pug tail and eats out of a bowl? LOL Yeah, that too. I mean, whatever floats your boat! But my main issue was that the D/s stuff could be so scripted. Like "Do you like it when Master spanks you." "Ooooh, yes Master!"
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:25 PM
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You're already planning on a divorce. You don't trust yourself, him, or the relationship. You don't have to maintain a career to be "safe" after a divorce. You have to decide which is the most important to you, plain and simple. Family or career? I'm not asking to have it all Yes, you are. I just want to know how everybody else does it. I personally opted out of a career. Not saying everyone must do this but family was #1 to me and we wanted me to stay home and home educated the little ones. Car…
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:22 PM
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I am way too introverted to be okay with this in any way. That said it depends on how I felt about the situation- I'd either ignore it all, feel real concern for the guy, or play along briefly. As a side note, candid-camera anything is ridiculous in my opinion. I don't think they are fun or cute or anything like that. I think they are an infringement on privacy. Any guy who would do something like this or support something like this is automatically not relationship material to me so I'm not rea…
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:16 PM
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But this just doesn't seem fair. Get over the idea of fairness. You're still expecting exact equality. That's a fantasy. As a modern woman, I am expected to be educated and maintain a career while still being spotlessly beautiful. As a traditional woman, I am expected to keep the house clean and please my husband while still being spotlessly beautiful. And? That doesn't mean you have to. I reject the modern woman part. Plenty of women rejected portions of each or the whole thing. You're basicall…
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:11 PM
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I like TiH well enough. I'm not 100% sold on it but I'm not 100% sold on anything. I wouldn't call myself TiH but similar, sure.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:03 PM
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its phony and heiratic like BDSM (to me, if youre in that scene i mean no offense, i just personally cringe at sex stuff that smacks of play acting). I feel the same way about a lot of BDSM. Not all, and we are quite kinky, but most is just acting. My husband and I wanted something real because we felt the dynamic was real not just something to get off to.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/13 02:02 PM
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I second this suggestion with one note of caution: FetLife is full of fat chicks. Like ridiculously full of them.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/13 09:14 PM
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I'm 28. Not exactly young but not exactly from an "earlier generation" either.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/13 04:55 AM
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Love the picture, Tempest!
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/13 04:05 PM
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I taught myself how to cook. I think I will make a post on this on GBG soon but for now I am going to post an Ask GBG for you!
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/13 04:12 PM
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This whole thing is beyond ridiculous. Do I care if a person sucks another person off? Two people? Fifteen people? No, not at all. Do I care if people engage in this in public? Yup. How about if the person doing the deed decides to feign innocence and it becomes yet another feminist witch-hunt about how best to castrate the male species over it? That's when I really start caring, personally. But back to it happening in public- I reserve the right to judge such disgusting behavior as much I would…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/13 02:04 AM
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I just made a giant wish list. I am in love with the citrus theme. Can't decide between the citrus and pink or the lemons and green.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/13 02:59 AM
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And PJs! I'm in heaven.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/13 02:37 AM
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Dishwashing gloves, you say!
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/13 02:32 AM
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Yup.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/13 12:53 AM
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I posted a similar recipe on GBG. We use 1/4 cup regular mustard, 1/2 honey, and a 1/4 cup olive oil with 1tsp of curry powder. It's a family favorite!
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/13 09:50 PM
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http://judgybitch.com/2013/08/21/drunk-sex-is-not-rape/
/r/TheRedPill21/08/13 05:11 PM
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It's not. Excessive cardio eats muscle and leaves you flabby but cardio in and of itself isn't bad. It's just the latest fad in the exercise world like hating on carbs.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/13 04:49 PM
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I know real examples of this happens in 3rd world countries Real examples happen right here in the US. Most aren't quite as dramatic but my husband and I, for example, are those kids that raised their parents, had to fend for themselves, and in my case raised my younger sister. Look at kids of the mentally ill and drug addicts and you'll find cases of kids that had to mature really fast.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/13 04:47 PM
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Absolutely, but I don't think in the same way men are. If we measure maturity based on how, why, and when men mature we aren't on the same level.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/13 04:45 PM
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Improve yourself and that will change.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/13 03:30 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss. And her's. Just awful.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 12:55 PM
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Met my husband in high school at 17, kid and marriage at 18, been married 10 years, have a ton of kids, happy as can be.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/13 12:40 PM
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You'll probably never really feel ready. If you are waiting for that you may be waiting a while.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/13 12:38 PM
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the notion that this is admirable in some way and that all f society has to change to make it not weird because women dont like the feeling of being disapproved of is bizarre. This is exactly my issue with it. So they come up with ways to make it admirable. My favorite excuse is the environment because the problem is over consumption not over population yet you don't see these same people rushing to consume less (in fact, they tend to consume more liking their things and their fun). Families wit…
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/13 12:35 PM
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You don't make someone see anything, just present them with the facts of the matter and then move on. Because, unfortunately, not very many people want to see this so they just won't.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/13 12:27 PM
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As for my not having any attractive qualities, my wife has repeatedly said that I'm an excellent father, a model husband, and I treat her like a princess (all her words, not mine). She has told myself and others how fortunate she is to have me as a husband (again, this is not my boasting or making excuses, but reporting facts as she has expressed them). (Woman here) This is your problem right here. What women deem as a model husband via what society has told them is one is not what we need at al…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 10:37 PM
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I know you didn't ask me but I think hormonal birth control is awful. The number it does on you can really alter you and, thus, strain your relationship. Not only that but the health risks including later fertility issues makes it even worse. I think the pill is really over-used in our current culture, honestly. Barrier methods seem to be the most benign currently.
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/13 10:28 PM
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And he had that struggle himself being raised by humans. Unfortunately throughout TNG you get the impression that Worf was in the wrong many times for standing by his convictions not just with how he was raising Alexander. When he asked Riker to kill him comes to mind.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 10:25 PM
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Tasha yar as the security officer? Give me a fucking break, talk about political correctness. At least she got killed off. And replaced with Worf. We have to at least give them that. As a side note I could be wrong here but I think Dr. Bashir from DS9s transition throughout the series is fairly noteworthy though not a complete Red Pill example.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:54 PM
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Of course they also have to point out how "damaged" he is. But they sort of make up for it in how completely ridiculous Britta is as the classic ignorant feminist/activist type.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:46 PM
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Can it be something showing Red Pill by showing Blue Pill in the negative? Because every time I watch Wilfred I think of how Red Pill it is in how it shows the painful reality of Blue Pill living. Elijah Wood's character is the epitome of it.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:42 PM
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Also while the entire show isn't red pill, I find Jeff from Community to be somewhat inspiring. The interesting thing about Jeff and the group dynamic is that everyone mocks him for being too "masculine-womanizer" while at the same time following his lead and hanging on his every word.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 09:38 PM
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No, it's real.
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/13 04:08 PM
1

I think what you call the unwoman should be known as the Water Bear
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 11:24 PM
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I want animal names!
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 11:17 PM
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but at the same time I worry that young guys new to red pill will latch onto bull alpha/sigma/whatever word they use for "lone wolf" and hide behind the label as a way to avoid confronting their social awkwardness. As far as I can tell a Bull Alpha can't be socially awkward to a debilitating degree. If he were he wouldn't be getting any, right? Maybe I am wrong but it says here: This is the traditional playboy, the over-sexed harem-developing dude who can commit to a hairstyle more easily than c…
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 10:50 PM
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My late paps had a saying "The cure to any sickness is to work harder" A friend that studied the Amish told me they have the same saying. I have been using it of late. I do think depression exists and I do think it does a number on someone. Though I don't disagree that the above advice still applies. Depression is often a sign that you have far too much time on your hands and have managed talk yourself into it. "Let me think of all the ways my life sucks..."
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:41 PM
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Sounds like bona fide depression. And if she makes any big decision now she will more than likely regret it once the fog clears. It really sounds like he is just trying to deal with an emotionally and mentally ill person which is far from easy.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/13 09:30 PM
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I'm willing to bet most of the guys that hang around RPW are Wolf.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 09:19 PM
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Thanks for thinking of us!
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 09:04 PM
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This is a great post. Read it, ladies!
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 09:03 PM
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Because we are obsessed with youth in our culture. Care-free, do what feels good, youth. No one wants to give their kid's responsibility because oppression. It's ridiculous. I started young with my kids because my mom is a total slob. Like hoarder slob. I had to teach myself to clean through books and the internet (I mean to make a post on GBG about this, in fact) and I still suck at it! I have the goal of being a clean-freak someday but it's this long uphill battle. I want my kids to not have t…
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 06:51 PM
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This is absolutely true. My kids start with chores at 4 and I still think I waited too long! I think most modern women are chafing at hours of child centered leisure company In my experience this has absolutely been the case. It's all on the woman because kids are kids. But, no, kids are in training to be adults. We need to handle it like that.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 06:37 PM
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“I look back on it as the beginning of the end of our marriage…Once she started to work, she started to place more value in herself, and because she put more value in herself, she put herself in front of a lot of things — family, and ultimately, her marriage.” This this this. It's not that women shouldn't value themselves it's placing more value to the point where she is above her husband and kids. This is the current trend. And society argues that we need to "love ourselves" and "care for ourse…
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 06:30 PM
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i dont know what planet "traditionalists" are on when they think women "traditionally" spent hours and hours and hours in the company of their children. The poor are always in the majority, the wealthy the few. So yes, traditionally speaking most women, the vast majority, were in this role. These days wealth means something entirely different so I'm not sure we can compare the two. Modern women generally fall somewhere in between. Yes, we are overall wealthier but we also overall have far more t…
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/13 06:20 PM
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Taking this to PM to prevent further derailment.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/13 11:27 PM
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Marriage is important to me, full stop. Luckily I'm married. Also luckily not all men are anti-marriage. I'm assuming that the ladies here are not looking to join a harem. Well, to be fair, this isn't a horrible deal for women. They just have to have a plan b readily available and not expect to be considered of high value by a certain type of man when they're done.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/13 11:22 PM
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Ultimately it's up to her to decide which philosophy she wants to follow (or if her philosophy is some bridge between the two). If we truly believe in ours, there should be no danger in her communicating with them. It's not about the philosophy it's about being able to keep RPW and TRP on Reddit. You need to understand that any "infringing" on their territory by us puts the subreddits in danger of getting the boot. TBP wants us gone. That's their agenda.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/13 11:13 PM
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Ah, I was lost there for a second.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/13 01:54 AM
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They didn't adopt.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/13 01:49 AM
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I wasn't meaning it was equally as binding on her.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/13 01:49 AM
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So you're upset because you aren't getting your way with a guy that has already chosen a different life than what you wanted but that you feel needs to choose your way of living? Why? You're not compatible. Just drop him and find someone who you relate with more. As for him blaming everything on the wife it could very well be that he is using her as an excuse and just doesn't want to hang out with you. Not all men like going out. My husband (who also married and had kids young) prefers that sort…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/13 08:18 PM
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Yes, that's it. I think that's a good plan.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 07:48 PM
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I don't take it lightly. I didn't mean to imply you were but speaking generally. I apologize for my confusing wording. Have you seen the "it's not the nail" video? Sounds like your wife. Sounds like me. Sounds like most women. I understand what she means about not being able to make a plan because she is too overwhelmed. Is it something you can help her with or do for her? Within reason, of course, you aren't her babysitter. She may need some strong guidance that way she doesn't feel as overwhel…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 07:00 PM
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On another site one of the comments is a woman getting defensive after someone pointed out Mrs. Fallon's age. She tried to prove him wrong by pointing out that she, too, is having fertility issues and is nearly 10 years younger than Mrs. Fallon. But that would put her at over 36, in which case age is still the issue here. Naturally the people pointing out the age issue are being deemed mean and overly judgmental of "other people's family choices". If we were allowed to have an honest discussion …
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 06:45 PM
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Of all the lies we are told today this has to be the most heartbreaking. Women, we are not fertile forever. Her fertility issues for 5 years? She was 41 when they first started trying. That's not "fertility issues" that's nature. We have got to stop fooling people into thinking it's reasonable to expect to have children at that age. Jimmy also said he hoped their story could offer inspiration to other couples facing difficulties conceiving. 'I know people have tried much longer (than we have), b…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 06:35 PM
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There is nothing in your argument that is gender-specific. Except that our very natures are different. In my relationship we play to our natural strengths. Let me guess what is next: you refuting that claim and insisting there are no inherent differences between genders, that it is all a social construct, and that women are just as capable of leading as men. My answers: there are, nope, and I don't deny this I just don't prefer it. Now back to TBP with you.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 06:24 PM
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i am not a traditionalist because there IS no "tradition", traditionally poor women have worked like dogs on farms from dawn til dusk or took piecework in the home, or did laundry or 100 other things to supplement family income, or aristocratic women have been indolent, odalisque wives spending their time socializing with other women and doing needlework, orother women of various classes have been courtesans, prostitutes, mistresses, servants or drudges. i find it interesting that nonmarried, se…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 06:08 PM
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When she acts out, becomes lazy, bratty and entitled, I withdraw. I'm curious as to how you go about withdrawing. Could you be a bit more detailed? How should I help her deal with her stresses at work, life changes, family? Should I? Yes, you should. Think of it this way- she is only going to be able to be a better wife if she is better, herself. Stress is a shifts physical, emotional, and mental health. It shouldn't be taken lightly. How you should help her with that depends on her. For me I fi…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 06:01 PM
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This makes sense to me. It'd be rather rude to ask someone out and then expect them to pay.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 05:56 PM
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I'm old fashioned so I don't like it. It speaks to female dominance, IMO, and I don't want a relationship like that. This subreddit hasn't impacted my opinion on this either way.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 05:13 PM
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This is what I get for not reading new poster's post histories. Lesson learned.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 04:28 PM
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Nice.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 04:25 PM
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I wouldn't say my husband was or is involved. He had read a post once before and bookmarked it to come back to. My husband doesn't really get involved in stuff like this. He reads things, finds them interesting or doesn't, and that's about it. I am far more involved he just likes what it has to say and that's that. Edited to add: he didin't even realize Red Pill was a thing beyond that blog's theme until I got more into it. I told him about the community.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 01:39 AM
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I found it via RedPillWifey's blog. This Reddit, that is. I found out about Red Pill via the Red Pill Room blog which I saw my husband reading one day after he Googled something like "masculinity". Or was it just a name for how you'd always felt? This is exactly it for me.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 01:31 AM
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maybe this is indicative of me simply being emotional Hey, we don't shame women for being women here. If I had a nickel for every time internet stuff got under my skin I'd be living in my dream house right now. If you need to step away by all means do so. I just wanted to make sure it was clear that if we wanted you gone, you'd be gone. I appreciate the way that you handled your questions. We could use more outsiders like you.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 01:29 AM
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If this is the best welcome I can get when I try my damnedest to not only acknowledge my own biases in the question and answering in good faith, then it is very unlikely that this community has a place for me But it's not the best you got. You got people that engaged with you most of the day friendly and openly first then a handful of negative comments.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 01:09 AM
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I don't think you understand how often we are trolled by people that come in asking the same sorts of question with the same benign tone. It's daily. And then they change their tune and treat us all like mindless idiots who pander to abusive prick husbands. It's highly offensive and it grates on our last nerve. This is why Dana is treating you the way she is. However, she's not a mod. If the mods thought you were a troll you wouldn't be here and I wouldn't have spent part of my day engaging in a…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/13 12:49 AM
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Sometimes, I wish more people could realize how much happiness can be gained by just making someone you care about smile without worrying so much if everything is reciprocal, and exactly 50/50. I love this, FW.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 10:56 PM
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ROFLMAO!
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 10:55 PM
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I'll PM you a post I recently made about this.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:51 PM
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But the way you made it sound was that you would refuse to relinquish control if you were in disagreement about something. Are you saying now that if you were in strong disagreement over something that you would be willing to relinquish control? My point is that one of you has to or you have to inevitably go your separate ways.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:48 PM
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I believe what it means to be "masculine" and "feminine" is very much socially constructed Masculinity and femininity are not social constructs. This argument is quickly losing water. However, what it means to be in the sense of dress and the like is a social representation of natural traits. But men and women are inherently different. The red pill community likes traditional gender roles because they work for a lot of people TRP subscribes to natural gender roles because they are natural. TRP i…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:45 PM
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You don't believe that you could allow him to lead in any way without completely losing your autonomy? You're completely unwilling to relinquish control for fear of that? I ask to make sure I am understanding you right.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:42 PM
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It is just an acknowledgement that we may end up at different solutions with the same information available Yes, but then would you trust his decision making as being in everyone's best interest? Because that's what it really comes down to. That is where trust comes into play. We both trust each other to be working towards the best for us at all times. That doesn't mean that we can both see 100% of the picture all of the time. In a case where we weighed the information and came up with different…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:29 PM
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I respect your choice in this but I'm going to push back a little on the idea of trust- If the possibility of it is great enough that it stops you from trusting him deeply enough to make good decisions without you being there "just in case" to correct him then you don't trust him nearly as much as you think you do. Let me put it this way- you always run the risk of dying in a car accident when you go out to get groceries. Does the possibility of that prevent you from going and getting groceries?…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:15 PM
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You really have to be honest with him, though. If you aren't you're going to be upset when what you want doesn't measure up to what you are getting. And it will be your own fault.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:05 PM
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You're right. Ish. Marriage is a bad deal for men because they put everything on the line where the laws of the land and societal acceptance is in favor of women. But if a man can nail down a good woman it can be a good deal for him. However, he still runs that big risk.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:03 PM
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A stronger commitment. Marriage is a binding legal contract. To think it's just the same as an LTR is laughable. You actually put something on the line with marriage- your ass.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:02 PM
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In fact, you probably know some couples who are in "red pill" relationships even though they don't even know what the red pill is. This is very true. Couples often times think they are the epitome of equal when they really aren't. Especially in the bedroom. If you like to be dominated in the bedroom that's your body trying to tell your mind something.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 08:00 PM
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I suppose that for me I couldn't be with someone that I couldn't trust to have the final say. There has never ever been a time where he pulled rank, so to speak, and got us into a lot of trouble. If I couldn't trust him to make informed and smart decisions for all of us I wouldn't be with him, it's as simple as that. I am free to disagree with him and bring that to his attention as well. In fact, he wants me to. This is another reason he has never had to pull rank. He'll even say "Push back" if …
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 07:54 PM
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I have my own intelligence So do I. What makes you think submitting means letting go of one's own intelligence? It just makes more sense to my point of view to have two extremely intelligent people working towards finding the best solution rather than one making the decisions for both. Which is exactly how my marriage works. Having one person in charge doesn't mean only they are allowed an opinion. Athol Kay refers to this dynamic as Captain and First Officer. It's spot on. My husband values my …
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 07:18 PM
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I wasn't willing to subsume myself to be only a reflection of him and his opinions, so I couldn't be a surrendered wife. I think the problem was you couldn't be a surrendered wife to him. I couldn't be one to an incompetent idiot, either. Smart women only surrender to men worth submitting to not to just any man. This is where the Alpha importance comes in. Men have to be worth submitting to. Red Pill men are invested in becoming those men and Red Pill women are invested in being the type of woma…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 07:10 PM
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I don't understand how #1 and #2 read as women not having self-respect to you. Could you please clarify? Feminism is... well, that's a whole long post of it's own. Feminism is not about equality, it's about female supremacy. A clear example of this: are men legally protected when it comes to opting out of having children? Is it as socially acceptable? Are men allowed to opt for abortions and adoptions if the woman doesn't want it? Can they escape child support without legal or social ramificatio…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 07:07 PM
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I am having trouble seeing how the red pill philosophy would get someone like me there. It's not for everyone. A person like you may not want to get there. That isn't a judgment, it just is what it is. In my view, healthy relationships include people who both want to please each other. The red pill philosophies read as the woman always being the person who should want to please and the man to be pleased from what I have been able to find. That is the part I don’t really understand. Try reading s…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 06:49 PM
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Ask him outright how he feels about marriage in general and how he feels about marrying you. Tell him in no uncertain terms that marriage is important and you don't want to waste time.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 06:28 PM
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I recently read a lot of red pill information because of an askwomen thread. Re-reading your post I have to ask which Red Pill philosophies you are talking about in particular. I am assuming you are talking about stuff you see over at /r/theredpill?
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 06:25 PM
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I understand. Could you have your name on it in some way? Maybe him giving you a title?
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 06:18 PM
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I don't understand #1. Why isn't it shared money? If the company is bringing in money why does it have to be your money vs his money?
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 06:10 PM
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I am having difficulty processing why any woman with self-respect would choose to live those philosophies. Ouch. So you think that wanting to improve oneself and have a fulfilling love life means lacking self-respect? I see it as the opposite. Because I have self-respect I want to be the person I most want to be and have a great relationship, too. Because I have self-respect I want to be happy and not make excuses when things aren't the way I want them to be in my life, instead I want to face wh…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 06:07 PM
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Well that's sort of what The Red Pill is. RPW is just an offshoot for women. I think it's a movement in that it's about women opting for things we are told we shouldn't and us supporting each other in that but it's not a movement in the sense that we are trying to shift everyone into the same ideas. I don't care what other people do but it'd be nice if other folks would quit bullying and slandering us.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 01:48 PM
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Excellent!
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 12:35 AM
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What happens if a woman happens to be a smart, highly educated (BSc) successful woman pulling a high salary and isn't sure or is certain she doesn't not want children? We have women that fall under part of this and even all of it here. If that happens, it happens. Some men also don't want children (a lot, actually) which is fine. The big thing is that both parties are in agreement. Children are a deal breaker in any union, it's important you're on the same page. I can't remember exactly where bu…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/13 12:28 AM
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The Serena Joy thing makes me laugh for two reasons 1) The Handmaid's Tale is one of my favorite books and Margaret Atwood one of my favorite authors and 2) It's total karma because once I called a few women Serena Joys and it stuck on them. Now it's happening to me. Though I still sort of stand by calling Ann Coulter a Serena Joy. I think it applies.
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 03:41 PM
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I agree that you run that risk but how many times have we heard that some woman amazing in the sack turned out to be a cold fish after marriage? Women bait and switch all the time.
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 03:11 PM
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But she snatched me when I was young, poor, scrawny, still studying, nerdy, clumsy and socially NOT dominant at all. This is when I snatched my guy and now he surpasses me in every way. There is something to be said for this. This may actually be deserving of a thread of it's own but when you marry young on both sides the man is marrying up 9 times out of 10. However, within a few years it switches on you. I don't necessarily think this is a bad or good thing but I can see where it could be eith…
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 02:51 PM
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"Cold fish" and "virgin" are not necessarily the same thing. That distinction is important if one wants to understand why some men would opt for a virgin and why some men want to. The past is the past and we could have a conversation going back forth and all around about it. The benefits of having a virgin now are related with the present. Virgins can be of benefit now because they have the potential to come without the sexual baggage many women do today. It's in vogue to blame religion for all …
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 02:44 PM
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I've been really wanting to read this book with all of the paleo-fantasizing going on these days and now I am moving it to the top of my list. Of course I am going to need to compare it with Sex at Dawn just out of curiosity. Funny enough it was Sex at Dawn that started to sell me on this way of thinking but that's a whole other conversation. What I find interesting about this is that I first read it in a marriage book a few years back that people were panning because it dared to say there was a…
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 02:34 PM
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but again in todays culture no man youd want to have is going to wait until you can divorce rape him to find out you suck in bed and theres no sexual chemistry. We've had men state here and over on TRP that they would not to mention the religious side of the Manosphere. So though this may be true in large part it's not completely true.
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 02:17 PM
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Do it. Or don't. It's up to you. There are men that value it heavily, men that don't care either way, and men that wouldn't go near you if you are chaste. It's about the type of man you want to attract and the person you are, plain and simple. "Try before you buy" is a load of crap as is the idea that it is a sign of repression. Many people have satisfying and carefree sex lives even if they wait for marriage and stick with the one partner. The problem is people these days treat any bump in the …
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/13 02:15 PM
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LOL Well, it's true! It's just so odd that people think wanting to be there for the person you love means losing yourself/free will/identity/etc. Just goes to show what a self-absorbed culture we live in.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/13 03:44 PM
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You're right on in this post. Have you read The Surrendered Wife? She basically talks about this. Who ever said anything about "sacrificing" ourselves as individual women?
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/13 03:08 PM
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If her family is fucked up she's going to be fucked up and if she has daddy issues she's not long-term material. Of this list these are the two things that I have against me. Big time. Of course I don't have to worry about this because I am married but as a woman that deals with these issues and came out on the better side of things (I like to think, at least) I still have to say this is good advice. Though I wouldn't dismiss her outright 9 times out of 10 there are going to be some real problem…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/13 05:03 AM
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I'm in a bit of a dilemma about this. Yes, internalising Red Pill truths and reading alpha blogs gives me access to information on how to become a more quality woman, but at the same time it's like I'm encroaching on territory that I'm not welcome in. Woman here. I get what you are saying and have thought about this myself. I think we have to take into account where we are engaging. TRP isn't just about PUA and MGTOW other sections of it are more open to female contributions for obvious reasons.…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/13 04:46 AM
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We talked about this briefly at RPW recently if you're interested- http://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/1jdjca/domestic_discipline/
/r/TheRedPill08/08/13 01:02 AM
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At takeninhand.com, there are articles and articles about couples in which the wife wanted this kind of relationship, the husband (understandably) balked, and eventually came around. This was our experience. I heard about TiH when I saw some feminists snarking it (I was a feminist at the time, or so I thought) and took it to my husband. From what I have seen among DDers 99% of the time it's the woman wanting it.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/13 12:58 AM
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If you get a chance watch Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/13 12:45 AM
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I'm not naturally submissive. I'm naturally an introvert but not submissive by any means. I've been told more than once that I am full of piss and vinegar. My family was so far from Red Pill it's laughable. I was raised in a pretty strict religion when it comes to gender roles but I had many people in said religion that challenged those roles/didn't live up to them. It wasn't until I was older that I realized the way things were suppose to be according to said religion wasn't how things were in …
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/13 12:21 AM
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Sorry, I just am too paranoid to share their names or anything similar. I didn't mean to be a tease!
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/13 12:16 AM
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My mom is crazy, too. And no father to speak of in part because of it. My grandmother wore the pants. So two bad examples. it frustrates me that people think parent = good. It was the 50s, though, so I'll let it slide.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 11:58 PM
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The Name Police. People get bullied about their kids' names. My kids have... different names. Not anything way out there like God Almighty or something just names that haven't been used in a while. We got so much crap for them. Still do. People tend to stick with what is popular.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 11:57 PM
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Meditation can be just as simple as sitting in silence and observing your breath. Try 3 minutes of just doing that. Up it to 5, 8, 10, etc. Just sit, you don't even have to close your eyes, and breath normally dismissing thoughts as they pop into your head. "I need to run to the..." just let it go. If they pop into your head that doesn't mean failure, focusing in on them is the problem. Mantras are helpful for people that can't seem to fall into meditation as it gives you something to do. With e…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 11:54 PM
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I second it. Yoga is awesome!
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 11:52 PM
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I don't hate this idea. Hmmm...
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 11:47 PM
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I repeat "Happiness is a choice I make" to myself all the time.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 09:36 PM
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Not going to lie, it takes a lot of practice. Meditation helps.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 09:36 PM
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but if a man does something you asked him to do, just because you told him to do it, doesn't that make him more beta rather than less? That's too literal. The short answer is no but it's contextual. Asking my husband to fix the clogged drain in the bathroom and him doing it doesn't make him Beta it's him performing a masculine task that I alerted him to, for example. It builds his masculinity and makes me swoon, added bonus. By issuing this sort of challenge it does a few things as far as I can …
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 06:30 PM
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A good one from Ian Ironwood today! When a Red Pill husband accidentally shifts into reverse, a Red Pill wife has a chance to give him a way back, if she is bold enough. You don't do that by bitching, nagging, whining, or pleading. You do that by issuing a challenge. Just like a woman in a relationship can impel a man toward the Red Pill and a more dominant presentation by Extending an Invitation, when a Red Pill dude really screws up, instead of letting him twist in the wind while he figures ou…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 04:51 PM
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I really think that that's what it comes down to.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 04:02 PM
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Yup. And how can something that nature intended be an epidemic? Is curly hair an epidemic? Craving meat? Bathroom usage? I can see the headline now: Bathroom Use At An All Time High!: doctors scramble to form a plan to combat the growing epidemic
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:55 PM
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Can I steal your obesity = shrew quote and tweet it? It's just too good. EDIT: let's all pretend I didn't just spell steal "still".
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:49 PM
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“Winston Smith finally loved Big Sister.” ROFL
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:48 PM
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The one that kills me is the "teen pregnancy epidemic". Yes, because teens only just now started having babies at their age in droves.
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:44 PM
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I have a ton of theories about human sexuality, none of which come to any concrete conclusions. I'd love to have a conversation with you about this someday. Reading your post now but you had me at "Obesity is the defining characteristic of the modern shrew"
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:43 PM
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Made this post over at GBG and thought I'd share here, as well. Nutshell: 1. "Yes, dear" with a smile 2. No more "no" 3. Stop mothering him 4. Live to please him 5. Praise him
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:40 PM
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Yes, you're right. But then that suggests that homosexual men prefer adolescent males. Though some do, of course, that's not what you see marketed to them in general and for good reason. The men you tend to see are very much men. I suppose that's where I disagree with this theory. I think it's more likely that these men were apathetic about what was sexy and just wanted something easy to hang their designs on. Women found it sexy probably for a few different reasons- it's masculine and we are at…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:33 PM
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I have a hard time believing that anorexia is an epidemic. A problem? Sure. Happening quite a bit? I'll agree to that. But an epidemic? I don't think so for two reasons 1) just look around you. How many people do you see that are thin vs. look like they are gorging themselves? and 2) the way we define anorexia these days is bordering on ridiculous. I knew a woman who swore to me that she was anorexic in her late teens because she tried to stay at 1,200 calories a day to lose weight. This isn't u…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:28 PM
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Not sure I buy this theory entirely though I see what it's getting at, but the underlying point that men don't generally prefer the stick-thin women that grace magazines and the like geared towards women is very true. It's what women prefer (myself included) but I'm not sure why entirely as it is obviously something we created not just that we are influenced by it presently. Articles on the subject: Figures reveal that given the choice, most men will plump for a curvy girl The mag found that whe…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/13 02:21 PM
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Honestly? I have always been embarrassed by my figure. Being literally curvy (not fat) makes you look fat, to me, no matter how thin you are. So even when I was 120 at 5'6 with a super small waist that my husband could hold between his hands and have his fingers almost touch I still had DD boobs with a big butt and hips and just never looked thin. I hate that. Like Jennifer Love Hewitt and Salma Hayek look much "meatier" than they actually are because of their curves. I think women that are very…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/13 06:57 PM
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Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/13 06:40 PM
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What was your goal in posting this? Why do you want to be on RPW? I feel like I shouldn't be pushed into a mold. I agree. You're not being, though, so why bring it up? Naturally submissive girls should be themselves, whereas people who are like me shouldn't be looked down upon for being different. Sure, but you're going to have to accept that people have preferences and are going to share them. People preferring submissive women is not a threat to your right not to be one. Forcing them to be acc…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/13 06:35 PM
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Ian Ironwood has a good blog post about this he wrote about a woman in her 40s- Girl Game: Why It's Not Hopeless. 30 isn't too late however if you want children and he wants children time is running out. Like what redpillschool said hit the gym (or workout at home), change the way you eat, care about your appearance, etc but also work on that depression of yours. None of this is going to happen if you are still down on yourselves and people with depression can't just shut it off. Be patient, thi…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/13 02:51 PM
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Only 8% of women have a true hourglass figure. Really?! I didn't know that. I feel special! And accomplished that I managed to pass it on. I'll be sure to bring it up to my daughters when they are being pains.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/13 04:10 PM
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Obviously the railing was sexist.
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/13 07:19 PM
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We broke up because of other compatibility issues, i.e. I moved far away and it was straining. My point still stands.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:13 PM
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I know these people personally. Closely. They aren't people I spoke to in passing. In fact a few of them were really ashamed of their virginity in a way. Unless you are asexual there isn't a single reason other than religion to not have sex Yes there absolutely are. One in particular is not wanting to run the risk of pregnancy outside of marriage. People like me, people that grew up in single parent homes and don't know who their father is, are especially sensitive to this. Birth control fails, …
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:12 PM
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People like to blame a lot of things on religion but I was raised religious, in a ridiculously strict religion, and ended up being highly sexual because of it, not in spite of it. Sex was sacred and "mystical" to me so I wanted to explore it on that level and explore it a lot. I know I am not alone with this. On the flip side secular culture can instill GGS just as easily. It seems either women whore it up or refrain in order to "make it". Feminism is both sex positive and sex negative. They hav…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 02:02 AM
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Also, read this book and blow her mind orally and she'll warm up to it and want more.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:52 AM
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Now this is interesting. Does she maybe have "good girl syndrome"? In my former religion which was very strict so many women had GGS and "going down" was what, as someone else said, whores do. She may be having trouble relaxing and viewing it as normal and essential to a healthy sexual relationship. She may have some mental blocks. Cultural or religious, this could still be the problem. In this case I would consider going the more playful "let's explore" route. Maybe even reading some female-cen…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:51 AM
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Off topic: I'm a Catholic convert. Still trying to get my barrings.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:48 AM
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Not necessarily. I know that a lot of people assume this but IME I have known a good number of non-religious women that stayed virginal. Not for purity's sake but for two different reasons- 1) they were holding out for Prince Charming or 2) they didn't want to threaten their education by letting a man get in the way. Oh, and 3) they were fat and awkward.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:47 AM
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Bad idea. Maybe if she wasn't his wife but she is. And he said he use to be pretty BP. I think she needs more time and consideration than that.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:45 AM
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I'm single now, but for me mutual respect and balancing out giving and receiving seems to work just fine for me. If it worked just fine for you you'd still be in a committed relationship. If this part of Red Pill is so off putting to you enough to take us to task over it why are you here? Because it is pretty central where "balancing out" and "mutual respect" aka equality is not.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:44 AM
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"women shouldn't be forced to do something they don't like". Classic "me" culture BS. If that is her general attitude her not giving you BJs isn't the problem. I forgot to ask, does she consider m-t-f oral required like most women do?
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:41 AM
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Cheating is not a deal breaker for me. I have a problem that these days it has become such a required deal breaker, actually. I find it ridiculous on many levels. But is it "okay"? No. If it was "okay" that'd be called an open relationship and Red Pill doesn't condone those within the framework.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:39 AM
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I apologize, RPDarcy, I'm just now seeing that you said this for some reason: On the other hand, there needs to be some way to discuss other things without being accused of shaming. That wasn't the problem I had at all. Don't bring things up that we do discuss that has nothing to do with what you want to discuss. You based this conversation on not talking about something we already discuss because we are "more" or "beyond" that. That makes for a condescending tone.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:35 AM
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Here we really haven't beyond that it's important to men. But because it's not as important to women and so against our current culture to place value on it in a relationship I'm sure it seems like we talk about it "too much".
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:27 AM
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I agree with you. If I wasn't being understanding I would have removed the post and banned the user.
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/13 01:24 AM
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But it's not all we talk about. As for not shaming us you did by saying we only talk about that and need to "broaden the discussion". It's very condescending. "Sure, that's important, but you all really should be talking about this, don't you think?" It didn't have to be said. The only reason to bring it up is to show us the error of our ways.
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 06:45 PM
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I don't think she has to have been abused to not view it as a part of sex. Our culture tells women it's not. It also tells women it's awful and should be reserved for "special occasions". Ever heard of Steak & BJ Day? It's a thing. March 14th. It's suppose to be the male answer to Valentine's Day. Do I think it's an expected and normal part of sex? Yes. I think oral for both is really important.
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 06:35 PM
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Yeah, spankings are more playful & sexual than punishment in my relationship. This really depends on how it's done. There is a huge difference between fun playful spanking and punishment spanking. DD also utilizes other things beyond spanking like corner time and writing lines.
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 06:19 PM
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the traditional roles got that way BECAUSe they reflected human reality, not the other way around. This. This is why I have started saying natural gender roles and putting "traditional" in quotations. They started calling it "traditional" to lessen it. "Traditional" is often synonymous with "backwards" and "archaic".
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 06:17 PM
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Personally, I think the terms dominance and submission should not be used among the red pill since it immediately invites suspicion that it is somehow connected to S&M. I disagree. I don't think we should shy away from using words that apply. The religious "traditionals" also use submission. No one movement owns the word. It also isn't really that horrible to be remotely connected to BDSM. It's one of the few groups that actually gets the usefulness of uneven power dynamics.
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 06:15 PM
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1) What is a "high value" man? Is it the same as being "alpha"? A high value man is a man that has his stuff together. That's really what it comes down to. He is fit, attractive, makes enough money (or a lot, even better), and doesn't take anyones garbage including your own because he has self-worth. The "alpha" thing is confusing. Not all HV men are Alphas (as most men aren't) but they have strong Alpha traits. My husband is far more Sigma than Alpha. 2) Does your partner have any "feminine" or…
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 06:12 PM
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The problem is that feminism in and of itself is about female supremacy. People like to argue all the time that it's just about equality but that has never been and continues to not be the case. The place where this is most obvious is in abortion and adoption laws and the feminist stance on them. Nutshell: women should be allowed to free themselves form their children by whatever means, men should not ever. it's important for women to have the opportunity to make choices (and accept the conseque…
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 05:59 PM
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If you want to talk about these things (and I do as well) why the need to passive aggressively shame us for talking about looks and attitude? This happens so often here and I feel it's really telling of how even Red Pill Women still fall prey to the feminist mindset. It's like we have to go out of our way to make sure people know we are more than our looks and being nice. "We really are, I promise!" We have got to stop being ashamed of that, we really do. Step 1 in doing that is carrying on conv…
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 05:54 PM
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I guess it is my primitive way of paraphrasing that "why can't we be friends" song... I have a blog post brewing about this, just trying to figure out how to word it. You sound a lot like I was for a while. "I'm totally a feminist!" but would challenge the central parts of modern feminism. If you are a feminist for equality's sake you don't need feminism for that. In fact, feminism isn't about equality or choice. Those things exist for both sexes without feminism they just have hijacked the dial…
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/13 01:49 PM
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www.takeninhand.com
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/13 10:33 PM
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I have seen this used to help people combat addictive behavior and for weight loss with much success. Also in one case to help a woman with emotional issues "snap back" to reality.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/13 10:33 PM
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But at the same time if their partner consented, I don't think it can really be abuse... No more than consensual sex can be called rape.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/13 10:27 PM
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I meant TRP in general. I honestly don't know where they are getting it besides that they assume that's what natural gender roles means. It's a common assumption to make.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/13 07:19 PM
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Folks, danab is not talking about people who are new to Reddit. I was new to Reddit. I joined for RPW. See Tempest's formula to see what she is referring to. Here's the thing- we get trolled a lot. We get trolled because they are trying to make us look bad. Go to the snark subs that are geared towards TRP, they fully admit to it. They do it to try and catch us in our own lies/bad behavior/whatever and then when we ban them for being passive-aggressive and kicking the hornet's nest we get "See! T…
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/13 07:05 PM
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The more active posters here have a similar set of circumstances. Only if you're not paying attention. Tempest, for example, is a career woman. So is Dana. Even those of us that arent', like me, are far from Ann Romneys. The misconception is born because people come here to cherry pick what they see. They think natural gender roles = 1950s June Cleavers and they take that assumption and run with it.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/13 06:56 PM
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This was exactly what stood out to me "he was sexist... because he treated me like an equal." It just reinforces to me that every female action role is a complete fantasy. In real life, men win every time. I ranted about this here The trolls were out in full force over it.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/13 06:52 PM
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Like what (so we know)?
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 03:57 AM
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I kind of blame Reddit. It sucks for reading back posts. I think we need an FAQ on the sidebar.
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 03:23 AM
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Why do they continuously suppress what comes naturally? Honestly, we all do in some way. It's always been a matter of pride for man to overcome nature. Really, we are all just picking and choosing where we tame the beast and where we let him reign. To me Red Pill is about taming the beast while still being informed by the beast. Feminism wants to deny the beast even exists. They have a desire to be their own master. Who can blame them that? I think we all want it on some level. I just think they…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 02:15 AM
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Darn, I guess I shouldn't have sent you those nudies asking if my butt looked big...
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 02:11 AM
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I feel like a broken record but I will say it again- RPW are career women. Not all of us but many. However the idea that something is only supportive of women in as far as it lets them "escape" the house or "sexual guidelines" is misleading. Basically you are saying "I'm ok with this as long as it adheres to my ideologies." Women who don't go down the career path are valuable free thinking women, too. The idea that the only things of value rest outside the home is Feminism 101. That mindset is n…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 02:11 AM
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You scared me for a second, Dana. I was like "Dana... a feminist...?! Is she like delusional or a master troll?"
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 02:08 AM
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i mean, shouldnt you be more open minded? No. I can be close minded about the way I live my life all I want. That doesn't mean I don't think "you" have the right to live yours it just means I don't feel the need to let your life govern mine in any way. Seriously, what is so hard to understand about that?
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/13 02:07 AM
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I love my husband's natural scent but I also like cologne. I find, though, that the cologne that makes me want to have sex is the kind that have a fond memory of. My husband use to wear this cologne at a point in our marriage when things were really good. He recently saw it in the store and sprayed some on. When I got in the car I ended up in his lap making out with him. Scent memory is a strong one. Bad cologne, though? You might as well have visibly rotted teeth and extreme acne.
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/13 05:24 PM
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Agreed.
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/13 05:21 PM
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Part 2 Part 3
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/13 10:38 AM
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I get depressed over my body and youth the most. I started having babies and married young and though I didn't get fat I got bad stretch marks. Then I got fat. :-/ How do I cope? By throwing myself into self-improvement. I even get excited about the changes I am making! I could get stuck in the "woe is me"s and I certainly have and still do from time to time but one thing Red Pill has taught me is that we do not have a lot of time at all. No time for moping! Have you read Athol Kay's Mindful Att…
/r/RedPillWomen27/07/13 02:50 AM
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If the road I tread leads to a life of loneliness, And it's going to, you need to be perfectly aware of and accepting of that. You seem really invested in making your life into this poetic tragedy. It's not. I understand he and the rest of the world will never understand or appreciate the unending sacrifice I voluntarily submit myself to every day by eschewing all forms of legitimacy and emotional consideration in exchange for my own neurotic love of him. I understand no one will understand that…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 11:36 PM
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I feel/felt upset with society but mainly with myself for wasting the pretty and wasting precious time and energy on a life I didn't want to lead but felt I had to. It was like "aha, I knew it!" in a lot of ways but that was followed by resentment. I knew it all along... and I didn't do anything about it? Great. But it also feels good to know that I found it while still in my 20s and can now put energy into aging gracefully and being a better wife while raising better children. I'd be way more u…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 11:27 PM
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In a way I agree with dana when she says it's a feminist invention to more or less shame selflessness though I don't think it doesn't exist. A doormat, to me, would be the woman that purposefully lays down to be walked all over and doesn't bother to hold her own. A woman that so completely needs to be under his feet she can hardly wipe her rear unless he tells her too. A puppet waiting for her strings to be pulled and loving just as much being thrown to the side until he is ready to play with he…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 10:01 PM
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This is only helpful if he isn't a "keep to himself" type of guy. Let him know that you're absolutely fine with him going out with friends, that he doesn't need your permission.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 07:34 PM
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one thing that was difficult for me was realizing that my husband needed a safe space to express his anger my husband says that everyones always telling men to "express their feelings" but that they dont mean it, they mean "express your female-like feelings the way a female would" , and i agree with him Absolutely. This is a really hard thing to accept but one that needs to be accepted especially if your man is feeling emasculated in other ways.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 07:33 PM
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I married at 18 and have been married for 10 years. Your husband sounds beaten down and depressed. Besides the obvious good diet, plenty of sleep, sunshine, etc be mindful that he is going through a lot. It's really hard living with a person like this and it's really hard being this person. Just keep trying to show that you love him and support him. Femininity attracts masculinity. Submission attracts dominance. The best way to help him become this person is to make space for him to become this …
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 07:29 PM
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Men are absolutely welcome to post here! Some have even asked us questions/for advice. Now I have faith that there are women who understand and are good natured at heart. Yes, but we're still going to brat. We're not perfect.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 07:23 PM
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Maybe a couple points we could discuss are, where do you draw the line between submissiveness and doormat-ism? Shameless self promotion
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 07:19 PM
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I don't think that's being a doormat, I think that's being upset you didn't get your way. The answer to this is not to push your will more it's to not expect him to do everything you want him to do, to accept that he's his own person. Otherwise you fall into resenting him. Not saying it wouldn't help to speak up and say something like "I was really looking forward to our date." letting him know you are let down because otherwise he may just not get that. It's important that you voice your emotio…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/13 07:18 PM
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If there weren't a significant number of submissive guys dominatrixes couldn't make a living. Significant number does not equate to majority. It makes perfect sense, it's supply and demand. Exactly. Which is how it's evident that the "traditional" dynamic still holds as the dynamic of choice for both men and women. There's no actual evidence humans are wired for one gender to be dominant. Only if we completely ignore the animal kingdom and our physical makeup. But I suspect we may be defining 'd…
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 09:32 PM
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If you read the comments of that thread it clarifies that it is not just about sexuality. As for porn, plenty of it involves dominant women too. There's porn for pretty much every niche. That's what rule 34 is for. Reread what I said, I already addressed this. Just because it exists does not negate that the main flavor is the opposite. Exceptions to the rule do not change the rule. There may be "plenty" but it is not even close to the majority. This is pretty much why professional dominatrixes e…
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 09:03 PM
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I don't understand your points because you are misunderstanding mine. You seem to be only focused on sexuality where both the post and my comments were focused on the whole. When you said half of men are submissive I thought you meant as a whole. If you mean sexually I would like to see numbers on this because within the BDSM community the vast majority is male dom/female sub. It's still the standard. Feminists have argued that this is all because of societal gender roles but I call BS. If you d…
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 07:12 PM
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Good one. Men are physical.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 04:43 PM
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it's still true that around half of men are submissive here in the real world. Naturally or from being beaten down?
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 04:43 PM
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So dominatrixes aren't real? Can you show me where I said they weren't? Point still remains that within BDSM male dom/female sub wins out with regards to numbers and outside of BDSM, for those "looking in", that dynamic sells (50 Shades and 90% of erotica for women).
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 02:51 AM
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So he had nothing really intelligent to say countering her points just shaming? Sounds about right.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/13 01:00 AM
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I guess I'm the only one that thinks this, but sometimes people are just into what they're into. Nope, I think it, too. But more often than not it's because of something.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 12:41 AM
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LOL No I am pretty sure he means overall, not just to pick up a guy. Speak more feminine. Change the way you speak.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 12:40 AM
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Across the board? No. That's mentioned in the comments, though. However, these days women try not to have a "girly" voice. I don't think it's outlandish to suggest the opposite is appealing.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 12:35 AM
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I think it's great in conjunction with it.
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/13 12:31 AM
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This is asked a ton around here, how do we manage Girl Game. This is a pretty nice list. What would you add?
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 09:17 PM
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redpillschool took care of it!
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 07:01 PM
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Is it a fear of being something society does not quite approve i.e. socially dominant man? I've wondered this. I'm sure that it's complicated like most things are but it does seem like a need for punishment. Note the female submissives in BDSM seem to range and not necessarily be into pain and punishment. It's dominance they want. Male submissives, on the other hand, gravitate more towards the pain, humiliation, and punishment end. It's really just a theory. There are, of course, outliers in eve…
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 06:50 PM
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BDSM isn't necessarily just about pain play. Not everyone does pain play. I was more talking about the D/s M/s aspects of it though pain can be involved in that it usually is as a form of punishment. "Master took the belt to me today" and that sort of thing.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 06:00 PM
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I agree. All the hysteria comes from women trying to cope with and make "okay" their shameful natural desires.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 05:41 PM
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I was just reading this and it got me thinking about BDSM again this morning. I'm near certain that for most people it serves as an outlet for their natural inclinations with regards to gender roles (male dominance female submission) It's seen as social acceptable for the most part, far more than embracing natural gender roles all on it's own, so people are gravitating more towards it. Point being the need, and I do need need, for this in a woman's life is made evident by all the ways we are try…
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 05:29 PM
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My focus right now is lace but I will head to color work soon.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 05:16 PM
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I basically taught myself how to knit using online tutorials. I was going to post about that.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 04:48 PM
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Looking at your stuff I feel so inadequate! I have yet to get up the courage to try color work/fair isle.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 04:47 PM
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But, if you have good resources or tips for complete beginners maybe I could give it a try anyways! I'm thinking about making a "learn to knit on the internet" post at GBG but if people are interested. Would you be?
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 04:28 PM
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It must be affecting my demeanor too, because people have started approaching me too. No doubt that it is. My husband, an INTP, has been working on being more sociable for the past few months and has noticed how differently people have been treating him. It's what got me thinking that it may be doable for me, as well.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 04:27 PM
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I stay home to have and raise babies and even I don't expect my husband to be my meal ticket forever. My goodness.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 03:34 PM
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I have a personal account on Ravelry that I have been meaning to delete because 99% of my friends there are in the former category. Are you twisting my arm to make a new account for MargeryM? Because I'll totally do that.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 03:33 PM
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Woooooow.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 03:26 PM
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Thanks for this! It seems so far off for me but I am hoping to do better. I've been worried that I have been getting worse since staying home with the kiddos.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 03:26 PM
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Self treating/medicating isn't all bad. I know it's frowned upon but I stand by it.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 03:24 PM
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I knit, cross stitch from time to time, and I want to take up sewing/quilting.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 03:24 PM
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You're right. I have encountered such women, too. I was more offering it as an option for the OP. But one to be eased into.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:56 PM
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Conversely some women find that kink helps them in the processing/healing process. No comment on how I know this.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:37 PM
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I understand "faking it until you make it" but no matter how much I do that it backfires on me. We'll go to a party and I will mingle and outwardly appear to have a good time but once I am in the car I am shaking and wanting to take a nap. Because of that I am really curious as to how one would go from an introvert to a real extrovert. I'm going to have to think on this more. I'd love to be rid of my social anxiety.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:36 PM
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Further fucking up a flawed system by feeding it for personal gain is NOT honorable, its not the way of The Good Man. This is your opinion and a tired shaming tactic. If RPers are so willing to shit on the mistakes of women for causing this mess, I'd ask for men to be accountable as well. They talk about male accountability quite often over there. White Knights, anyone? But the idea that playing the system is feeding the system is misguided. The men you are referring to are playing the system wh…
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:32 PM
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He decided he wants to be a follower and I'm not willing to be the leader in my relationship. To put a cherry on top, he called my thinking backwards. Yikes. Sounds like he wants to be taken care of in all the wrong ways.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:21 PM
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Welcome!
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:18 PM
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I'd really love to hear more about this process.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 02:15 PM
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More to the point why does there have to be?
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:50 AM
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1) I had to think about this but this rings true for me: i find i wake up every day perfectly happy as if someone has set a reset button. if something upsets me i get upset, but if the stimulus is taken away, i lapse back to perfect happiness almost immediately. My husband points out that when the kids are stressing me out (which is often) and he takes me on a date we're not even half way down the street before I completely revert to my normal self. I thought this was pretty standard for everyon…
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:36 AM
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I don' think INTJ males are natural alphas. They really aren't. But most men aren't naturally Alphas including most RP men.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:26 AM
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You reminded me of something. Recently I was having this pleasant conversation with a friend of a friend (mutual friend was in attendance). It was full of smiles and laughs and all of that. Then she mentions alcoholism being a disease. "It's not a disease" I say. She immediately becomes defensive and offended "I have known people that have suffered from it, don't tell me it's not a disease!" Me: "That doesn't make it a disease." She's upset, I'm totally not but I can see that I've done it again …
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:22 AM
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because i am EXTREMELY warm socially, with my customers and with the people i love, with strangers in the supermarket, but i can be knocked into robotic spock/sheldon mode any second I'm near 100% certain that it's simply because we adapt well to social situations. We aren't naturally social but we do naturally observe and adapt. I hate social situations but no one knows this based on how I act in them. My mother is completely emotionally driven, on the other hand. So she and I... well, we have …
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:14 AM
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But not like Joffrey or the Mad King Aerys, right? And hopefully not as inept as Robert.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:09 AM
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we are able to be SO detached and objective that we can do certain really important things without being inhibited by emotions or normal morality This has gotten me into so much trouble. Can't keep female friends, my mom can't stand how "cold" I am, etc. Oh well.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:05 AM
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I forgot you were a boy.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/13 12:04 AM
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Really interesting. If I was smarter and had the backing I'd conduct a study. For us the conclusion would be that Red Pillers are focused on logic. For feminists it'd be that we're all a bunch of heartless psychopaths.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 11:54 PM
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I'm happy with my INTP. YMMV.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 11:52 PM
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INTJs are rare but even more rare among women. Isn't it interesting that a lot of the women here are INTJs? What does that say about women who accept Red Pill? We aren't quite as emotion-based as "regular" women?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 11:49 PM
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Mine too.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 11:45 PM
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Also, the palatable feminine blogs I frequent tend to be written by your typical Quiverful Homeschool mom who thinks jeans-jumpers embroidered with Pooh Bear are the epitome of fashion. Ha! Same here.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 11:00 PM
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But for women?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 08:52 PM
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I'm worried about how bad off my skin is going to be because I cannot live without the sun. I love laying in the sun even when it's 120 out.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 08:02 PM
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I agree that it's natural and therefore not inherently bad but it's still a hassle and something we need to learn to control. Farting is also natural and therefore not bad. Do we do it in public or do we control ourselves?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 07:25 PM
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This is a really good question. My immediate answer is pretty simplistic. The feminine attracts the masculine so I would focus on being feminine and submissive. With that I wouldn't discount having an open conversation about it. Maybe say something like "I'm an old fashioned girl. Like 1950s gender roles old fashioned." and see if he gets it. In this day and age men aren't really allowed to be openly dominant. They are immediately shot down and shamed for it. Having a conversation about how the …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 07:22 PM
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I don't consider light teasing shit testing at all. It's light teasing. Shit testing is something women naturally do and need to be aware of. It's not endearing, it's a part of us men have to handle.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 07:14 PM
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You think it's crossing a line to suggest that the two of you are on intimate enough terms for him to have a pet name for you, basically.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 06:19 PM
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Yes, this. Not really talking about theory and discussing current events within a Red Pill framework. This is all living it.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 06:18 PM
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There is a difference between accepting the behavior (something being accepted) and accepting the reality of a situation.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 06:15 PM
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This is what /u/TempestTCup and I have been up to this past week. We wanted to create a safer community for us women as well as have a place to house resources. This isn't the end of RPW, just think of it as a fenced in playground.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 06:12 PM
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Yup, I'm an INTJ. My husband is INTP.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 06:08 PM
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Nor do I but they do exist.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 06:07 PM
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You and I could get into a lot of trouble together. I think our minds work the same way- all over the place.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:44 PM
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It depends. It's more of a question of whether or not it's worth it.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:43 PM
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I often times wonder if I use these terms myself because I grew up with people from the South.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:41 PM
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I don't mind it. But I am a woman that says "babe" "love" and "hun". I have been gotten after for it by women more times than I can count, honestly. Most don't care but some take special offense to it. Like shrill "how dare you!" offense. It helps me weed out people I can stand from people not worth my time. I guess I'm a sucker but I find it endearing. If a man uses it easily I just inwardly roll my eyes. If he only uses it after getting to know me I think it's sweet.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:39 PM
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But back to what I was originally trying to say now that we are talking ourselves over a cliff ;)- when I am talking about leadership, dominant men, etc I am talking about good character. I think too often we think we are only focusing on one or two things and not acknowledging that those one or two things are complex and layered. As far as I see it we talk about character all the time here.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:37 PM
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Still, when you notice that people are dying right and left because of that idea, stepping back and looking for a different way (judgement) seems wise. World leaders need to acknowledge that people are going to die right off the bat. Because of this simply noticing people are losing their lives is not a good enough indication that you need to change course. I understand that this is taboo but it's the truth. Our focus on sentimentality makes death the most horrific thing imaginable but it's unav…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:35 PM
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The problem with equality is that people are not equal. This is truth. Hard truth but truth. This is a key part of Red Pill.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:31 PM
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Aaaaaand I just realized that was a link not a question. That's what I get for clicking "comments" and not the title itself. /u/EmBright, when you post a link if you could make a comment on your thoughts on the link that would be really helpful in leading the discussion. So what are your thoughts about this? Is this something that you wrote (asking because it is signed Emeralds and you are Em)?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:29 PM
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Does he take other people's crap? Does he follow the crowd or walk on his own/lead it? How does he handle bad situations? Is he quick to blame others or does he jump to find solutions? Does he take the blame when the blame is his? Is he employed? (this doesn't mean he is dominant but if he is happily unemployed it indicates he is definitely not) Does he take pride in what he does?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:23 PM
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Charisma can go a long way. But don't mistake not subscribing to your values as having a bad character. If you are defining character by honor, integrity, etc that can exist in people I would deem bad people. Complicated, I know, but I know plenty of racists that have good character, as one example. It's not as easy as defining it as one thing or another. What I meant by people following (and in a dictatorship or any heavy-handed gov't model one has to ask if it's following through will or coerc…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:20 PM
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Do you think there is a happy medium between feminism and red pill philosophy? Absolutely not. But don't mistake a lack of feminism for a lack of female rights. Feminism is a whole other beast, equal rights exists without it. Is alpha male/beta female the only workable power dynamic in a couple? No. But it's the only one we bother with here. Does red pill not accept alternative philosophies for those who don't find they fit into the inevitable generalizations that come with discussing any philos…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:16 PM
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But there is a lot more to my definition of a good man than just confidence or even leadership. But... I value honor, integrity, courage, self discipline, manners (no, I don't care what fork he uses), and strong ethics. I consider these things to fall under confidence and leadership qualities. When I am talking about a good leader I am talking about honor, integrity, courage, etc. A dominant man has all of these things. A domineering man lacks them. There is a big difference between the two. A d…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 05:10 PM
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Women take a bit more to get in the mood. A "no" can turn into a "yes" after 30 seconds of foreplay. It's about getting us in the mood vs anything like force. I can understand how this would be triggering, though. I think you would be better off looking for an LTR and holding off on any sexual interaction until you get closer to that point. Someone in your situation needs to have a relationship established first where you have an understanding of each other.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 01:53 AM
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These issues can really creep up on you. You can go from being "just fine" to something triggering you and throwing you for a complete loop. It's also not uncommon to shift the issue onto something else. You think you're fine because it's not presenting in the exact area where the abuse affected you but you have a breakdown over the sink being full again. I'm sure you already know all of this but I just wanted to throw it out there. I really encourage you to talk to someone about this. It's real…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 01:39 AM
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but if he wasn't fond of my religious practices Let me stop you right there. If he wasn't fond of your religious practices enough to force you out of them you aren't compatible. Move on. The second occurrence I'm not so sure about. You were 9 with this, right? No, you can't be blamed. You were a child. You were taken advantage of. Period, end of discussion. Not all RP men value virginity. So if that's what you are worried about I wouldn't stress too much. Most RP men understand that they aren't …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/13 01:27 AM
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And why they say women stop maturing in their teens.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 11:32 PM
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I originally read this on Gawker and found that the YouTube video was deleted because it was "a violation of YouTube's policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or threaten". The Gawker comments (which I don't want to link to but you can Google) were full of "Well, isn't he a jerk" and "I don't think this really happened." It's interesting that she can text her friends and tattle but he can't post a video showing the truth. Ladies, even when we act like a 3 year old not getting their …
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 10:31 PM
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Wanting a man before having children goes without saying. At least to Red Pill women.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 08:51 PM
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Exactly. It felt that it was less of "let your husband be who he is" like The Surrendered Wife and more "here's how to better use your wiles to get what you want" in some parts.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 08:15 PM
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The author must have been be privileged to have good enough parents to consider this as a possibly good idea, however not everyone is so lucky. I came from a crappy family so I can see this. However, this can apply to us, right? Those of us that are trying to be that type of parent not necessarily us as children.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 06:38 PM
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I don't understand how you came to this conclusion. Can you explain?
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 06:33 PM
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They aren't overt just little things that struck me as getting what you want by using certain techniques to manipulate your man.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 06:32 PM
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I flipped through that once in my feminist days and had a good laugh. Couldn't stand Dr. Laura but haven't given her a shot since. I need to read it!
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 02:26 PM
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These two books are what got me started in Red Pill before I knew of Red Pill. The Surrendered Wife is better, IMO, but FW offers more of a "how to be a woman" type of advice which I needed. Though some of it I reject (like all women need to be housewives) some was helpful as femininity is so lost these days I had no idea where to begin.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 02:21 PM
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I've been in therapy for other issues and my therapist suggested trying to lead him to his own conclusions about what he needs to know when he brings up that his job sucks, etc.(ie, saying "Oh, what do you think we could do about that?" when he complains about his pay) This sounds a bit too much like mothering to me and he may feel the same. I know it's hard for him emotionally that I make more money than him, but if I didn't we wouldn't be able to pay our bills. There are other ways that you ca…
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 02:18 PM
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I would recommend The Surrendered Wife over FW or in conjunction with. MMSL Primer is good for maintaining not exit strategy, IMO.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 02:10 PM
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I think it's worth the read. It's far from perfect, the tone can be annoying (I attribute that to it being older), and there is plenty to skip over but I found it beneficial. It introduced me to things I had never thought of and wouldn't have come up with on my own. EDIT: I disagree with the whole "do this and your man will near worship you" mindset. She can come off as embracing manipulative behavior.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/13 02:00 PM
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But she doesn't realize that the reason she think submission is weak is that she has been taught to see men as the enemy. As nothing but a dangerous force that exploits, takes away, and harms unless it is tamed, controlled, and ruled. Exactly this.
/r/RedPillWomen21/07/13 02:14 PM
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What we are saying is that if a woman wants to be married, or is already married, she should take care of her health and appearance and take joy in serving her husband. Being fat, ugly, bitchy, bad-tempered, arrogant, self-centered, and unwilling to serve makes a woman poor wife material.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 08:09 PM
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Hmm... Well, whoever she was she's gone now.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/13 04:31 AM
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You may be surprised. We get a ton of them. If you read some of the anti Red Pill sites they have made a sport of this.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 04:23 AM
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I'm afraid I might have problems conceiving You won't know until you try or at least get tested. I should have added that I am more worried about history of multiple sclerosis in my family A legitimate fear. Talk to a doctor for information about the stats on this. I do not have the heart to tell him this. He has a right to know this. You're making a lot of excuses for why you don't want to have biological children. Does it just come down to you not wanting them? It's fine if it does but two thi…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/13 04:21 AM
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Did you hear about the case where a sperm donor was ordered to pay child support? http://www.forbes.com/sites/learnvest/2013/01/09/why-this-sperm-donor-is-being-ordered-to-pay-child-support/ I understand that this is a different case (same-sex partners, possibly in a different state) but just beware.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 04:16 AM
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I think your man just wants a baby with his own genes. This is exactly what I said and want to repeat it here. Op, your husband is trying to tell you something.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/13 04:05 AM
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Perhaps, but not out of bounds. Yet.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 04:03 AM
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I view gender roles as a sensible distribution of work. I love this. Traditional gender roles happened - well, because of history. This isn't true. It's modern day conventional wisdom but it doesn't have much logical backing. Many Red Pill bloggers refer to them as natural gender roles as opposed to traditional because they are traditional (as in historically what was done) because they are natural. It's taboo to say, I know, but men and women are different. This is neither good nor bad but it m…
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 04:01 AM
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It's not impossible to have children while in school. It comes down to figuring out your priorities and working around your top one.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 03:57 AM
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Really weird. I would say no. It also sounds to me like your husband wants biological children of his own. Perhaps that is the conversation you should be having?
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 03:55 AM
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I feel bad now.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 02:08 AM
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I think it means it was meant to keep women under control?
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:49 AM
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I didn't say that men needed to be shit test, nor did I say that it made women attractive. I simply said that it can bring up the Alpha traits in men when they have to stand up and push back. I was countering your assertion that it will knock them down. It doesn't and there is why. No, it requires an alpha to make you behave. Previous eras had more alphas to make you behave. I'll give you this, to an extent. Women were far more likely to behave then than now. Why do you think that is? I'll tell …
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:34 AM
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You don't need to be married to have children. You said cohabitation as well. I was lumping all LTR together. You can spend your 30 minutes a day or whatever time you have to spare with your infant, without having the mother at your house 24-7. Sure, but then you run the risk of you kid being subjected to other men. Keep the mother close = keep your kid(s) close = keep them yours. I'm, of course, not saying that you have to agree or have to want these things. I'm only throwing out there that thi…
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:31 AM
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This is really interesting. Is it just me or does it seem like it played out that way because the girls needed status, needed to be needed, and the boys didn't?
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:28 AM
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Oh I know. I already banned him (though he's threatening to just make another account and come back now so, yay). That's what I get for posting while bored.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:15 AM
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It is not in the interest of any man to commit either of these cardinal sins. It is if family and children are at the top of his priority list. Namely children.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:11 AM
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What I was saying was if it's good for you it's good for you and I'm not going to argue with that. But just because it's good for you doesn't mean it's what we want. And I don't believe most of you are women, this philosophy is just too sad for me to believe you're for real. So you don't want to believe so you refuse to believe? Totally logical. But it's ok, it's not like we haven't heard that one a million times before. If you're happy, keep on keeping on. Just not here.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:09 AM
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but it's impossible for them to not compulsively keep shit-testing him and shoving him back into his beta hole. Shit-testing can also strengthen him. It's an emotional and mental workout. I shrewed my husband into Beta land for years. At first the shit tests would knock him back and then he started to hold his ground and then he started to push back. I wasn't so happy about that one at the time. If women were capable of acting the way an alpha wants all by themselves Here's the thing- we are. Th…
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:06 AM
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Give it back to the chick you stole it from?
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:03 AM
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I could see you with a butterfly on your ankle ;)
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:02 AM
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Do you not know where you are? Most of us are women here. This is Red Pill Women. I don't even know what you are referring to with the hypocrisy thing.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 01:00 AM
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She was able to get the guy who is now her husband to marry her. Would you be willing to marry that guy? Would the guy you are with be willing to marry your obese sister? This is exactly what I have been trying to get through my friends' heads. I am worried to death about losing my husband for obvious reasons but also because I'd be screwed in the relationship department (or, more accurately, not screwed). They keep saying "Oh, you could find a man!" Yes, I could, but the type of man I would wan…
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:59 AM
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I'm a she. I married at 18. All that aside you're still not making a positive argument for yourself. So people change. I married at 18 and have been married for 10 years, I get that. That's no excuse to move on. If you're fine with serial monogamy good on you! I'm happy that you're happy. But if you think that because you are happy with your life everyone else needs to be happy with what you have you're mistaken. Just realize who you are talking to, is all. If you are trying to make this big poi…
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:54 AM
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Think about how bad marriage 2.0 is for men for a moment, then realize that men get married anyway. There is an element of "look what he was willing to give up for her". But, then the women who don't get married look incredibly low status by comparison. You know I never thought of it like this but I think you're right.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:50 AM
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Some men do know and are still willing. Case in point the Red Pill men that are looking to marry. Going for women that believe in more "traditional" gender roles is a better bet though not a perfectly safe one.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:49 AM
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Women can't improve men that they're with. Yes and no. By changing themselves they can bring out changes in them (this also works visa versa). That's really all a woman (or man) can hope for. But femininity brings out masculinity 9 times out of 10.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:46 AM
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Are you talking to me? Because I've been married for 10 years.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:41 AM
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has netted me several long term relationships with wonderful people lasting years/to months Uh, this isn't a positive. It says you can't maintain a relationship. It's like saying you're good at losing weight because you've lost the same 10 lbs over and over again.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:39 AM
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Women, if at all attractive, aren't un-dateable due to anything other than that they are refusing to date. The key word here being undateable. I think people are confusing dating material with LTR/marriage material. Dating a 30+ woman comes down to preference. Marrying one or entering into a LTR is another story mainly because of children.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:30 AM
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Depends on the guy and the tattoos but I do love a hot guy with quality ink!
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:20 AM
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I'm wondering where his testosterone levels are. It sounds like they could be low. Or, at very least, depression. Still, none of this matters if he is unwilling to help himself. I suggest laying this all on the table, explaining how things aren't working for you and why and let him know that you think something may be up with him that you'd like him to get checked out. Explain that you are working on you and, to make this relationship work, you need him to meet you at least halfway. If he refuse…
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/13 12:17 AM
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what would be the best way to correct misinformation? Should I have posted directly in the trp thread? Yes. And if you want to participate in a thread at least answer the question/address the topic first. Otherwise it suggests what you are taking issue with is your take on the topic (hence my confusion). I also took my issue with it to the thread in question.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 06:10 PM
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That isn't what I took away from the post I assumed it was because the OP's question was What do ya'll think of this post from TRP? People already criticize enough of the things we believe that are true, we don't need to give them more fodder If you are concerned about giving the trolls fodder you might want avoid pointing out every single point where you disagree with a RPer instead of staying on topic. They love that shit.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 05:52 PM
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And they would be talking about that labial stretch here. What strikes me as odd is that this is what you have taken away from the post. The bulk of it and the bulk of the thread hasn't been talking about looseness.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 05:45 PM
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This person was asking about bat wings, not looseness, right?
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 05:33 PM
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i dont understand this mentality, does she think we dont know thats what "red pill men" think? that we're going to go omg omg omg THAT'S what they think??? im a feminist now!! Yes. And if we agree with the menfolk we are not real women while simultaneously being self-hating women.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 04:37 PM
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I dont hate those weak men, they must be getting what they want on some level, or they would change. Not necessarily. When you tell someone they can't be X because X is wrong it doesn't matter how miserable they are being Y if they truly have internalized that message.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 04:01 PM
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As a western mom I can verify that this percentage is spot on. Plus: http://blog.discourse.org/2013/03/forums-as-seen-on-tv/
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 03:50 PM
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Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 03:20 PM
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Exactly. But apparently acknowledging that labias change is ignorant?
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 03:19 PM
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It's not entirely BS, though. Multiple partners can make a woman looser. When paired with not caring for themselves, that is.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 03:05 PM
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Reading this thread about labias and bat wings is interesting. I find it funny that it's so hard to believe that when women have a lot of sex (not necessarily with different partners) bat wings happen. Skin, it stretches, y'all! Of course, some women just have larger labia minoras, but they do stretch over time. Why is that so bad to acknowledge? Nature is so sexist.
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 02:41 PM
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Yes. And, as you said, he's not entirely full of shit. Is this thread being brigaded? Is it a thread about women on TRP? Then yes, probably.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 02:18 PM
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Her vag is now a prolapsed outtie. I think I am reading this wrong. Is it meant to be an expression or has she really suffered a prolapse? If it is the former what does it mean?
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 02:04 PM
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Actually he isn't entirely full of shit. Though the labia can and does stretch having a protruding one can be a matter of biology as well. Labias come in all shapes and sizes. Oh, and colors! I kind of want to insert a joke here about collecting them all but I'm not sure how to go about it...
/r/TheRedPill19/07/13 01:54 PM
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I'll give you that more partners doesn't necessarily mean looser vaginas. But age sure as hell does. Childbirth does to a certain extent but is also reparable in large part (barring some extreme damage). Age? Not so much. The only thing we can do is take care of ourselves now through diet and exercise as well as vaginal care. Part of vaginal care is restricting partners, though. Because though it may not mean hot dog in a hallway multiple partners do lead to things like BV (not bringing up STDs …
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 01:50 PM
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One of the first things that turned me on to TRP was that it admitted (finally!) that women over 30 hit the wall biologically. That is what the bulk of this post is about. What do I think about it? I think it's a painful truth for women that the feminist fantasy tells us to ignore but an inevitable truth that no manner of shouting down can reverse. It bothers me to no end that women in their 30s cry to their friends and family about their troubles conceiving. It bothers me because they have been…
/r/RedPillWomen19/07/13 01:46 PM
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Yeah, I am betting it was more of a "how can I guilt this guy into putting a ring on my finger?"
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 08:57 PM
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What I think is weird is that she didn't just propose to him. I mean, this is 2013 and she's a feminist, right? I don't actually disagree with trying to get someone to propose to you ("make" is a strong word). Honestly, that's what we do in one way or another with relationships and sex- we're trying to get someone to do something for us. How do you get a man to propose to you? You become a better woman, a woman worth marrying. EDIT: But yes I use to read stuff like xoJane and Jezebel and now it'…
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 08:45 PM
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Fetlife does have a nice format.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 08:14 PM
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Long story short I did everything I could to be the perfect girlfriend/wife. Sometimes people just aren't compatible. How long is long enough, after one relationship ends to begin another one? I'd say a few months. Is that silly? Yes. His emotions are his problem, not yours. Move on.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 06:46 PM
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I'm telling you right now that I won't do it. I have no problem with getting to know someone and then from there seeing if I trust them enough to divulge more personal info and maybe meet them publicly but I will not attach my face or name to this. People are way too hostile towards us for that, IMO.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 06:40 PM
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I wouldn't be opposed to a Red Pill networking site that was far away from the troll haven that this place seems to be.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 06:24 PM
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You need to get away from it, Tempest. You need to get away from it and live.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 05:44 PM
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Opression!
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 05:40 PM
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What'd I say? http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1i2tj9/how_does_one_get_a_red_pill_marriage/cb0fu8i
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 05:37 PM
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Yup. They wouldn't hear us out for one second, anyway. Just look how widely misrepresented we are here. They won't even believe we are real women.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 05:14 PM
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I'm not holding my breath with that one.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 03:39 PM
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Can't say I disagree with any of this. I think we're just defining selfish differently. I included thoughtless and dick in with it for a reason.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 02:48 PM
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She was seen sobbing on his shoulder yesterday after the news broke. They are saying that they just have a passionate relationship and citing bruises on her legs as indication he may be just as "passionate". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2367565/A-sobbing-Emma-Roberts-comforted-boyfriend-Evan-Peters-following-domestic-violence-arrest.html I'm fine with that. What I'm not fine with is that had the roles been reversed it would have been everywhere, she would have been the poor unfor…
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 01:50 PM
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Agreed, hC.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 01:46 PM
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What in the hell can I say to these women to make them stop? Nothing. Not the women at work, not the women (and men) of Reddit who treat us all the same way, not any of these people. We can't do anything bu put them in our rear view mirror. Ignore them as best you can and move on (easier said than done, of course). In the future don't talk to anyone about your personal life that you don't fully trust. This is hard but it's something I learned the hard way. Don't mention your marriage, that you'r…
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 01:35 PM
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I'm saying both of those things.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 03:56 AM
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It's been a long day so I'm a bit confused- what does this have to do with what I posted?
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 12:22 AM
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Marriage is a raw deal for men and a great one for women so obviously the subs have polar opposite strategies when it comes to sex, and there is nothing wrong with that. /u/WilliamShatnersEgo suggested a RP relationships sub-Reddit which could serve as a bridge.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 12:19 AM
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The thoughtless selfish dick can mask as Alpha, I really wonder how much of this is because of the misuse of Alpha. We get confused with what we see because we don't quite understand what men are like these days.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/13 12:01 AM
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We're working on something along these lines. It'd be much easier if we didn't spend all of the limited free time we have dealing with trolls trying their damnedest to misrepresent us and TRP.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 09:40 PM
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You're not alone. I think most people involved in TRP are working off of slightly different definitions of all of the above. Red Pill bloggers haven't reached a consensus, either. But it has been narrowed down, more or less.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 08:58 PM
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For another woman to say that it's okay to leave another woman because she cannot bare children is appalling. This is ridiculous. Children are a deal breaker in any relationship. If she can't have kids and he wants them= deal breaker. If he can't have kids and she wants them = deal breaker. If either party doesn't want kids and the other does = deal breaker. He could go on and marry her... and then realize he can't live with it and leave her later. Would that really be better? For the record ver…
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 08:52 PM
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RPW won't be what you want it to be in order to demonize the Red Pill. It's not going to happen because we aren't that. Ask yourself this- why do you need to make things up and correct our behavior for your perceived 'stepping out of line' within the RP framework if we really are what you think we are? Don't you think we know what Red Pill is, those of us that subscribe to it? Doesn't make sense, does it? Y'all have made up this image of us to hate on. It's not actual reality, though.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 08:38 PM
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Then end it and take full responsibility for ending it. You both will be better off for it. She can find a man, even a Red Pill-like man, that doesn't want children. They aren't in short supply. And you can find a woman that can have children, though I suggest not putting off too long or she will run into fertility issues.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 05:08 PM
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"LOL"? She thinks this because you are allowing her to think this. You need to tell her what is really going on, not pussyfoot around it. This isn't on her, it's on you.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:39 PM
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When my husband had the vasectomy, the urologist also hedged around the potential of birth control failure. So, it's not just a women's issue. This is true, though. Vasectomies and even tubal ligations are not 100% effective and can reverse themselves.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:26 PM
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I'm looking I to fertility treatments today This is a step! But why does she think it's an option? Have you not told her it isn't?
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:11 PM
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Yeah, I'm worried that it hasn't sunk in, that she's not really grasping what this means.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:09 PM
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You saw something that upset you, and instead of trying to understand the different possible interpretations of it, you went and found someone to complain to, as if there were some vast cosmic parent out there who could make unpleasant things just go away. Wow. I think I need to use this someday. Pretty much sums up feminism. "But but but... I want what he has. Waaaaahhh!"
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 02:43 PM
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I don't. I've experienced it. Though not with the Jonas Brothers, Justin Beiber, or Robert Patinson. When I see them my vagina usually hisses.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 02:39 PM
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Have you talked openly about it?
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 02:37 PM
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I'm assuming you mean violently because I rather enjoy laying hands on my partner. ;) I can agree to that as long as it's not self-defense. And that goes for either sex.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 01:48 PM
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What are your thoughts on this, meloniezer?
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 01:30 PM
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This is a crappy situation all around. If you want children and she can't have them there is no way around it. It's horrible but you're right not to take this any further. I've known people that have stuck it out out of guilt with people that don't want kids or can't have them and it never ends well. After a while they decide they can't not have kids. Children are a deal breaker. You and your partner have to be on the same page mentally and physically. But I agree about getting a second opinion.…
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 01:24 PM
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This is a first for me. I was flattered when they thought I was redpillschool, though.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:10 AM
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I'm your very first follower. What do I win?
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:09 AM
5

Wait, why is veggie_girl the only actual woman? Does all the kids I have expelled from my body not qualify me as a woman? I feel sad :(
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 03:06 AM
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I'm curious to see if there will be the same level of outrage over this that there is when a male celeb beats his woman.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 12:37 AM
2

Oh Lord, I really needed that laugh today. Thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/13 12:17 AM
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I do believe sex after consent is ok. How horrible is it that we actually have to say this now and that people feel it's an outlandish stance?
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 09:11 PM
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I personally don't doubt that there are people somewhere in happy heathly equity relationships, but they are minorities. Most partnerships run into the fact that two individuals coming together cannot split the relationship duties down the middle. So instead of forcing both parties into boxes for the sake of equity, I believe each partner should play to their strengths and instincts and create a balanced, though assymetrical relationship. I liked this a lot. The problem is that 1) people think y…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 08:26 PM
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Why must my value come from being feminine? I am better at acquiring knowledge, engaging in sports and I have great expectations for my future career. How are these mutually exclusive? Only feminism says they are, not TRP. My incentive to continue maturing is to be an independent and successful person. I never want to rely on anyone for my happiness and comfort although I would love to someday join up with another independent man to start a family. If you aren't interested in being in love (whic…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 08:23 PM
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I do so wish I was born a man tho.... I just said that you haven't rid yourself of the feminist fantasy and this has verified that for me.
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 08:18 PM
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I think my main issue at this moment is that my personal life goals for improving myself and helping others does not add value to myself for a RP man, only being feminine and a housewife does. I'm not sure I want a man who values those surface actions over more meaningful life experiences Can you blame them for not wanting a woman that won't put their relationship first? If I wanted a relationship I wouldn't look for someone who was uninterested in being in one. It's common sense. If it's not a …
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 08:16 PM
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Looking at the quotes, nearly every single one is taken out of context. Yep, this is how they do it. I have read some of the anti stuff and 95% of the time it's things taken out of context. Once I was reading about a Red Pill guy that did something they didn't like and they went on and on about how horrible Red Pill is without once bothering to point out that the response to this Red Pill guy from other Red Pillers was negative not in the affirmative. They have to twist truths and lie to make us…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 03:59 PM
2

I'm old - I can't buy shoes online Why ever not?
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 03:02 PM
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I was going to suggest Old Navy, too. I have an hour glass shape which is just a nice way of saying a huge ass (I'm talking when I am much thinner, too) and can hardly ever find jeans that fit me right. Old Navy seems to have jeans suitable for everyone, you just have to play around with them a bit. And then there are the shoes; all shoes at the mall are either day-glo or blinged out. I just want shoes; I don’t want my feet to look like a sparkly neon sign. I hear that! Have you tried http://www…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 02:47 PM
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I agree with the others. You're reading into things and not looking at the whole picture because you immediately became offended and defensive. Who can blame you? After women spend their entire lives being told they are special little snowflakes that can do anything the truth is a long drop. We're not special. Neither are men. The truth hurts and so we want to avoid it. While parts of TRP seems all too logical and intelligent, most seems to point to my worthlessness as a single, independent woma…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/13 02:36 PM
1

To address relationship specific issues within a Red Pill framework including child rearing?
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 06:33 PM
1

When I first read the title of this thread this book popped to mind.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 06:25 PM
1

I don't understand.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 06:19 PM
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Because I thought we could all use a laugh. This series is hilarious and sadly accurate. The theme song begins with A girl is a girl, because she is power. Power is power because it’s a girl. And there are a ton of gems Do you know what feminism is? Yeah, feminism is about men and women being equal. I actually minored in Women's Studies. No. Feminism is about women doing whatever they want. As long as it's fun! Feminism is about fun. It's just that we need advertising dollars if we are going to …
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 06:17 PM
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I'm just sorry you had to live with it to begin with. Glad to hear about your kids!
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 04:07 PM
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I'm recently divorced from a man who is diagnosed with both Narcissistic Personality Disorder and, more recently, Borderline Personality Disorder (sociopathy). Oh goodness! Sorry to hear that.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 03:45 PM
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I mean, I'm sure there are abusive relationships out there, but I think that they are probably pretty rare. I have been witness to actual bona fide spousal abuse, husband on wife (and he abused the kids). I get nauseous just thinking about it. It absolutely exists but is rare and isn't the same thing that so many women like to scream abuse about. Real abuse isn't mutual and it isn't something as benign as a guy hitting a wall in anger (I had someone insist to me that she needed to go into a shel…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 03:44 PM
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Off topic: we need a Red Pill parenting/for kids book/blog/resources. Not about getting laid, obviously, but how to help our kids get ahead in life.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 03:39 PM
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I hear you on not approaching things the best way. That's me to a T.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 03:37 PM
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Great discussion! I agree with it making us happier and better. That sums up what I would have said, though probably in three paragraphs. I also feel women need it not just to reject the feminist fantasy in our own lives and free ourselves from those shackles but to help free men from it as well. More women need to be willing to take the shame away from manhood and masculinity in their own interactions and relationships with men as well as not support social movements that further place the bulk…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 03:36 PM
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Nagging is not dropping something, a sort of "When are you going to do this? But when? Now? Well then, when?!" Mothering is when you assert something to be best. Think 'Mother Knows Best'. You aren't taking into account his situation or needs but instead deciding what is best for all involved.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 02:59 PM
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http://judgybitch.com/2013/06/19/was-nigella-abused-by-her-absurdly-rich-cantankerous-reclusive-eccentric-husband-guess-what-that-is-for-nigella-to-decide-and-everyone-else-can-shut-the-hell-up/ Things I am not saying with this -That abuse is ok -That beating your wife is the best course of action -That she or anyone else deserves it Things I am saying with this -I wonder how Nigella feels -There are people in this world that like and benefit from this type of relationship -We don't know the who…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 02:52 PM
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In the OP I asked for your take.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 02:41 PM
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I didn't want to do that since the couch is less comfortable What about his interrupted sleep now?
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 02:38 PM
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My husband is not always right simply by virtue of being a man True. In this particular case? Admit that you're at an impasse. Your husband is his own person, you can't expect him to change his routine for you. At this point it's not nagging it's mothering, which is worse. You are the one with the sleeping issues so you need to figure a solution on your end. It's not his fault that you have this, it's not yours either! But you're the one that is going to have to deal with it because it is your p…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 02:37 PM
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But why do you think we should?
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 02:19 PM
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Why the printing press, of course. Kidding. I think you may be confusing specific advancements with general advancement. What it is argued the nuclear family accomplished is much the same as what agriculture did for us- stability. Specifically a concentration of resources at our disposal. We were able to do more because we had more. We were also able to move away from communal needs to pursue things outside of that realm. I'm not actually saying I agree with the statement that the nuclear family…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 01:43 AM
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True but that doesn't mean that the nuclear family didn't help to advance us. That it came from something doesn't mean it didn't lead to anything else. Advancement takes place in stages, line upon line. The nuclear family itself was an advancement that led to more advancements.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 12:43 AM
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I agree 100% with this. People seem to expect them to be crazed over-achievers, who manage both their careers and families without breaking a sweat. Not only that but they expect women to drop the family part because it is painted as optimal for them. Though there are of course outliers I don't think that is actually the case.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 12:37 AM
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Actually extended families were the building blocks of most societies. This really depends on where you are looking and how far back you are going. If we are talking about modern society complete with modern advances then it is the nuclear family. Though in Nordic countries out of wedlock birth is in high numbers they still have nuclear families. The structure isn't what changed only having legal documentation of it has.
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/13 12:34 AM
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It's interesting to note the fact that the biggest rebuttal against the biological research is "it's old fashioned", as if the fact that something has been known for a long time makes it incorrect. This plays into the whole mindset that what is old is automatically backwards. It's why they call it "traditional gender roles" instead of "natural gender roles". 'Traditional' = old fashioned = wrong-headed. 'Natural' adds validity; people see it as "meant to be" or "how we are". If they entertain th…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/13 02:05 AM
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I feel like a baby on this sub sometimes lol. I'm 24. I only have a few years on you but I was expecting to be among the oldest here now I'm wondering how many people in their 20s are around. So what we tend to hear are the hoes complaining. The good women are a lot quieter and we don't hear them. The good women really have nothing to talk about. Which is a good thing.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/13 01:50 AM
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My mother was with over 30 men before I was born. She was 22. That was the mid 80s. In related news, I don't know who my father is. You can probably guess my opinion of high partner counts.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/13 01:45 AM
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This is exactly what I thought. Anyone who needs to hear this will probably dismiss it because, well, Fox News.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/13 12:04 PM
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A christian girl expects to get a promise of lifelong sexual fidelity without giving so much as the opportunity to experience what he's getting into. The flip side of this is giving them the opportunity to direct what he is getting into. This is part of the reason some RP men value virgins. If she has so little concern for your point of view now, why do you think marriage will change things? You are assuming that her POV is different than your own. In your case it would be but not all men think …
/r/RedPillWomen13/07/13 12:19 AM
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never ever have fertile human females been expected to remain virgins during their ENTIRE most attractive and sexy period Is it backwards that we are pushing women to waste their most vital period promising them they can extend it or that we are asking them to stay virgins during it? In my view it wouldn't hurt to stop with the scare-tactics around marrying young.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 11:09 PM
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What does the dating-phase sex life look like between man and woman who are both red pill, where the woman is a virgin who wants to wait until marriage? Short. From the man's side, I don't see too many TRP men who easily get sex with other girls, being exactly happy about this For a man who values this I see him being pretty darn happy about it. There are men that want this in a woman and they are ready and willing to wait. If it was something that would upset him I am imagining the relationship…
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 09:32 PM
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Or that we were naive, uneducated, women coerced into it by our domineering husbands. Women only have the brain power to think for themselves when they agree with feminist.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 03:52 PM
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Screwing around with macros is actually a good way to lose weight. This can be Low Carb High Fat or even Low Fat High Carb. The mood swings and what not you are referencing happen in the adjustment period for a day or two. Many people have success with rearranging their macro percentages. And just cutting calories doesn't always cut it for a person.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 04:51 AM
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Oh you!
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 04:48 AM
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I don't think the redpill is a coherent ideology It seems you are trying to pin Red Pill down into one thing and one thing only when it's really an umbrella. Think of it like this when you come across some men within Red Pill saying something differently from other men in Red Pill- Not all Christians are Catholic but all Catholics are Christian. You can define the base of Red Pill you just can't expect all of the separate Red Pill groups to be cohesive.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 04:47 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8JbTKR50rk
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 02:02 AM
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Yes, I don't mean to say squats are the devil just don't rely too heavily on them.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 01:27 AM
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You can lift more with kettlebells. Or at least I can. Because the center of gravity is different. I could lift a 15lb KB from the beginning when I struggled to lift an 8lb DB in an overhead press. Plus the exercises are way more fun. Kettlebell swings are my #1 favorite exercise and it is full body. Sometimes if I am feeling lazy I will just do a few hundred swings.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 01:23 AM
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Yup, and keeping things lifted without support hose. :)
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 12:41 AM
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I say it's both their fault. Personal responsibility for all!
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 12:37 AM
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I'm curious as to where this was. I'm not scared for the woman as it appears she was rescued by (oh my goodness, could it be!) a group of men but I'd still like to know the story behind it.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 12:36 AM
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That wasn't an adequate example, it's true, but my point still stands.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 12:34 AM
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Let me ask you this if it was some man doing something stupid and suffering the consequences of it (say lighting his farts and catching his pube on fire) would you accuse the person posting it of hating men for doing so? Not saying I disagree with you about the image in question here but the whole calling a woman out on her stupidity = hating women thing makes little sense.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 12:25 AM
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It's funny because a lot of men neglect their lower bodies. I agree about the small weights. I also have to throw out that kettlebells are awesome! Though I still use dumbbells for some things my kettlebell and I are best buds.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/13 12:17 AM
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I'm introverted, too, and I'm still pretty young. But I can see where others would suffer from having to be home and give up friends (though I am still not 100% clear on why one would have to give up friends they didn't want to).
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 11:36 PM
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Did you happen to read the post I linked to? It's a strength training blog complete with a video of a woman doing barbell glute bridges with weight pushing 200 lbs (EDIT: just rewatched the video. She actually goes over 200 lbs And the woman in the second video does over 350 lbs). (BTW that woman has a really great YouTube channel). The guy who is responding to the "my legs got huge because of squats" letter co-wrote a book and co-runs a site for women who lift. Squats will make your legs bulky.…
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 11:33 PM
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What kills me is that these people think living is the opposite of being a RPW. They really think that we need saving. That's how they justify bullying us.
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 11:03 PM
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You know and it's our own fault. We haven't made a definitive "this is what it is to be a RPW" statement. But we're trying to pull one together. Stay tuned.
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 10:54 PM
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Squats are pretty bad if you want to just build up your bum. It'll do that, sure, but it will also make your legs huge. This post has great recommendations for building the butt and not the legs (a NSFW pic included) http://bretcontreras.com/growing-glutes-without-growing-the-legs/
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 10:48 PM
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I can completely relate with this! It is hard staying home in this sense. That and the social stigma that comes with it puts you on an island.
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 10:40 PM
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Whoever told you that TRP was about putting women back in the home and was the same as throwback 1950 traditionalism didn't know what they were talking about. Everything you have vented about here has nothing to do with TRP. I would hazard a guess and say that most of the women here work outside of the home. And I know from speaking with some that they have friends that don't agree with TRP. My question for you is why are you secluding yourself? Because that's what the real issue is here. TRP do…
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 10:39 PM
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You forgot d) the BDSM community tends to be very "body positive" and therefore has a ton of huge women who don't take care of themselves demanding to be loved.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 04:10 PM
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Wife goggles.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 02:32 PM
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I do not envy you at all. Unfortunately, I don't have some master plan to help you out. The only thing I have to offer is don't dismiss women that are halfway there or even entertaining the thought. Not saying put a ring on their finger right there but just don't dismiss them outright. This idea is as reality shattering as it is to men for women just in different ways. I think a woman that is open to it can be coaxed, with your example and guidance, deeper down the rabbit hole, so to speak. I as…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 02:31 PM
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"I really feel like the discuss of women's needs goes undiscussed." What?!?!?!?! Can we even say that anymore in our society? That's ALL we talk about. I, as a woman, am even sick of hearing about it. I was sick of hearing about it before I took the Red Pill!
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 02:19 PM
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I was going to delete this after the first line but I'm glad I read on. I think the reason I cannot believe this is even a topic is because you are asking whether or not being knowledgeable of the proper social skills to exhibit in the proper social settings would be beneficial. I can barely even comprehend the petulant and entitled mind, so comfortable in their surety that any behavior they exhibit would be acceptable/ excused, that they can completely disregard the social "rules". Harsh words …
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 02:10 PM
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Moved my comment: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1i0ebv/38m_married_to_33f_seriously_considering_divorce/cb07eho
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 04:47 AM
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Oh boy, I have so been there with most of this! I can really feel you; the frustration, feeling so discouraged, being angry with yourself... I still have days like this, even. Don't give up. Be patient with yourself (don't mistake this for the feel-good "Love yourself as is!" self-serving egocentric line of today. Still push yourself, but be realistic). This is going to take time. As Tempest said your husband is the most important person in your life. Internalize this. This is going to be your b…
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/13 04:17 AM
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I read some threads on redpillwomen, about being an ideal wife and so forth, and I don't see hardly any of that in her. Do you think we were born RPW? Do you think we became this over night? In a week? In a month? It has taken time and work. Lots and lots of both. And I, for one, am still working. A lot of your wife's behavior sounds like some of my own in the past. I mean I use to be a staunch feminist that wouldn't even take my husband's last name. A lot of us RPW have been there. I know that …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 03:54 AM
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Then, tell her that your marriage needs some serious and intensive counseling. Give counseling a chance. I really agree with what you are saying here, with exception to this. Marriage counseling tends to be pretty anti-husband. I'm not saying the OP shouldn't give it a shot but I would suggest holding off on it, making some changes, testing the waters, and if there is still a need vetting the hell out of several therapists before proceeding.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 03:51 AM
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Very true. And many women make it out of anger. I know I have "Well, if he's not going to step up to the plate then screw it, I don't care! I'll show him!"
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 03:43 AM
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I absolutely agree with redpillschool here. You haven't given it nearly enough time. It takes work! I second (or third, or fourth, or tenth) the MMSL recommendation.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 03:42 AM
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Yes, vasectomies can fail. I have a tubal and am still at risk for pregnancy. I know 2 women who got pregnant after having a tubal personally.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 01:17 AM
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This isgenerally how it always plays out with my husband. He does the "'Tis but a scratch" song and dance and I'm practically (sometimes literally) in tears with worry so he goes to get it checked out or finally takes something for it or whatever.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 08:59 PM
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We're women. We're overly complicated. To us men are far more simple.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 08:58 PM
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This just goes to show that you need to know your husband. My husband needs to be alone to recharge. He's just that type of guy. It's not that I leave him alone that is important it's that I know what he needs and give it to him.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 08:57 PM
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Honestly, modern birth control really isn't as efficient as people like to tell themselves. This is NOT me saying these women aren't lying, this is NOT me making excuses, I'm just stating fact. It's important that people are aware of that fact, too.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 05:46 PM
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No way! That's really great news, actually.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 02:51 PM
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Oh, the innocent ignorance of youth. I still fall into this too much, though.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 02:23 PM
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I expect politeness and reason. I guess you consider them feminine qualities. No, what I am trying to say is that we have been told for decades that they are one in the same and that men should be expected to behave as women in conversation (among other places). So when men speak like men we hear "crass" and "rude" and even throw out "hateful". But really it comes down to I consider a lot of what you call 'plain' language to be disrespectful Right, which is how men generally speak. I don't let p…
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 03:15 AM
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I live in New Zealand, not the States This may explain a lot of the confusion here. The first example you gave is essentially apologetic NAWALTing. If that is what you expect in "appropriate" discourse you aren't going to like Red Pill. I have to point out here that you seem to expect these men to speak like women. So what I said above about the problem being that these guys are being guys seems to still hold true. The second is an extreme that I have seen but certainly not by the main players t…
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 02:50 AM
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I'm sure that this has already made the rounds but I wanted to post it anyway just in case. It is well worth the near 40 minutes of reading subtitles. Very thought provoking not just about gender but about how people are willing to overlook evidence to validate their biases.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 02:16 AM
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Yes, that's really what I meant by "be available to him". Screw him and feed him. My husband is the keeps-to-himself introvert type. If he needs something he will come to me. In the mean time I just up being perfect wifey, shut my mouth and "be available" ;)
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 02:06 AM
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I know, right?! Nature is so damn sexist. Makes me sick.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 02:06 AM
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But I'm always reading stuff on the Red Pill main page that is quite, quite hateful. How women are capable of any logic. How women are incapable of love. How all Western women are self-involved bitches. How the only way to deal with women is to be the swaggering, cock-swinging arsehole. How this, how that. And it's all applauded by other men. I don't read this as hateful, I read it as observations. Women aren't as logical as men. There is really no logical (ha!) argument against this. It's scien…
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 02:02 AM
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Men in general or Alpha men in particular. Not all of us are going to be with an Alpha male. Do you mean a man with high Alpha traits? In general I find men to be a lot easier to handle. Just don't get in their way. Don't pester them to know what's wrong and when they answer say "No, I mean what is really wrong." Men are pretty upfront unlike women because we have very complex emotions and even more complex ways of dealing with them. I just leave my husband be and make myself available to him. I…
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 01:52 AM
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Yes, absolutely, and surprisingly fast. I'm not doing anything right now as my body adjusts to Keto but my husband also uses the same (though heavier) and has had great results.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 01:49 AM
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You just love her, don't you! I'm not interested in powerlifting but I do work with a sandbag and kettlebells.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 01:37 AM
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The solution to the risk of pump-and-dump is not to be less pumpable, but to be less dumpable. Not necessarily. This poster is trying to avoid PUAs in particular. And how do we do that? By withholding. If the guy is really just interested in the one thing he won't be around long. We end up not being dumpable by not putting out for every guy, too.
/r/RedPillWomen10/07/13 12:59 AM
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Well, to be fair gastric bypass and similar surgeries as well as doctor led HCG treatments are under 1200 calories a day. Dr. Joel Fuhrman's Eat to Live goes pretty darn low calorie wise, too. When it comes to being overweight the idea of 'healthy' is a tricky one. This whole 'healthfully lose weight by eating more' isn't telling the whole truth. You can be healthy on a drastically low calorie plan simply because you are eating healthier foods and losing the weight. I think the real question is …
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 10:58 PM
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LOL good point.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 10:40 PM
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Oh, I see! I'd say it's still too far. You're attracting men like that because they think they even have a chance. Don't let it get to that.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 08:53 PM
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Not what I was talking about. Did you read the actual text of my post or just the title? Everyone else understood what I meant and responded accordingly. You were the only one that got caught up in how /r/redpillwomen should be just like /r/theredpill for the sake of truth.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 07:26 PM
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What? Isn't this subreddit for the discussion of truth? That's not what I am saying at all. I am saying that whether or not etiquette is useful in discussions of "the truth" is irrelevant to the question of whether or not etiquette is beneficial to RPW in their lives. I am the OP. I think I know what I was talking about :)
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 07:20 PM
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Etiquette is mostly not necessary for our professional secular lives Untrue. Companies train their employees in proper etiquette often. This is even a career choice- etiquette training. Etiquette is most likely necessary for our romantic lives. Which is what I was asking to begin with, not about how focused on career women should be. Etiquette is not necessary for discussion of truth Completely irrelevant.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 07:16 PM
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VG, you only think you are being logical. Your posts have been a labyrinth of logic fail. Love, you're hamstering.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 07:03 PM
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So we agree then and this is all just a misunderstanding. From one of your posts on this thread That is why I don't believe etiquette is necessary here. We have to get over ourselves and our dainty pink feelings if we want to have the same success as men Your entire posts have been arguing how women must be like men and that we need to be competing with men ("if we want to have the same success as men") even if in the workforce. Relationships have been a side note for you. You've even engaged in…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 07:02 PM
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I cannot answer a question yes/no when it has contradictory context. That would mean my yes/no could be interpreted either way. That is what we call a loaded question. I wasn't asking for a yes or no, as you know I'm sure. You didn't give me a direct answer and you continue to try and find excuses for that failing. This is saying quite a lot about you.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 06:46 PM
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Huh? So you're saying this isn't the female version of /r/theredpill (which is all about truth for men) - but then you're telling me that truth is different for me and women, so that would imply that this subreddit is about truth for women. Which is it? Is this subreddit about truth for women or not? If not, which one is? You're confusing yourself. TRP covers an uncomfortable and socially taboo truth. A huge part of that truth is that what is true for men is not for women and visa versa. Because…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 06:36 PM
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I was. And you came out in defense of your strategies which doesn't make me think you aren't her. It also doesn't make me think you are here for RPW as much as you are here for what you think to be the female version of /r/theredpill. That's not what this sub is and it not being that does not mean we aren't interested in truth it means that we are trying to live it. That's different for men and women, do you accept that?
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 06:10 PM
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Then why the defensive paragraph instead of a 'yes' or 'no'?
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 06:05 PM
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So you are ladyuniscorn?
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 06:00 PM
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If you want to start a movement to bring back marriage and monogamy, then by all means - etiquette is probably necessary in that case. You're not interested in a LTR or marriage? Just for clarity's sake because that's really what RPW is about so I was going off of that assumption. I am married and I am monogamous as are a lot of women here (or they desire it) so I'm not sure what your point is. It may not be as common as it was before but it's not dead, either. It's still relevant today. I have …
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 05:33 PM
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I wasn't driving in those accidents. They happened when I was a kid. My issue is with being in a car where I am not the driver for that reason, unfortunately. I'm a way better driver if I'm not distracted all the fucking time. Very good point and one he has made to me. Unfortunately, fear isn't logical.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 05:23 PM
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I'll add that although seeing someone's face is nice making the point to sit down and actually write something out for them on a specifically selected card and mail it off says "You're special to me" because it's so out of the way of normal everyday life these days.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 05:18 PM
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As I said in another thread I do this naturally. I can't handle eating in the morning for whatever reason. I generally only eat 2 large meals a day, maybe only one, and sometimes snack.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 05:15 PM
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A rule of etiquette may reflect an underlying ethical code, or it may reflect a person's fashion or status. May reflect not is ipso facto. Saying that etiquette and truth aren't combined or are even at odds makes about as much sense as saying oral technique isn't important because it's not related to truth. Truth and a lot of things have nothing to do with each other. I'm not asking if etiquette is integral to The Rep Pill as a philosophy I am asking if it's of value to a RPW in her life. You'll…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 05:11 PM
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The slut route has the potential to make your emotional and mental state 100x worse. You may be able to find a relationship you just have to be willing to work on yourself extra hard. Sucks, right?
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 04:28 PM
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It's who you are, an important part of you. Sharing details may be too much at first but sharing about your illness is a must. Men need to know what they are getting into. If they find out later (and they will, whether or not you tell them) the fact that you said nothing will say something about you to them. A lot of men are going to reject you because of your illness. That's a really painful truth, I know, but a truth nonetheless. Let them know so you don't waste your time on them and their's o…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 04:12 PM
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I see what you are saying. It's not quite as easy to examine much of anything when you can't trust your brain, right? Do you have a good friend or two that you trust that you can throw ideas and issues up against to get unbiased feedback? You also need to be upfront with your illness when approaching a man of any sort. Which you probably already know but I thought I would throw out there.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:59 PM
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I'm going to have to use this!
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:38 PM
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Veganism is tricky but there are vegan body builders and athletes. For the type of veganism you are talking about which is really great for a detox type of thing check out Kris Carr.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:36 PM
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I immediately found him attractive and we hooked up at this party. 'Hooked up' as in had sex with at the party? I feel that he is that one type of red-piller, the one who does not take women seriously, stringing multiple women along in these pseudo-relationships that will not go anywhere. At the end of the day, I will be nothing more than a notch. What you are seeing is a RPer who is not interested in a LTR, not necessarily one that doesn't take women seriously and is just, on some level, out to…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:32 PM
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Some of the men in the Red Pill reddit are, quite frankly, highly misogynistic and believe that if blue pill men put women on a pedestal, the only way to be Red Pill is to put women under their heel, so nothing we say or do can be right. We do nothing but manipulate and destory men, we can't think logically, blah blah blah. Welcome to Red Pill. I don't think not wanting to settle down and not being willing to overlook women's inherent flaws is automatically misogynistic. That word is quite overu…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:32 PM
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I'm sorry, but 'beta' doesn't mean 'bad'. But "complete beta", as he said, is.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:29 PM
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Currently I am doing Keto to help jump start my weight loss. It's working well in that department already but I'm one of those people that hates a lot meat and loves carbs. A few years back in my early 20s I went vegan and felt fantastic. I dropped some weight (even though I technically didn't need to) and overall just felt great. But I found I couldn't sustain such a strict diet and these days I just don't have the patience for it. Is there anything we should avoid doing? There are going to be …
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:26 PM
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Both. The thing is that generally I am speaking with much older people who find it awkward. Technology is a huge barrier still for a lot of people.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:17 PM
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I think it has potential to work but may need to be adapted. Currently only heterosexuals are taking it on, though, which doesn't necessarily mean it won't work but just means that they are coming at it from their own angle.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:16 PM
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Etiquette is nice, but I think that most important thing is basic politeness when in a formal setting or out in public. This falls under proper etiquette. I think people generally think of which fork to use and how to properly seal a letter when they think of etiquette but it's actually quite broad. The latest edition of Emily Post's Etiquette goes into things like how to behave at a funeral, when and when not to use your cell phone in public, how to handle a job interview, table manners, etc. T…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:14 PM
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I have a pet peeve of women texting constantly at events. Does this count? It does to me.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:09 PM
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I do think some of the very traditional etiquette is outdated though, for example we can call or Skype someone instead of writing a thank you card This has nothing to do with etiquette to me (and I think the updated Emily Post may take this on) but I just prefer a handwritten note or a phone call. It's far more personal, IMO. I wouldn't call an email or Skype bad etiquette but I would say it's impersonal.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:07 PM
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There are degrees of "don't want". I never really don't want sex enough for it to be this huge emotional struggle for me not to want it. The times I say no are generally because the kids ran me ragged all day and I'm just not up to anything but crashing. Generally speaking when I am not in the mood after a bit of foreplay I am.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:06 PM
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Why do you believe etiquette to be a moral issue? What does truth and etiquette have to do with each other to make one unnecessary because of the other?
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:04 PM
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I have BPD-like symptoms How so? (I was raised with the notion that being girly was the worst thing ever). I want someone to take control but I can't let go of my pride I can relate. I was very much like this, too. It has been a long journey and I'm not near the end of it but I started by allowing myself to have fun with being feminine. I started looking at other women and what they were wearing, their makeup, etc and where I would covet what they had before and then feel bad about it I instead …
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 03:32 AM
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Oh no, do I even want to look? Age-wise I haven't hit the wall yet but the amount of kids I have had coupled with the weight I am in the process of losing means I really ran head-first into the wall years ago. I'm just happy that my husband had me at 17 (no freaking out, trolls, he was 17, too). Wife goggles.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 02:29 AM
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I wonder if there is a similar one for women I was actually just thinking about this. I know around the internet there are posts about female Alpha and Beta traits. Now I just have to remember where I read them.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/13 12:38 AM
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I think Alpha/Beta works when we're talking about traits, but when we're trying to categorize people themselves we need more options.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 11:59 PM
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It may be but I think that this could be where some confusion is coming from- we're trying to stuff a lot into just two things.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 11:44 PM
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This is probably the worse thing for me. I am such a control freak that not saying anything, not directing everyone around me, is painful for me. I am actually the worse at being a literal backseat driver. I was in a few bad accidents and am very skittish when driving so my poor husband has had to endure "There's a stop sign!" "You're going too fast!" "You're going too slow!" "That car wants to pass!" for years. I am doing much better but the minute I feel stressed is when I start up the nagging…
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 11:42 PM
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My understanding/theory is that true Alpha males are a rarity. It'd really make no sense for nature to deal out 100/100 Alphas. My guess is for every 100 men you get a handful of actual bona fide Alphas, tops. But that is not to say that the rest of the men are straight out Betas. I think Betas like that are just as rare if not rarer but that our present day societal model has upped their occurrence through nurture, not nature. Most men are a mixture of the two and in varying degrees. Of course …
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 11:18 PM
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Because we have the potential to evolve out of something we shouldn't strive for it? We have the potential to not orgasm in the far future, would you like to forgo that?
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 05:11 PM
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Their wives left them because they could. They had their money and felt they could do better, find a man that believed them to be their "one and only".
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 02:49 AM
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That's not the same as saying she won't try anything new, though. That's just saying she holds a man's opinion of what he is thinking and feeling over yours, a woman.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 02:03 AM
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I'm a little bit confused, FW. You say you aren't assuming that you know what men want but you said at first, and this is what I have been commenting on, You haven't heard men "saying" it because of a couple of reason. First off if their sexual needs aren't being satisfied, they can't concern themselves with anything else. The second is because men can't ask for what they want in the very same way women can't ask for what they want. And then gave an analogy that more or less said "women know wha…
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 01:58 AM
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This isn't about not experimenting or not trying anything new it's about not assuming you know what men want in general.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 01:43 AM
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All I am saying is that there is a big difference between knowing what men want and thinking you know what men want. Women notoriously project and conflate. The conventional ideas of "what men really want" has so missed the mark these days in large part because women have thought they knew what men want. Obviously women in LTR get to know their men and what they want based on more than just asking but I think you aren't giving much credit to observations. This is how we learn. What I object to i…
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:58 AM
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If you build it I will... comment.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:47 AM
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Thanks! Right back atcha!
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:46 AM
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Should I go off on a rant now about how coddling everyone has turned into a society that can't handle criticism to an extreme degree and what a disservice that is to all of us?
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:31 AM
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Because you are pushing the "men are like onions" thing which invites women to explore them, to reach into the deepest recesses of their minds and souls to find out who they really are. It's like the plot of a romance novel. It's very much like women to invent deep complexity in men that needs for a good female hand to unravel it all. But its a female invention.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:29 AM
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Happily married 10 years with the last couple that I began following this lifestyle being absolute bliss.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:23 AM
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But better fisherman go outside the box to figure out if there's more to fish than meets the eye. This is probably the most female-centric thing I have seen said here. And I don't mean that in a good way.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:19 AM
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The hardest part is not breaking under the pressure and giving up. Without such a high amount negative feedback I highly doubt I would have changed at all I cannot emphasize this enough! Absolute truth right there.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:17 AM
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hashtag foreveralone
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:15 AM
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The truth cuts deeper, I find. My automatic defense/offense to something is useful in that it usually is the best indicator of when something is especially true in my life and something I need to hear (aka hits too close to home).
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:10 AM
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You think you know what men want because you managed to catch a good one? And you think that other women like you can give better advice on what men want than men themselves? I think I am understanding you but if not please correct me. Women don't know what they want for themselves. Women project on men when it comes to what men want (often times seeing what they want to see). This is a Red Pill truth about women. Women have what men want. That's not the same as knowing what men want. You got yo…
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/13 12:00 AM
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I'm confused; you don't trust men to tell the truth about what they want? Not even the Red Pill guys that have spoken up here? If want to learn how to catch a fish you don't ask a fish, you ask a fisherman This is a really flawed approach, at least these days, because the "fisherman" aka women are failing miserably at pleasing their men. And visa versa. If society is pressuring men to not be open about what they want what makes you think society hasn't given women the wrong message about what me…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 11:39 PM
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Men need femininity. What did what Dana put forward not have to do with femininity?
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 11:34 PM
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I think it may be harder for women (or, more accurately, hard in a different way) because it's a dismantling of "you're an extra special princess deserving of all men laying down their lives and their money just the way you are!" We come really entitled these days and Red Pill really knocks us down a few pegs. That takes work, IMO. But I tend to over-think things so take my wordy reply with a grain of salt.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 11:33 PM
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Great post, that. It is the death of girl game, not the death of sex-restrictive social rules, that have given rise to the slut. Couldn't it be argued that these aren't mutually exclusive? That the death of girl game came about when sex-restrictive social rules were done away with leaving women to view girl game as nothing more than myth perpetuated by a select few to keep them in line? Did sex-restrictive social rules not just essentially tell women what it was to have game and hold them to tha…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 11:30 PM
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You have an optimistic view of the future. I personally think society will implode before we reach anything like that.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 11:11 PM
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Really, people who are interested in "red pill" ideas run the gamut from seddit/PUA types who just want to get laid by lots of different women, to religious fundamentalists who want a return to the theocratic societies of the past, to extreme skeptics like myself who want to deal with the realities of the sexual marketplace unhindered by dogma, to women who just want to be feminine without being shamed for it (and not get pumped and dumped). Excellent point that many, both within TRP and its "en…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 09:56 PM
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I still stand by my claims toward the future. Men's needs can be replicated easier than women's. I agree. Or, at least, enough of their needs to keep them satisfied. Edit: With regards to men that aren't invested in a family. Some men actually value family as their #1 priority. For them a tenga egg isn't going to cut it.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 09:37 PM
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Just stalked you a bit and read what you had to say about /r/theredpill in AskMen and I have got to say I always love to see someone (male or female) that can look at things unbiased without jumping to conclusions and cherry picking to support one's rage or adoration of said thing. Nice! I look forward to your contributions as "an outsider looking in" on this sub.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 09:29 PM
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Because they are naturally complimentary. One in a person attracts the other in a person.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 06:08 PM
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Your idea of a better man within Red Pill is not the only idea of a better man within Red Pill. This is my immediate thought. The "decline" you see may be more of a "not inline with my values" which is not the same thing. I will say that I have noticed that both the feminist trolls and the PUA seem to think that that is all Red Pill is which actually has made me wonder how many of the PUA are trolls trying to direct the conversation to what they assumed TRP to be. But I'm just a paranoid person.…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 05:39 PM
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I can see that. I think some already miserable men are using TRP to validate (and in some cases inflame) their misery.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 04:32 PM
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Us men have a convenient guide of how to do this over at /r/becomeaman. There is no /r/becomeawoman. I've been thinking about this lately, how badly we need one. Maybe someday we can come together and create one. I have sort of created my own version of this (or am in the process of doing so) in an attempt to organize my self-improvement goals. I have given myself a "woman-up" challenge where I am studying up on and improving upon set out areas of my life like my physical, my sex life, my cookin…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 04:30 PM
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100% agree! That thing that turned me off of Paleo for so long was that it cherry picked history and then tried to make it a "historical diet", which it's not. But it has its own merit without resting on that. I don't think grains are bad enough to stay Keto or go Paleo but as far as a sort of fat flush? I'm game!
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 03:45 PM
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The only conclusion I can come to is that the term applies a bit more broadly than "this or that". I suppose in this case context is everything. Alpha males, true Alpha males, are in the minority and for good reason (naturally) but the difference between the Beta men you are referring to and the ones I am referring to is Beta/Alpha and Beta/Beta.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 03:34 PM
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Lions are also pretty henpecked. I generally don't like to compare men to the animal kingdom. The comparison never fails to fall short. Edited to add: What I am trying to say here is that such a man gives all the power to the woman(en) in his life. He is reliant on them and their good graces. They leave him and he's toast. He really has no weight in the relationship(s) at all.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/13 03:31 PM
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The title is based on stuff like this: http://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/women-hate-hate-hate-beta-men linked and quoted in the GoT White Knight link where he says "women hate Beta men" (it's what got me thinking about it). Betas are just unaware men that are doing their best to get through life & are doing what they were told to do their entire lives. Is Beta men synonymous with Blue Pill men?
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 02:47 PM
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I also think this really depends on who you are asking. Some in the Red Pill are going to believe providers to be "poor sap" Beta men because they personally view being a provider as always being manipulated and used by women. They can't see providing for a woman as anything but weak. the true hallmarks of the beta male arent concern for women, love of women or caring for and providing for women in a caring relationship, they are FEAR of women, supplication of women and the (at least a professed…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 02:38 PM
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You may just be right. I have noticed that people forget that Beta attributes can be and are a good thing but when I am saying Beta Males I am not saying men with Beta attributes as much as men who fall into the mindset that Beta attributes are the only thing a man should have. That's why I said Beta Men as opposed to Omega because Beta men are purposefully trying to be Beta in order to be non-threatening to women. But there is so much confusion and misuse of these terms that it gets rather conf…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 02:27 PM
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but are present fathers often not beta providers or men who turned beta as they aged, or through their marriage? Maybe now but then and earlier? Less so I'd imagine. Husband and father isn't ipso facto Beta provider.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/13 01:05 PM
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Obvious disclaimer: I'm not a man. But I have dealt with someone who exhibits this behavior more than once (I'm related to her) Get the law on your side (because it is, I'm sure) and express that to her. You don't have to put on some massive display of anger to let it shine through. Let her know you are standing your ground, that you are immovable, without saying those words and that you are both willing and ready to get the authorities involved. Don't let her push you around. She means little t…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/13 02:12 AM
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I want so badly to argue this with "there are much better examples out there!" because 50 Shades is so terribly written but I would be, in effect, NAWALTing. 50 Shades is by and large the most popular which in and of itself makes it a prime example of what the vast majority of women are thinking, feeling, and want. Obviously part of that want is dumbed down easy reads with lots of sex and men taking charge. What a shocker (/sarcasm).
/r/TheRedPill07/07/13 02:07 AM
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My mistake- what I meant by 'non-threatening' is non-threatening to me. A sort of "I'll just stand here and take cues from you and make no sudden movements."
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/13 10:37 PM
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To be honest I married really young. I didn't date much at all so I may not be the best person to ask. I suppose the men I did date were a bit different but not drastically so. I had one that knew what he wanted and went for it but he was very lazy. I had another that didn't know what he wanted and basically wanted a mother to bring home the bacon and take care of him every other way. I had one that just sort of stuck to my side the whole time. And then my husband. At the end of each one I figur…
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/13 10:05 PM
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