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pre-covid i had a lot of luck with dance classes. dunno if thats a big shock tho lol
/r/seduction31/03/23 03:46 PM
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consent is no joke
/r/seduction22/05/22 08:50 AM
1

those are not 'shit tests' that just sounds like flirting. maintain frame, build attraction, escalate with consent. you're overthinking this. stop seeing it as a test. see it as a conversation. be honest. be sexy. be confident. you're not being tested; you're testing her
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:46 AM
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good points. i have a reputation as a ladies' man. but i get tons of rejections. tons. thats good. it means im making tons of approaches. my friends might be shocked to learn how often im rejected. they only see the successes
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:45 AM
3

yeah but its better to be honest. the truth always comes out eventually. better to not waste your own time.
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:43 AM
1

'i just want to let you know im not looking for anything serious right now'
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:42 AM
2

arcades are a great date for sure
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:42 AM
1

timing is everything. context is everything. ive had lots of hotel parties but you have to broach the subject at the right time in the right way so they dont feel like a whore, or feel unsafe. not that there's anything wrong with sex work, but if its not their gimmick they wont like the feeling
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:41 AM
2

i would say that if anything this sub often has misogynistic bullshit posted which demeans women. women are no better, or worse, than men. using them for sex is wrong, treating them like angels is equally toxic. we're all just people searching for connection. respect your partner; yes. but dont worship them, and dont demean them either
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:39 AM
1

movie dates suck dude. ask her out; yes. but start with coffee or an activity. not movies or food
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:35 AM
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very mixed. some girls hate it, but for some it shows them you're not a creep and have lots of options for female attention in a good way
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:33 AM
4

go say hello, engage in passionate conversation. do NOT be aggressive, do NOT give shallow compliments, do NOT use corny lines. who told you any of that was a good idea ?
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:32 AM
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dont worry about 'signs'. signal intent, build attraction, escalate with consent.
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:31 AM
1

build attraction and escalate with consent. same as always.
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:30 AM
1

Actual pickup is all about self improvement. There are no shortcuts. The truth always comes out eventually But self improvement will benefit your whole life in all ways, not just with women
/r/seduction06/04/22 07:40 PM
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Go read the wiki. Get your fundamentals sorted first. You're drinking the worst kinda misogynistic koolaid possible Be yourself. Be the best version of yourself. Fashion, grooming, physique, career, hobbies, friends, and most importantly ; social skills You dont need to lie to game Then make approaches. Put in the work. Signal intent, build intimacy, escalate with consent You dont need any tricks to game. You just need to create an emotional bond and act on it when the time is right.
/r/seduction06/04/22 12:26 PM
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literally 95% of romantic movies. you just have to know what to look for. signal intent, build attraction, escalate. check off the steps the next time you watch any romantic movie. 95% of them fit perfectly. its a simple formula.
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:39 AM
1

Play the numbers game. Respect your time. A lot of pickup is just efficient time management
/r/seduction06/04/22 08:55 AM
1

make the move now. right now. why wait?
/r/seduction06/04/22 08:44 AM
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i always make the approach. if she's not into it she will let me know.
/r/seduction06/04/22 05:55 AM
12

shoot your shot. she will let you know.
/r/seduction06/04/22 05:54 AM
3

Sure she can. But if you dont try you cant succeed. If she rejects you move on to the next one. Keep playing the numbers game
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:52 AM
3

strike while the iron is hot; get in there ASAP.
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:46 AM
2

troll post. no one is this dumb
/r/seduction06/04/22 03:39 AM
4

Drop the ego. Dont play stupid games. Use text to set up dates, never to build attraction.
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:10 PM
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That's defeatism bro. Grow up
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:59 PM
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Both
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:53 PM
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Wrong
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:52 PM
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It's bad advice tho
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:45 PM
1

I'm not famous, i sleep around a lot
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:32 PM
1

By not needing external validation. That's insecurity
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:31 PM
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Ask for consent
/r/seduction05/04/22 12:03 PM
2

Ask for consent if you want to kiss him. If not dont stress about it
/r/seduction05/04/22 12:00 PM
1

Ask for consent and use calibration. Empathy and communication.
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:59 AM
1

You cant escalate on the phone, so stop stressing over it
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:58 AM
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You are, creep
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:57 AM
1

Then go out with her
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:56 AM
95

Overthinking 101
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:56 AM
1

dont be covert. be overt
/r/seduction04/04/22 06:28 PM
4

Generally yes
/r/seduction04/04/22 01:32 PM
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They dont
/r/seduction04/04/22 01:31 PM
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Go to the subs homepage and either look at the top or side if the screen . Top for mobile. Side for PC
/r/seduction03/04/22 11:05 AM
1

The wiki is a good place to start
/r/seduction03/04/22 10:43 AM
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no. do not touch someone without their consent. that is sexual assault. use your words. but use them at the right time. use your words to turn her on in a situation where you can escalate. then, when you know she wants it, ask for consent. make it sexy.
/r/seduction03/04/22 09:57 AM
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i dont think a pep talk will provide a permanent solution to that. i think letting go of ego and being judgmental in the first place is the real solution
/r/seduction03/04/22 09:20 AM
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well i wont disagree with you there. but if thats the case i think getting over your own ego is gonna yield the best results, not just in game but in life. pumped up confidence built on bullshit is still gonna leave you open to self doubt and ego issues, and judgmental thinking. to me real confidence isnt built on judgement and arrogance. its built on letting go of those things.
/r/seduction03/04/22 09:19 AM
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i disagree. i dont think self sabotage is a guarantee if you actually study the fundamentals. 'fake it till you make it' is exactly how i first approached game and i had great success doing it that way.
/r/seduction03/04/22 09:18 AM
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its just ego. 'do i deserve to be a good carpenter?' why attach morality and self esteem to a skill? invest in your skills and you'll find success. game is just another skill.
/r/seduction03/04/22 08:52 AM
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They can but they don't have to, 'fake it till you make it' exists for a reason. You can have low confidence but still affect (not effect) the right attitude to score. Or you can have great confidence but still be shite at game. Game is a skill. If you cant divorce your ego from game you'll always have a hard time whether youre cocky or insecure. And using the word 'deserve' to me implies a moral judgment. Which again; i dont think should apply to your skills (like game).
/r/seduction03/04/22 08:47 AM
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your 'inner world' doesnt have anything to do with what you deserve either. tons of guys on here are sexual predators and they still have success, doesnt mean their 'inner world' is a good place or that they 'deserve' their success. game is a skill. its a tool. morality doesnt enter into your skill level. we can only hope people use their skills morally. but obviously not everyone will
/r/seduction03/04/22 08:02 AM
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deserve has nothing to do with it. make approaches, signal intent, build attraction, escalate with consent. you'll find success whether you 'deserve' it or not.
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:55 AM
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dont touch anyone without their consent. thats sexual assault
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:53 AM
1

what cultural thoughts? this is the most vague post in a long time here
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:52 AM
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treat it the same as any other relationship. build attraction and escalate with consent. youre overthinking this
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:52 AM
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same as with ANY OTHER FEMALE. dont overthink this. shes only human. she has the same emotions and the same sex drive as anyone else. turn her on and escalate with consent
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:45 AM
0

stop linking your shitty videos
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:44 AM
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sex isnt a logical decision. dont approach it logically. sex is an emotional decision. turn her on, build attraction and escalate with consent. only ask for consent once you know shes turned on and likely to say yes. dont ask when shes cold and dry.
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:42 AM
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this is not bad advice, however in my opinion confidence comes from success. instead of a pep talk i think its better to just encourage people to study their fundamentals and make approaches, success and confidence will follow.
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:40 AM
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well i dont see the point in escalating online personally. but as long as everyone is consenting then its all good. personally i always just arrange to see them in person where i can escalate in a way thats more satisfying for me
/r/seduction03/04/22 05:47 AM
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i have no idea what you mean by indirect. but if you like someone; be direct. value your time.
/r/seduction03/04/22 05:13 AM
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read the wiki
/r/seduction03/04/22 04:55 AM
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if you think thats appropriate then sure, just ask for consent first. personally i dont show off the goods till i can escalate in person tho.
/r/seduction03/04/22 04:13 AM
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For daygame ; stay in motion. Walk around. For night game ; sip your drink and chill. It's all good. Just don't be in anyone's space
/r/seduction03/04/22 02:25 AM
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Style. I dress very flamboyantly and I noticed a big change in my game as soon as I started doing so. Even someone who doesnt love your specific style will appreciate the confidence and effort you're putting in
/r/seduction03/04/22 02:24 AM
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Ask for consent
/r/seduction03/04/22 02:22 AM
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no. the wiki. the sub has a wiki attached
/r/seduction02/04/22 09:48 AM
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read the wiki
/r/seduction02/04/22 09:44 AM
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i think he has the right idea, but that line is garbage. do not use that line. ever.
/r/seduction02/04/22 08:55 AM
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dont worry about what youre doing wrong until you know what to do right. read the wiki. do you know how to signal intent? how to build attraction? how to escalate with consent? get some fundamentals
/r/seduction02/04/22 08:01 AM
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see; love languages. does she touch you? does she spend time with you? does she do things for you? does she buy you gifts?
/r/seduction02/04/22 07:58 AM
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you just sound entitled. put in some work. do some research. read the wiki. make approaches
/r/seduction02/04/22 07:57 AM
1

so why are you here then?
/r/seduction02/04/22 07:54 AM
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it really depends on your relationship. personally im usually down for FWB so i tease them back and try to escalate. if im not down for FWB then i ignore them, or just look bored. if youre feeling uncomfortable about sex, intimidated by sex, or embarrassed by sex then your frame is weak. maintain frame. have a better relationship with your sexuality, have some more confidence. youre not sleazy for taking them up on their advances. you need to match their energy. not in a pushy way, but in a conf…
/r/seduction02/04/22 07:45 AM
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You greatly overestimate my technical proficiency there my man lol
/r/seduction02/04/22 07:36 AM
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its a plot point in 'Crazy Stupid Love' and i think the advice given there is very solid
/r/seduction02/04/22 06:32 AM
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that part i fully agree with yes. i have a friend who is smoking hot and one of her BFFs has a huge crush on her. she keeps telling me she would give him a chance if he werent such a slob. but bro, even without being a slob he is an ugly motherfucker. i hope he never cleans up his act because im trying to hook up with her lowkey lol im not a great looking guy but i'm 10x better than him, even without his sloppiness. she doesnt care tho, she likes him. except for the sloppiness.
/r/seduction02/04/22 06:29 AM
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'its a picture of a big fat slob' is fatphobic. youre tainting your good advice by adding in that shit
/r/seduction02/04/22 06:23 AM
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chill your fatphobia bro. i'm a super heavyweight and i dont have issues getting laid, or getting dates. style, hygiene, confidence, charm, make approaches, build intimacy, escalate with consent, have a nice clean apartment. you dont need to be skinny to game
/r/seduction02/04/22 06:20 AM
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There are more than 2, I just thought it was funny how the progress with these 2 in particular has been in lockstep and they both want me to come over on the same day lol
/r/seduction02/04/22 05:36 AM
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only weak insecure women
/r/seduction02/04/22 05:17 AM
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ask for consent. but how to escalate is the easy part, its knowing when to do it and how to build up to it that will guarantee success, or failure
/r/seduction02/04/22 05:09 AM
2

Stop hating women
/r/seduction02/04/22 03:15 AM
1

Nah I'm nonbinary, game is for everyone
/r/seduction01/04/22 10:06 PM
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best; invited me to come sit with her at the bar, had drinks, went back to her place, more drinks, hooked up worst; led me on all night and then got her friend to tell me to fuck off, which i interpreted as her friend being a bitch because any normal human being would tell me to fuck off themself. so i not only argued with the friend but then the initial girl too because she needs to grow the fuck up and communicate like an adult and not put her friend in these stupid situations
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:35 AM
1

use probing questions to find what shes passionate about and then engage her on those topics. dont do small talk, dont interview her. seek passionate, deep conversation.
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:07 AM
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has this been a problem in the past? cause until its a problem; dont sweat it. im very intense and its always gotten me good results. emotionally needy isnt the same thing as intense and being passionate
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:06 AM
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i dont think you gave enough info. but personally i dont know why you wait a few days,m they probably forget you by then. strike while the iron is hot my man
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:05 AM
1

same exact way youre flirty with girls you already know
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:05 AM
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use calibration to determine when. but you should be able to turn her on with your words so when you ask for consent to escalate its part of the seduction and she's begging to say yes. this is basic stuff tho man, read the wiki.
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:02 AM
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read the wiki. build attraction, build intimacy. then escalate with consent. how to build intimacy? make things personal, make things passionate. no small talk. deep talk only. dont be boring. project good energy. ditch bad vibes, focus only on the good stuff. steer the conversation toward sexy and intimate topics. use calibration to determine when. but you should be able to turn her on with your words so when you ask for consent to escalate its part of the seduction and she's begging to say yes…
/r/seduction01/04/22 06:59 AM
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you should show this entire thread to your therapist. the number of red flags is off the charts. no strings attached doesnt mean manipulative ulterior motives. it can mean honestly seeking something fun and casual with respect for your partners desires and their body. and words are just as important as actions. especially when it comes to your mental health and world view. 'why you do what you do' is important , not just 'what you do'. show it to your therapist. especially that part about compar…
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:59 AM
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its not about 'beauty' . beauty is not objective. its about attraction. when you use judgmental and disrespectful language thats how youre gonna get treated. show respect to get respect. you dont show any, so dont expect any. and no we don't have 'ulterior motives' . seduction is a tool. it can be used ethically with respect, or not. but i dont have any time for people who use it to manipulate and be selfish and disrespectful if you have female friends; how would they feel about your language an…
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:35 AM
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ask probing questions to find out what theyre passionate about and stick to those topics. no smalltalk, nothing boring. you can even straight up ask 'what are you passionate about? what makes you excited?' and you should do the same; share your passions. dont be dull, dont be boring. have that good, fun, excited, interested energy. make it personal. not abstract. focus on them. not vague abstracts that dont really matter. find what matters to them. for some its work, or family, or hobbies, or pe…
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:29 AM
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the language you use reveals your intent and your character. your lack of empathy says volumes about you and your attitude
/r/seduction31/03/22 05:59 AM
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using hateful language reveals exactly how ugly your thoughts are. especially when you're already using misogynistic terminology elsewhere. its clear youve been drinking the toxic koolaid you need to stop making these comparisons, between women and each other, and between yourself and other men. its petty, small minded, and insecure. like i said above; you need therapy. get over your insecurities and resentment. and start seeing women as people who are worth it regardless of your attraction. you…
/r/seduction31/03/22 05:59 AM
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When you call women "fugly " and say straight up they're "not worth it " you're being a pig. You should be embarrassed.
/r/seduction31/03/22 05:50 AM
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again; get therapy. you know your mindset is toxic. do something about it. stop objectifying women. stop objectifying yourself. its not healthy. for anyone
/r/seduction31/03/22 05:38 AM
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when he says 'fugly girls that arent even worth it for free' he's proving himself to be judgmental. he's's judging others. so yeah he's judging himself too. its a rotten attitude to have. the thing about judgmental people is; they NEVER get to the point of being truly happy with themselves. its all petty insecure BS.
/r/seduction31/03/22 05:37 AM
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there is zero difference between talking to men and women. just seek passionate and purposeful subjects via probing questions to build attraction. but first signal your intent, and then when the time is right ; escalate with consent. its not rocket science
/r/seduction31/03/22 05:30 AM
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'fun questions' dont build a connection. learn to engage in passionate, personal conversation
/r/seduction31/03/22 04:24 AM
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you need therapy my dude. youre a seething ball of resentment, insecurity, and misogyny. youre just self aware enough to see that some of those are toxic traits, but obviously not knowledgeable enough to fix it and work on yourself. you need help. right now that help seems to be coming from misogynistic bro-dude pickup artists and incels online. get some real help, get into therapy. you're being fed a deeply skewed version of the world right now. if you buy into it then you're just gonna be mise…
/r/seduction31/03/22 04:09 AM
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make her say it first. cool your shit
/r/seduction31/03/22 04:04 AM
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That's abuse. Leave now.
/r/seduction30/03/22 11:30 PM
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That's strategy will never pay off. That's toxic, time wasting, bullshit
/r/seduction30/03/22 10:31 PM
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Mixed signals = red flags
/r/seduction30/03/22 10:31 PM
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Right conclusion. Wrong (sexist ) reasons.
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:16 PM
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You need to go meditate on what I said and exercise some human empathy. If I came into your work and started flirting with you would you really want to make a scene at work to get me to back off? Do you think it's fair to put some stranger in that position ? Just putting them in that position is rude. Just making them make that choice is awkward.
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:10 PM
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think of qualities you admire in people and build those. thats being your best self. you are the only one who can determine what you vibe best with for me its all about being laid back, confident, and upbeat. i am always having a good time, i am always the life of the party, things will always work out for me. thats my attitude. i seek adventure, i work hard, i take responsibility. i seek deep personal respectful connections with people. im not selfish but i have boundaries and standards. those …
/r/seduction30/03/22 08:00 AM
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none of this is true.
/r/seduction30/03/22 05:03 AM
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it seems that way because youve done ZERO research
/r/seduction30/03/22 05:00 AM
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No. Its skeezy. Never fuck with a captive audience. Its rude. And you wont get a genuine response anyways. They're at work. They have to be nice. You're just making their shift awkward Rude and awkward approaches are bad approaches
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:54 AM
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wow youre really doubling down on the ableism here. you sound like a real charmer
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:52 AM
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dont. thats skeezy
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:50 AM
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he's already clearly mastered that skill tho lol and its done nothing for him. big shocker there
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:44 AM
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or like a human being. both work equally well
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:43 AM
1

being even MORE humorless will just make things worse
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:42 AM
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because your taking them too seriously . and youre taking yourself too seriously. chill out. learn to relax a bit
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:42 AM
1

ask for consent
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:41 AM
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plug your ears with beeswax i guess bro lmfao what are you talking about 'siren achetype'? shes gonna crash your ship on the rocks?
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:40 AM
1

never hurts to ask. i usually only ask after building some base attraction. i dont recall ever being rejected by that point. but its probably happened. oh well, no big deal
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:37 AM
1

move? just ask for their number dude. stop overthinking.
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:31 AM
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You dont need to look sexy in your pictures. Thats why you signal intent and escalate with consent once youve built rapport. the pictures are to grab someones attention and show them youre a fun and adventurous person. use your personality for the rest
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:16 AM
1

game is a tool. what you do with that tool is up to you
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:14 AM
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go read the wiki. work on your fundamentals. signal intent, build attraction, then escalate with consent when the time is right.
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:10 AM
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never approach someone in the subway, or an elevator. making them into a captive audience is rude and stressful. stressful approaches are usually doomed to failure.
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:09 AM
1

so start approaching 'normal people ' then. wee what works with them. then graduate to women youre attracted to
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:08 AM
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Get some ammo. Sell yourself. Find things to talk about. And do NOT compliment them on their natural beauty. Compliment them on their intentional style and effort. The fewer 'natural topics' i might have the more direct i would be with someone. 'I really dig your vibe, can I take you out for coffee sometime?'
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:08 AM
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Yes conform conform conform. Very sexy to fit yourself into the mold of society lol
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:05 AM
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I like to text people updates on my day and funny anecdotes, and ask them how their day is doing too I just write one detailed message and then copy/paste it to everyone. Maybe with a pic
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:04 AM
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I'm nonbinary thanks :P and it doesnt hurt my game one bit
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:06 AM
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Masculinity that hurts men, and hurts women The idea that men have to conform to this narrow stereotype and aren't allowed to express their individuality or emotions
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:06 AM
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Because they've already bought the toxic masculinity koolaid
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:50 PM
6

You dont need to be masculine to have game
/r/seduction29/03/22 06:51 PM
0

Ask for consent first
/r/seduction29/03/22 06:56 AM
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Im not sure why youre using the word simp here ... you're having simping issues ?
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:31 AM
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Dont
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:29 AM
1

Get back in
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:27 AM
-1

Ask for consent
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:27 AM
0

Nah. Not needed. You need social skills. You need confidence. You dont need tine dominant
/r/seduction28/03/22 12:13 AM
1

Matter in what way? Like will it make things harder ? Yes. Will it male things impossible? Hell no.
/r/seduction28/03/22 12:12 AM
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Dont worry about what can go wrong. Just worry about what should go right Signal intent, build attraction, escalate with consent. Dont overthink it.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:01 PM
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I'd go with virgin versions of existing drinks, virgin margarita, virgin mojito, virgin pine colada, virgin mary, safe sex on the beach, and the no tequila sunrise
/r/seduction27/03/22 10:54 AM
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Just ask her to buy you a drink and when you get to the bar order a mocktail. If you worry about sounding weird you're never gonna make it Be confident, maintain frame. Make it look natural.
/r/seduction27/03/22 09:11 AM
2

i agree, you've gotta pick a single target. better to overcomit than undercomit
/r/seduction27/03/22 04:25 AM
1

dont decoy, make your intentions clear and dont approach at the gym, thats skeezy
/r/seduction27/03/22 03:55 AM
1

like after the date or as the date? cause you should never ever ever invite them over as the date. even after the first date its pretty rare for them to come over. and more rare for it to result in sex. its happened to me, but only a few times.
/r/seduction27/03/22 03:53 AM
6

I'm 33, had a fling with a really gorgeous 47 year old a few years ago. Shes the only one over 40 so far. There have been a few in their later 30s too tho
/r/seduction27/03/22 02:25 AM
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Ask her to buy you a mocktail
/r/seduction27/03/22 02:08 AM
3

Social skills trump everything. All the other stuff is good to have. But if you're a jackass, or arrogant, or boring, or rude, or misogynistic then you're not gonna find success
/r/seduction26/03/22 08:31 PM
6

I mean that's totally your decision to make. But in my experience experience is actually more important than self improvement. Unless you're some kind of troglodyte. Make approaches. Learn how to game. And yes absolutely work on self improvement. But you can do both my dude . At the same time
/r/seduction26/03/22 08:30 PM
1

Works for me 😎
/r/seduction26/03/22 08:28 PM
6

Hells yes. Give me the sugar momma
/r/seduction26/03/22 08:27 PM
5

Go give it a shot and you'll see its not so hard. You're overthinking yourself to death my dude
/r/seduction26/03/22 08:27 PM
2

Pimps make slaves of women. That's not a compliment.
/r/seduction26/03/22 06:11 PM
3

yes! ask for consent!
/r/seduction26/03/22 10:11 AM
1

Yes for sure. I've had a lot of FWB situations develop because of my attitude toward sex. But this is the first time its resulted in an approach lol
/r/seduction26/03/22 10:05 AM
0

I generally agree. I def got lucky on this one, but I think it's mainly due to my having a very respectful attitude toward casual dating and my partners. Respect is key. But you're right; silence is a much safer and more preferable policy
/r/seduction26/03/22 09:56 AM
6

escalate with consent. close the deal
/r/seduction26/03/22 09:36 AM
2

i understand that. and your trauma is valid. but asking for consent is not only a legal requirement but a good way to make sure you're both on the same page. consent is always good. but you def need therapy also my dude
/r/seduction26/03/22 09:32 AM
1

making approaches is the best way to maximize your results yes. its pretty rare for women to make approaches, it does happen tho, just not often. ive had a few women make moves on me, but yeah really rarely
/r/seduction26/03/22 08:12 AM
7

you should def seek out therapy my dude. but of course 'making a move' always needs to involve asking for consent anyways, otherwise yes its sexual assault
/r/seduction26/03/22 07:38 AM
1

if she's shy keep building attraction and intimacy. draw her out of her shell. but you also have to signal your romantic intent so you dont end up in the friend zone and/or waste your time.
/r/seduction26/03/22 07:37 AM
1

Its "good " vs "better " . Neither is bad but being overt is better . It let's you play the numbers game and maximize your time
/r/seduction26/03/22 06:53 AM
-8

no
/r/seduction26/03/22 05:53 AM
1

dont be subtle
/r/seduction26/03/22 04:02 AM
-11

misogynistic bullshit
/r/seduction26/03/22 03:54 AM
2

Thanks :) it's made a huge difference in my game
/r/seduction25/03/22 10:55 AM
2

Hope it helps my friend.
/r/seduction25/03/22 10:51 AM
2

good stuff you're on the right track then
/r/seduction25/03/22 10:23 AM
3

texting just sucks in general. ask her out. show her your interest. if you really want to build intimacy then dont text, phone call or video call if you cant be in person. but in person should always be the goal, its the only way you can escalate
/r/seduction25/03/22 10:16 AM
3

well i personally just assume everyone is into me until i have proof that theyre not lol it helps me project good energy. for me energy projection is such a huge part of game. just having that very confident aura
/r/seduction25/03/22 10:15 AM
8

it wont hurt to try. it will be harder for you, but i dont see dating as impossible for anyone. ive seen men with disabilities get dates, albeit perhaps not quite as severe as your disability (twisted limbs, and amputations).
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:38 AM
7

there's honest and then there's oversharing. seek out passionate conversation that paints you in the best light possible. and dont have low investment messages. use txt to set up dates. my very first message ot anyone is to ask if i can take them out on a date. dont let people waste your time with smalltalk. mentioning past relationships and trauma is a huge turnoff. its something you can do once youve established attraction, but until then its very unattractive. its a red flag. lead with happy,…
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:34 AM
1

lol you wish you were me
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:31 AM
2

heal your trauma so you can actually deal with people properly.
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:30 AM
2

If your trauma is making you keep people at arms length and that's causing you pain then I'd say you're not really dealing with your trauma and moving forward to making a happier life for yourself You can use trauma as an excuse, or you can actively work to get over it and be happy. You deserve to be happy. Dont let your trauma win
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:26 AM
0

If asking for consent ruins your game plan then you have no game in the first place loser
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:23 AM
2

do not be subtle. communicate clearly. 'i want to date you. i dont want to be friends. if you dont want to date me dont waste my time' do not allow them any possible way to misinterpret you
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:09 AM
2

like 75% of the posts on here about women having standards and boundaries are made in bad faith. so when someone says 'do women despise X?' its a safe bet that its just rooted in misogyny.
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:07 AM
2

great answer king :)
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:03 AM
8

fashion is the more expensive, but it can also yield really good results fast.
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:02 AM
5

lost 40lbs, and bought a new wardrobe. hoping to lose another 40lbs. so far down 8 inches on my waist.
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:01 AM
4

thats only true of people who dont address their trauma. if youre actually working on recovering and moving on then i think that will be a huge green flag for any potential partner to see. but yeah if you have unresolved trauma thats manifesting in bad behaviour and youre refusing to treat it then; red flag. the trauma itself isnt really the issue, its your reaction to it i have a lot of trauma. i did therapy, im still working on getting over it. ive never had a bad reaction from a woman when di…
/r/seduction25/03/22 09:00 AM
2

clubs and parties are very different atmospheres IMO. at the club i ask a girl to buy me a drink. at a party im a lot more chill. i just go right into trying to build intimacy
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:57 AM
1

i always do my approaches when i arrive at the club. then i chill out and have a good time after my approaches are done. fewer missed opportunities that way IMO. better to do it when you have time so you can be at your best.
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:54 AM
2

youre overthinking this 'how can i get in touch with you?' is all you need to ask. snap, insta, facebook, text, whatever. just take what she gives you and roll out. its just like asking for consent before a kiss, if you do it right it projects confidence. if you do it wrong it might be awkward, but awkward can be cute too.
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:53 AM
0

no its not. if you really believe that then explain why you think it is
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:51 AM
0

ask consent before you touch anyone
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:50 AM
1

misogyny 100%
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:48 AM
-3

why would they? it sounds like youre projecting here
/r/seduction25/03/22 08:48 AM
1

same*. i consider it an asset. they usually feel more comfy with queer people. just make sure you signal intent properly and you'll be fine. *to be fair i am ace and nonbinary, but not gay.
/r/seduction25/03/22 07:43 AM
-1

Fat phobia running wild
/r/seduction25/03/22 05:46 AM
0

still relevant considering how many on the sub still dont understand consent
/r/seduction24/03/22 11:50 AM
0

asking for consent can be very sexy if done right, it shows respect, and its the law. failing to ask can not only be a huge turnoff, but its also illegal. its a small thing that cost nothing and can enhance your game in several ways
/r/seduction24/03/22 09:11 AM
0

dont touch anyone without their consent
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:42 AM
0

read the wiki
/r/seduction24/03/22 04:08 AM
1

always ask for consent first. theres no way to fuck up then
/r/seduction24/03/22 03:20 AM
2

Wrong
/r/seduction24/03/22 03:14 AM
19

Yes. That's why self improvement is such a big part of game
/r/seduction24/03/22 01:56 AM
22

All you need are the fundamentals. But in any educational experience you need to balance practical and theoretical. Reading how to build a car engine will be overwhelming unless you're step-by-step also seeing it and doing it and getting your hands dirty Go make approaches. Experiment. Refine your technique. Then read some more theory. Rinse and repeat. But really the fundamentals are all you need. Signal intent, build attraction, escalate. That's it.
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:26 PM
1

Be humble, admit your flaws Work hard, improve on your flaws Make approaches, put yourself out there Experiment, find what really works best for you Respect yourself, respect your date. That means; respect your time, be honest, ask for consent, set boundaries and demand they're respected too, communicate clearly Have fun
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:22 PM
1

Yeah. Its skeezy to approach someone at work or at the gym.
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:18 PM
2

Maybe you dont understand what it is that you're selling on a date you're selling a fun experience. You're selling passion.
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:17 PM
1

Always ask for consent before touching anyone
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:17 PM
2

So leave her alone
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:16 PM
2

Same reason men contradict. Its not a gendered thing
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:14 PM
1

Yikes. Why would you want that ? Just hire a hooker bro
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:14 PM
2

Not at the gym no
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:13 PM
1

You don't need to be masculine , or even male, to do pickup
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:13 PM
4

Game knows no gender. I'm nonbinary and asexual and game has changed my life, and my perspective on game can help you get better at your game too
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:11 PM
0

Make opportunities for yourself
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:10 PM
12

My only ever 'same day lay ' was me going to a bar solo and hooking up with a solo female
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:09 PM
7

To not waste my time on it
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:08 PM
2

blessings <3
/r/seduction23/03/22 05:02 AM
2

what does this have to do with game? why is this sub allowing these misogynistic rants ?
/r/seduction23/03/22 04:22 AM
1

Dark triad might be attractive to kids, maybe, but not to adults. And the more we educate kids on healthy relationships the less that will appeal too
/r/seduction23/03/22 04:04 AM
1

taught me how sexy it can be to ask for consent, and how big of a turnoff it can be to not ask for consent. no change otherwise really. ive always been a feminist anyways. it is important to recognize tho that masculinity isnt opposed to feminism at all tho. dominance is a turnoff, but leadership isnt. pushiness is a turnoff, but confidence isnt. masculinity isnt toxic. people just use masculinity as an excuse for their toxic bullshit a real man is a gentleman. masculine and strong, but not inse…
/r/seduction23/03/22 03:30 AM
2

Theres a good article in the wiki Generally I'd say taking good photos really is key tho. Not selfies, not mirror selfies. Photos of you doing fun shit and looking stylish. My photos have me in the Rockies, in the woods, axe throwing, at an apple orchard, by a river, at a pumpkin patch. And looking stylish The bio hasn't been super important for me. I change mine every few weeks. Nothing has made a huge difference for me there. Just keep it positive and passionate.
/r/seduction23/03/22 02:40 AM
2

Hasn't been my experience. Cold approach works great for me . Much better than OLD
/r/seduction23/03/22 12:37 AM
6

Because you're out if your comfort zone You're unlearning bad habits and learning new good habits Growth isnt always comfortable Until you start to see results
/r/seduction22/03/22 05:53 PM
1

Some people almost succeed and it inspires them to quit Some people almost succeed and it inspires them to actually succeed The difference is attitude. Right now your attitude sound shit mate. If you believe you cant win ; you're right. Guaranteed. If you believe you can win, all you need is some effort and intelligence and you can do it
/r/seduction22/03/22 05:29 PM
3

Self improvement is not manipulative
/r/seduction22/03/22 05:26 PM
-1

You dont need to be manly to have game
/r/seduction22/03/22 05:26 PM
1

Make approaches
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:57 PM
1

You cant
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:56 PM
1

Hard to fall for one girl when you're seeing 4 girls
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:33 PM
1

"Its just not gonna work babe "
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:30 PM
1

Depends on your style and your audience. Do what feels right. Experiment. See what works better
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:28 PM
1

Not ideal. Should just be a quick coffee to make sure shes not a catfish. Or an activity if you already have met her in person. Not food or a movie
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:23 PM
1

Nice isnt bad. But it's the bare minimum. Be nice. But also be stylish, well groomed, confident, well spoken, and positive
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:22 PM
1

What does this have to do with game ? Those are deeply unattractive statements to make
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:20 PM
1

"Come with me back to my place "
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:20 PM
2

Using probing questions to find their passions and engage with them on those things they're passionate about
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:18 PM
-3

Boundaries have nothing to do with masculinity You dont need tine masculine to have game and to have healthy boundaries
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:16 PM
3

yeah i mean this sub has pretty tight postign rules. thats why there's r/askseddit for more generic questions. but enforcement hasnt been there for a long time now. and r/askseddit is basically dead i think, but it used to be a much more active sub than this one because of the posting guidelines being looser
/r/seduction20/03/22 09:50 AM
18

yeah after Reddit banned the incel subs a bunch of them migrated over here to spew misogyny and wallow in self pity. hopefully they start getting removed by the mod team soon.
/r/seduction20/03/22 09:45 AM
2

well then you're gonna have to modify your game a lot. i'd suggest doing more OLD. especially Bumble might be good. But if i can get laid with a belly on me you can def get laid my dude.
/r/seduction20/03/22 09:01 AM
2

shit son i dont get any 'choosing signals' either. its kinda a bullshit term. signals dont matter. approaches matter. game matters. invest in your social skills and in making approaches. its way more important than the gym
/r/seduction20/03/22 08:57 AM
-5

Because its misogynistic bullshit
/r/seduction20/03/22 08:16 AM
0

what the fuck is snap? damn i feel old sometimes lol
/r/seduction20/03/22 07:20 AM
15

you dont have wingmen, you are the wingman lol. explain to your bros how the game is supposed to be played, or ditch them. right now theyre not wings; theyre cockblocks
/r/seduction20/03/22 07:19 AM
1

just be honest. communicate
/r/seduction20/03/22 04:19 AM
2

ust be yourself and stop overthinking. the exact same amount of effort can be too much for one person, but also not enough for a different person. we're all different and there is no magic formula
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:27 AM
1

start with hello
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:16 AM
-10

more incel bullshit. fuck off man.
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:15 AM
4

if your delivery is good any line can work if your delivery is bad no line can work
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:07 AM
4

pickup might not be for you bro, maybe you should just get a GF?
/r/seduction19/03/22 07:47 PM
3

i have good luck on other apps, but Tinder is super dry for me. if youre not really handsome its not gonna work out
/r/seduction19/03/22 07:32 PM
29

bro followers doesnt mean shit. stop psyching yourself out and go for it
/r/seduction19/03/22 07:15 PM
3

you cant really, and shouldnt try to. texting is dry AF. use texting only to set up actual dates. texting has no body language, no tone, no idea how busy they are, and worst of all; YOU CANT ESCALATE OVER TEXT!
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:56 PM
1

bro dont worry about competition. worry about yourself and your own game. yes dont waste time, yes move to escalate ASAP. but that has nothing to do with any other guys
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:35 PM
3

texting almost anyone is dry AF . texting should only be used to set up dates. not to attempt to build attraction
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:33 PM
1

no. its supposed to be fun
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:32 PM
3

bro im asexual and even i can escalate. what exactly are you hoping for us to tell you here? if she's too drunk to consent dont even take her home, if she's DTF ask for consent and escalate. this is not goddam rocket science
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:31 PM
1

It's all about timing. If you build up to it properly the escalation is easy. Turn her on verbally, and emotionally. Make her want it. Make her want to say yes. And then ask for consent.
/r/seduction19/03/22 06:19 PM
72

study game, make approaches, go on dates, build attraction, escalate, be attractive. and by 'be attractive' i mean; be well groomed, be well dressed, be well spoken, be passionate, be fun, project good energy, have good manners. bonus if you have money and are in shape, but those are bonuses
/r/seduction19/03/22 01:50 PM
-1

For the purposes of this thread ; I dont. I always wait for them to escalate on me. And I certainly hope they don't ask for consent because I love when people dont respect my bodily autonomy. Seducing me with their words would be such a waste of quality time when I could be getting groped instead
/r/seduction19/03/22 12:08 PM
2

even the best approach will come off as creepy to some people. a standard approach isnt a terrible idea, but its also not absolutely needed. its good to experiment, and its very good to suit your approach to your audience.
/r/seduction19/03/22 07:41 AM
11

i once asked a girl out on a date. and then when i showed up at her place to pick her up i said 'you know what, lets just skip the date and fuck right now.' and somehow that didnt work? she even cancelled the date! what should i have done differently?
/r/seduction19/03/22 05:53 AM
17

i once asked a girl if she wanted to 'hang out'. and then i didnt flirt with her or attempt to escalate at all. and now she just thinks we're friends? what did i do wrong?
/r/seduction19/03/22 05:52 AM
43

i once went to the club and didnt make any approaches. and then i didnt even get laid . no women approached me at all. what did i do wrong?
/r/seduction19/03/22 05:51 AM
2

Building trust and building attraction are closely aligned. Spend time with them. Be honest in general as a person. Dont be fake, dont sugar coat things.
/r/seduction19/03/22 04:16 AM
1

With good delivery I can see it working for sure
/r/seduction19/03/22 04:14 AM
1

youre overthinking this. holding frame should be something you do unconsciously without thinking. have swagger, have confidence, you'll be fine in that regard. it should be an unconscious thing. what you should focus on consciously is signalling intent and building attraction in other active ways, by engaging her mentally and engaging with her passions and showing her yours
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:45 AM
2

thats probably a bit too superficial in my opinion, but still much better than smalltalk yes.
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:36 AM
1

nothing is 'too personal' in general. use calibration to determine whats too personal for her specifically tho dont make smalltalk. find something shes passionate to talk about using probing questions. or just straight up ask 'what are you passionate about?' and when its your time to talk also engage in your passions. make the conversation passionate and emotional. not generic and forgettable like it would be with smalltalk.
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:34 AM
1

go and say hello
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:32 AM
2

just be honest
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:32 AM
1

meh. it wasnt that big of a deal. we went out like 6 times, but ultimately yeah she wasnt able to communicate like an adult or deal with her feelings
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:31 AM
1

Was just trying to give her a chance to communicate
/r/seduction19/03/22 02:42 AM
5

you search for a good reaction because you arent sure you deserve it. how do you gain confidence? be better, do better. seek self-actualization. know that youre a good person regardless of what the world thinks. know this by living it. treat people right, help your community and your planet, have empathy, support just causes.
/r/seduction18/03/22 06:07 PM
1

Lol no. Acknowledging her feelings and saying i could try to accommodate her isnt begging. Its communicating. Healthy relationships are built on that.
/r/seduction18/03/22 05:45 PM
6

External validation is only sought by the insecure. Gain real inner confidence and you won't need it.
/r/seduction18/03/22 05:32 PM
3

I get laid all the time. 6' 3" 285lbs right now. My weight has varied from 310 to 265 this past year. Slimmer makes it easier. Its like playing on easy mode. I wanna slim down a lot. But it's still very possible while being chonky
/r/seduction18/03/22 01:39 PM
3

she explained why she ghosted, i asked her to give me another chance, she declined. that was it. nothing very exciting.
/r/seduction18/03/22 09:22 AM
6

i sent one girl ghost emojis every day for a few weeks until she actually responded lol but really you should just forget them and move on
/r/seduction18/03/22 09:10 AM
2

Psychic contact ? Who are you Charles Xavier ?
/r/seduction18/03/22 04:59 AM
1

No. Being deceptive about how you look, or what you have, is not the same as being deceptive about your intentions and fucking with someone's heart and feelings Its unnecessary cruelty All deception is unnecessary tho. Be yourself, be honest in your intentions. That wont stop you from playing the game. Signal intent, build attraction, escalate. You can do all of that honestly with good faith. Without fucking with anyone's feelings
/r/seduction17/03/22 08:27 PM
1

Deception ? No. There's no need for that.
/r/seduction17/03/22 08:21 PM
5

I've had amazing sex with people I've barely known. Sex is just sex sometimes. Dont be afraid of your orgasm. It's not some magical mysterious thing.
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:50 PM
4

You're really so ashamed and afraid of sex ? Bro, grow up
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:48 PM
2

It's just bad financial planning lol i mean ive rented cars for dates and even that was really just too much. Yet to be happy with those investments. Cant imagine spending 10x more
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:31 PM
2

What does this have to do with game ?
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:23 PM
24

Fuck no
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:00 PM
-6

Dont "go for the kiss " ask for consent to kiss her Respect is sexy. Unwanted touching is not sexy. If you have game and know how to ask properly then it will make her want to say yes even more. Other than that I agree with your advice 100%
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:56 PM
1

Maximize your ability to use multiple paragraphs
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:53 PM
1

Be yourself
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:39 PM
2

"Wanted to leave you wanting more babe "
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:37 PM
2

I make my approaches early. Get them out of the way then chill. I set myself a quota of 10 or 20 approaches per night depending on how busy the club is. After that its party time
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:28 PM
1

Not true at all
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:26 PM
1

If you have 15% body fat just walk around shirtless and show off them abs son. 15% is very lean
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:24 PM
2

Timing is vital, but don't book a plane just to go on a first date with someone
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:22 PM
1

Id say my female friends have more respect for me after seeing me dating attractive women.
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:21 PM
1

I have good luck with OLD. But maybe it's harder in India. If you have female friends maybe they can take you to the club ? Be your wingwomen?
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:25 PM
1

That's sounds kinda lame. I'd probably focus more on daygame and online dating then personally.
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:19 PM
1

I dont know what the vibe is like in your country but here in Canada going to the club solo is fine
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:15 PM
1

Exactly. So focus on that for now. But don't disparage dancing! Lol dancing is a great tool to have
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:12 PM
1

Theres nothing wrong with showing off if your vibe is right. But you need to have the social skills to turn attention into escalation
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:10 PM
16

As a Canadian this just doesn't ring true to me, sorry.
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:08 PM
1

That's fair. I wish you luck
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:04 PM
2

Practice, practice, practice. If you think shes down then just ask for consent and go from there. If she says "no" then just go back to building attraction till another chance presents itself.
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:04 PM
1

Having virtues is effective yes. Dont fall into the "virtue signaling " culture wars bullshit tho. That's just something that people with no morals say to shame people who have human empathy and compassion
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:02 PM
5

If you were older I'd say "what is the talking stage and why do you need it ? Signal intent, build attraction, escalate. There is no talking stage " But I dunno what works best for a 15 year old
/r/seduction17/03/22 05:00 PM
9

I really think just reading the fundamentals and then making approaches is the best thing. Refine your technique live. It's not super complex. But requires practical application. Too much theory can just make people nervous in my opinion. Making approaches and analyzing mistakes cures anxiety and improves game better IMO
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:58 PM
7

The easiest way is to just make it clear it's a date verbally when you ask them out. Just try to communicate Flirting is also very important tho to let them know you don't see them as a friend, and you don't want them to see you as a friend either
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:32 PM
2

not only is it rude to corner someone, or bug them at work. but if theyre not comfortable and able to speak their mind your odds of a successful approach go down the drain. a good approach is one where they feel safe and comfortable. you want an approach to be a fun experience, not an intimidating one
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:09 PM
4

ive had the exact opposite experience. being a good dancer has led to women approaching me just because most dudes around here cant dance bonus; dance lessons are a great place to pickup and a great place to take a date too
/r/seduction17/03/22 12:35 PM
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dont. never corner someone. dont take advantage of a captive audience. same reason you dont approach someone working, or someone at the gym.
/r/seduction17/03/22 12:33 PM
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Read the wiki. Then start making approaches. Learn from your mistakes. Refine your technique. Post here when you have issues and questions not covered by the wiki There are a lot of free resources outside of reddit too. Back when I started in 06 I just cruised blogs and pickup websites for info.
/r/seduction17/03/22 11:56 AM
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That totally depends on your audience. I do the same approach with everyone. Some find it creepy. Some dont. Out of my control. You need to stop being afraid of what other people think. A huge part of pickup is getting rid of people who dont like you and moving on to people who do Rejection is good. It brings you closer to a better match
/r/seduction17/03/22 10:49 AM
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signal intent, be flirty, build attraction. wait till the end of the date to escalate (with consent). signalling intent is super important. make it clear its a date. make it clear youre not a friend, youre a potential partner
/r/seduction17/03/22 10:21 AM
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good points
/r/seduction17/03/22 10:05 AM
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good advice thanks :) yeah when i had 3 in one day the middle girl got mad cause i showed up late and left early lol
/r/seduction17/03/22 09:38 AM
1

'are you free sunday or monday? can i take you out?' is the message i copy/pasted to all my girls. some of them are def more ambiguous than others though.
/r/seduction17/03/22 09:27 AM
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signal intent, build attraction, escalate (with consent) it starts with clear communication. dont leave things ambiguous. and when the time is right just ask for consent before you touch anyone. 'can i hug you? ' 'do you want me to kiss you?' 'how bad do you want me to fuck you right now?' asking for consent can be very sexy when its done right. but first; make sure your intentions are clear. 'let me take you on a date' . dont allow her to think your intentions are other than romantic and dont f…
/r/seduction17/03/22 09:13 AM
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it is hard when you have no momentum. just keep making approaches and refining your game and you'll have success eventually tho.
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:17 AM
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worrying about whats 'weird' is gonna handicap you. go have fun. fuck what people think is weird. wherever you go youll find haters, but youll also find people who love your brand of weird. so go do what you wanna do.
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:53 AM
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All of these bullshit pseudoscience ideas are rooted in misogyny Women aren't that complicated. Go make some approaches and you'll see that. They're 99% the same as men. You just need to have good social skills, be honest and upfront, be worth their time, and you'll be fine
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:45 AM
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Titties
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:39 AM
2

The fuck are you rambling about? What does this have to do with pickup? Make approaches, signal intent, build attraction escalate. Who cares how TF evolution works?
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:39 AM
1

you dont need to be masculine to have game. you need to have confidence, you need to have good energy, you need to understand the fundamentals of the game. thats about it
/r/seduction17/03/22 03:13 AM
1

Well I hope they're getting fined then cause it's still the law to wear them here
/r/seduction17/03/22 02:17 AM
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It's true not because guys are scared but because fuckboys will constantly be manipulating her for her body. Until eventually she has so many trust issues she's incapable of forming healthy relationships. Guys are shameless, they're not afraid. But this is only tangentially related to pickup really
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:58 PM
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I'm not being disruptive. Signal intent, build attraction, escalate. That applies to any seduction regardless of gender
/r/seduction16/03/22 12:37 PM
1

No. Pickup knows no gender.
/r/seduction16/03/22 12:18 PM
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im nonbinary
/r/seduction16/03/22 11:36 AM
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Original poster, not original post. Your other comments are super cringy and disrespectful
/r/seduction16/03/22 11:02 AM
1

I think I understand your analogy but that's exactly why i have almost no male friends
/r/seduction16/03/22 10:52 AM
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Tinder is not all of OLD. those experiments are usually trash. and the whole point of game is to start punching above your weight class. when you blame the world for your failures you dont stop failing. when you take responsibility and learn to play the game you can start winning.
/r/seduction16/03/22 09:08 AM
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its only tough if you dont know what youre doing. learn to play the game. and 'tough' isnt 'chasing the top 1%' like the OP is claiming.
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:57 AM
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If you're actually going out then you should know damn well that women aren't hung up on handsome dudes. And it's the same online. I'm average looking, I've been almost only doing OLD since the pandemic started. No issues. You're living in a fantasyland
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:36 AM
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Ask for consent
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:27 AM
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Same old incel BS. Dont you guys ever get sick of your delusional pity parties ?
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:26 AM
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Again ; boldness and respect aren't opposites. OP is coming in with major aggro and entitlement. That's what's disrespectulful. And yes women can tell creeps to fuck off. But we should all be doing it. We all have female friends and family members that we dont want subjected to this bullshit
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:09 AM
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Strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats. An assessment leading to an action plan.
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:34 AM
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You can be bold without being disrespectful. And strong without being domineering. See ; being a gentleman It's the difference between being a leader and a dictator
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:22 AM
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You know her better than we do man. If anyone should be able to do a SWOT on her it's you
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:17 AM
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Dont
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:16 AM
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Yeah. I think IG is just better because if you're a creep it's easier for her to block you. She has more control. That's a good thing. It will make her feel more comfortable. You don't want to pressure and pester anyone you want to let them come to you. You want to make it easy for them to say yes If they want IG then do IG. Show them you're confident and respectful.
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:13 AM
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Well maybe. Maybe i just dont notice them. Yeah if someone said we weren't having sex I'd say "I'll remember you said that when you're begging for it later " lol. Or maybe "how would you define sex ? Toys are still okay ?" . Depending on the vibe. Always tease. Always maintain frame. Never take them too seriously. But i still dont really see it as a test. Usually it's just them projecting. If they bring up sex it means it's on their mind and you should def go for it. Use it as a chance to build …
/r/seduction16/03/22 06:56 AM
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ive been doing pickup for like 12 years and i still dont understand 'shit tests'. never been an issue. i dont really know what they are or are supposed to be
/r/seduction16/03/22 06:45 AM
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Too shallow to work for me.
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:53 AM
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Start by reading the wiki Then start making approaches. Learn by experience. Find your style. Understand the fundamentals yes. But no amount of reading can truly level up your skills like practice
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:38 AM
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Dont be subtle. Signal intent.
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:22 AM
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Dont
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:21 AM
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😂😂😂 right
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:14 AM
1

Okay incel If that were true I'd never get laid
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:12 AM
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It's relevant because knowing their experience can help you seduce them. And because the OP is clownishly one sided
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:23 AM
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Its true often enough to effect how women behave
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:22 AM
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Because its pertinent to the topic. And its pertinent to knowing how to seduce women
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:22 AM
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No that's not the point. It's still assault. And statistics do carry weight. If you need anecdotes go ask your female friends.
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:35 PM
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No one deserves to be assaulted at all. Its assault regardless of your gender. But it does overwhelmingly happen more to women
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:27 PM
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I dont really care what men think of me. I'd say the woman I attract are just as smart and experienced as anyone Its working well for me. I'm not saying your advice is bad. I just dont really understand it Without my gear I'm just another white dude as far as looks go
/r/seduction15/03/22 07:16 PM
1

Yes that's my bullshit too lol How would you say the simple fit look is better ?
/r/seduction15/03/22 06:54 PM
1

Can you elaborate a bit ? I'm not familiar with Mystery Method, or at least not that term
/r/seduction15/03/22 06:52 PM
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Most people who get assaulted actually dont report it. I've been sexually assaulted 4 times, and never reported it.
/r/seduction15/03/22 06:40 PM
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Cant think of anyone who deserves it more than you champ
/r/seduction15/03/22 06:11 PM
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I will. She hit me in the head with a hammer.
/r/seduction15/03/22 06:09 PM
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No. I've been assaulted and I've been used for dick. Both suck.
/r/seduction15/03/22 06:06 PM
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Yeah but men dont have to worry so much about being assaulted while on a date or used solely for their dick
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:58 PM
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Yeah but are men aware of how dangerous dating can be as a woman ? It's a constant risk of being used or assaulted. Both sides have unique challenges
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:57 PM
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You dont need a skillset to be successful. And everyone's definition of successful is different anyways. Besides ; who cares what women are aware of ? What does that have to do with game ?
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:56 PM
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I go the opposite and have lots of flash. Works great for me. Why would you say it's a bad idea ?
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:54 PM
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Have a unique style. I wear a leather jacket, skinny jeans, motorcycle boots, lots of rings, bracelets, pendants, sunglasses. I'm noticed everywhere I go. It's not a look for everyone but those who like it really like it. And everyone can see I have style and confidence. Your style might be different but still make it a bit loud. Be a rockstar.
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:53 PM
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With covid ongoing I think apps are the safest way to game right now
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:50 PM
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Yep. Especially since they're always at risk of assault
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:48 PM
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Men get rejected, but women get used. Pick your poison. It sucks for everyone.
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:47 PM
1

I probably should, but no
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:45 PM
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If you're already building such good rapport then you're halfway there. You just need to signal intent, make things a bit sexual in tone, and then escalate (with consent) when the time is right. I mean an example that springs to mind is going over to a friends place for drinks and when in arrived i said " if we're gonna fuck then we should do it before we drink cause I'm gonna get whiskey dick for sure " She laughed and said "ew gross we should never fuck " I said "okay. Just remember you said t…
/r/seduction15/03/22 10:57 AM
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movie dates suck. but good movies make it slightly better. still not desired tho. same with dinner dates. they also suck. but good food and good ambience makes them better. better dates; any activities archery, axe throwing, bowling, darts, billiards, laser tag, rock climbing, a pottery class, a museum, an art gallery, horseback riding, a hot air balloon, go karts, an arcade, a glass blowing class, a dance class any shared experience you can have together that will be unique and exciting. the ex…
/r/seduction15/03/22 10:15 AM
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i have good solo pics. but all my group pics are either me and one girl. or i look like shit in them. are either of these ever okay to post? or better to stick to solo pics till i get better group ones?
/r/seduction15/03/22 10:06 AM
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'i love your vibe. can i take you out for coffee' is my 'go to'. its a compliment on something intrinsic but undefined. and its a signal of intent that i want to actually see them in person ASAP. 'what do you mean by my vibe?' is a common response. or 'maybe you can take me out, but lets chat a bit first' . both provide a good framing and good leads on extending the convo and taking things to a real date
/r/seduction15/03/22 10:04 AM
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frame is your perception of the world. in my frame im the ultimate object of desire. frame control is making other people perceive the world the way you do. frame control will be me convincing people that i am the ultimate object of desire. in your frame im probably just some geek on the internet. i need to break your frame, reject it, and destroy it. and replace it with my frame. i need to 'reframe' your perceptions of me. its basically a shorthand for branding yourself or selling yourself. mar…
/r/seduction15/03/22 10:01 AM
1

mystery is sexy. defining a relationship is usually a turnoff. unless you guys are already pretty serious and have been going out (in person) for a while
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:57 AM
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if theyre making approaches and you still cant close then yeah youre doing something really really wrong. review the basics.
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:56 AM
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why would you want to be in the friend zone? be friends or fuck off. respect your own time
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:55 AM
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'im a millenial, i learned everything on the internet' stop advertising your shit website on here tho bro
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:54 AM
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dont have a 'normal convo' (whatever that is) have a passionate interaction. make your intentions clear. and escalate. ask for a date. make it clear its a date. go on a date. build attraction. escalate (with consent) when the moment is right
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:52 AM
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just make sure you ask for consent first. if you don't feel comfy asking for consent; you havent built enough intimacy to touch her yet anyways. you need to make sure she's ready. wait till the right moment. dont grope her and turn her off. make her want to say 'yes' first and then ask her.
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:51 AM
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competition doesnt matter if youre being yourself. no one can be you better than you. competition only matters if youre trying to be 'better' than someone else at being them. dont do that. dont be generic. be unique. be you
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:49 AM
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just keep doing exactly what you did the first time. dont fuck with success there is no 'in general' at this point. there is only how this girl needs you to act. worry about 'in general' when you dont have a specific woman in front of you
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:47 AM
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first of all; yes secondly; no matter your body someone will find it sexy AF
/r/seduction15/03/22 09:45 AM
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You're wrong
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:12 AM
1

Yep. And you dont need to be a man to do pickup either 💪
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:06 AM
1

All the alpha male/ beta male BS is just toxic drivel
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:06 AM
1

Yep. Enbie or NB , same thing
/r/seduction13/03/22 06:00 PM
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Nonbinary person
/r/seduction13/03/22 05:15 PM
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As an NB who does pickup let me say that's bullshit
/r/seduction13/03/22 03:27 PM
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You're not wrong. Baby steps are good
/r/seduction13/03/22 01:06 PM
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If you dont love women you shouldn't be doing pickup Go get a fleshlight or hire a hooker Women deserve better than to be treated as walking sex objects
/r/seduction13/03/22 12:25 PM
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I agree with your first statement. But it has nothing to do with gender or gender roles
/r/seduction13/03/22 12:22 PM
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No , you can be extremely friendly as long as you signal your intent. But that's gotta be a first step, and an ongoing reminder. You are not her friend, you are a potential lover You dont need to be brash. You need to be honest and communicate.
/r/seduction13/03/22 12:21 PM
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Yes for sure. And I totally agree. Just wanted to add a brief addendum in support
/r/seduction13/03/22 11:50 AM
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i dont disagree. i'd just add that 'basics' dont need to include 'scripts'. they do need to include an understanding of how to signal intent, and build attraction, and when to escalate. scripts wont hurt. but if you dont have fundamentals they wont help very much either
/r/seduction13/03/22 11:32 AM
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No. Just tell her. If you cant tell her in a seductive way then you have no game. And ask for consent before you touch anyone. Dont be a creep. Same thing ; if you ask the right way it's a big turn on
/r/seduction13/03/22 11:20 AM
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It can def depend on a lot of things. I'm not a very sexual person for example, so communicating clearly is important because I dont drop as many 'hints ' as some might
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:53 AM
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well my experience is women take mixed signals as a 'no'. and we should too. ive always had good success being very forward with my intentions
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:42 AM
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i would always steer clear from small talk. small talk is boring. dont be boring. find something shes passionate about to talk about (via probing questions). and share your passions with her. make the conversation passionate from the get-go. build an emotional connection. smalltalk is largely a waste of time IMO
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:32 AM
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that just seems like a good way to waste everyones time. why build intimacy before its defined? itsnt that exactly how you end up in the 'friend zone'? every guide i see, and all my experience, says you need to establish intent before you even begin building intimacy. can you give some examples of sources or reasoning?
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:31 AM
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explicit. do not hint at all. state it plainly. 'i like you, i want to take you on a date'
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:20 AM
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yes for sure. especially if its very specific. 'i love those shoes' or 'that bracelet is very intriguing'
/r/seduction13/03/22 07:09 AM
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you can say literally anything as long as you have good energy. talk about something youre passionate about, something funny. and try to probe to find out their passions my most recent 2; we were waiting in line to get into a bar. both solo. i asked her about the bar, the vibe, is it worth the wait? asked her if she was alone and if she wanted company. we got to talking about music. we both like heavy metal. she loved my attire (leather jacket, band tee, motorcycle boots) , it was a big draw for…
/r/seduction13/03/22 06:43 AM
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im not familiar with either, but you should def experiment with both and find what works for you.
/r/seduction13/03/22 06:31 AM
2

Vague title is vague
/r/seduction13/03/22 06:25 AM
1

'Women R Us ' they have a wide selection and great prices
/r/seduction13/03/22 06:17 AM
1

ask for consent before you touch anyone. even for a hug. dont be a creep a first date isnt different from any other date rho. signal intent, build attraction, escalate (with consent). just stick to your fundamentals. and use calibration (empathy) to dial it up or down.
/r/seduction13/03/22 05:14 AM
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i dont really. if anything game has changed the way i interact with people all the time. i always strive to project a fun, accepting, adventurous, high energy, vibe. pickup is just sales. a different kind of sales. but still sales.
/r/seduction13/03/22 05:11 AM
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As an NB who uses pickup let me say ; you're dead wrong asshole
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:20 PM
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Review the wiki. Review different theories. Different approaches. Different techniques. Understand how fundamentals work. Understand why they work. What works for me wont for you per se but the fundamentals will be the same. Signal intent, build attraction, escalate. It usually boils down to those 3 phases.
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:01 PM
0

Pickup isnt about male/female, its about person/person
/r/seduction12/03/22 03:59 PM
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Yeah you'll be fine. I lost mine at 22. And i was also incredibly inept at first. Just study the game and out in the work and you'll be good in no time. Just a few months
/r/seduction12/03/22 12:36 PM
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Gotta play the game. I've heard hinge is good but haven't tried it. Bumblebee has been better for me than tinder but still not great. I'm older so I'm still using POF lol just set on my ways. But it's still working for me the best of the 3 I've tried
/r/seduction12/03/22 12:23 PM
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Shit son. I'm pretty good in person, and on other apps. But Tinder is so shallow I've never had luck there. Good luck. But maybe you should try finding a better platform? I have lots of dates without Tinder
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:40 AM
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I'm nonbinary :P But surely even some men can control their urges and have some basic respect and decency. You ever hear the word "gentleman " ?. That's a kind of masculinity way beyond you chump
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:30 AM
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everyone will make different mistakes unfortunately. for most it seems to be simply not making enough approaches. but for others the issues arise later. not asking for consent before touching someone is a big one. but most people have enough common sense not to do that. make sure you signal intent. make sure you dont escalate until enough intimacy has been built. just study the basics. and practice a lot
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:22 AM
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dont hit on people while theyre working thats just skeezy
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:20 AM
0

its not unreadable, its just annoying to read. use paragraphs
/r/seduction12/03/22 07:10 AM
1

Yes and code for ; I'm gonna pretend to be your friend but really it's all a creepy manipulation because i dont have the confidence to be honest
/r/seduction12/03/22 06:43 AM
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that only works if you can get matches lol like i said im not the best looking person. so for me in-person is better
/r/seduction12/03/22 06:01 AM
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they are somewhat correlated yes. i dunno man, an approach takes like 2 minutes. 10 approaches can take like 30 minutes. you cant put in 30 minutes to get a lead? to me thats just lazy. and he's being oversensitive and letting his ego get bruised by total strangers rejecting him
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:41 AM
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Nah i dont do consolation prizes. I respect my time and my company I def dont become friends with everyone who has rejected me, or who I have rejected . But some of them are really badass. Otherwise I wouldn't have wanted to hook up in the first place
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:26 AM
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youre overthinking this. it really doesnt matter that much. have a place in mind yes, some backup places maybe. have options. but dont stress if she has a preference or other suggestion. wait to see if you need to take the lead before you jump in but also; dinner dates suck. i'd strongly recommend not going on dinner dates at all unless youre already dating for some time
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:23 AM
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my experience is that cold approach is better than apps. im not very handsome, but i have good game in person. the benefit to the apps is you can do it any time 24/7. but the overall success rate is way lower in my experience. i like both tho, you just have to recognize your situation and what your assets are
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:18 AM
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yeah but if you enjoy their company its all good. your friends should be validating you. i know at least one of them really likes me because she gets jealous when i tell her about my dates. but she doesnt want anything casual and i dont want anything serious RN.
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:07 AM
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you need to grow a thicker skin man. even for me my success rate is still only like 25% on a good night. and some nights are bad, so it evens out probably back to 10%. you just need to put in the time to find your audience and get the rejections out of the way ASAP. its just like cold calling or doing door to door. play the numbers game. dont have an ego about it
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:06 AM
2

theres no such thing as the friend zone you geek
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:00 AM
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rejection is part of the game. a 10% success ratio is pretty standard, no shame in it. once you get a few girls in regular rotation it wont feel so tedious
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:56 AM
2

who cares? approach if youre interested, ignore if not
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:47 AM
1

get back to basics. study the fundamentals. the first thing you always need to do is signal intent. then you start building intimacy. if you dont signal your intent is romantic then yes they will mistake your interest as friendly. dont be a friend, be a lover.
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:46 AM
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my 'go to' is to ask the girl to buy me a drink. if she says 'yes' i know shes into me. if she says 'no' then i can tease her and see if she has a sense of humour. 'come on hun guys must be offering to buy you drinks all night, be a feminist and even the scales' if she has no sense of humour its not gonna work out anyways. if they ask 'why should i buy you a drink?' and seem interested i say 'cause i want to see if you really like me, or if you are just here to get boys to buy you free drinks' i…
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:45 AM
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yes you need to set your boundaries firmly and communicate them clearly. personally im down for 'situationships'. but not everyone is. thats cool. just communicate. i have a few women who told me that theyre not down for casual sex and we ended up just being friends, its all good
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:37 AM
0

very true lol
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:36 AM
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Yeah first our mods got less strict and started allowing non pickup posts and then when the incels got nuked by Reddit a lot of them sleazed their way over here just to bash women and complain about SoCiEtY But theres still some of us fighting the good fight and dating women because we love women. And trying to show men they can be successful if they're just willing to be better and work smarter
/r/seduction12/03/22 02:45 AM
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Just try to be honest with them. If you think they're catching feelings let them know in a respectful way that you're just not looking for that right now. With some people its obvious earlier than with others. I mean some women haven't been down to be romantic with me at all till they realized my casual attitude and it really turned them on. Just be yourself and you'll find your people. If you're not yourself tho you never will find them
/r/seduction12/03/22 01:45 AM
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There's no such thing as the friend zone. If you dont wana be friends be honest and fucking leave her alone
/r/seduction12/03/22 01:23 AM
1

You need a better title
/r/seduction12/03/22 01:21 AM
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You can have feelings without getting committed and entangled. I love* all my girls, and all my partners. I care for them deeply. It doesnt mean we're a good love match tho. It's okay to just have some casual, respectful, consensual fun. *okay love is a strong word. But at the very least I like something about them. Otherwise it wouldn't be any fun to hang out and hook up. We have hearts and feelings. We're just maybe not ready for commitment.
/r/seduction12/03/22 01:20 AM
1

Care to elaborate ? My experience hasn't always agreed with that statement
/r/seduction11/03/22 08:16 PM
1

You're gonna have some strange man over to your apartment for music ? That would feel safe to you ? If not then start at the beginning. Start with the setup and pre date. Those are the most important steps in a relationship
/r/seduction11/03/22 08:10 PM
2

Women have to protect themselves from sexual assault. They need to be very cautious. I've had a few same day lays, but it's rare. Dont rush things. Follow the process, be patient. Build trust and attraction, escalate when the time is right
/r/seduction11/03/22 08:07 PM
3

Bro clean up the formatting on your post so its more readable
/r/seduction11/03/22 08:05 PM
11

Doesnt matter. He should still be honest. Escalate or get lost, unless you really are open to being friends. Dont encourage her games, dont play games, be direct.
/r/seduction11/03/22 12:36 PM
2

Like the wiki ?
/r/seduction11/03/22 12:06 PM
1

Thats why you always need to signal intent. its step 1 in seduction
/r/seduction11/03/22 09:43 AM
23

if you dont want to be friends then dont pretend. be honest.
/r/seduction11/03/22 08:37 AM
1

I usually escalate from kissing to oral and I do ask for consent to do that. But it's a bit of a greyer area
/r/seduction11/03/22 07:45 AM
1

Yeah it depends on the person and situation. Sometimes the massage comes first, sometimes making out. It depends on the level of attraction and intimacy and fun. A massage is more slow and sensual. Making out is more hot n heavy. Both are fun. It depends on the vibe.
/r/seduction11/03/22 07:44 AM
1

That sounds like good game to me 💪 asking for consent is a chance to be playful
/r/seduction11/03/22 06:39 AM
1

Not enough approaches ?
/r/seduction11/03/22 06:34 AM
1

Get unrusty lol maybe buy some toys you can put in your pocket ? I know it sounds wack but i legit carry a little bottle of massage oil with me and no one has ever questioned it lol I love to escalate from an intimate back rub Or possibly explore blue chew / viagra? As stone cold said "you dont have to need it to love it " lol
/r/seduction11/03/22 06:18 AM
6

fake it till you make it. invest in yourself. invest in your style, your fitness, your apartment, your finances, your friends. make approaches with some swagger, even if you have to fake it. eventually you'll reap the rewards that will give you real confidence
/r/seduction11/03/22 05:39 AM
2

very rarely yes. but it depends on what you mean by 'escalate'. its easy to recover from her saying 'no' when you ask for consent to kiss her. its very hard to recover from groping or sexually assaulting her. make it a fun, flirtatious conversation. show her you respect her, but you're not shook by her having boundaries. maintain frame and make her want to say 'yes' . you're offering her a chance to have the best night of her life. if she doesn't take it then someone else will
/r/seduction11/03/22 05:37 AM
-1

don't call women 'hoes' you sleaze
/r/seduction11/03/22 05:34 AM
1

youre messaging too much. messaging/texting should just be used to set up dates, not to build attraction. if you want to build attraction before dates do phone/video calls. but dates are preferred. only use the phone/video if its gonna be several days before you can actually see them for the date.
/r/seduction11/03/22 04:46 AM
47

fear of not getting a date if i dont make an approach fear of missing out on a good thing because of my own insecurities
/r/seduction11/03/22 04:32 AM
1

I have good luck with some apps, but yeah tinder is tough. Same pics as the other apps gets me no play on Tinder. It's the shallowest app. I have game. But I'm just not very handsome.
/r/seduction11/03/22 02:45 AM
46

No. You'll end up practicing bad habits and engraining boredom and resentment
/r/seduction11/03/22 02:42 AM
2

ive never had PA. turn off your brain. relax and enjoy. youre a badass, youre gonna rock her world. even if you have whisky dick you can please her in other ways. have confidence in your skills and experience as a lover. (but if at all possible avoid whisky dick for your own sake lol )
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:39 AM
1

i think a part of game is definitely knowing how to not have these blanks. keep some talking points on hand.
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:35 AM
1

perfect game man thanks
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:34 AM
1

They're both badass open-minded women.
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:42 PM
1

High risk high reward is my whole life lol I have other girls in rotation so really the risk is fairly low.
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:40 PM
1

If one guy has a cowboy hat and shitkickers on and the other guy has a leather jacket and motorcycle boots on i dont think they're much competition for each other anymore tho. Not many women will be down for either. If you actually have a style you eliminate a lot of competition without being "better " or worse
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:39 PM
0

All is fair in love and war. I've gone out with my friends with the mutual promise of "if neither of us can find hookup we'll hookup with each other " But that situation did involve more honest communication
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:36 PM
1

Ah I didnt know that. Okay yeah fuck them.
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:34 PM
2

I have lots more in rotation yes lol maybe that's why im getting cocky.
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:34 PM
2

Ah okay. Well as another poster said; it's irrelevant. Your interest is what's most relevant. If you're interested ; make an approach. If not , dont.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:43 PM
3

Theres probably a more polite way to say that, but I cant disagree with your core message
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:41 PM
4

IOIs?
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:40 PM
1

If that were true I wouldn't get any pussy
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:31 PM
1

Kekw?
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:25 PM
3

Yeah i just need to perhaps find the best way to frame things.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:42 PM
1

Nah man I'm average and some of these girls are pretty hot. Not all, but some. Even looksmatch debunks your negativity tho. Theres nothing wrong with looksmatch
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:41 PM
0

if that were true then OLD wouldnt work for me at all. but it does. your theory is debunked my man
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:05 PM
2

you should make this a post on the main page man. great stuff
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:04 PM
1

being unique is valuable. im like an NFT baby lol my experience has been it does equate to success
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:03 PM
3

possibly the best advice so far. and makes me realize i probably do need to be more honest here.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:02 PM
1

her GF is this little phillipino girl with pink hair and a split tongue. honestly the tongue scares me man lol
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:53 PM
0

disagree. be unique and no one can compete. i might not be 'the best' but im the only one of me. im the best at being me
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:51 PM
3

i feel youre onto something but i'd also like some more specific examples
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:48 PM
5

youre gonna hype me up just to trick me into doing something silly right? well.... its working lol i'm getting hype
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:42 PM
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thats true. my plan does rely on not getting caught or being observed too closely.
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:41 PM
1

good points. im not afraid to sit solo. maybe im just being too optimistic because the similar situation before worked out well. but yeah this situation is significantly different. im on the fence, because being optimistic has worked well for me in the past lol maybe im just getting cocky. i have a few more days to think anyways
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:38 PM
1

i disagree. i think strong game can overcome your looks to a large (not total) degree. im not very handsome or ripped myself but i have good game. numbers game can make up for the rest. theres a woman out there for every body type and appearance. but it can be hard finding them without numbers game
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:37 PM
-4

good points. i had def considered the threesome idea because theyre both freaky lol but what if the performer's GF gets jealous? lolololol
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:34 PM
15

badass. she wants the D bro. make your move
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:28 PM
-11

They're both so wild I'm super tempted to try and wrangle a threesome lol but that would be too optimistic ( insane ) even for me.
/r/seduction10/03/22 12:51 PM
1

practise. become a better actor. or perhaps just stick to online dating
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:24 AM
2

dont worry about complimenting them, unless its on something they did intentionally, not god-given beauty. compliment their outfit maybe, their style, their vibe. but more importantly be fun, exciting, and confident. engage them and try to start a conversation. all you need to say is 'hello' and then let your conversational skills go from there
/r/seduction10/03/22 11:06 AM
1

ive had good luck with it yes. but i have rules never approach solo women, only groups. otherwise its intimidating for them always approach in more public spaces like main streets. never in alleys where its intimidating for them. keep your distance. dont get to close to them physically. maintain nonthreatening body language. do not engage to the degree you would in a club. accept rejection quickly, easily, and gracefully. again; give them no reason to think you are a threat in any way. if they d…
/r/seduction10/03/22 10:51 AM
-1

i think this is more likely the OP being dumb and not engaging the passion of his dates. you cant expect them to pursue you. give them a reason to care
/r/seduction10/03/22 10:14 AM
5

just ask. communicate. asking for consent and being shot down is easy to recover from. groping someone is really hard to recover from. i mean other than that im not exactly sure what your issue might be. are you asking for consent? are you doing kino? are you waiting till the end of the date? more info might be needed here
/r/seduction10/03/22 10:12 AM
1

since covid most of my game has been online. for me it is just slightly harder than in-person. but the wiki has a very good guide on how to set up your profile. a good profile is key. adventure shots, body shots, minimal selfies or mirror shots, a unified style. other than that treat it like any other woman whose number you might have. use texting/messaging only to set up dates past the initial attraction building. build attraction? yes. but only minimally and then escalate to a date. if she say…
/r/seduction10/03/22 10:03 AM
29

bro i once sent 2 girls the same message, and it turns out they were friends. they got the same message at the same time while they were chillin together. lolololol yeah i buried myself on that one
/r/seduction10/03/22 09:16 AM
3

its all about passion. different people are passionate about different things. some respond really well to touch, some dont for example. so thats why theres conflicting advice. also; you may just not be suited for some people and their 'love languages' or the things theyre passionate about. so advice that works for me might not work for you generally; probe her via conversation to find topics which elicit a strong positive emotional response. if she loves her job; talk about work. if she hates h…
/r/seduction10/03/22 09:13 AM
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i do a lot of copy/pasting texts and sending different girls the same texts. the other day i texted them 'yo what are you doing for lunch today?' i made plans with one girl, then cancelled when a hotter girl responded, then cancelled on her too when an even hotter girl responded lol not my proudest moment. but ya gotta play the game. and for the other two girls i promised to 'make it up to them'. and it actually kinda worked as a push/pull thing
/r/seduction10/03/22 09:06 AM
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she only gets 1 free ticket tho. i actually did tell her i'd invite people, and she's hype for that because she gets paid based on tips and attendance. but so far the only one RSVPed is the other woman.
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:36 AM
9

the numbers game can overcome weak game, and i agree with your points, but i think OP needs to work on his fundamentals if he's asking these kinds of questions.
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:28 AM
2

go back to basics. fundamentals. signal intent, build attraction, escalate. this sounds to me like you're not building enough attraction before escalating. by the time you escalate she should already be DTF. if she's not; dont touch her. keep building attraction till she's ready. its like emotional foreplay. you need to warm her up first. don't just 'go in dry'.
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:27 AM
2

your post doesnt have enough detail. but also; text is a bad place to 'advance' (whatever you mean by that). you cant close over text, there is no body language over text, there is no tone of voice over text. if you want to escalate; do it in person. the longer you pussyfoot around the more time you waste and the less she thinks of you as something new an exciting
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:23 AM
1

i feel your pain. im juggling a bunch right now and its hard. its like a full time job lol emotions? those are always hard to manage my dude. just be straightforward from the hop tho, if you dont want a relationship dont lead anyone on. it's so much easier and healthier that way
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:04 AM
5

you know what the problem is, you refuse to fix it, what do you want us to do? just go be forever alone dude. that way you wont have to actually grow as a person or improve. you can wallow in your misery. just leave the rest of us out of it
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:00 AM
2

because they can see there are woman who dont think youre a creep. so you must at least be respectful towards women, not a predator, that goes far. also; insecurity/jealousy can play a role, and just showing you have any friends at all is good for social proof
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:41 AM
1

Just go say hello and start an actual conversation Or find a genuine compliment about her style Or (at the bar ) ask her to buy you a drink. I'm not big on routines but I do one around that. I like that one because it can result in free drinks, and shoos away gold diggers who want to waste your money on them
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:19 AM
1

Wish I could see you in action man. It's always hard to diagnose online. Just keep reviewing the fundamentals too. I just re read the wiki just as a refresher. It helps
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:12 AM
1

So mix it up and keep experimenting. I thought I was doing okay myself. Decided to try and escalate sooner and be more forward. Its really improved my game. Keep trying new approaches. Slow it down, speed it up. Find your own sweet spot. Even just a new haircut or wardrobe might help.
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:02 AM
3

You dont need to smile 24/7 but when you're making your approach and making that first impression you need to smile. You need to project good energy, show her you're laid back and having a good time show her you like her.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:58 AM
1

If you're making that manybappriaches and having no results you are doing something wrong The fact that they are talking and engaging is good. Really good. But you're doing something to turn them off . You need to find out what. Review your fundamentals and see what's missing Are you signaling intent ? Are you building intimacy ? Are you escalating ? Are you wasting time by pussyfooting around too much and sending mixed signals ?
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:54 AM
4

Thise are bad openers. Which are still better than not approaching at all Dont lead with a compliment. Especially a superficial one. If you want to lead with a compliment then make it about her personality or style. Not her looks. Always dive into pathos as soon as possible. Find her passions. Find her vibe and style. Show her you like those things. Dont be superficial. Make her feel seen and appreciated. That's seducation.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:52 AM
1

Just go say hello and start talking The opener doesnt matter. Your conversation skill matters
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:49 AM
2

Dont waste your time looking for signs. Make approaches. Find out for yourself. Make her want to fuck you
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:48 AM
1

The fuck are you talking about
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:47 AM
1

Change that
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:47 AM
1

Not weird but its a bad idea
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:46 AM
7

Get a better title for your post
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:46 AM
2

Get a better title for your post
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:46 AM
1

Get a better title for your post
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:45 AM
1

How many approaches are you making ? It sounds like you're getting pretty good results actually.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:41 AM
1

Yes you can. Go start making approaches. Donabfield report. Find your weaknesses one by one and eliminate them. Find your strengths one by one and maximize them
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:11 AM
1

Bro I swear to god that a fedora (or a trilby ) in a vacuum can be fine.
/r/seduction10/03/22 01:34 AM
1

How do you think she got so drunk at my bar ? Lol
/r/seduction09/03/22 11:29 PM
2

Even bad experience is still experience. Its not the same as making cash or overcoming depression. Even failure helps you in this case
/r/seduction09/03/22 11:28 PM
5

not enough data. but generally speaking; no. spend money on here when shes there? maybe. but before she even leaves? hell no. and drop the stupid 'beta cuckboy' red-pill bro-dude terminology. it makes you sound like a goof
/r/seduction09/03/22 10:06 AM
3

The seduction subreddit wiki
/r/seduction09/03/22 08:50 AM
5

Take NOTHING personally
/r/seduction09/03/22 08:46 AM
1

Start by reading the wiki
/r/seduction09/03/22 08:45 AM
-5

How is this a pickup question ? Who are you trying to game here ?
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:35 AM
4

I dont see how this is a pickup question. But sure. You do you King
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:34 AM
1

"Not all asexuals are sex repulsed. You can have a ton of sex and still be ace "
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:26 AM
-1

not bad, just unusual.
/r/seduction09/03/22 04:41 AM
0

if you want to be objectified then dress slutty, and be hot. try to always say 'yes' and always talk about sensual and sexual topics. but i dunno why objectification would be your goal. thats like a kink for you?
/r/seduction09/03/22 04:23 AM
1

No reward without risk. There are worse habits to have. Hookers are healthier than blow
/r/seduction09/03/22 03:18 AM
6

I've been doing approaches for 12 years and if i hesitate I still get nervous and start overthinking. Dont think. Just act. Trust your mouth to know what's up lol as soon as you see them ; go say hello without thinking. And smile. And trust your instincts from there.
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:55 AM
1

If its not worth it for you then go hire a trick But personally my life is happier having the skills I'm 33. Investing time at 22 made the next 11 years of my life 100% better. Invest in yourself. Learn the fundamentals. There is something you are doing that is wrong. You dont need to lower your standards. But you need to work smart. Or give up and go hire an escort. Either way be at peace and stop the pity party
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:50 AM
1

I accidentally got laid the other night man. I'm also a 5/10. The difference is just understanding game. If you invest in your skills you will, over time, require less and less effort till it just happens naturally. Like it did for me the other night The skill investment should be just a few months of making those 30-60 approaches per week .a busy night at the bar makes 20 approaches in a night easy.
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:39 AM
29

Full shave twice a week. I like the slip n slide experience
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:33 AM
2

That's a personal choice. What's moderate effort for me might be a lot for you. Especially considering I'm more experienced and might just he more efficient. Then again you might be a lot hotter. So its really impossible to weight How many approaches have you made in 5 months? How many each night ? How many per week ? Do you have momentum? If your making 30-60 approaches per week and having no luck for momths on end your fundamentals are fucked and you need to go back to square one. Read the wik…
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:29 AM
11

She had cats and it was mostly (mostly) litterbox stank and cat piss. I thought about taking her to a hotel instead but then I thought "if this is her apartment hygiene do I wanna get near her pussy?" It was a 2 hour drive on snowy backroads at midnight. And it was the right call
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:18 AM
13

rented a car, drove for 2 hours, had an okay date, she invited me back to her place for tequila.... all seemed to be going well.... as soon as she opened the door this stank hit me. her apartment was musty. the air was thick. absolutely nasty. i had to leave and drive home. no tequila, no pussy. 0/10 would not recommend
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:15 AM
4

Different techniques work for different people. So its not always that advice is bad. But it might be bad for you. Experience helps you refine your own personal game tho. Fundamentals generally apply to most approaches however.
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:22 AM
3

Most women assume I'm a player at first. Doesnt hurt my game. Just be yourself and maintain your frame. Keep doing what you know works.
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:20 AM
2

Get some experience
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:19 AM
3

Because they're at risk of sexual assault and they have tons of other options. Better for them to be safe than assaulted.
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:18 AM
4

Experiment
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:18 AM
1

Then you need therapy my dude
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:17 AM
1

If we're not escalating within the first 4 dates something has gone wrong or this is a very very rare woman
/r/seduction09/03/22 01:17 AM
1

Me too hun 💪
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:35 PM
8

Being deliberate is sexy. Putting effort into your style and appearance is sexy. No effort is not sexy. No style is not sexy. I have a more punk rock style. But even women who wouldn't normally be down for that style appreciate that I have style and put effort into my appearance Whatever you do, dont be generic and forgettable. Be deliberate. The specifics are less important
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:15 PM
1

They get laid more than you lol but that's a pretty low bar to hurdle. Gender is no object. You get out what you out in. Work harder, work smarter, and you'll have success.
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:55 PM
2

It happens to me all the time. And yes it happens to lesbians too lol I think this whole post is just an excuse to be misogynistic on international women's day. You're a clown
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:49 PM
2

Just move on with your life. When someone is cruel that's their baggage not yours.
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:48 PM
18

Depends on the woman and the situation. Most of my friends are women and many of them I've met via dating or making approaches
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:47 PM
1

Women do approach. They're just not approaching you. Level up your game and they will.
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:45 PM
2

Never be afraid of who you are I lost my virginity, by choice, at 22. And then I only had 1 other lover till I was 32. That was by choice. I remain proud of that fact. At the time it meant a lot to me. At 32 I had a change of attitude. And this past year I've added 5 to my body count despite several covid lockdowns. I'm proud of all my partners. They're amazing beautiful women. I'm not ashamed of a higher count this year. I was never ashamed of a low count before. And pretty soon, covid allowing…
/r/seduction08/03/22 09:01 AM
0

Sure. Why not?
/r/seduction08/03/22 08:53 AM
2

Yeah no shit. When they approach you it's all effortless. To fail youd have to be a real moron at that point
/r/seduction08/03/22 08:53 AM
1

yes but its rare. very very fleetingly rare. and hard to manage that shift. there needs to be a lot of underlying attraction that builds naturally. game is all about building that attraction fast and dumping people who are not attracted to you romantically fast so you can move on to someone who is more reciprocal. key word; fast with game you can have new women every week. with your 'method' you would end up taking months to realize you were rejected with every woman. would it work eventually? m…
/r/seduction08/03/22 07:44 AM
1

you dont need your dick to get her off. use your fingers, your tongue, use toys. penetration isnt the only way to be good at sex.
/r/seduction08/03/22 07:40 AM
1

you dont want them to look superior, you want to highlight the differences between you so the women has a choice. i'm tall and extroverted and wear streetwear. my ideal wing will be shorter, quieter, and more professional looking. then we're not stepping on each others' toes and the ladies can choose which style they like best
/r/seduction08/03/22 07:09 AM
1

its all about energy projection. body language. and not revealing your inexperience. if you have female friends or previous situations you can use to imply experience that helps too, but its not needed per se.
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:56 AM
3

how does any of this help you with game? who cares?
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:52 AM
1

you should take them as a 'no' because they reveal the character and intent of the person. they might mean 'yes' but only if the person is very unstable. dont go for unstable people. they change their mind often. they waste your time.
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:47 AM
1

no. none of what you mention is 'platonic' or 'romantic' . those are neutral traits which you can exhibit romantically or platonically. but signalling romantic intent early, and often, is a core fundamental principle of game, and romance in general
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:42 AM
1

You dont need to fake your personality. You need to fake confidence and experience. And if you can do that then very quickly you will gain real experience and confinance
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:33 AM
9

Europe is a big place, USA is a big place. Hard to say
/r/seduction08/03/22 05:01 AM
2

About 40 approaches for me
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:55 AM
0

Well to each their own. OLD and live approaches both have subtleties the other doesnt have. I'd say I'm more effective in person too, but OLD is something you can do any time
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:34 AM
2

Just ask her
/r/seduction08/03/22 02:34 AM
-11

Easily worth it. Especially during covid. It's way safer than going to a bar or club these days and almost as effective
/r/seduction08/03/22 02:34 AM
1

I dont mean to be insensitive but; work on it. It will notice your whole life Before game i used to stutter and be too shy to talk. Game changed my life. Even tho i had to literally write scripts of what to say to women and practice them to beat my stutter
/r/seduction07/03/22 09:36 PM
1

Are you making approaches? How many ? 10 a night ? 20 a night? 30 a week? 60 a week? Play the numbers game
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:55 PM
2

Maybe you're clueless. Or ugly. Or in a small town. Who cares ? If you want to get a date go out and get one. You don't need to wait to be pursued
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:51 PM
1

A 20% success rate is not a failure. Those are solid numbers. Especially for someone new to pickup. What are you complaining about ? Keep playing the numbers game
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:49 PM
1

Yeah. In fact serious dating is very different from pickup
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:44 PM
1

I do. And i've turned a few around. But i keep it very minimal. Dont waste your own time. Respect your own time
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:42 PM
3

Because they are hard to get. Because they're not interested in you
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:40 PM
1

My opener is to ask lol
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:40 PM
1

Accents are fine as long as your english skills are on point.
/r/seduction07/03/22 03:39 PM
2

Yep. Give it like 20 or 40 approaches and you'll be fine
/r/seduction07/03/22 03:38 PM
2

I did the "fake it till you make it " and it worked fine. No one could tell. Just relax and be confident.
/r/seduction07/03/22 03:36 PM
1

Yeah asshole but you still have to use your brain first or you end up wasting most of your time and energy
/r/seduction07/03/22 02:44 PM
9

You're not listening. Why ask a question when you wont listen ?
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:56 PM
10

You're telling me Honda sells zero cars ? How many women you need ? Fewer people might want a Honda, but theres still a big market for it And dont be a Honda. Be a motorcycle. Be a pickup truck. Be a seadoo. Be a goddam horse lol be outside the box
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:50 PM
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It's not a competition. It's about finding your audience. I have a leather jacket and motorcycle boots. I'm not in competition with the dude wearing shit kickers and a cowboy hat. We're different genres. We appeal to different people. Be yourself and you'll always find your audience. Be "average white dude #7" and you'll have issues. Especially if you're afraid to show your unique personality because you think women only like one type of man
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:44 PM
3

So compare them to other dates in their category then. Dont mix your sample groups or you wont have good data to analyze. Hookups are a lot easier. Easier to get 2nd dates. Relationship material means eliminating a lot more women, a lot less likely to get a 2nd date.
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:41 PM
2

Why would you want to talk about nothing ? What's the goal there ? Talk about what shes passionate about. Enflame her passions. Turn her on. Make her interested. Dont waste time.
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:39 PM
1

Put the question in the title Wings help with several things. Options, push/pull, and putting you over
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:37 PM
3

Are you looking for hookuos or a relationship? Cause you mention one almost being a relationship. Those are different goals and require different approaches that yield different results
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:36 PM
2

I'd guess it's a lot higher than we might assume. Perhaps 50%. But we cant wait for opportunities to appear. We need to create our own opportunities.
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:34 PM
1

You're fucked Go look up the law in your area before you get charged Any nonconsensual touching can be sexual assault. Not just "sensitive parts"
/r/seduction06/03/22 01:15 PM
1

How did you somehow miss the entire "me too" movement ? Go show these comments you're making to your female friends. They'll explain to you what a creep you're being. Ask them if they've ever had a man touch them in an unwanted way. And ask yourself how a sexual assault charge would change your life. You're either incredibly ignorant of how things work in this century, or you're predator trying to keep rape culture alive
/r/seduction06/03/22 01:11 PM
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I'm 33. How old are you that you werent taught consent? Where do you live where this is not assault ? Do you not have any female friends who can tell you horror stories about guys forcing themselves on them ? Sometimes women get to nervous to resist these things, often due to precious assault. Asking for consent costs nothing. And makes everyone safer. Legally and sexually And like i said; it's a show if both respect and confidence. Done right it enhances your game You have no excuses
/r/seduction06/03/22 01:01 PM
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No. You follow the same steps you just ask for consent before you touch them. Its a show of respect and confidence If you have game asking isnt awkward. And her saying "no" is a lot easier to recover from than her saying "dont fucking touch me " And of course for kissing if you don't ask then its sexual assault so its not even a matter of game then it's a legal issue
/r/seduction06/03/22 12:54 PM
1

That's why I dont do kino. I wait till it's time to escalate Edit ; actually now that i think about it I have asked to put my arm around someone when there was a reason to do so ie; a cold night around the campfire. It's not awkward to ask. If you ask with confidence and keep your frame.
/r/seduction06/03/22 12:44 PM
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yep. i know strippers and sex workers. all they see is green. i have a few friends who do that for work, they laugh at how they manipulate guys. there is no remorse there, and no heart.
/r/seduction06/03/22 11:28 AM
1

if hes just there to fuck then yeah 20 minutes of awkwardly waiting to fuck is no worse than 40 minutes of awkwardly waiting to fuck. hes only gonna end up with women who are also only DTF. but for most women you need to actually build attraction and enjoy them as something more than a vagina with legs in order for them to feel comfy sharing themselves with you, something your friend sounds like hes incapable of doing
/r/seduction06/03/22 10:43 AM
1

youre jumping to a lot of conclusions there. maybe hes the opposite and he only talks about himself to the point of being insufferable. you have no way to tell
/r/seduction06/03/22 10:04 AM
1

i dont need to prove anything to you goofball
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:52 AM
1

i'm barely in the top 50% of attractiveness lol you're the one with the ideological bias here
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:48 AM
1

i dont think that changes the fundamentals too much. you just need to be a good dancer lol
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:44 AM
1

in my experience it's 50/50 men and women both escalate equally
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:43 AM
2

that has nothing to do with escalation. or who escalates. or if escalation is a 'gendered action'
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:27 AM
1

psychology isnt gender based
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:22 AM
1

thats bullshit. all stereotypes. ive had lots of women escalate with me. women like sex too. it's 2022 man not 1822.
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:19 AM
1

escalating has nothing to do with gender. maybe lack of escalation is his problem. but thats not a 'feminine' problem.
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:14 AM
1

i would think thats the default. with a wing you can give her options, put each other over, and maybe do a push/pull between you. but solo is just the basics yeah? make lots of approaches, signal intent, build attracted, get digits, get out. if the situation arises; escalate. but dont make it a goal to pursue hotly on a first meeting
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:12 AM
1

being feminine doesnt hurt your game. signal intent, build attraction, escalate. that has nothing to do with personal style, gender, or presentation (although whatever presentation you have needs to be deliberate )
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:09 AM
1

sure. but if youre already thinking about them then turn the tables in your head.
/r/seduction06/03/22 09:07 AM
1

your attitude should be 'theyre taller than me and i'm still gonna get more pussy than them' have some swagger man. height is no object.
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:40 AM
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no. i do zero kino. and i have no issues escalating later. you should always have consent before touching anyone.
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:36 AM
1

Yeah and good luck with pulling your head out of your own ass man
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:26 AM
3

no need to hate on thicc and skinny bois. im a thicc boi and have no issues with the ladies. and some girls prefer skinny bois too
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:22 AM
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she just wants the cashflow to continue bro. ditch her
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:20 AM
3

its not an opinion, its something well documented as being a major issue with men. it makes them miserable and isolated. they think their only outlet is to be hyper-masculine. and then when that doesnt fulfill their spiritual needs they kill themselves. happiness comes from being yourself and being able to experience and express your feelings. not from being obsessed with becoming a lion or whatever youre rambling about. even lions like to play and cuddle and relax. no animal on earth is a preda…
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:16 AM
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Again ; that's all toxic bullshit Real men aren't afraid to be themselves and have feelings. Only sheep are obsessed with conforming to these cavemen stereotypes Grow up. Your need to conform reveals a deep insecurity.
/r/seduction06/03/22 08:02 AM
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toxic masculinity is what tells all men they have to conform to some ideal of manliness, it stifles their expression and development. its why men are afraid to show human emotion and vulnerability. its why they feel alone even among friends. its why their lives lack intimacy. its why men kill themselves so much more than women.
/r/seduction06/03/22 07:44 AM
3

incels hate women and buy 100% into toxic masculinity. you're right there with them. getting laid doesnt mean you have a better attitude than they do
/r/seduction06/03/22 07:38 AM
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this is some borderline incel nonsense right here.
/r/seduction06/03/22 07:33 AM
4

i know it sucks. i was couch surfing for a while, i had a series of rathole apartments. but keep yourself safe bro.
/r/seduction06/03/22 07:27 AM
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i know man. but put your energy toward security not women. ive been homeless before. and im not exactly wealthy, i have a roomie and a minimum wage-type gig. but at least im secure. girls are okay with that. but you really dont wanna become homeless
/r/seduction06/03/22 07:22 AM
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Bro your priorities are out of whack. You dont have to be uber successful to date, but 'borderline homeless and food insecure' is absolutely not a state you can be in if you want to date. you're gonna end up getting laid and then becoming homeless if you divide your energy like that. focus on getting food and housing first.
/r/seduction06/03/22 07:09 AM
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always ask for consent before a kiss. and make sure you pick your spot properly. go read the wiki. you need to signal your intentions early, you need to build attraction and intimacy, you need to reach a moment of escalation, and then you need to escalate. trying to escalate too early or too late is bad. timing is very important. you need to understand the process well so you can execute it and fit it to your particular style.
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:58 AM
1

I'm not sure that's exactly true, or untrue But dont use incel lingo. Those guys are scumbags.
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:05 AM
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it is good, but it also makes me realize how shallow people really are. i always thought looks didnt matter, but now i have a lot of proof that they do
/r/seduction06/03/22 05:57 AM
2

310 to 270. But I was doing recomp so I lost 7 inches in my waist. Gained a lot of muscle. 6' 3" tall. Now I've got a 37inch waist.
/r/seduction06/03/22 05:36 AM
1

For me its 100% because before game I was too shy to even talk to women
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:51 AM
1

Nope. Im 33, no issues
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:47 AM
1

That's competition bodybuilder shape
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:46 AM
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I lost 40lbs and now it's like playing on easy mode. I never had issues before. But now it's just so much easier
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:46 AM
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Perhaps try better grammar Mr Caveman
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:40 AM
2

"Its all good. Maybe we can get to know each other tho. Can I take you out sometime?" I like a low pressure approach. But that's just me. You can def be more aggressive than I am and still be polite and have good results. I'm just a more laid back person.
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:39 AM
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Depends on your interests. It's not for me, but I also dont like football. Some people love football and being a fuckboi, all good. Follow your passion
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:36 AM
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All my friends are women and ; yes they work. Sometimes all a girl wants is a fuckboi.
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:35 AM
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She'll tell you so.
/r/seduction06/03/22 01:46 AM
1

Your friend got raped and you still dont ask for consent ? You're a shit friend and a shit person
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:31 PM
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You're a jackass. Asking for consent prevents assault and rape. If you aren't asking for consent; you're a predator. Fuck off
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:23 PM
1

same way you hook up with anyone. the rules dont change just because youre friends. if you want someone who is just a fuckbuddy tho then just be honest about your intentions from the getgo, although its usually just kinda a natural evolution of a failed dating cycle in my experience.
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:07 PM
1

if shes really into it then asking doesnt hurt, but asking can prevent a lot of assaults. it just makes sense to always ask. even sometimes when someone emotionally might really want to kiss you, that doesnt mean they think its a good idea and are ready to consent.
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:01 PM
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if you dont know how to ask in a way that makes her want to say yes then you have no game. and your friend def needs to get her shit together. being assaulted is not a fun time. encouraging rape culture is weak shit
/r/seduction05/03/22 01:37 PM
5

If that's what you think pickup is then you're a moron
/r/seduction05/03/22 12:22 PM
1

no thats sexual assault. if you think it will kill her mood then; she wasnt in the mood to begin with and... you dont know how to ask in a way that will turn her on and make her want to say 'yes'
/r/seduction05/03/22 11:21 AM
1

sexual tension is one thing, emotional intimacy is another thing. i do very little sexual tension in my game. i focus heavy on the intimacy instead. works well. but you still need the fundamentals of timing and calibration too
/r/seduction05/03/22 11:07 AM
3

excellent advice. a date should never be a transaction. if you dont care about them as a person; they will sense it. why would you want to sleep with someone you dont like anyways? get excited about them. be excited about them, or move on and stop wasting everyones time. if you just want a hookup; dont even take them on a date.
/r/seduction05/03/22 10:58 AM
1

ask for consent before you try to kiss someone pick your spot better for a kiss if this was a first date; it was WAY too long even if it wasnt a first date; it was still too long don't pay for everything. get her to treat YOU. you should be the prize for her. don't go on such expensive dates (shorter dates will fix this too) honestly #3-4 seems to me to be the biggest issue. dinner, icecream, and bowling. even if you were absolutely in love thats a damn long date. pick one activity, then give he…
/r/seduction05/03/22 10:50 AM
1

im not shoving it in anyones face. im just saying be aware of the tools you're using and the tasks theyre suited for.
/r/seduction05/03/22 10:38 AM
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if youre down with little girls thats fine, im trying to get with grown ass women and they have zero tolerance for it
/r/seduction05/03/22 09:56 AM
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You need a bit of cardio, but that doesnt always translate to BMI. I'm pretty chubby but I have good cardio too.
/r/seduction05/03/22 08:28 AM
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I did salsa, blues, and merengue. I have a local studio that does all kinds of different stuff. I'm by no means an expert tho lol See what's available for you locally Even a few lessons can help a lot with confidence
/r/seduction05/03/22 08:27 AM
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theyre a terror group. as soon as you start identifying with them at all you have zero credibility.
/r/seduction05/03/22 08:19 AM
2

It can hurt to try if your silly games make you come across as inconsistent and cost you a real connection And again ; the potential lost time and effort. That itself is reason for me to skip the games If you're doing push/pull and I'm not then I can play the numbers game better and have better success
/r/seduction05/03/22 08:01 AM
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same as any other woman. except they have more life experience to see through more bullshit. so dont play stupid games, just be honest with them. which is what you should be doing with everyone
/r/seduction05/03/22 07:38 AM
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stop using the incel lingo. theyre all losers who live in a fantasyland
/r/seduction05/03/22 07:37 AM
11

i took dance lessons. bonus; dance lessons are a great place to meet women and/or take women on dates.
/r/seduction05/03/22 06:54 AM
6

its good psychology, for people with low self esteem yes. people with self respect have standards and boundaries and dont tolerate those games tho. i'm not saying it doesn't work, but it only works on a certain type of people. and those arent necessarily the people you want to get with.
/r/seduction05/03/22 06:49 AM
5

the numbers game. make options for yourself. dont waste your time, dont waste their time. the people who fall for push/pull will be insecure and low-boundary anyways. people with self respect take 'mixed signals' as a 'no' if you wana make it easier for yourself build your fundamentals. do this by making lots of approaches and maximizing your OLD profile. it will yield better results long term than playing games with one potential partner
/r/seduction05/03/22 06:06 AM
6

people with their shit together takes 'mixed signals' as a 'no'. if you do this you're gonna just end up with the most insecure, low boundary, people
/r/seduction05/03/22 05:59 AM
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signal intent, build intimacy, and escalate. you really dont need to complicate it. if someone isnt into you; move on. play the numbers game. you'll find someone into you. but only if youre not wasting your time playing games with the wrong people
/r/seduction05/03/22 05:57 AM
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dont be afraid of rejection. rejection keeps you from wasting your time on the wrong girl. rejection helps you move on faster to the right girl. are there signs? maybe. is it worth your time to analyze and overthink about them? absolutely not.
/r/seduction05/03/22 05:06 AM
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i find im much less attached after sex personally
/r/seduction05/03/22 05:04 AM
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its just a shallow manipulation tactic for people afraid to be honest and straightforward
/r/seduction05/03/22 04:29 AM
1

Theres a woman out there for every man. Bro dudes aren't my favourite people, but some women love them. Thise women wont like me lol it's all good. There's room for everyone
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:53 AM
1

Okay thanks
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:51 AM
2

I do both lol I'd say each is equally effective for me personally. Approaching is fun in its own way, social networking is fun in a different way. Follow your vibe
/r/seduction04/03/22 09:09 PM
11

That you have to be masculine to be successful with women You dont You just need to be confident, to be stylish, to be well groomed, to be well spoken, to be empathetic (calibration), to signal intent, to know how to build intimacy, and to play the numbers game None of that requires a masculine energy though
/r/seduction04/03/22 09:02 PM
1

You can lift a lot of weights and still see no results if you're not actually programming your routine properly Or worse ; you can injure yourself. Understanding why muscles grow and how to make a routine is important to hypertrophy Same with game. Understand the fundamental principles first and then go and apply them. One without the other is useless
/r/seduction04/03/22 08:48 PM
1

Choosing signals ? That term isnt in the wiki, but its used a lot. What's the definition?
/r/seduction04/03/22 08:45 PM
1

I'd say I'm generally very good with people, i have lots of friends no issues with dating. I will try making ote eye contact tho. For some reason I'd always felt it was rude.
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:49 PM
1

Im not sure I ever make a huge amount of eye contact with anyone
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:35 PM
1

okay here's one; how important do you think eye contact is? the wiki mentions it, but ive never really made it a part of my own game. am i missing out?
/r/seduction04/03/22 10:28 AM
1

depends on the woman. for some with low self esteem its attractive to win your approval. but for women who have high self esteem they wont disrespect themselves by allowing you to make them just an option, they want to be a priority
/r/seduction04/03/22 07:40 AM
4

its -20 here and everyone is wearing 3 layers lol beach advice is great, but what about the winter man ?
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:27 AM
1

sounds like his biggest problem is he hasnt bothered to go through the fundamentals at all.
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:06 AM
1

practice
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:05 AM
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have you read the wiki? yes there are a lot of shitty questions, but without mod enforcement all we can do is try to educate, and promote the fundamentals so people actually understand WHY some things work and when they work
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:00 AM
1

you're overthinking. follow your passions. have confidence. seek actualization. nothing should be forced except forcing yourself to work on your traumas so you can be happier and healthier
/r/seduction04/03/22 05:57 AM
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your OP isnt talking about preferences, your OP is making sweeping untrue statements and presenting them as the gospel. some people prefer meat-heads too, sure. But your OP makes it seem like being masculine is needed, it isnt.
/r/seduction04/03/22 05:20 AM
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Meat heads being those obsessed with masculinity and conforming to societal ideas if masculinity. Conformists aren't attractive. Dont be afraid to be yourself. Stop living your life to someone else's standards. And the " most attractive feminine women " comment is just cringy
/r/seduction04/03/22 12:02 AM
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Lol you don't need to be masculine to get women. I'm nonbinary. No issues. And no male friends either. Game doesnt just apply to meat heads. Game is a set of social skills that improves all aspects of your life regardless of your gender or presentation Some girls love twinks and femboys, and some girls love androgynous guys, there's space for everybody at the table. It's not a competition. It's about finding your audience and being your best self
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:14 PM
1

2 so far
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:12 PM
1

"I'm fun, you're fun , let's have fun together " That's the vibe you wana have. You're the prize. You're amazing. And you're giving her the chance to experience that. You're doing her a favour But all your normal good manners still apply too.
/r/seduction03/03/22 08:53 PM
1

Yes. From those who were genuinely interested
/r/seduction03/03/22 07:57 PM
1

No. I've been doing pickup on OLD for like 12 years and never had issues.
/r/seduction03/03/22 12:52 PM
1

It was a great party. I did end up going home alone that night, but still had a lot of fun. Meanwhile my friend ended up having a threesome lol def a bit jealous She said she'd fuck me if she couldnt find someone cute at the bar. But i pretty much knew she would lol all good. We have a very chill relationship
/r/seduction03/03/22 12:48 PM
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Yeah but you only need one girlfriend. Keep playing the numbers game. Just modify your approach if that's what you're looking for
/r/seduction03/03/22 12:37 PM
1

It really depends on the personalities involved. I have friends I would, but also some i would not. By the same token I've been the "backup guy" for girlfriends before too lol fine by me. But not for everyone
/r/seduction03/03/22 11:47 AM
1

respect your own time, respect their time. just be honest and cancel the date. dont waste everyones time
/r/seduction03/03/22 11:18 AM
0

stinging comeback, you proved me wrong about your lack of social skills with that one
/r/seduction03/03/22 10:51 AM
1

that's still assault. and if you don't know how to ask in a way that turns her on then you have no game.
/r/seduction03/03/22 10:12 AM
1

did you read the wiki? there are tons of free resources online but our own wiki is a good jumping off point
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:52 AM
0

sexual assault is such a turnoff and shows you're a loser
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:51 AM
5

i dont know if this will be helpful, but i had 2 phases. i started game when i was 22. i was so shy around girls i'd stutter. it was a nightmare. but within about 6 months i was regularly pulling girls. then i got into a relationship and didnt really actively game again for like 8 years. now at 33 i'm getting back into it and having more luck than ever. so you're def not too old.
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:24 AM
0

no, always ask for consent. but dont be afraid to try again next date. unless she's specifically expressed zero romantic interest. in which case you have to also be honest about your own intentions. maybe shes not worth being 'just friends ' with i've def had women decline a kiss on date 1 and then slept with them on date 2. just maintain frame and confidence and keep playing the game.
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:21 AM
1

just handle it the same as any escalation. build attraction, build intimacy, ask for consent. personally i am very cuddly with a lot of my friends, and i have several FWBs, and one thing that works for me is to escalate slowly from cuddling to perhaps a massage to sex. doesn't always work. some girls will be down for a massage and thats it, or cuddling and thats it, or nothing at all. i don't know that there are any rules for escalating to FWBs specifically, but that works for me anyways. but i'…
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:19 AM
1

i'd say always escalate ASAP if possible. aks for a kiss, ask her to come to your place, ask her to invite you to her place. if she says no then show her you are unfazed. show her you know it'll happen inevitably. handling rejection coolly can be a big turn-on. make her want to change her mind and then try again next time.
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:15 AM
1

wait for the right opportunity, the same kind of situation when you'd normally escalate with a girl, and then just ask her. she might say no, but oh well.
/r/seduction03/03/22 09:13 AM
0

just be yourself. go with your gut. different women like different things. im high engagement, thats my personality. some women hate that. some women love it. better to get rid of the ones that dont like it early. gives me more time to meet and build connections with the women who do appreciate my energy
/r/seduction03/03/22 05:32 AM
2

being unique is a huge draw by itself but its also spiritually most fulfilling and spiritual fulfillment will bring you confidence and happiness which will also increase your success with women and in life
/r/seduction03/03/22 05:31 AM
1

Go say hello. Introduce yourself. Stop overthinking
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:17 AM
1

I knew a shitty link would be attached to this lol clickbait trash
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:16 AM
0

Both
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:16 AM
1

Women dont. Insecure women do. Just like insecure men do
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:15 AM
3

Just ask them.
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:15 AM
1

You're over thinking this. Just make the approach.
/r/seduction03/03/22 03:13 AM
1

Its a sign of respecting someones space
/r/seduction02/03/22 11:13 PM
1

Newsflash; you should absolutely ask for consent before a hug.
/r/seduction02/03/22 10:06 PM
1

And you should still ask consent first. Dont be a goof
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:45 PM
1

If there's no consent before then its assault yes. There is no such thing as implied consent
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:36 PM
1

Getting sexually assaulted is a turn on ? Piss off
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:15 PM
-1

if you know what the word means its a thing. its not a very meaningful thing, as you point out, but its still a concept.
/r/seduction02/03/22 10:33 AM
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its a common phrase. its not meant to be taken literally. if you want to say its misandrystic fine, but misogyny and misandry are not on the same level.
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:50 AM
2

see again; internalized misogyny
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:49 AM
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nothing wrong with having a small dick, its 'small dick energy' thats not good. you know 'big dick energy' doesnt literally mean you have a big dick either right?
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:43 AM
5

internalized misogyny isnt the argument you seem to think it is if you wana talk 'preferences' in a gender neutral way thats cool, but thats not what the OP was doing
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:42 AM
5

You're using language like "hoes" to perpetuate this sick double standard. Every right you enjoy should also be enjoyed by women, shame free. You're treating them like a lesser species
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:32 AM
0

What kind of man is going to try to treat women like some kind of inferior species with made-up rules for how they can behave compared to men ? You're gross
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:31 AM
2

You're disgusting. Women are people too, did you know that?
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:30 AM
-6

when your 'opinion' is bigotry then you are not entitled to that 'opinion'. hate against women is just as wrong as hate against any race or religion or other kind of minority
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:09 AM
12

yeah. they should have the same agency as any man. the right to choose, to have fun, to live their lives.
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:05 AM
2

i feel a huge issue on this sub is lack of structure and context. a lot of advice can be great at one stage, but horrible in another stage. and if you dont know the structure and WHERE to use which technique then your overall game will be weak. a lot of people overthink little meaningless things. and yeah they need to get back to basics. and basics means structure. build attraction, signal intent, build intimacy, escalate. it's not hard. but if you dont start with the structure you can get lost …
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:04 AM
2

and against women. especially women who have sexual agency.
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:01 AM
-12

ah yes body shaming. pro move. lol if i wanted to 'get laid of whatever i could get my hands on' then i'd be acting like you and trying to bring a bunch of shame and guilt and manipulation to the party. be secure in yourself and unafraid of competition and you'll do a lot better. regardless of what you look like
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:00 AM
1

im not sure you understand what slut shaming is. there is no bigotry against soccer
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:57 AM
1

youre overthinking this. ask her when she is free and schedule a date.
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:57 AM
1

did i not just post about this lol why do we have 5 posts with the same topic instead of actually just having the discussion in one post?
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:56 AM
-15

oh no does someone feel threatened by women actually having options and being allowed to own their own sexuality? afraid you cant compete?
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:54 AM
-18

if youre not insecure then you dont need social proof
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:53 AM
-28

AKA insecurity and low self esteem
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:44 AM
0

insecurity. they worry they wont measure up. small dick energy
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:43 AM
-10

If I see a girl has been sleeping around, I def don't want her to be part of my life. sounds like slut shaming to me
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:41 AM
1

not if youre well groomed no.
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:38 AM
1

i get about half of my contacts via OLD. ive never had any issues. i just dont see the need for 'text game'. show her you're not a creep? yes. but that takes minimal time. very quickly you should have her number and be scheduling a date or at least a phone/video call to build attraction where you can use more tools (if shes hesitant to meet up right away)
/r/seduction02/03/22 07:23 AM
1

you cant make anyone do anything. all you can do is remove yourself from toxic time wasters like this
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:54 AM
-19

insecurity. they want to prove they are better than the other girl. and dont slut shame either. promiscuous women are just as valid as anyone else. you're just showing your own insecurity by slut shaming.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:45 AM
1

No. You dont need to do those things to build atttaction and intimacy. They help. But they're not needed
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:29 AM
1

Yes. I mean other aspects are important. But the numbers game is ultimately gonna be needed no matter what.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:27 AM
1

That's not confidence. Confidence is an attitude
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:26 AM
1

Depends on the girl
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:25 AM
1

Do not talk about work at all. Problem solved.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:24 AM
1

I get the same reaction, but that's 100% my intent. That's just how I like to game.
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:22 AM
1

Because they don't apply their intelligence to social skills
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:15 AM
1

I wont argue with that lol
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:13 AM
1

Just be yourself. Stop overthinking it. Are you happy with who you are ?
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:52 AM
1

You're overthinking it. What's your result ? If its working keep it up. If it's not working then worry
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:52 AM
1

One of my lady friends. Her technique; be hot as fuck lol
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:50 AM
1

Nah. They're defeatist. They could have game. Instead they have a pity party every day. It's their attitude that stops them
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:49 AM
1

Stamina
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:49 AM
1

Nah. Dont play games.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:48 AM
1

Yes
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:46 AM
1

Follow your passion Find their passion It's all about pathos
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:45 AM
0

Yep. I never ever touch anyone without their consent. And it has not hurt my game at all. Seduce them mentally and they'll be aching for you to touch them.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:45 AM
1

You're right
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:44 AM
1

No
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:43 AM
1

I dunno man all my friends are female and i dont have any issues
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:41 AM
1

Energy projection
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:40 AM
1

You're under the impression that wimps don't get girls ? Wimpy doesn't need to mean insecure and unconfident
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:39 AM
-1

Regardless of hints make sure you ask for consent first
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:38 AM
1

Just the creepy predators
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:37 AM
1

Not at work
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:14 AM
1

Hells yes
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:13 AM
1

Ask her
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:13 AM
1

Stop filtering yourself. Have some confidence. Saying the wrong thing is better than saying nothing.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:12 AM
2

It can, or it can blow up in your face. Best not to risk it.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:11 AM
2

She wasnt ready. No big deal. Ask again on date #2
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:48 PM
1

Ask for consent The key isnt getting physical, the key is building attraction so they want you to get physical.
/r/seduction27/02/22 09:19 AM
1

Do not attempt this over text. Texting is dry
/r/seduction27/02/22 09:18 AM
2

I generally have a good time. But i generally DO meet women lol
/r/seduction27/02/22 09:16 AM
4

Texting is super dry, dont rely on it. Rely on being interesting in person. Build pathos. Texting is very hard to build emotion with
/r/seduction26/02/22 07:21 PM
0

False
/r/seduction26/02/22 07:14 PM
0

No
/r/seduction26/02/22 10:36 AM
1

Depends on the lady
/r/seduction26/02/22 10:32 AM
1

It's not always natural. It's a skill. It can be learned. Apply yourself.
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:26 AM
1

Create your own success and you'll get over it really fast If you dont ; you need therapy
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:22 AM
2

My experience says it is the most effective method. Maybe you need to level up your game ?
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:10 AM
2

If you like him ; you make the approach
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:09 AM
3

Talk about her. People love to talk about themselves. You just need to gently probe to find what areas of her life she's truly passionate about. If shes not passionate; switch topics.
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:01 AM
2

The only perfect first date is one that leads to a second date How long was the date ? The most common problem I see is people linger too much. You need to leave then wanting more. First dates should be less than an hour if it's a first meeting (OLD contact )
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:00 AM
82

Dont use weird routines or openers lol Upgrade your social skills. There is no opener which will overcompensate for lack of basic skills
/r/seduction25/02/22 11:52 AM
88

Secret hidden technique ; become a fit, charming, well-dressed, successful person with a ton of self confidence and good morals.
/r/seduction25/02/22 11:27 AM
2

Yep. I mean I have good qualities. And I need to show them off. So in that sense I have certain things I need to do. But those qualities might not be assets to every partner. So by showing myself off I might be leaning into rejection, or i might be building attraction. It all depends on the girl. But if i dont show off my good qualities I'm certainly doomed. If i lie; I'm doomed. Rejection is part of the game. It removes time wasters from your life. Better to be rejected fast and move on to bett…
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:53 AM
22

Bro you need to step away from the gaming for a bit and live in the real world It's not about winning or losing, its about building a connection. Every woman is different. There is no magic technique. Just best practices to help you find the person best for you.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:47 AM
1

Some people like you to match energy, but some dont. You have no way of telling what they will prefer. So just be yourself I have a naturally very calm and laid back energy and it works fine. I get many compliments on it. But some people wont like it ; oh well. Those people aren't for me.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:46 AM
1

Imagine you take a girl on a bowling date; you bowl, you drink, you flirt, you pay. As you're leaving you realize it's either time to go home alone or it's time to go home together ; that's the moment to ask. You've had all night to build intimacy and attraction, now you see if its paid off.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:14 AM
1

When it's time to either go home or go to their place. The end of the date. Or, hopefully, the end of part 1 of the date
/r/seduction25/02/22 03:25 AM
2

You can do it my man. You deserve to be loved. And women want to love and be loved just like anyone else. Just have a positive mentality and put in some work. It is hard work sometimes. But its worthwhile.
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:36 AM
2

Shocking than an incel who hates women also hates NBs. Truly shocking. Usually incels are so well balanced and accepting lmfao you're a clown
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:30 AM
2

Just give yourself the benefit of the doubt Say "I will give it my honest best effort to be successful. I will stop saying 'no, I cant' and start saying 'maybe I can ' " Maybe can be a powerful word. If you actually give yourself a chance your success will surprise you
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:29 AM
1

Until you let go of these dumbass ideas you're never gonna succeed. You can have all the success you want. But not while holding onto this self hatred and hatred toward percieved slights by women and "society ". Let go of your entitlement and find some real confidence. Healthy self esteem not egotism
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:05 AM
-1

The incel invasion continues. This is like the 3rd sad incel post today.
/r/seduction24/02/22 07:00 AM
0

"Let's go back to your place " You're overthinking this 100%
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:44 AM
1

I need to go to law school then lol
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:54 PM
1

there is a wiki here too, but ive never really read it top to bottom. i agree the total process, big picture view, is important. it provides much needed context. because a lot of advice is useless if done in the wrong order, or without the proper setup, or follow-through, or context.
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:37 PM
0

false
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:34 PM
0

thats not true
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:33 PM
0

'the best guys at getting girls' do. not 'the best guys'. seduction is its own skill. it overlaps with other skills. but its also something you can invest in regardless of your other skills too
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:32 PM
1

when i got started in pickup i found several comprehensive step-by-step guides online. but that was like.... 2006 lol this sub generally has most of those tips, but all out of order and mixed with some outright bad (or incomplete) advice too. and lately a lot of non pickup posts have been sneaking past the mods as well.
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:30 PM
1

this sub is a great place to start. read theory. understand the methods and why they work. then go out and start making mistakes, finding solutions. see what works for you. if you have a law degree i'm sure you must know how to learn fast and acquire new knowledge. sometimes a good wingman can help too. see how others do things 'in the field'.
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:23 PM
2

i guarantee its easier to learn than open heart surgery. but how easy will depend on your existing social skills, and ability to learn (which in this arena often involves overcoming a lot of your own ego and entitlement).
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:19 PM
0

once you learn how to do it it'll really truly feel easy and effortless. you just need to actually apply yourself and learn. it'll be worth it. its just a skill like any other
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:12 PM
5

like most things, its really easy once you know how. just put in the work and you'll be sad you didn't try it earlier. pickup can change your life for sure
/r/seduction23/02/22 12:58 PM
1

You need to improve because you suck We choose to improve because self actualization is important to spiritual growth and development Your motives are petty and that's why you're stuck at the bottom of the dating pool Demanding women lower their standards is pathetic. Grow up. Be better
/r/seduction23/02/22 11:28 AM
1

We're not here to blame anyone This sub is all about self improvement and self reflection. Being better. Not blaming women and "society " and wallowing in self pity and hate like incels do Wana get laid ? Drop the entitlement. Work for it. It's easier than you think but only if you check your ego
/r/seduction23/02/22 11:14 AM
-18

Its not "society's fault " you cant get a date. Take some ownership and step up.
/r/seduction23/02/22 10:44 AM
-22

Incel trash
/r/seduction23/02/22 10:36 AM
10

All you can do is ask. Build attraction, wait for the best moment, and then ask. Use your best judgement. But if you dont ask it will never happen.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:04 AM
1

I'm not very handsome so in person is way better for me. But some sites are less looks focused and I have luck there. Never had luck on Tinder
/r/seduction23/02/22 07:29 AM
3

A lot of hard work and studying pickup. I used to write down jokes and rehearse them before parties. That's how bad I was with people. But eventually it got better as I learned which techniques worked for me and which didn't. The first time I tried night game I set my target at 10 approaches and was amazed that i got like 3 numbers. It was a huge confidence boost. not every night has been that good, but once you know how good it can be it really helps your confidence
/r/seduction23/02/22 07:27 AM
1

Women do not exist solely to be attractive
/r/seduction22/02/22 03:38 PM
13

"Can I take you out sometime? " If you only have one sentence that's all you can do.
/r/seduction22/02/22 12:22 PM
1

Choosing signal ?
/r/seduction21/02/22 11:56 PM
2

Dont use the sub for piracy, reddit will take down the whole sub
/r/seduction21/02/22 03:23 PM
2

Dont be a creep. Stay away from the young girls.
/r/seduction21/02/22 03:19 PM
2

True
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:53 PM
1

OLD works well for me. But not Tinder. You need a better connection unless you're handsome
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:47 PM
1

If you're handsome Tinder is fine. If not ; dont waste your time
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:46 PM
10

Choosing signals?
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:46 PM
2

Sure. An intelligent person would know why that's necessary. Kill your ego, expand your wisdom.
/r/seduction20/02/22 11:42 AM
1

In a pickup setting ?
/r/seduction20/02/22 09:07 AM
29

The vast majority of people, of any gender, give bad advice. Not on purpose. But because social skills come naturally to them, they cant articulate why they do what they do. So they end up parroting "common wisdom". Which is mostly wrong No one is trying to mislead you on purpose There is no "female conspiracy " . You sound like a neckbeard even suggesting that The real advice most people need to hear is ; upgrade your life, establish an emotional connection, be forward, and make lots of approac…
/r/seduction20/02/22 08:59 AM
1

If you dont like hookups then r/dating is probably better for you.
/r/seduction20/02/22 08:01 AM
1

If you're really intelligent then apply that intelligence and learn some social skills
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:33 AM
7

You can be calm but also interesting and engaging. Your issue isnt your energy it's your social skills and personality
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:20 AM
1

Big time they want the ego boost of proving themselves better than the other girls. It's a dominance thing
/r/seduction20/02/22 06:22 AM
0

Dont worry about being the Man just be yourself
/r/seduction20/02/22 06:19 AM
1

Just be yourself, forget that alpha BS
/r/seduction20/02/22 06:19 AM
4

English skills are important. But the accent doesnt matter. English accent, british accent, Australian accent, indian accent. Doesnt matter. As long as your English is on point it's fine
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:28 AM
2

You're halfway there then. Game is easier to learn than confidence
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:26 AM
3

If your goal is to have a superficial relationship then sure maybe present as generic But if your goal is to find true compatibility you need to be yourself The faster you get rid of time wasters who arent a true match for you the more time you free up to find your real partner who will love you for you
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:09 AM
1

Dont make ignorant comments about peoples race, especially once they've already told you where they're from
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:07 AM
2

I dont mean to bury myself, but at times I've had pretty shit boundaries, and its shocking how effective that can be for success in seduction
/r/seduction17/02/22 02:09 PM
2

Not enough info. Maybe he's great with people, maybe he has a huge social network, maybe he's super hot, maybe he has no standards or boundaries, maybe he hooks girls up with drugs, maybe he's super confident There's a lot more to game than the things you mentioned
/r/seduction17/02/22 01:23 PM
1

Build rapport, show intent, and escalate. I dont use push/pull, I just find it manipulative and unneeded. You have to set the tone for the relationship and push it in the direction you want. Just be honest with her, but make sure you have some rapport first. And escalate slowly from there Take her out. Make it clear it's a date. Ask for a kiss. See where it goes. Keep escalating, keep showing your intentions. The most important thing is to build the rapport first tho. Show her you're fun and sex…
/r/seduction17/02/22 01:01 PM
2

Make dates official. Otherwise you'll end up in the friend zone Dont bite off more than you can chew. If you cant entertain a crowd, dont try Set boundaries. Was it really the right timeframe to meet her friends ? Dont overstay your welcome. A short but good date is worlds better than a long date that fizzles out. Leave her wanting more
/r/seduction17/02/22 11:31 AM
1

I'm 33. My current girls are a mix of OLD and social networking . Mostly OLD. I was doing night game last summer to good success, but haven't been doing night game lately due to covid concerns. OLD is not my strong suit, but so far I'm having good luck this year.
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:54 AM
0

Dont use this sub for piracy or the whole sub will be taken down by reddit
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:37 AM
1

The whole sub is dedicated to that.
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:33 AM
1

Depends on the effort you put in. I had 2 dates on valentines day (1 for the afternoon and one for late night), and 1 already scheduled for this coming weekend. I also had 2 backup dates for vday, one cancelled on me due to covid, and 1 I bailed on because the other date seemed better. (There were also 2 backup afternoon dates but i dont take them very seriously so i dont know if I'd count them ) In the end my primary vday date wasnt worth sleeping with so I bailed on her lol But right now I'm n…
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:27 AM
3

Flirting is sensual, intimate, and/or sexual Simping is purely social. Driving them around, buying them things, giving them compliments and attention There is some overlap. Just try to practice keeping it sensual/intimate, not friendly/platonic
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:22 AM
1

Turn up the flirting. Keep escalating. Turn down the simping. You cannot have strong game if you're afraid of awkwardness and embarrassment.
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:51 AM
4

But what if he finds a weeb girl ? Wouldn't that be better than changing himself to fit in ? How is he supposed to find his true dreamgirl if he is living a lie and hiding who he is ?
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:50 AM
3

Yes. Because it will set you apart and help you find someone who truly appreciates you for you. Pretend to be generic and you'll be competing with everyone. Be yourself and no one can compete with you
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:48 AM
12

As an actual asexual I'm not sure how I feel about this lol but it does seem like most of your conclusions line up with mine yes
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:47 AM
1

Compared to what ? For me cold approach is the most efficient method for sure. But I'm not pretty enough to get a lot of Tinder matches. I have to rely on my personality
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:45 AM
7

It's a free market How do you stack up to the competition? You do realize there's a ton of competition right ? She can get another date in 5 minutes Most guys are average. But as soon as you start to be obviously above average your game will improve exponentially
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:43 AM
1

Insta is usually best. But Facebook or text work too. Whatever seems least threatening to her. You want to make it easy for her to say "yes". Insta is pretty low commitment
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:35 AM
1

Yep. Been doing pickup for 12 years. Still having good results. It doesnt really take long to get down. 6 months or a year and you'll be a pro.
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:33 AM
3

Depends on your style. I dont. I ask them out over social media. I dont want to be intimidating. I want my approaches to be calm, laid back, no pressure. Make then comfy. Make them laugh. Leave them thinking you're fun. Good vibes. Good energy. Then ask them out over social media. I usually default to very casual, but flirty, unless they ask if I want it to be a date then I say yes and start taking them more seriously
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:20 AM
4

"You look south American "? Buried yourself with that one
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:18 AM
3

This whole sub is dedicated to those tips Start with "hello". Approach who you're interested in. Break the ice. Build rapport. then ask for her contacts
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:17 AM
9

4? That's your sample size ? Step up. Try 40 and see how you do then
/r/seduction17/02/22 09:15 AM
1

You call this a simple answer ? Pickup works because it's about improving your "product" and your "sales pitch" and because there are lots of "buyers " on the market who want your product. You just have to let them know about it in a polite and informative way
/r/seduction17/02/22 07:51 AM
2

I'm over 30, but most of my dates aren't, so yes. They're going on dates, at least with me
/r/seduction17/02/22 07:49 AM
1

They dont
/r/seduction16/02/22 10:49 AM
1

Same thing everyone else does, itll just be harder.
/r/seduction16/02/22 10:47 AM
2

Dont be incremental. Be honest from day 1. Not by confessing your feelings like a geek, but by signaling your intent the same way you would to any other woman you wanted. Dont pretend you want to be friends if that's not what you want.
/r/seduction16/02/22 10:46 AM
3

Yes
/r/seduction16/02/22 10:44 AM
14

That's true. I lost 40lbs and got a new wardrobe and suddenly game was like playing on easy mode. I always had luck before. But now it's so much better it's crazy I'd really bought into the "inner beauty " thing. But unfortunately it's only half true. Game is possible when your present tation is off. But its exponentially harder
/r/seduction16/02/22 10:43 AM
1

No
/r/seduction16/02/22 02:49 AM
0

You cant determine who will be intimidated. Most women have been sexually assaulted before. Most women have had to deal with men who show them no respect before. They dont know you. They dont know how you will react to rejection. It's scary for them. Do not corner them. Be respectful.
/r/seduction16/02/22 02:49 AM
1

Captive audience If they feel unsafe they have nowhere to go.
/r/seduction16/02/22 02:47 AM
1

Exactly
/r/seduction16/02/22 02:46 AM
205

As long as they're not at work, on the gym, or on the bus then yes. They need to be able to bail. Its rude to corner someone. Its intimidating and rude. But basically anywhere else is fair game.
/r/seduction15/02/22 06:00 PM
3

Always be prepared. I had a "very shy" girl sneak into my bed once
/r/seduction13/02/22 09:41 PM
2

Attractive to who ? It may shock you to learn different women like different things. Just be yourself. You'll find your audience. But be the best version of yourself
/r/seduction13/02/22 08:13 AM
2

No. But you still need charm and style too. Your appearance and approach get you in the door. Then being smart and witty come into play. But you need to have a good approach first
/r/seduction13/02/22 07:18 AM
1

I'm 33, I still have good luck with night game. If you're "just sone random dude " then you're missing the point if game tho If you dont like night game ; dont do it. Game can be applied anywhere at any time
/r/seduction13/02/22 07:06 AM
6

That's true. Do in person approaches instead
/r/seduction13/02/22 07:04 AM
0

Texting should be used only to set up in person dates. Dating is all about pathos and texts dont convey much. If you absolutely cant get together in person do a video call or phone call to build pathos instead.
/r/seduction12/02/22 10:28 AM
1

Neither
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:53 AM
1

"If Corona doesnt take you out, can I?"
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:52 AM
2

"I really love your vibe " is less superficial, but still personal and complimentary. It's been my go to for a while now
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:50 AM
1

For me it took a three or four weekends to start to really learn. Making about 40 approaches per weekend, night game. But once you start learning it comes really fast. After two months of steady work I was really feeling comfortable. That's like 300 approaches.
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:49 AM
5

Because you dont understand why someone would not like to be with a person who tries to rationalize everything "Life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experienced "
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:51 PM
6

Being emotionally repressed doesnt make you rational
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:48 PM
0

There are tons of other forums for dating posts. This is the biggest dedicated pickup sub. We need to stay on focus. When I joined here the mods would remove anything not directly pickup related, and the content was much better for it
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:54 AM
0

Its not the same umbrella. Dating posts just further water down this sub.
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:53 AM
4

This isnt a dating subreddit. The toughest decision for me in regards to pickup was whether to sleep with a married woman or not. I mean she'd cheat either way. But I decided I didn't want to be part of it.
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:41 AM
1

That's sometimes true. But if you're studying game and experimenting then you'll eventually be where you want to be If you have style you will eventually find your audience, if you are actually making approaches. If you're not making approaches all the style in the world wont help you You need both.
/r/seduction10/02/22 09:13 AM
2

Exactly. I can use the same approach on two different woman and one will love it 10/10 while the other woman will think I am the weirdest creep to ever breathe. Just keep making approaches and refining your style and being unafraid to make mistakes and be unafraid to get a bad reaction.
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:11 AM
2

use the search bar to find old posts on those topics then. there's a wealth of info here. the thing is ; you have to find your own style. we're all unique people and while watching others can help, it wont help as much as understanding *why* techniques work (or fail) and it also cant replace firsthand experience. go and start making approaches. take notes. experiment (once you've done your basic research)
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:31 AM
2

if you want more ; ask on the main page
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:28 AM
2

physical escalation; ask for consent before you touch anyone. physical touch is a side effect of all of your other skills. if your core skills are strong it comes naturally and easily. flirting is all about energy projection. show her confidence, show an abundance mindset, dont take her (or yourself) too seriously. be funny, be fun, make her want you to take her seriously. what you say doesnt really matter, its all about the right attitude
/r/seduction10/02/22 03:23 AM
1

There are always ways to improve your game without compromising your values. It's a bit harder as an introvert but still very possible
/r/seduction10/02/22 02:49 AM
4

This entire sub is dedicated to that you waffle The entire sub cannot be summed up in one comment
/r/seduction10/02/22 02:48 AM
3

Luck is preparation meeting opportunity If you're not prepared it's never gonna happen. Being prepared means knowing how to conduct yourself around women
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:38 AM
1

So you know what you need to work on; so go work on it
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:37 AM
9

It's all about learning the game. It doesn't happen overnight but it can happen for anyone willing to put in the work
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:26 AM
6

It's happened many times. At bars, at parties, bias dating apps. Its not one thing it's all aspects of game. Be confident, be the life if the party, be high value, project good energy. Make them want to keep having fun with you, make it a good time.
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:26 AM
14

I'm not good looking, its happened to me.
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:18 AM
1

Yep. I've had a lot of shocking (but good ) situations arise over the years.
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:17 AM
2

How many women do you need exactly ? I wear a leather jacket, skinny jeans, and motorcycle boots. I like alt/ goth/ punk girls with hair dye, tattoos, and piercings. Most women dont like me. I'm not looking for most women. I'm being myself. I'm finding "my audience ". Its fine. I have no lack of dates. You are not a lone unique mutant creature. There will be people who dig your vibe. But you have to actually be confident in presenting your authentic self
/r/seduction10/02/22 12:35 AM
1

No
/r/seduction08/02/22 10:06 PM
1

Very true. I recently made a post about how once you learn what lines work for you you can keep using them for decades. All the comments were asking for the lines specifically . Those lines work for me, they likely wont for you you need to master the basics so you can develop your own lines and routines. More downvotes followed lol. There is no magic pickup line guys ! Learn the basics and you wont need someone else's lines. You can make your own which are better. Because it's all about your own…
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:56 PM
2

You can be a feminist and still have game. The two are not opposed. You're right tho that the group has lost its focus
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:50 PM
1

Lots of success from years back. Although I feel generally the quality of posts here has dropped. A lot of posts should be removed because they're more about dating and relationships than pickup and game.
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:48 PM
1

Keep practicing
/r/seduction08/02/22 11:15 AM
5

last time i was out i saw a girl with dolphin leggings 'i love your leggings, dolphins are so cool' and it led into a long conversation about dolphins lol apparently she is borderline obsessed and has been swimming with them before. previous to that there was a woman with camo leggings. i told her i liked her leggings and asked if she found they attracted a lot of male attention. she said no. i then told her about a time when a girl picked me up because we happened to be wearing an identical cam…
/r/seduction05/02/22 12:25 AM
2

be honest and forward about your intentions dont lie or play games
/r/seduction05/02/22 12:19 AM
4

anywhere in the civilized world except the USA :P its the law now
/r/seduction05/02/22 12:09 AM
5

got to my dude. find something to genuinely compliment about them. if you cant; just tell them you really dig their vibe or their style in general. but finding honest compliments is a vital skill. their face doesnt matter. its a gift from god. their style is something unique. they will appreciate those compliments more. because its complimenting their real choices and efforts
/r/seduction05/02/22 12:09 AM
1

same exact way as anyone else. its just harder. i did lose 40lbs recently and it was amazing how much it improved my game tho. sadly people really are shallow. im still chubby, but it does inspire me to lose more weight too
/r/seduction04/02/22 11:56 PM
2

im not a fuckboi, but most of my friends are female. and they are DTF with a fuckboi. when theyre in the mood for that vibe. just be yourself and try to find people who appreciate that. if youre a fuckboi; own it. be the best fuckboi you can be
/r/seduction04/02/22 11:53 PM
0

i usually make them pay, but it doesnt really matter. read the situation at hand and act accordingly
/r/seduction04/02/22 11:48 PM
6

fake it till you make it. worked for me
/r/seduction04/02/22 11:46 PM
0

Wrong. How are you this unaware ?
/r/seduction03/02/22 08:28 PM
0

Spoken like a true predator
/r/seduction03/02/22 08:27 PM
-4

Go talk to some rape survivors and maybe you'll change your mind about consent asshole Unwanted kissing is sexual assault
/r/seduction03/02/22 04:02 PM
-2

That's sexual assault. By definition. I hope you find yourself in their shoes some day with some creep forcing a kiss on you and not taking a clue
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:58 PM
-5

Going on a date does not equal giving consent Just because you have no standards doesn't mean no one else does. You dont get to make those decisions for other people.
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:55 PM
-12

You don't get to make those decisions for anyone else. You're not psychic. Ask for consent When your sexual assault lands you in jail you're gonna find out how it feels to be touched without consent. And you'll deserve it Dont do anything to a woman you wouldn't want a gay man to do to you
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:48 PM
-13

Youre not advocating rapes just sexual assault. Got it. Hope you end up in jail jackass
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:44 PM
-6

"Ask your mom?" That's your source ? This isnt your mommas world anymore. Why don't you ask your mum if shes ever been kissed against her will. That's sexual assault. People these days dont have to endure assault like that. The world is better for it. I'm bi. You want me to kiss you without your consent ?
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:16 PM
-7

If you think they'll be turned off by asking then you're the only one turned on in the first place
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:09 PM
-23

Ask for consent And stop spamming shit videos
/r/seduction03/02/22 01:33 PM
7

How many approaches have you made ?
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:37 PM
1

Sure. Like I said it's a baseline. Personally my ratio has never been as low as 10%. But for some it may start off as being higher. It's still worth tracking so you can see your improvement over time and motivate yourself to keep grinding and do better
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:22 AM
3

10 approaches gets 1 number 10 numbers gets 1 date 8 hours into dating (2 or 3 dates) and you get laid Those are rookie guidelines for people with weak game. A good starting point. As you get better itll drop and get easier. When I go to the bar my goal is 20 approaches. Maybe 10 if it's not a busy night
/r/seduction01/02/22 11:37 PM
7

That's not true. Being polite is simply the bare minimum. You need to bring more than politeness. You dont get rewarded for the bare minimum. You get rewarded when you bring that and then more as well
/r/seduction01/02/22 03:49 PM
3

the key to a compliment is to compliment them on something they are proud of and have put effort into. notice their effort, notice their unique qualities. and do not spam shitty youtube videos.
/r/seduction01/02/22 01:51 PM
2

Met at the bar and joined their group. One for shooting pool, and one just for drinking.
/r/seduction29/01/22 01:23 PM
3

Just did my usual. Was out of town so after the bar closed I suggested we get a hotel and keep the party going. Worked great The other time was actually identical. Maybe the hotel was key ? Maybe because it was a resort town? Hard to say. I'd put it down to luck
/r/seduction29/01/22 03:41 AM
20

very possible. ive done it. but its pure luck.
/r/seduction29/01/22 03:22 AM
-6

You dont need attraction to enjoy sex, orgasms are nice for everyone And Game can improve your life even without that. Investing in your social skills is always a win
/r/seduction28/01/22 09:35 PM
-21

*laughs in asexual*
/r/seduction28/01/22 09:31 PM
2

lost 40lbs and now its like playing on 'easy mode'
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:27 AM
1

not really. you dont know till you try. ive been rejected by girls i thought were a sure thing, and ive hooked up with women who i thought i didnt have a chance with. it really depends on the individual girl. thats why you need to make lots of approaches.
/r/seduction25/01/22 07:27 PM
-1

Ask for consent
/r/seduction23/01/22 11:26 PM
2

Hence why you dont appreciate the coffee date lol
/r/seduction22/01/22 11:00 PM
1

Shy guys def have a handicap. Perhaps someone else has better advice than myself for that one.
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:41 PM
2

I'd be wary about extending. Leave them wanting more.
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:40 PM
1

That works if you know what she looks like and have some basic chemistry. But for OLD the coffee date is used to establish those things You wana do an activity with someone who doesnt even look like their profile picture ?
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:40 PM
0

So why are you on a seduction sub ? Lol
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:15 PM
1

You're not wrong
/r/seduction22/01/22 07:13 PM
1

You have to be better than your environment. But if it's a serious problem find a nicer cafe, or get a fancy Irish coffee in a nicer restaraunt. Maybe with a desert. Or take the coffee to go and go for a walk in the park or downtown. Whatever suits your vibe best But in the end I think good game can overcome a bad environment too.
/r/seduction22/01/22 07:05 PM
5

If they feel like interviews you need to work on your skills. Build pathos. Forget logos. Forget it. Focus only on emotion, projection, and framing. Forget everything else.
/r/seduction22/01/22 06:44 PM
4

Ideal first date. Scope them out. Give them a taste. Leave then wanting more. No more than an hour ! It's like an audition for a real date.
/r/seduction22/01/22 06:43 PM
-5

Motivation
/r/seduction22/01/22 06:41 PM
1

I've never really tried day game. But night game and OLD. The principles are all basically the same though.
/r/seduction22/01/22 06:28 PM
1

All stuff i learned here and on other forums. The info is out there for free :) just gotta find it. And gotta practise it to see what works for you and what doesnt.
/r/seduction22/01/22 11:25 AM
3

Traditionally I'm really straight forward too. But I've had some luck lately with women i wasnt pursuing who decided to pursue me instead. I dont knowing that's due to my unconsciously still using some game techniques, or if its them just trying to 'steal me' from my female friends who they thought i was dating or what. But it's been a big ego boost for sure. Of course maybe the weight loss and recent wardrobe upgrade were factors too. Anyways my default is ; be straightforward. And leave the do…
/r/seduction22/01/22 11:21 AM
2

True true. All love my friend.
/r/seduction22/01/22 11:12 AM
7

That's probably true. But i def still need to slim down lol I lost 40lbs and my game just exploded. I need to lose 40 more and I'll be the new casanova lol
/r/seduction22/01/22 11:03 AM
-1

For sure. I look very manly unfortunately lol looks are my worst category IMO
/r/seduction22/01/22 11:01 AM
2

Bingo. Same here. I'm legit pretty queer lol it's not an intentional "strategy " but it has good synergy with game for me. And sometimes it's not even on my end. Some women just want to seduce the queer person lol its like a challenge for them
/r/seduction22/01/22 10:59 AM
-2

I love Brand. I think he has all the elements of game, but he learned then in a very different way from how we do. I think he's a good example of how game does not have to be masculine. I'm not very masculine either. I'm often mistaken for gay. But I can still score. It's all about confidence, rapport, attraction, and escalation. With nice dashes of humour and mystery. Brand has all the tools in my opinion. A great example. If only for contrast. Even if his style is not your style i think you ca…
/r/seduction22/01/22 10:55 AM
-8

I think that's a fundamental for sure. Being playful and being mysterious. Making her curious to know what you really think. Not taking her, or yourself, super seriously. Making her wonder if you're joking. It's like mental foreplay. Tease her. Make her want it.
/r/seduction22/01/22 10:27 AM
-103

The specific lines dont matter. What works for me might not for you. Cause we have different skills and different "products " we're selling. But the fundamentals of game stay the same. Signal intent, build attraction, escalate. We all have to find our own ways to use those fundamentals to construct routines that work for us. Good habits we can have success with and keep building on. For me specifically it's about poetry. Using poetry to provoke an emotional response, to build rapport and respect…
/r/seduction22/01/22 10:15 AM
2

It really depends on your personalities and relationships. For me; ; yes. I actually sent my crush flowers last year for valentines day. And we hooked up shortly after But that's not gonna work for everyone. It depends on your execution.
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:40 AM
1

Never had sex and romance as a teen, but as an adult its pretty great.
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:38 AM
5

Whatever you like. Be yourself. I wear 8 rings, 2 bracelets, and a pendant. Skulls, pentagrams, demons, spikes. That's just my style. I like it. And it attracts the kind of girls who like my style. Goth, punk, alt girls. Perfect for me. But you do you. If you like hip hop wear baggy jeans, if you like country wear cowboy boots. Do what you think is cool. Pick a style icon perhaps and copy their look.
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:35 AM
51

Once you actually get with a few you'll calm right down Remember; they're horny too. All you have to do is make sure you're the best option. You dont have to be perfect. Just perfect for the moment
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:29 AM
1

It takes practice. Go on some dates and see what works for you. Personally I err on the side of being nice because indont mind just becoming friends. But I also sleep with a lot of my friends lol Everyone is gonna be different depending on their goals and their strengths and preferences
/r/seduction20/01/22 01:06 PM
2

Just be yourself For me that means going slow. Start with body language and a few compliments. Escalate to sex talk and light touching. And make sure you build emotional attraction as you escalate. If we're on a date I know I can take my time so that when the date is ending it's clear to both of us if we want to split or go home together. You're still gonna have mismatches, but oh well. Better to identify them early so you waste less of your time The exact same techniques can result in a great d…
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:47 AM
2

I'm only that wholesome over text. I just find texting is too awkward to be sexy. In person it's easier, I can use my tone and body language a lot more.
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:35 AM
1

That's a pretty good skill. But never stop learning new skills.
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:25 AM
1

That's me lol
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:22 AM
1

It means they should be pursuing you, not the other way around
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:22 AM
0

Ugh. Why would you want to ?
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:08 AM
1

You're comparing apples to oranges. Its not a competition.
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:04 AM
1

As soon as you're afraid of looking weird youve already lost Confidence is key
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:58 AM
1

Dont compete. Be yourself. Find your audience.
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:55 AM
1

Yes. Build trust, and make her want to fuck you. "Worth getting to know" can be good if you're trying to be romantic or friendly, but it can be a barrier if you just want to get laid. Not always, but sometimes. Girls will fuck guys they don't like. Its no pressure. Harmless fun. But if they like you they might hold off if they think it might lead somewhere. So gauge your audience as best you can. And be honest in your intentions
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:54 AM
1

Phone calls can be okay, but in person is indeed superior, and text is indeed worst
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:40 AM
4

It's not about balance It's about selling yourself And reading your audience I'm 100% wholesome. That's just me. And for me it works. But you can be 100% sexual and that can also work. You just need to find your best audience. But if they clearly initiate something sexy, or wholesome, then read the room and go with it. To the best of your ability
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:39 AM
2

Theyre not bad tips, but there is no prerequisite for game You can start any time, anywhere. There is no order, no checklist. Self improvement? YES. Please improve yourself. But don't let others define what that means. And dont let a perfectionist mindset stop you from getting laid TODAY
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:37 AM
2

Dates aren't the time for silly games. They're times to build attraction so when you escalate later you can score
/r/seduction20/01/22 07:33 AM
-1

I'm nonbinary and I have no problems getting women :P Be yourself and you'll find 100% of the people into you Be someone else and you'll never find one person who likes the real you. Even the best frame is gonna slip sometimes. So its better to be real. There is no derth of women out there. There are tons. You dont need to target "most". You're already targeting more than you have time for
/r/seduction17/01/22 06:27 PM
8

You dont need to be manly or masculine to get women. You need to project energy, build attraction, and find the women who want you for you. That means game. That means not wasting your time with lies and gimmicks. Sift the wheat from the chaff stop playing games and play to win. Pick a frame you can actually hold. A genuine frame
/r/seduction17/01/22 05:15 PM
6

Just be yourself. But be the best version of yourself. The most interesting version. And most of all; learn to project energy. Learn to frame. Learn to build attraction. None of that requires being a bad boy. None of it means stop being yourself
/r/seduction17/01/22 05:13 PM
1

25%
/r/seduction13/01/22 06:58 AM
10

Yep. At 22 I found pickup and it really changed my life
/r/seduction22/04/21 08:48 PM
3

those are basically the same question. its not about what you say tho, its about how you say it, and when
/r/seduction16/04/21 12:22 AM
2

it can be, depending on the execution. a lot of seduction just boils down to execution. i have def. done shit that, on paper, makes no sense, but in the right place and at the right time you can make it work for you.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:28 AM
3

Some do. Some dont. Just ask consent first and it's all good
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:32 AM
6

I'm not usually a fan of the 'alpha Male vs beta Male ' thing. But this is beta behaviour. Be confident, be self assured, have an opinion state it, stand by it. Dont argue with people, but dont be afraid to agree to disagree. People pleasing shows a huge lack of confidence and it's not sexy
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:32 AM
1

If you're bugging her she'll tell you
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:30 AM
1

Yes
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:29 AM
4

never think of it as a direct competition. its not. its not apples to apples. its apples to oranges. youre not trying to see who is better overall. youre trying to see who is a better fit for her. who is more compatible for her. some people like chocolate icecream, some like vanilla, some like sherbert best. just because she picked chocolate doesnt mean youre not a good dessert. it just means you two werent meant to be. when it is meant to be; there is never competition. it wont matter. and so m…
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:24 AM
2

I'm a primary character; the villain lol
/r/seduction26/03/21 06:59 PM
2

ambition ie continual self improvement
/r/seduction18/03/21 02:06 AM
1

this is 'learning by subtraction' and as such it isnt helpful. never focus on what not to do. only focus on what to do.
/r/seduction15/03/21 02:36 AM
2

what does this have to do with seduction?
/r/seduction15/03/21 02:31 AM
2

75% nonsense for sure
/r/seduction15/03/21 02:30 AM
2

you're right about the paradigm being different, but i dont think you're right about women lying on purpose. 95% of my friends are women , we're 'bros' , we talk about everything. they do give pretty bad dating advice but im 100% sure its not on purpose. its just that, as you said, they experience things differently. for me what really worked was (as you said) losing weight and upgrading my style. which for women, likely doesnt fall under the realm of 'dating advice'. its just 'life advice' for …
/r/seduction15/03/21 02:29 AM
2

Ms. this is a Wendy's
/r/seduction09/03/21 07:59 PM
2

i pop in and out. but yes the first time you 'get it' you lose a certain amount of your need to be here
/r/seduction02/03/21 09:23 AM
3

generally speaking; charm but in your specific example it could be any number of things; body language, facial expression, a nice outfit vs a bad one, or even just looking more bloated one day vs more lean another day (water weight making you look puffy)
/r/seduction02/03/21 09:22 AM
1

stop being so superficial. i look like shit but i still get girls. appearance is only a small part of game.
/r/seduction01/03/21 02:55 PM
0

its different because women have rights here and can leave abusive situations and they arent pressured into getting married when thye hit 18. Guys here actually have to invest in themselves they dont just get handed a women.
/r/seduction01/03/21 12:05 PM
2

Yeah pretty bad social skill. Super shy, awkward, nervous, and i stuttered badly. But learning pickup helped a lot. I met my friend at a party. Fortunately i had just enough social worth that i could show up at big parties and not get thrown out lol I didn't have any friends until the girl i met at the party, i was 22 then. But she introduced me to a lot of people and it worked out. Eventually we stopped talking because i wanted to date her, but fortunately by then i was out of my first depressi…
/r/seduction28/02/21 12:20 AM
2

I mean most people have phases of depression. Eslecially when it's due to circumstances rather than a chemical imbalance. For me leaving high school was the worst. High school sucked. But life right after was worse due to utter loneliness and lack of human interaction. But I did eventually make friends and things got better.
/r/seduction28/02/21 12:11 AM
3

Once you get over your first depression you realize it's temporary. It will pass. The first one is the scariest because you don't know that I've certainly had a few mebtal health issues due to my circumstances. But I'm in therapy now and the future is looking bright. Sometimes it's just about surviving. And if you do then one day you'll thrive
/r/seduction28/02/21 12:03 AM
-1

if you want dating advice do to r/dating_advice we ARE here to get laid. which can still be the start of a relationship, but doesnt have to be.
/r/seduction27/02/21 07:00 AM
10

dunno what qualifies as a 'late bloomer' per se but at 22 i was a friendless virgin. game changed my whole life. lived the high life for years with lots of friends and girls. eventually a series of mishaps left me homeless and i had to rebuild my life from scratch, but now at 32 im again in a position to game. and after 5 years of being single and celibate its really amazing to be back into the party. i feel like at 32 im in a way just blooming now, and im having more fun than i did when i was 2…
/r/seduction27/02/21 06:43 AM
1

I've received lots of pics before. But my question remains. I'm willing to be wrong but can someone explain why they disagree ?
/r/seduction26/02/21 05:47 PM
6

I would suggest being more ambiguous in the future then. Perhaps just making it clear that you mean. 'I want a relationship with someone in the future, and i hope it could be you.' Once you tell her you're ready to commit to her you're subconciously forcing her to decide if she wants to commit to you or not. dont force it. build rapport, attraction, and sexual tension. make her feel good, keep her having fun. then see if she's really worth committing to or not.
/r/seduction26/02/21 01:08 PM
1

great article thanks for sharing :)
/r/seduction26/02/21 01:01 PM
10

and how does that help escalate your seduction? good results or bad?
/r/seduction26/02/21 12:58 PM
-74

why give her validation when all you have is a picture? make her work harder for your validation. let her know she wont get it till you get her, not just her photo
/r/seduction26/02/21 12:56 PM
22

Doesnt matter. Focus on your goal and keep driving towards it. But if you cant meet up soon; why are you wasting your time with them? Find someone you can meet up with soon.
/r/seduction26/02/21 09:54 AM
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for me i always focus on seeing her. i tell her its a big tease to send me pictures but i want the real thing.
/r/seduction26/02/21 09:49 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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