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I'm okay with it if it's general population in a men's prison.
/r/PussyPass28/04/17 11:54 PM
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psychopath!
/r/seduction06/02/17 07:49 PM
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It's happened to me more than once. There's no way to tell ahead of time, but I never recommend dinner for the first date for this reason. I usually suggest coffee or a drink, and I always limit the time ahead of time to one hour. If the date isn't going well enough, I can just bail with a preplanned excuse. It also gives her the option to do the same. If it's going really well, "my friend cancelled", so the evening opens up for us.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/01/17 11:39 PM
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First time I'm seeing it.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/12/16 01:29 PM
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This is the entire point of "seduction" in a nutshell. It's not about tricks, it's about being the best version of you possible.
/r/seduction03/12/16 06:42 PM
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How about 30 voicemails, 20 text messages, and 60 missed calls over a 1-hour period? Oh, and we had just met earlier that day. I'd take Ryan Pants girl any day over this one.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/16 12:03 AM
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Why do I read that in a redneck accent?
/r/seduction18/08/16 11:14 AM
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"This beer? This isn't mine. I'm just holding it."
/r/PussyPassDenied08/08/16 11:30 PM
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As someone involved in hiring programmers, we definitely want qualified programmers -- regardless of gender.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/06/16 01:36 PM
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TLDR: be the best version of yourself that you can be, consistently.
/r/seduction30/06/16 01:11 PM
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Lunch is actually bonding time via conversation, otherwise you need to be out walking with her, or cab hopping from place to place -- take her slightly out of her comfort zone, make it memorable.
/r/seduction27/05/16 08:53 PM
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Yet another news article about a video without a link to said video.
/r/PussyPass05/05/16 08:38 PM
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fake stank
/r/PussyPass21/04/16 11:32 PM
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You're flat out wrong. Results trump theory. It works for getting laid. Is it an "optimal" method designed to appeal to all women? No, it's a specific technique which is successful in attracting certain types of women.
/r/seduction18/03/16 06:25 PM
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This happens often with a chinese girl I see occasionally. "Hey Ming, what's up?" "Good, thank you."
/r/seduction18/03/16 06:12 PM
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So?
/r/seduction18/03/16 06:10 PM
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Whatever. You can spout all you like, but if it fucking works, it works. For hundreds of years now, "cocky funny" has worked for its intended purpose.
/r/seduction18/03/16 06:10 PM
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You have to keep it simple. "Hey, you're fun to chat with. We should meet up for coffee/drinks tomorrow, I'm free after 5. Here's my number: "
/r/seduction22/02/16 02:51 PM
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This happened to me recently. Was at a casual acquaintance's house for a party. There was a woman there that I've seen a few times, and know her through other people. We had made eye contact at previous times we met, but never spoke. This time I caught her gaze and held for a second, smiled, and walked up to her and introduced myself. She was stammering at first, and not making a lot of sense -- I casually put my hand on the back of her upper arm: it's a subtle control move, but it's also very r…
/r/seduction15/02/16 03:32 PM
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The definition has become so distorted that a woman can be having sex with an unconscious man and withdraw her consent during the act -- and he still gets charged with rape.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/02/16 01:03 PM
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hoverboard
/r/PussyPass01/01/16 04:16 PM
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Why not both? Seriously, there's no reason not to day game and social dating app too. My best sex partners have always been day gamers, partly because they see me as more committed -- a comment I ofter hear from Tinder girls is something like "is that what you say to all the girls?" projecting their insecurities, etc.
/r/seduction28/12/15 05:46 AM
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It's simply not possible. For some girls you will be the number one choice. For some you will never be. Really hit it off with a very attractive girl, we went out once and she commented more than once that I reminded her of her cousin. Of course when we were making out this got weird for her. Girls are weird. You never know what they'll like. There is no silver bullet.
/r/seduction13/11/15 08:49 PM
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Tinder girls pick the best (or only) guy for a given evening. Sometimes you don't make the cut.
/r/seduction13/11/15 01:02 PM
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When it happens you're like ... "wait, this can't be real." I get so suspicious when girls hit on me. Now I know how they feel. :)
/r/seduction11/11/15 03:33 PM
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Not necessarily accurate. Yes, confidence and body language send signals, but words are baseball bats. If you use the word "date", it comes with a set of rules. So yes, your non-verbal cues are critical, but your words can do the most harm (and only neutral to slight good.)
/r/seduction23/09/15 04:27 AM
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Sex is mental for women, they have to be in a certain frame of mind. That's what foreplay is for. Can women just up and fuck like a guy? Sure. Is it fun? Maybe. Again, communication is the key. If you can't talk explicitly about sex during the act, what's the point?
/r/seduction03/09/15 11:37 AM
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Report back when you've met her a second time or have hooked up with her. That's the challenge. So many first time encounters seem great, very little followthrough.
/r/seduction01/09/15 12:22 AM
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He's established communication, he has to get her to meet him now. That's the hard part with 10s. She's got a full social calendar, he's going to have to make a real effort here to get some of her time.
/r/seduction31/08/15 06:11 PM
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You've done steps 1-3. Now the hard part comes.
/r/seduction31/08/15 04:57 AM
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i'm 6'1" and I still use that line...
/r/seduction21/07/15 10:41 AM
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the further west you go, the easier it gets (Starting with the east coast, ending in Russia.)
/r/seduction19/07/15 01:10 PM
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Very, but you have to be chill in your approach online, but push to meet as fast as you can.
/r/seduction15/07/15 12:10 AM
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On the old "Jack's dickhole" strategy. It's a bold move, but it seemed to pay off in this instance.
/r/seduction11/07/15 01:31 PM
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Personality and circumstance are also fluid. he's at a time in his life that he can be fit, confident, have a motorcycle, carefree life, etc. -- and use it to his advantage. 5 years later, longer commute, needs a car, can't work out as much, gets flabby, Hair loss accelerating... He wouldn't be able to Pull the same girl. Key point is to maximize your current circumstances towards enjoying life and having sex.
/r/seduction10/07/15 02:22 PM
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It's all about where you live. If you live in a major city, you'll have more luck. It's a numbers game. If you live in a small city, move to a big city.
/r/seduction09/07/15 12:28 PM
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I see a little silhouette of a man, got a moose got a moose will you do the fandango?
/r/seduction01/07/15 02:42 PM
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Them foot hairs are called dick ticklers. -- J.R.R. Martin.
/r/seduction01/07/15 02:40 PM
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How much wood would Elijah Wood lay if Elijah Wood could lay wood?
/r/seduction01/07/15 02:39 PM
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6'1" (1.84 m), I won't lie, it helps a lot.
/r/seduction01/07/15 11:18 AM
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It's insane. Like the women here (Balt/DC) are incredibly uptight, pretentious and so fucked up mentally/emotionally that they can't even function without being completely lobotomized by medication.
/r/seduction30/06/15 03:05 AM
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Just to tack onto your guide: I'm coming up on my 100th Tinder date. I'm not as successful (percentage-wise) as the OP, partly because I'm 5-8 out 10, depending on the girl. I'm also older, which makes it more challenging. Big Cities: I always do very well in big cities. So many matches in a very short amount of time. I can usually get a few dates lined up in the same week that I arrive in the city. Los Angeles and San Francisco are very good. Seattle is good too, a little tougher for getting la…
/r/seduction26/06/15 03:44 AM
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isn't molly the same as X? i'm clearly not a drug guy.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/06/15 02:59 PM
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Fucking commit to filming or not.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/15 05:08 AM
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Some women say I'm an intimate lover, I like lots of foreplay kissing and making out.
/r/seduction11/06/15 03:09 PM
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I'm fucking a self-proclaimed lesbian weekly, says that I'm the only guy she's ever been with. not really sure how to feel about that....
/r/seduction11/06/15 01:21 PM
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Why the fuck do you care?
/r/seduction09/06/15 10:15 PM
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I read a comment in another thread earlier today, I think it applies here -- sadly I have to paraphrase since I can't find the original: "My wife has this weird fetish where she likes to dress up like herself and act like a fucking bitch all the time." edit: Credit for this fantastic joke goes to Bo Burnham, thanks /u/FlyingChainsaw !
/r/PussyPassDenied04/06/15 06:53 AM
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Same with texting. Use Tinder as a way to meet people in real life only, anything else is superfluous and/or just serving as a validation tool for some women.
/r/seduction03/06/15 09:46 PM
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PM me and I'll help you, seriously. I want to share some of the lessons I've learned. I don't claim to be a PUA, but I've gotten good (via experimentation) at having a likeable profile, getting numbers and arranging meetings/hangouts (I never call it a date).
/r/seduction03/06/15 09:42 PM
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When I travel, I'm more direct in my approaches. The reason for this is that I typically am time restricted, and have absolutely no long term interest in anyone I would meet. So my interactions via Tinder are very direct. After maybe two or three introductory messages, I recommend meeting up that night or the next. It's "spontaneous", a little exciting, and it's usually much more dynamic than those meetups that occur after a lot of chit chatting. So now I just go direct everytime. Some women are…
/r/seduction03/06/15 09:39 PM
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He did say "ready" to walk away. Look, if a girl is just going to shit test you non-stop because she feels like you might be faking your confidence, then you should also be willing to walk away. I do it all the time when the manipulation starts -- it looks like shit tests at first. I don't have any patience for manipulative women.
/r/seduction01/06/15 01:11 PM
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there's some element of truth to this approach. I've noticed in situations where the naturally occurring we would have a kiss but that maybe got interrupted or something else came up, we were both looking forward to doing it again. This was also especially true if there was a really nice kiss before dropping her off at the end of the evening, it also has the advantage of making you look like a decent guy. having said all this, I wouldn't force the situation -- if she's really into the making out…
/r/seduction30/05/15 05:19 PM
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Sit close, put your hand on her leg, lean in while talking, natural casual conversation.
/r/seduction25/05/15 02:48 PM
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I agree completely, as long as it's not dirty; an unkempt pad leads to reduced anxiety and a general feeling of comfort. Keep your bathroom clean though.
/r/seduction24/05/15 04:05 AM
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It doesn't hurt to hear it again. Some people are on day 1.
/r/seduction23/05/15 02:41 PM
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Here's an example. You suggest going back to your place at the end of an evening, she says "I don't have sex with guys I just met." Normally you might feel embarrassed because she called you out. Instead you'll want to roll with it and say "I don't have sex with guys I just met either." or "Slow down there, ferrari!" Make it seem like she's being aggressive, in a playful tone. Basically keeping it playful, even when you're embarrassed.
/r/seduction18/05/15 12:23 PM
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Pro-tip: looks only matter slightly. Think of it as a flash of wow, but quickly they need to know whether you'll meet their inmediate needs. In a sea of beta AFCs, a confident and capable man rises above. Talent and skill demonstrated is an attraction multiplier. Many women are sapiosexual, demonstrate your intellectual prowess and fortitude of wit -- and you might have elicited the deep throb. Some women have told me: "my pussy was throbbing after our first meeting... i couldn't wait to have yo…
/r/seduction18/05/15 01:51 AM
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every time. "It's not like I'm going to sleep with you." said the last one. Me, "of course not, i mean, why would I?" Two hours later, we're fucking and she says "i never do things like this, you're so different." It's the ones who don't say anything about sex at all that worry me. Nonstop talk about job stuff, ex boyfriend stuff, parents stuff. I nope out of those.
/r/seduction18/05/15 01:36 AM
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She knew exactly what you were doing.
/r/PussyPass10/05/15 09:34 PM
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Would have been more awesome if he punched the principal.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/05/15 08:53 PM
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While I agree from the abundance mentality perspective, the recmmendation works. I've unintentionally used it a few times and they always come back.
/r/seduction05/05/15 12:35 PM
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Isolate. Girls have this weird social slut shield in small towns. But they're also bored to death. So pick a girl you like, ask her to go out somewhere fun, safeish but also where none of her friends are likely to be. I find hiking or picnic by the river are good choices.
/r/seduction05/05/15 11:38 AM
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While yes, it will end terribly, doesn't mean the journey itself has to be terrible too.
/r/seduction04/05/15 01:44 PM
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My assertion ramps up quite a bit two or three days of not slangin the schlong. Lay off the weiner whacking, and you'll do fine.
/r/seduction04/05/15 01:41 PM
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Getting numbers is easy, what you do with it is harder.
/r/seduction03/05/15 05:25 PM
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Stupid question: how can i play these videos in Alien Blue / IOS? It just opens a new page.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/05/15 01:06 AM
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Doesn't work on mobile/iOS.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/04/15 04:44 PM
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Sounds extremely rapey to me. Even though she consented to fooling around, her intoxication should have given you a raging clue that she might not have been able to make rational decisions.
/r/seduction02/04/15 03:16 PM
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This was also almost word-for-word my experience with Tinder too. However one difference: I'm not too attractive maybe a 6 objectively. I've got some points that are an 8 or 9 to some women, but also a serious 4 on something else. I do much better on the west coast (US) than the east coast, easily by a factor of 10. In the south, I do better by a factor of 3, but the quality of women is lower. Having said that, my entire purpose is to whittle it down to one woman. So what you've described isn't …
/r/seduction02/04/15 02:44 PM
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Sounds like an excuse. Just because you hypercriticize some feature of yourself doesn't mean that she will. I have some particular features that honestly turn off a good number of women. I'm okay with that. No-one is universally attractive, not even Rick Steves! So it's a statistics game: keep approaching until you find a working combination. May the odds be ever in your favor.
/r/seduction02/04/15 12:28 PM
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Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish, and he loses his wife.
/r/seduction02/04/15 12:21 PM
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Pleasethnxbye.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/04/15 02:23 PM
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She committed the crime. Don't forget that tiny little detail.
/r/PussyPass16/03/15 12:43 PM
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I thought it was exceedingly obvious. It's already been removed, so not an issue now.
/r/PussyPass15/03/15 10:35 PM
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he's kind of a dick, but it's hilarious.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/03/15 08:35 PM
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Good FR, sounds like a great start to life in a new country!
/r/seduction10/03/15 04:59 PM
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Actual asian fetishist here. I get asked this occasionally, but only after I have mentioned or hinted at any of the following: (a) any previous asian girlfriend, (b) any experience with asian culture, and (c) highlight any of their features associated with "asians" (e.g., how black and shiny her hair is). It almost never comes up during the attraction phase, and if it does I see it as a shit test. "Of course, just like you only date white guys."
/r/seduction04/03/15 01:08 PM
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To a certain extent, but you have to give tidbits too.
/r/seduction18/02/15 08:30 PM
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The first time i read about "yeah?" i thought there was no way it would work. It does amazing things. You're listening but you don't really care, and would rather do something more interesting.
/r/seduction18/02/15 08:17 PM
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What really works for me in these situations, is to just not say anything at all if my mind is going wild. I will just say "yeah?" and continue listening, or allow the silence, which builds tension. A few moments of silence helps keep things calibrated too. Then you can loop back on some key pharasr or words she said earlier. if you're under the assumption of attraction, then she is going to be "inner monologing" as well. so I always just assume that she's just as nervous too, that makes the who…
/r/seduction18/02/15 07:59 PM
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Never perv with your opening line. Make an offhand remark about something in her photograph, but not a question. "Looks like you went to Rome too, I loved it!"
/r/seduction12/02/15 01:15 AM
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I still find the DTF ones, but the landscape is changing.
/r/seduction11/02/15 12:51 AM
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Save it for the last minute. Build up some rapport with about 5 different women, and then ask "spontaneously" if they're up for hanging out.
/r/seduction10/02/15 08:21 PM
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This must be in certain markets? I pay nothing and use it daily, and swipe like crazy.
/r/seduction10/02/15 08:18 PM
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Tinder is free, what are you talking about? Maybe you should select better photographs and have a normal bio.
/r/seduction10/02/15 02:37 PM
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you can't post a shirtless selfie. A beach shot with friends or your dog, etc... basically any pic where it would be totally normal to be shirtless in public is okay, so long as it isn't blatantly trying just to show off your physique.
/r/seduction09/02/15 11:33 PM
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Yes!! You'll thank me later. It's not just for hooking up, girls are using it for legitimate dating.
/r/seduction09/02/15 09:06 PM
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your first picture should be of you in a suit and tie, if at all possible. The most dapper, professional looking picture that you can come up with. The next one should be you with an animal/pet. after that it should be something a little bit goofy, to show that you're not too serious. The next one should be with a group of friends, to show that you're not a loaner. and if you can manage to throw a travel picture in there, to show that you do interesting and fun things that'll cap it off. smiles …
/r/seduction09/02/15 09:04 PM
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If you're serious, Tinder is going nuts right now, girls are clamoring for that VDay date.
/r/seduction09/02/15 04:30 PM
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This is great. Who knows what else was going on, but he obviously tried to de-escalate and back away.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/02/15 06:47 PM
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Lol, I get the reference.
/r/seduction29/01/15 04:11 PM
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I did say in my original post that they usually call me out on that being an indirect answer. Answering a woman directly never achieves anything.
/r/seduction28/01/15 10:43 PM
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That's too wishy-washy. I see what you're getting at, but you've established that (a) you're non-committal, (b) no idea what you want, (c) and by mentioning "a great girl" that's not her will really piss her off, and (d) you're picky... exciting! I'm not attacking you personally. I truly believe, based on extensive experience (10+ years of seduction) that you absolutely have to be polarizing. This is rooted in "Abundance Mentality" -- if you polarize her toward you, then you're set. If not, not …
/r/seduction28/01/15 09:16 PM
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I can't control other peoples' motivations -- she has her intentions and goals. It's nothing to do with my intentions.
/r/seduction28/01/15 09:11 PM
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Of course, that's not the entire conversation, but it's the mindset. I want to disqualify myself from the "dating expectations" as soon as possible. Are there other ways to do it, yes, of course. I'm just explaining what has worked best for me recently.
/r/seduction28/01/15 09:10 PM
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I don't think you have any idea how this works, or you're female -- I've never, ever, been able to straight up ask for a fuck buddy because they'll always say no.
/r/seduction27/01/15 09:05 PM
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Wow, that guy is a retard. But i don't give a shit about power tripping mods. If the sub goes to shit, i find another sub.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/15 05:15 PM
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explain? I'm relatively new and i don't see any annoying trends. every high ranked post is on spot with the notion of the sub.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/01/15 04:48 PM
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Bob has dealt with people like her before, way to go Bob!
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/15 06:07 PM
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I avoid the word like a plague -- i use meeting or hang out or meetup -- never a date. Too many rules when it's a date.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:26 PM
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Mid 40s? My fucking hero. I'm pushing 40 and still gaming women in their mid 20s, but the line is getting more distinct. What's your target age range? How do you normally dress? any gray hair?
/r/seduction05/11/14 06:30 PM
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Back in the day, usenet newsgroups were the place for sharing formation. alt.seduction was a major help to me early on, and it consisted of 99% self post, field reports, questions and answers. This is what I hope seddit will be. Lets employ those downvote buttons a little more to help craft the subreddit that we want it to be.
/r/seduction05/11/14 05:45 PM
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Keep the attraction and game up. In my experience the second time sex is even more of a test than the first.
/r/seduction20/10/14 03:37 AM
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Sad to say there have been more than a few times where i was genuinely conceened that the girl i just fucked in my hotel room was going to steal something.
/r/seduction19/10/14 02:42 PM
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I don't know if you noticed yet, but I noticed you noticing me. I hope now that it's duly noted that we have self-noticed, and now I'm notifying you that I noticed your noticing of my noticing and hopefully we can continue to notice each other in the near future.
/r/seduction08/10/14 05:01 PM
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Gotta relax and foreplay that a little more. It happens to me if I'm rushed into the bedroom and expected to start fucking.
/r/seduction06/10/14 04:02 PM
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It can be anything non-creepy and something that you wove into an earlier conversation. I've simply said "lets go hang out at my place." Usually you'll want to "show her" something interesting, watch a show together, etc. By the way, don't pick a movie that is too intense or romantic.
/r/seduction26/09/14 01:36 PM
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remove things that distract you. "Goodbye penis, You will be sorely missed."
/r/seduction22/09/14 11:04 PM
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70 in four years? That number seems low to me, especially for someone who is actively trying. The key to college girls is being confident and fun. College girls don't want to settle down, they know that this is party time. They want a man who fully understands that. Most of his language seems to indicate he's already fairly attractive. But what is attractiveness? If he dressed down, had a bad haircut, had scraggly neckbeard, always looks sullen or down... still the same guy, but outward appearan…
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:11 AM
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38 here, still dating / hooking up with very attractive women in their mid-20s up to late 30s. It depends on your perspective. Look at it this way, you've got at least the next 10 years to become the best version of yourself that you can be. Women flock to men who are mature, confident, well built, well dressed, speak candidly and act independently. In the past 10 years, I have improved almost every aspect of my life -- and women who i would have previously thought out of my league are hitting o…
/r/seduction12/08/14 06:09 PM
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i didnt learn seduction until well into my 30s -- i wish i had known at 18. Have fun and be safe.
/r/seduction03/08/14 02:21 PM
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This is absolutely true in my experience. I often pre-empt this discussion as follows: "hey, we're close to my place, i want to show you that interesting thing i'm passionate about -- but no funny business, okay? :)" So in her mind this plants the sex possibility but makes her wonder why you aren't going to make that move. So many times women have complained to me that they wish their last dates had made the moves. Women generally do not want to be aggressive sexually, but they do want to get fu…
/r/seduction18/07/14 07:15 PM
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This statement is simple yet profoundly important. Girls like guys who can flirt. Being confident in yourself and your sexuality, while simultaneously making her feel wanted -- that's powerful stuff. It makes you rise above the sea of inept attempts at pickup. "A wild challenger appears!"
/r/seduction06/06/14 03:20 PM
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"Specialty retail stores" is a more accurate categorization of stores for finding older women women who are fit, fun, and flirty.
/r/seduction16/05/14 06:15 PM
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Hotel Bars, particularly conference hotels and business hotels. Dress sharp. Also Upscale food stores, such as Wegman's, trader joes, world market. Places that sell discount fashion clothing: Marshall's, TJ Maxx, Ross, also occasionally had luck in Pier One and HomeGoods. Arts and Craft stores are hit and miss.
/r/seduction16/05/14 05:20 PM
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have you ever used Tinder? it only makes one part, the most trivial part of seduction, easy. The opening. after that it's everything else that makes seduction a challenge. You have to establish a rapport. You have to build comfort. You have to get her to meet you. Believe me, getting a girl to meet you is quite difficult sometimes. A majority of them are there just boost their egos, and have no actual intention of meeting anyone. so why don't you give it a shot, spend about a month on Tinder, an…
/r/seduction01/05/14 10:11 PM
1

Keep that confidence tone down the compliments. Pick-up is the prime example of practice makes perfect. You have to get lots of field experience to really start to understand what works and most importantly, what doesn't.
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:09 PM
7

What they think they want and what they actually want are two different things.
/r/seduction27/03/14 04:27 PM
1

I think the advice that I have here is that you have to get used to touching girls. So the best way to practice this is the find girls who you may not necessarily like but who are interested in you, and then just practice simple Kino. hell you could even ask them about, how they feel comfortable being touched -- what a guy should do to make them feel more comfortable about being touched, etc. Find a "trainer girl" maybe a good friend who is sympathetic to you. every woman I know would be more th…
/r/seduction20/03/14 04:38 AM
2

Hey man, no problem. So the first thing you got to do you got to set the tone for the date via Tinder or via email or text. normally I would never recommend this for regular pick up, because text game is usually of lower value than face-to-face. However the nature of Tinder is, text game. so you've got to establish the following: that you're confident in yourself, nothing can faze you or make you feel defensive, that you're willing to ask and answer tough questions, you are fun and playful, you …
/r/seduction20/03/14 03:36 AM
2

They're getting too tied up in the "process" of seduction, forgetting that the goal is to get closer to a woman. Yeah, it's really challenging to go to the gym and pick up a woman with a cold opener. But why do that when they're meeting you half-way on Tinder?
/r/seduction13/03/14 03:26 PM
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there's guys on this sub Reddit who will poo poo tinder saying that it's "easy mode". I agree completely, it's really easy to get laid using tinder! You don't have to deal with a vast majority of the opening bullshit that you normally have to deal with, you just escalate from the beginning after you get a match at almost always works out. having said that, there are a few things that you should and should not do on tinder. As the OP said, you have to be polarizing. You have to be assertive, aggr…
/r/seduction13/03/14 02:47 PM
4

This isn't a field report. A field report contains actual information.
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:49 PM
2

My first pic is a b/w face shot. I have no description.
/r/seduction02/03/14 01:34 PM
16

I do! My wife died some years ago, i'm just trying to make the best of it. No shame in wanting to be a man again.
/r/seduction02/03/14 01:32 PM
4

To a certain extent, yes. It's an easy opener. But like any seduction, opening is always the easiest part. Building attraction and establishing a rapport is the harder part.
/r/seduction01/03/14 02:20 PM
1

Seriously, i'm a solid 6. My teeth are kind of fucked up and i'm not in good shape. Girls do not care how you look. As long as you are clean, dress well for your body shape, act and move with confidence, are visibly passionate about something thats not childish, and you take risks with relationships; then they will perceive your value. This is DHV (demonstrating higher value). Making yourself unique from other guys (most of whom use beta techniques) is also critical. Teasing is an important part…
/r/seduction01/03/14 02:19 PM
2

I usually make fun of one of their pictures, that seems to work pretty well .
/r/seduction01/03/14 02:26 AM
1

I typically make a little fun of one of their pictures.
/r/seduction01/03/14 02:25 AM
1

You have to log in pretty regularly, and set your match distance to like 10 miles or so. Keep trying!
/r/seduction01/03/14 12:13 AM
7

I'm just providing my insights. If it's not helpful to you, move on.
/r/seduction28/02/14 10:01 PM
0

Same here actually. Just completely not giving a fuck at all about whether or not you might be offending her -- that works pretty well. "You're so different from other guys." I've heard that many times, and when I hear that, I know that it's on. She's essentially allowing herself to behave differently than she would normally.
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:54 PM
2

I'll toss in my 2 cents. Tinder is no different from any other method for meeting people except that women are not inundated with messages. At my peak usage, I would get 5 to 10 legit matches per day. of those, I would wonder why i hit like on about half. The remaing few actually have a conversation. Of those, 1 is typically interested in meeting right away. So I was meeting up with a few differebt women per week, as opposed to cold approaches which was netting me a few per month. Met a super aw…
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:55 PM
1

You go out to get laid, but you only get a cookie -- you're disappointed. You go out to have fun, you get a free cookie -- that's fucking awesome. Mindset is king.
/r/seduction08/01/14 03:19 PM
3

FWIW, 1Q84 is a fantastic, if not lengthy, read (as are most of Murakami's books).
/r/seduction10/12/13 10:54 PM
2

"... seem to be pretty confident ..." That's the operative phrase. When I first started learning about seduction, the most important thing I learned when just starting out was "fake it until you make it" That axiom gets shit on pretty often around htere, but the point is that you have to pretend to be confident in order to feel confident. Many things can help with this. First of all, your outward appearance has to be practiced. Dress +1 nicer than your competition. Find famous actors whom you mo…
/r/seduction02/12/13 07:06 PM
2

Dont get overly confident. Have fun, be fun, lead the interaction.
/r/seduction02/12/13 03:55 PM
14

if you have already built that rapport and comfort level, you don't need the whistle trick. just pull her close to you, gaze intensely into her eyes for a moment, then just kiss her. never apologize for kissing her, just say it felt amazing.
/r/seduction25/11/13 04:07 PM
18

The key point is to not be so intent on a single person when in a mixed group. It makes them and everyone else feel a little creepy. Imagine you're in a meeting, and the boss keeps making comments to the cute intern -- as if the veracity of her opinions is magnified by the amount of cleavage she's displaying.
/r/seduction14/11/13 03:44 PM
115

Can we add this to the sidebar? This is a great read and feels spot on to an introvert like me.
/r/seduction17/10/13 01:52 PM
-1

They do sell lube in 55 gallon barrels.
/r/seduction17/10/13 01:40 PM
3

Hey baby, why don't you come over to my place?
/r/seduction17/10/13 01:39 PM
1

Personally I would've laughed it off too, but my point was if you didn't know the guy very well, he could've taken it seriously.
/r/seduction03/10/13 07:06 PM
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"Somehow that works" I'm guessing you look fairly badass / well-built? edit: just as not to be misunderstood: when you insult someone like that, they usually take offense to it. I was simply suggesting that his physical presence might have been a deterrent to the guy breaking his face.
/r/seduction03/10/13 01:54 AM
5

is it wrong that the comment made me hungry?
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:17 PM
3

Escalate more next time. Make plans to do something fun and public. live music or a trip to the zoo are always fun ideas. kino a little to establish your sexuality.
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:16 PM
37

"Hey, its been great chatting with you, what's your number?" "2" "awesome, call you later... "
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:04 PM
3

(inbox flooded with dick pics)
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:03 PM
4

Well, you just alienated 90% of possible women to sleep with.
/r/seduction13/09/13 08:02 PM
3

Shit, there is always one week per month that girls arent receptive -- so that is 75% chance at best for a random woman.
/r/seduction21/08/13 07:59 PM
2

For example? I find some of the words are very specific and descriptive without having to type out fully each time what one means. AMOG is a perfect example, alpha male of the group -- it implies a lot of things.
/r/seduction19/08/13 04:28 PM
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Here's the thing about "Naturals" -- they had practice too. They just didn't see it as practice.. They saw it as having fun and talking to girls they found attractive. For them, it's a Natural thing to do, talk to cute girls and flirt with them. Getting "blown-out" isn't even a thing, because they have no real vested interest in the outcome of the interaction, they're in it for the interaction itself. Key point: naturals are not (necessarily) outcome dependent, they do not gauge success by wheth…
/r/seduction09/08/13 10:38 AM
3

It's called survivorship bias. You can't learn from success alone, you have to learn from failures. This is why we (the community) advocate getting blown out. You learn what works for you and you apply that. Not all "methods" work the same. I'll let you in on a little secret about seduction: the so-called canned routines and techniques we espouse here, along with all of the jargon, are all not-so-cleverly designed ruses. They are intended for the learner to find his (or her) own natural game! "W…
/r/seduction22/07/13 04:21 PM
4

Let's hear about some of the less effective attempts... like what zero game guys do. Standing around, making eye contact, but not approaching seems to be a common one.
/r/seduction22/07/13 05:24 AM
8

your very last paragraph is dead, absolutely dead, right -- but for the wrong reasons. You will land so many more girls different than this one, they may not be attractive as her in the same ways, but I've found that I enjoy little things about every girl I've spent time with. Even if they weren't pretty in the face, I still enjoyed the experience and always strive for both of us to have fun. If we're not laughing at some point during sex, it's too serious.
/r/seduction15/07/13 07:09 PM
1

Better!
/r/seduction11/07/13 11:35 PM
8

Casual/friendly openers that work for me: "Hi, my name is Nom, what's yours?" "Those earrings are interesting, did you make them yourself?" (it's a little neggy, I use that for HB 8+) "You are lovely (brief pause) my name is Nom, what's yours?" (more direct, but not supplicating -- I never use "cute" or "pretty" or "beautiful" or describe anything about their appearance directly. i.e., you would never say "You look sexy." You could, however, say "You are sexy." It's bold, but it could work in th…
/r/seduction11/07/13 04:42 PM
8

Extremely, given that I haven't even read it yet -- and I'm not a nubile virgin. I have lots of respect for Tofu, but this smells of promotional setup.
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:13 PM
1

Jon?
/r/seduction20/06/13 07:24 PM
3

yep. he was reasonably good looking otherwise... never quite understood the short guy complex...
/r/seduction20/06/13 07:13 PM
7

Even after having given over a hundred public presentations, I still talk too fast. It's a verbal "wall of text". I can see some people in the audience are visibly stunned... So I now add pregnant pauses for effect at key points in my talk, it's amazing to see how a sudden beat drop gets everyone's attention.
/r/seduction20/06/13 04:41 PM
9

A short friend of mine would unconsciously deepen his voice when talking to women he was attracted to. He never even noticed that he did it, but it was obvious to anyone who knew his real voice.
/r/seduction20/06/13 04:38 PM
1

Women are so used to guys eyeballing them but not having the nerve to approach. When a guy does approach, and he does so in a non-creepy way, that's really unusual and memorable. Many girls I've been with remember exactly what I said to them in my "opener" -- even if it was a little bit cheesy or poorly delivered, the mission was accomplished.
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:48 PM
1

Are you referring to the post of the video or the comments about the removal of the video?
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:44 PM
2

I'm inclined to agree with you on the deletion part, that's excessive. I can totally get behind the banning of further posting of the video, but I can't really get behind deleting comments about the action. Responsibility for your actions, as a leader of a community, ThrowawayPUA has to be able to take the good with the bad in equal stride. (Plus that's a good "alpha" characteristic -- giving value and rolling with the punches).
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:43 PM
0

The point isn't to get people not to watch the video, it's to get people to stop posting it. As OP/mod said, it's the fact that it's being posted over and over that triggered the problem and also the fact that everyone in the video is being paid to behave a certain way...
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:38 PM
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Seems irrelevant to the point ThrowawayPUA is making -- it doesn't matter whether it's publicity stunt or not; it's not teaching seduction founded on core principles. If it were Russell Brand in disguise going out and picking up random women, then I would argue that it would be relevant. A group of paid actors in a room interacting with each other doesn't teach anyone anything (about seduction).
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:35 PM
-1

you have exactly 3 seconds from the moment you notice her to begin your approach My minor modification to this rule is 3 seconds from when she notices you. This is prevents the sudden and unexpected "Wow!" from nowhere.
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:51 PM
17

"Wow, can you tell me how to get to Central Park?" "Um, sure, just keep walking along this road -- you'll run right into it." "Wow, thanks. Wow, what a beautiful day. Wow, it was nice to meet you. Wow, see ya later."
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:49 PM
6

I'm a nonsmoker, so I bum a cig off of one, and give a cig to another -- otherwise I'm holding a handful of cigarettes?
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:47 PM
4

The mental image of this is funny, noticing a girl across a busy intersection, and you hauling ass across traffic just to say something like "hey... * heavy breathing * ... my name .. * panting * " by this time she's completely creeped out and walks away.
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:47 PM
1

That was the OP you were responding to.
/r/seduction04/06/13 12:57 PM
3

This, by itself, means nothing. I don't mean this in a bad way. We're talking about a dynamic between two people: you and her. For opening / breaking sets, etc., being able to talk a little is great. Confidence and being unflappable is better... especially when dealing with bitch shields and AMOG / Destroyers. Their techniques are almost always to isolate you from the conversations: "Who are you, again?" "This guy is full of shit, right buddy?" etc. That's where being able to talk can bring you …
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:23 PM
1

Opening, in general, has to be friendly and non-clingy / lingering. The worst kind of opening is "hey", followed by awkward silence. I like tangential approaches, where I just make an offhand comment about something interesting that we're both aware of. If I'm in a retail store, I'll ask something like "Have you used this kind of <object> before?" with a quizzical look. Also, what's going on with the overzealous moderation here? Let's let the downvotes do their job, rather than AskScience type m…
/r/seduction25/04/13 05:16 PM
1

Some people, like myself, are unable to watch the video. A summary would be greatly appreciated.
/r/seduction19/04/13 04:35 PM
1

I realize you are being facetious, but I recommend being as honest as possible about the details... it can come back to you later. An occasional embellishment is okay, as long as evertthing surrounding it is true.
/r/seduction18/02/13 12:14 PM
1

I'm not going to lie to her about tutoring, I would actually tutor the fuck out of her.
/r/seduction07/02/13 02:21 PM
1

This is the best approach... that quizzical look, I know exactly what you're talking about. Works really well and is disarming.
/r/seduction07/02/13 02:20 PM
2

When I say never apologize, I mean about your attraction to that person or inconveniencing them. People apologize too much for not doing anything wrong. Canada may be a different story, sorry.
/r/seduction07/02/13 02:18 PM
4

Hmm, that' comes off as creepy to me. Instead, try to guess which building she's going to and ask where it is. She'll say she's going there too, and now there's no reason for you to walk separately, unless you get creepy. A number close from this approach is almost never solid unless you've really built a good rapport and created some memorable points. A playful debate about something inane usually does the trick. "So, serious question: Ice cream, favorite flavor?" No matter what she says, you h…
/r/seduction07/02/13 07:03 AM
5

Solid advice. Today I opened a very cute undergrad, 19ish, just for fun. I started off lame, Me: "Looks like you've got a test?" Her: "Yep." Me: "Welp, good luck." We were sitting across from each other sharing a table, so I just went back to my stuff for awhile. Her friendzoned buddy comes along later, scowls at me a little, but they start talking statistics, she's asking him what does "x" mean? He's clueless. So I look at him and say x is the independent variable, usually. Then she engages me:…
/r/seduction07/02/13 06:57 AM
5

Seriously, read what these other guys are saying. There's some easy tips to approaching women that have worked for me. Compliment her accessory choices. Look for pointless or flashy accessories -- those are her hooks for you to open with. "Your earrings are amazing, I saw some like these in a market in <exotic foreign country that you've been to> -- is that where you got them?" "I think there are more buttons than backpack going on here. It's almost bullet proof. This one is my favorite though..…
/r/seduction07/02/13 06:50 AM
50

The number one rule of obtaining anything: "If you don't ask for it, it won't be given to you."
/r/seduction06/02/13 03:37 PM
8

the difference between creepy and attractive is your actions. Within 3 seconds of you noticing a girl noticing you (i.e., mutual knowledge of each others' existence), you have to open. If you're just staring her down with your smouldering good looks, she's gonna be creeped out because you're not following through. Think of it this way, you go to the checkout lane at a supermarket, you dump all your items on the belt. The lady scans each item and they start piling up at the end. She's not bagging…
/r/seduction30/01/13 03:40 PM
2

Having grown up in the midwest U.S., ... You really have to go somewhere where a college / university exists or where there are fashion centers / shopping districts. Otherwise, the population of interesting 20 somethings is incredibly sparse.
/r/seduction25/01/13 06:26 PM
20

Jaime Bond, he's half mexican.
/r/seduction25/01/13 04:44 PM
1

Sounds fishy. Girls getting numbers from guys is a ego booster. "How many numbers did you get tonight?" "I got 12, not bad" ... it's fishing. In order to really take it to the next level, you had to build significant attraction at the club, so that she'll have a reason to call.
/r/seduction14/01/13 04:40 PM
1

I think this is a success, TBH. You can't expect to fuck on the first day, no matter how great it went. I couldn't find fault with anything you did. The key here is followup -- you have to arrange to meet her again, do not call it a date. Since she's staying with family, you're not going to be able to keep her overnight. So have a brunch meetup, then take her back to your place for afternoon delight. (if she agrees to meetup, she's DTF -- so have a new toothbrush / fresh clean towels / condoms &…
/r/seduction14/01/13 04:30 PM
2

Why even bother? Seriously... she's got major issues. And I always multiply their guy number by 2, so 14 for her, at age 18. If you're going to pursue this, ensure that you don't give her any personal information about your job or where you live. When things go south, and they will, she's gonna go all Adele on your ass. Also, never call anything "a date" unless you're planning on marrying this girl later on, because for women, the only purpose of a date is to further a committed relationship.
/r/seduction07/01/13 03:50 PM
2

It's tough, and honestly, depends on how slutty she is. If she's really conservative, which most of my type is, then never admit guilt. Once you've established that you're a liar, they want nothing to do with you. That's why I generally advocate honesty but not over-honesty -- that is, tell them what they need to know, but don't offer more than that.
/r/seduction28/12/12 12:10 AM
32

Not sure if you're serious, but okay: At the peak of my "game" in grad. school, I was seeing 5 different girls at the same time. I literally had to keep notes about each one to remember what we talked about, what she liked, which of her parents were dead, etc. Each of these girls were at various stages of intimacy, so I would go from fucking one to holding hands with another. It was surreal. Also, of note: All of them are Asian (like non-american Asians, but not FOBs). One night, the hottest of …
/r/seduction28/12/12 12:06 AM
12

I totally do not fit the PUA description... I fit the awkward nerd description. One Korean girl told me she liked me because I look like a giraffe. DM;HS.
/r/seduction27/12/12 10:15 PM
20

I've tried to help a guy who was clearly new to the game but was using well known/obvious methods, but he got offended... I certainly wasn't being a dick, but I guess he just felt embarrassed.
/r/seduction27/12/12 05:29 PM
41

I've been called out a few times, although it wasn't because of technique necessarily, it was because of how quickly we were progressing. "You're not one of those guys who goes around picking up women are you?" "No, look at me, do I look like that type of guy?" "Heh, no. Good point."
/r/seduction27/12/12 05:26 PM
7

Gym is tough. The upside is if you see her again, you can make fun of yourself a little -- and complain that you were totally off your game that day.
/r/seduction16/12/12 04:41 AM
-1

If we, as a community, don't put down this sort of bullshit then we're not doing ourselves any favors. Please read the sidebar, in there you will find lots of information about becoming a complete man, you will not find a single guide on "how to bang as many chicks as possible, for the lulz". I'm suggesting that his inner game is totally out of wack. He's got the technique, but his application of the technique is guided by ego, lust, and probably a low self-esteem. His game seems to be seek and …
/r/seduction11/12/12 02:56 PM
218

Alright, I'll be the one to say it. You're a douche. I don't mean that in a cunty sort of way, I mean it in a loving "you've gone too far" sort of way. You're crossing over to the dark side of seduction. You're in it for the sex and glory, and that's a slippery slope into a deep abyss. I've been there, and although it seems like fun, it's all superficial. This community is not about fucking as many girls as you can. It's about being the best man that you can be. A real man, not a d-bag that garn…
/r/seduction11/12/12 02:24 AM
2

Just to add to the pile of comments, no girl wants to feel like a slut, it's almost impossible to get a quality girl to get bent on the first date. I've only done it once, and even didn't feel good about it... so I try to go as far as possible the first date, but I do not try to break the LMR. Second date, if she comes over, then it's full on. From the moment she walks in the door, you've gotta be all over her. Up against the wall, full on deep kissing, taking her clothes off while she's taking …
/r/seduction30/11/12 08:17 PM
2

The TL;DR is: I opened, I DHV'd, I supplicated, I kinoed, I rapport'd, I #-closed, and stole a kiss.
/r/seduction30/11/12 07:42 PM
5

puaCurveBall has it right (and has been saying it for a long time) -- texting as part of your game is really handicapping yourself. It should only be used as a brief means of communication. She texts her friends all the time, therefore, texting is the "friends realm". Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get her as far away mentally and physically from the friends realm as possible. That way there's no social review, no "rules". Use text to make plans, confirm plans, and that's re…
/r/seduction29/11/12 07:59 PM
4

In a few more weeks, it's going to feel like magic, fucking magic. You are going to say to yourself "is this even real?" You will stand in awe of what you've become. My advice is to maintain your sense of self. Do not change who you are to accomplish your goals, become the best version of yourself. In the long term, this "limit", as it were, will pay off because no-one could accuse you of "being different" or having pretended to be something you're not. So along with your techniques you've learn…
/r/seduction15/11/12 09:10 AM
16

Pam... P-A-M. Pam...
/r/seduction05/11/12 05:21 PM
2

And just hope she doesn't go by a nickname.
/r/seduction05/11/12 05:19 PM
14

Jesus dude, 90 days? I was dying by day 5 in the 7 day challenge.
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:55 PM
1

"Hello" begs and equivalent or lesser response. Instead, you want to initiate an escalated response. This is the purpose of openers. This is especially true when approaching an HB9/10 -- who are regularly approached with awkward "Hi"/"Hello" greetings. Instead, you need to show immediate value for her to invest in continuing the conversation with you. I always like to tease / neg a little, reframe, then introduce. It's like the hook in a song, you hook first and early. Then melody, chorus, bridg…
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:28 AM
0

Great FR, one comment: "mom made eggs and bacon" Move out, seriously. You're 23.
/r/seduction24/09/12 12:36 AM
1

I've never, ever, had a girl get angry or say "no, I'm not." to such an obtuse demand. 90% of the time she laughs at the audacity first, thinks about it while I'm waiting patiently, then says "sure, it'll be fun." "damn right it will be. <smile> I'll pick you up at 7. Wear something you wouldn't wear to church." And walk away. The other 10% is "haha, I'm busy tonight." Some offer to do it another night, which is good. If there's no offer fo doing it at a later time, then you're off the hook -- g…
/r/seduction20/09/12 07:03 PM
10

(since this isn't on askseddit...) JESUS H FUCKING HOLY HELL. Let me recap: A girl notices you weren't in class. You're athletic. She approaches you, after watching your game. And you're wondering what to do? Right now she's probably wondering where your gay boyfriend is. You need to do the following: as soon as you see her next time, I mean literally moments after you see her, walk directly to her, tell her that she's coming to dinner with you tonight.
/r/seduction20/09/12 04:09 AM
1

Great job man, you're on the right path for developing your game. Just wait, in a very short time you're going to have the following problem: How do I juggle 5 girls at one time? I had to start keeping notes about each one, so I didn't get them confused or say the wrong thing. I hung out with a girl for 3-4 months before she realized I had forgotten her name. Normally I just do the "hey lets laugh at our driver's license pictures", but she didn't have a license... she always uses a handle for al…
/r/seduction14/09/12 02:07 PM
1

I once read about a professional mountain biker who would intentionally slam themself into a tree a few times before a race, simply to get it (or the shock) out of the way during the race. Once you're racing, a tree crash (any crash, really) takes you out of the zone mentally and physically. So crash early and ride hard.
/r/seduction13/09/12 05:43 PM
9

The Calvinball comment reminds me of the Points Game. When I first started pickup, i would always carry a small spiral notebook, really small, but spiral, so you can flip it open. I'd meetup with a girl, and have the notebook out and ready. At completely random times, I would quickly write down a number, such as 5, flip the notebook shut, and keep talking. It only takes a couple of times before they ask -- "whats with the notebook?" "Oh? I am keeping score." "haha, score, what do you mean?" "wel…
/r/seduction10/09/12 01:33 PM
3

I've said it here several times. The best way to get over AA is to open everyone. Eventually you'll have built the necessary tools to initiate, open, hold, and build on conversation. For introverts like me, this required actual training. Training myself to communicate, and continue communicating. I also had to train myself to be aware of body language cues that tell you when to stop talking and start listening (or walk away). The difference between a creepy guy and a cool guy is: (1) conversatio…
/r/seduction31/08/12 05:10 PM
6

Lets make a new rule for ourselves. When soloing, approach as many people as possible. Friendly / casual, drinks, conversation. Not giving a fuck on approaching everyone earns all sorts of points, sitting quietly by yourself whilst mentally masturbating doesn't earn you any points. Afraid of blowout? They're not your type of people anyway if they blow you off or ignore you -- why care one bit?
/r/seduction30/08/12 06:52 PM
2

The Game?
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:00 PM
2

Yes, there are socially awkward guys in the community. Thanks for helping us out with this keen observation. Why, the fuckety fuck, do you think they're in the community? Because they are, indeed, socially awkward and would like to be less socially awkward with women. Shocking revelation! Do you consider the other students in your remedial math class to be losers because they can't math things? If you're going to "lair meetings" to obtain value from these guys, you've got the wrong mindset. The …
/r/seduction25/08/12 04:34 AM
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This is what I was thinking as well.
/r/seduction24/08/12 04:48 PM
14

Sounds to me like you never actually learned the core values that the community seeks to teach. You were in it to get laid, and brag about it. You have a massive ego and inferiority complex -- seriously, callng guys in the community losers because they are trying to better themselves? The real losers are the ones who never even try.
/r/seduction24/08/12 04:47 PM
4

By talking to people he got a job. The title is 100% relevant.
/r/seduction22/08/12 08:46 PM
2

First thing I do when I am going to interact with a new group / department. This advice is absolutely true, except in that rare case when everyone hates the secretary.
/r/seduction22/08/12 08:45 PM
1

First point is important, you want to make her feel special or unique. She's brightened your day. Peacocking is really hard to pull off effectively. Johnny Depp, okay.
/r/seduction18/08/12 03:55 PM
11

You interested?
/r/seduction18/08/12 03:50 PM
2

This is exactly right. I've always been a pretty serious fellow. Scientist by trade, gamer, grew up around guys, etc. So my emotional range has been pretty limited. I've had to train myself to be more comfortable without being creepy. Keeping positive thoughts in mind helps me stay in frame, and ensures that all of my body language is open and relaxed. I never cross my arms or legs anymore in front of other people. Nor do I sit like a king... I keep an open posture that says "confident" but not …
/r/seduction18/08/12 02:20 AM
1

This strikes me as a little too guido, but if you've got the pecs for it, yes, Ricky Martin really pulled this one off well.
/r/seduction18/08/12 02:15 AM
1

Eh, I don't know. Women don't like mysterious men without having some level of connection with them.
/r/seduction18/08/12 02:15 AM
1

I'm not talking about fake smiling, I'm talking about thinking about something that makes you genuinely smile. Eye contact is whole other can of worms. The rule of thumb is to hold a person's gaze until they start to waver slightly, smile and gaze elsewhere while talking about something. It's always tricky, this one. Of course too little eye contact indicates shyness and passiveness, so there's a happy medium somewhere.
/r/seduction18/08/12 02:13 AM
0

Depends on what I'm doing: Day game, I'll wear a tighter fitting polo style shirt or even an workout/golf shirt, lighter colored / faded blue jeans, and non-shiny black leather shoes. My hair isn't combed, just kind of loose but shorter. I keep a little bit of stubble on the face. Night game, which I don't do much of, I'll wear a white casual button up shirt, but leave the top open / unbuttoned, a tighter dark blazer / suit coat, dark jeans -- similar to what Liam Neeson is wearing here, and Cal…
/r/seduction18/08/12 02:09 AM
1

Yes, but I needed to tell a story.
/r/seduction18/08/12 01:50 AM
6

Thanks for the heads up. Basically what you're saying is that you don't understand the purpose of "negging", some women have low self esteem, and that you think that girls know about "PUA stuff". Insightful! Only once did a girl call me out as being "a player", and I laughed it off and started throwing lame lines at her, she laughed. I laughed. We both laughed. Much mirth and merriment commenced. Negging is not for use on low self esteem girls. It is for use on women who are constantly approache…
/r/seduction18/08/12 01:49 AM
1

Yes, it did.
/r/seduction11/08/12 11:36 PM
1

The pained look on her face said otherwise... we used to be "best friends" for 7+ years prior to her moving away.
/r/seduction11/08/12 11:35 PM
32

Let's discuss awkward: Fell in love with girl who was also my officemate, I was friendzoned -- she didn't know I loved her. She moves away after graduating, gets job. We lose touch. I eventually graduate and move to new job. She works in the same building as I do, completely by chance. I tell her my feelings. She doesn't feel the same, and suggests we don't communicate with each other. I see her everyday after that in the hallway. I died a little bit each time.
/r/seduction11/08/12 06:21 PM
-1

"I moved to a new place" or "he moved out."
/r/seduction11/08/12 06:14 PM
78

Finds out your neighbors what?
/r/seduction11/08/12 06:13 PM
2

The problem is that if your goal is to teach others, you are going to have to break down techniques into digestible chunks. You cant simply tell people to be "magnetic". There is a reason why the methods tauted here work for regular guys, because it these techniques make you appear to be more natural through practice. Just like piano players, some are naturally good, but those who work hard can be equally good or even better; especially when the naturals tend to rest on their laurels.
/r/seduction03/08/12 01:47 AM
2

No worries, hang around, read /r/askseddit, and just start to think about the techniques that are suited towards your personality.
/r/seduction02/08/12 04:45 PM
2

It has the added benefit of foreplay without the work. She's getting excited just imagining what's going to come next... building anticipation is huge. But you don't want to drag it out... build, act, build, act. Why do women like love stories so much? Anticipation. They know that, at some point, the couple will become romantic. That part is a certainty. It is the buildup, the tension, the interplay -- that's what really generates and multiplies attraction. You don't need to be as brash as the O…
/r/seduction02/08/12 07:21 AM
4

The distinction between an AFC and a PUA is this: A PUA never appears desperate, because he isn't. AFCs look desperate because they have an emotional stake in their initial interaction with women. Do people feel rejected or shot down when Powerpoint crashes? No, they just learn from their mistake, restart it, and try again.
/r/seduction02/08/12 07:14 AM
3

it simply says what it must I'm no writer, but I know the truth when I see it. Rock on, brother Beavis. Rock on.
/r/seduction02/08/12 07:10 AM
12

This basic idea is actually a useful exercise, when you intentionally blow yourself out and try to recover. Great practice for those little flubs that happen naturally in normal game.
/r/seduction31/07/12 05:08 PM
4

"Practicing your Korean" is the perfect way to open and close. I've used this method for years, and it's been a consistent winner for me. Sometimes it takes a little longer, but damn, it's so fucking nice when everything goes smoothly.
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:37 PM
2

Wow, my experience has been totally opposite of that. My previous K-girls have always liked my more masculine / American appearance. I'm not built/muscular, but tall/lean, darker features -- the huge bonus was having somewhat curly hair. Every single one loved that.
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:36 PM
3

Oddly enough, when I was in Japan for a week, most of the girls (4) that I went out with were non-Japanese. The one Japanese girl I did go out with, was totally desperate for a foreign husband. So much so, that she out of the blue took a vacation to Washington D.C., where I live, and asked if I could show her around... basically her entire intent was to make me her husband. Tried to guilt trip me because she spent a ton of money on the trip, and I didn't even ask her to come... agh. I like Japan…
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:34 PM
5

I hear from my Korean girl friends that Itaewon girls are generally "sluts" and low class. Even regular K-girls will date a white guy, you just have to mind the social order and isolate her if you want any special activities. When in public, you're "friends" only. In private, go nuts.
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:30 PM
23

100% this. I've almost exclusively dated Koreans / Chinese / Japanese, and all 3 require social isolation before they'll play. No PDA at all, not even like holding hands or kino. I was trying to kino a K-girl once while we were walking in a park, and she complained that she didn't like to be touched "in public". So we went back to her place and she ripped my clothes off. Society is everything, they are still women.
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:28 PM
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Brazilians think we (Americans) are prudes -- I spoke to several women while in brazil about this very topic, and all said that they prefer to have sex with a guy as early as possible, even if he's boyfriend material -- this ensures that the sexual chemistry will be good before wasting a bunch of time in a "relationship". This is the primary reason I like seduction techniques -- it speeds up the time-to-fuck (TTF) significantly. Even if it ends up an LTR, you at least know you're going to have s…
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:25 PM
4

This comment needs way more attention. Do not get oneitis, its a major time-mind-fuck.
/r/seduction15/07/12 11:44 AM
2

i jizzed within 30 seconds my first time... awkward.
/r/seduction15/07/12 02:48 AM
3

Great points were already made in this thread, but I want to re-iterate one point that is absolutely critical: The quality and quantity of women you meet after college goes down very sharply. College is the most concentrated source of attractive and intelligent women you'll ever find. Second point: Talk to the most attractive girls (you define attraction) -- chances are that they are almost never approached by quality guys, because guys are too shy to approach. I don't know how many times I've t…
/r/seduction13/07/12 05:52 PM
3

Okay... that's making us feel much better.
/r/seduction13/07/12 05:43 PM
1

I read this as " I think you are cute, but Because I am in a relationship, you could have any other girl in here."
/r/seduction03/07/12 03:46 PM
10

TL;DR: TL;DR
/r/seduction03/07/12 03:44 PM
2

Some of the bull dykes can be pretty intimidating.
/r/seduction29/06/12 02:45 PM
2

"Last night I went out with a cinder block as my wingman. He just fucking sat there the whole time, looking stiff and just generally not doing anything. He didn't drink at all, making me look like an alcoholic douchebag. When I'd approach women, they'd take one look at the cinder block and walk away. I tried to open sets with him, but people just started screaming and bleeding all over the place. Any thoughts?" Seriously, don't take him out when you're picking up women. Find a fellow guy around …
/r/seduction27/06/12 12:49 PM
1

Its not about digestion, it is about the increase in blood sugars, which happens within the first hour or so following consumption.
/r/seduction26/06/12 12:16 AM
1

Why is Christopher Walken so famous? Why is Hunter S. Thompson so infamous? Hint: It's not their charming good looks. Guys like this epitomize the attitude that we're trying to convey here -- be the best and most interesting version of yourself. This applies to every message you convey to the outside world: Sight: Dress well, carry yourself well, and smile. Your best bet for clothing is "loose formal" (example) Sound: Women love deep and sonorous voices. Pacing yourself when speaking builds tens…
/r/seduction25/06/12 05:39 PM
2

Valid point.
/r/seduction19/06/12 04:56 PM
9

Actually, I agree completely with you -- even though you knew this post was going to be contentious. Allow me to expand for just a moment while I'm eating my breakfast. I like to use metaphors, so bear with me. In baseball, hitting a homerun is part of the game. It's an exciting part of the game yes, but I've never heard anyone say "I love baseball just because of the homeruns". I'd wager that most guys here, even the most crass one-night-standers, still find some emotional and personal connecti…
/r/seduction18/06/12 12:49 PM
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I'm also impressed by the way you held to your morals. Not something you hear about very often on this subreddit. Come on, that's a bit of a potshot and an unfair implication. It is absolutely true that morals aren't discussed in this subreddit, but it's not because "we" lack them, it's because this community does not dictate what your morals should be. If we wanted that, we'd be in /r/religion. So, while your comments are welcome, don't expect to find a warm reception for implying that we might…
/r/seduction18/06/12 04:51 AM
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Great FR! Keep it up, feel free to post your other FRs. It's the little details and your logic behind them that really help. Imagine that only 5 guys might comment, but 90 are reading this thinking.. "holy shit, I can do this."
/r/seduction18/06/12 04:29 AM
6

The universal opener: "Hi!"
/r/seduction18/06/12 04:12 AM
10

Is your name "Joey"? haha.. this sounds like a friends episode. Even worse is when you get back to her place, and you remember fucking in her apartment, but you can't remember her... until her roommate walks in...
/r/seduction18/06/12 04:10 AM
1

Had the rare double load yesterday, I was cised about that.
/r/seduction15/06/12 12:37 PM
5

I agree with everything except your very last phrase: "but if they continually mention their boyfriends, they're probably not looking to get out." In my experience, this is exactly the sign that they want out -- but it depends on the context. I never, ever, ask about boyfriends or relationship status. It's irrelevant to me. So if a girl brings it up, it's one of two things: A legit "back off", which would be accompanied by associated body language (crossed arms, turning away, no eye contact, sig…
/r/seduction14/06/12 05:06 PM
10

Just like fapping, it gets easier the more you do it... wait, that's a bad example. Practice makes perfect -- keep talking to people, the more you get outside of your comfort zone and inside theirs, the more comfortable you'll be in the longer term.
/r/seduction14/06/12 04:57 PM
1

Well, my advice is to reveal as little personal information as possible, down to using a fake name or pickup name. No need to lie, per se, just be obscure...one red flag for me is if they live alone or have no friends. Use a google voice number, rather than your real number. Good luck.
/r/seduction13/06/12 01:05 PM
8

| She'll lose energy eventually. 3 years with my dick-in-crazy, still going strong. 2-3 emails per week now, down from an all-time high of 100 e-mails in one day. one hundred. fucking. emails. No. I've desperately tried to get her to date other guys, "I only want you." "no-one is like you" (retarded enough to have sex with you once? yeah, true). She's got a new roommate now, that's taking the pressure off me... poor roommate. She doesn't know what she's in for...
/r/seduction12/06/12 07:03 AM
13

That's called marriage, friend.
/r/seduction12/06/12 07:01 AM
23

This... this... this... this... this... As someone who is still unwinding a crazy from 3 fucking years ago, this. Crazy girl will: remember every. single. detail. you ever told her. She will threaten you in one message, and apologize in the next She will tell you just random inane shit, then somehow at the end of it make it your "fault" She will not contact you for a week, just to let you think you're off the hook, then a metric fuckton hurricane of shit clogging up your internets. She will ask …
/r/seduction12/06/12 06:59 AM
1

I wonder which book she's talking about, because the Feynman book isn't exactly fiction; and it was exceedingly obvious what it was about Feynman... given the title and all. Men who try to understand and simplify quantum mechanics are suited to doing the same with women, because they are similar in their vagaries and difficulty.
/r/seduction11/06/12 05:56 PM
1

Same here... I've never been to a dance class where it was just single girls hanging around... almost always "couples".
/r/seduction11/06/12 04:36 PM
21

| Girls know you dance like you fuck. Slow, awkward, and get tired before the first song is over? Sounds about right.
/r/seduction11/06/12 04:35 PM
6

When everything looks the bleakest and the darkest, there's only one way to go: Up.
/r/seduction11/06/12 04:34 PM
2

Damnit... there must be more than one of us.
/r/seduction11/06/12 04:24 PM
2

Did he really advocate something like this? Dear God. The top comment nails my feelings on the issue. It's one thing to say these things, it's another to do them. Don't pretend to be better -- Be better.
/r/seduction06/06/12 04:44 PM
2

Valid point, thanks for clarifying.
/r/seduction05/06/12 03:46 PM
1

Sigh, this is only true in the case of extremely shallow women. I have dated extremely attractive women and they were happy to be seen with me, because I felt confident when I was with them. Other guys would give me nods and thumbs up, and a few scowls.. so, it is really that outward confidence/self assuredness that is critical.
/r/seduction05/06/12 03:45 PM
6

Welcome to seddit, where traditionally "ugly" guys (like me) get laid regularly without having to rely on attraction as their only tool.
/r/seduction04/06/12 11:20 PM
18

It's the "beta" effect. Beta thinkers automatically assume that he had success due to his attractiveness, and gave zero respect to his skill.
/r/seduction04/06/12 11:19 PM
5

"Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement." Never be afraid to make mistakes. Drop the flakes. Don't step on rakes... nevermind.
/r/seduction31/05/12 05:49 PM
9

Make use of the 3 second rule -- within three seconds of a girl noticing you, you should open with at least a smile or a "hi". This helps break the ice, and eliminates the "hey I'm creepy sitting here thinking about how to pluck up the courage to say something to you." Girls aren't dumb. If they think they're hot, then they assume that every guy wants to talk to them. Final comment: If you want something you have to ask for it. No one is going to give you a banana if you just stand near some ban…
/r/seduction25/05/12 06:00 PM
2

I wish I could move this to the outside comment.
/r/seduction24/05/12 12:49 AM
2

Interesting, I'm in the middle of putting together a 100 opener challenge for seddit. The short version is to open 100 attractive women in one week. No other requirements except that she has to respond in a meaningful way in order for it to count. The goal will be to force yourself to get comfortable opening women. I'll be posting details on the main board in a couple of days -- busy weekend ahead.
/r/seduction19/05/12 02:04 AM
1

Agreed. That's actually what I meant when I said "here's my cell number too".
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:59 PM
0

It really depends on the situation. If you're in a business type setting, giving a card signals her to give you one as well. You can edge it up a little by saying here's my cell number also -- let's meet up for drinks later. I haven't done this yet, but I'm considering going to one of those sites that gives you free business cards, and making one just for pickup purposes. Anyone do this?
/r/seduction17/05/12 03:51 PM
1

Brings new meaning to "cocky-funny"... I kept looking for tells that this might be fake, such as excessive details, but it sounds more-or-less legit. Question: were you thinking "I can't wait to post this on seddit?"
/r/seduction09/05/12 04:41 PM
0

my philosophy on apologizing is that I only do it if I have done something actually wrong. I used to be an apologizer at nearly a canadian level, but I learned that it is stupid to apologize for things that have nothing to do with you. Also, one should never, ever, apologize for their sexual feelings toward a woman.
/r/seduction08/05/12 01:56 PM
2

I'd never say "sorry" to a girl, personally -- but your approach to laughing it off and staying in state is the way to do it.
/r/seduction07/05/12 09:53 PM
3

Nice -- this is exactly how it's done. As soon as you hear "but I have a boyfriend", and she doesn't walk away, you're golden. Also, the fact that you typed this all out on an Ipad makes me respect you even more.
/r/seduction07/05/12 03:41 PM
0

Er, don't you have all of her information right in front of you? :) A friend of mine ended up dating / marrying his bank teller.
/r/seduction04/05/12 05:23 PM
6

Normally I approach lists with skepticism, and that was no different here. However, I was nodding along with most of these. I'd mix 2 and 3 together, it gets harder, and because of that sometimes you will doubt whether the thing you're becoming is actually real. Especially when it's so effective. My only addition is to take a break if you feel like you're getting out of control. I know guys who have seriously overdone it and become borderline rapists in the process. They started as "nice guys" a…
/r/seduction25/04/12 06:14 PM
1

Just a casual observation, if he's the "AMOG" and this easily discombobulated, I'd say he's not really alpha at all... An alpha would never been in that situation to begin with. I think you're confusing Alpha with "big" or "loud".
/r/seduction10/04/12 01:48 AM
4

It's interesting from a social psychology point of view. I don't see the point of crashing seminars for pickup, but conferences are a completely different story. I've been to many tech/science conferences and the thing that always surprises me is the lack of security. Some of these are $400+ per person to attend. Dressing one click above the rest of the crowd, name tag with a lanyard, carrying a briefcase, having a distracted hurried look -- won't give the security guards time to even look close…
/r/seduction16/02/12 04:28 PM
2

It's a repost from someone who is not me -- sorry, should have made that abundantly clear.
/r/seduction09/02/12 04:59 PM
1

It's pretty rare that I get blatantly shot down, mostly because I never use "canned" openers, except the tried and true "Hi, my name is Nom." Basically as long as you're non-creepy/non-sexual in your opening, she's got no basis for shooting you down.
/r/seduction08/02/12 07:01 PM
1

For me it's the anxiety of dealing with a whole new round of bullshit. Right now, I'm sitting across from a pretty cute Asian girl. I would have zero problem opening, she's sending out IoIs, playing with her hair, looking up at me occasionally. The truth is that I really don't want to talk to her. I'm dealing with enough girls as it is... I'm simply "full".
/r/seduction08/02/12 06:59 PM
3

Yes, you're right. My point stands -- if they're busy the next day, then you shouldn't try for an immediate f-close.
/r/seduction03/02/12 08:45 PM
6

I think one or two beers is usually enough, you definitely don't want to be drunk or have super beer breath. Out of curiousity, did the 40 y.o. contact you?
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:56 PM
1

Classic! I'm not impressed with the term "ratified" I keep thinking about the constitution, but I got the idea of what you meant. It's a really a series of push and pull. You opened hard, you were consistent with your attitude, and you didn't give a fuck at all -- but you sure as hell got one, right? haha
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:51 PM
4

Watched the movie 50/50, that's a pickup line he uses.
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:23 PM
4

There are two types of silence, engaged and disinterested. I've experienced both, but it's important to tell the difference. Engaged silence, as the OP describes is when you've already built attraction and rapport, and she's into you. Silence builds mystery. I never "give away" personal information without receiving more in return. Many many times I hear "Gosh, I've told you so much about me, and I don't know anything about you!" The mysterious smile is a clencher in these cases. Disinterested s…
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:19 PM
7

This is an important point: if you're planning on f-closing, you definitely want to stack the probabilities in your favor. Picking a holiday or weekend where the following day the HB will probably have nothing to do decreases the chance that she'll bail due to previous engagements.
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:09 PM
3

This was also featured in Neil Strauss' The Game, IIRC. Here's a goofy but interesting field report on Apoc Opener TL;DR -- it's great for instant attraction, but there's no comfort. If you're remotely creepy, this will definitely fail, so your social proof has to be massive before you try this.
/r/seduction03/02/12 04:07 PM
3

The key here is social proof. If the women see you're friends with the staff, they'll see that as a validation that you're not some random creeper.
/r/seduction26/01/12 11:19 PM
2

So I read through all of the stuff you posted in this thread. I sense that your breakthrough is much more about inner game, which is critical. However, there's no reason you can't use some of the knowledge from the PUA community, especially with regard to closing. Two comments come to mind: Do you really care if she has a b/f? I mean it's admirable that you respect that, but it's been my experience that some women will use that line as a shit test rather than a rejection. With the abundance ment…
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:43 PM
2

I've never used the direct approach like this before, but it's pretty good for two reasons. In fact, I would approach the comelier of the two girls and deliver the line. Then turn to the hottie and say "Your friend is gorgeous,..." This does two things, it drops the uglier one's bitch shield, and makes the hotter one think "wtf, he's saying that to her?"
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:22 PM
5

If you're not going to constructively criticize, you have no purpose here. If he's being narcissistic, give specific examples and suggest what might work better towards a positive outcome.
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:19 PM
1

I wish. No, I mean generally unkempt. when I wash my hair, I don't add anything to it, it curls up nicely and looks pretty good. The next day, however, it's destroyed by pillow action and overnight slobbering.
/r/seduction23/12/11 06:06 PM
1

You're right. I'm a scientist by trade, so I tend to overthink things way more than usual. So when it comes to "technique" I've got it down solid, but you're right -- "flow" is definitely the next step -- when it's an integral part of my personality and I don't have to think about anything, just do it.
/r/seduction22/12/11 09:36 PM
3

Rather than attribute it to some mythical omniscient figure, I think our appearance attracts the "fixer-uppers". These women see men who appear to be slightly disheveled, but with a lot of potential for being a great boyfriend after some work. This is not unlike a guy who sees an old Opel GT and imagines that he can fix it up and get it running better than new. Sometimes it works.
/r/seduction22/12/11 01:34 PM
7

For classier women, I've had the best success at hotel bars, especially when a conference is going on. Brick-and-Mortar Bookstores are a very good second if you like the more bookish types. Don't neglect the romance section. =) Keep it light, fun, and smart -- don't buy too many drinks (supplicating), try to keep it even. Typical rules apply: kino, rapport, etc. Keep the compliments to a minimum, but if you do, compliment her choices, not her appearance. Example, "these earrings keep catching my…
/r/seduction19/12/11 06:59 PM
13

The next level of enlightenment is when you no longer require validation to support your fragile ego. I don't mean this in an insulting way, you're still building your sexual identity. Once you've mastered the art, you will be able to control sexuality as the river controls water. Without water, there is no river; but without the river, there is no form. You are water without form. Become the river.
/r/seduction11/12/11 10:13 PM
1

Can you edit this to be more specific about what you're talking about? I have an idea that you might be talking about using a "pickup name", such as Joey in Friends used the name "Ken Adams" -- and there's certainly some psychology behind names. This is why certain famous people change their names, to be more "interesting". "Gordon Sumner" doesn't have quite the same feeling as "Sting" when introducing yourself to someone.
/r/seduction17/11/11 08:21 PM
1

A cop pulled me over once, and I asked him "why did you stop me, and not the other guy who was going faster?" His reply, "The lion doesn't care who he eats, as long as he gets to eat." Key point: Always be on your game, and you'll get to eat, one way or another. Maybe not steak, but sometimes pasta hits the spot.
/r/seduction17/11/11 07:22 PM
3

Always bring/have condoms available. Not that they protect against everything, they can frequently make the difference between getting laid or not. There have a been a few times where surprise sex was available and I had to say no because neither she nor I had condoms. Women: Keep a supply of condoms handy, just in case -- nothing embarrassing about safe sex.
/r/seduction17/11/11 07:17 PM
2

Eh, I just read through about 60 of his posts. I don't really see any public issue. He seems to be actually doing his "job" as a moderator. I prefer a quality subreddit with relevant posts instead of a bunch of junk. If this requires a heavy hand, so be it.
/r/seduction03/11/11 03:07 AM
1

This, sir, is the power of The Game and the culmination of failures, probably epic ones, and lots and lots of self-doubt, pity, and generally feeling like a loser. This, also, is the end of all that negative shit. The curtain has been pulled from your eyes, and now you can see what we see. Welcome to a new world, my friend.
/r/seduction25/10/11 02:38 PM
2

It's certainly easy to let it get out of control. With great power comes great responsibility. I made a few mistakes early on, but realized in the long run, it wasn't worth it.
/r/seduction20/10/11 03:41 PM
7

While this may be true, I'm not a homewrecker. Much.
/r/seduction20/10/11 03:13 AM
39

Well, yep, it's happened to me before too. In fact, it still comes back to bite me occasionally. Recently I happened to meet a girl I knew in grad school, super cute / sexy, DTF, and incredibly smart. She usually had a boyfriend, so I was content just to be friends, hang out, play soccer, etc. She's married now, etc., so I had no desire to mess around with that... but she asked me to dinner, and I accepted. During the course of our conversation at dinner she says "So, nomdeanon, how come you nev…
/r/seduction19/10/11 06:46 PM
1

This essay by Emerson has changed my thinking, and when I find myself reverting to beta status, I re-read this. It's a life changer. Favorite passage: "What I must do is all that concerns me, not what the people think. This rule, equally arduous in actual and in intellectual life, may serve for the whole distinction between greatness and meanness. It is the harder, because you will always find those who think they know what is your duty better than you know it. It is easy in the world to live af…
/r/seduction06/10/11 08:15 PM
15

"Experience comes from bad judgement, good judgement comes from experience." -- Mark Twain. I'm still gaining experience.
/r/seduction06/10/11 08:10 PM
2

There's no need to overthink it -- try escalating physically. Sit closer to her, playfully punch or tease her (friendly), get her to talk about things that are important to her or something that's bothering her, and comfort her with your hands, but don't stare at her while doing this. I usually sort of look away wistfully and pat her on the back or rub her arm a little. Basically you want to get into the routine where it's normal for you to be touching her. If she's touching you back and not cri…
/r/seduction06/10/11 08:08 PM
3

I think it's called Starbucks.
/r/seduction21/09/11 04:07 PM
1

The only time I'm on a mac is when I'm using it as a footstool.
/r/seduction20/09/11 10:46 PM
2

Motley Crue, "Kickstart my Heart" (live: Decade of Decadence). note: too lazy to umlaut.
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:05 PM
0

Don't be intimidating. A woman wearing a "little black dress", lots of jewelry, carrying an expensive purse and wearing expensive shoes, hair nicely done, etc... screams "high maintenance" and I won't go anywhere near that woman. Also, if you're with a group of friends and you catch a guy's eye go off by yourself for a little bit and see if he comes over. Guys will approach you, you just have to lower their anxiety a little bit. If all else fails, feel free to approach a guy. "Hi, my name is n13…
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:37 PM
1

I've dated indian girls like this, but have yet to date a middle eastern girl. They're very concerned about what their parents think, and it's hard to separate them from their friends / family / really nosy brother, etc.
/r/seduction19/09/11 10:43 PM
1

I'm confused by the bullet point... But your message is correct. Kino is probably going to be a no-no, at least until you find out how conservative she is, and even then, you're limited to private / semi-private locations where you can test out a few moves. I'd start with the playful punch, the comforting touch (hand on shoulder, etc.), and maybe palm reading type stuff.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:35 PM
1

Just ask women if they want to touch your Kirpan, when they look shocked, whip it out and show them it's just a ceremonial dagger. That'll open things up. Joking aside, you'll have to spend time around universities... this is where you're most likely to see open minded women your age. Put yourself in situations where your personality can really show off first, such as meetups, group hobbies/sports, etc.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:30 PM
1

I daresay the solar system, but clearly not the universe.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:27 PM
7

In fact you should never even discuss something a woman has no control over, unless she has broached the subject already. For example, I met a very short girl 4'10" recently, and I didn't make a single comment about her height. However, once she started making fun of herself, I definitely jumped in about how it sucks to be tall. Weight is almost always off limits, even if she's "perfect".
/r/seduction19/09/11 03:58 PM
2

Ignore him, I thought you wrote just fine. I'm not sure what he thought was "douchey" (not even a word). It's a good FR, but I would recommend that you focus more on the techniques and her responses and less on bragging (no offense at all, we're all happy for you, but this is for science!!)
/r/seduction16/09/11 04:34 PM
1

I'm 36, she's 20+/-1 (not sure, said she's a junior).
/r/seduction15/09/11 12:43 PM
1

Yep, thanks for this comment reminding people of this. Hopefully other lurkers will feel encouraged to post.
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:31 AM
3

I agree with dwreckk - but I'll add the second possibility that he's in a relationship already, and is having a difficult time juggling his time to hang out with you and maintain his current relationship.
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:27 AM
5

Even if you're going to do that, at least be a man and say "tits or gtfo".
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:25 AM
3

This is normal in the process -- you have to learn how to be genuine and honest about what you're doing. If things start to get even slightly serious, I would simply say "I can never be your boyfriend -- I'm just not that kind of guy." Unfortunately this occasionally has a reverse psychology effect which makes them want you even more.
/r/seduction13/09/11 12:27 PM
7

I didn't read the article, but I'd say phrasing anything as a "date" stacks the deck against you. I haven't been on a "date" in the past 10 years, but have been with many women. I always phrase things as a "meeting". The word "date" invokes far too many rules, many of which are unwritten, and sets really high expectations for the guy.
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:55 PM
1

Good point, let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:52 PM
1

I'd wager I could get such a person a girlfriend. Quadriplegics are more challenging, unless they're named "Matt".
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:50 PM
1

Talk to everyone you meet. Fat old guys, stupid bitches, cashiers, everyone. Ask them to tell you a story. Lately, for fun, I've been walking around Ikea just talking to random people. It's the perfect environment for opening, women have no idea that a guy would try to pick them up in Ikea. Plus there are 3 billion potential openers, start with the item that they are looking at "I bought one of those awhile ago, it's now in two pieces. Definitely a good buy, two-for-one." "This place is a maze..…
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:48 PM
2

So I read this "mid-twenties, successful" and skipped all the rest of the feeling sorry for yourself bullshit. This is precisely what you will learn here, even if it takes you 10 years, you will finally come to a point when you realize that everything you said after those two words is utter bullshit. Here's why: Seduction is all about confidence, action, and follow-through. Step 1 is obtaining confidence. Confidence comes from two primary sources: (1) faking it, and (2) experience. I started by …
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:44 PM
26

I really think you're the one being gamed here. She's selling you a car.
/r/seduction29/08/11 05:36 PM
1

I agree. Askseddit is fine, but all of us are still learning and evolving. So it would be nice to merge the two once again. Its almost like askseddit is for AFCs and seduction is for the PUAs.
/r/seduction16/08/11 03:52 AM
1

Seinfeld does not go far in seduction, but I think that was your point, no?
/r/seduction15/08/11 05:59 PM
6

So much this. I wish I could see this at 23. Maybe I did, but I just ignored it, thinking I had plenty of time. IF you're in your early 20s, alone, gaming, fapping, few friends, watching Xena re-runs or anime all the time... then read what c_razzamatazz wrote, and fucking do it. Seriously.
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:55 PM
3

And, it opens you to an entire other group of people that was otherwise closed off to you. E.g., learning Chinese: "hey HB7, I need help with my Chinese, can you help me?" Works like a charm.
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:47 PM
5

I posted awhile back about story telling, and people sort of poo-pooed it the notion. I think it is critical to have a "story arc" in your life, where you can draw from the elements of it when necessary. This story arc has the following characteristics: (1) Optimism. No-one likes a pessimist. (2) Drama. Not the baby-momma type drama, but dramatic things are happening around you. (3) Control. Stories that show you're the man. (4) Self-assured. You don't need other people's validation, you validat…
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:45 PM
11

before we part ways for the night. What the actual non-fuck? I think you may have messed this one up. Clearly she was into you. Clearly she's a dirty dirty girl. Clearly she was DTF. I'd bet she is wondering what is wrong with you. Here's how I imagine this conversation might go...
/r/seduction30/07/11 06:05 AM
1

It's not made up in this case, but I feel what you're saying. Thanks for the comment.
/r/seduction29/07/11 01:40 AM
1

Cool, I'll definitely check it out. Thanks.
/r/seduction29/07/11 01:39 AM
2

911 cuz she's on FIRE!!
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:40 PM
1

Oh, and good job on that e-mail close...thats not creepy at all. Thanks! I'm meeting her in about an hour. Visiting Vancouver, BC, what a great city for day game. Cute girls everywhere.
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:15 PM
1

Yeah, look, the rating scale is only useful for when describing your experience to other guys after the situation has occurred (i.e., the next day, etc.). If you're sitting at a bar with your buddy, and you're all like "she's a 613" or she's a "911, but i'd still fuck her." ... that's creepy douchey construction-worker mentality. Just go fucking talk to everyone. I did this in a starbucks yesterday, just talking to people in line, waiting for coffee, etc. ended up e-mail closing with a pretty cu…
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:53 PM
20

So, keep asking that question over and over again? Sounds like it could work -- relevant. Joking aside, NLP can only go so far. Just because she feels the emotion, doesn't mean she's feeling it for you. Maybe it reminds her of some past guy, who she is now thinking about. So the timing of these types of questions is important.
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:32 PM
1

Eh, not so sure... maybe she's just getting off work? It's not clear, but also irrelevant. If you're not physically next to each other, being DTF is totally useless.
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:21 PM
1

Actually his fail was after getting the number. He should have immediately said "fantastic, I'll give you a text and we'll set it up. Cheers!" and gave her a quick hug.
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:19 PM
5

Interview mode FTL.
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:17 PM
2

/r/circlejerk is that way --> Seriously, of course we've all experienced this -- none of us would be here. Look, you've still got an opportunity to escalate and make your move. Read the other comments here and links.
/r/seduction28/07/11 04:14 PM
0

Yes, let's encourage our children to look to our elected officials as role models. That'll fix 'em.
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:33 AM
1

I think this would work with the right kind of girl in the right kind of situation: on a train, in Vienna, with a sickly looking french girl.
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:28 AM
2

I think the takeaway here is not to pretend to be like Russell Brand, but to be passionate and confident about yourself, your opinions, your life, your goals, your future, your desires. Be your own man, and own it. Take pride in your job, your lifestyle. Women are attracted to men who are passionate about something, even if it's little bit odd/dorky... Show them you are having a blast at being you, that you have goals, you're damn happy with the way things are going... I can't tell you how many …
/r/seduction28/07/11 05:15 AM
2

Great job. Success is a combination of preparation, perspiration, and some other word that begins with p that means luck. Sounds like you hit all 3.
/r/seduction18/07/11 05:02 PM
2

Home sweet home! While I was being facetious in my original comment, it does actually work on girls who have no interest in LTRs, but who are looking to you for validation.
/r/seduction14/07/11 11:32 AM
0

ಠ_ಠ Let me say this as clearly as possible: Oneitis: Obsessively going after a girl who has no interest in you, and you have no hope of gaining her affections. What I'm talking about: Significantly increasing your chances of meeting and dating a girl that is an HB9/10 that would have never talked to you before you learned the techniques we talk about in here. Stick around and keep reading. Welcome to /r/seduction.
/r/seduction14/07/11 11:31 AM
6

Same: I was LJBF within a week, and no phone calls/e-mails within a month. It's fantastic.
/r/seduction13/07/11 11:37 PM
1

Did you read what RedErin wrote? By implication he/she implies that seddit is about getting more than one girl. My retort is while that may be true, it is incredibly helpful for precisely the opposite: getting that one girl. The one that was previously unattainable because you had no game.
/r/seduction13/07/11 11:35 PM
24

tell her that you love her, that'll solve this problem real fast.
/r/seduction13/07/11 03:54 PM
10

I'll politely disagree. Seduction may teach you how to bed many women, but it also teaches you how to attract *quality * women more successfully and consistently. Armed with the knowledge imparted here, it is no longer luck that determines your next long term relationship, now you are the captain of your ship! Ask some of the moderators whether or not they have had better quality LTRs after learning seduction.
/r/seduction13/07/11 03:52 PM
2

If a girl is touching you in any way that shows interest, that is your cue that you need to physically escalate AND disqualify yourself at some point. If she shows LMR, take a step back and talk to her about deeper meaning topics. Escalate physically after she seems comfortable. Repeat.
/r/seduction12/07/11 11:28 AM
13

Yeah, this is a critical point and deserves more attention. If she feels threatened or unsafe in the situation, she might just be going along with it out of fear or discomfort of saying no. That can easily turn to sexual assault... however, the OP did the right thing, backing off when she said no, but going deeper with the rapport and comfort building. However, I hate having to reassure them that they arent sluts... every. single. time.. "do you think i'm a slut?" "yeah, pretty much."
/r/seduction12/07/11 03:26 AM
2

3 out of 5 Japanese women make such sounds during sex. (Sample size: 5).
/r/seduction11/07/11 03:34 PM
1

Now that I think about it, this could be a shit test -- just to see how you respond. i.e., If you're really interested, you'll try a little harder... I've only had 4.5 japanese girls (one was half japanese, half korean, full crazy). Tofutofu can certainly help better here from the cultural perspective.
/r/seduction09/07/11 05:26 AM
2

Thats the best way to get shot down, imho.
/r/seduction09/07/11 03:55 AM
2

This. Good lord and some of them are pure psycho, but you won't find out until after you've slept with them. How do you get rid of the bad ones?
/r/seduction09/07/11 03:50 AM
2

I'll have to disagree... it was poorly worded for what it could have been trying to achieve, and the responses were just idiotic in most cases.
/r/seduction02/07/11 12:07 AM
-6

This exercise/game feels very beta/AFC -- because you're not focusing on the real purpose of the eliciting a reaction: building attraction and, eventually rapport. All flashy things, whether pickup lines, reactionary statements, neg hits, etc. are to be immediately followed up by some sort of DHV to build attraction. Too much flash, and you're quickly a dork (at best). Flash with no followup makes you look like an idiot. If you have to use more than one reaction-inducing action/statement, on a g…
/r/seduction01/07/11 05:37 AM
3

You wrote: "I can't think of any reason someone would have a separate Seddit posting ID unless they were trying to hide their philandering " This is exactly the same as saying "I can't think of any reason why someone would <value their privacy> unless they were trying to hide <illegal / immoral activity>". Good day, sir.
/r/seduction30/06/11 07:08 PM
2

"If you're not doing anything illegal, there's no reason for privacy." ?
/r/seduction30/06/11 03:21 PM
5

The nice thing about reddit is that you get to be an asshole to whomever you want. The best thing about reddit is that no-one has to read it when it crosses the downvote threshold.
/r/seduction30/06/11 01:57 PM
2

Adding to what DesignMyself has said: It's important to know the cultural distinctions for the country that you're in. Body language may be different than what you think, so an IOI in one country might be just "friendliness" in another. I guess what I'm saying is "pay attention". Otherwise, the basic rules apply. DHV and Kino are almost universal. Neg hits may completely backfire, especially if you're viewed as a foreigner. Being respectful of culture, language, and food will take you a very lon…
/r/seduction27/06/11 06:07 PM
3

Rule #1 of The Game: DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR FEELINGS, EVER. The truth is you've probably waited way too long to show any feelings, and it sounds like you're firmly in Let's Just Be Friends land. Ignore the guys who are beating you up, but you have to realize that if you're interested in a girl sexually, you have to move rapidly to establish yourself in that role, rather than "a nice guy" or "good friend". I've known guys who can get out of LJBF-land, but you'd have to have physical access to …
/r/seduction27/06/11 06:01 PM
2

Just to be clear, I didn't say that you overdo it, I don't know you. I'm just concerned that an AFC will see this and overdo it. I agree that it is good to be aware of your body language and what messages you're sending with crossed arms, looking down, etc... try to correct those weak/submissive postures, instead adopt a more open and confident posture that fits your body style and optimum personality (the personality you have when you're completely in state). Real life example: The president is…
/r/seduction27/06/11 05:54 PM
2

No, it's not. It's like saying "I will use this drill because I'm not afraid of it." Inner game isn't "I'm a sex god who can fuck any woman I want to." That's not what seduction is about, imho. Inner game: "I am my own man. I control my life completely. I live by my rules. I'm confident in myself and my abilities. Women want to be around me because of I am these things."
/r/seduction27/06/11 05:47 PM
1

Body language is important, but one must not force it or overdo it. You must look natural, otherwise it's like watching Jim Carrey -- it might be funny, but how many women do you know have said "I'd love to bang Jim Carrey?"
/r/seduction27/06/11 05:44 PM
1

Agreed, cocky and funny... although I've tried the "complete asshole" technique before, it only works on the really weak minded ones, who are borderline masochistic.
/r/seduction27/06/11 05:40 PM
21

I've been through the phase that you're describing. I think all PUA's at some point go through that phase. The key point of getting out of it was, for me, to un-game myself. I intentionally dressed shoddily / nerd-like, wouldn't put myself in locations where it was easy to meet women, I even deleted all of the phone numbers in my phone, deleted all of my female e-mail contacts -- when they'd call, I'd say I have a girlfriend now (didn't). Basically turned into a forever alone for about 3 months.…
/r/seduction19/06/11 01:40 PM
3

Well, it sounds like you're probably 17 or 18, right? Relax a little. Chances are that if you're "weird" and the girl still wants to kiss you, you're not as weird as you think. First "date" end: You: "I had a great time!" her:"Yeah, me too!" Then go for the hug (as a reward for her positive response). If she lingers, even for a moment, seal it with a kiss (no tongue, unless she prolongs the kiss or tongues you). Also, never, ever, ever apologize for your feelings, even if she backs off. Laugh it…
/r/seduction15/06/11 07:02 PM
2

Next time I'm in Tokyo (answers my previous question), I'm definitely looking you up for suggestions about where to go. Last time in Tokyo, I spent most of my time in the wrong places (90% salarymen) because I had no idea where to go. I managed to get a few off craigslist, but they weren't that cute. However, my Japanese is non-existent, so I don't have a lot of game.
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:50 PM
3

5'10"?
/r/seduction10/06/11 06:38 PM
1

I agree it is usually either a shit test or "omg did I just get a fucking disease?"
/r/seduction08/06/11 07:10 PM
1

Execllent FR! Have fun. :)
/r/seduction08/06/11 06:56 PM
3

And why are you trying to tell me what i like? ... I did no such thing. I generalized to women, not you specifically. The problem with clueless men is that they would often rather give up vs. being shot down for being clueless. We are changing this, one guy at a time. The only thing I can point to is the success of this idea, prior to learning the Game, getting a girlfriend was typically "luck". After some practice, I could successfully approach attractive women with confidence and much success.…
/r/seduction08/06/11 06:49 PM
13

Is wearing makeup manipulation? How about wearing a little black dress, a low cut shirt, an enhancing bra? No. You're displaying your "femininity" in a way designed to maximize attraction. Of course, you don't rationalize it in this way to yourself, but it is important if you want to increase your attractiveness. Just as very few guys likes a girl with greasy hair, acne face, fat, lazy, wearing sweatpants and flip-flops; you'll readily admit that men who are confident, well dressed, assertive, a…
/r/seduction08/06/11 03:27 PM
6

Actually, it's less than that according to the way it is worded. You have a 33% chance that they'll pick the right coin, and on top of that, a 50% chance it will be heads or tails. 50% x 33% = approximately a 17% chance of guessing it. There's gotta be a way to increase those odds through suggestion or other trickery. Nevertheless, the whole purpose of magic tricks and other such types of openers is that it significantly reduces the "creep detector". Because you're approaching with something har…
/r/seduction08/06/11 02:53 PM
3

This "bullshit" of turning away, while it sounds contrived in this little cartoon, is massively powerful. You cannot rely on verbal communication alone when it comes to seduction. In fact, body language, alone, can be very seductive. Eye contact, touching, how you stand, hold your arms, hands out of pockets, etc. I agree though that the "lines" aren't that interesting. I've never used pickup lines, but I do use "fluff" stories or statements I go to again and again to build attraction. My style i…
/r/seduction08/06/11 02:38 PM
3

Agree on a practical ground assuming that you've had full sexual encounters other than this one.... however, if this is your only experience you can count the number of times you thrusted as an individual sex act to help boost your number. "one... two... three... four... unnffffffffff"
/r/seduction07/06/11 12:02 PM
1

My number is roughly similar, ~30 (depends on definitions of "sex"). If she insists, I'll tell her. But will flat out refuse to give any details, reassuring her that she won't be a story to some other girl later on.
/r/seduction07/06/11 03:23 AM
1

The short answer is don't ask too many questions: make statements that elicit a response. Try this: http://pickuppodcast.com/better-bantering-and-flirting-tips/ and read this thread. Also do some searching for "interview mode" in this subreddit for further advice.
/r/seduction07/06/11 03:18 AM
1

Removed.
/r/seduction06/06/11 08:04 PM
1

Which part confused you? The part with the words?
/r/seduction06/06/11 07:34 PM
2

Imagine two fatties passing each other in a crowded bar... win!
/r/seduction06/06/11 05:30 PM
1

you're letting the external factors influence your game. Take it as far as you can go, treat it as training -- there is no fail, there is only experience. Getting blown out ( an overly dramatic tem), is not a loss ... if the girl isnt into you, for whatever reason, no need to let that bother you. Move on to the next one.
/r/seduction06/06/11 05:17 PM
2

Are you asking lots of questions? i.e., interview mode?
/r/seduction06/06/11 05:13 PM
1

The Game is a life changer, thats for sure. When i meet younger derpy AFCs, I almost always clue them in to the art of seduction. I wish I had learned it in high school. Nope, fucking nice guy until grad school.
/r/seduction06/06/11 05:10 PM
3

I have a rule, never eat where you shit. I shit at work. And... uh, I guess this also means don't date the girls you work with. Because that shit might backfire.
/r/seduction06/06/11 05:03 PM
1

ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction02/06/11 03:25 PM
2

Yes, but not on Reddit.
/r/seduction02/06/11 03:35 AM
2

clearly you don't understand the concept of personal information. To take your example, "Francis" by itself may not allow you to identify a person, but combined with other specific "harmless" information, one could easily link that to an individual.
/r/seduction01/06/11 06:43 PM
2

no Legwork necessary. Just don't post personal information. Pretty fucking simple.
/r/seduction01/06/11 12:23 AM
0

no Legwork necessary. Just don't post personal information. Pretty fucking simple.
/r/seduction01/06/11 12:23 AM
0

no Legwork necessary. Just don't post personal information. Pretty fucking simple.
/r/seduction01/06/11 12:22 AM
1

no Legwork necessary. Just don't post personal information. Pretty fucking simple.
/r/seduction01/06/11 12:21 AM
1

Please tell me they are sweaty man boobs! Me gusta.
/r/seduction30/05/11 02:55 PM
2

I've resorted to a Google Doc (A la Tofu?) to keep track of their names, haha, I do the same using a gmail, I keep a draft e-mail open of names, numbers, and comments to remind me of what we'd talked about, etc. I still get fucked up sometimes and talk about something that (a) I'd talked about before, or worse (b) something that was about a different girl "how was your interview? I bet you nailed it!" her: "what interview???" ... doh.
/r/seduction29/05/11 10:01 PM
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Opening girls, then hugging them and feeling their boobs press against you supposedly helps as well. I lol'd on this one. Yeah, supposedly, but you'd better ask first. Owen sounds like the typical cocky-funny routine type of guy (I have no idea who he is), but I'm guessing that he's probably looking like Neil Strauss or Vin Diesel -- bald/shaved head, peacocked a little, probably shorter than 6'? I'm really of the mind that cocky-funny really only works for certain types people. I know a guy who…
/r/seduction29/05/11 09:00 PM
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Nice FR (I remembered the car dealership post from before). However, why didn't you follow up with either one of these ladies? That seems like the logical step at that point -- or at least have it open to the option. "Great to see you again! turn as if to leave then say "Hey, I've been wanting to see the zoo, but haven't had a good excuse to do so. It'd be fun if you guys could come along." (always include the kid). This could be an insta-date or an opportunity to get her # and continue the inte…
/r/seduction29/05/11 08:50 PM
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Upvote out of respect, and other's total lack of a sense of humor.
/r/seduction28/05/11 01:43 AM
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Okay, for the sake of the nice guys out there, just be honest -- "you are a nice guy, just not my type." No one has to waste time or hurt feelings.
/r/seduction26/05/11 11:15 PM
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I have a question: What if that's what they're doing to us? It works both ways methinks.
/r/seduction26/05/11 07:11 AM
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Just say "Yeah, I am happy with that. *smile* Oh, I almost forgot, I'm meeting up with Sara in about 30 minutes, gotta run. *wave*." Shows unavailability, value, and doesn't allow her to satisfy her curiosity, and twinges the jealousy knob a bit.
/r/seduction26/05/11 07:07 AM
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Try this witty retort: ಠ_ಠ, works wonders. Of course you had to know that she reads reddit.
/r/seduction26/05/11 07:02 AM
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You can always tell when the kids are out of school.
/r/seduction26/05/11 06:55 AM
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Without having read the texting guide below, my feeling is that it should only be used to communicate the details of your next meeting. There's so little one can do by texting/e-mail.
/r/seduction17/04/11 12:38 PM
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Seconded. This is it, in a nutshell.
/r/seduction16/04/11 06:39 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with the notion that paying "less attention" to women somehow garners you more attention. It's counter to the fundamental aspects of the game: To open, to engage, to escalate, to close. All of these require increasing levels of attention paid to the woman (which, after all, is what she really wants).
/r/seduction16/04/11 06:20 PM
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This is a good point, once eye-contact is made with a woman, you really have 3 to 5 seconds to open. A smile can be an open, but only if you stop to talk to her. If you're making eye contact from a long distance approach, then by the time she gets to you it's probably creepy.
/r/seduction16/04/11 06:18 PM
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It depends on whether or not you want to be considered a pussy (or care). I always look big motherfuckers in the eye, but not "stare them down", I don't glower or get all cocky. Most of the time I get a nod or a 'sup'. I give it back. Sometimes, I get that look that says "whatchu lookin at punk-ass?" I just keep on truckin', while hauling a little bit more ass. I make sure my body language is open, no hands in pockets, no defensive postures.
/r/seduction16/04/11 06:14 PM
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The more you convince yourself that you're "terrible with women" the more it will be true. Step #1 for you should be to get over yourself and start being awesome. Spend some time reading through as much "inner game" material as you can. (1) stop apologizing for and qualifying your thoughts and actions. You are a man. You are a sexual being. Women want sex. Therefore, women want what you have. There is nothing to apologize for. You don't drink, that's fine. Just say "I don't drink." if someone gi…
/r/seduction16/04/11 02:00 PM
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There is a fine difference between holding a gaze and staring, same as between shaking someone's hand and holding it just a little too long. Tip 1: never look down when you're walking. It makes you look depressed. The only girls you'll pick up this way are toddlers. Tip 2: When the person coming toward you notices you, hold the gaze and smile. Most guys I've told this too say something about their smile being creepy. I just imagine that I'm looking at box full of wittle babeh kittehs or a really…
/r/seduction16/04/11 01:23 PM
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this made me lol: imagining you walking down Wall Street on a busy day, saluting every single guy.
/r/seduction16/04/11 01:11 PM
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I used to be like this also. After learning seduction, and applying the techniques for a few years now, I really feel different toward women. I see women as sexual equals, who really want to fuck and get fucked, have a great time, be treated with kindness and respect, but also get dirty.
/r/seduction16/04/11 03:00 AM
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Nice report, looking forward to the follow up. One question, did you kino any of these girls? If not, she needs to know that you mean business next time you meet her (which should be soon).
/r/seduction16/04/11 02:57 AM
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Starbucks, yes (addicted to caffeine). But I'd go there anyway. Other places, no -- just browsing. I carry my Ipad or a novel/book, ink pen and small analog notebook for numbers/e-mail addresses. I don't go table to table. I walk in, get in line (scoping out the place), find a seat near my target, engage in conversation when she notices me. If I fall flat (which happens quite frequently), but have never had a flat out "get out of here" or any negative attitudes. I don't mess with married women (…
/r/seduction13/04/11 06:11 PM
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Ah. Its a shit test. "I have a boyfriend." Your response: "I have a goldfish. Want to meet him?"
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:56 AM
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Perfect. I think that helps clarify things. Are you a white guy living in Japan? My experience traveling there, and in China is that it is much easier to get results because local asian guys are far too "nice", respectful and/or boring.
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:41 AM
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You know sometimes the best advice is also the most simple. Eye contact is crucial. This is ingrained in our brains, women detect this stuff. I tested this recently -- any guy who walked into the coffee shop, I would hold his gaze until he looked away. Some of these dudes would snap me like a twig. But they weren't In the mindset, so they demurred. The girl next to me, who I hadn't opened on ( a little too young), struck up a conversation with me. Smiling confidently... not easy to do. I love ba…
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:33 AM
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Agreed, I wasn't clear in my wording. For me, personally, I open the same way, day or night, i follow the same "rules" thoughout the process. I have better success during the day. This also may be because I am selective about who I speak to -- also, I never go to clubs. This raises a point: day vs. night game is really location dependent. Maybe we should define what types of locations are associated with day game and night game. Context and environment are more important than time of day.
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:23 AM
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Great. Did you get her number? The biggest problem I see with my students is that they will flounder after the opening, and won't escalate. They're so excited to get a positive response, they end up walking away. You've gotta go for it. Guys like Style, Mystery, etc. constantly failed in their pickups early on. They learned from this. "Experience comes from making mistakes, and success comes from experience."
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:14 AM
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That's fine with me. I look forward to your contributions.
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:00 AM
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I respect your experience, but fundamentally, the same patterns work day or night, its the opening thats different. We (community) foxus on opening, but the real seduction is what occurs after that is what counts.
/r/seduction12/04/11 11:09 PM
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I think most masters would tell you that there's no difference between your day and night. Women are women. That being said, i always use the parallel conversation technique -- basically it boils down to analyzing what thoughts are on her mind based n context, then commenting off hand about this topic, almost as if to yourself. However, I always spin it positive. This does two things, establish a slightly greater value, and common interest with her. I've found that the highest quality women are …
/r/seduction12/04/11 08:51 PM
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Just be careful, you could end up wasting your time pandering to these HBs instead of bedding others.
/r/seduction12/04/11 08:32 PM
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Although you didn't explain it very well, I understand what you're saying. I experienced this problem too. It's easy to "go too far" in this game, when you start playing it for the sake of playing, and you start to push the limits. Maybe even start doing things that are perverse. This is similar to taking a computer game and modifying it to have fucked up physics, it's still fun for you.... but for everyone else, they're getting smashed by flying cars. Correction comes through "re-normalization"…
/r/seduction11/04/11 03:56 PM
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I hadn't considered that, thanks.
/r/seduction26/03/11 12:45 AM
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I keep two separate facebook accounts: One for family, old high school friends, work colleagues, etc. the other for pickups. Amazingly my "normal" FB regularly recommends adding my pickup FB to my friends list. I have no clue how it connected these two, since I have no common friends between the two, and it uses two different e-mail addresses, etc. If you're getting friend-zoned, you're not doing something right. At some point you're forgetting what you've learned here and reverting to AFC. I do…
/r/seduction25/03/11 06:01 PM
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Everyone has their own personal "style" -- think about what yours should be, based on what you're trying to accomplish. Some guys are great at peacocking, I'm horrible at it -- it just doesn't fit me. So with these thoughts in mind, don't take what he tells you as complete "truth", but mold it to fit your own requirements and situation. You basically want to inflate your actual values, and diminish your weaknesses (but not hide them -- hiding things draws attention to it.) Example: I hung out wi…
/r/seduction24/03/11 07:32 PM
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Next step, do it without the alcohol.
/r/seduction24/03/11 07:24 PM
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That's a good point. You don't want to be fancy here. Sometimes you have a slightly derpy-looking colored picture, a B&W version can help it look a little better. You shouldn't have more than one or two B&W photos in your profile.
/r/seduction24/03/11 06:47 PM
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You have to understand that your picture acts "disqualifier" rather than a value adder. If you look like a creepy stalker/meth addict, it's going to disqualify you. But if you're a normal/average looking guy, then you add value through your interactions. You can go from an initial impression of being a 4 or 5 to an 8 / 8.5 just by displaying all of the "alpha" values that have been discussed extensively in this subreddit. I've found that a profile picture that clearly shows my face, with a sligh…
/r/seduction24/03/11 04:24 PM
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Sounds like you got fish tacos. I completely agree! I've mentioned this a few times in various posts -- knowing the terrain is a huge bonus. Never go somewhere you're not familiar with, because you end up wandering, stores are closed, etc... you want everything to appear to "click" into place. You did everything precisely right. A classic "textbook" example of seduction, with added bonuses of female social proof (difficult to come by, but extremely powerful). Great FR!
/r/seduction24/03/11 04:15 PM
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I have to agree. HBs hang onto guys until they've got another guy lined up. It sucks, but I've seen it happen so many fucking times. Every single one of my LTRs had a "boyfriend" when I met them -- they were just looking for a good reason to get out. Does this suck? Yes. It's human nature though.
/r/seduction24/03/11 03:59 PM
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Er... the goldfish retort is one of the older "I have a boyfriend" comebacks. If Positive-K had known this line, this song would have been completely different.
/r/seduction24/03/11 03:57 PM
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Not much chance on a train... Unless it's relatively empty, even then, a girl's creeper alert is on high. If there are groups of 2 or 3, and they're having fun, your chances are much better. My approach for a single HB on a train would be to do the "lost tourist" routine. e.g., you're supposed to meet a couple of friends at a place <name nearby fun well-known place>, in 2 hours. But aren't quite sure how to get there. When she gives directions, "How do I know you're not messing with me?" smile, …
/r/seduction19/03/11 07:30 PM
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I met a Korean girl through language exchange. She's kind of cute, a little chubby, but seemed to be giving lots of indicators of interest, so I went through my usual routine. However, I made the mistake of telling her my real name, and that I bought a house recently. So we end up making out, but she's really clingy -- calling me a few times a day, gobs of e-mail, etc... I can tell it's getting rapidly worse, because I wasn't that much into her emotionally. I thought we were just having fun, she…
/r/seduction09/03/11 02:07 AM
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Come on, I thought everyone had a separate facebook for picking up girls? No reason you cant use some variant of your real name, but I don't want my 10 year old niece, grandma on the same page with my past and future lovers. What I tell girls now, is that I deleted my facebook because I spent too much time on it. They typically totally understand, it happened today at Starbucks. I gave her my e-mail address and we're meeting up on Friday. You're right about small town. What my friends and I woul…
/r/seduction09/03/11 01:45 AM
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The ones I've had problems with are the ones who think they're in love with me after meeting me a few times. There's still one Japanese girl who e-mails me almost daily, just about random BS, just to keep the connection alive... she's always trying to get me to come over, etc. So glad that I didn't take her to my place, she'd probably show up randomly and unannounced to bring food or something.
/r/seduction09/03/11 01:41 AM
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Yes, as I said, these are for cases when you need to protect your identity for whatever reason -- I'm not recommending all of them simultaneously.
/r/seduction09/03/11 01:38 AM
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Well, you pretty much know what to work on. The eye contact thing is tricky, one thing to work on is to hold their gaze for as long as they hold it. Unless she's constantly looking away. Try to be natural when you look at her, inquisitive looks often work well with the "What is he thinking about?" Also, try not to be to shifty eyed, I notice guys do this when they are nervous. Focusing all of your attention on her, is important. For museums, and similar situations, you want to keep the first enc…
/r/seduction09/03/11 01:35 AM
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Female kinds, typically. :)
/r/seduction09/03/11 01:05 AM
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Yeah, I completely agree with you. I tried to qualify it as for those cases when you're "uncertain". I've gotten burned a couple of times simply because I was up front about all my personal information, and ended up with her showing up at my house, crying, banging on the door... my female roommates were like WTF? It made me look like a complete asshole, when in fact, she was the one who was totally hung up on me.
/r/seduction08/03/11 08:05 PM
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This is a great comment and a common problem! This goes to show that you have to "live" the life that you're "pretending" to have. The ultimate goal is improving your inner game, your outer game, and eventually you become what you've practiced. If you're long term dating, then they're going to see your true nature eventually. The question is whether or not they can accept that.
/r/seduction08/03/11 07:56 PM
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LMR is one thing, you have to know how to read the situation correctly. If she's seriously saying "stop" (and her body language is saying "stop"), you walk away. I don't care whether or not she's playing, because at that point it could be called sexual assault if you persist or get too forceful. It's not worth the trouble if there are dozens of other women to choose from. Never get into something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds.
/r/seduction08/03/11 07:53 PM
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Yes, only because of 8 though. Douches only think about themselves. Alphas make everyone around them better, happier, feel included. Douche may be a necessary step toward achieving your ultimate goal... tread lightly.
/r/seduction08/03/11 06:43 PM
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Of course we deal in generalizations here. My claim is that that the term "nice guy" is often equivalent to "boring guy" in the mind of women. Especially if the guy is a self-proclaimed nice guy -- He's good enough for a friend but not interesting enough to hop into bed with. Yes the opposite of nice is mean, however, nothing is black-and-white! You can be a nice person and still get laid often, the key point is to not be supplicative, profusely apologetic, overly polite, pandering, etc (traits …
/r/seduction08/03/11 06:31 PM
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Can you give a very "detailed" analysis of the following: (1) environment (was it loud? dark? crowded? formal/informal attire? time of day?) (2) your appearance (what were you wearing? was it appropriate for the event? peacocking, etc?) (3) your body langauge (hands in pockets? slow approach? smiling? eye contact?) (4) technique for opening? (5) do you linger? could other sets see you opening / failing on the current set? Initial thoughts: Sydney is a very sophisticated city, so the quality wome…
/r/seduction08/03/11 05:51 PM
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"Nice guy" also often means "boring, unassertive". Women want to have fun. They feel like if they have fun with an asshole, they're not going to hurt his feelings when they breakup. Having fun with a typical boring AFC/nice guy means that the woman usually has to take the lead to actually create fun/flirty situations... few women like doing this.
/r/seduction08/03/11 05:44 PM
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Yep. There are two types of nice: (1) not a dick, and (2) a supplicating AFC. I frequently hear/heard "wow, and you you're so nice too!" Women are so used to being hit on by assholes, that they expect any assertive guy to also be an asshole.
/r/seduction08/03/11 05:40 PM
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This is what I thought too when I read this.
/r/seduction08/03/11 05:34 PM
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Understandable... been there a few times. Once I didn't have any condoms at all (I didn't expect to pick up anyone that day), but she brought condoms with her. Kind of freaked me out a bit, but when I thought about it, it makes more sense than her not having condoms.
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:23 PM
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It's true that there are many guys who fancy themselves as "masters". Anyone who thinks they completely understand women do not actually understand it. The same can be said for quantum mechanics, because no-one completely understands either topic. I try to correct these types toward what I see as the central goal of seduction: building a quality lifestyle that women are attracted to. This encompasses everything from your physical appearance, your mental fortitude, and courage. Things that define…
/r/seduction06/03/11 08:50 PM
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I went back and read some of your earlier posts -- I think you're spot on for almost everything you wrote. We want you here, stick around and continue contributing. Try not to get wrapped up in the minor arguments and pedantic elements.
/r/seduction06/03/11 08:40 PM
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"do you want me to walk you to your place or do you need a ride home" well, depending on her IOI's this could have been either "let's get back and start fucking" or "I'm really tired and trying to drop hints that I wanna go home" ... which was it? Were you escalating, kino, etc?
/r/seduction06/03/11 02:03 AM
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Sounds legit. Good job, it's cool of you to take an AFC as a Wingman. Ask him to contribute a field report.
/r/seduction06/03/11 02:00 AM
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One interesting thing about The Game is it doesn't necessarily teach you how to be better in bed (technique-wise, anyway). I imagine there have been many awkward moments when RFCs have scored their first few women only to find that they're terrible in bed! My advice: be prepared. If you're in the right state of mind all the time, you're going to start assuming that you'll be having sex on a regular basis. So buy some lube, stock up on condoms, buy some toys (new in package, of course: "heh, my f…
/r/seduction06/03/11 01:54 AM
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What the fuck? I've never had any 20 year old complain that I was older than them. In your case, there was way too much friend interference -- I'm not saying you did anything wrong, just a serious cock-blocking by stupid hag roommates. That's happened to me a few times, and it just drives me nuts... roommates acting like fucking parents. This is precisely why I try to get info on roommates early, or find other places to go.
/r/seduction06/03/11 01:40 AM
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No. Women want to be seduced, intrigued, and challenged -- emotionally and mentally. No one wants a pushover guy, nor do they want an ultra-douche who sleeps with other women just to "get back at her" ... this is high school advice, at best. Throwaway PUA says it below, and I'll restate it -- the best way to get out of friend's land is to not get into LJBF land in the first place. If you do, so what? Find someone else to date. Fixating on one female is a waste of fucking time (quite literally).
/r/seduction06/03/11 01:33 AM
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Came here to say this as well.
/r/seduction06/03/11 01:27 AM
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Yeah, sounds pretty much average.
/r/seduction03/03/11 12:24 AM
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That's a little bit above average height for Asian women... Are you also a bit chubby by American standards, not Asian standards? Heading out for dinner, I'll respond later if necessary.
/r/seduction02/03/11 10:19 PM
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Well, meetups are like "dates" there's all the stupid rules that go along with "dating" -- however, you still have an advantage here, youth. Look, girls who go to meetups are pretty much completely desperate for a quality guy. So, show your qualities. Show up well dressed but not too formal. Stand out from the crowd. Find one girl and quickly get her number, then leave. You're too busy/cool for meetups, but thought you'd check it out in case there was someone there you might connect with. If I w…
/r/seduction02/03/11 10:11 PM
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That's a bit too large, how tall are you? I'd guess you have have back problems...
/r/seduction02/03/11 09:57 PM
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Yes, you can "get away with it", but you're automatically putting yourself in a lower position from the beginning. And you'll only get those who "feel sorry for you" or "want to control you" (same thing, actually). Confessing feelings sounds like a recipe for disaster! If she can't figure out that you like her from your actions, your words are just going to sound hollow and only reinforce your weak position. This is why physical methods like kino so effective. The Game is like Chess. There are m…
/r/seduction02/03/11 08:52 PM
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Uninteresting girls are the absolute best to practice various techniques on, so don't discard them too quickly. This is a good start, keep it up.
/r/seduction02/03/11 07:54 PM
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Oneitis is a sickness. There's only one prescription: more cowbell. Seriously, I suffered from Oneitis for 7 years. 7 years, wasted, obsessing over one woman, who had no romantic interest in me. This was until I found alt.seduction.fast (newsgroup) and other internet resources -- my life changed within two weeks. I was meeting multiple women who were 10x better than her in every way, and eventually she faded away. Do I still think about her? Sure. But if she came to me today and said "sorry, I s…
/r/seduction02/03/11 07:51 PM
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Thanks. This is why I felt the need for a separate guide, to make the distinctions from the standard routines. I know there are quite a few guys out there who are interested in Asian women but don't know how to approach them properly. I see it all the time in my local observation post (Starbucks). There's even a guy here right now doing the language exchange approach, but he's fucking it up royally. No Kino, no mirroring, bad body language, poorly dressed, no eye contact... and he's wearing tons…
/r/seduction02/03/11 07:45 PM
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Interesting! Do you think that this is normal for K-girls in Thailand? I know that the South-East Asians are generally considered to be of a lower "class" (darker skin, more agrarian lifestyle).
/r/seduction02/03/11 06:45 PM
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Asian supermarkets often carry thin-sliced lamb, which could be cooked and served as a "roast-beef" style sandwich. Use a little bit of cumin, it brings out the delicious Lamb flavor.
/r/seduction02/03/11 05:21 PM
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I'm not sure whether you're being serious or not, but I'll bite. Asian guys, almost without exception, have no expectation that a white girl would like them -- so they're not looking for any indicators of interest. Also, Asian guys are used to women who are, believe it or not, a little bit more assertive when it comes to relationships. Again, this is Asian guys who aren't "Americanized" -- Americanized / Asian Americans usually follow the same rules as white/black guys. Of course, these are ster…
/r/seduction02/03/11 05:20 PM
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Admittedly it can be difficult, they tend to have similar fashion trends. Korean women tend to cluster, talk more loudly, and the younger ones tend to dress less conservatively (more provocatively). Japanese women tend to be alone, yet when they are together, you'll barely hear them speaking loudly, and they almost always dress conservatively. This is based on my experience of these women in the U.S. -- in Japan/Korea, you get a much broader spectrum of course. As for language, I always listen f…
/r/seduction02/03/11 01:42 PM
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Trust me, it's a good thing, especially if she sees it happening. Usually, the guys weren't even paying attention to me, all of the attention was on her when she walked into a room. You know you're doing something right at that point.
/r/seduction02/03/11 04:11 AM
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I was being a little facetious -- but you're absolutely right. There's a certain skin tone that seems to be ideal. This seems to be pretty close.
/r/seduction02/03/11 04:01 AM
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Glad to hear it! Just remember: don't stick your dick in crazy.
/r/seduction02/03/11 02:34 AM
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Yeah -- it would work for asian guys too, although black/darker skinned guys might be at a disadvantage due to a current societal perception of whiter skin = more beautiful.
/r/seduction01/03/11 11:16 PM
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I was thinking something that is generally delicious. For example, Quesadillas are easy, and always fun to eat. As a general rule, you should teach yourself how to prepare 3 or 4 different kinds of dishes that are sure to impress. One spicy dish, one fun dish, one dessert type dish, and steak.
/r/seduction01/03/11 11:14 PM
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I just posted part 1 of a 2 part guide which extends significantly off of what I describe above. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/fvadz/a_brief_guide_to_developing_your_asian_game_part/
/r/seduction01/03/11 08:46 PM
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Good job. Keep it going. After you run this routine for a couple of weeks, you'll start to see things that worked and what didn't work. Everyone has their own personal strengths and weaknesses, find those and use it to your advantage. Two phrases come to mind here that I often repeat to myself to get in to the state of mind: (1) Fear is the mind killer (2) Experience comes from bad judgment (mistakes), Good judgment comes from experience. Synthesis of these two: Don't be afraid to fuck it up.
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:32 PM
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Fear is the mind killer.
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:25 PM
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3 Words: Positive. Happy. Interesting. Axiom: Bored people are boring. Corollary: Interested people are interesting.
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:23 PM
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Lol, this is exactly my thoughts about "Peacocking" ... most people cannot pull it off.
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:20 PM
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There's some truth to this. When I used be a mountain bike racer, some of the guys I'd race with would run full force into a tree prior to the race. When onlookers would "WTF?" their response: "I wanted to get the crash out of the way before the race." The reason, even the best riders crash at least once, and it affects your inner game. So first thing you do is open a set, get rejected, then say to yourself "let's roll."
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:19 PM
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Welcome to The Game. Sit down, read a few posts.
/r/seduction01/03/11 04:10 PM
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The language exchange method works well here for meeting women. Especially when you're in the foreign country where a lot of people want to learn/practice English.
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:52 PM
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Based on my experience of traveling in Asia, I would have thought that women would be flocking to a Western guy (?). I had two dates every night for the week I was in Japan. Thank God for Tokyo Craigslist.
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:51 PM
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Agreed, generally. While it's important to be confident and engaging, you also do not want to over do it. Douchebaggery is like desperation, the stench is difficult to remove once you've got it.
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:48 PM
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Yep, actually go to the library. Seriously, we can sit here and douche around about technique all day. Nothing beats field experience! Follow the 3 second rule, otherwise you'll be just another creep. If she's a 8+, then you can give her a slight neg hit "Hi, I was wondering where to find Derpenstein, by Mary Sherpderp?" Her: "Um, I don't work here..." You: "Ah, you look really smart, like a librarian... except with much better hair." (never say "sorry" in such situations).
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:42 PM
1

Unless you're waiting in a line to make the first move, I think you wanted "cue". Note: If a girl is kinoing you, you're stupid if you don't kiss her.
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:37 PM
2

I'm in the U.S. In private / semi-private, normal PUA rules apply -- she's still a woman. Sparking interest: chances are that they are bored, tired of studying, etc. So, the language exchange thing opens up all sorts of possibilities for "non-dates". e.g., go to the Zoo: "What's the Korean word for Zebra?", "Hey, that donkey has a massive boner, like me.", etc., Never go on "a date" with a Korean girl (or any girl for that matter), it comes with a certain set of rules and expectations. You don't…
/r/seduction01/03/11 03:28 PM
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Nope a fairly ugly, tall/skinny white dude. The funny thing is that they have to have dated at least one korean dude, the young ones don't know any better ... yet. After they realize korean guys are total dicks, they'll take any amerian guy. The whole language exchange concept worked really well for me. Its nonthreatening, and a good excuse to spend time with them. Also, showing that you are interested in their culture, gives you super extra bonus points. Careful with kino -- kgirls are really c…
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:23 PM
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As a guy who gamed many Kgirls in the U.S., I AGREE FUCKING COMPLETELY. They are bat-shit insane: every. single. one.
/r/seduction25/02/11 02:00 PM
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