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To be honest I've sort of given up.
/r/seduction21/06/11 10:30 AM
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Yeah, I live in a college town.
/r/seduction19/06/11 06:22 AM
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this doesn't applyt o me
/r/seduction17/06/11 07:23 AM
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It's not always the case that people are trying to be social. I for one am kind of tired of trying to open in bars. I mean, I suck at game, but I keep trying. And bars just suck. People are drunk, it's weird to have an in-depth conversation about anything. If all the advice people ram down my throat about desensitizing myself to bars were really true, it would have happened by now. Bars suck.
/r/seduction16/06/11 07:34 AM
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This is solid advice. Not that I succeed in following it, like, ever, but I'm pretty sure it's solid advice.
/r/seduction12/06/11 10:48 AM
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Thanks for the thoughtful response to my question, I appreciate it. Here's how I scored on the f7u12 cartoon: http://i.imgur.com/t3ewe.png I'm quite certain that the problem is me, not them. Because the girls I have flailed with have been very different from each other, they all end up irritated and uncomfortable after a while. I understand what you're saying about not dishing out compliments. I don't think I do that. I've read a fair amount of PUA stuff, and I have gone out and put some of it i…
/r/seduction07/06/11 12:01 PM
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I'm too goddamned nice. Advice (please?).
/r/seduction07/06/11 09:26 AM
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Seriously? I don't want to sound like a total chump but I can't even imagine doing that. It would have seemed completely weird.
/r/seduction06/05/11 04:26 AM
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Thanks. Now I'm thinking I should have said something. Maybe my real problem was that I cared whether then approved of what I wanted to talk about or not... actually, in point of fact, I really was interested in her work, and I regret not learning more about it. To be honest, I think I adopted an incorrect idea as a result of reading too much PUA stuff: that every conversation means something, should be interpreted, and has an interpretable result. I think there's some truth to the idea that one…
/r/seduction05/05/11 04:02 AM
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Hi, thanks. I appreciate the suggestion but I really feel like your suggestion wouldn't have worked in the situation. It was way too soon for scheduling anything, or even suggesting scheduling anything -- if I couldn't even manage to get them to invite me to sit down with them, how was I going to get them to take a specific invitation to hang out later seriously?
/r/seduction05/05/11 03:31 AM
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yes
/r/seduction23/04/11 07:26 AM
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...and she's churchy.
/r/seduction13/10/10 05:22 AM
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She's on another continent.
/r/seduction13/10/10 05:22 AM
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18 months? Try... Years...
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:25 PM
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I thought "I make my own hummus" was pretty good too.
/r/seduction17/08/10 10:06 AM
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I dunno man, if a girl goes right for the balls...
/r/seduction17/08/10 09:55 AM
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I am pretty sure I couldn't do that.
/r/seduction16/06/10 06:40 AM
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Can you explain why?
/r/seduction08/06/10 08:03 AM
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All the more reason for her to have some :D
/r/seduction03/06/10 04:59 PM
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I think most people would have laughed. That girl was just like... eager to find a way to be shocked.
/r/seduction02/06/10 03:29 AM
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I've actually tried your #1, Literati. I made some joke about filling a USB stick with porn (uh, long story), and the girl freaked out. Actually, in retrospect, the whole thing was kind of funny. She turned out to be a pretty devoutly religious person. But that whole thing was my fail, because it was in a quasi-professional venue and not a bar or something like that. With regard to your #2, that's another problem I have. I speak really really fast to try to cov…
/r/seduction01/06/10 12:06 AM
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I thought it was the xenu.
/r/seduction28/05/10 04:06 PM
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I agree. I think there is a conscious element to smiling, and that it can make a difference to try if you're out of the habit.
/r/seduction28/05/10 04:04 PM
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Yeah and he totally got laid! Uh, I mean, published.
/r/seduction27/05/10 12:03 AM
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Here's some advice from a guy who's way beyond college: Ask yourself why you're studying IT. There's something about it that you're passionate about. If there isn't, then, man up and figure out how to do the thing that you are passionate about. You aren't doing the world any favors if you're doing something you hate. But you are doing the world a favor if you're doing something you love, no matter what it is. I have an even more obscure interest than IT. And I love it whole heartedly. I've recen…
/r/seduction25/05/10 12:17 AM
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It's like writers who collect pink slips. They're the ones who get published. Eventually ;)
/r/seduction25/05/10 12:11 AM
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I think another critical thing, for me at least, and for a lot of other guys, is to stop being convinced that you're failing. I have had been in the habit of being "confused" as to why I was "failing" with girls who I would be talking to. Like, I'm not really shy or anything, and I can open conversations pretty easily. But I'd always come away from a conversation going "god, well, that didn't go anywhere." But it did go somewhere: she talked to me, laughed, asked some questions, whatever. For me…
/r/seduction25/05/10 12:10 AM
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I suppose that's possible, but even so, if someone has a fuckton of money it doesn't mean that they're going to be good with women. Maybe I'm naive, but I really find it hard to imagine this girl acting the way she did for, say, Bill Gates. By saying he was better dressed I didn't mean he was expensively dressed; it was just that he had on a coat and nicer-than-jeans pants a dress shirt or something. Believe me, by comparison to the hippies in that joint wearing anything that still has buttons i…
/r/seduction22/05/10 08:34 AM
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This is my whole problem. Everything is a big deal to me. Case in point: today I was sitting in a Mexican restaurant eating dinner. A beautiful girl sat down one table away. Here are my thoughts, for your comic amusement: "God, she's so hot." "She's like, exactly my type." "No seriously, she's exactly my type." (Yes, I sit there having conversations with myself.) "She's exactly like my ex, but even prettier." "She'd be so weirded out if she knew I was thinking that." "She'd be weirded out if she…
/r/seduction22/05/10 03:05 AM
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Maybe, although I suppose the two aren't mutually exclusive (after all, if PUA techniques are what generate attraction, aren't they just as effective in an LTR?). What gave me the feeling he might be was the sheer confidence with which he would direct his attention elsewhere. He'd just walk off and talk to someone else in a friendly way, and she'd be standing there with her coffee sort of spooning (in the old sense of spoon :P ) and waiting longingly for him to return his attention to her. And t…
/r/seduction21/05/10 09:58 PM
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Someone needs to do a play-by-play of Forrest Gump's game. THAT I would like to read.
/r/seduction21/05/10 06:06 PM
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Happily you lost me at "rolling on beans."
/r/seduction20/05/10 02:30 PM
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How is the xkcd you linked any different from the OP's post? It's the same message.
/r/seduction17/05/10 11:27 PM
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"Be yourself" is advice that I get from all my friends, especially girls. Glad it worked for you, doesn't work for me
/r/seduction16/05/10 05:30 AM
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"Haha, that's funny, I was just planning on going and sticking a skewer in my eye."
/r/seduction16/05/10 02:06 AM
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when I try and open and get blown out, I no longer think of it as the girls rejecting me; it's just my approach was off and so they rejected my approach, not me as a person), but I don't think reading all these affirmation type phrases helps much. I can appreciate this on an intellectual level, but in my own experience when I get blown out I have an overwhelming urge to eject. Like I did 15 minutes ago. I really have trouble faking it because I feel like I'm an absolute open book. When I get blo…
/r/seduction16/05/10 01:44 AM
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In a weird way I fear any success. Partially because of my strict upbringing (deep-seated inculcation that anything but an LTR is wrong), and partially because the end of my last LTR was awful, I have trouble even imagining getting back in gear. I know I have to, and I'm going to try. But it's something I'm totally unaccustomed to.
/r/seduction14/05/10 09:20 AM
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Dude, thanks, I'm totally going to look into this. I have a membership at the Y and it's like 2 blocks from my apartment, so I have zero excuse not to try.
/r/seduction13/05/10 11:44 PM
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Overall I feel good about where I am, for instance, I'm starting to get where I can stop thinking of opening as opening and start not thinking of it at all. Not so with kino and negging, but maybe I'll get there. Doing gym time is a real bugbear for me. I've gotten into and right back out of the habit several times. I feel like I don't know what I'm doing there, so I only use the machines and never freeweights. Something tells me that results are far better with freeweights, but I just don't kno…
/r/seduction13/05/10 11:19 PM
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Thanks, I'll look for The Blueprint (I assume it's a book?). I do meditate, but to be honest, as a Buddhist I find it pretty hard to sync up meditation with anything to do with PU. Maybe I should ask myself why I feel that way.
/r/seduction13/05/10 11:16 PM
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Good grief do I ever identify with that last paragraph. Catholic high school, fuck you... fuck you very much.
/r/seduction08/05/10 09:42 AM
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Not sure what you're getting at. I'm perfectly aware that I'm insecure. I'm also aware that the "community" is mostly a myth. For me, aside from this board, it is definitely a myth, since I only ever go out alone. But the ideas have helped me. I have become more awake in how I interact with women. Today I talked to three girls. Two of them brought up staying in touch with me. Another girl I recently met waved to me from across the street. No, I am not screwing Courtney Love (perish the thought).…
/r/seduction07/05/10 09:42 AM
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Sorry for going sort of off topic, but I tried to read about NLP and here's what I thought about it: it's not scientific at all. But it is still sort of fun to read about it. I bought the "Introduction to NLP" book that Style recommends. That book is just full of nonsense, and I'm only halfway into it. For instance, it makes all these claims about how you basically read peoples' minds by watching how their eyes move. (Stuff like this.) And there's no evidence, whatsoever. There's just this chart…
/r/seduction03/05/10 07:30 AM
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thx for the encouragement. Tonight I'm afraid I went back into anti-social coder-in-the-corner mode. But hey, it's Sunday :)
/r/seduction03/05/10 07:23 AM
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He's written some interesting books too.
/r/seduction02/05/10 06:00 PM
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Thanks, this is interesting. Again I think my problem is inner game. When I think back to my situation that night, I keep telling myself that I made some mistake early on (where we sat, blah blah) that made it impossible for me to try to merge sets. But as I think of your suggestions, I realize it's just not true. As a matter of fact, I now realize exactly what I could have done: the next table over was a bunch of people speaking a language I happen to have studied. They were laughing and drinki…
/r/seduction02/05/10 04:38 PM
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I understand why it works in theory, and I have reason to believe it's true. What I don't see is how to somehow take advantage of that dynamic. For instance, how do I open another set when I am already in one...
/r/seduction01/05/10 07:34 PM
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I have been wondering about this too. I got some useful replies here.
/r/seduction30/04/10 09:21 PM
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"Not much smegma."
/r/seduction30/04/10 09:13 PM
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Aaaand the followup was her telling me all about her weekend getaway with her boyfriend. Back to the drawing board.
/r/seduction30/04/10 08:24 PM
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I can't imagine why people are voting this comment down. It's exactly right. One should be able to trust a therapist. Yeah, the therapist is human, and maybe it's sincere, but whatever. Think about it -- suppose the therapist were a gynecologist. Is the analogy funny? Why? Er, okay, actually it is kind of funny. Heh. But the inference that telling the OP to get out of the situation is somehow anti-PU, or anti-sex, or forcing an unnecessary moral judgment strikes me as kind of bonkers.
/r/seduction29/04/10 06:59 AM
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a female one THIS. You want to talk to a therapist who is of the gender you are not interested in. You want to identify with your therapist as a person. You don't want to identify your problems with the therapist as a person. Get out of there.
/r/seduction29/04/10 06:53 AM
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FWIW, one thing I've used in the past is to write a message on my phone and hand it to her. Of course, I suppose you then run the risk of her leaving with your phone. Heh.
/r/seduction29/04/10 06:33 AM
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Seconded. I also love this guy's posts. :) I'm pretty damn sure I could not pull off that opener at my present level, but it is definitely the kind of opener that stands the chance of being fucking great. Question, intjpua: do you think the that tapping her on the shoulder (presumably from behind, by surprise) could have been the dealbreaker? Has that worked for you in the past? It seems to me that it sets up a sort of invasive vibe. I could imagine that line coming off as cocky/funny if it were…
/r/seduction29/04/10 06:28 AM
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Got a number today, go me. Funnily, it sort of resulted from me doing a backwards FTC. (An inverse time constraint? An ITC. Yes. PUAs need more TLAs ASAP.) I plugged in my laptop and sat down. If a girl is sitting next to an outlet in a coffee place, I almost always try to use plugging in my laptop as an excuse to start talking to her. It's reasonable excuse to calibrate whether they're going to be annoyed or friendly. She was friendly, so I just went ahead and started jabbering. We talked for a…
/r/seduction29/04/10 04:48 AM
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Funny you mention Alan Watts, I'm also a fan. Believe me, I've been going to great lengths to work through my obsession with being embarrassed.
/r/seduction28/04/10 06:18 AM
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Thanks for your thoughts ET. One thing that's sort of weird about my situation is that I've been going primarily solo. My impression is that most PUA people don't do that until later, so maybe it's something I can be proud of? Point being, it's more common for me to find myself in a situation where girls "appear" because they're in the same place as me, rather than me walking into a venue and approaching. Bars are different, naturally. FTCs don't do much in a bar, in my experience. But on the me…
/r/seduction28/04/10 06:16 AM
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Well, to be honest I'm just trying to "acclimatize" myself to going to bars. I'm in my mid 30's and I've never felt comfortable at bars. I think it's kind of a handicap because there are, after all, a lot of girls at bars. And at bars people are willing to be approached, I think. Certainly moreso than at my normal haunts, coffee shops, bookstores, and such. So I've just been trying to go to local popular bars to get used to it. I have realized that I actually would like to get up the confidence …
/r/seduction28/04/10 05:49 AM
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Sounds like it worked out okay to me.
/r/seduction27/04/10 11:23 PM
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False Time Constraint. It's what you do when you say something like "I've got to get back to my friends but..." Or, in my case, I just made like I was leaving. The idea is that it takes away the fear of the girl thinking that you're going to be a hoverer; she might be hesitant to get into a conversation with someone that she thinks would never go away. FTCs, in my experience, are very useful at taking away that awkwardness.
/r/seduction27/04/10 11:17 PM
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"What? I just saw some guys playing basketball. Did you see something?"
/r/seduction27/04/10 06:37 AM
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Respect.
/r/seduction27/04/10 06:28 AM
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Thanks a lot for your thoughts, they are always well-written and helpful. I've been thinking about how to respond to this post for a while now. Here's the main thing that's been on my mind of late: I'm actually my own worst enemy when it comes to inner game. Because get this: when I sort of sit down and enumerate the number of times I've been opening, it's actually kind of a huge number. I haven't been counting as they happen, but in retrospect, counting from memory, it really surprises me how m…
/r/seduction27/04/10 01:24 AM
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Yeah, I agree. It might seem a little weird, but at this point in my life I feel like I really have to look at it almost as a job. I'm getting there, I think, thought I do still have days like I had yesterday. Today was better.
/r/seduction26/04/10 05:45 AM
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Thanks. I think you're probably right. Actually, I know you're right in purely intellectual way; the thing is, I'm trying to get over a serious fucking case of broken heart. As a result I'm working really fucking hard, dealing with my embarrassment obsession straight on, and going out every night. I worry about my age a lot. I worry about my body a lot (6'1" but 206.9, down from 218 a month ago)... I have all kinds of fucking issues. I want to fucking fight them. I need to get my heart out of it…
/r/seduction23/04/10 08:51 AM
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Thanks for the condescension but you missed my point.
/r/seduction22/04/10 05:11 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how to get a slightly more interesting haircuts. A lifetime of Supercuts, etc, does not generate much in the way of inspiration...
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:59 AM
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Yeah, I will say that I took a few small steps toward changing my appearance this week. Mainly I made my hair go... uh... kinda up. It was definitely weird for me, and I felt like I noticed more IOIs, but maybe it was a confirmation bias. In any case, it was interesting to notice how I gradually felt less weird over time.
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:48 AM
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I guess. But I can never escape the feeling that I'm "that creepy guy" when I'm in that situation. I've actually made friends with a girl that works at a coffee place, and I flirt the hell out of her... but honestly she's a little too pierced-ish for me. I went by to see her tonight after the bar blowout but she wasn't working. Again, at least I tried...
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:12 AM
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It's easy to get down on oneself after a bad night, like tonight. I didn't open anyone at the bar I went to. I did get a little thing going with a girl working at a burger joint (I know, I know, hired guns... but hey it's better than nothing). My number was 20 and I just casually mumbled "how funny, that's my age." She did a double take and then realized I was joking. & I said "er, I meant you're age." She said "well, I'm a bit older than that." I didn't say anything. Then, much to my surprise, …
/r/seduction22/04/10 06:48 AM
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That's a very interesting and subtle point. I was trying to sound confident, you know, like I didn't feel like there was something on the line. The fact is I get nervous as hell in these openings. At least, I don't feel like I'm "in my own head," I feel like I'm faking it. But the "stick with answerable questions" suggestion is simple and I will try to remember that. thx
/r/seduction22/04/10 04:11 AM
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Forgive me if I sound nitpicky, but how do you order that? "I want a gin & tonic with just a little gin"?
/r/seduction22/04/10 04:09 AM
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Nope, not wanting to pick up the bartender. I just don't know how to behave in terms of not continually buying drinks. I know that a lot of PUA people supposedly don't drink at all, but I really find it hard to imagine not drinking anything at all, just in terms of etiquette, or something.
/r/seduction22/04/10 04:08 AM
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thx. I had no idea where to go from there. At this point I'm just trying to open. As Mr. Neil put it... "This was how I learned. At first my only goal, and your only goal tonight, is to open. All I wanted to do was walk into a set, open successfully, not have them be rude to me or kick me out, and then I'd leave and I was fine."
/r/seduction22/04/10 01:41 AM
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Thanks, I found a video by him and Steve P on Youtube. I haven't gone through the whole thing yet but I have to admit I find it a little vague when they talk about "centering." Maybe there is some sort of NLP influence there or something?
/r/seduction21/04/10 03:56 AM
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Thanks, that's a good point. There are several other bars around where I was, so I could easily have moved on. I'll try that.
/r/seduction20/04/10 10:29 PM
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FWIW it's worth, it a true fact that at least one girl I know is totally into guys with acne. She told me she liked the way it made them seem like individuals. I mean, I'm not saying that you should look for that or something. But maybe it can help you think about it.
/r/seduction20/04/10 06:48 AM
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You seem angry.
/r/seduction20/04/10 06:46 AM
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Well, I had shared a few words with them. But timidly. If I had been more assertive in those comments, it would have been possible for me to actually get into a straw fight. As it happened, I ended up seeming more like a straw man... live & learn.
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:31 PM
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Yeah. To my credit, I guess, I just stood my ground. It's kind of interesting to point out, I guess, that when the three new girls showed up, there was another guy nearby who got up and left so they could all sit together. At that time I pointedly decided not to, that I was going to see how it worked out. One of the girls mentioned that she felt bad that the guy had had to get up and move. So looking back maybe I had a better starting hand than I had given myself credit for. It's interesting how…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:30 PM
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I was thinking maybe it was a shit test because it succeeded in making me feel pretty shitty. I hope you're right and that I just need to readjust my attitude towards and skills in recognizing flirting!
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:28 PM
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Hehe, must remember that...
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:27 PM
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Thanks. I'm not sure that they actually did want to talk to me; I suspect that they may have been sorority girls, given the way they were constantly trying to impress each other with all the stuff they were planning to do. Honestly even though they were cute I find it hard to even imagine myself hanging out with any of them. But I'm trying to get out of the habit of doing that; telling myself "it would never work" is self-defeating. I actually did say a few things to them, but they didn't follow…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:27 PM
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Hey, thanks for your thoughts. The description you give of creepy white dudes creeps me out too. The reason that I recoil so much from the "Asian obsession" or "fetish" or whatever label is that I most definitely do not think of myself as having anything to do with guys like that. It's just a twist of fate, as far as I'm concerned, that I happened to grow up around a lot of Asian kids (Koreans, Vietnamese, and Chinese, as it happens). About half of my friends growing up were Asian. So a phrase l…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:20 PM
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I think it's mostly mindset whether one "is" a PUA or not. Kids fingerpainting can technically be classified as "artists" after all. I appreciate any and all feedback. :)
/r/seduction19/04/10 07:25 AM
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Shrug, maybe. I guess it's kind of a sore point for me because I take crap for it from all my friends.
/r/seduction19/04/10 07:15 AM
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That really would be cool. I would love to see that. Better than Chomsky :P
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:45 AM
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Hey if it takes balls to do what I did then ANYONE can do it :P You can define a goal even more restrictive than mine was: go to a bar, drink one beer (or a Coke, whatever), and leave. Even if you feel shitty right afterwards (as I did), come back and tell us about it. You might learn (as I did) that it was a pretty cool thing to do, and a good first step. Or if you aren't ready for a bar, just find some other ridiculously simple goal. Earlier today I walked all around a city with the goal of ta…
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:40 AM
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Well, I did manage to at least hold my ground at the bar for a while. It got a little busier a while after I got there, so there were other people trying to crowd in to get a drink. So at least getting up the huevos to sit there alone at first earned me the right to feel like I had my own spot. That said, I totally agree with the utility of having a reason to leave. Maybe another option would be something like planning ahead of time to go to a late movie--there are a couple theaters near this ba…
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:22 AM
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I found myself concentrating on bartendresses. That kind of a chump move, given that you never know if they like you or are trying to game a tip. (The latter more likely, I reckon.) You may be right, tho this place was actually pretty busy. There was a whole separate (huge) room with pool tables, and there were a ton of girls in there. But I found that even more intimidating than the bar.
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:17 AM
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Thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it. I think you're right about it taking some time to get accustomed to a new venue. One of the things that I never see in PUA literature is this aspect of going to the same place more than once. One thing I wonder about is how PUA gurus seem to describe "going out" as if it were independent of place--as if where you are is "always new." But I always find myself going to places with a negative attitude, because I tell myself "Eh, you're not really going…
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:14 AM
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Yeah, I think you're right. I don't think the pain will ever go away from that relationship going wrong. But I'm no longer willing to sit around and wait, a year-plus later. It's time for me to make some changes.
/r/seduction18/04/10 08:28 AM
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It was really, really hard for me to do but actually I was the one who broke off the relationship, because she was essentially ignoring me. I think that i could have dealt with the situation better if I had been more confident then, but I also give myself credit for recognizing that it had gotten to a point of no return. To be perfectly honest, I am still struggling mightily (a year later) to get over my conviction that she was the one. On the other hand could seriously use a little pussy. Ha, h…
/r/seduction18/04/10 08:21 AM
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That's really kind of you to say, I appreciate it. I guess in a way it wasn't a disaster--after all, I did get out there, and somehow managed to overcome the fear of going out alone. It wasn't entirely bizarre talking to the first bartender, because I mentioned to her that I had recently moved here, so I guess one way to look at it is that it's not entirely freakish that I'd be there alone. So I suppose I could back, too, and maybe one of the people who work there would recognize me, and it woul…
/r/seduction18/04/10 08:15 AM
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Yeah, I think I will have to do some remedial study of that stuff. You know what's weird, about the only long-term relationship I've had in my life was at least kickstarted by using some PUA techniques. (the one thing I seem to have mastered was the false time constraint; it somehow managed to take the pressure off of me enough to allow me to speak confidently. But that relationship recently went under. Now I'm faced with the fact that I really miss having a very close girlfriend, and I feel lik…
/r/seduction18/04/10 08:01 AM
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Thanks, I will try that.
/r/seduction18/04/10 07:33 AM
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Yeah I already do that. I'm not totally hopeless in terms of starting up conversations. I can usually get a laugh, and I can even come off as confident and/or funny a majority of the time, but I just never know how to get it past the first few comments.
/r/seduction18/04/10 07:31 AM
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Eh. I find the term "yellow fever" pretty ridiculous. And it makes it sound like a disease or something. I am over the fact that I like Asian girls, it's just a fact, a facet of my personality, and it's not going away. Besides, it's not like people say guys have "blonde fever" if they're into blondes, you know?
/r/seduction18/04/10 07:26 AM
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Really? But I feel like I eliminated this particular venue from credibility, because I sat there all night like an AFC extraordinaire. Is it a hugely bad idea to consider a bartender to be one's target? Because there was this girl (Asian, and I freely admit that that's my thing), who was working there, and she seemed really self conscious, like she was really unconfident. Even more unconfident than me. She was clearly the hottest girl behind the bar, but she seemed like the most socially awkward…
/r/seduction18/04/10 06:23 AM
1

What's the rationale behind saying "...because I can just go away but..."? It sounds like a DLV to me.
/r/seduction18/04/10 04:35 AM
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Yeah, I know. The problem isn't that I don't understand the message, it's that the message is ubiquitous. At least in the places where I hang out (coffee places). So I guess the bottom line is that I need to get out of that sort of venue.
/r/seduction17/04/10 07:09 PM
1

What? I can't hear you, I have headphones on.
/r/seduction16/04/10 11:13 PM
1

Well, she wasn't legal. Maybe I'll run into her again but... I'm not gonna stress over that reaction. There are ~ 6 billion / 2 women on the planet right?
/r/seduction16/04/10 08:29 PM
1

Why?
/r/seduction15/04/10 10:41 PM
1

I really need to work on how I respond to "the revelation" of my age. I clearly handled it worse than you do. I've tried quasi-false disqualifiers like "I could be your grandfather." But that tends to get an expression that looks like, "why would you say that?" I'm just really bad with the funny sarcasm thing. I was watching those vids with KassemG that someone posted earlier, and I kept thinking to myself, I could never get away with some of the jokes that that guy's pulling off. I'm not sure w…
/r/seduction15/04/10 10:41 PM
2

More like, "waaa, I look young, why am I failing to fuck college girls?"
/r/seduction15/04/10 10:35 PM
1

Floating point errors must be taken into consideration :P
/r/seduction15/04/10 10:32 PM
1

I did the goatee thing a while back. I have red hair and it makes me look a little like a viking :) And it's true, I have no soul.
/r/seduction15/04/10 10:15 PM
1

I've wandered around the edges of PUA communities before but never really tried to put any of it into practice. I'm finally getting over my last relationship (and the attitudes that let to its demise), and I've been working on a lot of personal stuff (losing some weight, trying to get out more, getting over being a cynical bastard, etc). So I think it's time for me to try getting a little game. I'm quite sure that my problems are mostly mental and attitudinal, so I will probably ask for more adv…
/r/seduction15/04/10 10:14 PM
2

Nice Guys think that they will never meet anyone as special as she is. They use their adoration as a foundation for claiming that "no one will ever love her as much as I do." Instead of being a profound statement of their devotion, this is a subtle, but nasty insult. It is akin to saying to her: "You are a difficult person, and only I can ever truly love you, so be thankful I'm here." Ouch, I'm totally guilty of that.
/r/seduction15/04/10 06:38 PM
1

Without giving away too much detail, suffice it to say it's not where I am. :)
/r/seduction15/04/10 06:13 PM
1

Something to say just popped into my head that made me laugh: "I'm so happy I finally got to my mid-30s... now I can get girls half my age and it's legal." Heh.
/r/seduction15/04/10 06:12 PM
1

This question is a lot of questions :) There is a lot of stuff online in languages besides English. Which one are you looking for?
/r/seduction15/04/10 06:51 AM
1

Sorry, my PUA-ese is a little rusty -- by timebridge do you mean setting up a specific time to see her again? I'm pretty sure I couldn't have pulled that off, it would have seemed really try-hard. Worse, I could have actually tried, and then run into her again at this same place, which is my favorite hangout. I feel like it's important to never seem chumpy there. To be honest, I wasn't super crazy about her or anything, she's probably a 7. But she knows this other girl that hangs out in that caf…
/r/seduction14/04/10 08:32 AM
1

What I said was "It's kind of my office." I was trying to be funny and maybe simultaneously a little cocky, but I think it came off as if I didn't have anywhere else to go.
/r/seduction14/04/10 07:31 AM
1

practicing your amog-fu?
/r/seduction13/04/10 11:45 PM
2

I'm definitely not that guy.
/r/seduction13/04/10 02:01 AM
1

how?
/r/seduction13/04/10 01:42 AM
3

Somehow I just had the image of somebody like, hurling their body across a bar counter and copping a feel of a waitress.
/r/seduction13/04/10 01:37 AM
1

you guys are all full of shit, with your acronyms.
/r/seduction17/02/10 07:48 PM
6

women don't make mistakes in dating, and they get offended at the mere suggestion that they might.
/r/seduction07/02/10 03:34 PM
1

...don't involve people on reddit.
/r/seduction06/02/10 08:28 AM
1

Ah, law school. Don't worry, the women come flocking to people like you. There's nothing you have to do. You can be a total asshole.
/r/seduction06/02/10 08:27 AM
1

In your head. That's where everyone else here "games."
/r/seduction06/02/10 08:26 AM
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If you're posting here you're no natural.
/r/seduction06/02/10 08:25 AM
5

why do you hate me so much?
/r/seduction02/02/10 07:53 PM
3

a lot of them are more exclusively into alt/punk girls themselves.
/r/seduction02/02/10 07:13 PM
2

I'm pretty much a newb but I will say that negs can work, if they're done right. I have very little confidence, and the few times that I've seemed to get women really trying to get my attention, it was due to a subtle neg. But the thing is, a good "neg" has to be a little vague. The point is, you get her to stop and think, "was that a compliment or not?" If you're coming off as rude, you're doing it wrong. For instance: Him: Oh, your nails are so cool. Really colorful. Her: (Bored.) Thanks. Him:…
/r/seduction02/02/10 12:18 AM
2

Yeah, seriously dude, Manhattan? Your chances are optimal. OPTIMAL.
/r/seduction29/01/10 03:07 AM
1

if you go to a bar or a show with your girlfriend (i'm sure you've had at least one). do you sit with her the entire time and only talk to her? Yeah, I did. She was just like me, asocial -- that's why we got along.
/r/seduction29/01/10 03:04 AM
1

You know what? This conversation gets to the root of all my problems with girls. I think too goddamn much. Like, as soon as I read your reply, my brain immediately starts thinking "well no, you can't do that because then you'll have made it EVEN WORSE by proving that you didn't actually ahve anything else to do and then they'll know and then... and then..." Which is exactly why I can't just freaking relax, which is why I freak girls out. Come to think of it it's why I freak myself out. O.o
/r/seduction29/01/10 02:27 AM
1

and then bail?
/r/seduction29/01/10 12:38 AM
1

While we're on the topic of FTCs, what do you do if she says, after a few minutes, "Hey, didn't you say you had to go?"
/r/seduction28/01/10 02:13 AM
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