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"Text game" is just a tool. A tool that gets abused and overused. I personally enjoy the text game because I can do it when it's convenient for me (I happen to be very busy). E.g. I get 2-3 minutes between a meeting & I can drop a quick flirty remark. However I keep it limited. That being said - you are still right in that building attraction prior to #-close is the best way.
/r/seduction03/11/11 04:40 AM
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I dont mean to parade over your idea and your hard work but I have something like this on my iPhone. I use DropBox and I have a folder dedicated to pickup. In the folder, I have files for various topics. SMS banter, openers, etc. I can also update them anywhere. I guess this would be a good option for iPhone/BlackBerry users.
/r/seduction01/11/11 05:29 AM
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This. I'm no pro at giving them all the time, but when I do, I have a hard time getting them to leave my damn place.
/r/seduction28/10/11 08:20 PM
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Like others have posted, we should direct as many new people to the side bar as possible. I do see quite a bit of posts that I know the answer lays right in one of the links on the side bar. I think it would also warrant to have a link to "Best Of Seddit". This sub-reddit to me is more of an "organic sidebar of Seddit". Basically what this community has felt was of value is added to that sub-reddit. Mods are busy and can't always be updating the side bar. Plus, I've always felt the side-bar link…
/r/seduction13/10/11 09:10 PM
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r/QuotesPorn
/r/seduction06/10/11 08:06 PM
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"How old are you?" My response? "I'm 17"
/r/seduction04/10/11 04:40 AM
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Best to come up with a nickname that relates to something that occurred between you too. For example, I talked to one girl that had a serious face. I called her "Serious Face" all night. Nick name was dumb but worked. Edit: I was experimenting one night and I gave a girl the nickname "Uptight Bitch". As big of a jerk it may seem it also worked very well. Women are weird.
/r/seduction03/10/11 07:21 PM
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That is fucking hilarious. I love it.
/r/seduction03/10/11 03:46 PM
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The most important is to work on your confidence and Inner Game until the point where you don't have to look at a 'Cheat Sheet'. But you know what? All of us freeze at some point. Everyone gets that 1 text where they think, "How the hell do I respond to this?" This is also a good starting point for those who want to learn to banter or be witty.
/r/seduction03/10/11 03:39 AM
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What happens if I'm on a date and so are you and we happen to be at the same restaurant and we're both making comments about each other with our dates....
/r/seduction02/10/11 04:06 AM
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Say whatever is on your mind. Talk about anything. That's always what I read but it's so overwhelming and can make it very intimidating. I'm a big fan of Krauser PUA. He has video FR which I have watched & emulated on the streets. It helped me a lot because I had some "canned" but genuine openers to try & use. I still use them now as I'm working to overcome AA. You'll notice that over time you will be able to think more on the spot, talk about "whatever goes in your mind" like the "pros" suggest…
/r/seduction02/10/11 04:04 AM
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We could never date Elizabeth. It'd be all fights & make up sex. Taking that! Thank you! (Usable in person too) Good stuff too! Both of you seem to be having fun.
/r/seduction02/10/11 03:59 AM
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You seem uptight. We should date.
/r/seduction02/10/11 03:57 AM
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Our biology isn't changing - just the way people communicate.
/r/seduction01/10/11 03:25 PM
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This is pretty stupid. "I'm going to pump this chicks emotions over text, watch me!" Do you really think chicks (except maybe high school girls) are going to be emotionally attached and invested in a message? That's like saying people mean everything they say on the internet. It's a zero investment fire & forget system. I don't think they will be emotionally attached to my message - that's not even really the goal. You just want to reduce the chance of them flaking on you. If I don't talk to a g…
/r/seduction01/10/11 07:02 AM
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2 - "Built a solid attraction with HB. Date is within few days. => Text for logistics only" Exactly. If you have time for a date within the next few days, I would strictly do this. I'm scared that some people will use this as an example to delay asking a chick out. "Yo bro I'm just going to build attraction over text until I'm 100% sure she won't flake, this should take 2-3 weeks" Very good point.
/r/seduction01/10/11 06:40 AM
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Author is "Tyler Tray". The web site is www.TipsToTexting.com. I'm sure you can find the PDF somewhere on the Internet.
/r/seduction30/09/11 08:55 PM
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I might be interchanging words & concepts here... Although I think you've misunderstood the point of assume attraction. Assume attraction came up because guys look for signals or IOIs to escalate, not all girls give IOIs, sometimes by the time you get the signal it's already too late. Assume attraction means skip the attraction phase in the M3 model, and go straight to seduction. First of all, if I misunderstood "Always assume attraction" than I am confident that other aspiring PUAs will do so t…
/r/seduction30/09/11 07:40 PM
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Up 100%!!
/r/seduction30/09/11 07:26 PM
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I have Dropbox on my iPhone. I have a list of "SMS Banters" that I collect and use where ever I am. Large chunk of my banter came from here. Highly recommend you to read "Ultimate Texting Guide" too PING "I just ran into your doppleganger. I think she is more fun/crazier than you..." "I just met your twin in town, she wasn't as rude as you though :)" "Been hitting on many other guys today?" "Turns out I'm 20% more awesome today, how was your day?" "Guess what" "We need to talk, I think I might b…
/r/seduction30/09/11 07:22 PM
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Part of my problem when I was an AFC was that the advice I read was kind of "vague" with no direct structure. For example, you want to meet a girl on the street and don't know what to say? Just go and say "Hi!". I'd read this advice & think to myself "Ok..... next?". Concrete examples, stories, and some theories helped me overcome this because at least I had some material to try & review. So when I wrote this up, I wanted to help other aspiring PUAs by giving them at least some form of structure…
/r/seduction30/09/11 07:18 PM
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:06 PM
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Easy to hit up multiple women. Also easy to "ego-feed" in this situation. EX: "Hell yea, I'm talkin to three girls at once!" etc. So true. Even I get caught in this but I've realized it's just the early "taste of success". Your mindset of having the goal of GF/F-Close/etc is the right approach. Setting up a meet is crucial because with my particular style, building attraction is 1000x easier in person. 110% Agree. But reality can be a pain in the ass. For example, I met an HB 2 weeks ago. We wer…
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:06 PM
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Forgot to add this. You might want to check out Krauser PUA. He is a PUA that I follow.
/r/seduction26/09/11 03:58 AM
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I follow the rule "assume attraction" I too make that assumption. I made my previous statement a bit too vague. Although I assume attraction, I like to "add fuel to the fire". I'll use what I can (DHV, body language, humour, teasing, etc) to make the HB even more attracted to me.
/r/seduction26/09/11 03:44 AM
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I don't like direct openers but maybe that's also because I'm still a bit scared of rejection. Possible. You would have to reflect on yourself to answer that question. If it's fear than try going up to HB9/HB10 (forget the rest) and tell them you think they're cute. "Hey I was just over there and I saw you. I wanted to come over and tell you that I think you're cute. Love to stay & chat but I need to go". If she acts weird or gets upset, she is a fucking bitch (not really, ahahaha, but the minds…
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:35 PM
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I used Tyler Durden's famous line that works like gold every time, "I don't judge". I find this hilarious as I would have done the opposite and would have said something "Don't worry, I am REALLY good at judging. Now tell me!" in a playful yet demanding voice. I've done it in the past and has worked quite well if the HB has a sense of humor (she laughs, get's comfortable, etc etc). She's clearly interested in me, Was there kino initiated by her end too (not just yours)? If so, I'd probably say w…
/r/seduction25/09/11 11:17 PM
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If you have a problem, find a beautiful woman to help solve it. If you see a beautiful woman, find a problem she can help you solve. As a big fan of situational openers, I really like the quote above. It can really help with establishing a proper mindset in order to over come AA (along with others such as "Be outcome-independent", etc). However I've noticed with building attraction with a situational opener is a little bit more difficult. To an HB, you just may be another guy that's just asking …
/r/seduction25/09/11 10:10 PM
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Well done!
/r/seduction25/09/11 01:42 PM
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Talking and acting are two different things. Kino kino kino!
/r/seduction22/09/11 08:46 PM
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In addition, make sure you keep up intent with the make up putting on business. Seems you definitely did (kclose) but until I got to that part I thought "he's the gay friend they've always wanted" Hmmm. Good point. I knew at the time the HB8 was attracted to me so I had no problem. But I could fine-tune a situation like that where I make a deal. Say something like "I'll do it if the both of you give me a kiss on the cheek at the same time." (Even though in this case, they did it without me sayin…
/r/seduction21/09/11 05:00 PM
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Text her "You never write, you never call. The kids want to know when mum is coming home. What am I supposed to tell them?" (Source: another Sedditor - forgot who). It's playful & fun. In all seriousness, you have been persistent enough in trying to get in contact with her. This is a two way street. She needs to reciprocate the effort and if she doesn't, then you deserve better. She's suppose to feel like it's HER lucky day that you chose to meet her. I'd move on with this girl. For future girls…
/r/seduction21/09/11 04:37 PM
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I want to see some quality FR reports when you get back! Have a good time though :)
/r/seduction21/09/11 04:07 PM
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I recommend reading up Krauser PUA - He has video FRs which has helped me quite a bit with the transition phase (after opening a set). Good job though. Keep practicing. Any advice on how to get my reaction time down or how to re-engage once you've left? Walk slow. Take your time. Relax.
/r/seduction21/09/11 05:42 AM
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Find hobbies or activities that make you feel that life is just "awesome". For me for example, I enjoy photography. Especially working in a studio. Find activities that makes you challenge yourself. Forget about meeting women. These activities/hobbies need to be what you truly enjoy. And do them often. You will notice over time that you will be in a more positive mood. Always smiling. And that's because your interests are bringing positive value to your life. This will carry into your game. Look…
/r/seduction21/09/11 02:39 AM
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I like several of the examples under the Pings. I am just wondering how does the follow up conversation go for something like "We need to talk, I think I might be pregnant :)" Curious to know how girls have responded to you to such a statement. Good stuff & thanks btw.
/r/seduction17/09/11 09:58 PM
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Might want to check out r/QuotesPorn. They probably have one already.
/r/seduction17/09/11 02:27 PM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:44 PM
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Next time you go in there, flirt your heart out and see if the boyfriend thing is legit. Not a bad idea. I will do this if I see her again.
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:44 PM
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"Wouldn't appreciate what? You having fun? Sounds like a GREAT guy ;)" The BF-shit test completely caught me off guard. I came in thinking "Why the hell wouldn't she come with me?". But I did think of saying similar words above. However I opted not too because at the moment, I thought my only option was to be friends. I didn't want that. I'm happy though I came back afterwards to thank her, etc. I think it was a good approach vs some that just give the HB a "cold shoulder". Next time I see her, …
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:42 PM
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Stealing it! Thank you. What was the out come after?
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:29 PM
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Fuck. EDIT: Did not see the shit test coming.
/r/seduction16/09/11 06:09 PM
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Yes I think strong frame is the key. I see it with this mentality: "Not ready to keep going? That's okay. But I'm not going to waste my time. I can be doing better things." Not too long ago, I picked up an HB8 & I made attempts to close her. She stopped me after both of us did oral on each other. I tried few times but she resisted. Instead of stopping right there & then, I ended up just making out with her for ethe remainder of the night. Too be honest, it was boring as fuck. THAT seems more of …
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:18 PM
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Try again to finger her. More LMR. Something about how she's "moved too fast in the past, and doesn't want to again with me". Shit. This continues 2 or 3 more times. After about 10 minutes of this, I'm getting frustrated and starting to just lay off. I think you have attempted one too many times. If I'm with an HB that doesn't progress after I've tried 1-2 times, I just stop. I'll tell her something like "I understand you're not ready. Don't worry. Let's go find something to do" in a very pleasa…
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:53 PM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction15/09/11 03:02 PM
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Thanks :) I feel like I just stepped into a whole new world.
/r/seduction15/09/11 03:00 PM
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But (some) girls come to the bars/clubs looking for sex. So do the 100 approaches in bars, and you're probably gonna get some tail at least once. Why not? People are friendlier anyway. True except for the "People are friendlier" part. I usually find the crowd is mixed of nice & arrogant girls. And you can get a little drunk which makes it far easier to approach chicks. I am trying to be able to meet girls stone-cold sober.
/r/seduction15/09/11 03:00 PM
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100% agree.
/r/seduction15/09/11 02:55 PM
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I'm curious to know what you think about just straight up apologizing? I wonder if sometimes you can vibe as being a "real man" owning to his mistakes rather than just ignoring it. Do you think it may work in the game?
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:37 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to read the FRs! It was one of those nights where I was just on fire :) As for the HB8/gay guy, yes I am contemplating still whether to chase the HB8. However I am leaning towards putting effort & energy into working on my AA during daygame - I'd like to be able to meet girls in book stores, coffee shops, etc.
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:35 AM
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So... were her eyes really blue? "Don't ever say that to a girl, I'm not offended but girls don't like it when you tell them they're fake.", this was a shit-test, I kind of defended myself, but not too much, you should never defend yourself. Depending on what I say, sometimes I'll just back pedal a bit & say "Slow down there. I'm just trying to compliment you with a tease.". It's kind of defensive but it's also up-front & honest. Turns the negative into a positive. Great work though!
/r/seduction14/09/11 03:06 PM
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Not sure. One Sedditor pointed out I might be nervous about "taking it to the next level" which could be plausible. Sometimes I ponder about the logistics of the date and just think to myself "I'd rather do hobby XYZ instead of this. It's just as challenging & more rewarding". I thought I might be "over-selling" the date and making it too much work but to be honest, the ideas I suggest to the HBs are things I like to do.
/r/seduction12/09/11 09:24 PM
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Me too!!
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:36 PM
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Quick question though, and be honest. Are you losing interest because the girls themselves are not interesting, or because you're afraid of taking the next step? This is something I have reflected on. I don't know to be honest but I am willing to admit that it IS a possibility. I've found that if I masturbate I'm not nearly as interested in going out on a date as I am before self pleasure. Maybe stop masturbating and you will be interested lol Well that doesn't sound like a fun plan ahahaha. But…
/r/seduction12/09/11 06:46 PM
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Yes, it's text-book but I have found to have a profound effect. I got the concept of incorporating emotions from "Magic Bullet". After reading that book, I realized I've done such techniques naturally in the past but now I practice it all the time. The date idea itself is pre-meditated. I have a small list of activities I like to do that I'm willing to let an HB experience. I'll pick one that I feel is appropriate and then on-the-spot, incorporate the emotions & descriptions. My suggestion is to…
/r/seduction12/09/11 05:49 PM
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the second you're labelled as "forbidden" girls want you 100x more.. 100% agree. That's why my buddy and I grinned at each other right at the beginning. The cousin did all the work. All we had to do was just be the energy of the event. I've teased a girl at a shawarma place and the boss came and told her to stop talking to me. This. I will remember to tease when I get labelled as "forbidden". Thanks :)
/r/seduction12/09/11 02:23 PM
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r/GetMotivated.
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:33 AM
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What you two will be doing together (Paint an image for her) To other Sedditors, I could not agree with this more. I always paint an image for a girl that I'm with before #-closing. Try to incorporate emotions in your story. For example, I would paint an image to an HB about taking her to the CN Tower (attraction here in Toronto). The tower has glass floors high above where you can stand on top and look down. Freaky right? Before I would say "Hey lets go check out the glass floors at the CN towe…
/r/seduction12/09/11 03:51 AM
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In the real world, if you got good kino going on, strangers won't interrupt your set because you look like you're dating the girl.. This.
/r/seduction12/09/11 03:30 AM
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If you immerse yourself is it not possible that you may forget certain important aspects like staying calm, not fidgeting, etc?
/r/seduction09/09/11 07:22 PM
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I try not to be analytic during pickup. I'll tend to focus more on body posture & eye contact and not on "What stage in the Game Model am I in presently on?". Most analyzing is done after the fact.
/r/seduction09/09/11 07:08 PM
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Let me know how well this outline works. Looks very promising. I'm actually assembling one to help me work through AA during day game.
/r/seduction09/09/11 06:11 PM
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You want to say something complimentary or at least neutral, but in a way that makes her worry she's getting friendzoned. Interesting observation. I like the way you think. I think that was ideally what I was trying to do by qualifying her. Do you have any other examples of statements that could make a girl think she is getting friend-zoned? The concept is something I like however some examples would help solidify execution. Trying to figure out a way to turn the exercise comment around, but I r…
/r/seduction09/09/11 04:47 PM
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Yup, I'm an engineer so I have a bit of analytical skills. I do go a bit overboard but I felt like I made so many noticeable mistakes that I need to make note of it for next time. And that doesn't even cover my bosy posture & tone of voice. Lots to learn still!
/r/seduction09/09/11 12:57 PM
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Use your "friend-zoned" girls to your advantage. Spend time with them to build comfort of being around attractive women. You could also end up meeting their attractive friends too. No harm in practicing being charming around your female friends? Eventually you will have a level of confidence where you can begin tackling your AA and meet women. Don't like bars? Me neither. Make an attempt at day pickup.
/r/seduction09/09/11 03:44 AM
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Glad you enjoyed it! I'm trying to keep it in such a way that it wont be a pain in the ass to review it in the future. I agree with your thoughts above. PUA is becoming mainstream & I am finding it that people are taking the vague/basic concepts and filling in the details with their own perceptions. I have a buddy who loves the concept of having an alpha male mindset yet believes "being nice = weak". That's never the case. I have yet met a woman who called me out on game and "PUA attempts" howev…
/r/seduction07/09/11 10:53 PM
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I am glad you enjoyed the FR. Didn't have a goal really.. I was under the impression that I was just meeting up with HB-Friend to catch up. She had invited HB-8 to tag along at the last minute. What did you mean about coming to a different conclusion, if you dont mind me asking?
/r/seduction07/09/11 10:43 PM
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I am leaning toward option C too. But I also am the type that likes to go after what he wants & not wait for "faith" or opportunity. I have a solid chance of seeing HB#8 in 4 weeks at a party. However I can also try and run into HB-Friend & HB-8 where they work (both are waitresses at same restaurant). If so, I'd consider making it quick & direct: remind her of our plan, establish #, slap some kino and go from there.
/r/seduction07/09/11 10:38 PM
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I'm closer to HB-Friend than HB8 & HB-Friend are. However some HB's have this quirk that "every new, pretty awesome girl is their new best friend" and HB-Friend is one of those. I dont know what the impact would be if HB-Friend went to HB8 and said "Hey pua_inception likes you/thinks you are hot/etc.". HB8 is a waitress and thus receives a steady stream of attention from various types of men. Will I end up just now being "another guy that validates her looks?". However I think I've been able to …
/r/seduction07/09/11 10:28 PM
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G: “ I don’t usually do this” Me:”Neither do I… Are you trying to take advantage of me?” (I remove my hand and pull away from her on the corner of the bench while keeping a strong eye contact and smiling). Very nice response! I'm going to steal this :)
/r/seduction07/09/11 07:05 PM
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I like your response! Witty :) And I'm glad you enjoyed the FR. Trying to keep it short for everybody (even myself when I come back to review).
/r/seduction06/09/11 06:29 PM
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5 from that "Immutable Law of Pickup" is hard to swallow. But it has so much value. I will definitely look/create a lair here on Seddit. I've chosen to withhold this info from them but I've asked them to come with me in the next few days to a mall/downtown street to approach & talk to women. The way I see it is if we fail and get discouraged than it's back to myself being on my own. I definitely do not see failure with my friends as a means for me to stop pursuing. Thanks.
/r/seduction29/04/11 04:34 PM
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Hahaha my friends too are not great but they believe their game is good. I think I will "test the waters" by asking them to one day go downtown or somewhere during the day and meet/talk to women and go from there.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:19 AM
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Have you ever tried going out with someone in your local lair? Definitely agree on not talking about seduction/PUA to girls (Rule #1: Don't talk about PUA).
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:14 AM
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You sir are correct. Have you proposed to your friends to go downtown for the sole purpose of attempting to talk to women? I am considering doing that with my friends.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:13 AM
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Lucky for me I can be 100% certain. If I was to share some aspect of the community (or its entirety), they most likely will just respond with vague support such as "Yes I hear you. You know what your problem is? You just need to not given a fuck.". Good that I have positive support but the advice is vague. Reflecting on this, I think I am just looking for a "brother-in-arm" to push me when I am backing down.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:11 AM
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After telling your friends your personal goal of opening 20 strangers, did you ever consider bringing one of them to help you achieve your goals? Maybe not being directly involved in the opening but be there more for support (e.g pushing you to try when you are backing down)?
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:04 AM
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You think along the same line as I do. I visioned first learning & becoming successful. I visioned that my success would inspire others to follow the same path of self-improvement. Afterwards I'd be there to help. Success (and failure) speaks for itself. I just felt somewhat selfish for witholding this opportunity for self-improvement from my friends. However I can see how this can backfire. Thanks for the suggestion for finding a lair. I may very well just end up giving it a shot.
/r/seduction29/04/11 03:01 AM
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