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puaqueso/r/seduction28/01/11 11:34 PM
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puaqueso/r/seduction11/09/11 07:51 PM
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puaqueso/r/seduction04/06/13 11:08 AM
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puaqueso/r/seduction21/03/11 08:48 PM
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Gamestop
/r/seduction14/09/12 08:23 PM
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Yoga classes are 90% HBs.
/r/seduction11/09/12 07:04 PM
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it all depends on TONE imo. given the context, HW8 knew thats not what i was really doing. for anyone who was wondering, i kept playing it slow. she gave me a few more openings, but i never acted on them. i have a steady girl now, not looking to re-engage with any exes
/r/seduction05/08/12 09:51 PM
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Just keep asking questions. HBs love to talk about themselves. What's your favorite artist? Oh - How many times have you seen her? Didn't she win a grammy last year? My grandma/cousin/dog/hampster likes them too. If the music convo isn't hooking, use it as a segway to something else. Tell a funny story about a concert you were at that DHVs.
/r/seduction25/06/12 10:07 PM
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TLDR; Confidence. And Drugs
/r/seduction13/06/12 06:19 PM
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"I've had more orgasms this week than in my entire life"
/r/seduction18/04/12 05:59 PM
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i wish i could upvote 3 times
/r/seduction18/04/12 05:39 PM
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Great line. allows you to agree and amplify. Another personal favorite of mine: "I sell futures on the moon"(especially relevant in NYC, where theres lots of finance dudes)
/r/seduction12/04/12 09:28 PM
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2nded. This article is shit.
/r/seduction05/02/12 09:17 PM
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my understanding is that the seddit correct response to the "what's your number?" shit test is to agree & amplify. ie. Hb: "How many people have you had sex with?" PUA: "Do you mean just today? Oh, only 3." ::trollface:: I've found that this works well for me. I'm not sure about spunaround, and your mileage may vary. Best of luck.
/r/seduction05/02/12 09:12 PM
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it's a shit test. she's going to judge your response. see the sidebar post about passing shit tests
/r/seduction05/02/12 12:28 AM
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Still Counts
/r/seduction21/01/12 09:35 PM
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Nice line. I run a factory that makes factories that makes factories though. So she'll prob just go home with me instead.
/r/seduction05/01/12 01:14 PM
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Seddit pro-tip : self promoting your blog in comments is discouraged. If you want to submit a link use the 'submit' functionality.
/r/seduction05/01/12 01:13 PM
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Job titles are a shit test. I always liked these two response. I always like to respond with something irrelevant like "I sell futures on the moon". Bonus points if it's a good conversation starter.
/r/seduction05/01/12 01:11 PM
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http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/riker.gif
/r/seduction02/01/12 08:23 PM
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| I say 'sorry for making you wait'. I invite her in, she declines, Don't apologize for inane things. Or anything really. Just curious, are you a minority? If so, what was your vibe with AFCracist? What was the vibe between you and AFCex?
/r/seduction30/12/11 06:33 AM
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I live in New York, and the neighborhood of the HB is a big qualifier for me. If she lives in Brooklyn there's no effing way I'm going to make that effort.
/r/seduction29/12/11 05:50 PM
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and approach more often
/r/seduction28/12/11 11:16 PM
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This is passable, but won't escalate the interaction at all.
/r/seduction27/12/11 05:24 PM
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You must be trolling.
/r/seduction27/12/11 05:18 PM
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Nice try, Tim Cook.
/r/seduction27/12/11 04:37 PM
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| Giving value is addicting This. And so much more emotionally healthy than taking value.
/r/seduction27/12/11 02:26 PM
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Sounds like your friend of a friend is just socially perceptive and a good guy.
/r/seduction27/12/11 01:15 PM
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well, /r/selfhelp is that way ====>, but i think you should start small. smile every day. find a healthy workout routine. cut off negative relationships. invest in yourself. always
/r/seduction27/12/11 01:07 PM
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| You read something like "do not lean in, do not flatter a girl too much" and it clicks because you have picked up on it through your interactions but no one has actually articulated it. This is where I derive the most value from seddit. The community can articulate and solidify something for you that you've suspected for years. Or it can completely obliterate it.
/r/seduction27/12/11 01:06 PM
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I think seduction just fascinating from a social sciences perspective. As an engineer, I've always been obsessed with how things work. How are problems solved? What lever can I push to get xyz outcome? Studying, understanding and practicing seduction is developing in the art of attraction, which allows me to develop and articulate a life philosophy of giving instead of taking and abundance instead of neediness. Who wouldn't want that?
/r/seduction27/12/11 01:00 PM
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Romcoms are entertainment, not education.
/r/seduction27/12/11 12:58 PM
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This. If you carry the right frame "you must be a player" is an easy shit test to pass.
/r/seduction27/12/11 12:54 PM
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i'm appalled
/r/seduction27/12/11 12:45 PM
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+1 - cheesy is good as long as it comes with a trollface
/r/seduction27/12/11 12:45 PM
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: proceeds to widen eyes uncomfortably large :: /trollface
/r/seduction27/12/11 12:44 PM
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This. Cocky, Confident, just make sure you throw in a troll face.
/r/seduction27/12/11 12:42 PM
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/r/circlejerk is that way ==>
/r/seduction26/12/11 09:18 AM
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+1 - i'm incoherent after smoking. i do find its a nice night-cap once the deal is done / about to be done though
/r/seduction26/12/11 07:10 AM
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yeah what exactly does this have to do with seduction ?
/r/seduction14/12/11 09:34 AM
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This. What you're trying to do is a really bad idea.
/r/seduction14/12/11 09:30 AM
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Awesome. Looking forward to your next field reports.
/r/seduction07/12/11 07:21 AM
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to play devils advocate: couldnt you say that women give men shit tests to lower their social value and see how they respond? i know i neg women sometimes to see if they can roll with the punches (or even better, have a witty comebakc)
/r/seduction07/12/11 04:30 AM
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care to articulate the difference?
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:26 AM
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I typically open with something like this: Have I told you how wonderful you are? When I am with you, I feel like a whole new Smoove. Since you have asked me not to call you at work, I have opted to discuss your fineness through my column. I know we have known each other for only two weeks, but I already know you are the girl for me. You are the only one I want to laugh with, talk with, and grind on the dance floor with. You are the only one I want to ride. I am capable of bringing you to a stat…
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:24 AM
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Nice TLDR summary. I frequently get emails to my work address that read only "Please sir, can I have job?" ::facepalm::
/r/seduction07/12/11 03:23 AM
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|I think your mistake is waiting until you get her to the bedroom to kiss her. Escalate early and in public. A lot of the mPUAs on here have repeatedly mentioned that they kiss on the first date. It's super hot when a guy knows what he wants and makes it clear that he wants you This. Women respect a man who makes his intentions clear and doesn't beat around the bush. Establish yourself as interested in and worthy of her affection.
/r/seduction07/12/11 02:57 AM
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| One more thing, be fast! Girl says "I can't have a boyfriend right now", you say "yeah I dont like men either". This. Be playful, out-come independent, and take the hurdles in stride
/r/seduction07/12/11 02:55 AM
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Yeah. I'll tell you exactly what I do. I have this down pat. First, get more practice. After more practice, you will have K-closed on the 1st date. And not waited until the 3rd date or for her to get into your bedroom. Sometimes I even try to F-close on 1st date. It's all about judging her buying temperature. When in doubt, escalate. But be tactful about it. 1st date the kino starts immediately. Little things like grabbing her arm when you're making a point or touching the small of her back to l…
/r/seduction07/12/11 02:50 AM
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remember this word: kino. kino. kino kino kino
/r/seduction06/12/11 11:02 PM
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What's funny about this is that Cosmo, from my perspective, is vapid and shallow. Seddit (and game, in general) seems to run counter to all of the conventional mainstream 'wisdom' about relationships. Yet it is really about improving in relationships through self-improvement and self-actualization.
/r/seduction04/12/11 03:48 PM
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update: i f-closed HB9 last night. finally. i think this is a game changer. im much more comfortable just keeping the communication low to give her room to miss me now that i've f-closed.
/r/seduction03/12/11 03:54 PM
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update: i f-closed the HB9 last night. previously, id have been a little worried about losing her due to the travels and keeping things too 'light'. but now that i've F-closed, i feel like it's prettymuch a lock.
/r/seduction03/12/11 03:53 PM
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got it - thanks
/r/seduction02/12/11 06:42 PM
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This. You are a high value man and you are known and welcome in their establishment == social value.
/r/seduction27/11/11 10:36 PM
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kino. kino kino kino = k closes
/r/seduction20/11/11 12:28 AM
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well played; i can't say i wouldve handled that so amicably
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:49 PM
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Thanks for your comments. I don't advocate abstaining from tipping with waiters since they provided me personally with a service and it is commonly understood that the restaurant pays them a shitty wage but in this case I feel that: I sat there and listened to his music because of my social contract with the bar to purchase a drinks. He was there because the bar owner hired him to play music that night. They did not personally interact with me, announce that they expected tips, or provide me per…
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:19 PM
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fair nuff. thanks for laying this out. your opint about the logical vs. herd mentality was especially helpful.
/r/seduction25/10/11 09:07 PM
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in retrospect, of course i'd've done that.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:43 PM
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and what would you have done?
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:42 PM
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and what would you have done?
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:42 PM
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I'm not sure what point you're making by mentioning the relative value of the drinks ( I think there may be a typo somewhere in your post.. ) but... One could argue that the value of the music is priced into the drinks I'd purchased.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:42 PM
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fair 'nuff
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:39 PM
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To answer your question, yes, I have tipped the band on other nights IMO giving him a buck or two just to show off to my date is cheap and incongruent. I didn't feel obligated to him in any way since the price of his performance was already priced into my drinks, so I didn't throw him a buck or two.
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:39 PM
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The value of the music I am enjoying is priced into the drinks I bought. When did I ever agree, implicitly or otherwise, to be obligated to pay him anything? The guy just saw an opportunity to strong arm me in front of my girl. How is playing into his frame anything but beta?
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:38 PM
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Social Karma? Stealing? Seriously? He has a financial agreement to provide a service to the club owner, not me, and the value I am receiving is priced into the drinks I bought. When did I ever agree, implicitly or otherwise, to be obligated to pay him anything? The guy just saw an opportunity to strong arm me in front of my girl. How is playing into his frame anything but beta?
/r/seduction25/10/11 08:37 PM
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it sounds like he was polite about it though. i dont see where the disdain entered the equation
/r/seduction16/09/11 06:51 PM
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+1. this FR has oneitus written all over it
/r/seduction16/09/11 06:50 PM
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TLDR: Approach, Approach, Approach.
/r/seduction16/09/11 06:41 PM
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Fuck I wish I had my own place. yeah, get one. preferably with some sort of hook to use to get HBs back. the roof deck line is near perfect
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:05 PM
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part of me agrees with you, but part of me feels like old AFC queso would do something like that. i suppose the key is to maintain a strong frame but still while being respectful. you (obviously) can't force something this sexual. next time, she's getting a freeze out
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:03 PM
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could you run through the logistics of a freeze out? i've tried this before and the HB will just start saying 'ok, well i should go home now'
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:02 PM
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+1
/r/seduction15/09/11 11:39 AM
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you're better off just NOT sending it, and just asking your friend for an intro or hoping to meet her in person.
/r/seduction13/09/11 09:43 PM
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please format your next post into proper paragraphs
/r/seduction13/09/11 02:37 AM
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woops - didnt realize that wasnt a DM
/r/seduction12/09/11 10:47 PM
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was this an OKC date? how did you meet HB8?
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:41 PM
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sure - hit me up. edit: fix
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:40 PM
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no, it's a good thing. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/kd84j/insight_she_will_google_you_if_you_give_her_your/c2jdfj0
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:40 PM
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Full text, for those of you who are not members of the other subreddit: What a weekend. I #-closed 8 HB6-9s this weekend. I'm not posting to brag. I'm posting because I have an interesting insight about the approach I took with these # closes: After you # close a HB, I've discovered that she will google you if she is interested in you AND you give her your full time. I discovered this when reviewing my google analytics account after I #close 8 HBs this weekend. Let me back up for a second: I alw…
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:38 PM
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Ya did good son. Thanks brah. I've seen some of your posts around seddit. Seems you're doing well too. Day game is easier than night game, in terms of general conversation. But for me at least, it's much harder to close. That's why I prefer night game. What's your sticking point? I find that I'm closing close to 100% after the hook, with a simple "hey, lets hang out sometime, give me your #" If you look to me as an example (which I guess most people don't recommend), you'll see that I'm perfectl…
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:55 PM
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thank you for reading
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:50 PM
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Where do you live
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:42 AM
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You're right. The approach/hook has always been the tough part for me, which is why I focused on that. # closing has always been easy for me after the hook, so I left a lot of that part out.
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:41 AM
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kino kino and more kino - just make sure it's calibrated.
/r/seduction26/06/11 04:12 PM
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i photoshopped it really quick to look good on the iphone. have you installed it on your iphone? does it look good? because it does on mine. i don't see you doing any favors to anyone. drop the entitled attitude.
/r/seduction09/06/11 02:57 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/vSdmE.jpg
/r/seduction09/06/11 04:10 AM
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both of you should stop. you don't know each other. stop subjecting the rest of us to your flame war
/r/seduction08/04/11 03:35 AM
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If I had to say what my mistake was, it was strategy. I have tactics down now. I am getting good interactions and my practice is paying off with high-quality girls giving me opportunities. But I need to plan to close. For example, I could have followed HB7 to the club, isolated her and brought her back home. For some reason I thought going to bars and approaching new women was a good idea. But I need to stop practicing tactics and start thinking long-term strategy. It's all about logistics my fr…
/r/seduction03/04/11 02:16 PM
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100% agree with you. its a good date idea AND it solves a common logistics problem. two birds with one stone!
/r/seduction01/04/11 12:12 PM
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nah - it was only a 2nd date and i have a policy of not doing that until date # 7 or 8. for some reason, it just seems more intimate to me than sex.
/r/seduction01/04/11 12:12 PM
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yeah me too. thats why i let her read the NYTimes article on my laptop while i cut up the fruit. nothing says legit/safe (and fun!) like that article in the NYTimes
/r/seduction01/04/11 12:10 PM
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i'm always a little iffy about inviting HBs to start a date at my apartment on a 2nd date, even when i've heavily escalated and k-closed on 1st date. especially without a false time constraint, i think it sends a message that's a little too forward / sexual. i'd rather meet her someplace public and calibrate from there. if i don't close on 2nd date, then 3rd date always starts at my apartment and almost always leads to a f-close from there.
/r/seduction01/04/11 03:14 AM
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nah. it was the same as usual, surprisingly
/r/seduction01/04/11 03:11 AM
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sure http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/gfyjk/fr_2nd_date_fclose/
/r/seduction01/04/11 12:47 AM
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me too
/r/seduction30/03/11 10:05 PM
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this has happened to me before. in my case, i'd been out with the girl 3 or 4 times, so i wasn't gonna let it stand. i just calmly approached the guy, put my hand on his shoulder and said "sorry bro, she's with me tonight". put my hand on the small of her back and led her away. of course my situation was different because i'd already F-closed the girl. you need to calibrate how confident you are based on how much you care about getting her attention back from the other guy (in your case, you jus…
/r/seduction29/03/11 04:56 PM
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PUA BOT ONLY USES TRIED AND TRUE OPENING STATEMENTS OR ACTIONS BEEP BEEP BOOP WHY AM I FOREVER ALONE your comment is trolling because it does not add anything to the discussion. this is not /r/circlejerk. it exemplifies passive aggressiveness at it's worst. no one is asking for a tried and true 100% proven effective method. improvisation is fine. i was just asking for a field report in order to further understand the dynamics of the woman's reaction to the opener.
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:51 PM
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thank you for the FR
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:43 PM
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.... and in come the trolls
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:41 PM
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You can create your own subreddit yourself. You don't need anyone's permission. Once it's up, post a link to one of the mods and they'll let you know what you need to do to get it up on the sidebar
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:37 PM
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Work out. There's nothing to put you into a high energy state like the raw physiological state created by cardio and/or weight lifting!
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:35 PM
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2nd to that.
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:34 PM
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I didn't let my attention stray from HB8 for too long. Personally, I think this is a mistake. You should be flirting with everyone (male and female), making friends with everyone. Part of being alpha is making your abundance mentality clear. You HAVE OTHER OPTIONS than her. --Queso
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:29 PM
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there's a large number of dumb ideas on the internet and only a finite of moments with approachable women. it's fine if OP doesn't want to extrapolate, but you don't need to jump down my throat for asking.
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:25 PM
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it's not clear from the original comment that it's actually something that the poster had tried. i just asked for a FR. calm down.
/r/seduction25/03/11 01:23 PM
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has this actually worked for you? if so, FR please
/r/seduction24/03/11 11:19 PM
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like... a.. fucking.. boss
/r/seduction20/03/11 05:56 PM
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i 2nd that. this is entirely unrelated to seduction and only tangentally related to alpha behaviour at best
/r/seduction19/03/11 10:39 PM
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good point
/r/seduction19/03/11 05:41 PM
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i have a few followups. let me preface this by saying that i'm in no way judging you, just trying to understand your game. can you get into state without drugs? how old are you? what drugs do you use?
/r/seduction19/03/11 05:39 PM
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we hung out 4 out of the last 6 nights that's too much time together for a FWB. you're basically playing a game of 'chicken' with her. "who's gonna get tired of who first?" next time, try easing into hanging out more often. also, read the side bar before you post next time: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/estpo/frequently_asked_questions
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:15 PM
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It all depends on your skill level. My advice is to continue trying to escalate slightly earlier than you are comfortable with. You'll see your F-close timelines drop from 4 dates to 3 dates to 2 dates, sometimes even to 1 date.
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:13 PM
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practice practice practice. in other words - approach approach approach
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:10 PM
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agree. i like to call my mom/sister/grandmother/friends beforehand just to warm up my tongue.
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:10 PM
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this is probably the most awful piece of pickup advice i've heard on seddit this week. if you need alcohol to loosen up and talk to women, it's probably time to re-examine your inner-game IMO. also, you will have no day-game if you need alcohol in your game.
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:09 PM
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+1. it's true. don't give yourself time to get inside of your own head
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:08 PM
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I think you're right on the money. In retrospect, HB9 and I haven't been exchanging all that much in terms of emotional support (although my personality is to naturally be emotionally supportive I don't think I would even know how much that has resonated with her)
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:06 PM
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and you think this is good or bad?
/r/seduction18/03/11 10:04 PM
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Depending on the situation and how I feel like playing it, I either tease her about being jealous, basically ignore her while semi-staying on the topic- saying something like "I like you, and blah blah blah", or I've said shit like "That girl was nothing special, blah blah blah." I've not only been in situations like yours, but I've been in situations a thousand times worse- like she sees me doing more than talking to another girl, if you know what I'm saying. Golden. Thanks
/r/seduction18/03/11 07:47 PM
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assuming you mean 'say nothing', yeah, i think youre right
/r/seduction18/03/11 07:44 PM
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you're probably right. perhaps it's my inner AFC that is getting defensive
/r/seduction18/03/11 07:21 PM
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Everyone in this thread is on the money so far. You're fine. Even if the girl did see you and she's pissed about it for whatever reason, she's gonna be jealous. It's as simple as that. So if she brings it up (which reinforces the jealousy), take advantage of that. You're probably right. Curious to hear your thoughts on how I react when she gets confrontational.
/r/seduction18/03/11 07:20 PM
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let me be clear, i genuinely care about this woman. i'm just trying to provide enough context for seddit to give me the most appropriate advice.
/r/seduction18/03/11 07:19 PM
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i dont want to appear desperate by asking her to hang out all the time. we hang out 1x / week (sometimes 2x). just because i've F-closed her doesn't mean i have her wrapped around my finger. tl;dr - i'm giving her the space to miss me.
/r/seduction18/03/11 07:16 PM
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She'll either pretend it didn't happen, ask you about it and this will probably lead to her wanting to define your relationship, or she will start giving you the cold shoulder. I'm curious to hear what seddit thinks I should do in each of these 3 situations. pretend it didn't happen, easy. same old game plan. ask you about it and this will probably lead to her wanting to define your relationship, easy. i just need to be honest with her, then figure out how much i want to play it cool once the co…
/r/seduction18/03/11 03:42 PM
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We haven't spoken about exclusivity. (I'm not aware of a tactful way to set the tone for that in the first several dates. Are you?) In my head, there's no way I'm exclusive with anyone until we explicitly have that conversation. Do you think women view this differently? I would consider a LTR with HB9, but the conversation needs to come from her, not from me. Agree with you. Honesty, always.
/r/seduction18/03/11 02:54 PM
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hey sensitive, check out my response to bjorgein. curious what you think RE: 'the reality of modern dating'
/r/seduction18/03/11 02:35 PM
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she was there with friends. i was there on a date. i agree with you guys in principle, but the reality of modern dating is that she's going to take me down a peg in her book (or at least refuse to continue to F me) if she knows i'm F-ing other women
/r/seduction18/03/11 02:34 PM
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if you are talented you will still be on good terms with them, and therefore should be able to turn those chance encounters into new opportunities. it's only awkward if you make it awkward
/r/seduction17/03/11 10:02 PM
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(1.) 2007 - 1 girl ( my 8 year girlfriend) Today - I'll just say, over 100. Ever had a STD scare? If not, other than the obvious (use a rubber) how do you avoid them?
/r/seduction16/03/11 06:28 PM
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im a big fan of http://www.pickuppodcast.com/
/r/seduction07/03/11 07:09 PM
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lollolol. if you text that to her i will die laughing
/r/seduction06/03/11 05:20 PM
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very nicely summed up!
/r/seduction07/02/11 07:18 PM
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I think you just gotta take it in stride. Also, neg her back. Find a neg to use against her (she has a big bag, a lot of shoes, etc..). Just do it tactfully.
/r/seduction07/02/11 06:42 PM
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I actually met a HB8 in the gym 2 weeks ago. I tend to just make eye contact when attracted and make a comment if it feels natural (ie. the woman I met was wearing a marathon shirt and I am a marathon runner. Easy opener b/c marathon running is a good DHV). Obviously, it's all situational though. Don't make TOO much eye contact, especially if it's not reciprocated. Another good strategy. Just make conversation with everyone around you, regardless of attractiveness. employees, trainers, other gym…
/r/seduction07/02/11 06:39 PM
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i am not assuming OP is overweight. unless OP is in bodybuilder shape (0.01% of population), losing a few lbs would help build confidence IMO.
/r/seduction05/02/11 08:49 PM
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lol. simple. yet effective. love it!
/r/seduction04/02/11 04:22 PM
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all good points. thanks rzt.
/r/seduction04/02/11 03:54 PM
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All good advice. Thanks philo just imagine them taking a massive disgusting shit lollolololol... epic mind exercise
/r/seduction04/02/11 03:53 PM
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spinning discs is easy after f-close. just send a text message every couple days and call them up when you want to see them. i have 3 going right now. let me rephrase my question: how do YOU decide when to drop a chick?
/r/seduction04/02/11 03:52 PM
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kino is easy. make it implicit / accidental at first. then after she is submitting to that, touch her arm/hand during conversation. always feel out if it's appropriate, but also always keep pushing up the ladder.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:18 PM
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so the key to not fantasizing about a woman is to go and find someone better? i'm digging every day, my friend, but it is not everyday you strike gold!
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:16 PM
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MAC : "move in after completion" ~Always Sunny in Philadelphia
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:15 PM
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perhaps this was not clear from my original post, but HB9 has not been F-closed and HB6/7s have been. the concern is that i'm having all these thoughts BEFORE f-close, and they will affect my ability to f-close her. agree on the doormat comment.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:14 PM
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that just about sums up my mentality. makes total sense but harder said than done. thanks throwaway.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:12 PM
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now that you mention it, my schedule has felt a bit overloaded. any rule of thumb for how many plates you can spin at once?
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:12 PM
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did you ever f-close her? if so i'd be curious to hear how you pulled it off.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:11 PM
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This does not seem like it would work at all. Are you trolling? Reference please.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:10 PM
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From my response to ThrowawayPUA: HB9 is new (plate has been spinning for 1 1/2 weeks), whereas the 3 HB6/7s have already been F-closed and have been spinning from anywhere between 3 weeks - 7 weeks. I need another 4 - 6 weeks (at least) before I move in for the relationship, if that's even what I decide to do. In the meantime, the question at hand is how to treat a HB9 just like a HB6/7 when it comes to the balancing act of spinning plates.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:09 PM
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Agree. I guess the one thing I left out of my original post: HB9 is new (plate has been spinning for 1 1/2 weeks), whereas the 3 HB6/7s have already been F-closed and have been spinning from anywhere between 3 weeks - 7 weeks. My concern: If I do decide I want a LTR from this chick, I need game to pull her. If I'm thinking of her all the time (for this stage in the relationship), that damages my precision in my game and therefore my ability to pull her.
/r/seduction04/02/11 01:07 PM
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upvote to this. regardless of how much brass you have in your mouth, if you can lose 10 lbs from your normal frame, women WILL look at you differently.
/r/seduction04/02/11 12:30 AM
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Now comes the fun part. Turning this prospects into K-closes & F-closes. Any thoughts on how you're gonna do this yet?
/r/seduction04/02/11 12:02 AM
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Jump right into the deep end. Gotcha
/r/seduction03/02/11 11:42 PM
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any advice on how to do this? i get that putting them on a pedestal fucks with my game, i just don't know of any practical tips to stop doing it.
/r/seduction03/02/11 11:41 PM
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Thanks for the input. RE: the 3 minute response time. I agree with you in retrospect. Though, to be fair, she is giving me sub 5 minute response times on text messages and phone calls. Any thoughts on how much I should mirror this behavior vs. show inconsistency with response times? I am definitely putting this chick on a pedestal. I'm not sure why, but HB8/9 just rank higher than HB6/7 in my head. Perhaps it's just a psychological thing, but I find myself thinking of them more often. And that f…
/r/seduction03/02/11 11:39 PM
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As for the situation you describe, you just have to realize that some girls aren't going to do one night stands no matter what. Oh, I beg to differ :)
/r/seduction03/02/11 11:28 PM
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Right. I mean I get the value of keeping the mystery level high, providing value, etc. It's just a lot harder to do in practice. Comes with experience I suppose. Any suggestions on what to do to work-out my state? ie. if I want to be a faster runner, I'd go out and do sprints. If i want to get better at providing value while remaining shrouded in mystery, what exercises would i do? Any thoughts on how to build rapport without providing too much information about yourself?
/r/seduction01/02/11 10:15 PM
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with a round thing in your face
/r/seduction01/02/11 10:07 PM
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What market are you in? Perhaps it's much different in your city than here in NYC.
/r/seduction01/02/11 10:03 PM
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maybe post a sample for us? agree on the short messages post by cuilrunnings.
/r/seduction01/02/11 10:03 PM
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+1 on just talking to everyone without expectation. great for practicing increase of social value.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:34 PM
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you other brothas can't deny..
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:34 PM
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+1 to this. Set it up and I'm in!
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:30 PM
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Same here. rustoof. i think you make some great points.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:24 PM
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Make the initial message something concise and funny/insightful about her profile. It HAS HAS HAS to be customized to her. If not, she'll think you just copy/pasted the same message to 10 different chicks. I've got about a 40/60 hit ratio with messages using this technique.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:18 PM
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Nice work. Take it as a lesson learned and keep the frame up. Maybe you'll even F-close her soon.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:17 PM
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Framing the ASD response as a misunderstanding/joke - That's killer. Nice. Do you have any practical suggestions for how to frame the interaction as her needing to chase you? HB8/9s have a ton of choice... It's a real challenge to make them feel they have to chase me.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:14 PM
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Yeah. You're right. Probably should have changed the subject and offered to walk her home. BTW - you're right. 3 minute callback was a little desperate. Although she's set the precedent for quick callbacks early in the relationship by calling back within 5 minutes.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:10 PM
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lol
/r/seduction01/02/11 01:44 PM
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I disagree. Unless you are a jedi PUA (I am not), I find that pushing sex on the first date just causes a woman to raise her defenses. As soon as the "this guy wants something from me" flag is raised in her head, she is immediately on guard. I find it better to just charm the shit out of her on the first date (mild kino, but nothing over the top). Keep the rapport warm for a few days with text messages. Then second date I can begin working on converting that rapport / emotional capital into a F-…
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:49 PM
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Yeah probably was.
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:45 PM
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Good point. I'd never made the explicit connection to that in my head.
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:45 PM
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Nah we're in a big town. Thursday night, so I think it might have just been an off-night for this bar. Good Questions. I'd put her at HB7. Not sure how you measure alpha-ness in a woman (got any tips?), but it was pretty clear from 30 minutes into the interaction that I am alpha in this relationship.
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:44 PM
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basically what freun said above. although i would add that you don't even have to be that good of a guitar play to F-close. just show you are confident and can play a few songs. preferably a few playful ones, mixed with one or two that are going to play her heartstrings (this is a judgement call)
/r/seduction29/01/11 04:42 PM
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I'd be down. What part of town do you live in?
/r/seduction28/01/11 11:35 PM
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