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Compliment her on something she's wearing and see what happens.
/r/seduction01/12/21 07:59 PM
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This is the correct answer
/r/seduction01/12/21 07:58 PM
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Theoretically you're supposed to see the behavior modeled for you as a child, both by how your parents treat you and how your parents treat each other. Very few of us actually have loving parents or parents that genuinely love each other, and also there was a feeling that boy children should be able to ride things out with less affection when most of us were younger, which all creates a negative effect for us today. Here's the other thing... a lot of people are connecting on their damage. One pe…
/r/seduction12/10/21 07:39 PM
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yeah, and there's nothing about pick up lines that differentiate you from every other dude that's messaging her.
/r/seduction08/10/21 05:19 PM
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I suspected this. It might just come naturally to him.
/r/seduction08/10/21 04:52 PM
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Based on your post it sounds like you have a lot of work to do around confidence and self worth. You're not really supposed to get as down on yourself as it sounds like you are in the post. What to do about it? The easiest place to start is just Google "how to have confidence" or "books about self worth"
/r/seduction06/10/21 04:34 PM
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This is the right answer. Don't over think it. Just try to have fun at the party for yourself, without worrying about her from a positive or negative point of view. Being able to just be ~normal~ after a "rejection" is really helpful for generating attraction and comfort. For instance, she might just be confused about what she wants and seeing you be chill after she took space from you will catch her interest and have her feeling more safe around you. Girls talk too, so even if she's not into yo…
/r/seduction29/08/21 09:55 PM
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Lol. Maybe I came to the wrong subreddit.
/r/seduction04/06/21 04:28 PM
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I've been with at least 60-70+ women in my life. Maybe more. I've honestly never kept track. I would guess that more than 2/3 of the women were in my 35-40 years, spread out pretty evenly in there. I'm 43 now and have been in a relationship for the last two years. I was really clueless most of my life and didn't begin working on myself until later in life. I did some of the seduction stuff but actually had the most success once I began "unlearning" it and instead worked on my own emotional wellb…
/r/seduction12/05/21 12:33 AM
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I always thought this was standard... I guess it gets fuzzy for first dates when you met on something like Tinder. In those cases, you're both on the app with the intention to meet somebody, and usually one is asking the other to "meet up" rather than go on a "date." I always did coffee/tea "dates" for these situations in the past. It just takes the money tension off the table. Maybe I spend $4 extra dollars. Maybe she buys her own tea. It's not a big deal. If she resents not being taken out and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 08:26 PM
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This is what I ended up doing for my own dating life and it works so much better. It takes a lot of the pressure off and you can just get to know each other for an hour or so before either of you goes off investing $50+ and a Saturday evening with each other. I heard later that some women were put off by the watered down date, but honestly, that just reaffirmed to me that I was never destined to have much of a connection with that person anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:13 PM
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Fwiw, the best initial response probably would have been something like, "Cool. Good luck with the meeting. If you want to reschedule, let me know." It shows that you're 1) not needy, 2) are able to shift gears and take care of yourself and 3) that you "get it," in that you understand that she wasn't that invested in the date simply because it was the first date, you don't know each other yet, so who cares? You weren't that invested either, right? ;) Maybe she wasn't interested. Maybe she's just…
/r/seduction20/08/20 05:08 AM
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The 'strong silent type' is the less of two Hollywood mythologies at play here. You can get away with it if 1) You're extremely handsome (a rugged handsome for extra points) and 2) you have a outwardly visible history of high value actions that you can let represent you in the absence of words. The bigger reach in real life is the model gorgeous woman that just so happens to be available and interested in you based on nothing but your good looks and apparent lack of words. This scene from Layer …
/r/seduction17/06/13 09:52 PM
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Good on you for getting out there and doing it! You'll learn. Things will get better. :)
/r/seduction08/06/13 09:10 PM
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This cannot be stressed enough: FIND THINGS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND GO DO THEM. Obviously, if you like video games that's going to limit your interactions but if you're in a medium to large size city there should be plenty of social groups to work with. Political groups - Young Democrats / Young Republican Hiking and Outdoors Groups Creative Groups - writing and/or painting classes Volunteer - Helping homeless or underprivileged groups Church Athletic Groups The list goes on and on. Expand your…
/r/seduction23/05/13 06:48 PM
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Alcohol is a depressant. I quit drinking for awhile, then went back on and noticed a very distinct difference in my mood and confidence. I felt palpably depressed. I could feel it the same way I could feel a cold. It was weird. Plus, being the sober one at a bar can be like MIND CONTROL on some people. You are two steps ahead of everybody.
/r/seduction26/01/13 07:05 PM
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This is awesome! One thing that stood out to me as the unique side of the challenge for women is that when you get this direct, the guy is going to start thinking he's in the fast lane to sex. I'm trying to think of the times a girl hit on me so directly before, especially in my old AFC days. 1) I would always assume (wrongly) that since the girl hit on me, she must really like me and I would let my guard down and not game the girl at all anymore thinking I was already in. Big mistake. The girl …
/r/seduction21/08/12 05:37 PM
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Yeah, I don't want to bother learning all that stuff... although it might be worth learning the difference between fire/water/earth/air signs. That narrows the odds to 1 in 4.
/r/seduction20/08/12 05:09 AM
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Are you in college?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:30 AM
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I'd love to get more details on this. How did you manage to guess their astrological sign?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:30 AM
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Do you have any hypnosis tapes you can recommend?
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:25 PM
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This is keen advice. The couple girls I'm thinking of we actually got into pretty intense and positive conversations on other things and the whole 'philosophy on dating' conversation didn't happen until the second or third date. But yeah, clearly stating intentions and attitude right out of the gate goes a long way. The more I've been thinking about it, this is just an attitude that will prevail in everything you present if you're honest, believe it and you're doing it right.
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:19 PM
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This is good in theory but doesn't always work in reality. Granted, you definitely need to give the girl her space and not be calling, texting, etc daily. I'm sure upper level PUAs can sit back and let the girls call them, but for a lot of us still learning, we gotta sack up and call the high quality girls lest they just settle for one of the other shmucks that's calling them.
/r/seduction14/08/12 11:16 PM
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Just read it. This document is good. I've been having the same problem with the first part of the interaction after the opening for awhile now and this document really spelled things out for me just now.
/r/seduction10/08/12 01:47 AM
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Ha! Thanks. Unfortunately it's not what gets me laid.
/r/seduction09/08/12 11:30 PM
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This sounds generic though. This sounds like what every other guy would say to the girl.
/r/seduction09/08/12 11:15 PM
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You can also drive some girls into being overtly sexual by building more and more sexual tension... Can you be more specific and give some examples of how to build sexual tension?
/r/seduction09/08/12 11:14 PM
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If anything you should wait for her to ask these questions, then tell her some interesting anecdotes and funny stories to make her do the same for when she tells you. I get this but what do you talk about, or what do you say or ask her as you're waiting for her to start asking these questions from you?
/r/seduction09/08/12 11:12 PM
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This is interesting but I'd still love to get some examples of tension conversations.
/r/seduction09/08/12 11:07 PM
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Really cool field report. Thanks for posting!
/r/seduction06/08/12 03:23 AM
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Try to be observant. Notice things about them and ask. Sometimes just dumb questions... I used to see a girl with something on her shirt and wonder, 'hmm... I wonder what that thing on her shirt means.' But I wouldn't do anything about it. Then I improved to asking them about what was on their shirt. Then I started asking girls what was up with their shirt whether there was something printed on it or not. Notice their clothes. Notice their shoes. Notice their jewelry. Notice their voice and how …
/r/seduction05/08/12 07:53 PM
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The bag trick is too much. You gotta find a girl to watch your bag, go in the water, come back, dry off, hope she (and your bag) are still there... Try saying this: "I think you're cute so I'm her to say 'hi'" If that's too much for you you can scale it back to: "I like you're style so I'm here to say 'hi'" It's daunting, I know. But try it. Make it worth your gas money. ;)
/r/seduction05/08/12 05:08 PM
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I think the other post about this being a shit test has some validity. It could also be that she was intrigued by you but had to be some where soon so had to keep walking. The solution might be to meet her half way. Say something like, "I'm actually meeting some friends the other way but I'll walk the first two blocks with you." That gives you a little more time but keeps you in control of the interaction.
/r/seduction05/08/12 05:04 PM
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I think you're thinking about it wrong. If you like a girl or are attracted to her, you are. It doesn't matter if you got five girls at home or not. That might raise the bar but it won't kill your attraction for other women. If sex is something you partake in often, you're going to talk about it and get comfortable talking about it. You could talk at length and any other hobby you've got, why not sex? I feel like you're coming from a place of neediness and that's messing you up. Creepiness almos…
/r/seduction05/08/12 04:58 PM
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This comment says it all. If she's attracted to you it doesn't take much. She'll follow you on any trumped up excuse you come up with. She'll probably know too. I've used, 'Come here. I wanna show you something.' But sometimes you do have to make something up. Don't wait for a natural reason.
/r/seduction05/08/12 04:12 PM
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Man... This sucks to hear, but thanks for posting it. You're totally right. It definitely comes down to self worth. I get really tied up on that, thinking that I'm not worth it or don't deserve it. But I am a good guy and chicks should want to be with me. I need to remind myself of that every day.
/r/seduction05/08/12 04:03 PM
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This is all good advice. For the situation I was thinking, things haven't quite escalated yet. It's still in the initially meeting the girl, especially the approach and the first couple lines of direct game that fouls me up.
/r/seduction05/08/12 12:43 AM
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I'm not going to lie. I do get caught up in what other people will think. I can rationalize that they'll be envious that I have the balls to do it but sometime I get stuck. I don't worry about failing to the girl but I do worry about other people seeing me fail, which makes it tough.
/r/seduction05/08/12 12:42 AM
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This is good advice. I typically do try to do the thing where I acknowledge the watcher when it's appropriate. Where I tend to get screwed up is the higher leverage moments. Like the approach and when it's time to go very direct. These are challenging enough as is and that just gets magnified when I perceive somebody to be watching or listening in.
/r/seduction05/08/12 12:40 AM
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This is very true. I'm thinking about this more and a lot of the seduction advice we read is just as much about getting us to a 'strong state' as it is laying out the nuts and bolts of seduction. So maybe I need to start a new thread about material women can read and check out to put them in a strong state. Because from my experience all the women's magazines do it beat chicks up and make them feel even shittier about themselves.
/r/seduction04/08/12 04:06 PM
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Again, don't beat yourself up over this. All the things that you're worrying about above are classic 'beginner mistakes'. You'll learn. It will get better with time. You're certainly not 'ruined'. The fact that you're looking at all these things, being conscious of them and being honest with yourself is HUGE. Very few people in the world learn to do that. Just go out and enjoy yourself. Fall in love get your heart broken, break hearts, hook up, have flings, whatever. You're about to embark an aw…
/r/seduction03/08/12 01:26 AM
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Just to clear this up, YES, she finds herself with plenty of options but not the kinds of guys she wants. She actually has much more success in 'quantity' then me, but the 'quality' department is very lacking in her life. This is actually a more common problem for a lot of women then guys think.
/r/seduction02/08/12 02:20 AM
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Awesome field report! Don't stress yourself out about the mistakes you made. IT WAS YOUR FIRST LAY!!! You're bound to make mistakes along the way. You wouldn't be beating yourself up this badly about making mistakes you're first time through anything else in your life. I think it's great the way you realize what your mistakes are, just don't get bogged down by them. I also think, as an experience, that it's great that you fell for her a bit. These are the kinds of things you need to experience t…
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:50 PM
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Awesome honesty. Thanks for sharing. One thought, as you're getting started don't let those sayings like "Don't stick your dick in crazy" hold you back. Experience for yourself what happens when you stick your dick in crazy! It sounds like you're bright enough and self-aware enough to deal with it when shit goes down and recognize you're own reactions as such. So go experience the world!
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:45 PM
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Fair enough. I appreciate the alternate take.
/r/seduction01/08/12 02:58 PM
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What type of advantage do you think you have? How do you capitalize on it?
/r/seduction01/08/12 02:34 AM
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Just to clarify, this isn't about being afraid or uncomfortable in bars. I'm mostly just sick of going to bars. Been there, done that.
/r/seduction01/08/12 02:33 AM
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Thanks! This looks like an awesome site.
/r/seduction01/08/12 02:29 AM
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I go out solo quite a bit. Like you, I've had trouble with wings and don't want to worry about it anymore. A couple things: 1) It helps ALOT to go somewhere you're comfortable. It doesn't need to be some place you go regularly, but at least be the 'type' of bar or venue you like to go to regularly. 2) Sometimes if I'm meeting friends out, I'll try to go out an hour earlier than I'm supposed to meet them and try a couple sets at a different bar nearby. It always give you the 'meeting friends' lat…
/r/seduction31/07/12 09:32 PM
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I'm not much of a bar or club guy but the very few times I do go, I've found that working game in a line is so important. What's funny is I see so many bars in my city with big giant lines and everybody just standing in line looking anxious and/or grumpy. Is the idea of being social in line really that hard to grasp? The main attraction once you get inside will be the people... The same people who you're waiting in line with right now!
/r/seduction11/07/12 06:28 PM
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That's actually not a bad game. You can make it fun and sexual pretty quick too. If you have the right frame the stakes are the same or higher for her as they are for you.
/r/seduction11/07/12 04:34 PM
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I agree that you always have to keep it short, but I think you also can't just go straight for the jugular by asking for the date in the first 1-2 texts. I always have better luck joking around for a text or two and even leading up to asking a girl out by asking her if she has plans for some fictional holiday I make up that falls on this Thursday. Sometimes I even let this conversation go on all day by just spacing out my responses.
/r/seduction11/07/12 04:34 PM
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I think what he's trying to say is maybe you need to learn to be more natural. All MM and MB tricks are good and worthwhile, but before long you need to internalize them so they come out naturally. In my experience, sometimes it has taken letting go and just trying a completely natural approach. I didn't think about DHVs or kino or anything, but when I recollect the situation to myself, I did it all naturally now. Regarding the anxiety about women getting the impression that you just want to fuc…
/r/seduction20/06/12 06:31 PM
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It's not just about going for the kiss. It's about making your intentions known. It's something you need to learn to embody, that as the man you are a sexual being and want the girl. Even just giving them sexually suggestive compliments early in your interactions will help as long as they don't come from a place of neediness.
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:18 AM
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I love this story because it just shows that women are nervous and sometimes don't know what to do too. For the OP, I'll bet that more than 90% of the girls you kino'd but didn't kiss left thinking: 1) What's wrong with me? Why didn't he kiss me? 2) Huh. I guess that guy didn't like me after all. What a tease. or 3) What a fucking pussy that guy was!
/r/seduction16/06/12 12:39 AM
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Good job. It's tough getting out there so I commend you.
/r/seduction15/06/12 03:57 PM
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Interestingly enough, there are a couple posts on the front page of Seddit right now about sexual tension and escalation. Go read those.
/r/seduction14/06/12 06:35 AM
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Some resistance isn't uncommon. She may want you to work a little harder. Or she may be a tease. Or she may see you as safe boyfriend material. But just assume she wants you to work a little harder. Let the 'no' roll off like water on a ducks back, go down a couple notches and then start re-escalating again. If you made out and she's texting you the next day, that's a good sign. Just play it cool. And keep approaching other women. Don't put all your chips on one bet.
/r/seduction14/06/12 06:26 AM
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Having girls post on your facebook is all good. It shows pre-selection, that you're a high value male and should be a boost for your confidence as well. If you're honest about who you are and your lifestyle it shouldn't be a problem. Side thread: Has anybody ever deleted a girls comment and gotten an interesting reaction? I once sent this girl I was seeing into a tizzy (in a good way) by deleting one of her facebook comments. She interpreted it as me not liking her and went way out of her way th…
/r/seduction13/06/12 05:23 PM
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Good for you. It's tough at first. Just start by talking to anybody and it will get easier from there. People are in public so they can't complain if somebody tries to talk to them. I think what scares people is if you're giving off a vibe that you won't know when to leave if the conversation is done. The coffeeshop by my house gets really crowded sometimes. I've met a couple girls by offering to share my table with them. If they like you they don't care where they meet you or how.
/r/seduction12/06/12 01:10 PM
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I found what worked best for me was to work towards becoming more generally social. After that approaching women wasn't as big a deal. I started by opening anybody. Old ladies, guys, extending conversations with people I met, like baristas and grocery store checkers. That type of thing. I also started approaching attractive women with no intent to try to pick them up. Just asked for their advice on a place to buy clothes, or asked them about something they were wearing. This helped me with a lot…
/r/seduction10/06/12 04:04 AM
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Well, fuck... I was working on a response to this and then I think I answered my own question and exposed something I need to work on all at the same time... In the past I've always hidden my shyness and cluelessness behind being aloof and disinterested. I was afraid to put myself out there so I pretended I didn't care. Now that I'm learning game and getting better, I try to transition away from not caring and I saw the opposite as 'giving chase', which was validated by a couple quick conversati…
/r/seduction30/05/12 08:14 PM
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Library. Coffeeshop. Book store. Mall. Clothing store. Park. Festivals. Around town. Everywhere really. When I was getting started I used to go a couple towns over so I could take my lumps without it getting back to people I knew at home.
/r/seduction27/05/12 09:11 PM
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I have trouble with this as well, but I've been learning. The point about the dancing monkey is really important. Make sure you're being funny for the right reasons. A couple things I've learned: always kino, but without being too handsy good sexual jokes are magic try to create one-on-one opportunities with the girls. This let's you have more serious and deep conversations to get to know the girl. The last one I've found to be really important. Anything you can do to get alone, or at least away…
/r/seduction22/05/12 03:55 PM
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This is interesting. I do a lot of the stuff people have mentioned so far but sometimes the conversations just don't go anywhere. Is there a way to calibrate if it was a situation where I failed to create more attraction vs a situation where the girl and I just aren't compatible?
/r/seduction04/05/12 06:13 PM
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I feel like I do this too but I don't get the results. Can you be more specific or give an example of a recent conversation?
/r/seduction04/05/12 05:02 PM
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Getting started is tough. The comment about approaching and opening everybody (girls, guys, old ladies, etc) is really important. One thing that worked really well for me was the StyleLife Challenge. It's thirty incremental challenges to get you more and more socially open. By Day 11 I had made a massive change in my life.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:07 PM
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I know. It's upsetting to me too because I think about myself before I started to learn this stuff and see the parallels. It's tough though because if you just aren't feeling it you aren't feeling it. And what more can you do?
/r/seduction31/03/12 11:48 PM
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Yes, I definitely feel that girls are confused by it more than anything else. Once I get past that it's fine.
/r/seduction30/03/12 02:47 PM
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I found 'Rules of the Game: The StyleLife Challenge' by Neil Strauss to be really helpful. It has thirty daily challenges, starting you off as a person that's presumably never left the house before and has you picking up girls in less than a week. I found some of the early challenges really eye-opening. Just the way people change their reaction to you when you complement them. You gotta get out in the field but if you find yourself getting overwhelmed just take it step by step. This book is good…
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:31 PM
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Really? I thought this book was a bit strange. A lot of the strategies were acquiescing. I'm not saying it's all bad but if you ever take a moment to stop and think about what the other person is thinking or feeling this book isn't all that necessary.
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:27 PM
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Dude, you're fine. Everything you said is fine. Chick friends are awesome. One of the things I've learned through pick-up and seduction is how to take women off the pedestal and learn to treat and interact with them as actual people. I didn't do this before. I revered them as angels and that's fucked up because it disacknowledges the actual person. The fact that you have female friends and you're 100% fine with that relationship is a good thing.
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:25 PM
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Start by being generally social. Open anybody that comes within 5ft of you. Talk to people in front of you and behind you in line at the grocery store or coffeeshop. Ask them about their shoes, or car or the book they're reading. Make an observation about a magazine cover. Or just drop compliments and see how that feels.
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:18 PM
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One of the things I learned is you need to start becoming this person at all times, not just when cute girls are around. Try turning on the charm to everybody around. Flirt with old ladies. Compliment one of the other dudes at the gym. Don't make it sexual. Just practice being charming so when a cute girl comes around you're already on. When I first started out, I'd attempt to initiate conversation with anybody that got within five feet of me. It helped a lot and took away some of the build up a…
/r/seduction24/03/12 04:07 PM
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I have a different take on the phone/in-person debate below. It's all about being direct and upfront. In person is always best, but if it's somebody you won't get to see for a week or so, you have to do it over the phone. There's no point in dragging it on with her. Here's a scenario. You've been seeing a girl for maybe 2-3 months. It's not bf/gf but there are some expectations for the relationship. It's Monday, you have plans for Thursday, but you already know in your heart that you're not into…
/r/seduction22/03/12 04:14 PM
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This one of the best and worst aspects of learning game and seduction. It's the best because now you get to be the one calling the shots and turning girls down. Personally, when I got more accustomed to breaking things off, I found that I became more adventurous with the girls I would pursue. But it does suck to break it off with girls, especially if they liked you a lot and/or take it hard. There's only one way to do it. You just have to be a man about it and tell her that you don't want to hav…
/r/seduction22/03/12 03:59 PM
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I found that book to be really helpful!
/r/seduction20/03/12 07:48 PM
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That's an excellent point! Many of my females friends first came across as stand-offish, even bitchy to me at first. Later I found out that they were just shy, but really cool. By the time I found this out the friend-zone had been pretty firmly established on both ends. But it's definitely an insight I want to keep in mind going forward.
/r/seduction20/03/12 07:24 PM
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"Sometimes, the more forward you are, the more they shut down" I've often found this to be the case too. That was part of the reason I posted this question. Glad to know I'm not alone. :)
/r/seduction20/03/12 07:09 PM
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Alright, so as a shy girl: Asking questions, yes. Direct game, no. Where is the best place to meet a girl like you? Bars always seem like a difficult place to make a connection. Also, is there a moment where you feel like, 'ok, i'm comfortable with this guy now'? At what point do you feel like that feeling is reached?
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:29 PM
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Nice. The reason I bring this up is because I'm guessing most guys on here are or were once 'shy guys'. But we'd like to think that we are pretty good guys and many of us were just waiting (foolishly) for the right girl to open us up. The logical corollary is there are lots of shy girls out there that are probably pretty awesome, but they just need the right guy to open them up. Do you think this is true?
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:12 PM
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Hmm... very good point. but I feel like there is still a 'shyness barrier' that can be broken through. Like, she's actually a very good social competent person, but when it comes to meeting new people, especially guys, she might be a little shy. I guess I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to keep pushing it directly, as long as you're getting positive signals, that just might not be as overt. Or if there is a way to dial it back and try a different way. Or just move on altogether.
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:44 PM
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I like this post. I felt the original post was a little too skewed in the 'stoic man' direction. The truth is you do need to have emotions and be honest with yourself about them, not keep them bottled inside. But you do need to keep them under control also and realize that you need to be the strong man. It's a tough balance to find.
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:32 PM
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That's interesting. Can you give me an example scenario?
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:14 PM
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I've tried going the direct route before and I felt like it just intimidated the girl and made me feel like a brut. The calibration point was a little bit more at what I was getting at. It seems like you need to try 6-8 kino moves to get one in return. Has anybody else experienced this?
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:14 PM
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