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What may be common sense to you may not be the case for others. If you don’t find it useful, move on. But for others it maybe be just what they need.
/r/seduction15/10/17 12:38 AM
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He's concentrating on building his own business as far as I am aware (have no idea what business but I do believe that it's not anything to do with pickup)
/r/seduction27/07/16 02:07 AM
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He's retired from teaching.
/r/seduction26/07/16 07:33 AM
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Hey man, With your journals check out this link. His 3 questions is something that I started doing and it has really helped me. He goes into more detail in the post but the 3 questions are: What went right? What could have gone better? What will I do next time. http://www.danwildcard.com/journal/
/r/seduction15/04/16 02:39 AM
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A lot of it more depends on the vibe and the feel of the interaction. If you feel the sexual tension in the air then a simple "I want to kiss you", then go for the kiss is enough. I'v had interactions where i got the kiss 2 hours into the interaction and others 5 mins into the interaction.
/r/seduction20/11/15 02:05 AM
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Both college/night/day/ect all stem from the same skill sets. The difference between each type of setting is the calibration of each skill. For example, in day you wouldn't be as physical and as playful as you are in night, you would use more comfort and rapport building. However if you use the same level of comfort and repport building in the night as you do in the day most sets are going to walk off because you can't keep their attention. In each scenario you use all the skillsets but its the …
/r/seduction19/11/15 04:41 AM
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Record yourself. Every day for 5mins talking about whatever and listen back to it. Take note at what you are doing and not doing and try and improve each day. You'll get better over time.
/r/seduction19/11/15 04:35 AM
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Because looks aren't everything. Looks are only a very small part of the reason why women are attracted to who you are. Ask yourself, are these girls attracted to me straight away or is it over time (i have a feeling that it is over time because of the way that you talk about yourself). If it is over time then the girls most likely saw you as confident, a person who treats others in a way that is attractive or treats them in a way that is attractive, saw that you have passion for your hobbies in…
/r/seduction17/11/15 05:41 AM
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The social circle video series is very good. It explains everything is very easy to understand manner. But like most things out there you still need basic skills in game. The video series just talks about how you should calibrate those skills in game to work for social circle.
/r/seduction17/11/15 05:34 AM
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This goes for either gender. You will find that the dynamic is actually the more one likes the other, the more they can make mistakes and let things slide. But the less that one likes the other the less that mistakes can be make.
/r/seduction16/11/15 05:26 AM
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Day game is a lot tougher than night game. There is a lot of stuff that is working against you in day game in comparison to in night game where a lot of stuff actually works for you. I think it is worth it because once you have it down you can approach girls pretty much anywhere and in my experience I see a lot more cute girls during the day then i do during the night because a lot of girls have lives that stop them from going out. The first thing i notice is your mindset In my city most of girl…
/r/seduction11/11/15 02:27 AM
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This is the sort of thing that i'm playing with at the moment as I can talk and talk and talk but it never goes anywhere. Just last week I was with a french girl and I said "Oh i am trying to learn french (which i am). Can you teach me to say 'I want to kiss you' in french". She tried to tell me a once or twice and then she just said "Say it in english". So i did "I want to kiss you" and went for it. Another time I didn't get the kiss but got such a positive reaction. I got close to her and said…
/r/seduction04/11/15 03:14 AM
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A lot of free stuff out there is usually marketing, as it completely ignores the work and the many sets that you have to go through. What you see on the video was one set out of possible 10-20 sets or even more. A personal example is last week I went out was opening every girl in the place and none of them were having a bar of me. I then met this girl started talking to her and we hit it off instantly and within 5mins we were making out. What you see on videos is possible but no one no matter ho…
/r/seduction03/11/15 05:38 AM
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Go out by yourself. If girls/guys ask, just be honest and say "Yea i just moved here so I'm out to meet people tonight".
/r/seduction29/10/15 01:41 AM
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Firstly while there is nothing wrong with dating in your social circle the major problem is that you are limiting your options. I mean look at cold approach at a bar compare to social circle. Sure social circle is good because you use your value in the group to be attractive and you get to know the girls better however your limited to those girls and if you screw it up with those girls that will effect your social circle and everyone's feelings about you. However the power in cold approach is th…
/r/seduction12/10/15 01:59 AM
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Preface: I know a lot of people won't like that i'm telling him to use lines but this is about getting him to approach. Once he can do that fine then he can start using his own stuff. First, give yourself a stock opener so you don't have to think about what to say. It can be anything "what's the time", "You look cute i had to talk to talk to". Anything that you are comfortably with. This will stop you from thinking "oh shit what do i say i can't think of the perfect line". Second, create a mantr…
/r/seduction09/10/15 07:27 AM
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don't masturbate as much. You don't have to go all /r/nofap but if you give yourself a week without jerking it, you will notice a difference.
/r/seduction09/10/15 06:09 AM
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Your physiology is pretty messed up. I'm going to preface this with, I think you are better off getting some professional help over listening to ransoms on the internet who most likely don't know what they are talking about. However, ignoring the first thing that I said, I think your first issue is your idea of basing a person's worth on how many women they have slept with. That is a clear problem because it instantly paints you in your own mind as a looser. Having a belief that paints your self…
/r/seduction09/10/15 05:21 AM
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You're looking too far ahead especially seeing as you are still a virgin. If it was that easy as to say "oh should i sleep with this girl or that girl" then you wouldn't be a virgin. Get as many opportunities as you can to work on improving. Go to parties and hit on girls as well as trying to talk and meet girls from tinder. If you want to have sex just to get it but not as a sign of your progress of how much you have worked on yourself then get a prostitute.
/r/seduction09/10/15 01:54 AM
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The way inner game works is that it is a cycle. It goes Thoughts --> Beliefs --> Emotions --> Actions --> Thoughts Thoughts create the beliefs which create the emotions that you feel which get you to do the actions which reinforce the thoughts and so on. The best thing about this cycle is that you can start at any point. A lot of guys start at just doing the action and the thoughts naturally come with. And others start at the thoughts and the actions come nationally. This goes with exactly with …
/r/seduction08/10/15 11:16 PM
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Read this and watch this That is cajun. He is bit shorter than average but his view on hight is spot on. Being short is actually a huge plus if you learn to make it a non-issue. I'm about average height but there are a lot of girls taller than me and when ever i hit on them I get the vibe of them thinking "Fuck, this guy has balls". It's actually interesting, shorter guys can get away with a lot more then taller guys. Taller guys when they try to escalate the girl can think "red flag, this guy i…
/r/seduction08/10/15 06:28 AM
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Approach more Scandinavians. The only way you will get better at talking to scandinavians is talking to more scandianavians. There is no other solution.
/r/seduction08/10/15 06:16 AM
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So what have you done? Did you just read the books and expect success while sitting at home?
/r/seduction08/10/15 06:09 AM
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He created the science of Attraction, so even though he is an emotional wreck, we need to respect Erik and his work, and just accept them as the truth That is terrible thinking. I mean just awful. In the area of seduction, you should never accept something someone says as truth. You should read it, understand it then test it and see if what is said to be true. As an example I have actually found that I have more success going direct because it shows that I am masculine because I unapologetic go …
/r/seduction08/10/15 06:08 AM
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If you want to get the part of your life sorted you are going to have to move. A mass number of girls are never going to come to you just so you can practice. You have to go to where they are. To do that, that may involve quitting your job, moving away from you family, ect. But it's a sacrifice that you will have to take if you want to practice
/r/seduction07/10/15 04:50 AM
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As op said. You get whatever you want to get out of it. I used to do this all the time (actually still do it sometimes to warm up) as a way to get over my AA by exposing myself to saying things that I felt uncomfortable saying.
/r/seduction07/10/15 04:46 AM
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shrug "Fair enough. Have a good one"
/r/seduction06/10/15 04:32 AM
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A lot of it is through deals with brands in the same way brands pay to be put in movies.
/r/seduction04/10/15 05:11 AM
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It's more to do with the fact that the only barrier to posting or voting on seddit is to have an internet connection. I did a bootcamp with LS so i'm a member of their private forum in which to be a member everyone has to have done a bootcamp. So everyone in there posting has all shown a commitment and atleast has a very basic understanding of the theory. It is that barrier that prevents the mass non-community from posting/voting/commenting which allows for there to be more constructive debate a…
/r/seduction01/10/15 06:52 AM
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It's a public forum with no real control. A web forum is only as good as its users which for a public one can be anyone as the bar for entry is extremely low. It is always going to be full of guys who don't want to actively help others or even know how to actively help. As an example, if you are a member of any private forum compare it to a public form of the same subject. The posts and commentators of the public are no where near the level of the private forum because the private forum has a ba…
/r/seduction30/09/15 07:18 AM
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Attraction, perceived value. Now your just splitting hairs. They are the same thing. Everything, social status, looks, behaviour, race, everything falls under your attraction/perceived value. How important each one is depends on the girl. If a girl is all about the looks then then she will go crazy for guys with 6% body fat. If a girl loves money she will go crazy for any prince/millionaire. It depends on the girl. The thing is we can only control a group of these things so that is why people fo…
/r/seduction28/09/15 09:39 PM
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It's all about perceived value. The value that you are perceived to have by the women in question. The thing is that perceived value is based on a number or different thing depending on the woman. Which is why you don't see many girls going after masculine charming 60 year olds but you do see them go after masculine charming 30 year olds because age in comparison to the woman's one of the elements of your value. Things like looks do increase your value (which is why going to the gym and getting …
/r/seduction28/09/15 05:25 AM
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Wealth can easily provide opportunities to meet and try to seduce women. However simply flaunting your wealth won't get you far besides getting the girls to come to the party. Try this simple experiment. Tell 10 girls that you have a trust fund and see how attracted they are. Then tell 10 different girls that you just sold your business that you have been working on for years with your best friends and you are out tonight celebrating, and see how attracted they are. Which story are the girls mor…
/r/seduction24/09/15 03:52 AM
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Avoid the whole issue by not taking a girl to places where you would not be willing to pay for her (i'm assuming because you wouldn't be able to afford the places you go if you have to cover two people). Instead go to events or places where you can. For example, if i'm taking a girl somewhere i take her to a bar or we grab a coffee or go to the food truck style markets where if i pay for both of us it's not over $20. These style of places are also really good because you can say "hey ill cover t…
/r/seduction24/09/15 03:45 AM
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Instagram, Facebook, tinder, pretty much all social media is super shallow. Unless you have an awesome lifestyle (think jets, Vegas, lots of money, ect), have your fitness in check, ect. Your not really going to get anywhere in terms of getting girls to hit you up. You are better off meeting girls in real life and making sure that your Facebook and Instagram isn't full of bullshit (stupid memes, rants about random crap,ect) but instead full of fun interesting things (photos of you out with frien…
/r/seduction22/09/15 09:52 PM
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Ok this is going to sound weird but hear me out. The whole alpha beta thing is often misunderstood. Alpha = teasing, having fun, ect. Beta = comfort, relating, ect. You need both to be good with women. Not just one. Too much alpha you turn into a clown who can't take her seriously. Too much beta and you become a friend. You need to be calibrated so you know when to use both. Another thing, what you want to be doing is encouraging good behaviour and punishing bad behaviour. If she tells you about…
/r/seduction21/09/15 08:47 AM
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Check out braddock's phone and text game ebook. It's really good. Has a lot of good stuff. However one thing you have to remember is a lot of text game is built around having a good game when you initially get the number. The better the interaction the better then chance that she will reply.
/r/seduction21/09/15 03:48 AM
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"Yep. Practiced that line in the mirror for two hours before I came out tonight. Mum said that it was perfect and I'd definitely lose my virginity tonight"
/r/seduction21/09/15 03:43 AM
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After she teases you about sometime "Come here" *hug her and playfully say "i fucking hate you". That's a physical pull but a verbal push. Also read this http://www.theattractionforums.com/braddock/111917-braddock-how-flirt-women-art-push-pull.html
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:16 AM
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/u/daygamecoach touched on it but not quite. With this particular question I disagree that the gender matters because whether something is creepy or whether it is cute depends on how the other person reacts to it, which is a reaction to how they feel about you. For example: let's take the scenario of a male doing the Hollywood boom box over head trope. If you like the guy your reaction would be something like "oh that's so cute". However if you don't like the guy your reaction would be to call t…
/r/seduction18/09/15 03:00 AM
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The female brain
/r/seduction17/09/15 07:24 AM
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Magic bullets is a good one that gives an overarching view of the seduction process. Just don't get caught in the trap of just reading.
/r/seduction16/09/15 08:10 AM
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Look up opinion openers. It's just a simple opinion type question to get you used to talking to girls. Just don't expect to be suddenly be getting laid from them but see them as a way to start talking to girls. Once your comfortable with doing that, then come back and look for the next step.
/r/seduction16/09/15 08:08 AM
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This all depends on the quantity and the quality of practice that you put in. By quantity i mean that you regular go out and open as many people as you can. By quality I mean that you go out with specific goals to work on specific skills (whether it be teasing, going sexual, touch, ect) every time you go out and approach and actually work on the skills. It's not good to put a time frame on it and compare your progress to others because it will make you feel like crap. Instead focus on your own i…
/r/seduction16/09/15 05:50 AM
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This is pretty spot on. Essentially think of it this way. How a girl rates you goes up and down during an interaction based on what you do/ect. Your looks just set the number that you start the interaction at. So wouldn't you rather be fit and look nice and start an interaction at a 5 compared to not looking good and starting the interaction at a 2 or lower. That's not including the fact that being fit and healthy in general is a good thing for anyone to be.
/r/seduction16/09/15 05:38 AM
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Check out braddock's phone and text game. It is pretty awesome. Mind you you need to remember that you can't recover from bad game with good text game. Text game is only supplementary to actual game http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/25813696/The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Phone-and-Text-Game
/r/seduction15/09/15 02:47 AM
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Go here and just search social circle https://torrentz.eu/
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:56 AM
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I wouldn't think of it as a sure thing but a girl won't touch you repeatedly if she thought you were gross. Strike up a conversation and see how it goes.
/r/seduction14/09/15 09:35 AM
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This is pretty much where they should be winging you. Helping you out by telling good stories about you to her. Or you could ask them to be out of the house for a few hours so you can be alone with her. Seal the deal before she even gets to meet them.
/r/seduction14/09/15 09:32 AM
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College game is social circle game. There is no way around it. College is the next level after high school. It's all about what group your a part of and their connections. Have a look at love systems social circle mastery (you can find it on most "illegal" sites). It explains the whole social circle stuff really well.
/r/seduction14/09/15 09:19 AM
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Typically go one level higher than the average for the venue
/r/seduction03/09/15 11:39 PM
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Flirting is push pull. This article describes it http://www.theattractionforums.com/braddock/111917-braddock-how-flirt-women-art-push-pull.html
/r/seduction03/09/15 06:17 AM
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Read the book blink by Malcom gladwell. It goes into our split second judgements of people. This is very much a fake it till you make it thing. When you are "faking it" your body knows that it is faking it so for a while it will feel incongruent and your body will put off vibes that show that. However over time your mind gets tricked. It essentially thinks "oh my body is acting confident so I must be confident" it is then when your body and mind are aligned that your body language will no longer…
/r/seduction02/09/15 03:12 AM
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There is no type. All girls will go home with you if they feel that it is right. The first mindset to have is that girls are sexual beings and there is nothing wrong with that. As soon as a girl thinks you are judging them aka thinking that they are sluts or whores their vagina will dry up faster then you can say "I was only joking".
/r/seduction01/09/15 11:42 AM
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Ignore what this guy said. Also forget the words extrovert and introvert. Both words are used to put people into boxes to force a person not to change because "that is not who they are". Instead focus on the skills of game. Focus on being able to open, being able to tease, being able to talk sexually with women, ect. If you focus on that then your style of game will develop naturally because a guy who has those skill is who you will become.
/r/seduction01/09/15 08:37 AM
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Ok everyone is saying don't do it but as a guy who has done a bootcamp (multiple ones in fact) I'll tell you the other point of view. I say that going on a bootcamp is very beneficial. The reason that it is beneficial is because you are getting guys who have gone through it all before and will be able to pre-empt issues that you have or will have in the future. They have also read a lot of the books and such and will be able to use that to essentially tell you the stuff you will need. The best e…
/r/seduction01/09/15 07:35 AM
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While these are all excellent starting points, if you want to continue a conversation trigger words is key.
/r/seduction01/09/15 07:09 AM
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Remember that no girl is worth losing your job over. Get numbers and such and make your moves outside of work. There was a club in my city and the bouncers were caught fucking girls in the bathrooms and the whole security company got canned and the bar lost a lot of money. I'm pretty sure those guys won't get hired by anyone. Also Because you are the doorman to their social status then they will gravitate to you. So I think you just need to worry about your seduction skills when you see them out…
/r/seduction29/08/15 03:56 AM
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Exposure to those situations where you overcome your fear is the only thing that will make you more confident. How you get that exposure is up to you whether you jump head first and open people directly and trying to start conversations. Or you baby step it and do the smallest thing, eg ask for the time from a random, and slowly build it up as you get more comfortable. Exposure causes neural pathways to get built and the more you do it the stronger they get so it gets easier. It never gets that …
/r/seduction28/08/15 08:02 AM
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This is pretty much on point. If she isn't going to hang around if you don't buy her a drink then don't. Also buying a girl a drink is an awesome logistical move. It's an easy way to get her away from her friends for a bit. Also this little logistical move also is a good test to see how much compliance you have with the girl.
/r/seduction28/08/15 02:32 AM
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Simple, if it gets too packed just move the party to a near by bar. Let the bar deal with the number of people if it is too large. But still i doubt the number of people who said that they were attending will show up. People a lot of the time just say attending then they completely forget about it. A rule of thumb that i have that is pretty accurate is, take the number of people who say they are going to attend and 1/3 of that is the number of people who will actually attend.
/r/seduction23/08/15 07:10 AM
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You can say that about anyone that posts here, hence the major problem of a public forum
/r/seduction23/08/15 12:59 AM
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Just run game like you would anywhere else. The only difference I found with Vegas and everywhere else is that in Vegas people actually tend to be easier to open because they are all in the mindset of being there to have fun. So my best advise is to just have fun. It's a cliche I know but it's one of the best things for you to do. Sure open girls and hit on them but make your number one goal to be have fun. As for the height. I wouldn't care if I was you. A guy's height to a girl is equivalent t…
/r/seduction22/08/15 06:52 AM
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Trigger words by braddock is all you need to learn. It's a concept, not lines. Listen to this http://www.lovesystems.com/podcast/ep014-trigger-words-legendary-instructor-braddock-joins-the-show-to-talk-about-his-methodology-to-being-an-entertaining-and-humorous-conversationalist Also here is an article on his blog about it which is more focused on banter/teasing http://www.braddocksblog.com/how-to-talk-to-girls-basics-of-teasing/ It's easier to get a bunch of lines and use them but its better, a…
/r/seduction11/08/15 05:37 AM
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You don't need to see a psychologist. You just don't know any better. Ok firstly, you are in high school. Stop reading direct pua stuff. At this age it will mess you up, especially /r/seduction as it is just a hive mind of the blind leading the blind (some guys on here know what they are talking about but a lot are just repeating stuff they read/heard and because everything is up/downvoted on, who is to say that the stuff on the front page is the best stuff to read). In this part of your life yo…
/r/seduction31/07/15 07:22 AM
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The best conversations in the world are the most boring things in the world. The stuff that makes it interesting is the subtext and the feeling behind the words. For example, check out this scene in up in the air. http://youtu.be/EePcWVFtRCU .They are talking about rewards from different things but you notice after the first minute the subtext changes. There is sexual tension. This is the difference between James Bond and us, besides the fact that he is a character from a movie.
/r/seduction11/07/15 09:36 AM
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Ok firstly, what have you been talking about on tinder? Use that as a jumping off point. Secondly, a conversation is essentially just someone says something about a topic (lets use the example of studying to be a nurse) then the other responds either by teasing it (didn't picture you as the type of girl who likes to stab kids with needles) or digging deeper (so why did you want to become a nurse) or relating to the topic (oh really my sister/aunt/mother/friend's/ect is a nurse). So what you just…
/r/seduction11/07/15 08:22 AM
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Don't stress. Movies are only bad if it's the only thing you are doing. As others have said, do stuff before and after. I'v had a bunch of success from doing a lot of mini things on a date, eg coffee then for a walk then grabbed something to eat, ect. It breaks up the date and you would be surprised how much a change in venue works. So there is nothing wrong with watching a movie. Also think of it this way, if she is a huge movie nerd like you said, would she of invited you along to something sh…
/r/seduction10/07/15 06:35 AM
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She was offended because she thought "I was just having fun with the guy but if he is going to get upset by that then screw it". Really what you should of done is one up the tease/neg/whatever you want to call it. For example: Girl: "Wow you are kind of scrawny," You: "Yea i know. my waist is that skinny that you only need a hand to go around it" You're having fun with it and showing that you can take it when she teases/negs/ect you. That shows confidence to a girl. Also 99% of women don't know …
/r/seduction09/07/15 03:57 AM
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It depends what you practice. If you practice lines and such you will create a false identity because the lines are not you. However if you practice skills, such as teasing, being playful, storytelling, ect, then you are developing positive habits.
/r/seduction22/06/15 05:29 AM
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That's up to you. What are you looking for? Do you want a girl just for a fuck of do you want a girl to have a relationship and have a family with. The purpose of women is all depending on what you want.
/r/seduction18/06/15 01:50 AM
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The overall process of all this is to pick up habits that are attractive. It's not about pretending aka "gaming" the girl till she likes you. These habits are things like teasing a girl, being playful but also being able to talk to her in a comfortable way, ect. Essentially you are training yourself to have habits on every spectrum of an interaction and knowing the time to be hitting each one. So essentially the person she meets at the bar or on the street is you. Not some false identity you hav…
/r/seduction18/06/15 01:41 AM
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I go direct most of the time. The other times is just situational. Something happens I comment on it and we start a conversation out of that. Direct is better. I mean what is your reason for talking to her. Indirect is whishy washy and if the girl likes you she would hate it. She would rather you be direct and say "I like you". Atleast then she knows where you stand, eg friend or someone trying to date her. Plus a lot of the time it gets rid of the bullshit by putting a y in the road by making h…
/r/seduction15/06/15 11:57 PM
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I do both. I day game most days inbetween work then i go out most fridays and saturdays. For sure my game has improved. But the thing is looking at your successes in game as how many girls you turned on that week ect is a very bad way to process your goals as it gives all the power to the person who you can not control. It's better to look at what your doing and are you doing it eg kino, opening, ect. You feel a lot better internally also because you can say to yourself "sure i'm going home alon…
/r/seduction15/06/15 07:20 PM
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Well the main thing that I noticed is I'v generally become more social and i find it's easier to convince myself to go and open. Just yesterday I was out day gaming and I had just gotten to the area that I was going to, I saw a really cute girl and in my head I went "err I want to grab a coffee first" but I said to myself "no, just go. She may not be there when you get back" so I went and opened. Set actually went really well and luckily I did do it then because a friend of her's turned up so it…
/r/seduction15/06/15 04:48 AM
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Yep. 1 a day is the best thing that you can do. You are strengthening the neural pathways every day to enforce the actions. Over time the neural pathways that were stopping you get weaker. While the feeling is still there the stronger pathway is able to over power the weaker one and you are able to do it anyway. I'v hit about 300 days in a row but the app that allowed me to count the number died so i lost count but yea one and day works wonders.
/r/seduction15/06/15 12:19 AM
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Money isn't attractive. It's the passion behind it that is. Saying "hey i have 30 million dollars" isn't going to get you far by itself. Maybe a raised eyebrow and a request from her for you to buy her a drink but that's it. However saying "I am a software engineer which i love because not only is it a job in that i am constantly challenged it. But it also allows me the freedom to work on my other passionate projects. Travel/Music/creating a business/ect". It's then that the girl says to herself…
/r/seduction05/06/15 06:12 AM
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This is just a belief thing. Look into yourself and ask why you didn't approach. Was it because there was people around and they may think that you're weird for doing so? or maybe you were afraid that she would reject you? Or maybe you were wearing the colour blue and you thought that she didn't like guys who liked wearing blue. Whatever it is work it out then follow these steps to destroy that belief. Highlight the belief that you have, eg women don't like me because of <x> or I didn't approach…
/r/seduction03/06/15 07:10 AM
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Here are some simple steps to overcome a negative belief/mindset. Highlight the belief that you have, eg women don't like me because of <x> Understand the damage of the belief AKA What is it costing me in my life? Give it a silly voice - say the belief to yourself in a voice as if it is your little sister/nephew/someone whose opinion you think "oh isn't that cute" to take away it's power Re frame the belief - eg Every woman likes different things. Some do like short 25 year old guys. I just have…
/r/seduction03/06/15 05:33 AM
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Yea he is definitely one of the masters of game. Got to sit in on his trigger words during the last super-conference. Crazy shit. So glad I got to do it seeing as it looks like he is on his way to retiring if he hasn't already.
/r/seduction03/06/15 05:17 AM
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This is spot on. To look at it another way, if you want to get bill gates rich you don't ask advice from your buddy who owns a business but he is only pulling enough to get by.
/r/seduction03/06/15 02:09 AM
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Girl: "no" Me: shrugs "Fair enough. Hey so <another topic>..." Essentially i treat it as nothing has changed and I continue talking. Usually i think i talk to her enough about other stuff that she forgets that I asked her out. Though if she does act weird about it, treat that as a non issue. Don't even talk about it to her or anyone, then after a while (can range from a week to a few months) start talking to her again like nothing has changed.
/r/seduction28/05/15 04:22 AM
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When you say wicked, do you mean that you come across as an arsehole or too mean. Like the girls get offended or pissed off and leave? Instead of trying to be a dick I'd try and learn how to tease better. This is an excellent article http://www.braddocksblog.com/how-to-talk-to-girls-basics-of-teasing/ Using the method mentioned in the article, for example, I tease French girls by saying that they drink bottles of wine everyday or saying that it must be nice to get away from Paris where it's law …
/r/seduction26/05/15 11:20 PM
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Trigger words - http://www.braddocksblog.com/how-to-talk-to-girls-basics-of-teasing/
/r/seduction25/05/15 09:34 AM
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Go for some singing lessons. They will work on your voice and correct your breathing because it is what is required to be able to sing properly
/r/seduction25/05/15 09:31 AM
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Another option is that you could intern with a n instructor. Put in a bit of work for them on the side and they will help you out over time. I know love systems does a lot of that and a lot of the guys who are going through the ranks now are guys who originally did intern work with instructors. Just another option
/r/seduction24/05/15 09:40 AM
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This is the perfect opportunity to learn playing better, in whatever the context. Don't treat them like a coach/mentor (because 9/10 they won't know what they are doing correctly that makes them better unless that's what they do). Instead watch them from a distance and watch them and analyse them. Also being around them will boost your game. Like the quote says "Show me your friends and I will show you your future". This is how 9/10 of the most successful people these days became that way. They …
/r/seduction23/05/15 11:33 PM
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$70 shipping to my country through amazon. Kindle/itunes/digital is just so much easier.
/r/seduction22/05/15 05:15 AM
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Are superflirt and superdate as pdfs somewhere because according to amazon they are both super old books aka hard to obtain.
/r/seduction22/05/15 03:19 AM
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These are all books that I have read which have been helpful If you like inner game type stuff, books about how the mind/brain work are really good. Some of my recommendations are: Psycho-Cybernetics Evolve Your Brain Inner Game of Tennis The Willpower Instinct The Psychology of Achievement For female psychology The Female Brain Male Masculinty King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine Iron John: A Book about Men The Way of the Superior Man Game specifi…
/r/seduction22/05/15 02:07 AM
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http://cajunsspice.blogspot.com.au/2008/06/so-you-like-tall-women.html - don't know who cajun is, watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsoproa1qo
/r/seduction16/05/15 10:06 AM
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Who ever you look at, make sure to look at reviews from multiple different sites. Also that they have a solid refund policy if you feel that you didn't get what you paid for. Also getting a coach is a smart idea because they can teach you to avoid the pitfalls that they experienced however at the end of the day, the amount that you get out of it directly correlates with how much time and effort you put into it. No coach can get you to the point of picking up playboy models if you sit on the couc…
/r/seduction06/05/15 01:47 AM
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This is very true. Having female friends shows social proof, that girls like to hang with you even if it isn't for a romantic/sexual reason. Plus personally sometimes I prefer talking to girls over guys anyway because guy talk is a lot of the time "to the point" and very dull, whereas talking to girls you have to be fun and playful. Talking to female friends in that way allows you to practice it for when you need to turn it on for a girl you are trying to seduce.
/r/seduction06/05/15 01:36 AM
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A lot of /r/seduction have this belief that woman have no knowledge on how to seduce them because they only experience it from their side. Personally I do agree with the fact that asking a girl how to seduce her can be taken with a grain of salt, unless you read between the lines of what she says. Tenmagent explains it pretty well in this article of his http://www.tenmagnet.com/why-women-give-bad-dating-advice/
/r/seduction05/05/15 01:43 AM
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I'm curious as to why the woman choosing even comes up. You're the man so you lead. You're taking her out on the date/meetup so you take her to a place that you want to take her. Sure maybe logistically a place may not work out but at the end of the day it's you that has to make the decision on where to go.
/r/seduction24/04/15 05:24 AM
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The book is out on the internet and the concepts in it are gold. Here is a snippet of it to check it out http://www.scribd.com/doc/25813696/The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Phone-and-Text-Game#scribd
/r/seduction18/04/15 03:50 AM
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Women aren't usually the ones to make the effort with calling/texting someone they just met unless their options are limited. For example, the only times i'v had girls message me when i'v just met them (without me messaging them first) has been girls from other countries. Girls who are over here to practice their english but they don't put themselves out there to try and meet people to practice with so when I come along they want to keep me round for that reason. Personally I'd say ask for her n…
/r/seduction17/04/15 07:24 AM
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Yes. Plenty of hope. You said it yourself. You got girls, but they dumped you because of your insecurities. So that is proof that the issue is your mindset not your weight. Some stuff to do to over come these insecurities is every time you find yourself thinking that girls don't like you because of your weight, think "No that isn't true. Girls have liked me". Break the thought pattern.
/r/seduction15/04/15 07:08 AM
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My typical response would be something along the lines of, in a non-serious meh sort of tone, "yea I'd do him" or "yea I'd take him home but I probably wouldn't call him the next day" My responses show that I'm not fussed about girls checking out other guys because it's a normal thing. Plus I'm not worried because checking out does not equal taking action. It also shows that I'm non-judgemental about casual sex too.
/r/seduction13/04/15 11:21 PM
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Or maybe the friend just wanted to go home and she didn't feel safe walking home alone and wanted her friend to make sure she got home safely. That's what I would of assumed and when it happened, suggested to come with. It would create a fork in the road of the interaction to make her choose if she wanted to still hang out with OP. If she didn't, well get a number or move on and find a new girl to talk to. If she did, walk the friend home and then they could continue hanging out. Also OP should …
/r/seduction13/04/15 05:47 AM
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Excellent book. I feel that it is a book that everybody should read.
/r/seduction10/04/15 10:02 AM
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Start by having a life, having stuff to do. Either through hobbies, events, ect. Then once you have a bunch of stuff that you are doing start inviting people. Don't expect many people to come off the bat but just invite them. Eventually one or two will show up and if they enjoy it they will feel like either doing it again or inviting you to stuff. That's what's happened to me. I do impro and have invited a bunch of friends to come along and just watch. After a year I finally had a few friends co…
/r/seduction09/04/15 03:43 AM
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I did a bootcamp with him and we asked him about it. He said towards the end of the night felicia was back at uni campus but wanted him to come over but he said it was too far from where he was and he was flying out the next morning. A lot of it is timing and how interested the girl is. They were clearly very into him so with that as a base to jump off from, a few good back and forth texts would easily lead to something.
/r/seduction08/04/15 03:04 AM
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He is big on body language. This talk he goes into the main points of his game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSJ2sJKw3j4
/r/seduction07/04/15 09:04 PM
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Or d) she doesn't trust herself around you to not sleep with you. Your reply isn't a good one. A better reply would of been something that implied that she wants to sleep with you. A friend of mine does a point system when talking to girls, eg "you like that band? Ok you lost 2 points" ect. Something he uses is "You're only at 5 points, you don't deserve and excitement"
/r/seduction07/04/15 05:24 AM
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I'm currently going through this also. Have an awesome life but just learning how to get girls attracted. Game is essentially sales. From what you have said, you have the product you just need to learn how to sell it. To do this you need to learn a few skills. One is how to tell your stories in attractive ways, for example come from a more emotional point of view, eg if telling a story about producing music, talk about how much you love it and how it makes you feel instead of talking about the a…
/r/seduction07/04/15 01:05 AM
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Texting just logistics only works if she is a green light. If she is yellow or a very close to red then she isn't going to respond to logistical texts.
/r/seduction06/04/15 05:44 AM
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If your thinking too hard you aren't doing it right. Call back is as simple as calling her a brat or referring to her hobbit feet or asking how many orphanages she has closed down this week. It doesn't have to be some crazy joke. Also too much teasing makes you an arsehole not a clown. So if your a clown your not doing the right type of humor
/r/seduction06/04/15 05:33 AM
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Yes but callback has more connection then just "hey I heard a funny joke"
/r/seduction06/04/15 02:58 AM
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Don't just text logistics because she will be operating from a logical mind and she will forget why she likes you, so always include call back humor/teasing to remind her of the feelings that she originally felt so she will want to meetup no matter her schedule.
/r/seduction05/04/15 10:19 PM
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I have a feeling that it is the conversations that you are having during the dates and they are putting you into a particular frame in the girls mind. A lot of the guys that I know that get sex on first dates a lot, they keep the conversation very light and playful and stay away from deep topics. Very similar stuff to stuff you would say on a night out at a club and you were aiming for a snl. For example she asks about your family they reply with "I was raised by wolfs"/"My mom is a stripper". B…
/r/seduction03/04/15 08:40 AM
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How badly are you allergic to alcohol? Because if it is manageable you can still go out sober. There is a guy that I know of who is pro of snl's and he has never had a drink of alcohol in his life.
/r/seduction02/04/15 06:53 AM
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Why is talking to someone that you haven't seen in 3 years desperate. Everyone tries to reconnect with old friends/gfs all the time. The only time that it would seem weird you trying to reconnect is if you did something hugely bad.
/r/seduction02/04/15 06:50 AM
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A better way to think of alpha and beta is that alpha actions = attraction and beta actions = comfort. Women want both attraction (alpha) and comfort (beta). They want different mixtures of these for different purposes. Short term hook up; more attraction (alpha, arousal, good genes, push) and less comfort (beta, security, good provider, pull). Long term marriage; more comfort, less attraction. Women rarely want 100% attraction or 100% comfort for any purpose, they want more or less of these at …
/r/seduction01/04/15 06:58 AM
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Go outside pickup books to and look into other things like motivation, self belief, best way to learn, ect. Some suggestions are phycho-cybernetics, mastery, the female brain, the willpower instinct, inner game of tennis.
/r/seduction28/03/15 03:34 PM
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Height, like looks in general, will help you at the start of an interaction but if your game is weak then you will lose her pretty quickly. I was in vegas and was chatting to this girl and after 10mins i was making out with her. Then about 10 mins later we were in another part of the bar standing and she was taller then me (even without the heals) and she said "aww damn your shorter than me" but she was still making out with me. If height mattered at that point it would of overridden her circuit…
/r/seduction26/03/15 04:30 AM
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Not always true. This is quoted from an article from tenmagent's blog Treat all advice from your female friends with a grain of salt. When a woman is giving you advice from the female perspective, when she’s telling you how a woman reads or experiences a particular situation, you can often rely on that information. But when her advice starts getting “in the kitchen”, you need to recognize that she probably knows less about what she’s talking about than you do. Tenmagent's concept is that women g…
/r/seduction26/03/15 04:23 AM
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If your near any easy cook meal/frozen meals an easy one is grabbing one and saying in a non-serious, joking way "this is why i need a girlfriend". If she responds continue the conversation.
/r/seduction25/03/15 03:27 AM
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This mindset you have is not about getting better, it is about accepting yourself at the level that you are at and accepting that you don't have to do any more to improve yourself. This is a very bad mindset. You need goals to know where you are going. You need to count your actions to show yourself that you are still going in the direction that you want. Seduction is a skill because the elements of it, such as body language/how you speak/ect, are all skills. Saying seduction is an art is the sa…
/r/seduction24/03/15 04:59 AM
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Look at Cajun (look up Cajun, keys to the vip), he is your height. This is his view on it http://www.cajunsblog.com/posts/so-you-like-tall-women/ Essentially he treats height as a non issue. If you don't treat it as an issue then the girl doesn't even notice, even if she is the one to bring it up.
/r/seduction24/03/15 01:20 AM
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Talking to two girls is possible. You just have to include both in the conversation at the start so one doesn't pull the other away. It gets harder towards the end when you want to isolate with one of the girls which is when a wing is really helpful, or hurtful depending on how the wing goes (had once or twice where something happened and the other girl grabbed my girl and left)
/r/seduction24/03/15 01:10 AM
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I would recommend love-systems. I have done workshops with them and the instructors are very intelligent and experienced, just look at the reviews on the attraction forums. I know if you call them you can request a 1-on-1 with them if that's more what you are after. They are a bit pricey but the fact that you get access to their private lounge where the instructors have to post and money back guarantee for everything they sell. http://www.lovesystems.com/training-programs/day-game-workshop
/r/seduction23/03/15 10:59 PM
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My country doesn't have the bottle service stuff here so my experience with it is limited however when I was in Vegas my friends had tables and how they were using them to was that they would use the table as a home base. Go out and talk to girls and bring them back to the table them once you have girls there it will be easier to attract more girls.
/r/seduction23/03/15 10:07 AM
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If she wants something to wear (but assuming not because we will both be falling asleep after sex and we will be sleeping in the nude) I'd just give her shorts and an old t-shirt of mine to wear.
/r/seduction23/03/15 01:48 AM
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I'm just going to start off and say remember that a lot of guys these days are bad at picking up signals so seeing as you said you can't go the straight-to-the-point route it will happen that you could be doing this and some guys would still miss it (I know it's a very high chance that I have missed a few of these). Anyway I found this a while back of examples of girls flirting so my advise is when in conversation do a bunch of these. If he still isn't getting the hint just assume what ever he i…
/r/seduction23/03/15 01:11 AM
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A better way to look at it is, stop looking for green and yellow lights when you should be only watching for red. As long as your not getting any red then your fine to proceed.
/r/seduction23/03/15 12:51 AM
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"My cousin/mate/sister/mum/dad/brother/sister/aunt/uncle was crashing with me a while ago and they left them here". Also I think your going over the top with extra pajamas, ect. Just have stuff that you use like an extra toothbrush, ect. No woman would expect you to have stuff like tampons just in case a woman that you just met slept over.
/r/seduction23/03/15 12:49 AM
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At the end of the day the only numbers that matter are the number of sets that you opened. Open enough and you'll get results. Your only looking for one girl to take home. Who gives a shit if it takes talking to 20 girls in one night to find the one.
/r/seduction22/03/15 05:42 PM
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Hahaha. Nice. I like to call girls racist. I was talking to two German girl who didn't like beer and didn't like that there was so many Germans here so I called them racist towards Germans.
/r/seduction22/03/15 04:03 AM
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Dude, Iv had girls tell me "don't tell girls that, it's unattractive". Well no fucking shit. Of course it isn't. It isn't meant to be. It's for me to have fun and it's that that is attractive.
/r/seduction22/03/15 03:59 AM
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Exactly. My friends all say to each other before in the club, what are we tonight. They have done stuff like say they were a Christian band called immaculate conception or that they were all back hair models. They have told girls that they are virgins and that their mum is outside giving him lines through an ear piece. They honestly don't give a fuck. They just have fun that is their aim and it is what attracts girls to them. These people are reading the lines without the inflection ect and putt…
/r/seduction22/03/15 03:51 AM
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Ha. Ok this statement is for self amusement. If I have the strong frame of "this is funny, I'm having fun" then she will naturally fall into my frame. Iv said things that are more, well according to you they would be, cringe worthy but guess what happened. The girls laughed. One of my lines when they ask what I do is that "I am a dildo model. My model is only this big holds up pinky. It's called the intro to anal model". At the end of the day The fact that I'm having fun is the most important th…
/r/seduction22/03/15 02:28 AM
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What do you think the purpose of what I said, is?
/r/seduction22/03/15 02:05 AM
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Why? Has /r/seduction never heard of saying stuff for your own self amusement?
/r/seduction22/03/15 02:04 AM
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You can either do two things. Screen early "who are you here with" ect so you can eject if she has issues like friends staying over ect. Or you can get her number and plan a day 2
/r/seduction21/03/15 11:32 AM
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Say thanks then heighten it Her: your so smart Me: thanks. I can also levitate things with my mind. Her: really Me: yea see I'll levitate you. pretends to concentrate. Huh it isn't working. Wait what type of underwear do you have on Her: umm, normal stuff Me: see that's why. You have to be wearing none for it to work. We will have to fix that.
/r/seduction21/03/15 11:28 AM
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Personally I don't read anything before I go out. I set myself some goals (eg open 10/try particular transitions/ect). Then I listen to some pump up music, watch some comedy, tell myself my affirmations, do anything to get me into state. I find that reading puts me into a top logical state. I need to be out of my logical mind and just let myself just go into auto pilot and let my mind put it all together (something I got from the inner game of tennis)
/r/seduction21/03/15 05:06 AM
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Get in a good state by listening to music, watching comedy videos and doing stupid things (eg dancing) that are self amusing. That is all before I get to the bar. Get there early to warm up. Then once you get there start small. Do general chit chat to bar tenders. Talk to bouncers ect. If there are people there make friends. Make them your home base. Then as more people start arriving start approaching more direct. After about an hour of talking you will be warm so it should be like any other ni…
/r/seduction21/03/15 03:44 AM
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If you want something a bit more serious you have to actually be someone. Basically think of it as "what world am I bringing a girl into and is it a world that they want to be part of". If that is what you present to her then you will get girls wanting to hang around. So do you have hobbies that you are passionate about. Do you have purpose in your life, ect. The best people that I know in game, they attract girls through this and that is why all the girls that he has one night stands with actua…
/r/seduction21/03/15 03:38 AM
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Like I said it's all your ethics that matter because it is you that will deal with it all. At this point you're just convincing yourself so it doesn't really matter what we say.
/r/seduction21/03/15 03:09 AM
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However, control the controllable. If two people have the strongest inner game in the world, one is all dressed up, is fit, and takes care of himself and the other is an absolute slob. While both can get the girl who do you think will have an easier time getting the girl.
/r/seduction21/03/15 03:04 AM
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At the end of the day it's all up to your own ethics. The best way to decide if you think that this is ok is to look at it as if she is doing it to you (aka your the one she is cheating on). The reason to look at it this way is because whatever the circumstances you are reinforcing that this is standard behaviour for all girls, whether it is true or not, it will always be in the back of your mind.
/r/seduction21/03/15 02:57 AM
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Rejection happens man. It is not possible to get to a point where you will never get rejected. This is a huge thing that a lot of guys don't get. Learning game is not about getting every girl in the world to like you. It is to be able to have the skills so girls that can like you, will like you. At the end of the day, who cares about the 10-15% of girls in the world who will never like you no matter what when you have the other 85% that can like you and will like you if you present yourself in a…
/r/seduction19/03/15 01:56 AM
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While in campus, treat it like social circle game. Become the social guy round campus then it won't be seen as weird that you are always talking to girls
/r/seduction18/03/15 01:07 AM
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Direct and situational. Direct show intent. Cuts the bullshit. It is also not a big jump from "your really cute" to "hi my name is secondpua". I also do situational because sometimes stuff happens and it's better to respond to that then just randomly go direct. Indirect just feels too forced to me.
/r/seduction16/03/15 04:59 AM
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I generally txt them the day I meet them with they text "Hey I just met this cute <little detail, eg law student> who <callback humor from the interaction eg bragged that she knew all law off by heart>. I want to flirt with her. What should I say?" This works pretty well. Iv even texted a girl this while talking to her and we have had two conversations going. One verbal and one over text.
/r/seduction15/03/15 12:02 PM
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If that was the case then what most likley happened op not doing enough to show that he wasn't a threat to the friend. I mean he didn't need to do anything big, just do a bit of friendly banter with her or include her in the jokes. If she is a true friend to her, and if op is doing everything right, then she will let op hit on her friend.
/r/seduction15/03/15 02:36 AM
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If you want to think that little of women, go for it man. I like to think of them in a positive light because most times it works out for me. In fact I just finished drinks with a girl who I just found out had a boyfriend but at the same time she was willing to set me up with her friends. I lost the chance to have sex with one girl but gained a friend who is willing to help me get laid with many other girls. I'd consider that a win as both parties benefit.
/r/seduction14/03/15 11:56 AM
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Date does not equal dating. You are actually more likely going to get a girl thinking that your in a relationship after sex then after going on a date. Unless you have verbally said "we are dating/in a relationship" then assume that each date is equivalent to just hanging out getting to know the girl and trying to sleep with her.
/r/seduction14/03/15 08:27 AM
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It's more the second than the first. But it's not that it's attention/validation, it's more that the interaction is fun. If your doing everything right they won't want you to leave even though they are committed and they don't say the boyfriend line because she knows from experience that the fun usually stops at that point. Some personal examples of mine are: I got a number from a girl the other day. Sent my first message "Hey, I just met this cute law student who bragged that she knew all law o…
/r/seduction14/03/15 08:06 AM
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Flirting is push-pull The best way to think of it is flirting is like a rollercoaster. You pull her in with a compliment then you push her away with a tease then you pull her back, ect. This article goes into it in more detail http://www.theattractionforums.com/braddock/111917-braddock-how-flirt-women-art-push-pull.html
/r/seduction11/03/15 12:48 AM
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Isn't that a limiting belief that texts should only be used to set up logistics. I mean good texting can make a girl go from a "umm I don't know" to "ok sure" to meeting up with you. Online dating is pretty much built off the idea that you can text a girl into meeting up with you.
/r/seduction10/03/15 03:50 AM
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Personally, when I hear a girl's age (this actually works both ways, older or youngers) I say, "yea, this will work". It comes off as I'v been with girls your age before so me being older/younger is completely normal. I prefer this to disqualifying ones self in this way because in this way your making age an issue which means that it isn't normal. When I disqualify, I disqualify things that at the end of the day don't matter, eg "You like foo fighters?? Ok we just aren't going to get along then …
/r/seduction09/03/15 03:30 AM
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This is something that is rarely talked about on /r/seduction. Essentially what happened is you tried to physically escalate but it didn't work so you them moved her logistically and that solved the problem. How people should be seducing a girl is try and be verbally, physically and logistically escalating during an interaction. If one fails (eg verbally) try something else like physical. I know a guy who over the last two weeks on two separate times had a girl who was cold to all his touch but …
/r/seduction07/03/15 05:07 AM
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It's a pretty big commitment for a meetup if you just met the girl. Sure when you first meet them throwing out a role play of her going skydiving with you is good "you should come skydiving with me one time. I can totally see you rocking out the skin tight jumpsuit". That is fun for them in the moment but first meetup go something a bit more relaxed, eg coffee, drinks, walk round a nice area, ect.
/r/seduction06/03/15 03:28 AM
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Small chunk it. Figure out where your anxiety is and then you will know where to start. Can't direct approach so do an indirect approach Can't do a indirect approach do a approach where you ask where something is or what the time is. Can't go up and ask a question then when you see a girl you like turn around and follow them for 20m as if you were going to approach Can't follow them for 20m then when you see them just stop and turn and watch them for a few moments. Find which one you can do then…
/r/seduction05/03/15 01:25 AM
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Sure you may not get a girl to go home with you that day but you also don't have the issue of dealing with 30 other guys who have been hitting on her during night game. You also don't have friends being an issue so you can get a girl talking without having to worry about her friends wanting to go to the bathroom or get a drink. Both day game and night game are effective ways to meet girls and they both have their positives and negatives. At the end of the day it's all just about your skill sets.
/r/seduction04/03/15 11:00 PM
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How does she act when you talk to her in class? If she is pretty willing to talk to you in class I can assume that she forgot, ect.
/r/seduction04/03/15 05:45 AM
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Yea that sort of first message generally yields low response. The best one is found was been that you get something you talked about and tease her in the first message. For example I said that one girl was a hippy so the first message that I sent her was "hey, I just met this cute hippy and I want to flirt with her. What should I say". Another example is I met a backpacker in my city and here we have a fake beach which she said she hated so I sent "hey, I just met this cute Swedish girl at the f…
/r/seduction03/03/15 07:28 PM
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What sort of message do you send?
/r/seduction03/03/15 06:05 AM
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Give this post a read http://www.theattractionforums.com/general-discussion/173274-you-must-have-had-lots-girlfriends.html#post1017111
/r/seduction02/03/15 10:44 PM
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I'm just going to focus on the part about feeling demoralised after a failed approach. What you are doing here is that you are basing weather it is a success or a failure based on what she does, aka the outcome. What you need to do is change your mindset so that your success/failure is all based on the action that you do. For example, "well she told me to fuck off but I succeeded because I approached" or "well she said she had a boyfriend but I succeeded because I asked for her number". With thi…
/r/seduction02/03/15 04:20 AM
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Honestly, my last date was about a month ago and at the current time I don't have any girls that I'm texting with the point of hooking up with. But i'v been going out every weekend and as I said before I go out every day and at minimum talk to 1 girl. That may sound like shit to the guys here, in terms of results, but I am more interested in the overall goal of become an attractive person through mastering each conversational skill over getting a girlfriend or an easy lay. Once the skills are ma…
/r/seduction02/03/15 02:29 AM
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Personally the 30 day challenge made no difference to me because i'v had a daily goal of opening one girl a day and my current steak is 209 days. I'v still got a fair way to go to get my conversational skills up to par but if I get out there and work on it every day, ill get there.
/r/seduction02/03/15 01:55 AM
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Why not do more to get them more attracted by teasing and being playful. If you're fun they will want to hang round you more because you give good feelings (in an attractive way) and the next step is they will want to date you.
/r/seduction27/02/15 01:11 AM
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Here are some notes that I wrote up during a bc that I did. It's just the structure of how you can respond to what a girl says. Organic conversation is just a combination of 5 things frames happening over and over again. This underlies everything that can be found in game. Organic conversation is simply different combinations of the following: Logical Dig deeper, commonality, relating, change topic Non- Logical Tease/mess around Conversation is a mix and every conversation has a certain kind of …
/r/seduction25/02/15 10:59 PM
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Cold read her based on what she is wearing or her body language or something. "You look very carefree, let me guess your not from here are you" or "You look like you mean business. Let me guess you work in business". With the cold read your still getting information but in a different way. I think your asking what to do with that information. Well with it do light teases or go into stories or relate in some way.
/r/seduction25/02/15 02:49 AM
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It looks like it is back up
/r/seduction23/02/15 07:04 PM
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Give this a read. http://www.theattractionforums.com/braddock/61180-text-game-braddock.html
/r/seduction22/02/15 06:23 AM
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Practice getting into fun conversations. Be playful with the customers with friendly banter.
/r/seduction22/02/15 04:30 AM
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If it's just what to say that is stopping you then just get some opinion openers and practice opening with them and stay in conversation till you have nothing to say and draw a blank. Keep on doing it and your brain will learn to think up more. I'v been going out for a few years now and i still get mind blanks. It's normal. Focus on getting into normal conversations first. Once you can do that then look into teasing and start working on that and so forth. Only focus on one thing to practice at a…
/r/seduction21/02/15 06:40 AM
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Use facebook messages the same way you'd use texting. Also one thing to remember and i think a lot of guys forget this when it comes to their facebook profiles. Essentially think of your facebook profile as a window for her into your world. If you have people tagging you in photos, places, ect it shows good qualities and you have shit going on however if your wall if full of you ranting about some bull shit then they will turn off straight away. Another thing with facebook is it makes it really …
/r/seduction21/02/15 06:22 AM
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Very good work man.I will say this, the most important thing for you at this moment is to keep going out no matter how hard it is. The time it takes to get good is different for everyone but the main difference between the people that get awesome and the people that dropout is that the people that drop out stop going out. So keep at it man and you will get there.
/r/seduction20/02/15 10:04 AM
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Ok i'm just going to address the title question Rejection hurts so much because you have failed to not getting what you strive to achieve. Simple as that. The problem at the moment for you is what you consider an achievement. In this case what you want to achieve is all reliant on her by getting her to let you kiss/have sex/talk to her/ect. Instead make all your achievements your own. The best example of this is instead make your goal "I have to approach a girl today and say hi". That goal does …
/r/seduction17/02/15 09:35 PM
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yes I saw them with girls as well as they helped me out by winging me. Yes this was in vegas.
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:34 AM
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I saw it first hand while out with them over the weekend. Not sure what sort of proof that you want
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:28 AM
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I went to the love systems superconference last year in vegas, Met all the big names in the company and they were all really nice guys. They all come from different cities in the world. There was guys who were Asian, Australian, English, American, ect. Their level of income ranged from only having a bit of money and some ran multi-million dollar companies. Their looks ranged from pretty attractive to ugly. Some guys were 4ft nothing and others were as tall as basketball players. They come from a…
/r/seduction17/02/15 04:36 AM
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I think that is a awesome work schedule for gaming. Wake up at 12, do some day game, work then sleep and repeat. It even allows you to go out and do nights on your nights off and it doesn't screw with your sleep schedule.
/r/seduction17/02/15 03:00 AM
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If you truly feel that you are ugly give this thread a read, especially Vox's post. http://www.theattractionforums.com/general-discussion/173149-ugly-guy-tries-getting-girls-results-inside.html#post1015783
/r/seduction17/02/15 02:02 AM
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At the end of the day we all have a social version, a shy version, ect of ourselves. It is our passions, our likes and dislikes that make us who we are. How we present that can be changed. One of the guys I know is the most unsociable social guy you can ever meet. He has top game when he is out but every other time he is reading, listening to podcasts, ect because that is what he likes to do. He has learnt to be sociable when the time requires it and because he has practiced the conversation ski…
/r/seduction16/02/15 07:10 AM
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The reason that the mystery method style didn't work for a lot of people was because it was teaching to be incongruent with who the person was. That's not to say it can't be used for self-improvement it just has to be congruent with who the person is. For example say a guy works in IT and he then gets a bunch of lines to show what he does in an attractive way. They are more likely to hit than if he tried to do lines designed for a magician even though they are lines because they are congruent wi…
/r/seduction16/02/15 06:11 AM
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It is also more direct which shows confidence as well as stating your intentions straight up and the best part of that is you get to find out straight away if she is interested and if she isn't well her loss and you can go talk to the next girl. The "i wonder what she's like" mindset also works really well with being direct because it helps with qualifying. By thinking that and giving her a compliment you're essentially communicating "your attractive but you have not won me over yet"
/r/seduction15/02/15 09:56 AM
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The speed of escalation does not determine what sort of relationship it will be. That is determined by things like how often you see a girl (2-3 times a week is about the range for the girlfriend compared to once a week maximum is what you want for fuck buddy) and what you do together (for a girl friend spend romantic time together compared to a fuck buddy where at max you'd probably meet up at a bar and have a few drinks before doing the deed). As for your question about speed of escalation, so…
/r/seduction15/02/15 07:30 AM
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By translation I meant transition. I must have been tired haha. Well say you both do math. Ask her in class "hey do you understand this?" If she does great, if she doesn't than its just as great. If she does get help from her getting her to explain it then be like ahh cool, then transition into another conversation. If she doesn't be like damn oh well, then again transition into another conversation.
/r/seduction13/02/15 06:49 AM
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As throwaway said, it's up to him at the end of the day. But if you still want to try something just try baby steps to get him exposed. Try get him to go up to a girl and ask "what is the time" or even small to get him to walk over to a girl but continue walking once you get up to her. It's how I got over my aa when I started day-game. If that still doesn't work your last resort is to father him. Be really harsh and say "look harden the fuck up. These are just girls" ect. Stuff like that to mayb…
/r/seduction13/02/15 05:25 AM
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Confidence is positive reference experiences. The more you do something, the more you will feel comfortable doing it. You can't show confidence by saying "look at me I'm confident" because that shows a lack of confidence and can come off as arrogant and cocky, as you said. Go look at a famous idol who you consider to be confident and watch interviews with them and see how they act. Do they act all "look at me, look at me" or do they act like "I know I can do this and it doesn't matter if you thi…
/r/seduction12/02/15 02:40 AM
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Question: Are they leaving when you are talking to them or are they just only giving one word responses? If they are leaving a lot then something is up with the approach or what you are talking about. If they are only providing one word answers then she could still like you but she just doesn't know what to talk about. So it's your job as the man to lead the conversation. Tell a story about something you did recently (also the general theme of the story should be a happy one, not a rant). Open u…
/r/seduction11/02/15 08:42 PM
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I just finished the gift of fear which is all about survival signals. Not exactly pickup based but a very interesting read. Now Psycho-Cybernetics which is the original self-help book which coined the concept of your self-image and how that effects if you succeed or not Next I plan to read iron john which is all about the ideas of masculinity
/r/seduction11/02/15 05:23 AM
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wow that actually looks interesting. The name reminds me of The female brain which is all about the female mind at a chemical level
/r/seduction11/02/15 05:21 AM
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While what this guy has said isn't wrong (especially with the it takes time, do baby steps ect), i'll present another side. Going to a trusted company (eg Read reviews and make sure they have a 100% money back guarantee if your not happy, also see what else they offer with it. I know of a company who provides a free month of their mentor program and free access to their private forum which all instructors of the company have to repond in as it is part of their job, after the bootcamp) for a boot…
/r/seduction06/02/15 12:18 AM
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Day 17: So I had coffee with the girl from friday night. I actually found out that she was a paralympian and competed in the london olympic games. Most of the conversation was very similar to friday night but i did tease more though probably not as much as I should of. She did talk more but it was still me controlling the conversation and I think I asked too many questions. We did end up hanging out at the cafe for 3 hours and once we got up to move she instantly talked about which way was the f…
/r/seduction03/02/15 08:42 AM
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Day 16: It started to rain that day so I only managed to open 1 girl.
/r/seduction03/02/15 08:35 AM
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Day 15: So went out to my usual spot. Here are the notes that I wrote 9:46 pm Didn't even acknowledge me. Wasn't loud enough 10:26 pm 2. Opened her with phone not allowed. I still don't think vibe is quite right but managed to sit down with her. Her friend came back and was like "are you about to steal my seat". Said "yep". Pretended to steal it. Gave it to her because it would of put me in weird position if I sat there. Said what is the occasion. They said no occasion. The one I was originally …
/r/seduction03/02/15 08:01 AM
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Quick question, if a girl got your number off you and then out of blue a week later texted you saying "hey, coffee tomorrow". Do you think you'd reply? Girls aren't just going through life waiting for a guy to just ask them out. From the looks of it you didn't try and build any connection at all. So she had no reason to reply. She doesn't even know if she likes you. It's up to you how you'd do it but I'd probably wait till you get back to school, try and get "help" from her about the shared subj…
/r/seduction01/02/15 07:35 AM
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This is something that I learned a while ago with anxiety. You don't feel anxiety you do anxiety. That goes for any other feeling. Everyone when they feel anxiety their body goes into the same position (to prove this pretend that you are really uncomfortable. What does your body do. Now pretend you just won the grand championship of your favourite sport. What does your body do?). So the best thing to do is look at guys who come off as laid back, ect and force yourself to practice that body langu…
/r/seduction01/02/15 03:39 AM
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Day 14: Ok decided to force myself to do one direct minimum. So I ended up opening this Norwegian girl. She just got into town that day and was leaving the next day, bummer. But went direct. Conversation went pretty good. Ended up sitting and continued talking. Was playfully teasing her. Calling her rude or when she said that she needed to head back to the hostel to meet with a friend and have a shower I said "yea I was wondering what that smell was" She playfully hit me. I told her about my imp…
/r/seduction30/01/15 03:47 AM
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Day 13: Time open again.
/r/seduction30/01/15 03:41 AM
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Braddock - The Ultimate Guide to Text and Phone Game Excellent resource. The most thorough book i'v read on phone and text game.
/r/seduction28/01/15 07:28 AM
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It's better to go to places you know. So it's best to have multiple places to go near yours that you can go. Dates tend to stagnate if in one place for too long. So getting up and going to a new place makes it feel like its a new date. Which if your doing everything else right builds to more comfort. What you could do is: meet at bar and have a drink and talk. go to 2nd bar with food Walk in the park Take her back to yours under the pretence of having another drink/coffee Bangtown If the date do…
/r/seduction27/01/15 07:36 AM
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oh haha. woosh
/r/seduction27/01/15 01:45 AM
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Sure. Your brain doesn't know that these people are paid to be there so people who are good practice. Just always remember that they are there to work so don't expect to be able to push it further then conversations much often. Practice getting into playful conversations to break the state of worker-state with some playful banter.
/r/seduction27/01/15 01:44 AM
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What?
/r/seduction27/01/15 01:34 AM
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She says it's being ignored because that's what it feels like for her but that's not what's happening. Really guys that txt too much are showing that she is the only important thing in their lives. I had a female friend who while was single would text me most days where as if I started doing the same she would start ignoring me but what kept her still doing so was that a few times when she txt me I was either at work or at a class or something and I'd send her one reply with "hey I'm at <blah bl…
/r/seduction27/01/15 01:22 AM
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Day 12: Not a lot of people were out today so I only did a asking for the time open.
/r/seduction27/01/15 12:23 AM
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Day 11: Did 2 day game approaches. First one tuned out she was a stripper about 30mins from starting at work because she said "if you come in in a bit we can talk and have some fun", I replied with no sorry and tried to continue the conversation but her mind was obviously already in seller mode because she shut down with no response once she found out that i wasn't a buyer. The second one was an english backpacker. Went in with a direct open and got a good response but didn't keep the conversati…
/r/seduction27/01/15 12:15 AM
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I think he just saw it as business ploy. "Oh this is your first time ok well first timers ask for directions. Next boot camp you ask for opinions and after that it's direct." There is nothing wrong with asking direction but only when it is calibrated with the context eg day game and you ask where the nearest cafe is. I do that as tiny little no pressure warm ups for myself. But yea doing that at night a bit weird. He would of been better getting you to do opinion (it's cliche but who lies more w…
/r/seduction25/01/15 02:59 PM
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I do agree with the guys on here that a lot of guys teaching are just blowing hot air. I'v met random guys who are friends of friends and they say that they are coaches. I listened to them and they were giving info equivalent to what you'd get from a psychic ("I teach men confidence" - seriously, confidence comes from having successful past experiences). You can't teach confidence but you can get people to do the actions in the direction of confidence). Though there are some awesome guys out the…
/r/seduction25/01/15 10:43 AM
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Up to you man. This is how you learn. She might be the sort of girl who gets over the breakup fast and 2 weeks will be fine. But you never truly know. Either way when you txt her the first time txt her with something funny (generally something with call back humor) so when she sees the message all the positive feelings comeback. Also side note all my advice generally comes from love systems phone and text game book by Braddock. I'm sure that there is a torrent of it and it is pretty good. Check …
/r/seduction25/01/15 01:57 AM
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Well from the sounds of it yea take my advise from before. Leave it for 3 weeks then txt her and try and start a conversation. Though I'd get rid of the mindset of "I'm sick of the time it's taking". It's a part of life. I know guys who had girls on txt for months before then got them out. Just because it took them that long for the girls to get comfortable with them. But the reason that it didn't bother them is because they were still going out and meeting girls every weekend so they had abunda…
/r/seduction24/01/15 10:46 PM
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Day 10: Winged a guy. It went pretty good. Girl named Sam was pretty into me as she was doing most of the talking. Winged again. Set went pretty long. She even ended up buying me a drink. General conversation and teased her that she was violent then found out that she was a doctor so teased her on that from other stuff I found out about her, couldn't make up her mind so "you've got either cancer or the flu it could be either one" or that she enjoys causing pain in her patients. I did get stuck o…
/r/seduction24/01/15 06:47 AM
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Give this a read http://www.theattractionforums.com/braddock/111917-braddock-how-flirt-women-art-push-pull.html Flirting is using push-pull effectively.
/r/seduction23/01/15 05:18 AM
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Just send a message saying "Sushi, 8pm tomorrow. This message will self-destruct in 3 seconds." If she doesn't reply assume it's not happening. If you still want to try again with this girl do what I said and send a message and each message she doesn't reply to extend the time between the message. I'v had one girl where I waited a month then sent an off the cuff message and she started replying again.
/r/seduction23/01/15 05:06 AM
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cool man
/r/seduction23/01/15 04:02 AM
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If she doesn't reply before the date treat it as a non issue (especially if you meet up with her again after when the date was, her: "hey sorry about missing the date", you: "don't worry about I ended up hanging out with friends that night anyway"). You never know what could of happened. Her phone could be broken for all you know. But what I'd do is send her an off the cuff message, something funny non serious. If she doesn't reply wait 2 days send another one, still no reply wait a week. If sti…
/r/seduction23/01/15 02:38 AM
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Day 9: General time open again. I believe I know what the issue is. It's not knowing what to say to non-backpackers because I know with backpackers I can talk about travel as a starting point. So I need to do a bunch of he said/she said each day. Side note I did run into hippy girl again and she noticed me and came over to talk and we chatted for a bit and found out that she found some people to head down the coast with and she wasn't sure if she was coming back but she would send me a message i…
/r/seduction22/01/15 11:51 PM
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Like was stated on the latest npr: invisibilia podcast on fear. The equasion for fear is Fear = thinking + time - Take away either one and you don't have fear
/r/seduction22/01/15 11:44 PM
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A college environment is excellent because it is so easy to open girls. But remember girls talk. So being very direct can get you a reputation very quickly So the best way to go about it is to do more social circle game. One example that happened to me was I was sitting beside this blonde in a coffee shop on campus. She was playing with her phone only, not looking around, etc. and I was sitting beside her. I said to her you look really serious playing that game... She was like yeah! I was like w…
/r/seduction22/01/15 10:49 AM
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Hey man. I wouldn't worry about mum thing. A guy once told me that with any girl of any attractiveness or any situation you can practice something. If she isn't your type or she isn't very attractive just approach to practice banter. Everyone appreciates a fun conversation
/r/seduction22/01/15 04:17 AM
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Day 8: Ok so i'm back into it. Still recovering from the flu but at the tail end of it. Started noticing some of my meditation techniques have become useful. Anyway onto the open. I was walking home and i saw this cute girl sitting on a bench. Went over and opened her directly with my standard "Hi, I just saw you as I was walking up and I had to come and tell you that I think that you look absolutely adorable", She said thanks and I quickly ducted that she was a backpacker so went into my usual …
/r/seduction21/01/15 11:33 PM
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Day 7: I seemed to have caught the flu so after forcing myself to work by the end of the day I just wanted to go home so I just did a simple time opener. I know excuses but I just opened just to keep the momentum.
/r/seduction21/01/15 01:40 AM
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Day 6: So yesterday I decided no time openers. Only direct. After work, before gym I walked round the mall for a bit and ended up opening this cute girl in a blue dress. I opened direct with "Hi, I saw you from over there and I just had to come and tell you that I think that you look absolutely adorable". She thanked me and I tried to continue the conversation but I have a bit of a sticking point if the girl isn't a backpacker (I know weird but I had a stretch where ever girl that I was opening …
/r/seduction20/01/15 01:02 AM
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Day 5: Ok so this day I was pretty busy so again I only got one open in again. I did meet up with friends who brought a girl I'd never met before and I had a good chat with her. I didn't ask but I was pretty sure she was gf of one of the guys. That night I did speak with my mentor and I got some good points from him. And feel better. I'm just going to count this weekend as being a bit off. So new week this week and onwards to progress.
/r/seduction19/01/15 05:12 AM
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Day 4: Yea I was still in my head too much this day so I only got a quick daygame open.
/r/seduction19/01/15 05:08 AM
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Thanks man.
/r/seduction19/01/15 05:07 AM
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Hey man about day 5. If she catches you looking at her boobs (wether you were or weren't). Own it. Just say confidently "yes I was looking at your boobs" and just continue the interaction. She will like it because your owning your masculinity. Her interest started to wane because her test was "does he like me" and because you tried to come up with something funny instead of owning it and saying "yes I like you, I was looking at your boobs" she assumed that you weren't interested.
/r/seduction19/01/15 05:06 AM
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I had a female friend who always does the wink faces ";)". Every now and then i use it as a reason to tease For example "Look, you can't get in my pants just by winking at me. I like to be wined and dined first". I always get a laugh
/r/seduction19/01/15 02:23 AM
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Push pull is just flirting (http://www.theattractionforums.com/braddock/111917-braddock-how-flirt-women-art-push-pull.html). So being direct is actually part of push pull.
/r/seduction17/01/15 12:46 PM
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Day 3: Done another time open this morning on the way to the gym. It is friday so i'll be out tonight and plan on doing at least 10. I'll update tomorrow. Update: So I went out last night. Here is what I wrote in my journal. So I went out last night and I had a very mixed night. I didn't hit my 10 opens. I actually only got 4 and none of them were really pushing them to anything. But I did have one set that went long which i'm happy with even though it started from me winging a friend and I coul…
/r/seduction17/01/15 02:54 AM
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Day 2: Work seriously had me swamped so I only had time to do a quick asking for the time open on my way home.
/r/seduction17/01/15 02:48 AM
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Oh this video is a plug. Cool man. Good luck with everything
/r/seduction16/01/15 11:34 AM
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Honestly, a 3 day is only useless if afterwards you don't do anything. The only difference is that a multi week bootcamp has more infield because you can squeeze most of the theory into 3 days. The rest is just getting out there and practicing. So in my experience a 3 day bootcamp then working with a mentor for an extended period of time is just as good. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying a multi-week bootcamp are pointless, I'm just saying that they both work and at the end of the day it all com…
/r/seduction16/01/15 08:58 AM
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A boot camp is good as long as you find a company who know what they are doing. Iv done a boot camp and it was very good (not going to name the company because then the conversation will become people's opinions of said company) not just for the theory but also for the infield. It is a very good starting point but the next step is to have a mentor which is what I have now (from the same company). Both mentor and bootcamp is beneficial. Like he said in the video. "It doesn't just end after these …
/r/seduction16/01/15 08:37 AM
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Hey man. Don't worry about it. The thing that got me to be able to approach is realising that the fear is a pattern. So I broke the pattern by baby stepping it. I saw a girl, I felt fear so I just stopped and turned to look back at her then I continued on my way. Once I got used to that, when I saw a girl I stopped, turned and followed her for 100m (I did this in a mall so whatever distance you feel is fine) then continued on my way. Then finally once I was comfortable with that I stopped, turne…
/r/seduction14/01/15 06:16 AM
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Nice work man. As for formatting, click formatting help link under the comment box and it will give you the basics
/r/seduction14/01/15 05:58 AM
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Good work man. Keep it up
/r/seduction14/01/15 05:08 AM
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Day 1: On the way to the gym I did my usual thing and opened by asking for the time. I opened one girl while she was waiting at the crosswalk with it, got the time and left. Then as I got to the river I saw another girl seated on a bunch and went up and did the same. Both went fine. Got the time and moved on. I will try to do a direct this afternoon. If I do, i'll update this. Breakdown: Not really anything to breakdown. I use asking for the time as warm ups and it gets my brain into the process…
/r/seduction14/01/15 03:38 AM
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I think you should ask the mods to sticky this too so people can see it till the end of the 30 days
/r/seduction13/01/15 04:14 AM
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Sign me up. I'v been doing one a day for a while now but this would be good to motivate me to push a bit harder.
/r/seduction13/01/15 03:31 AM
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