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The 'Blue Pill Example' in this post is you. You have a scarcity mentality if you're chasing after every plate like that. What reason do you have for getting involved in the other guy's relationships? I don't know what country you're from, but in the US you can't know if he might not have a gun or something and a short fuse. Try meditating and analysing your emotions. You're clearly upset or angry if you're going out of your way to track down your ex-plate's new bf, but it doesn't seem like you'…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 06:32 PM
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Really well phrased. This is an excellent - if long - look at modern political tribes and echo chambers written by a surprisingly smart liberal (and it's from two years ago, so it doesn't have as much election-focused drivel as you might expect).
/r/TheRedPill21/12/16 01:55 AM
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There's also a huge difference between admitting a vulnerability to a close friend, and openly shouting about all your personal and private problems. The first one should be met with understanding and respect, the second with dismissal.
/r/askTRP21/12/16 12:50 AM
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Even if she has every known disease under the sun, odds are you didn't pick them all up. You're already getting tested for HIV, which is good, but other than that you should learn your lesson from it. Don't do that shit again - always wrap it and don't sleep with someone who doesn't seem to understand basic hygiene (that should be obvious, imo).
/r/askTRP20/12/16 03:52 AM
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Consider that that might be the average number of /r/relationships posters. The sort of person who does that (and then posts their number) isn't likely to be a low-count person. It's called selection bias and it's super interesting to read about imo - once you know about it you see it everywhere.
/r/askTRP20/12/16 03:48 AM
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Some guys on here get really butthurt about it because they've been cheated on in the past, and it's easier to blame the other guy (who you don't know) than the girl who you were actually in a relationship with. It's a bit pathetic really.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/16 12:59 PM
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The first time I thought it was a typo, but apparently not. If you mean 'intolerance/fear/hatred of gay people' that's homophobia - note the extra O in there. It's also not accurate. I want to sleep with women, so more gay men (= less competition) is straight-up good for me. Gay men are the one group I care the least about sexually, as I don't want to bang them and don't have to worry about them getting with the people I do want to bang.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/16 11:41 AM
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There's a youtube channel called 'Charisma on Command' that's pretty good. Link here Basically, it's a series of videos where each one discusses why a certain person comes across as likeable, funny, or clever in an interview or discussion and how to apply that yourself.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/16 08:34 AM
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The one thing that article got 100% right is that we're looking for answers. People who come here are confused - "Why doesn't she like me?" and "Why did she flake on me?" and "Why would she dump me?" - and when they find answers, and answers that work, they stay.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/16 06:36 PM
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Even if you're a complete psychopath with no empathy at all, it can be very validating to make a woman orgasm. It's a confirmation that yes, you're doing it right and you're good at it.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/16 08:02 PM
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Leverage is the other way around - the less you have, the more you get in a divorce. If I earn less money than her, she gets nothing. Ideally you want to earn more than her for status reasons, but not so much that a divorce would fuck you over. Then again, you shouldn't be getting married anyway in my opinion.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/16 05:39 AM
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The secret that nobody wants to mention is that most people simply can't be trusted to not make the stupid choice, every single time. It's why I like living in a country where private gun ownership is not allowed - I don't trust the average moron to be responsible. Likewise, if you're in a school, you can't let the students decide what to eat, what to drink, what to wear etc. because they'll do shit that's completely retarded. Simple statistics - the payoff for those who can handle it, in many c…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/16 05:03 AM
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The best way to not die alone is to become an alcoholic bus driver.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 01:53 AM
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But how much more productive would we be, or could we be, if the ones in power feared the ones they rule? It's more likely to be the other way around. Companies have more power than individuals because they can afford better lawyers - due to more money, manpower etc. Now if there is also the option of one of you killing the other, who do you think will win? It's very romantic (not in the relationship sense) to imagine the small-time guy picking up a shotgun and going Die Hard on a faceless corpo…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 03:22 AM
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? The whole post is talking about how to be the dominant partner with women, if you actually read it. 'Top' refers to a role in the BDSM community, which is about tying people up and not really about having sex with guys (although I'd be surprised if there weren't any gay BDSM fans).
/r/TheRedPill19/12/15 01:57 AM
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Part of it might also be that afaik there are more white adopting families per white baby given up for adoption than in any other culture, since they tend to be richer and also most likely to have fertility problems - maybe because they wait longest to have kids.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/15 01:31 AM
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people mistake the map for the territory Are you by any chance a reader of lesswrong too?
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 06:46 PM
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Women are just cunts and best kept out of sight my mum was a cunt and wreaked havoc on my mental health and esteem my step mom is unbelievably rational,spits solid red pill truth and treats me like a king TBH if you have 2 total experiences to draw from, you can't make generalisations like "she must be 0.0000001% of women". The problem isn't that there aren't any good women, the problem is it's really fucking hard to find out which of them are good and which aren't, since they mostly act very si…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 12:11 PM
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It's beta in the sense that it's 'losing' or 'weak' in the long term. It's poor game that will bite you in the ass both in terms of your relationship and legally/socially, even without looking at the morals of the situation. However, the behaviour itself is 'dominant' in the sense of exerting control over someone. Basically both people perceive (or should perceive) themselves to be weak as the perpetrator has to fall back on physical strength and take on associated risks instead of winning verba…
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 12:50 AM
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opens the door to meeting her girlfriends OP is married. Other than that I agree with you.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 12:43 AM
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If you're playing chess, you don't just move pieces at the enemy king to win. Sometimes you even move pieces directly away from him, even though killing him is the end goal. Likewise, if you want to succeed at anything complicated, there's plenty of preparation and intermediate steps that don't directly involve the end goal. You wanna know how to just go straight to sleeping with women? You rape them. I'm hoping I don't have to explain to you how fucking moronic that would be.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 12:41 AM
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we define "women" as anyone female identifying -- including transgender Simple. Show up and say "I've decided I'm a woman, and I identify as a woman. Now give me free tuition." They can't really say no, can they?
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 01:12 AM
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Could you do a post on Skinner boxes and the principles behind them? I think it would tie in nicely with the last two posts, but I don't have an indepth understanding of it, so if I'm talking out my ass, just ignore me. Either way, great post. This is much more useful than yet another 'I picked up a slut at the bar today, and I'm awesome' post, which has sadly become more common.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 01:11 AM
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Also, if you take 30mg of Zinc consider taking copper as well.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/15 02:20 AM
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Statically women are responsible for 90% of divorces. Source? I'd always heard 70% but I might just not be up to date.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 04:09 PM
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I don't really know all that much about the laws involved, just that the description in OP's post sounds like rape by deception even though she consented.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 06:54 PM
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I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if that's covered by rape laws but somehow I doubt that's classified as rape by deception.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 06:54 PM
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This isn't sexual assault, this is rape by deception. and It was consensual. Legally, I think it's both (i.e. she consented, but it's legally rape because what she claims she consented to wasn't what appears to have happened)
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 06:07 PM
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Chivalry was a code of combat mostly. There were rules for what length lance you could use in which joust, for example. There was very little about women at all - and back then, knights would routinely rape peasants just because they could.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 10:14 PM
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Yeah, the fundamental idea is that she's not yours, it's just your turn. You shouldn't ever rely 100% on someone else, because you're not just trusting them as they are now, you're also trusting that there's no set of circumstances where they would take advantage of that. Attraction is fickle enough that that's never even remotely close to a safe bet.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 01:42 PM
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It's to always be in a position where you can leave. It's fine to make an informed investment in a woman, like moving in together if you want kids, as an example. But you have to always be willing to walk, pay the penalty (child support/alimony, or emotional cost) and move on with your life. Marriage is simply not worth it, ever. If you earn more than your wife, you make it even harder to leave if your relationship turns to shite. If you have assets from before marriage, you risk them all if she…
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 03:44 AM
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This is completely correct. Everything makes sense if you adjust it this way: "Right now I feel like you're perfect for me and I'll never want anyone else" "We can make this long-distance relationship work - I won't find someone new, I can guarantee it! ...is how I feel at the moment" Every single time.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/15 03:39 AM
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I think they're actually technically dolphins, not whales. I'm not sure where I remember that from, though
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 01:31 PM
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See, I'm not sure if you're deliberately trolling with that username or actually a retard. I'm leaning more towards the latter.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 09:35 PM
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I don't disagree with you, but I think you're presenting your position poorly. Consider the following questions: If two people make an agreement, and I'm not involved, why should I be bound by it later? The girlfriend agreed not to cheat, but I didn't agree not to try to sleep with her. Why is it immoral to sleep with someone who has a verbal agreement at most to not sleep around? If you don't have any STDs and don't get her pregnant, you're not risking the health of anyone involved. If I couldn…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 03:14 AM
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as humans we have developed beyond our primal instincts and urges. I disagree. I think we've managed to control our primal instincts and urges, but they're still there, just buried. When normal proceedings break down, murder and rape (along with other depravities) come out again - look at parts of Africa that don't have a proper government, for example. Groups of people force certain behaviours onto the individuals so that everyone benefits (e.g. taxes, legal system), although sometimes the beha…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 03:07 AM
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Depends on what you're after, I guess. It sounds like OP enjoys an LTR with her enough that he doesn't want it to end immediately. If he keeps it going a bit longer, and has fun with it, that's a perfectly valid goal. If he just wants to dump her, then he can go with your suggestion and do that as well.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 07:43 PM
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If you like the superhero genre, try reading Worm. It's the best story I've ever read, and I'd honestly almost consider it more like a sci-fi than a superhero story - the world-building is incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:22 PM
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"I doubt it'll happen ever" will get her to start looking for a new guy. She'll branch swing so fast it'll leave your head spinning. "I doubt it'll happen soon" feeds her hamster, and OP can decide on his own terms if/when he wants to break up. There's a difference between thinking/acting a certain way, and explicitly stating it.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 09:59 AM
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To sum up the post in a single sentence: She's not yours, it's just your turn.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 06:16 PM
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Yeah, but the Pareto principle - without an example of it applying to this specific case - doesn't prove the 80/20 rule
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:59 PM
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It's actually from a study done by a dating site that showed that their female users rated 80% of men as below average (i.e. 5/10 or less). I can't find the link atm, but I distinctly remember it. I'll add it later when I have time to look for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:52 AM
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We now live in an age where everyone can be remembered. All it takes is to have, somewhere on an enduring medium, something of yourself. Everyone who has a blog that's on the wayback machine will leave something of themselves behind, even if it's never seen.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/15 06:44 PM
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Its not your own idea though and thats makes it beta (because you follow it) unless there is really clear scientific evidence for it. Something not being your own idea doesn't make it beta to believe it. There are so many ideas that have already been thought that most people will have very few truly original ideas in their entire life, and those will be wrong. What makes following an idea beta is the reason why you follow it. If you follow it because the idea seems nicer than the alternative, th…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/15 06:42 PM
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While she was clearly a cunt, she was also (probably) just a scapegoat for changes that reddit wanted to make anyway. Then they boot her afterwards, don't reverse any changes, and keep going as before (e.g. coontown got told they wouldn't be banned and now they have been - I don't have that much of a problem with reddit banning subs, as long as they're consistent and get rid of places like srs as well)
/r/TheRedPill08/08/15 03:55 PM
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So it would be racist to say "black people can handle the sun better because they have more melanin"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 02:58 PM
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MGTOW = Men Going Their Own Way. Basically means focusing on yourself, ignoring women and (optionally) producing only enough to maintain yourself (i.e. avoid unnecessary work and try to get by on as little money as possible).
/r/TheRedPill06/08/15 09:48 PM
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There's a bit slightly later on where he buys some bar slut a sandwich, then she goes off with someone else so he asks her for the money back. Later on that evening she goes home with him.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/15 03:41 PM
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If you're reading about wealth and how to achieve, it, I'd recommend 'The Richest Man in Babylon'. It's quite simple, and boils down to a few principles (most importantly, save and invest and least 10% of your income), but it's very motivational and I think it's somewhere on the sidebar/on some other TRP recommended reading list.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 05:38 PM
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I'm in. Got ~9 hours last night
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 04:19 PM
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Yeah, enjoy your turn then pass her along to the next guy in as good a shape as you can.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 10:50 AM
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It's impossible to have genuine emotion towards an abstraction. I mostly agree with your post, except here. There are plenty of people who dislike abstract groups of people. For example, I would argue a lot of people hate ISIS. There are people who hate Isreal, and people who hate Afghanistan, and people who hate Iran, and people who hate Russia. Some people even hate Muslims in general. These obviously aren't all sensible things to hate, but people do hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 10:47 AM
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HB5 depends on the person looking at the scale - it's the borderline of fuckable, basically, and that obviously varies from person to person. HB4 is 'after a few drinks', anything below that is completely off limits.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/15 09:48 PM
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You want to make it seem like you don't judge her (even though privately, you do). Basically, if you come across as though you think the number doesn't matter, she's more likely to increase it - with you. So you should say something like "I like women that know what they want" or "It's great that you're so modern about it" or something else that feeds the hamster by saying that you're fine with it, but also with a little bit of non-directness.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/15 09:37 PM
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There's a great mindset I try to have that is really important: "Not every change is an improvement, but every improvement is a change. You can't become more correct by arguing for something - at most, you make more other people agree. To improve your beliefs, you must change them." There are probably plenty of places that TRP could be improved. I don't know where they are. But if/when someone finds one, I want to be able to recognise it and change my mind.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 10:22 PM
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I read something on here earlier that black women tend to be more masculine (strong woman who don't need no man, no father so mother has to be manly), so if he has the pick of the litter (which he does) he might as well go for the very best. There's also obviously the cultural part of white women being harder to get for black guys.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 01:50 AM
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"If you can't beat them, join them" This quote is, for me, the most important part of life. Whenever you start to feel envious, consider whether you could do what the other person is doing. If yes, then go and fucking do it instead of whining like a little bitch. If no, then they've clearly done something you can't and they fucking deserve that shit. Except stuff like genetics/family/wealth, which is in many ways a crapshoot, so there's no point wasting time thinking about it and how other peopl…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/15 01:47 AM
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Those quotes though: "I'm not a nice person, and I don't care about you. I care about the technology and the kernel—that's what's important to me." "the most important part of open source is that people are allowed to do what they are good at" and "all that [diversity] stuff is just details and not really important." He really doesn't give a shit about SJWs, because he knows that they don't contribute to or even use Linux.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 04:19 PM
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It wasn't me who downvoted, if that's what you're implying. What would be the point? I haven't seen what you're referring to, and I don't really care to, so I wouldn't think you're wrong anyway. I was just trying to point out that frame >>> actual actions when it comes to deciding whether someone is alpha or beta.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 10:42 PM
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The thing is, while I haven't seen what you're referring to, the behaviour isn't necessarily beta. Depending on the frame, it could mean "I want you, but my goal (my research) is more important to me than you are. I value other things more than you." This is obviously an alpha frame.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 06:32 PM
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Violent rape is basically assault that includes your genitals. Imagine being beaten up, except your penis and testicles also get battered to the point they bleed. Apart from the purely physical problems, you'll obviously also be likely to have issues with your genitals for a while just from remembering the pain/abuse.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 06:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure the various iPhone hoaxes are a tradition now. Apart from the microwave one, they also took part in convincing people to bend their phones, and before that they spread the 'news' that the new OS makes your iPhone waterproof, with expected results.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 02:27 AM
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But why would you want to get a random foreign slut pregnant? All other things aside, your potential kid would probably have a pretty shitty life with a mother like that. Besides, if she lets you fuck her without a condom, odds are she lets others do it as well after the same timespan.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 02:18 AM
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You can bring all the AR-15's you want to the party, you're not going to beat the US Army. I doubt you'd beat the Coast Guard. There's a lot of people disagreeing with this, so I'd just like to point out that not only does the US Army have a lot of guns, training, discipline and a proper chain of command, they also have ICBMs, tanks, heavy explosives, better guns and even drones. Anyone who thinks a modern professional military can't beat a militia, even if the militia is several times their siz…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:24 PM
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If you want to read more about evolution, there's a great description here. Most important part is: Evolution is powered by a systematic correlation between the different ways that different genes construct organisms, and how many copies of those genes make it into the next generation. For rattles to grow on rattlesnake tails, rattle-growing genes must become more and more frequent in each successive generation. [...] There isn't an Evolution Fairy that looks over the current state of Nature, de…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:20 PM
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I'm sure there are people who are trying to be these "Shadowy men in dark rooms", but I'm really skeptical of their ability to exert this level of control, and their desire for current developments. Sure, you can argue that this makes their positions (and those of their descendants) stronger, but the 'site' they have their positions in is decreasing in value. Compare the current economic and military power in the US, UK or other Western countries with the possibilities if they were manipulated a…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 02:12 PM
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I miss when the Guardian had more content like this. At least they weren't as strongly feminist a few years ago, and had some actual useful articles.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 01:52 PM
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Who's to say they didn't already try to blackmail AM, and it didn't work, so now they're following through on their threats? Or even that it did work, and they're carrying out the threats anyway?
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 01:48 PM
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I remember reading a post on TRP a few months back about someone whose co-worker talked about why he still loved his wife even though she was old and quite frankly not that attractive any more, even relatively. It was something along the lines of "every wrinkle on her brow, every line on her face, every grey hair is from her caring for and worrying about me and our children". I can't remember exactly how it was written, but it was rather poetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:01 AM
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What matters isn't whether it's winning for me, it's whether it's winning for the woman. And based on sexual strategies, yes that would be a 'winning' BB strategy for a woman.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 08:04 PM
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There are a few reasons why it isn't. A double standard implies that the only difference in the two situations (man with high number, woman with high number) is the gender. That's is a difference, but not the only one. If I'm a man with a high number, I have to work to get there. I need to be attractive, I need to be extremely socially competent (i.e. have game), and I need to want to have a high number. If I'm a woman with a high number, I only need to want it. There are fat, ugly sluts. There …
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 06:22 PM
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[Physics is] just not a science, since it doesn't have an empirical component. Physics has many different parts. There's a huge difference between theoretical physics (for example String Theory) and stuff like mechanics, astrophysics and nuclear physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:56 PM
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Fair enough. I'd imagine it's especially bad right now, what with the whole debt crisis and tensions running high :/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:45 PM
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Which country? I can't imagine that in Western Europe or North America things are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:41 PM
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Pretty funny example of how some people thought D&D worked
/r/TheRedPill17/07/15 10:52 AM
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The perfect metaphor for AWALT: "All Guns Are Loaded".] Is every single gun in the world always loaded? No. Should you treat any gun as though it were loaded? Yes. Is every single gun in the world theoretically capable of fucking you up massively? Yes.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 07:28 PM
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I'd assume that's similar to the maintenance cost of something like a washing machine? I'm obviously not an expert though.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 04:30 PM
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That's the most perfect description of AWALT I've ever heard. "All guns are loaded."
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 11:59 AM
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No, I think you misunderstood something. A woman who wants to 'take it slow' isn't looking for AF (which you want to be), she's looking for BB (which you don't want to be). Basically, she wants to settle down with the highest SMV male she thinks she can get to commit to her. Part of her wanting a long-term partner and ATM is that the partner shouldn't expect much sex, since she's not that attracted to him sexually. THAT'S why she makes you wait, and that's why you should either attempt to change…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 11:51 AM
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It would probably eventually be cheaper, and it's a one-time cost. It's kinda like the difference between arcade games and owning a games console in terms of how much you are able to use it, except with the added bonus that there will probably be a lot of homemade/pirated stuff to download for free (assuming it ends up being kinda like videogames).
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 11:43 AM
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I think it's the classic hedge/gamble distinction between genders. The female genes are a hedged bet (why there are fewer women geniuses/retards) and the male genes are a gamble (more variation, more likely to win big but more likely to lose everything). Obviously, it makes sense to secure the relatively safe outcome first from an evolutionary perspective. So if you are not sure if your children will be fine, you guarantee that the daughter can pass on genes. On a completely separate level, you …
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 09:59 PM
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The context of your post was in bad times The context of my post was that it's based on the article I linked. This is recent data (from the 1980s onwards) and the experiment is very recent. "Bad times" refers to economic recession, like the recent banking crisis that we're still not completely out of.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 09:38 PM
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It's quite simple. These results are based on already having one of each child, and living in a relatively well-off country. In China, there is a real risk of starvation in the rural areas, and with the one child policy, a son is better for working fields and will also be able to pass on the family name and care for the parents in their old age (as far as I'm aware, the wife normally moves into the husband's family's house). With a context like that, where it's more important to have male kids j…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 10:28 AM
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What's his hypothesis? He makes several points, but to be honest he completely failed to mention the experiment which I thought was the whole point of the article. Also, research into spending in true poverty like India would definitely be interesting, but research into behaviour in the West is much more applicable for most people here.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 01:18 AM
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Watch what they do, not what they say. While most women want a guy who's 6'+, makes 6 figures and has a ripped body, there are very few such men around. Supply and demand says that either the women who don't get a guy like that drop out of the gene pool, along with the lower-tier men, or they make do (with BB). If the tall guys had more kids than the short guys, then maybe in a few hundred years people would be noticeably taller, but I doubt it will happen in reality. More interesting stuff on e…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 12:45 AM
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If you think rationally about it You and I have a very different definition of rationality. "Parents are giving their daughters more money, but only in poor economic times when it's harder for people to find jobs, and it's because men have it easy." Watch the hamster wheel go round and round here. edit: I want to go into more detail on why I think you're wrong. Basically, for your argument to work the following conditions have to be met: It is more likely for women to have a severe lack of resou…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 11:29 PM
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They looked at trends over the last 30 years, but also ran an experiment. If you click the link, you can read about it.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 09:11 PM
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A lot of evolution is outdated. Evolution works by basically lagging a little bit behind the current optimal state, because natural selection then forces our genetic code to move closer to it. Here's some interesting reading on evolution and how slow/inefficient it can be. Furthermore, I personally consider myself smart enough that I'm a better judge of how I want to distribute resources than an implanted bias in my subconscious. I might, in the end, come to the same conclusion, but I'd rather h…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 09:11 PM
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The data is based on an average of around 650 people, so it's possible that your description is accurate, since purely by demographic size the numbers would come out as they have (there are many more poor/middle-class people than upper-class/rich).
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 08:12 PM
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Parents will invest more into their sons during prosperous times. That's the interesting thing: they don't. According to this study at least, when times are good or neutral, the parents split their will evenly between their son and daughter.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 07:59 PM
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Sorry, I misunderstood your post. I thought you were arguing in favour of banning prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:44 AM
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There's one flaw with your argument right now: you're assuming that banning prostitution will prevent the woman from starving. Assuming there are two choices, become a prostitute or starve, then eliminating one choice doesn't solve the problem. If, instead, another option were added - for example to go to a food bank - then why couldn't it be added as an alternative? In that case, no-one needs to be a prostitute to survive. Basically, people having so little food that they starve to death is a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:55 PM
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I see what you mean, but I would say it's more like TRP is *insert specific religion* and Blue Pill is every other religion plus atheism, since there are many different ways to disagree with TRP, but relatively few ways to agree with it (or put another way, there is more variety outside of TRP than inside in terms of ideologies)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:41 PM
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Specific examples of predictions I've made - it's hard to put into words, but I'll try. Since discovering TRP I've modified my behaviour around groups of people (and not just girls). Beforehand, I anticipated more positive attention and more, for want of a better word, recognition. I also expected to be in, or at least nearer to, the position of an 'alpha', for want of a better word. Both of these things happened. More importantly, they happened consistently and they failed to happen when I undi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:16 PM
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For me, beliefs are anticipation-controllers - that is, they change what I expect to see in a situation. Some of my beliefs (or anticipated outcomes) are based on ideas from TRP. But if I have a belief, and anticipate certain outcomes, only to make false predictions regularly then I drop that belief. I also consider evidence from a Bayesian perspective (i.e. there is no 'absolute' proof, only relative proof that shifts probability mass around between hypotheses). I think I have enough Bayesian e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:00 AM
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Probably from the 'friend' that she and her husband had a 'threesome' with.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 03:39 PM
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Yeah, but if he were to be honest about it, it would be harder for him to not notice he wifed up a massive sloot. "I can fit my entire hand in her vagina. An average penis doesn't fill her up at all," is harder to ignore as a sign of past sluttiness than "She's big down there."
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 08:31 AM
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I've noticed this too, and not just with women. Essentially, they treat it politically ("how does admitting I'm wrong reflect on me", "what political motivation do they have for attacking me" etc) because they aren't used to not treating people like backstabbing cunts. An inability to analyze the actual content of a message is a huge weakness. One of the reasons why many people (especially women) fail in STEM is because they treat everything - even objective stuff like programming or running exp…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/15 08:13 PM
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We even have advice for them: just enjoy the decline!
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 09:25 PM
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Even if everyone else leaves, TRP can stay until we get banned. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is one of the more self-contained communities, and that even if this were the only sub left on reddit the majority of users would stay.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/15 01:19 PM
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You seem to think that me being an asshole is linked to me being a Red Piller. I've been an asshole for much longer than that, I'm just honest about it now. And me being an asshole doesn't make me wrong. How I feel about things, and whether they're true, isn't strongly entangled. I mean most of your points aren't even points, but the typical RP "nuh-uh." You guys show me consistently that you can't critically analyze for shit and think doubt is the sole, unbeatable method of critical analysis. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:25 AM
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There's a chance you're wrong This is why the last part is only relevant if you understand Bayes' theorem. Besides, if the last thing you have left to say is "You might be wrong", I think we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:56 AM
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Would you say this is an accurate definition of 'rape apologia/apology': Rape apology is an umbrella term for any arguments suggesting that rape is infrequent, misreported, over-reported, not that big a deal, or that it is even excusable in some circumstances, such as within a marriage or if the victim was "provocatively dressed". "Apology" in this case means defense or justification, like in "Christian apologetics", and not a statement expressing regret. Because "any arguments suggesting that r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:57 AM
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The thing is, I feel like nobody here except me dares to be critical of a victim of anything. And all of the evidence that I can get from that picture says that she's probably not a victim of anything except regret the next day. If you know about Bayes' theorem/Bayesian evidence, almost everything about that picture is evidence against her story. And even when you factor in the prior probability, the posterior probability is still below 10% (that is, I feel confident that if I were to make the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:16 AM
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totally peaceful - definitely never warring, scalping, or raping - Native American tribes Just gonna leave this here so everyone who didn't realise you were sarcastic before downvoting can feel stupid.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/15 06:20 PM
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Well, I don't know many men with nice boobs :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:12 PM
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Dude, you're being unreasonable. I'm saying that the reason her rapist doesn't consider himself a rapist, is because he isn't a rapist. I'm saying that her being drunk when she consented, as long as they were both drunk, means it's not rape, it's just sex she regrets the next day. I'm saying that if her boyfriend and all her friends tell her it's not rape after she gives her own account of what happened, it's probably not rape. And here's another thing you guys don't get: Yeah, none of that is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:59 PM
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You're not. If TRPers are disagreeing with you on this, they either have not read the sidebar, read it but do not understand it, read it understand it but do not agree with it, or are simply talking out of their ass. There have been articles about this on IllimitableMan's page and the TheRationalMale. We could decrease crime rates with forced sterilisation of poor people. Rationally, it might even be a good way to solve some of the world's problems. That doesn't mean it's a good idea. I don't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:45 PM
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I read some TRP posts after a friend introduced me to it. He opened up with an argument along the lines of: There are differences between male and female brains Men and women look for different things in relationships You should pay more attention to what you observe people doing than what they tell you they do. [Generally, people's capacity for self-deception is very high - I'm sure I self-deceive as well, even though I'm trying to notice and prevent it - so it's better to go by actions than wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:41 PM
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I'm TRP STEM (still a student atm). I assume from your opening paragraph you frequent lesswrong.com as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:03 PM
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They both should. They've eliminated their combined genetic material, after all. I shudder to think how stupid their kids would be.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/15 01:39 AM
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It's a rabbit, not a guinea pig (look at the ears). But I'm still not sure if it's a huge rabbit or tiny butterfly
/r/TheRedPill29/06/15 09:30 AM
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That's preselection in a nutshell - the man has proven he has good qualities by already having a relationship, so he is more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 06:03 AM
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Don't take antibiotics unless you need them (see here for why) And I'm pretty sure they're ineffective against most STDs as well.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 03:01 AM
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We can gather in small tribes and get our needs met on our own. That's bullshit. I get where you're coming from, but without modern inventions - hell, even just without modern medicine - you would live to be (on average) 40-50, and your quality of life would go down the shitter. Like it or not, civilisation is vital for everyone. Even if you were to go live in a hut in a forest with your friends, you'd still want/need electricity, clean running water, medicine, fuel, clothes, agricultural suppli…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/15 07:28 PM
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No offense, but that sounds quite whiny. Would you rather be a woman than a man? Men often get shit on, sure, and it's not really recognised by society, but overall I think we have it better - at least those of us who've swallowed the Red Pill. There's more room for self-improvement, and we don't fall off as hard later in life.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/15 03:28 PM
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4 also reminds me of 'They Live'.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:27 PM
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Use her by letting her think she's using you. But be very careful that she's not following the same strategy. It's important to regularly consider who's benefiting the most, and to put aside your pride when doing so. It's much to easy to let yourself get manipulated, taken advantage of, and generally played like a fiddle while telling yourself "I'm the one in charge" because it strokes your ego.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 03:10 PM
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I'd say to just ignore it. Interestingly enough, people who visit a site called 'RationalWiki' and treat everything written there as gospel tend to be the sort of people who are far from rational. Either they're going to look up TRP for themselves and make up their own mind, or they aren't going to be convinced by anything you write.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/15 02:44 PM
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You're gonna be waiting quite a while for that, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:49 PM
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Ah, I misunderstood. I thought by 'failure state' you meant she'd already done those things. In that case, go ahead with your plan. I think that you will lose your oneitis on the way, but even if you don't you will be in a much better position with regards to relationships anyway. I get the feeling that you consider her a unicorn at the moment. Is that correct?
/r/askTRP18/05/15 12:28 AM
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The goal is terrible because you are basically saying "I'm going to change my entire life, become a much better person, and spend years becoming very sexually attractive [up to here, it's fine] so I can get with a woman who has ridden the CC hard, is already taken, and is financially incompetent, and also I'm unlikely to see her again If you can't see why this is terrible, you need to sit down and reconsider just how high you've placed this woman on a pedestal, because either you massively overv…
/r/askTRP18/05/15 12:04 AM
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This is the right answer. OP has the right idea of what steps to take, but his goal is terrible. On the plus side, by the time he's experienced what it's like as an alpha he will move on from his oneitis. Also, if you ever think you've found a female version of yourself, think about whether they also have all your negative traits. If not, that means you're simply seeing what you want to see and odds are she's not anywhere near as alike as you think.
/r/askTRP17/05/15 11:46 PM
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Read all of TRP, decide which parts you want to use (if you want plates, ltr, kids) Improve yourself (lift, good fashion, etc.) Enjoy life now you know more about how to get what you want out of it.
/r/askTRP17/05/15 11:43 PM
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This is the main problem with public perception of gay/trans/whatever people - you only notice the ones who are in your face about it, and they tend to be the more assholish members of that group.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/15 01:58 PM
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That's because at this point I am
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 08:07 PM
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Explain to me how non-exclusive and casual aren't the same thing That's exactly what I just did. I'm going to assume you are simply arguing in bad faith and trying to waste my time, since the alternative is that you're just stupid. in TRP terms a plate [...] This is wrong. Another example to support my earlier point of view. You seem to be trying to shift the goal posts here. ...what goal posts? Maybe you should look things up (like 'plate', 'shifting the goal posts' and 'reading') before you pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:30 PM
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Seems you took my advice! Well done, this is indeed a fair bit better :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 05:36 PM
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You seem to be deliberately misunderstanding me. Non-exclusive does not necessarily mean casual. Some relationships are casual. These might be exclusive, or not. Other relationships are not casual. These, again, might be exclusive or might not be. There are plenty of historical examples of polygamy where a man could have multiple wives. That's non-exclusive, but also serious. I hope this helps you understand that plates are not always casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 05:30 PM
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This is slightly tricky. There aren't any points where TroopCaptain says "I am angry" or anything along those lines, but it comes across that way (to me, at least). The post, for reference: With a huge emphasis on ONs. Either way, you guys don't care what women have to say. Woman X could list y qualities she wants in a man but if she sleeps with you then you automatically think she's lying. What you don't realize is that a) she's listing qualities she wants in a long term partner, b) hooks ups a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 05:25 PM
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it's disrespectful, condescending, and rude I often get told I'm condescending. That means I talk down to people. Jokes aside, the Internet is not a very nice place. Lots of people are offensive, all the time. anyone would get frustrated with having to constantly defend themselves against that What do you mean by 'defend themselves'? My original post said nothing except that the comment I replied to had made a factual error. If someone gets so upset over a rather mild approach by a Red Piller, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 04:52 PM
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Which are casual hookups No, they're not. A plate is slang for a woman you are in a non-exclusive relationship with. It has nothing to do with a one-night stand, or a booty call, or anything. You'd have to be pretty stupid to plate someone who's a massive bitch, even if she's hot. It's not just about appearances. What are you going on about? You came across as very angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 04:49 PM
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Any chance you could rephrase that? Pretend I'm 5 years old, and you want to explain it to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:49 PM
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With a huge emphasis on ONs. Actually, the emphasis is usually on plates. Maybe you should actually look at TRP before you decide what you think about it? Also, just because YOU think "ONs are superficial as hell", that doesn't mean everyone agrees. Lastly, why are you so angry? I've said literally nothing to you other than that TRP isn't all about hookups, and you are acting like I've personally offended you. I mean this in the best possible way, but if you are getting really worked up maybe yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:47 PM
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Or maybe, just maybe, I don't spend all my time trying to insult people in the most offensive way I can think of, and don't hang around or talk to those who do? Speaking of that last part, I'm done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:44 PM
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Ok? I still don't understand. Is it an American phrase? I'm from the UK and this is Greek to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:42 PM
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TRP is all about hookups This isn't true. There is a lot of discussion about LTRs, plates, ONSes and even marriage (although this is generally not recommended). There is more of an emphasis on building initial attraction, but that's because initial attraction is required both for hookups and longer-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:31 PM
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It is not unheard of It's the first I've ever heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:26 PM
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This is false. Beta traits are provider traits, while alpha traits are leader traits. 'Fully alpha' people, like Dark Triad men, are not something you should want to emulate. Some beta behaviour is good, it's just that normally no-one has trouble with being too beta. Nowadays, beta traits are undervalued because women work and thus don't need a man to feed/shelter/etc. them. Alpha traits are much more valuable. But beta traits aren't inherently bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:16 PM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Maybe you replied to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:12 PM
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So what you're saying is, women looking for relationships (i.e. BB) prefer someone who has a lower SMV? Shocking!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:07 PM
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There's nothing on TRP about the revolution coming. There's some TRPers who think that there's an inevitable decline because there are some similarities between modern society and Rome just before it fell, but they're a minority and aren't really taken seriously by everyone else. And eeeviiil is a joke about how we're often the top comment in a "What's the worst/most horrible sub on reddit" thread. Seriously, apparently we're worse than subs like beautifulabortions and cutefemalecorpses. That so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 11:44 AM
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approximately 33% more females than males on Earth? This is bullshit. The ratio is roughly 50-50. There are slightly more women than men because women live to be older, but it's nowhere near a 3/7ths and 4/7ths situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 10:36 AM
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I'm not diagnosed with anything, I was just generally a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 09:29 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I am one of the TRP losers. That's why I'm so confident that it works. I had zero social skills and was generally kinda pathetic - one of the stereotypical STEM nerds who know nothing about interacting with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:51 AM
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acting like a douche will only get you the worst type of women To be blunt, TRP is for losers. Losers who have no success with women can go there for one final throw of the dice. These are people who are having no success whatsoever with women. Telling them "this only lets you get sluts and bitches" isn't going to put them off too hard, since it's still an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:59 AM
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Leaving aside the arguments that most BP would disagree with anyway (oxytocin etc.) there is one main point. For a woman, there will always be one person who is the most alpha she's ever had. The highest value man she's ever been with. Unless that man is you, she's going to be what TRP calls an 'alpha widow', where she's always, in the back of her mind, got the thought that "I can get someone better than this guy, because I have had one in the past" - even if it's no longer true, because she's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:51 AM
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"She is giving you sex to stay with her because SHE IS REPLACEABLE,'' which is true and I hope more men realise this. I don't think this is a bad thing to do, I've done things like this before, and the women in these dread game scenarios are very much aware of what is going on. They have no problems giving out sex and intimacy, why not take it? Why is this worse? Surely, if you have no problem with the thing you quoted, this is fine too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:43 AM
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the goal of trp is also to increase their numbers No, that happens automatically as a side effect of the many, many posts on askreddit or wherever talking about how very eeeviiil we are. People on TRP focus firstly and primarily on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:39 AM
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Nature vs Nurture is another example of TRP theories. We assume there's a heck of a lot more Nature than is PC to admit, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. We deal with the world as it is, and it doesn't really matter whether Nature or Nurture set that world up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:51 AM
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Thanks! Would you be more inclined to agree if I were to rephrase the outputs as probabilities - that is to say, there is always some variance, and the aim is to skew the odds in your own favour as much as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:01 AM
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Glancing over the page, it seems to be mostly quite simple stuff like getting people to agree to requests by making other requests first (it's quite interesting, because if you ask someone for £20 and they refuse, if you then ask for £2 they are much more likely to say yes than if you straight up ask for £2, BUT if you ask someone for something minor like directions, and then for £2, you are also more likely to get the money, and lastly if you give someone a gift of £5 they are more likely to fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:57 AM
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Ah ok. I was just confused that people from outside the two 'parent' subs, so to speak, were participating in the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:31 AM
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Here. It's actually more focused on discussing a particular paper than I remembered, but it's still really interesting. edit: changed link to non-participation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:28 AM
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Fair enough, as long as you know at least a bit about BP/RP From the sidebar: Purple Pill Debate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:26 AM
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You seem quite smart and reasonable... for a dirty blue-piller :P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:22 AM
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The box is a metaphor for the world, and the buttons are ways to interact with the world. I see what you mean though. But did this post help you understand my position better?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:21 AM
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It works and therefore it's true. It's not even that complicated. I'd just say "It works". Doesn't matter if the whole sub and all its contents is completely wrong about everything, as long as acting as though it's true is a good strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:20 AM
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There was a post on TRP a while back referring to this site and recommending for everyone interested in psychology to read them. There was also a fair bit of discussion in the post & comments discussing some of the contents.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:18 AM
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i don't read either RP or BP No offense, but what are you even doing here then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:16 AM
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Ah ok, I must have misunderstood what you were trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:16 AM
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non-RP methods do work for many (probably most) people. TRP thinks that RP strategies tend to be better, on average. As it is a strategy sub, if it turned out that being BP is better for certain goals, then that would be what TRP would recommend. Basically, if RPers didn't think TRP was the best strategy available, they would stop using TRP and use the best available strategy instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:46 PM
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Yeah, but these are both claims I've heard used in the past which state that the experience someone has had is not what they are saying. You're basically shifting the goalposts as the argument continues, although to be fair, I doubt you notice you're doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:44 PM
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People try to argue that TRP doesn't work all the time. When people talk about TRP outside of PPD, it's always considered to not work. In PPD it's sometimes considered to not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:43 PM
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If I say My previous experiences were <this>, my current experiences are <that> [and <that> is better than <this>] and someone else says You're wrong, your current experiences aren't <that> or You're wrong, your current experiences are worse than your past experiences. Then those are definitely claims that you experienced something other than what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:08 PM
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the people that will doubt FRs and such A rather large number of BPers doubt them. The examples were things that I remember being said in response to people's personal experiences, although it's a while back and I can't remember where exactly it was said. Basically, there were a few people with several upvotes each who basically said TRP (the methodology) was either a placebo or a substandard strategy that's strictly inferior to 'the proper way' to have relationships. You must have seen these so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:53 PM
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right, which are issues with how well it works Except you're attacking the wrong part of TRP. If I were to (hypothetically) try to convince someone that their relationships hadn't improved, I wouldn't do it by attacking their experiences like that. I mean, if a stranger over the Internet tells you that although you personally performed action A and got result B, the real result you got was C, you'd probably just think they were stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:42 PM
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We can guess at why it works, and those guesses are useful. I'm trying to get across that Blue Pillers often try to argue against the wrong parts of TRP for the points they are trying to make. If they argue that TRP doesn't work on 'high-quality' or whatever women, and they attack TRP theories, they've got it the wrong way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:05 PM
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There are different BP attitudes to RP results that range from "You only think it's because of TRP, it's actually just that you expect results so you think things are better now" to "Well, BP relationships are better". The theories aren't minor or irrelevant because they've been around a while. New theories crop up occasionally and most are swiftly debunked. My point is that the theories flow from the experiences, and so trying to disprove the theories is basically like saying "I don't think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:02 PM
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Actually, alpha is 'leadership' and beta is 'provider'. Think hunter vs. farmer for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:35 PM
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If you call a skinny guy fat, he won't care. If you call a handsome guy ugly, he won't care. Insults only really work if they hit someone's insecurities. Deep down, fat people know they are being judged on their weight and found wanting every single day.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/15 09:31 PM
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Sexism has a negative connotation to it My point exactly! The title should not be "Why is sexism bad?", it should be "Is sexism inherently bad? Why?" By definition, sexism is: attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of gender roles. discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex or gender, as in restricted job opportunities, especially such discrimination directed against women. ingrained and institutionalized prejudice against or hatred of women; misogyny. Point 2 and 3 ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:08 PM
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Welcome to /r/PurplePillDebate, where the people are stupid and pedantic rather than engaging with each other and the points don't matter :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:02 PM
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There's a key distinction between proof and evidence. Proof means that a certain theory must be correct, while evidence simply makes it more correct. There's no proof at all in the social sciences, but there's plenty of evidence. It's just a lot easier to distort and manipulate than 'hard' sciences, which is why TRP disagrees with some studies - and, to be honest, some of the studies I've seen, even I could rig more convincingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 08:55 PM
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So for example, if I were to follow the common trope of having chocolate on hand for women I suspected were menstruating, that would be sexist (in a good way)? And do you disagree with anything else in my post, or just the example?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 08:50 PM
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The entire point of marriage is that you have sexual exclusivity. That implies that you're actually having sex. If you're not having sex, why are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:46 PM
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I said some people see the right to vote as something you earn by being willing to fight/kill/die for your country They might also think (and I agree with this) that a draft on women would be a godawful idea, since the average woman is physically weaker than the average man to a great enough extent that they would, as a group, tend to make poorer soldiers (and before you link me a news story about 'Brave Kurdish Women Fight ISIS, there are way more Kurdish men fighting - it's just that that does…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:34 PM
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Whoa there, calm down! I'm not saying it's women's fault, I'm not saying I want a female draft, I'm not saying women shouldn't vote. I'm just reporting on what others have said. I don't even live in the US. I think the draft in general is a bad idea, and that men shouldn't have to sign up in order to vote. You're going after a straw man there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:05 PM
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If it makes you feel better, a bit reason you're downvoted this hard is because of a brigade from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:38 AM
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Sexism isn't inherently bad. If I assume a woman might need tampons, so I have some available in case my friend/SO might need them, that's sexist because I'm making an assumption based on gender. I think we can all agree this is, however, reasonable and kind. The problem is that sexism is too broad a term. It is clearly both sexist and bad to, for example, ban women from STEM. However, it's also sexist to say "In my experience, women don't want to do STEM as much as men, so if there are more men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:02 AM
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Yes, women should vote. The reason some Red Pillers disagree, though, is because women don't have to sign up for the draft to vote (in the US - I live in the UK, so it's a moot point). Basically, they see the right to vote as something you earn by being willing to fight/kill/die for your country, as far as I can tell. I might disagree with this position, but I can understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:56 AM
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what a lot of points :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 09:02 PM
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You: the solution to that is <snip> not taking away the right to vote from half the country's population Me: I disagree that this means women shouldn't be allowed to vote You're preaching to the choir here, mate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 09:02 PM
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Thanks! I've finally gotten the motivation to figure out how to ignore people on RES. You can reply if you want, I won't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 07:40 PM
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You must sprinkle the tears of a unicorn over his brow as he writhes in torment, before the horns sprout from his forehead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:54 PM
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What I've said so far: Women get money from the men after divorce and Women get often get more than half of the assets/cash from a divorce, and child support on top. What you apparently think I've said: Women should never get child support. Kids should be thrown out of the house onto the street. and Women are as/more likely to get alimony now than in the past, and if this is not true then my narrative falls apart. This is why I don't take you seriously. Whether you're doing this intentionally or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:35 PM
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shouldn't be allowed to vote I personally disagree with this opinion, especially because I'm British, but I can understand where they're coming from in the US. As I understand it, for a man to vote, he has to sign up for the draft and basically say "I'm willing to fight/die for this country". A woman doesn't. Again, I disagree that this means women shouldn't be allowed to vote, but there is some reasoning behind it beyond "We hate women".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:30 PM
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I have you tagged from a while back as 'probably troll, maybe stupid'. I see no reason to change that. You asked me how women get money after divorce, I told you, and you straw man me to this extent? I'm done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:29 PM
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Yeah, but she still gets child support, and often the house. When the assets are split the primary caregiver usually ends up with >50%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 12:28 PM
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how does that work? ...she gets money from the guy she divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:27 AM
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Society collectively decides what is right and wrong, and makes laws about it. Rape is illegal, and the vast majority of people think it is wrong. Therefore it is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:10 AM
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That said, we do strongly advise against marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:05 AM
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For a real-world example, companies use tax loopholes that are technically legal but widely frowned upon by the public. I assume that's the sort of thing you mean, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 11:03 AM
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Actually, the original chivalry was a code of conduct for knights and focused more on what length lance was permissible in a joust than how to treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:58 AM
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The numbers are right, it's just that they don't mean anything. Women work less than men and men are much more likely to die in the workplace. Men are more likely to work high-paying fields like STEM instead of childcare. There's more to it, but that's the core of the matter
/r/TheRedPill30/04/15 10:54 AM
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Well, I would say that discussing rape is amoral. Rape victims who go to the police and talk about it, or charities trying to decrease rape levels and discussing the best way to go about it, are not immoral. Rapists who are comparing the best methods to rape people are immoral. That's because rape is bad and illegal. I'm sure in some other times and cultures it would not be considered as bad, though, which brings me to my next point. Morality is subjective. Hundreds of years ago, stoning adulter…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:05 AM
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how would you describe jihadis Could I just say how flattered I am that you consider me as dangerous as a terrorist? I don't have the intention to hurt anyone, including myself. You will almost certainly either disagree, or tell me that TRP means I will hurt people anyway. I'm gonna assume it's the 2nd, since if it's the 1st case there is no point discussing things any further. So, if we operate under the assumption TRP is correct in what it states, then there should be no problem with hurting p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:47 PM
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an open question As opposed to the clear answer you were drawing earlier. I'm delivering what I've learned Fair enough. My own experiences have probably been very different from yours, then. what is the point in wasting time arguing over ancient sexual dynamics? see it's basically intellectual masturbation masturbation can be very fun, especially intellectual masturbation, as long as you don't get carried away. You don't have anything besides what you've seen and what you've read in TRP to suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:47 PM
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We tend to assume we're basically like chimps, which exhibit the social hierarchy you talk about (alpha, beta, mate selection), but in reality a lot more of our behavior, even today, is more like the bonobo and the evidence points more toward women wanting to have sex with anyone [citation needed] Today, as in right now all around me in the city I'm in, it's mostly women doing the selecting. While I find theorycrafting about why to be interesting, it's basically intellectual masturbation. The im…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:16 PM
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Great example. Honestly, single motherhood is always a sign that the parents fucked up. Both parents. However, there's a modern narrative of 'single mothers are awesome' and 'the dads who finance it with alimony/child support are scum'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:14 PM
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It's bullshit because the main factor in selection is women. You could have a fat, lazy lump of a man <snip>. If he has sex... Emphasis mine. Women decide who has sex (apart from rape), and that will usually be the person with the best genes, who will tend to be the at the local maximum, which is often labelled 'alpha'. Now we move forward to the start of farming and civilisation. Pairing starts to happen, and women need someone who can provide for them while they are pregnant/nursing. Provider …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:09 PM
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The mean n-count of (straight) men and women must by definition be identical, whereas this is not necessarily the case for the median, so there is a major difference. Basically, every time a man sleeps with a new woman, a woman sleeps with a new man. So the number of partners of all women divided by the number of women is equal to that of men (assuming equal numbers of men and women). Therefore the mean is always the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 12:02 PM
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I assume you mean the median n-count, not mean n-count (which must, by definition, be the same for straight men and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:48 AM
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very pit of their black, shriveled hearts. I feel strangely flattered by this comment. Not sure why though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:36 AM
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convince a woman to stay with you The probably most common/preferred strategy is plates, where you don't care about whether they stick around because you can always get more. Abundance mentality is also core, and that means not convincing a particular woman to stay with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:35 AM
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It may not care, but not caring does not make it amoral. Is a sword or gun moral? Are instructions for making a bomb moral? How about a guide to enriching nuclear materials? TRP is inherently a set of strategies for taking certain actions in order to get certain rewards. The way they are applied is moral, but there is no morality in simply knowing two hypocritical strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:22 AM
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Who do you think slutshames the most: men or women? "Both"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:16 AM
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1) Women look for attractive men to spread genes. This could be false, since the anatomy of the vagina selects for stronger sperm, and this may have nothing to do with the man who made it. This specific point is clearly bullshit. Women decide what sperm goes in the vagina. Women look for attractive men, and what they find attractive is determined by evolution as what is evolutionarily successful. Women therefore look for healthy, physically capable men. They also look for successful men. Vaginas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:01 AM
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For most men to be a slut there is a consequent amount of work to be done whereas a women can become a slut with a quarter of that work. Exactly. There are fat, ugly, boring sluts. There are no fat, ugly, boring studs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:55 AM
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What's a question you've had dodged a lot by RPers? I'm happy to take a crack at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:48 AM
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You don't need to look like a model to be considered healthy. That's 100% true. But here's the thing: most people with an average healthy weight don't look like models. That argument is a form of reducto ad absurdum. People who fat acceptance applies to aren't healthy, and are in no danger of being mistaken for models even if they drastically lose weight. Some people should be ashamed of their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:35 AM
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Even if... even if it were ok for fatties to say stuff to her about it, that doesn't invalidate her point that telling people who are clearly 100% obese and slowly killing themselves that they are too fat is much more frowned upon, even if the fatties start it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:31 AM
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It will, just not in public - they'll go home and sob into their tubs of ice cream while posting on tumblr. I imagine watching it happen is most of the fun though.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/15 06:16 AM
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Originally it was because of genuine oppression (wow, I never thought I'd ever use that phrase non-sarcastically). Women not being allowed jobs, the vote, etc. However, it's now changed from 'get rid of legal barriers' to 'enforce laws that give women equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity'. Somewhere along the road feminism became a complete shitshow in the Western world.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 11:28 PM
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I agree with most of this post, but I think people are downvoting you because you are conflating 'hates someone who is a woman' with 'hates someone because she is a woman'. Given that the entire OP is about this distinction, I can see why it pisses people off you're making the same mistake in the comments.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 11:25 PM
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This perfectly sums up in one sentence what I've been feeling about 'misogyny' for a while, but could never put into words. Misogynist nowadays means 'disagrees with a group' rather than 'hates a group'.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 11:21 PM
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The best way I've heard this put is that kids figure out by age 6 or so that boys vs girls isn't fair. Somehow, they forget it again later in life.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 06:49 PM
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I'd put BBC at centre-left at most, especially since, as the national broadcaster, they are supposed to be unbiased.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/15 03:24 AM
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Especially if it's a high SMV man. As far as I can tell, the logic goes as follows (not that I necessarily agree with it): Women tend to be more attracted to a specific type of person. Often, this type has a specific skin tone/hair colour/etc. This person effectively has bonus SMV for that woman. However, that is for AF. BB is often better if they have the same skin tone (as it fits better with social stuff, family, the image the woman tries to convey OR some skin tones tend to have more money, …
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 01:18 AM
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Oh, I wasn't aware it had started already in the US. Fair enough.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 07:54 PM
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It's less successful though, because there's already some nuclear power plants but no fracking yet (i.e. you can say 'We've had nuclear power for x years with no problems' but you can't say that about fracking). Also, it might be different where you live but here (in UK) there's more opposition to fracking
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 02:45 PM
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Not OP, but as I understand it he means that any quality women you leave will afterwards be damaged goods for men of their own culture/race/whatever you want to call it.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 02:37 PM
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There's still too much public opposition for fracking to be faster than nuclear power
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 02:36 PM
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Ah, in that case I'm sorry. But, and I don't mean this to be rude, you are kind of an outlier in that case, right? Like in the same way I wouldn't expect a random woman to be lesbian, transgender, or whatever, because it's statistically unlikely, it wouldn't be smart for people to avoid getting muscles just because there's a small proportion of the population who are Demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 01:47 PM
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I don't think that's a specific orientation. If you like men, you're straight, if you like women, you're a lesbian, and if you like both you're bi. If you want to get to know people before you get into relationships, that's nice, but it doesn't make you LGBTQJFASHBF.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 03:35 AM
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demisexual/demiromantic Just out of interest, is mayonnaise a gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 02:18 AM
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So if your SO or crush or whatever became just a little musclier, you'd find him less attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 12:33 AM
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I think a strong jawline is correlated with high Testosterone levels, which makes you more driven. You're right, but having a jutting jaw doesn't make you more driven, they are both caused by test. That said, if it helps you, keep doing it.
/r/askTRP16/04/15 07:55 PM
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"Women aren't worse than men." Say it with me. Women are different. Women have aspects that are horrible. Women can fuck you over, fuck up your whole life, and still blame you. Women can be the worst thing in your whole life. But they can also be the best. What you are feeling right now is natural - you've been fed lies your entire life about what women are like, and now you find out the reality is way below that. But in reality, women are like men. They don't act the same, talk the same, think …
/r/askTRP15/04/15 09:32 PM
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1) You'd probably know that better than me, if you have OCD. I just know from others what it's like. It's worth a shot at least. 2) Your family sounds pretty bad. I think the best thing to do would be to start insisting on respect from your mother and sister. When talking to your mother, stay stoic and point out when she's being ridiculous. Don't back down if you can avoid it (obviously if she threatens to throw you out, it's not worth it, but otherwise you need to show her that you won't back d…
/r/askTRP15/04/15 09:20 PM
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NAWALT isn't really used often, and when it is it's often drowned out by other people calling AWALT. AWALT is used only because too many men nowadays pedestalise women. It's known that men are shitty, but AWALT is used to reinforce that women are shitty too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 05:57 PM
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That's what AWALT means. All Women Are Like (negative trait/person) is a warning. Women can be just as shitty as men, and it's ALL women. If a woman seems like NAWALT, you just don't know her well enough. The specific 'That' that a woman is varies, but All Women Are Like That.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 05:22 PM
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tl;dr: Next her if you are in an exclusive relationship, plate her if not. Basically, if you are in a relationship, it doesn't sound like you are getting what you want. You should leave and look at other options, unless you don't think you can do better, in which case you should improve yourself first and then leave the relationship. You could possibly plate her at some point in the future, depending on how things go. If you are not in a relationship, look for other women as well. If you are get…
/r/askTRP15/04/15 04:42 PM
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It's less of an idea, more of an observation. For example, being muscular in and of itself is basically never a drawback, unless you look like a roided olympic weightlifter. When women start sleeping with the quiet, shy nerd, TRP will recommend that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:28 PM
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AWALT can be broken down into two ideas that don't seem so shocking. Women are people too. Don't expect women to be saints, they can be just as shitty as men, and sometimes more so. Don't judge a book by its cover. Women are complex, and just because the girl you are with seems like she'd be a great person to spend the rest of your life with, you need to spend more time with her to find out what she's like after a few years before you do something drastic like legally binding yourself to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:25 PM
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We don't love in the same sense as the term is used nowadays (Romantic movies or 'Disney' love). Love is a deeper, stronger relationship bond between two people, and it can be steered/controlled to some degree.
/r/askTRP15/04/15 12:20 PM
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1) You can't easily get rid of someone else's OCD if it's a genuine case, but if it's some moron who's like "I like things being ordered, so I must have OCD" rather than "I have to wash my hands exactly 4 times before eating, sleeping or leaving the house" then you should be able to. 2) I'd need more information about your age, work/education, longterm goals etc. but I can advise you to always remember that your mother is a person too, and if she's a single mother she probably majorly fucked up …
/r/askTRP15/04/15 12:18 PM
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That's a not that uncommon mistake, but you can't force others to take the Red Pill, you have to wait until they're ready for it. For damage control, just start acting like you are still blue pill (this doesn't necessarily mean beta though). Throw out some lines like "The most important thing is still communication", and "None of this matters if you find the right woman". Consider reading the 48 Laws of Power, or specifically "Think as you like, but act like others". What you did was kind, but s…
/r/askTRP15/04/15 12:09 PM
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There's always a point of reference, but as a vegetarian I honestly have no clue what meat tastes like, and I've heard a huge number of different descriptions for the exact same food. I can't know what it's like without trying it myself. Books are a good way to experience things outside your frame of reference, but they are also not perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 11:37 AM
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I think that (what I consider) empathy requires at least some understanding of what the other person has experienced. Just like I can't imagine a new colour, I can't imagine what a situation is like that I don't have a point of reference for. Some things are universal, but in the same way I don't understand what someone would need to feel that they'd want to have their physical gender changed, since I've never had anything even resembling that experience, and I don't know what it feels like to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:23 AM
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There we go! Proof that men are more capable than women! (I'm joking, but I think it's pretty funny)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:41 PM
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I think he means for gender-specific stuff. Obviously if a woman gets into a car accident/loses her job/anything else that's not related to gender it's possible to empathise, but I can't empathise with a woman what it's like to be a woman rather than a person - i.e. it's the gender aspect that's closed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:35 PM
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Maybe bi/lesbian women? Since they have the shared experience of dealing with women, there is the opportunity for some partial empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:33 PM
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I've seen both men and women act childish, and I've seen men and women act responsible. So have I. It might just be that in my particular situation, I make different observations to you (I'm still at university, and it doesn't sound like you are - plus, I don't even know what country you're in). I personally find that women - especially attractive women - act more childish than men in general, and me in particular. And I don't really mind. See my earlier post as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:56 PM
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I personally would prefer a partner who acts more childish than me, because I have trouble being childish naturally. In a situation where I am the more mature person, it's to be expected that I have to play more of a parent role (not in a creepy/incest way, but basically more responsible). On an unrelated note, I think that nowadays women tend to be coddled more than men do, and treated in a more childish manner by society, which they respond to by acting more childish. So I'd probably end up be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:44 PM
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Red Pill is like in the matrix when people are unplugged - so it means people who know about what TRP calls the 'sexual marketplace' and its rules. People who are Red Pill tend to try to become alpha, but some decide to simply opt out. These are called Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW for short) and the attitude on TRP towards them varies a lot. Some people are naturally more alpha, and TRP has mostly strategies for betas to try to become alpha. I hope this helps you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:40 PM
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I think I'd enjoy a relationship less if I couldn't treat the other person in a way that amounts to 'carefree, ignoring responsibilities for a moment'. I think you are focusing too much on the negative connotations of 'treating someone/acting like a child'. I doubt you've read it, but there is a link in the TRP sidebar to 'The Book of Pook', and one of the things he recommends is acting like a child yourself - playing and running around rather than sitting and talking. Us TRPers aren't being hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:50 PM
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Alpha and beta are descriptions of characteristics. Alpha tends to imply leadership, and beta tends to imply provider. An alpha person would be a person with a lot of alpha/leadership qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:40 PM
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Humour is mostly funny when it somehow subverts your expectations or introduces something in a new or unusual way. If you were to read 10 dark jokes, you might find them all funny. If you read 1000, it gets pretty boring. An entire sub with essentially the same content over and over, especially if it's just sarcasm rather than something more creative, doesn't sound like it'll be funny for long (just my personal opinion - I've never really looked at more than one or two posts on there).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:33 PM
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I don't want someone to do taxes and discuss postmodern art with. I want someone to have fun with, to enjoy being around, and who enjoys being around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:24 PM
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The problem is that it's hard to define 'centre'. Are you looking at it globally, only in the Western world, or only in your own country? What time period? The last year, the last 5 years, the last 20 years? Most of TRP doesn't bother with any of this, and just looks at what works and why we think it works. Regardless of what political leaning it has, how offensive it is, or any other smokescreen, I'm only interested in what works. As soon as politics get involved, people end up taking sides ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:09 PM
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Then you should continue acting as if Santa Claus exists :^)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 08:31 PM
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I'm not OP. I was trying to help you understand what OP was saying, but it seems we've hit an impasse. Clearly you don't feel me :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 10:23 PM
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is like Now, I'm not sure if you've had any secondary education, but this phrase indicates a simile. He is comparing two similar situations, in the context of the rest of his post. /snark I agree with him that acting as if a certain fact (in this case, TRP theory) were true, if acting in this way is beneficial, should be continued regardless of whether you know if it's true or not. You feel me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:55 PM
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how TRP must be true Maybe you should re-read it. He's talking about how he doesn't care whether TRP's theories can be proved/disproved because acting as if they were true is beneficial to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:45 PM
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This is my main problem with flairs. Throughout the whole exchange, you've been logical, sensible and reasonable while the person with the same flair colour as me is being unreasonable and generally a bit stupid, yet I find myself trying to convince myself he has good points just because he's 'on my side'. Well done for a well-argued point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:40 AM
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TRP is, at its core, "What is an effective method for guys who have trouble getting laid to stop having that trouble." Other stuff goes on too, as happens in any community, but as the sidebar says, it's at its core a sexual strategy sub. Sexual strategy is, however, diverse enough that posts like 'live your life like this' can fall under the umbrella, as long as it's useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:35 AM
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Yeah, and I agree with a fair amount of the 'normal' feminist stuff, but when all the lobbying and influence from a movement comes from the fringe, then the movement effectively becomes the fringe and fringe feminism is fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:16 AM
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From what? You still aren't saying anything coherent. If your next reply isn't something I can reply to without asking about what you're trying to say, I'm going to just assume you are either a troll and/or handicapped in some other way to the point that it's a waste of time talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:03 AM
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why do you support ISIS? Free cookies once a month, and I look good in black
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:44 AM
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No offense, but that sounds like useless platitudes. There's no useful information in your comment other than 'learn from others around you'. You might not be a native speaker, in which case I can understand, but I have difficulty understanding what idea you are trying to transfer to me with the opening of you response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:37 AM
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Are you a troll? Do you know anything at all about TRP, if you don't know what 'alpha' is shorthand for? You're coming across as at least slightly socially retarded, and are using a blatant straw man argument. To answer your question, alpha = 'person with a majority of alpha traits'. And it depends on your definition of 'kind'. The 'Nice Guy' type of kind makes you a 'person with a majority of beta traits' (beta as an abbreviation), but there are other types of kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:32 AM
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Smart people learn from their mistakes, geniuses learn from other people's mistakes I can't remember where I heard this quote, but it's important to realise that if you do nothing but make mistakes you still won't live long enough to become even mediocre at a range of different topics, only one of which is relationships. If your advice is 'Try stuff, if it doesn't work, try again' that's (almost) the worst advice possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 12:26 AM
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facts make you a chauvinist The worst argument I've had in the last year was over whether people should be allowed to public say any true statement. It went from the woman I was talking to saying 'Of course, censorship is bad and censorship of the truth is worse!' to 'You can't say that women commit most child killings! That's misogyny!' in about 5 seconds
/r/TheRedPill05/04/15 09:34 PM
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We're looking specifically at argument techniques. As you would know if you'd read the link in the sidebar.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/15 09:28 PM
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Trust has to be earned. You can almost always trust someone to act in (what they think is) their best interest, but that's about it. Remember that the other person in the relationship is just that - another person - and that there are some situations where they will lie to you, so don't depend on them telling the truth. There's an old saying, "Trust but verify".
/r/TheRedPill03/04/15 08:24 PM
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See, the thing is, I think you're smart and you make good decisions based on your beliefs. The problem is that 'feminism' as an umbrella term has too few people like you, and too many people who push through stuff like the newest rape definition. If we look at what feminism says it is, that's great! I support what feminism claims to be. What it is in practice, however, is very different. It's like the old joke - in theory there's no difference between practice and theory, in practice there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 10:55 PM
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Well, if it does, that would be nice. I think the older forms of feminism were great and necessary, but the more 'modern' approach in the west is completely ass-backwards - things like passing laws to require 40% of executives to be women is a moronic thing to do. On the other hand, some MRA ideas are fucking retarded too. But on the whole, there's a lot both sides could achieve for equality if they worked together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 09:14 PM
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Cleavage is quite commonly seen nowadays, but it's still exciting to see a hot girl with a nice rack and a deep V-neck T-shirt. Some things just don't change, and seeing more of someone (i.e they are closer to naked, and thus sex) will continue to be arousing for people unless we are all naked all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 09:10 PM
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putting them under one label means you must accept or reject the whole thing. That makes it too cultish. Posts like this are why I don't see TRP as a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 09:03 PM
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Feminism on the other hand does address men's issues such as rape, domestic violence, and the like. Feminism's addressing of rape as a men's issue has led to being 'made to penetrate' someone else not count as rape, while a host of what I'd see as lesser forms of sexual assault do, so I don't really think you have any ground to stand on there. Domestic violence has been discussed a fair bit already, so I'll just point you to some earlier posts in this thread. Edit: changed the link to np.reddit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:58 PM
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If you can't get one movement to do all of it, why not have several, where each can do a different part? I'm saying we shouldn't say 'It can't be done, so let's pack it in and just go with Feminism'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:54 PM
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The main issue is that 'misogyny' is not something that is discussed on the Red Pill, and I'm going to explain why. Imagine I, a Christian, am trying to convert you, an atheist (bear with me, this gets relevant later on). Here's what I say to convince you: "Believing in God has made me happier" "I met my wife at Church - without my religion, I wouldn't have found love" "Religious people are more likely to live longer" (no idea if this is true, but I can think of some possible causes - like Musli…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:52 PM
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a lot of intersectionality with race issues, LGBT issues More than men's issues. Can you see why men who look at actions, not words, might think that feminism isn't really something they want to support?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:30 PM
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I feel it's important to criticize bad ideas and put over good ideas, no matter who it's from. In that case, you can surely name some good ideas that are from MRAs and bad ideas that are from feminists? Unless, of course, your definition of 'good/bad' is 'does it agree with feminism'?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:28 PM
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Who would make sure that it all happens equally? Well, feminism isn't doing it, so trying other methods might be worth a shot, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 08:16 PM
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Isn't she the incestuous paedophile rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 04:28 PM
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Yeah, obviously once you know you really don't want kids, it's a good idea to just get it done. But if you're not sure, or you haven't had it done yet, that's when you should pretend for a bit.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 09:36 PM
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If anyone ever tells you she's pregnant and you're the father, claim to have a vasectomy for a few minutes. If she spills the beans about fucking someone else, or otherwise reacts guiltily, you know it might not be yours, and also that she's cheating and the last thing you want to do is tie yourself to her for 18 years.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 08:35 PM
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Having a younger woman is a status symbol, but some blue pillers don't understand that, and older women hamster it away because they don't like it. Younger women are perfectly fine with it - basically, it increases their SMV and that's what they really want.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 01:45 AM
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Hot girls simply don't have any reason to practice being funny. A group of guys will almost certainly tell jokes and mess around, but with women (especially attractive ones) there's a lot less of the necessary camaraderie, so all they do is make snide comments and bitch around.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 01:38 AM
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Yeah, but that's an extension of an earlier individual benefit (i.e. there is a common ancestor, so those who gain the benefit and those who give the benefit share similar genes). The way I mean it is that there is no incentive for women to help men they're no longer attracted to, since they don't share genes.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 02:12 AM
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There's no tone policing on this sub. What something 'sounds' like isn't important, the only thing that matters is what is written.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 04:53 AM
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That's the way evolution works. In each generation, the women who selfishly maximised passed that trait on (whether biologically or culturally is irrelevant), and each generation, some women with non-selfish parents joined them. Evolution selects for individual benefit, not group benefit
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 01:30 AM
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Wasn't there even one where a 14-year-old boy got raped, and when he was an adult he suddenly had to pay several years' worth of child support out of the blue?
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 01:32 AM
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That quote was the subject of the first real argument about politics I had with my parents. I still don't understand how anyone can believe that crap - if I were to say (as part of a political campaign) the primary victims of honour killings were the relatives who had lost a sister/daughter, can you imagine the shitstorm?
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 01:19 AM
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The UK is getting... interesting. We're quite feminised - I'm not sure if you remember the 'This is what a feminist looks like' T-shirts, but our Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition both wore them, and I think the Prime Minister did too - but there's an extremely rightwing guy who has a shot at getting some real power (Nigel Farage). While I don't agree with his politics, I doubt he's going to be very liberal or a feminist ally. Basically, after the general election in May, things…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 02:22 AM
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Even 4chan has limits. I notice that the only thing that made the rounds was the OP, which seems to nicely suit the HAES agenda, right?
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 02:15 AM
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Yeah, I have. That doesn't change the fact that there are way more movies, articles, books, TV shows, radio shows and songs about female sexuality being good than there are about male sexuality being good or female sexuality being bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:21 PM
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Source for domestic abuse, I don't have links for the other stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 11:29 PM
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I don't think society was ever encouraging with sexuality. Except modern female sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 11:27 PM
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I disagree about the idea that your social life = Women attracted to you There's a correlation between social life and success with women, because a good social life is a sign that you are good with interpersonal relationships. That said, increasing your SMV will generally improve others' outlook on you. The bottom 40% isn't that bad compared to the bottom 20%. There is a large improvement in both other peoples' reactions to you and what women you have a shot with - you might go from 2's and 3's…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 05:37 PM
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I know how stats work, but it is the case that the majority of motorbike riders will not experience a crash that decreases their life length while riding their bike. Also, there are valid reasons to ride motorcycles, or drive cars, or do any one of a million other slightly risky things. There is no reason to be fat. You don't gain anything - you are not better off. There is an almost-guaranteed shorter lifespan awaiting you. More money will be spent on you, to keep you alive so you can eat yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 07:41 AM
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Suppose we were to gather results from every person in London. If people tended to prefer their own gender, then that's good and most people are happy. If people tended to prefer the other gender, then that's probably a 'grass is always greener' effect. If people all preferred being male, we'd conclude men have it better as a rule. Likewise for women. Not everything has to be numerically measurable to be statistically investigated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:46 AM
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I used to be, before TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:25 AM
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You are correct in that there is no rigorously defined metric, but the way I'd put it is: if you could swap male and female gender roles, would you want to? As in, do you think life would be preferable for you if you could have the opposite gender's gender role?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:20 AM
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By definition, one gender will have it harder. That said, I agree it's kinda stupid to argue about which gender has it hardest, since both have a bunch of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 12:39 AM
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Fair enough. I don't like the implications of that link, but it seems I have to adjust my beliefs to match reality. There is a minor link between race and heightened levels of aggression in certain situations. Still, the vast majority of differences between races is due to poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 12:36 AM
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Motorbikes have an element of risk. But being overweight is always unhealthy. There are no people where they are healthier when they are obese than when they are thin. They don't risk living for a shorter span, they guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 12:03 AM
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blacks are genetically more prone to impulsive behavior and violence It's to do with demographics. Black people tend to be poorer, and crime - especially violent crime - is more common amongst people with less money. Unless you can point me to some evidence that says black men (since, let's be honest, we're not talking about getting mugged/raped by a black woman here) have a statistically significant higher amount of some hormones in their blood than white men in the same circumstances, I'm goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 11:51 PM
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I mostly agree, except for when taxpayer money gets spent to deal with the fallout of people being massively obese and having health problems (I'm British, so we have the NHS - I know in America it's different).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 11:06 PM
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What I usually use to shut people like that up: If I don't agree with the statistics, the theory, the conclusions or the members, then why do you think I'm part of the organisation?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:48 AM
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I'm going to be blunt - you've already wrote your bottom line, and nothing I say will convince you I'm not either a) completely mistaken or b) a monster. I see no reason to waste more time here, since I can't convince you and you can't convince me. I do want to honestly thank you for trying though. Your post is well thought out and detailed, and I appreciate people who put effort into refuting me as it lets me improve my ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 03:30 AM
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by that simplistic logic smoking is not unsafe. you agree with that? No, smoking is unsafe because there is a causal link. I can explain to you why smoking causes cancer, and why cancer kills you. Can you explain to me why plating causes substance abuse disorders? I can explain to you why the causal link goes the other way. If I have substance abuse problems, I am more likely to be a prostitute in order to get my fix. I am also less likely to have a stable relationship. Lifting is not the best e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:43 AM
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The 10% thing you are talking about is actually called the 80/20 rule, which says that 80% of women sleep with 20% of men, or to put it another way the top 20% of men each have ~16x as much sex as the bottom 80%, if we average it out. That doesn't mean that you must be in the top 20% of men or your life is over. Going up from bottom 20% to the middle will give you a huge boost in your social life. Also, 'being alpha' is shorthand for 'having alpha traits'. Having more alpha traits is generally g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:32 AM
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lots of partners So plating is better than ONSes, right? Except correlation is not causation, as any basic knowledge of science will tell you. And lifting is not better than other types of exercise, nor did I claim it to be, but it is better than no exercise and is also a relatively easy way to get started - just go to the gym, get someone to show you how to use the machines, and you can make it part of your daily routine. PS: Can I take your lack of argument with the rest of my post as an agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:30 AM
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saying that women get used up by having multiple past sexual partners is absurd. I have said nothing of the sort in this post. Please, if you're going to straw man, at least try a little. This is frankly embarrassing - it looks like you haven't even read my post at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:28 AM
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If I don't really like watching Eastenders (which is, as it happens, true) but my (theoretical) wife does, then I would watch it with her because I enjoy spending time with her (this is a prerequisite of me hypothetically marrying someone). If my wife doesn't really like anal, just because she thinks it's uncomfortable or unclean, then she would do it with me because she enjoys doing sexual stuff with me (this is a prerequisite of her becoming my wife). If you're girl absolutely refuses to consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:27 AM
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I'd give you 4/10 as a troll, mostly for persistance. That said, I'm going to honestly try to answer your query in a way you'll understand, even if you are a troll. What I'm going to do is talk briefly about each point you've made and try to help you understand what you are actually talking about - it seems like your understanding of TRP comes mostly from PPD or BP, rather than you visiting the parent sub. trp types who are obsessed with rank (alphaness) 'Alphaness' is not a thing on TRP. Behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:14 AM
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There are also 'plenty of' men who are furries/necrophiliacs/murderers etc. Just because there are plenty of people who fill a certain role doesn't mean it's common, or even something you can expect to happen to you. (Note: I'm not comparing men who don't care about 'the number' to furries etc, I'm just using furries as an example of a sizable demographic) I would say that (at a bare minimum) more than 50% of men care about the number of the woman they want to have kids with. Using some basic ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:50 AM
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Example: Look at what this 'top endorsed' idjit has to say about what women will do when you're rooly trooly 'alpha'[1] : Yeah, can you point out what part exactly is horrible for you? The guy is saying his partner tried something out she didn't really like, but because it's with someone she likes she's started enjoying it. That sounds real abusive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:39 AM
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TRP thinks most men are shitty, and most women are shitty, but we don't harp on and on about men because we don't wanna put our dicks in them (for that, you'd need to look at /r/altTRP , where although I don't know what they post about I assume it's about men).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:37 AM
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I come here because I value the truth more than any ideology, and the only way to make your opinions and beliefs more true is to change them. I am Red Pill, but there are nuances within RP beliefs that I didn't fully appreciate until I had to defend them against Blue Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:36 AM
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we are both seen as less culpable... but also less competent Would you say that that is also how children are seen? Because that's the whole point of the TRP post you are complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:33 AM
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More importantly, initiating contact decreases the odds of her coming back, no matter what you send.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 03:44 AM
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Abundance mindset just means you have options, not necessarily that you're spinning plates right now. If random women flirt with you it feeds into abundance mentality and dread game. Basically, dread game is when you openly display abundance so that it directly affects your wife/plate/gf, and abundance mentality is where your own mindset changes but the abundance part is not seen directly by the people you impress with it.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 03:33 AM
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she was actually pregnant when this picture was taken. That's the first time I've heard that, although I've seen the picture spread across the Internet. This shit is gold, and I can't wait to watch hamsters spin the next time I see that picture.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 12:51 AM
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She's been married to him for 2 decades, and I don't think he's been a successful actor for that long. If he is happy with her, or he doesn't want to get financially fucked in a divorce, or he wants to stay together because they have 2 kids, or whatever reason, I can understand it. The thing that had me confused at first is why he'd marry her, but when he did he had way fewer options and she was much younger = better looking.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 12:48 AM
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Abundance and Dread are just two aspects of the same thing, as I understand it.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 06:08 PM
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That article doesn't even make me angry, it's way to obvious of a troll.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 01:32 PM
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I dunno, I think TBP specifically mocks TRP stuff that doesn't show up anywhere else. TRP covers a load of stuff, and a lot of it's been said before, but there is often conflicting advice ("work out and get fit" vs "just be yourself/look for women who like you for yourself", for example), and TRP comes down on one side of the divide. The 'blue pill' is mostly nebulous because it was never meant to be taken seriously by its creators. The name is a play on the name of their adversary sub, they onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 11:32 PM
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The man is innocent until proven guilty. In the case of purely "he said / she said," he would likely not be convicted. I wish this were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 11:26 PM
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No, it's that your 'appeal to our interests' was incorrect in that it was advice that doesn't work. And you haven't appealed to ethics, just backtracked on your earlier argument. Nowhere in this comment thread do you say anything like 'my way is morally better' or 'your way is ethically worse', just 'that [the point I made] is not actually why I think you should follow my advice'. You aren't being internally consistent, almost as if you have decided on a course of action based on some questionab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:05 PM
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No thank you. And I'm sure you think so - or at least the persona you are displaying on this account does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:59 PM
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Are you expecting a positive/lack of reaction? I seriously can't imagine a mindset where you think to yourself "This person's past behaviour follows a certain trend, but that's completely irrelevant to their future behaviour to the extent that even considering it is inherently bad." I've now come to the conclusion that you are most likely both a woman and promiscuous. That said, I don't particularly care, except that I hate seeing anything done sloppily, even trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:45 PM
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Then why? That's the only benefit you've specified so far. It's good that you treat people equally, but maybe if you treated everyone with respect from the beginning, your life would be better ? That's the point of my post. and then Well, it's a good thing that having a good life is not the main objective for treating people better. You seem to be contradicting yourself a lot. 3/10 for effort, 1/10 for content. Not even an interesting troll
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:38 PM
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You say that but a lot of people are capable of ignoring and blocking out things they know to be true, because they consider it 'virtuous' to believe other things, even though on some level they recognise they are deceiving themselves. Interesting read about belief-in-belief
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:37 PM
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Statistically, you are more likely to sleep with someone with +X the average number of partners than someone with -X. For an example, if there are ten men and ten women, and all the women sleep with the same man, then the mean number of partners will be 1 for the men and 1 for the women, but each woman will be at risk from STDs from every other woman.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 04:42 PM
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Yeah, I don't necessarily always blame white knights, but I do dislike them
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 01:58 PM
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Can you also post an update here (on TRP)?
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 02:59 AM
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While I agree with some of your post, I think socialism is more about removing agency from individuals to share risks and rewards. Some of the stuff they do is good (from the UK here and the NHS is one of the few parts of the country I'm proud of), but a lot is fucking terrible. Partially, socialism seems to deliver good results as a political system because more and more parts of society benefit from being centralised, due to an economy of scale (imagine if you had to hire a private rubbish col…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 12:23 AM
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It's possible to have an LTR where you know going in the 'long term' part is measured in months or years, not decades. Just work to keep it going as long as you want, and you should be able to tell when her attraction to you wanes, or you want to leave it yourself. At that point you leave again. You can have a different kind of relationship than with a plate or ONS, and in some ways it's easier and in others it's harder. Plus, if you want kids you should almost certainly get into an LTR so you c…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 12:06 AM
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Yeah, you might wanna try that one out yourself before you recommend it
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 11:56 PM
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Personally, I think it's important that we hold ourselves to higher standards than other ideologies where posting 'omg u guys 1/4 wimminz get r_ped every day' is enough to receive a standing ovation. Adding sources for statements, or asking for them if they aren't there, are how we avoid becoming an echo chamber as so many other ideas have done.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 02:43 AM
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Look up the Sokal Affair - it's a while back now, but basically a physicist showed just how flawed and biased a lot of the softer science journals are.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 02:38 AM
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Yeah, STEM is the way to go nowadays.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 02:08 AM
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Talk louder, then louder than that A lot of betas (past me included) learned to never be loud/attention-seeking, so when I first found TRP this was valuable advice. Basically talk loud enough that people can hear you clearly, even if they're a few steps away and there's some ambient noise. This was something I'd never really done before.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 03:05 PM
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If you want a non-gendered term for equality, you're probably after egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:03 PM
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It's a cop out, and load of baloney. Why? You disagree with my statement, but why? All the quote above says is that you disagree. On a national level, it results in discrimination in many layers of society. On a personal level, if you're in a position of influence your decision making will be influenced by how you think someone would act hypothetically based on unfounded stereotypes. Not that I disagree with all of this, but why then is discrimination bad? If I discriminate by giving all female …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:25 AM
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I explained that generalizations are sexist. Then why is sexism/generalising bad? You're not really explaining - so far you've told me misogyny is hating women - I assume you mean hating women more than men (I can see why that's bad) - and that generalising is sexism is generalising. You were the one that said you found women boring and uninteresting outside of sex. That means you don't know how to relate to them. I can relate to people I find boring. I find most people boring. The few I don't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:09 PM
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Be serious. That's a strawman. No, I'm deadly serious. It's a difference to me if someone is a man or a woman. Sexism or gender discrimination is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender. Now either it's sexism to say that I will only have intercourse or a sexual relationship with a woman, and it's also sexism to say that I will only partake in certain other activities with a man, or it's not sexism in either case. You decide which. You can only relate to people that have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:39 PM
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In this case, I'm proud to be sexist/racist/whatever because the meaning of it is so uncontroversial. Holding different opinions about people who are objectively different is not a flaw, and if you call that sexist then I have no problem being sexist. If you call that racist, bigoted or whatever then that's true (under your definition of that phrase) and I'm proud of it. I wouldn't ever fuck a guy, but I would fuck a girl. That's discrimination based on a biological factor that someone has no co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:29 PM
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Yeah, that's why I'm saying there shouldn't be different roles, but that some roles will be male-dominated (such as Marines or other 'shock troop' type roles) while others will be female-dominated (such as snipers or maybe scouts), and that this is natural and not a sign of a sexist system. Basically, reality is sexist in that your gender will mean you are more likely to go into one direction or the other (physically, mentally or however else) and this is not a sign of 'institutionalised sexism'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 12:58 AM
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Depends, some people including stuff like programming in IT, which can benefit a lot from University.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 12:20 PM
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I honestly think that's going in the completely wrong direction. What we should have is different tests for different roles, and some tests will be easier for women and others for men, so some roles will have more women and others more men. There is more variance within a gender than differences between them, so there will be some men who are better suited for the majority-women roles (as in, physically smaller and maybe also with more effeminate traits) as well as vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:24 AM
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Well, my argument is that the anger phase can be a good thing. You are saying that some of the time it might not be a phase, but that doesn't refute my point. Also, do you think that any information (regardless of how true it is) that could cause people to become angry should be censored? If not (as I assume you will reply), why only TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:54 PM
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I'm so fucking glad I don't live in the US, what with the odds being Hillary 'Women are the primary victims of war' Clinton is going to run the country.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 11:47 PM
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Yes, they do [look like front-line combatants]. There are trends within genders, but individual variance is greater. Men are generally stronger than women means that the mean strength of a man is greater than the mean strength of a woman, not that the strongest woman is weaker than the weakest man. I don't think women shouldn't be front-line combatants, I just think that women shouldn't be held to a lower standard of physical ability due to being women. To be completely honest, I think it's incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:34 PM
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I completely agree with this. In all cases where we judge people it should be on the basis of that individual. But noticing trends is not inherently anti-equality. Also, this post is not aimed for/against equality, just asking what statements you agree with. The only part where it is linked to equality is in terms of how we measure it - if, all else being equal, men and women would still not have the same earnings because men tend to be physically stronger (even if it's not true in every case), …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:29 PM
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Yeah, if someone stays angry forever, that's not a phase. That's why when I said phase earlier I gave a definition next to it (it went like this: 'brief period' and was right after I told you we could play basic pedantry all day. It therefore follows that if it's not a brief period, it's not a phase). So I can't explain how this is a phase but luckily I don't need to, since I never claimed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:27 PM
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We can play 'basic pedantry' all day, but the fact is I went through a phase (brief period) of being angry about a number of reasons that I recently discovered (swallowing the pill), which ended when I realised that these were not things I should get angry over. You can argue about the exact words if you want, but that's a condensed timeline with no complex structure or whatever that might be confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:57 AM
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because women are naturally less strong than men, women will do a lesser job. Ah, I didn't intend for the OP to come across like that. I was more aiming to attack the idea that the wage gap (as currently measured) is a good way to determine how equal a society is, as I think there are some factors that would lead to an inequal distribution of wealth across the whole society even if we had equal opportunities for everyone. I think I understand the opposition to my points better, and that it's mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:55 AM
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Logistics IS war From my post: Do you have any other reasons you think women are suited to be frontline combatants even if they fail the physical requirements required of men? I'll take that as a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 12:41 AM
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By getting her to consensually do it, then creep her out later so 'it was totally rape all along guis!!'
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 02:05 PM
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Who knows indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:49 AM
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I think you are misunderstand some of what I'm saying. I don't think women shouldn't be allowed in these fields - far from it. There is a larger variance from person to person than there is based on gender. What I do think is that there will always be slight differences across the entire genders, and in a perfectly equal society (i.e. equal opportunities regardless of race, gender etc.) there will still be outcome inequality due to inborn differences. It is impossible for the top 20% of women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:39 AM
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I have impulsively taken risks I wouldn't otherwise, sure. But I spend a good deal of time angry or testosterone-fuelled, as do a lot of men. Basically, if you get angry or sad, I'll probably just get angry in the same situation, and try to do something about it - which leads to me taking more risks in various parts of my life, with regards to long-term planning. I'm talking specifically about looking for promotions/raises etc. in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:35 AM
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Ah, I was referring solely to roles where someone has to pass a physical test to participate. Not sure how it is where you live, but here that's only required for frontline combatants afaik (my friend is in the army). Sorry if I wasn't clear enough on my points, but I still don't agree with you. Ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:33 AM
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The fact that a women-only army went up against one of the most vicious fighting forces on earth (isis) and drove them back singlehandedly in a certain area, proves that women are capable soldiers who can endure physical hardships. I'd like to know how that can be disputed. That can be disputed by the fact that it's the exception that proves the rule. The vast majority of armies in the history of the world have been composed of mostly/only men. If women armies were better, then they would propag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:06 AM
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You're right, I don't have experience with working a fishing job - the point of devil's advocate is to challenge an idea even if you don't disagree with it. However, there is a major disagreement I have with this: if the military is the only exception; then women have been trying to assert themselves into combat for a long time, so if a woman wants to put her life on the line for her Country; is the only real argument that she shouldn't be ably to because most women can't do 3 pill ups? There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:53 PM
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My OP wasn't designed to be a rigorous argument, so I guess I can't hold it against you that your rebuttal isn't either. Originally I just wanted to see what the BP opinion was on these statements, and there was a lot more agreement than I expected. I can't show you a source that testosterone affects strategic decisions, but in my experience I've been more likely to take risks when angry or otherwise in a testosterone-fuelled state.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:44 PM
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Quoting from Personality Changes section: Nevertheless, these findings are not considered conclusive because prior research has shown mixed results. Also, it doesn't state that Testosterone affects impulsive/instinctive behaviors. Not strategic ones. at all. Is this a conclusion you've reached on your own? The source you quoted doesn't support your point, that I can see at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:27 PM
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Most BP would deny the following: See, that's what I thought too, but in this thread they are all agreeing with it. When my model of reality and reality itself clash, I change the model, so where I used to think your stance was pretty normal for bluepill, it seems you're a vocal minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:26 PM
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Source on the last two paragraphs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:24 PM
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War should not be operated by men only/largely men, with only male perspectives. War is not something that requires 'a unique perspective'. It requires the ability to endure physical and mental hardship, and the ability to kill people. Neither of these are uniquely feminine traits, and I'd argue that women have a harder time enduring the same amount of physical hardship in a variety of ways, from large factors like being smaller/weaker on average, to small factors like not being able to pee stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:16 PM
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To play devil's advocate, the only reason that the women you're talking about get so much respect is because they are so good despite being women - basically, they are the top 1% of women fishermen, whereas male fishermen are drawn from the top 30% or whatever of men. If hiring practices were equal, there would always be more men who are capable than there are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:06 AM
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Are you from the US? I've heard they have some rather strange practices, and that must suck. It's quite a bit longer (although it varies as well) over in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:03 AM
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Yeah, I'm not saying there aren't workarounds, but even if women get pregnant at 50 instead of 25, it will still slightly decrease the experience they have in their job compared to a man with all else being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:02 AM
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As someone else from EU, I agree that US-centric stuff is quite common, but in this case you have to agree that - all other things being equal - men with 1 year's more experience will do their job a little bit better than women who don't have that, which leads to raises/promotions that the women don't get. It's a small factor, but my point was basically that men and women will never have 100% income parity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:59 AM
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In response to your edits: My argument in the last 3 points, which seem to be the only contentious ones so far, is that men will climb the corporate ladder to a higher point in their working life, which leads to them getting paid more, even if we are in a perfectly equal society because of biological differences. Men are naturally better workers due to not getting pregnant. As phrased here, this is something I don't personally agree with, and am glad that most other people don't, but there is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:58 AM
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Yeah, there isn't ever really a winner. That's life for you, I guess. You just do what you can and hope for the best. The point about men being better workers is something that I think is a small factor that means we can never have 100% income equality between genders without giving women more money for doing a lesser job, or forcing men to take equal paternity leave to a woman's maternity leave, both of which are not outcomes I'd like to see. It makes me a little sad that although it's easy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:47 AM
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Ah ok, I try to be very careful to avoid logical fallacies, even though they're hardest to spot in your own arguments. My point with regards to men being better workers because they don't get pregnant is just that women, due to actually carrying the baby, and then being more likely to stay at home to care for it for a few months (due to men not producing breast milk), will have a period of stagnation, where men can continue to gain experience and climb the ladder. It's not a major thing, but if …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:26 AM
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the post was weak. The poster just also happens to be bitter and crazy. Yet you've said exactly nothing about why or how the post was weak, just attacked the poster. In an argument about how true something is, the character of the arguer is irrelevant. He could be literally Hitler, and that wouldn't be enough to make his argument wrong, since his argument is based on ideas, not character. You are basing your assessment of someone's argument on their character, and their character on their agreei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:38 AM
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That's probably true, since there are 95k people on TRP. The amount that I've stated is already enough to get you crucified if you say it in public, though, which I find quite interesting given how uncontroversial it seems to be on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:32 AM
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Fair enough. I wasn't trying to make a straw man argument, just wondering if anyone like that was here, since I've encountered people like that irl before. Just out of interest, what rebuttals do you have to the last 3? (i.e. why do you disagree) This isn't a trap, even if you just feel it's wrong that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:45 PM
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Men have and value different traits to women. Men are less discreet than women, and I'm sure women value the quality of discreetness more than men do. TRP concerns itself with the traits we value and might expect in women, so we are forewarned. In the same way that a mother might tell her daughter that "men only want one thing", TRP dispenses parental advice we never received that "women are opportunistic and gold-diggers". It's not true of everyone, but it's an important warning that is sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:14 PM
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Source? At the time they were introduced, there was no prospect of women ever being subjected to them because no women could join the army and no-one considered it a possibility either. Also, simply reducing the amount a woman needs to lift to be a soldier leads to people dying. If you, as a woman, can't drag a wounded man back to the medic you shouldn't be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:00 PM
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I'm not admitting or stating anything, just asking which points you agree with. Feel free to agree with any other points you want, and state them in the comments as well. But do you mean you agree with all the points I posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:58 PM
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Not getting pregnant means more time at work, which leads to more experience, which leads to being a better worker. This is assuming all other things are equal. If you still disagree, and as you still disagree with the last two points, do you think that women should be paid more for an equal ability given that men have an advantage in terms of natural ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:57 PM
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Point 1: My idea of honour is not that common amongst women I have talked to. Also, any TRP generalisation is along the lines of AWALT. It's a warning rather than a law. Do all women have no honour all the time? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. Can you rely on a woman having even a little honour, no matter how well you know her? No. Look at the divorce courts for proof. Some men, you know you can trust with your worst secret. You can't for women, or at least shouldn't. (All this is from …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:47 PM
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Article by Time about the possibility Article by The Daily Beast about the pullups issue, stating that 55% of female recruits can't do 3 pullups while less than 1% of male recruits failed the test. If women as a gender are nearly incapable of a range of muscle movements (nearly incapable -> after a lot of training of the physically more able members, over half can't do it) then isn't that alone an argument against having female soldiers? Edit: Article by A Voice For Men which I assume you will c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:30 PM
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There are policy decisions being made today that violate some of these points. Unequal hiring decisions in the military and emergency services are being proposed, and some have even been implemented. I thought (wrongly, it seems) that these were more controversial than they turned out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:14 PM
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A lot of people I've talked to in real life would disagree with at least some of these points, and policy decisions in the real world are being made that go against primarily point 3 (women have lower physical requirements to enter the army). I was wondering how many BluePillers agreed with that. I guess the answer is 'not many'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:12 PM
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I'm not angry at women any more. I used to be though, and it was something that improved me. Basically, I entered the anger phase when I realised stuff like the 80/20 rule and that everything I'd been taught and everything I'd tried with regards to relationships was rubbish. I focused my anger at women because it had been women (whether friends or relatives) who'd told me to 'be myself', 'you're great, just not my type' and 'don't change, you'll find the perfect girl one day soon'. That was beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:10 PM
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I don't see that often if ever. And when I do see stuff like that, it's normally not upvoted or if it is, it's because it's part of a bigger, useful and well-thought-out post. We do, however, post a lot more about how women are than men are. That's because we're not interested in fucking other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:54 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/XGPiMqZ.png?1
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:35 PM
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The thing is, TRP does have a lot of negative AMALT, except split along AF/BB lines because there's a massive divide. AF is often impulsive, has poor self-control and planning, and is the stereotypical 'manly man'. BB is a coward who can't handle confrontation, especially with women, and doesn't ever dare to make a move. This isn't true all the time, or in every case, but often enough that we generalise this a lot. The thing is, we don't discuss this in as much detail, because we're not trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:26 PM
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Yeah, but like you said jailbait and n*ggers got banned already. Besides, we are a massive sub at almost 100k subs, and well-known as an 'Internet hate machine' etc. across all of reddit. If the SJWs want to shut us down, given that reddit's CEO is a woman, it shouldn't be too hard.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 09:15 PM
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If you get a girl directly off another guy, she's only ever borrowed. Whether she goes back to him or just into the dating pool again, she's going to treat you the same way she treated him as soon as another you rolls around. The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 02:30 AM
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There is some rationality, it's just not conscious. The majority of TRP is a list of the logical rules that women abide by, and how to exploit them - the first one is recognise that these 'hidden' rules exist, but that you must never acknowledge it in person.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 02:27 AM
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I don't mean MGTOW don't improve, just that they don't measure improvement by their SMV. There's a lot of crossover between improving yourself for yourself and improving yourself for women, but in the end, some hobbies you might enjoy and improve in won't help with women, and some ways you can appear more attractive to women don't improve you as a person. MGTOW care about becoming top 20%, but they don't want the top 20% of SMV, they want the top 20% of other benchmarks.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 02:20 AM
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Regardless of what the motivation for feminism was, originally they campaigned for legal equality. (e.g. it's illegal to only hire men if it's because you prefer men, and vice versa, and also voting rights) Now they are campaigning for all sorts of bullshit and it's only gonna get worse. You want to see a hamster in action? Just ask a feminist what their 'win condition' is where feminism has succeeded and is no longer necessary.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 11:22 PM
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Gotta add that /s, there are enough blatant trolls and/or retards that believe the stupidest shit that it's never clear who's sarcastic.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:20 PM
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There actually are some basic beliefs of the left, they're just completely divorced from any real information. Basically leftists think all problems in the world are because of oppression and inequality, and everyone should have equality of outcome which would make everyone happy. Co-incidentally, the majority of leftist support comes from life's losers, who have many people that 'beat' them in life. Rather than improve themselves, they want to take others' success away and redistribute it.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 11:53 AM
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Because they don't care about becoming top 20% SMV-wise, because they don't care about SMV at all. Everyone who cares about getting women at all should strive to be top 20% SMV.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 11:40 AM
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That person would be massively crucified. Can you imagine the amount of hate and backlash they would get? Everyone involved would be considered to be to blame for everything from FGM to ethnic cleansing in 3rd world shitholes.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 11:37 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/5JktSjO.png
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 11:32 AM
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Yeah, and now an even greater lie has taken place. If the first case of dishonesty was enough to break up over, this should be even more of a clear-cut case. Seriously, how can anyone defend lying to your partner (even by omission) about whether a child is his, or might not be?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 11:29 AM
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To be fair, if you're dumb as a sack of rocks and two geniuses tell each other 'you're as dumb as /u/se7enpsyopaths ' you'd get pretty pissed. But if you were short, and people said 'he's about as big as /u/se7enpsyopaths ' and you were to get offended, I'd laugh at you for being a pussy. I think this is what's happening, except no-one's calling women out on their bullshit. Surely the first thing women who are against phrases like that should do is get better at throwing? But no, let's complain …
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 04:37 AM
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Fair enough. Being truly dependable is a very valuable trait nowadays.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 04:30 AM
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Yeah, 'red pilling' in the original sense included gender stuff but was more of a general conspiracy thing. It's only since the subreddit began that it became synonymous with the male perspective on gender relations. I'm very certain that if 'redpill' or 'the redpill' was involved in the name, your friend was a bona fide tinfoil hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 04:30 AM
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I'm pregnant with someone who may or may not be your child, yet I let you go on believing it's 100% yours. What does that say about me as a person? Fuck this bitch. The guy should dump her and get someone more loyal, and his friend can go fuck himself too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 03:26 AM
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Cut my losses. If she hadn't had the decency to tell me that it might not be my child, or intentionally mislead me, then that's not someone I would ever trust with anything even mildly important to me, or spend time with. The scale of the lie would fuck the relationship up forever. (I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know what actually happens in it)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 03:11 AM
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not the person you replied to, but 'redpilling' originated on 4chan as slang for conspiracy theories and due to /pol/ being /pol/, rapidly devolved into 'The Jews did this!' If the guy was talking about 'red pill', 'the red pill' or 'red pilled' then he probably meant something like this or this - obviously this is a little exaggerated but well, that's what /pol/ is - and if he was talking about 'female privilege' or 'men's rights' he probably meant something like this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 03:08 AM
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realpolitik, as I understand it, just means the way things really are as compared to the general idea it is taken as. At least that's the way I've seen it used most. TRP is about the reality of the SMP, how SMV works for men and how to raise it, and a big part of that is to become a goal-oriented man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 02:58 AM
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If my ex had to run off and fuck my 'friend' to realise how great I was, I would tell her to go fuck herself with a pitchfork and then stab him with it. /hyperbole Seriously, someone who's shown that low a level of basic decency and respect is (regardless of their opinion on me) a poor partner in my estimation of them. I'd also not be happy with the friend, but I'd be less likely to drop him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 02:53 AM
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One of the arguments against abolishing slavery was that slaves actually had it better than the bottom part of white society. Obviously slavery is bad, but so is starving to death along with your wife + dozen kids.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:50 AM
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You might be right, but I can at least hope. And maybe get some marshmallows and toasting forks so I have something to do while the world burns.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:43 AM
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Basically his frame was that the rape allegation was bullshit, and they were being completely out of order. He kept acting like his frame was correct, even when they tried to force their frame on him (which was 'he's a rapist and must suffer horrible consequences' and also 'he is on trial and we are the judge and jury'). If he had given in to their frame, they would have been able to easily control the conversation and no matter how hard he denied it, they would feel like they were right because…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:40 AM
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I prefer the simple, "I've never seen it myself and I try to always make judgments based on seeing stuff for myself", and if they continue ask them whether you're at least getting a second-hand perspective. Mostly because it's much less confrontational, and so I can deflect that stuff easier.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:24 AM
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Everything is context-dependent. A close friend of mine redpilled me. I've always been fairly smart and very scientifically minded, I'd just never applied it to gender/feminism/relationships because of how deeply I was swallowing the blue pill. It only took about 10 mins and an introduction to the sub to start me on this path.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:22 AM
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Modern sweatshops have better working conditions than British factories during the industrial revolution 250 years ago. Locals flock to them, because it's better than grubbing in the dirt all fucking day. Of course we are exploiting them, but they are exploiting our need for cheap labour as well. In the end everyone is better off. Of course, we could make things even better for them (and I don't think sweatshops are good), but as it is we aren't basically ass-raping them economically - they want…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:21 AM
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Because by providing negative feedback (voting with our feet) it becomes much harder for those inflating it to keep it going. Stuff like men leaving marriage, etc. shows that feminist rhetoric is not going to get them what they want, and eventually they will (hopefully) figure this out.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:14 AM
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I think the OP is valuable content due to the explanation (can you imagine a reversed commercial without at least a moderate backlash/outcry/whatever?), about how society has different standards for men and women. Regular examples that reinforce and support RP theory is useful. That said, this is barely past the line of what I'd personally consider shitposting, although I see why it can be valuable for new people.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:11 AM
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They are awesome friends Why? I mean from what you said (admittedly very little) they don't seem to have much respect for you, possibly because they undervalue you or because your true value is below them. Either case, you should do something to deal with it and not be the 'lowest rung', so to speak (this is from past experience).
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:08 AM
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Some people enjoy giving to charity. It can feel good for a variety of reasons, including (but not limited to) being an expression of power and dominance (imagine a king handing out favours to his subjects), or as a status symbol (I give $LOTS to charity every year, what do YOU do?) or even as a legacy (people will remember Bill Gates as being the human being who single-handedly contributed the most money to charitable endeavours for a long time).
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 02:04 AM
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Time to start recording everything, and work the phrase 'tell me how much you want my dick' or something similar into everything you do with a woman.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 11:55 AM
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As someone from the UK, I'd always been under the impression that innocent until proven guilty was a part of the law here too, and look what we have now.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 11:51 AM
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I think he's listing stuff like so: Homosexuality Cuckoldry Female Dominance Basically anything a sufficiently Blue Pill person does in the bedroom So he sees homosexuality as detrimental to a society's long term success, and while I'm personally pro-gay I understand his argument and even agree with it - for a society, it's better if the gay men and women also form families and reproduce. Nowadays that's less necessary, but a few centuries ago that would have been a valid point that would have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:12 AM
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AWALT is a warning. I remember in school, we had a yearly assembly about 'don't accept drinks from strange guys'. All the girls would be suitably horrified at the thought of ever doing that until, y'know, later that evening. But the general attitude of 'zomg that drink could be spiked' is sensible. So with AWALT, the general attitude of 'I have no reason to trust this person (yet), and plenty of reasons to distrust her' is a very necessary warning to newbies who still pedestalise women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:02 AM
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Preface everything she says with "Right now I feel like". "Right now I feel like I'll love you forever." "Right now I feel like you're being unreasonable." "Right now I feel like there's nothing between me and him, he's just a co-worker."
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 09:29 PM
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Well in that case I'll just 'chase my dreams' as the commonly-touted expression goes, and win or lose I'll be happier than wifing a slut and getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:54 PM
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I am not really sure how that dynamic would have changed if we'd had more partners beforehand. It would definitely be different, and honestly, probably not better seeing as there is something to be said about exploring literally everything first with one person and your sexual styles meshing together as a consequence. This is something that disagrees with your earlier points about more experienced women being better, as they are more able to satisfy you. Also, I'd say your situation is very unus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 06:55 PM
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No offense, but I'll take your recommendations with a grain of salt - apart from anything else, you are rationalising your own choices away. Take a moment and be honest with yourself - I don't expect you to tell me - but do you really think you'd be happier, and your partner would be happier, if you'd had more partners in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:07 PM
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Excellent, I love a challenging debate. I'm gonna change tack now: a woman who is interested in a lot of partners without entering a relationship with them is a poor choice of partner for an LTR, because past behaviour is the best predictor for future behaviour. Furthermore, even if she doesn't fit into any of the categories I described earlier, we can say that there is a correlation - not necessarily causation - between having a lot of partners and being more likely to divorce. So, all other th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 04:26 PM
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That would come under either poor self-control or lack of experience with LTRs, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 04:02 PM
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Exactly. If he still wanted this slut even as a plate, she'd have her lips wrapped around his cock at this very moment.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 02:41 AM
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Yeah, but my chances are a hell of a lot better than with a woman who's had more partners. If I had a higher chance of a successful marriage with a slut, I'd try to get one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:02 PM
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You are saying (correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the literal content of your earlier posts) "fear is not good or bad, but acting based on fear is always bad". I'm pointing out that that's horseshit - whether that was the point you were trying to make or not - and that in a majority of cases acting based on fear is a good thing. I fear having slightly worse sex a lot less than getting divorced and losing half my money. I'm never going to marry, but if I were, I would take every precaution pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 04:15 PM
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That's a completely insane statement and you're talking rubbish (no offense). I'm going to try to explain why, because I think that these opinions are not ones you've thought through properly. Emotions, thoughts and feelings have no effect if they are not acted upon, in however small a way. If I am angry but it is impossible to tell the difference between me while I am angry and me while I am calm, because there is no visible difference, then me being angry has no effect on the world around me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:38 PM
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Yeah, but can you agree that if we assume some RP beliefs (specifically, men tend to want sex and women tend to want commitment, and also pre-selection and the damaged pair-bonding that results from women slutting around) then there is a rather large difference between what a high kill count means for a guy or for a girl? I'm not trying to trick you or anything, just wondering if (given that you understand our position) you can understand our conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:20 PM
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I'm not saying FEAR is good or bad. anything that comes from fear is bad. That seems kind of like a contradiction there. You can't know whether fear is the motivator for men who want inexperienced women, unless you are one yourself and you have interacted with a lot of other men who are too. Likewise for women who want experienced/wealthy men. Besides, regardless of the motivation, if it were a sensible fear then I should follow it regardless of your opinions on fear. Being afraid of getting div…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:18 PM
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anything that comes from fear is bad. Fear exists as a warning sign to people that an action/situation is dangerous or risky. Being afraid of something risky, like marrying a slut, is a smart thing. We have evolved with fear, and it wouldn't exist if it weren't useful. I'm afraid of lots of things - dying, losing a limb, my father losing his job, me losing my place at university, and wifing up a slut. They are all things that would be bad for me. Claiming that being afraid of something is a fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:46 AM
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Not sure if you're serious, but what he means by 'anonymous sub' is this one, and the post he's talking about is this one too.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 12:56 AM
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I guess it depends on the person, but a few times I've noticed that there are things I'd do for a guy but I'm more hesitant doing for a girl, simply because I know a guy will appreciate it more and next time offer to help me instead of expecting it again. At the same time, some requests - while serious from a girl (like "Can you get rid of this spider?" - obviously not all women are like this, but some are) - would be clearly sarcastic from a guy. So there is a difference between what I'd do for…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 12:55 AM
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I think deep down I always harbor the hope that women, while significantly different than us, are still people. It's really important to recognize that there is a huge difference between what men are really like, what women are really like, and how each gender represents themselves 'publicly'. Men's reality and women's public image are very similar, but dig a little deeper and there's a huge gulf between how men and women see the exact same situation. It's not a case of women being horrible. Tha…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 12:52 AM
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That's a viable explanation for soldiers raping and plundering then, isn't it? If they've just fought a battle and are on an adrenaline high, and the only possible outlets are the civilians of the army who was just trying to kill them, then in the circumstances I can understand but not condone what they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 12:57 PM
2

If you assume women have a high rate of physical infirmity to the point that they can't easily stand upright for 10 mins, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:48 AM
2

Given the context, I would say OP means that we are relatively losers, compared to our surroundings (i.e. bottom 80%), which is probably an accurate assessment. The reason we are on TRP is to change that, and those who succeed can simply leave or just lurk, because they no longer need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:40 AM
2

"I now define my mother's basement as succeeding, and becoming a redpiller as failing! There, I win at life!" - OP, probably
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:37 AM
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Inferior I think women are different. Women are different in some ways that I would call inferior to men's ways, because as a man I value men's ways more, where women would hold the opposite opinion. There is no neutral viewpoint to judge the relative superiority/inferiority of genders from. All I can say for sure is that some traits are more widespread in one gender than another, especially when it comes to relationships, and I personally prefer being a guy and dealing with guys (outside of rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:33 AM
3

I've heard that after life-threatening situations, men feel a much stronger urge to fuck (can't find source atm) which would explain at least part of it. Kinda like beer goggles, no matter how drunk I am I'm not fucking a dude but I might get with an ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:17 AM
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So in a sense, you watch what they do, not what they say, and then build up a lexicon of hamsterisation -> reality so you can decode future hamsterspeak.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 02:50 AM
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Can't remember where I read it, but apparently oxytocin (a chemical released in the brain during sex which promotes pair bonding in couples) is produced less by women who have had more partners. So that would be a causal link. That said, I do agree that there is more to it than just simple A causes B.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 02:39 AM
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Yeah, and I do, but just like hearing about someone ruining their life with drugs makes me a little sad, so does hearing about someone ruining their life with other stuff. And being a past cum dumpster is much more widespread than any other issue, I'd argue (at least where I live).
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 09:47 PM
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I agree, but it gets me angry too because I have to sift through all the crap to get to anyone worth something. You can't always tell whether someone's a cum dumpster just from an online profile or meeting them once.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 06:55 PM
2

There are a few, I think, but they're the exception that prove the rule. Like when someone's strongest argument for a matriarchal society is 'This one time, for two whole months, women were in charge of a 3rd world shithole until they were conquered' that's basically admitting defeat right off the bat.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 06:54 PM
1

I think sometimes hardship is a positive feeling. When you get that burn from going a little harder that you thought possible while exercising, you feel like shit but you feel great at the same time. If you went through life experiencing only the highs, it would be pretty boring. I understand the RP principle of 'keep women entertained emotionally, if they are angry/sad it's better than bored' because in a way we're all like that - it's just less pronounced for men.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 06:51 PM
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MRA especially. While I personally am interested enough in Men's Rights that I don't mind seeing an occasional post about it, there is almost no overlap with TRP and I don't think there should be nearly as many MRA posts on here as there have been lately. Apart from where a new law is clearly biased in a way that demonstrates RP principles, it doesn't fucking matter on here.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 06:49 PM
3

/r/fatpeoplehate is great for motivation. When you see some of the pictures, you become desperate to avoid ever looking like that.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 06:45 PM
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There's a beautiful mixture of 'are you a virgin? thought not, don't be hypocritical and prefer virgins' and 'man, this guy must be a virgin. wizardry awaits you'. 10/10 for the sheer stupidity.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 12:46 PM
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Do you dislike people just because they have different beliefs to you? Because I don't, despite that being what you're implying. Just because I think a Christian or Muslim is less smart that I'd think they were if they weren't religious, doesn't mean I also downgrade how good of a person I think they are, or how much I like them. The majority of people I spend time with, I enjoy spending time with, and it's because we share interests not because we are all equally smart. You seem to either have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 12:40 PM
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I'd love to see someone try to give a counterexample to this rather than just downvoting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 01:13 PM
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Yeah. There is some overlap though, and I think that's who the question is aimed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:45 PM
1

The same thing happens in a household where the man has no spine. When the mother calls the shots, the kids don't have much respect because it's all about her feelz rather than what actually happened.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 03:16 AM
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how many people they dated beforehand, should be irrelevant in a relationship. Here I disagree. The number of prior partners is one of the best determinants of how likely your SO is to divorce you. I wouldn't be comfortable closing my eyes to such relevant information. i guess it depends on the context. Would you say it depends on the thoughts that go into the actions by the manipulator, or the effects of the manipulation? or both? its all about sincerity. It seems for you, the decider as to whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 02:50 AM
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TalkTalk is already doing this, along with some others. It's even worse than it sounds - the protect the children scheme doesn't just include pornography, there's also violence, 'extremism' (whatever that means), and more. At the moment it's opt-in for existing customers, but new customers have it as an opt-out thing. Welcome to the 21st century, where parents rely on the government to stop their kids looking at porn instead of just not, y'know, giving their 10 year olds unrestricted unsupervise…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 09:58 PM
2

I think the problem is that modern women, especially young ones, have a vastly overinflated sense of their own SMV. From 18-22, at least 2/3 of the women I see just walking around Uni are 6+, but there aren't more than 10% 9+, while they all think they're an 8 at least. Plating happens because to offset the 3 or more point gap in SMV, women offer low maintenance sex. It's not really what they want, but they also don't want a relationship with someone 3 points below whoever they're fucking atm. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:41 PM
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in college Coming from the UK, where the student loans system and University costs are different, I don't understand why so many people in the US go to college like it's expected, when they're not going to get a job in that field and saddle themselves with debt. If I were looking for a future wife and SAHM I wouldn't want someone who brings a net value of -$50k or however much student debt they have, I'd want someone with maybe some small debt off a car at most. It's not just about the money and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:35 PM
3

Not to the thought police!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:23 PM
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Slut does literally mean 'promiscuous woman' though. And part of what I personally like about TRP is that it's one of the few places that doesn't police the tone of conversation, yet still has worthwhile content. If the tone of the sub is enough to put you off, you're probably not ready for unplugging anyway (not an attack, just an observation).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 07:25 PM
3

It was very big last year in my school (UK), several teachers grew mustaches. Probably bigger than Breast Cancer even, in terms of awareness, but they raised much less money.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 05:06 PM
1

I don't dislike the group. I make assumptions about people in the group based on their membership of the group. In my earlier green vs grey eye example, I don't think all green eyed people are stupid or all grey eyed people are smart. I just recognize that there's a trend and that regardless of it being fair, a grey eyed person is likely to be smarter than a green eyed person. I don't think all Christians, as an example, are stupid. But I do downgrade my estimate of their intelligence when I fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 10:53 PM
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at least you are acknowledging that men have those traits too. TRP consensus is that the majority of men in modern western society are plugged in. They have plenty of negative traits, some of which they have more frequently than women, some less frequently, and some with equal frequency. There's also some traits that Red Pill men have that fit the same bill. But tbh I give less of a shit about that, because I'm not looking to stick my dick in one of them. TRP is men talking to men about women. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 08:02 PM
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I'm obviously not going to discuss relationship stuff with the person I'm in a relationship in, and I've found that - at least in the circles I've always been in - male friends are much more trustworthy. There's a lot of male stuff I just generally wouldn't be comfortable talking to women about, too, like TRP stuff. There's some stuff guys just don't talk to women about usually. If you were a woman, you wouldn't normally discuss periods or whatever with guys, would you? But you'd be more open to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 07:38 PM
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I never really dealt with that because I based my knowledge on what I saw entirely. This is one of the core ideas in TRP. Watch what they do, not what they say. Sadly I needed to explicitly hear it to start using it. And your point about 'Nice Guys' is well made. It reminds me of this article about how being 'nice' on its own is pretty useless. I think I can understand your position fairly well, although I do think that most of TRP is correct. I honestly prefer emotional closeness with men anywa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:17 PM
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That's my point. Inside me is a lazy piece of shit. I have to overcome that to make an outside me that is interesting, attractive and competent. And even if my inside person was already great, there are some things you don't discuss with your partner, like past relationships, times you horribly embarrassed yourself (especially recently), and the like. I don't want to hear all this stuff from my partner either, unless it's causing them problems and they need to discuss it. Also, there's a couple …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:48 PM
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No offense, but being 'genuine' is a crock of shit and the worst advice I ever got. You know what 'genuine' me is? A boring guy who plays video games and browses content aggregators, while avoiding exercise and eating crap. If I want a good relationship, I have to put work in, and improve myself. I have to act like all those embarrassing moments, all my humiliating failures never happened. I have to project an image of an attractive version of me. Dread game is not about 'I can leave if I want, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:23 AM
1

I still think AWALT is a lazy generalization. Instead you may want to say "be wary that being vulnerable may get you hurt, but don't fixate on it". AWALT is shorthand for, basically, your version, except in less PC language. A major thing at TRP, that I appreciate a lot, is that saying stuff in an unfriendly or provocative tone doesn't automatically invalidate an argument. Not being PC doesn't imply not being correct. It's a big change from the rest of reddit, and while if you say stupid shit yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:12 AM
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I was mislead into several beliefs. Firstly, that men and women were identical - disregarding obvious superficial differences. Secondly, that as a man I had some form of inherited guilt with regards to oppressing women. Thirdly, that being nice to women and suppressing my own desires was how to have a happy and fulfilling relationship. I could go on, but you can start to see the general gist of it. I was a doormat and generally pathetic. I was antisocial, didn't improve myself, looked down on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:02 AM
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If black people had to choose to be black and engage with black culture, rather than being born into it, then I'd judge them for it. As muslims choose to be religious, I judge them for it. Same for homeopaths etc. You believe in some form of magic or whatever you want to call it? I'm going to assume you're slightly dumber than I thought. Considering that a common tenet of faith for a lot of religions is that only they go to the good place when they die, and everyone else goes straight to hell, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:49 AM
2

Nobody purposefully lied to me, but the overall impression I was given of life - and in particular, relationships - was a recipe for disaster that repeatedly fucked me over. Finding out that all those negative experiences were because I was operating on the wrong set of instructions was incredibly frustrating. I can tell you that on average, a woman earns 70% of what a man does. I can also tell you that women control 80% of disposable income. If I only told you one of these pieces of information…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:13 PM
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AWALT is about all women having the capacity to do [insert thing here]. Basically, you know how there are men who believe - deeply believe, as though it's a law of nature - that their wife will never cheat on them, or leave them, or whatever. AWALT keeps me from becoming one of them. I don't expect my gf to cheat, but it's always a possibility. ~50% of marriages end in divorce where I live, and I doubt that half of people get married with the expectation that they're gonna get divorced one day. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:08 PM
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Sorry, I think I might not have stated my point clearly. Regardless of whether you should feel angry, it can be [for me, has been] useful to get angry because it can motivate, it lets you make changes that you wouldn't normally, and it's a completely natural response in a lot of cases. Do you understand this point of view, and do you agree with it, or do think it's rubbish? Secondary point though: If finding out that a load of people have inadvertently been fucking you over doesn't make you angr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:50 PM
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extremely lazy generalization If it's true, even if it's only a 10% difference, it's useful to know. And regardless of follow-on arguments, that's a trait that I have experienced myself a lot, even before TRP. It's everywhere in popular culture as well. So do you think it's sexist to say that men and women tend to have behavioural differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:46 PM
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how good/shitty a person is I don't really care about that, since morality is very subjective - for example, I'm sure the ISIS fighters in the Middle East are sure that they're doing the most moral thing in the world. But saying stuff like 'women tend to prefer commitment, men tend to prefer sex' isn't making moral judgements, just making generalisations about two discrete groups. Do you think this is still sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:26 PM
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Ah, so you think that due to the tone the entire sub is worthless? [I don't mean this as an attack, just an observation]
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:24 PM
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Fair enough. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise, just offer a perspective, but maybe the reason so many people on TRP are angry/full of hatred is because they have been told the opposite their entire life - "Put other people's needs before your own", "Happy wife, happy life", and all that stuff? I myself was angry for a while, although I'm not any more. It helped me become selfish in the sense that I put my own needs before needs of lesser severity in others. It helped me get motivat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:23 PM
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Ah, we appear to be misunderstanding each other. I was talking about a person completely on their own, outside of a community. I completely agree that women could and would organise etc. and manage to survive and maybe even thrive if they were in a group, but you have to agree women would have a harder time of it than men simply because of biological differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:16 PM
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Racists Islamophobia is not something I support, but it's not racism. Being a Muslim is a choice. I could become a Muslim if I wanted, while I couldn't become black, or a woman. Believing in a religion is something I can easily discriminate against. I discriminate against all religions equally, but I do discriminate between religious and non-religious. I'm sure you feel differently towards those with the same religion as you, and I feel differently towards those with the same [lack of] religion …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:14 PM
0

Fair enough, that context makes your evidence more relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 05:09 PM
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Would you still be unhappy if instead of 'some people' I replaced 'women' with 'more women than men'? Or 'all women can be like this'? Basically, are you objecting because you think that TRP doesn't work on all women and so it is wrong or because you don't think that it works more on women than men (because men and women are not just equal but identical - at least in terms of thoughts)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 05:08 PM
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I don't dislike women because they are women. I have simply found that a greater proportion of women I talk to are boring than men that I talk to. Does this make me misogynist? I like muslims less than atheists. I also like christians less than atheists. Being muslim or christian is a choice, and people who make that choice I find slightly less pleasant to spend time with than people who don't. Does this make me an islamophobe? Your definitions, as they are written, are rather weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 05:06 PM
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We live in a time where even the BEST beginning can erode. Luckily, the flipside is also true. It is possible to turn around even the worst beginning, which is why a lot of people are on TRP
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 05:04 PM
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Yes, because as a guy I'd be quite happy with a girl 2 points lower as a booty call or whatever, if she was low-effort, whereas for women it's not the same. She wants at least an equally attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:26 PM
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Just with regards to your last line, and I don't mean this as a personal attack, just as an observation, you can't use 'I was in a relationship with someone who I wouldn't have thought was my type, but we've broken up' as evidence that you are interested in different types. Regardless of whether your statement is true or not, that doesn't work as evidence. Sorry, this is one of my triggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:12 PM
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Got it in one. Saying stuff like 'Red Pill is hypocritical! Muh feelz!' or whatever, regardless of whether it's correct or not, is completely irrelevant when we are discussing if it works or not. And while I don't think it is hypocritical, I don't particularly care either. Life isn't fair, people get fucked over for all sorts of reasons, and if I can get an advantage, even if it causes other people an equal disadvantage, that's something I will at least consider doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:07 PM
1

Fair enough, that's a reasonable and well-thought-out reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:01 PM
2

Just out of interest, which parts (if any) do you agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:49 AM
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So there's not really any part you agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:48 AM
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So you think if the sub were more PC and friendly, and the users seemed less sexist, you'd agree with all of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:45 AM
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Yeah, it's dependent on them getting pregnant. But we can ignore the ones who simply don't get pregnant, because their genes don't get passed on. And while men can break limbs, women can also break limbs but where men just inseminate a woman and could then leave, women have to be pregnant to pass genes on. Women who passed their genes on by necessity were pregnant at least once, and probably many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 10:43 AM
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I agree with you that being female, while you have a minor disadvantage (slightly smaller, slightly weaker due to muscles being routed differently to make room for breasts, etc. etc.), doesn't make you a helpless damsel. But specifically in relationships, I think we can all agree that while you are pregnant, especially near the end when your stomach is very limiting, you have a massive handicap and will also need to eat more that usual. It's also harder to fight off or run from predators. On the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:55 PM
2

Off the top of my head, after he calls her worse than a whore, he also demands the money for the sandwiches back, which is what leads her to sleep with him according to his friend. He reveals some beta attributes, but they end up enhancing his game because it's completely clear that he only invests in people he's getting a return from.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 02:25 AM
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Welcome to modern society, you must be new here.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/15 10:25 PM
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I think this might in part be because men need to mate guard to be sure that any children are theirs and not another man's. Women, on the other hand, don't have this issue.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/15 01:05 AM
1

I'm just gonna answer part of your question here, since most of your post has already been covered in great detail. How do I not hate everyone? This is quite tricky. Until recently, I was still very angry with basically everyone. I'm going to explain my epiphany using The Matrix as a metaphor, which is where the name of the sub comes from too - quite nice, I think. Essentially, we all live - and have always lived, as a species - within a set of rules that govern interpersonal actions, and interp…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 09:04 PM
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'Objectifying' is a stupid concept anyway. When a SJW accuses you of it, what they're saying is 'you looked at a woman and wanted to fuck her, or at least thought she was attractive'. So fucking what? We're all wired like that, or at least the vast majority, because those who aren't don't have kids and pass on their genes. They are complaining about a fundamental part of human biology.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 08:46 PM
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Dunno, I think it's better than wanking off, even if it's clear from the start that you're the latest in a loooong line of men.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 01:47 AM
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I agree, but the claim that there are mental differences inborn into different groups isn't going to get a serious look into anytime soon, if ever, and would be very hard to do. Since it seems unlikely to me that the differences, if any, would be major, especially compared to poverty/different religion/culture, so I can ignore the possible effects as currently insignificant. Whereas with women, it's proven that there are large differences in hormones, which on its own is enough to imply that the…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 11:45 AM
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Even if he turned off 4 times as many women as he attracted, having 20% of women you meet wanting to bang you is a pretty good success rate.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 11:37 AM
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The difference is that it is clear that men and women have major physical and mental differences, despite having equal numbers born at all levels of society, while for (for example) black people, more are born in poverty than white people, so you can't generalise as much. It's easy to prove there are differences between men and women that are biological, but it's harder with different skin colours/countries of origin. Not sure I explained this all that well, but I'm tired.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 02:28 AM
4

I wish I had your optimism, and I hope you are able to keep it
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 02:22 AM
4

If I ever have kids, I'm making sure the mother's not feminist for a number of reasons, but the main one is that intelligence is hereditary and I don't want to be burdened with intellectually castrating my kids through my choice of the mother as a feminist retard.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 01:08 AM
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It's the wedding not the marriage. The wedding feeds her solipsism, her snowflake syndrome and her craving for validation to bursting point, but when the glut is over and she starts having to wipe babies' arses all day, suddenly she's made a mistake and needs to go find herself on the end of an alpha dick.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 01:04 AM
2

If you coincidentally get a text while you're with the chick, just read it, type out a quick response and send it. She'll want to know what's going on, who it was etc. and even if she doesn't ask you the hamster will start spinning. Sometimes I feel like women can sniff these things out.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 01:01 AM
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Depends on the guy. I'd simply not be attracted if I knew she's cheated on me, and not enjoy it much/at all. But yeah, if you're not as bothered, no sense letting an opportunity go to waste.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 12:56 AM
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Yeah, I agree. Sadly for a lot of (BP) people they can't tell the difference between Marriage 1.0, Marriage in the media, and Marriage 2.0 and get divorce raped for it.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 09:56 PM
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One of the main problems in the Western world is that a standard marriage and a 'standard marriage' in pop culture have basically nothing to do with each other
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 09:16 PM
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I agree, you're probably right. There's a lot of Disney because many of us have been this guy. But that makes us empathise with him and want to help, even though it's a bad idea and probably won't work. A friend of mine unplugged me, and I'll always be grateful to him for it.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 09:15 PM
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This isn't my first account on TRP, I've deleted 2 now so far when I realised I'd accidentally dropped a few hints as to my identity IRL. And I agree that women with less than perfect lives can still be whores etc., but (assuming the OP is telling the truth) sleeping with 4 men by age 22 is very little, and wanting an LTR is exactly what RPW encourages women to do.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 09:09 PM
1

Just walk up to them and start talking whenever you see them. If you really don't give a fuck then no-one will hassle you over it, or if they do you don't care. And if you get into the 'in-crowd' or whatever you want to call it then you'll start getting invited to parties too.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 10:48 AM
2

Reminds me of a great post a while back about plowing your value into women via your dick, but I can't find it atm
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 02:11 AM
4

Reading through your posts, it seems like you're still deep in the anger phase. The thing is, this woman looks to have had a poor life so far, and while I'm not advocating white-knighting, we shouldn't dump all over everyone with a less than ideal life just because they have a vagina.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 02:09 AM
3

As a 19-year-old, I'd be interested too. I think more perspectives from people currently in full-time education (school/university) would be valuable as well.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 02:05 AM
4

I've heard it referred to as a 'fuck you' fund. If you have a fuck you fund, you can live off it long enough that if your job is really bad you can say 'fuck you' and leave.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 02:04 AM
1

Change every instance of 'woman' to 'man' and watch the hamster spin. Surely if we are in such a liberated society, he couldn't possibly argue men can cheat but women can't? /s (if there's one thing I've learnt, it's that the hamster can rationalise everything)
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 01:47 AM
1

OP says he used condoms even though she said she had an IUD. I think she saw him as BB and was getting AF on the side.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 08:51 PM
2

Anti-semitism is just a specific form of racism, which held evolutionary advantages - your tribe would have more of your own DNA in it, so by denying and trying to outcompete other tribes you would gain an advantage. The jews were simply in the unfortunate position that they were foreigners everywhere. That doesn't mean that racism is something good, just that it used to be an advantageous trait. And understanding that this is where racism comes from is important in countering it nowadays.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 11:55 PM
2

Does it really need proving? In an internet debate, yes. If you are just shifting the burden of proof it's safe to assume you're talking rubbish, or at least have little to no evidence to back yourself up.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 11:52 PM
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microaggressions trigger me hard, I demand we go back to macroagressions! check your privilege, you shitlord /s
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 11:46 PM
5

The hottest, greatest, most successful PUA in the whole world cannot make the same claim. He probably could, but it would be trash he ends up with, despite all his practice and preparation (think a 10 with a 4). Whereas a slut can guarantee someone within 1-2 points of her SMV just by spreading her legs.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 08:11 PM
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This seems to hit the nail on the head for me. Camgirls probably aren't going to start, then after a few months be like "I've finally got a decent job elsewhere, so I'll quit and sort my life out".
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 08:07 PM
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What would make you happiest? Do that. Simple. [Obviously, take the consequences into account. Don't do stupid shit that gets you thrown into jail, and don't randomly be a dick to other people unless you enjoy their raging]
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 08:04 PM
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Everyone does this to some extent. ( http://lesswrong.com/lw/hz/correspondence_bias/ ) Basically, it's really difficult to make a model of someone so you can interact with them if you don't do this, but it's important to later be able to separate actions from traits.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:56 PM
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why then does the concept vary so greatly across cultures? So you agree it exists across all cultures? The reason it varies is because of birth control and feminism. Since the introduction of condoms and the pill, it's trivial for a woman to sleep with 20 men and not end up living in poverty with a dozen kids. Virginity was prized so that a husband could be sure any kids the woman has are hers. On the other hand, a woman doesn't gain an evolutionary advantage from knowing who the father of her c…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:47 PM
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I only just realised this myself, because it's based on a female perception of SMV. Essentially, she blames being single on factors other than SMV so that her relative SMV appears higher, but it doesn't work because preselection is a lot less effective on men, and in some contexts is even detrimental.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:39 PM
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I think it reads like OP simply misplayed at the very end of the night. Someone got a hold of the 8.5 when she was already horny and drunk, and OP failed to prevent it because he misjudged how DTF she was.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:37 PM
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This is a high quality FR considering it's your first, and I look forward to seeing more. The real success story wasn't that you almost got the HB8.5, it's that you learnt a lot from the experience.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:35 PM
1

In context, I can kinda see the last one happening (e.g. it's a plate who's into rough play and you've done this kind of stuff before), but seriously that's bad advice all round. You shouldn't ever ask for sexual stuff, it's a massive sign of low SMV, and obviously you shouldn't rape anyone either.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:31 PM
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Let's be honest, what are the odds that any snowflake is going to read that article and think anything other than "That's great advice for all those other women who aren't special and unique!"
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:26 PM
3

She doesn't even have to lie. No fault divorce, and in some countries/states even if she cheats on you she still gets paid in the divorce. What a fucked up world, eh?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 06:24 PM
1

I believe men generally have the same emotional and commitment needs as women, taken as a population as a whole. And that's where I differ, along with the rest of TRP. I don't think men and women want the same things out of a relationship, and I think that nowadays men are shamed out of admitting it. I'm not sure if you are/have been in an LTR before, but if you were, were there any fantasies you had that you would have liked to act out? Anal, dressing up, anything along those lines? And do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 04:52 PM
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Fair enough, but I personally feel good when I see others succeed, as long as it isn't at my own expense. That's why I would prefer for the game to be set up so more people succeed.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 04:49 PM
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As soon as she wanted to go swinging he should have divorced her. At the point that your wife tells you she'd rather have a different guy's dick in her, it's over anyway and you just have to decide if you want to share a house for a while longer while she gets ploughed by an alpha cock.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 04:47 PM
2

I'm trying to be open-minded, but I'd be very interested to see numbers that are adjusted for poverty. I'd not be surprised if the average IQ of white trash were around 80, for example. Context is key.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 03:29 PM
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Red Pill never deals in absolutes. There are exceptions to every rule, but we ignore those that are statistically insignificant. That said, AMALT, not that I've personally encountered it, would probably be mostly posted by newer members who are still in the anger phase. Also, some of those quotes you posted seem out of context. I agree that in general "men don't want commitment [as much as women do]". I've never seen the word 'multigynous' used on TRP before either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:26 PM
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While I agree, the problem with the game is that it's set up so that most people fail, where instead it could be set up so that more people succeed. As in, it could be better for everyone, and I have enough empathy that I'd like that (that's not meant as an insult, just that there are also some DT guys on here who wouldn't give a shit either way).
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 03:23 PM
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The best part is that none of what he says is offensive. Basically, 20 y/os are going to get roles for 20 y/os and 50 y/os are going to get roles for 50 y/os. And men and women are more likely to watch a romance between a 20 y/o woman and 40 y/o man than the other way round, because that's the way the world works. Welcome to the 21st century, where stating the facts is enough to get a shitstorm of controversy from feminists.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 03:21 PM
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I don't get why so many people disagree with your personal taste.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 01:12 AM
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Divorce laws change from state to state (within the US) and even more in other countries, so it's hard to come to a consensus. But even just within the US, it's really hard to safely do unless you have a complicated and expensive workaround, and/or someone you trust implicitly (like a parent).
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 01:10 AM
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This post finally got me out of the anger phase. For quite a while, whenever I thought of the shit women pull, I blamed them. After all, they had brought it on themselves. But seeing this, it's really not the fault of women, or of men. This man in particular is very pathetic, and while it's easy to excuse him as 'he was just raised that way', it doesn't mean that he's any less - or more for that matter - to blame than a woman. I've been holding a double standard, and blaming half of the players,…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 12:52 AM
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Great post! This is the reason that after first swallowing the pill, I was still very happy to be a guy (not in a trans way, just in terms of what life is like). Women have all these advantages, but then they get taken away after less than half their average lifetime, and there's no good way to get them back. On the other hand, as a guy, I can always improve myself and essentially don't have an expiration date, unlike women. It's almost enough to make me pity them, if only there weren't so many …
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 06:29 PM
1

This is imo the best response in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:41 AM
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Short answer: yes. Long answer: men look mostly for youth & beauty, and most of a woman's beauty comes from her youth - nice skin for example. Women are more interested in a man as either alpha fux, in which case looks are almost as important as for women, or as beta bux, in which case looks aren't important anywhere near as much as for either alpha fux or women. Also, men can compensate for a lack of looks by being better in other departments, while women have a much harder time and can't affec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:01 AM
1

Doctors = BB nowadays, so she will want to wait because "you're different from other men".
/r/TheRedPill02/01/15 10:49 PM
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From elsewhere on this post, OP opened with Look at her, reach out your hand palm facing up, "You. Come here," put your arm around her. There were girls I talked to last night who liked me and some who did not. It didn't matter. That technique worked on every girl last night. I'm not claiming it's foolproof, but it's damn close.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/15 08:59 PM
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That's not a red pill belief at all. What gave you that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:42 PM
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I think this is a good idea, but it belongs on /r/RedPillBooks Edit: There is already a book club on there http://www.reddit.com/r/redpillbooks/comments/2pk8qi/we_are_starting_a_book_club_post_here_if_you/
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:44 PM
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"why are you ignoring me" is a classic shit test, so the usual strategies of A&A or deflecting/flipping are the best responses. Read more about shit tests for more indepth stuff, but basically don't take it too seriously.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:36 PM
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With regards only to You're a man. Act like a Man The difference between this and using shaming to manipulate people is that he's not telling us what a Man is. I know what 'Man' means to me, and I'm going to damn well do my best to become and stay that.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:32 PM
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I think we are operating under different assumptions, so I'm going to state mine and then if you still think there are some disagreements I can more easily figure out why. 1) Just because I have not defined the whole scale doesn't mean there isn't a definition for each point on the scale. 2) My post is only from a man's perspective when looking for women, as I'm a guy. Women have different priorities and signs they look for to show high value in men. 3) Not all RP men agree with each other on ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 10:55 PM
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"Amoral" just means that techniques don't inherently have good or bad effects. You still have to deal with the consequences of your actions, which in this case aren't even unlikely or hard to predict. Regardless of anything else, it was stupid of the professor. He broke the extremely important rule "don't shit where you eat"
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 09:51 PM
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Here's what you need to hear: The most important skill is discipline. You do something for a long time, even when you don't want to, and you will become good at it. You are scared of being ugly? Get a good haircut. Then go lift. Then go browse /r/malefashionadvice and buy non-shitty clothes. You are scared of being lonely? Go and fucking talk to people. Anyone and everyone. Tomorrow, go to anywhere with several shops and talk to the first person you see who isn't on the phone or rushing somewher…
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 09:44 PM
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I've always considered this as an encouragement to use something like a Xanatos Gambit ( http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit ). Basically, make every possible outcome of a situation be something that can be turned into a positive for yourself. This makes it impossible to predict what you will do, and you can avoid having to take a particular approach when your plans come to fruition, which might otherwise block a different move you are making. Example because I suck at expla…
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 09:31 PM
2

Maybe I'm not representative, as you said, but I don't think many people who have a ONS would not care about the attractiveness of their partner. Availability is more important, of course, but given two identical women where one is more attractive to me, I would pick the more attractive one every time. And since for a ONS non-sexual attributes aren't relevant, I go only by attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 09:21 PM
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5 means "someone I would barely have sex with". 1 means "horribly disfigured and makes you very uncomfortable to simply look at". This is not the same as 4, which is "just below fuckable". The reason this part of the scale is not mentioned often is because most people won't pay much attention to 1-4's while they are trying to get laid. 9 means "practically perfect" 10 means "practically perfect and is your preferred type" (e.g. brunettes, tall girls, small handed girls, asian girls or whatever).…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 09:17 PM
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I agree with you but I think you misunderstand a little. AWALT, which I assume you're referring to, says that all women have the capacity to do shitty things. This might seem obvious to you, but I and many people I know were raised to believe that the sun shines out of a woman's every orifice. For me at least, it was necessary to be told repeatedly that "women aren't flat-out better than men, and in many ways men have an edge".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 07:22 PM
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They generally mean different things, though. For men, "She's being distant" means she's withholding sex. For women, "He's being distant" means withholding validation/attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 01:50 PM
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Quite a sensible response, I think. I agree that while being a sex worker sends up red flags galore, if you know that a specific sex worker doesn't have them, it's not as much of an issue. That said, for me it would still be a dealbreaker for an LTR+
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 01:45 PM
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Depends on what I'm looking for. For a ONS I want the best-looking woman I can get, but for an LTR I prefer someone interesting. And besides, most women from 18-30 can easily be 6+ if they simply aren't fat and have decent make-up and clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 01:41 PM
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AWALT says that there are no unicorns, and that there is never a guarantee that a woman won't divorce you because of feels or do other stupid shit. It doesn't say she will, just that there is no way to prove she won't. It's a warning rather than an absolute law. That's why we also have NAWALT. NAWALT says that there are always women that don't fuck you over, but AWALT says you can't definitively find them.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 12:56 AM
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They want to be used and dumped. They are in an environment where that is the likely outcome, and act in a way that no-one with any selfrespect would want an LTR with them. The whole concept of the CC is that when sluts ride it, they don't expect more than some alpha cock for the night, so by supplying it you make them and yourself happy.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 12:54 AM
1

While I agree that the part you highlighted is rubbish, that doesn't mean there is no salvageable content. I think the analysis of other nationalities is very interesting and fairly accurate.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 12:52 AM
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Don't just post a link, the mods might delete it. Add a brief description at least. And please don't link to the mobile version of the news site. But seriously, her boyfriend's balls must have crept back up into his body to let his LTR do this.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 10:57 PM
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Mystery tends to do better than boasting in most cases, in my experience. As soon as you say "six-figure revenue stream" or "still live with my mum" the mystery is gone, and while it's better to be considered the former than the latter, not directly answering is a good way of feeding the hamster.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 10:00 PM
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The key thing is that I could rewrite your entire post to be about mothers instead of fathers and feminists would collectively lose their shit. And I don't think that you can replace one parent with the state. Single mothers tend to have more criminal children, who are more likely to divorce and repeat the cycle (although it's only a correlation), so that alone is enough for me to doubt the official line 'fathers are easily replaced'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 08:26 PM
2

The same reason that I am happy with my tax money going to schools, even though I'm out of education and don't have kids: I don't like living in a country full of stupid people. (The joke part is from some comedian or other)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 07:57 PM
2

I'm not sure about how the legal aspects work, but I know in some countries (Germany for example) getting married has two parts - the legal part at the registrar's office, and the religious ceremony at the church. You could possibly even have the ceremony, dress, rings etc. if you wanted without the legal "you get half my shit".
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 07:21 PM
1

Yeah, even though I doubt there are many other bis on here, it's a whole new perspective on women so hopefully there's some new theory or something.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 02:52 AM
1

Being open-minded has become corrupted from what it should be. Ideally, open-mindedness is recognising that just because an idea is unpleasant or makes you feel bad doesn't mean that it's incorrect, and that new ideas can and will often replace older ones. It shouldn't mean that you need to exhaustively prove to someone that vaccines prove autism and then still "respect their right to be completely fucking wrong and help spread easily preventable diseases", as an example that makes me especially…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 04:49 PM
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Welcome to the media in 2014. As long as muh patricarchy is the target, you can say any shit you want and get taken seriously.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 04:43 PM
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Wanna offer a rebuttal instead of just shaking your head sadly? I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with you, but just because it's easy to discard ideas because they are completely outside your frame of reference doesn't mean you should.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 04:30 PM
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I remember reading a post a while back that boiled down to 'Whatever your gf/wife/plate says, preface it with "Right now I feel like..." and it becomes accurate'. So basically if she says "I'll love you forever", she means "Right now I feel like I'll love you forever".
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 02:30 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn6gV2sdl38 encapsulates it perfectly. (Tim Minchin - If I didn't have you)
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 02:28 PM
1

Get some sperm frozen beforehand. You can already do it with vasectomies, and then if you change your mind later you can still have kids that are genetically yours even if you don't impregnate the woman directly.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 02:24 PM
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Think about how stupid the average guy is. Now, half of people are stupider than that - George Carlin
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 02:19 PM
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If it won't happen in a feminist country, I predict a lot of men taking a holiday to some 3rd world shithole just to get the injection/pill. I'd do it for sure, just to avoid any 'oopsies'.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 02:17 PM
5

I don't really know what countries that are English-speaking have a decent legal system for rape claims and other gender-biased shit in the West. Are there even any at all?
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 05:56 PM
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A fucked up anti-male 'diversity' justice system. Don't emigrate there.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 05:37 PM
2

Alpha and beta are traits, not names for types of people. Most people have a mixture of traits - pure betas would probably not last a day in the real world, while pure alphas would go to jail. Even Dark Triad types are not pure alpha, although they're closer than even the average Red Pill guy.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 01:12 AM
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Fair enough, I think we've reached a point where we have to agree to disagree. Thanks for the discussion though, I've learned a lot about the counterarguments to my decisions, even if I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:58 AM
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That's a really interesting point, but I think it actually supports my argument. In countries where people can legitimately starve to death if they don't have enough food, and that are not as feminist at all levels of society as here in the west, there are actually more women in STEM than here where it's easier for them to choose what they want to do. I can't think of an alternate explanation that makes as much sense as women simply not wanting to do STEM if they have other, better alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:57 AM
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The reason this sub has both AWALT and NAWALT ([Not] All Women Are Like That) as acronyms is because it is both the case that every woman could be like that at the drop of a hat, with no forewarning, and that not every woman will be like that. I can guarantee that some of the FIRE women will have an "Oops, I'm pregnant" moment, but it's unlikely they'd still post on the online FIRE forums or if they do, they wouldn't mention it. AWALT says that no matter what, you should make sure that when your…
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 12:07 AM
1

I conflated 'hate' and 'despise', I guess. Nevertheless, I don't despise people for their gender. I'm not interested in relationships with men, so I put my penis in women instead, and I doubt that's going to change anytime soon. And out of women who I want to put my penis into, none of them are interesting at all for anything else. Correlation =/= causation, of course, but it's still the case that TRP has so far predicted everything perfectly for me - successes as well as defeats. So from that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:52 AM
1

I don't hate all women or anything like that. It's just that in the age range and layer of society I'm in, the majority of them bore me because they simply have nothing that makes them more interesting than their looks - and believe me, I've tried to peer under the surface but there's nothing there. I'm looking for physical gratification because I can't find physical and mental gratification in the same package, and TRP is very good at netting me physically attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 03:28 PM
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The worst country for (lack of) national pride is Germany. There's a reason they like football so much - if they wave their flag around for any other reason all the European countries flinch and accuse them of reverting to Nazis. They still own all of the EU though, although why Germany wants it is beyond me.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 02:26 PM
2

This is a very interesting take on oneitis, and meshes really well with accepted RP ideas like abundance mentality countering oneitis and why more experienced RP men don't tend to have it. I hope we'll eventually find some evidence one way or another, because I already suspect which way it will go.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 01:12 AM
1

I think you might be conflating two different trends here. Even if all self-destructive behaviour feels good and temporarily removes the effects of deeper problems, that doesn't mean that anything that feels good and removes existing problems is self-destructive. Going by that logic would otherwise dictate that for example eating is destructive - it's nice to eat good food, and it gets rid of hunger for the moment. I'd argue that most things are self-destructive in excess - food, alcohol, and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:48 PM
1

That makes sense given a few assumptions. I haven't met any other TRP folks irl, so I can't say what they're like, and I obviously can't give an unbiased account of my own life, but I think the main assumption that you make that's not necessarily true is that sex has to be more than physical. Also, while I might in the future be interested in LTR and even change my mind on having kids, I don't plan on ever getting married purely due to the legalities in western countries at the moment. If I foun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:24 PM
1

I don't fully understand your last sentence, and it seems like the main bone of contention between us. Could you elaborate? (Note: I am willing to be proven wrong on this point, if you are persuasive enough. I don't think that I currently have a perfect understanding, and the only way to improve my ideas about the world is to update them with new information)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:28 PM
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Pissing people off is what this post is asking about: "Bluepillers: are you bothered by the existence of TRP?" is in the title, after all. And while I agree that it's easy to offend people, I still don't understand why TRP is so much more offensive than dead babies, which I personally find worse. It might just be another case of the reddit hivemind, but if you know of another possible cause I'd be interested to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:00 PM
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But they're all special snowflakes! You can't just judge them, you don't know their story about being a strong woman and defying the patriarchy by taking up space all those nasty leg-spreading men would abuse! /s
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 11:17 AM
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That sounds fair, I think. But yeah, the real problem we should (and are) tackling is the original sexism, and I think - although I don't have hard stats on this - that in the US and UK at least we are mostly finished with the overt 'women can't do maths hur dur' stuff. A little bit of affirmative action to take care of the rest sounds fine as well. Mostly I guess I'm against the underlying goal of 'at least 50% of maths students (or whatever subject) should be women' because if we really wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:55 AM
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I see, that makes sense. I hadn't considered it that way. The way you describe it I would agree with affirmative action, as the theory seems sound. But I still think that affirmative action is flawed in reality, because the way it is treated nowadays is if everyone in classroom B didn't revise as much as everyone in classroom A, and the marks were still adjusted to be the same. We don't have a reference point for how large a factor the discrimination provides, and until we have that your analogy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:10 AM
1

Thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent reply. I can see how, as I've been quite desensitised to dark humour and related material, I missed how potentially abhorrent it could seem to people who aren't used to it. I guess I just objected to the humour being evidence of woman-hating. To be fair, there are at least some TRP members who do hate women, and probably a higher proportion than the general population, but the vast majority of us don't. For me, it's just a way of describing how and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:00 AM
2

If TRP isn't that special, why does TBP exist and why is there a bigger anti-TRP circlejerk (we win every 'worst subreddit' contest, after all) than there is against the subreddits where you can watch people die or see dead babies? There's a sub devoted to beating your wife, but our (from your point of view) psycological abuse or whatever it is you think we do is really getting people's goat in a way no other subreddit manages. Why? I'm genuinely curious what your explanation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:45 AM
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I obviously can't speak for all of TRP, but for me women are just as much a collection of body parts as they make themselves. I've had friends who are women, but not many, because while I have a range of interests they are rather niche and when I've asked 20 men and 10 women if they're interested, 5 men were and 1 woman was. I would honestly prefer if there was an attractive woman with similar interests to me out there, but I can only seem to find 'AWALT women'. When someone tells me their hobbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:38 AM
1

To play devil's advocate, jokes about pushing women down stairs etc. are, while obviously offensive, still jokes. I've seen some rather disgusting things online, and jokes like that - while in poor taste - are either not extreme enough or rare enough that I don't remember a single one from browsing TRP (or anywhere else in particular). If humour like that offends you, there's a whole sub called /r/imgoingtohellforthis that has partially much worse humour (the alltime highest post has jokes about…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:27 AM
1

The sad truth is, from a man studying a 'traditional' science with a school background of maths and computers, that there are very few women interested in these disciplines. I don't believe that the vast discrepancy between men and women in my various classes happened only because of societal structures, simply because there would have to be at least a few women who were determined enough to study this stuff in the face of adversity. A higher proportion of boys took textiles as an optional study…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:14 AM
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Fun fact for the last one: I'd encourage everyone, when first told by their wife that she's pregnant to claim that you're infertile and watch her reaction carefully. If she's genuinely confused, burst out laughing and tell her it's a joke. If she looks shocked, guilty, scared etc. then at the very least demand a paternity test. Even if you trust your wife and don't think it's necessary, follow the old adage: trust but verify.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:01 AM
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The key word is 'consensus'. On public forums like reddit, there's a collective consciousness (e.g. the famed reddit hivemind) that you can see in upvote and downvote patterns. Looking at highly-upvoted posts on /r/TheRedPill tells you that the community consensus thinks this is red pill, while downvoted posts are not. Obviously, ECs and mods will have more sway, but that's because they've earned it. The EC flair makes posts get more attention, and so the upvote/downvote pattern is more pronounc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:53 AM
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It is nice for the woman. That's why they surround themselves with men who put them on the pedestal - it's a source of validation. But at the same time, the men who validate women tend to be of a lower SMV than the woman they pedestalize. And the act of putting someone on a pedestal raises them above you. While it's nice to have subordinates in a business setting flatter you and agree with your ideas, it has much less weight than an equal or even superior in the company. This is why women aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:41 AM
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Give me hard statistics on more BP mentioning sources and I'll happily accept it, but right now you are not sourcing your claims either (oh the irony). This is not a personal attack, just an observation. And I'd like to point out that 'close-mindedness' is always subjective, but that I originally read TRP and wanted to have it refuted. I'd guess I'm not the only person on TRP who would prefer for the world to be BP, but since I can't control that I would rather face what I think is true (Red Pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:29 AM
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I'm referring to the fact that PUAs focus on learning pick-up, hence the name pick-up artist, while TRP focuses more on improving yourself for yourself. Negs are a good way to lower someone's perception of their own SMV so it falls to their perception of your SMV, or even lower, so if your SMV is low you can use this instead of improving. At least that's the way I understand it. And since PUAs use pick-up techniques more than improving themselves, and negging is a technique that is good for deal…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 03:22 AM
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This shit is why when feminists demand equality we laugh and say "That's nice honey". They are the oldest teenager in the house, and act like it.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 03:13 AM
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I saw a line in a post here a while back: Preface everything women say with "Right now I feel like". "Right now I feel like we're not having sex tonight" is basically an invitation to change her mind, the way I read your FR.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 01:24 AM
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Is it a light slap on the arm "asshole" giggle hit? That's a good sign that she's interested, since she's basically initiating kino. But if what she said came across more as a threat, you'd probably better back off.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 01:20 AM
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So it basically boils down to PUAs tending to have low SMV, because they don't self-improve, and that's why they neg so much. That makes a lot of sense, I'd never considered it that way before.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 10:41 AM
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"due to" is correct in this context, but I agree with "tenets" (source - native english speaker)
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 10:33 AM
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I've often heard it called the "I want to speak to the manager" haircut. Women who look like that are much more likely to be bitches.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 04:13 AM
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I agree that you should never invest a lot in a first date. But apart from avoiding freeloaders, it's also a reflection of abundance mentality if you don't really care that much about an individual girl.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:47 PM
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What you're describing - not being interested in pussy, not having 'get laid' as a goal - sounds like MGTOW. Standard Red Pill is to go for pussy if you want it because you want it and you fucking deserve it. You can be a sex-crazy lunatic and as long as you don't pedestalize the pussy, or even worse, a specific pussy, you'll be fine.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 09:11 PM
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If you look at the num pad, you start at 1, circle around clockwise then go 2 -> 5 -> 8 and circle around anti-clockwise
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 03:10 PM
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That's a really bad idea. It just takes one sjw getting in to dox everyone if you start talking about your offline identity.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 09:16 PM
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There's one quote in particular that impressed me a lot: "It's not that he wasn't taking me seriously. It's that he wasn't taking me too seriously." The difference between these two similar reactions is something I didn't understand properly for quite a while after first finding this subreddit, but it's really important to strike a balance when you use humour. Basically, this is a very accurate, albeit short, description of Amused Mastery. The context it's described in makes it clear he's passin…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 03:28 AM
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Why would you want a hoe who cheats and then lies about it? A key part of TRP strategy is abundance theory and self-respect, and you should consider yourself better than her.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 05:20 AM
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Because they're a growing segment of young women, and if you can identify them they are an easy lay. BUT you also want to be able to avoid them for LTRs. So it makes sense that we try to find out what identifying features they have.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 11:22 PM
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This looks really fun. With regards to 'Squirrel Chase', a few years ago I was lost in a suburban residential area, in bright fucking orange running gear. I thought I was in a dead end when I saw a woman walk out of her house down a narrow passage I'd missed, that went in the direction I was going. Now, I was 15 at the time, in bright orange running gear (I keep coming back to this because I looked ridiculous and about as threatening as a quadriplegic baby), and started jogging that way. This wa…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 11:33 AM
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