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Neediness is socially viewed as femenine. Women find non needy men to be more attractive. Congruence is important, not just confidence.
/r/seduction08/05/21 04:37 AM
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Thank you. Please understand that seduction isn't tricking women into being with you, but learning how to become a better self and learning how to present that self to women in the best way possible, in such manner that they can make a decision whether or not they're interested in you (what Manson calls "polarizing"). Those who don't make time for you are not worth pursuing.
/r/seduction02/05/21 05:12 PM
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A few years ago I was with a friend at a bar grabbing a couple of drinks. He spotted 3 cute european girls who were visiting DC, so we approached them and just started to talk. You could see the interaction was fun and they were interested. I honestly wasn't expecting anything out of it so I didn't try. Then some guy in a suit came with his shy friend and said something like "hey, what's up? You know, Obama is my friend and gave me this", showing a 5 dollar bill. It was r/sadcringe with a bit of…
/r/seduction17/03/21 12:33 AM
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I've said this before: Learn salsa dancing - take classes You're welcome
/r/seduction17/02/21 06:27 PM
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I think you're right. Sometimes seduction tips are so white and black. I did this for a while and I'll say you are right on your approach to diversity in women's interests
/r/seduction09/01/21 08:11 PM
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What if I had strabismus
/r/seduction19/11/20 12:12 AM
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We do live in more "superficial times" now. Everything is one click away, everything is short term. But I don't see how young people wanting short term relationships is bad. It's ok to have experiences, meet new people, live adventures. Why not?
/r/seduction08/11/20 12:54 AM
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Thank you. Why waste time with someone who isn't enthusiastic about meeting you? You will find a really cute girl who will be so eager to go out with you just keep looking
/r/seduction08/11/20 12:35 AM
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EMERGENCY BULLETIN!!!! If you actually read the post and my comments, you'll find what I mean when I say "Friendzone" ​ cheers
/r/seduction04/11/20 12:17 AM
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Hold up my man! Just because you are on the spectrum does not mean you are low-value. Pardon my ignorance, but I believe there must be something you are good at -something you actually enjoy doing. Will not bullshit you though, life isn't fair for everyone, but there must be something that you can do to improve -to be a better self. A better human being. Do you know RSD Tyler? As far as I understand he's got some degree of autism. He's talked about it before, and how he overcame his fear/anxiety…
/r/seduction03/11/20 05:36 AM
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Amazed by how this sub has filled with self pitty and negativism by looking at other comments. Be yourself works when you are always aiming to become your best version. The point is to unlock your honest, true confidence to get the love you want.
/r/seduction03/11/20 03:27 AM
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I really appreciate your comment. I don't know Buddhism as you do, but I do agree with the 4 noble truth and try to not pursue happiness itself, but rater choose the problems I love solving, and thus happiness is a byproduct of such endeavor. I see what you are saying about peace -a neverending pursuit of pushing myself, if I understood right. However, I would be lying to my core self if I were to not aim to do the things I love for the sake of becoming better.
/r/seduction03/11/20 12:20 AM
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I agree. My point is: a woman who sees you as dating material may not forever see you as a friend if you aren't available atm. High value is the key and where to aim.
/r/seduction02/11/20 08:01 PM
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I better myself, for me. As a consecuence, women are more attracted to me than before. Self improvement is the key to seduction, and it boils down to putting yourself first. You're missing the point of my post with your story. I am talking about a woman who wants to date a man because she sees he's high value. She's likely to not see him as a friend if he was unavailable. We think that way as well. It's simple.
/r/seduction02/11/20 07:12 PM
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Well, I know the term has been overused and misused. Let's put it in simpler words: a woman who finds you attractive and "datable" will not reject the future chance of being with you, just because you aren't available atm. People do move on, though.
/r/seduction02/11/20 07:05 PM
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This is very true! When you're already past putting beauty as a measure of your own value, you unlock your potential to be happy! My message in this post is to work on yourself, and not think about whether a woman is going to "friendzone" you if you don't do this or that. What I'm talking about here is assuming you WANT to date that woman, but she's not available, would you friendzone her? I don't think so.
/r/seduction02/11/20 04:20 PM
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I guess there's always an exception somewhere
/r/seduction02/11/20 01:38 PM
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This is true, thank you for your POV.
/r/seduction02/11/20 03:07 AM
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Thank you for bringing this up. It's all about the mindset: always aim to become better, but be proud of who you are now. Hey, I like myself. I love who I am. But you know what. About 4 years ago I wondered "can I become better?" So I learned salsa dancing, surfing, I started doing things I loved, I started a business. And I did it all to become better. As a result, I am PROUD of myself, because the best way to show that I love myself is to push myself, to become better. So really, the reason wh…
/r/seduction02/11/20 03:01 AM
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You just asked a great question. But here's a better one: Don't you think you can become better? Rhetorical question: Are you perfect? Of course not, no one is. I believe that the best approach to seduction is to bet on Inner Game, or self improvement. The better you become, the better women you will attract. If you are insecure and needy, and a woman likes you just the way you are, chances are she is insecure as well. You attract what you are. Finally, women like men who look forward into becom…
/r/seduction27/10/20 10:28 PM
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But you're lying to yourself if you don't acknowledge you can improve. It's the polar opposite
/r/seduction27/10/20 06:53 PM
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I just have to say that I agree with the implications of using the word "problems", as it can negatively impact your self. But I do think you can turn it around and call it "improvement". You don't have problems, but things you have to work on or improve. Yes, look in the mirror and acknowledge that you're great! You're (hopefully) healthy and with lots of goals in life. Recognize you're awesome and just need a bit of tweaking.
/r/seduction27/10/20 06:36 PM
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You're an honest man and I respect that. I believe this is true concern for women as well, not exclusive to men. I always say I believe we have phases in our lives. During these phases we may make different kind of decisions and may even act more egoistical. As someone else said, sometimes these phases have a core issue that needs to be resolved and therapy can greatly help. For example, you may have your "I just can't get enough of women, I want to sleep with as many as I can" and that's fine a…
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:53 PM
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The fact that those comments have more than 1 upvote worries me about how this sub has completely oblivious men. It absolutely is whining btw.
/r/seduction11/10/20 10:54 PM
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I mean yeah. I meant at the point he interacted with Dany, in this scene. They fucked up this character. But the main point remains
/r/seduction03/10/20 02:17 PM
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So what? many people start at the bottom. In the end, he was a freaking king. That's the point of seduction. Edit: I know he wasn't a king in the end of the series, but he was at the end of season 6, which is the point of the post.
/r/seduction03/10/20 06:01 AM
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Toxic masculinity actually extends from the archetypes shadows as explained by Jung. It's a broader set of negative behaviors that later Moore expanded and refined in his book "King, Warrior, Magician, Lover". What we know as toxic masculinity is a result of these shadows expressing themselves in a grown adult that were not corrected in some way since the man was a boy (child).
/r/AntiFeminists22/09/20 11:43 PM
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Kino is a key part of all of this
/r/seduction21/09/20 03:18 PM
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Here's the thing. Women will tell you they are ok with that, but truth be told is that they want to see how they vibe with you and how they feel around you. So if you are nervous, there's a chance she finds it sweet. But there's a higher chance of attraction if you are confident (not cocky). So I guess they would understand, but if you want to stand out, you should be confident. And that means practice until it becomes second nature
/r/seduction19/09/20 01:11 AM
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The thing, my man, is that you shouldn't be salty. You have to realize that being salty is being needy. People are busy or lose interest, you know? You probably do it too. So you are not worth it and should be blocked? Let's leave blocking others for not responding to anyone but grown ups :)
/r/seduction15/09/20 03:51 AM
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IMHO blocking looks salty af. I would mute someone, but not block. In direct relation to cases like this one, a friend of mine usually says: "blocking is giving too much importance to the other person, that's why I don't do it".
/r/seduction14/09/20 10:12 PM
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There is no need for "balance". You need to be whole and congruent. You have to be the "bigger man" even if someone is cold to you. I agree with just ignoring them.
/r/seduction14/09/20 01:56 PM
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We gotta actually move on and not have the "revenge" / "tasty justice" mentality IMHO. The way I see it, it's very simple: I would not ignore her to make her feel bad because she ignored me, but because I got better things to do and will not waste my time on someone who doesn't text back. That's why blocking is out of proportions in my opinion. Edit: It's the first time someone gives me an award. Thank you!
/r/seduction14/09/20 01:54 PM
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I hope you're joking. If you're not: that's not the definition of overthinking
/r/seduction09/09/20 02:06 PM
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The thing is that he's just talking about the results, without going through what it takes to be confident. The key is inner game, i.e. work on yourself. The first time you learned to ride a bike, you were hesitant. You were afraid of falling. But once you learned, then you could just grab a bike and go. The same happens with your attitude towards life and women. If you're happy with yourself. You love yourself, exercise, dress well, do the things you love, you'll have better interactions and st…
/r/seduction24/08/20 03:08 PM
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I hope this is actual satire, because it's /r/niceguys worthy
/r/seduction23/08/20 02:28 PM
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Yes, just on the sides of the neck. I don’t do it on my wrists because I would wash off the fragrance in the bathroom - especially now
/r/seduction30/07/20 12:50 AM
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You should always spray on your pulse points (i.e. points that are used to measure your pulse, or that have veins close to your skin). In my case, I spray on the sides of my neck. Also, spray just a bit, because this awesome Blue de Chanel is actually an Eau de Parfum, which means that's stronger and longer-lasting than your usual Eau de Toilette. Trust me, even if you have a weak sense of smell, this fragance is pure gold.
/r/seduction29/07/20 11:41 PM
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Chanel Bleu
/r/seduction29/07/20 06:16 PM
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To be fair, women are generally taught not to pursue and just wait for men to arrive in their lives. Don't feel bad, instead go get what and who you want! Different and positive kind of satisfaction!
/r/seduction25/07/20 08:01 PM
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I have also seen how more people come with detrimental comments about tips and things that have worked. The comments come either from their own experience or some sense of false righteousness. But we have to continue to share what's positive for everyone's wellbeing and personal development, IMHO.
/r/seduction25/07/20 07:59 PM
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Dude I remember one of my first dates and it was absurdly cringey. Like me silent for most of the time. I was like, really bad lol. Later on I got to learn so much. But what I can really tell you is: 1. Please read Models by Mark Manson 2. She didn't sound like an actual quality woman. 3. You will get better! 4. Great job.
/r/seduction14/07/20 05:40 AM
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This is awesome. Thank you. Have you considered 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson?
/r/seduction11/07/20 03:47 PM
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From his pov being vlnerable is opening up. Being bold is taking action. Manson says that vulnerability is not weakness. I agree.
/r/seduction09/07/20 06:20 AM
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You missed the point on neediness. The book tells you that you have not be needy by focusing on yourself. In reality, the core of everything is becoming an interesting man by working on yourself. Neediness is valuing what others think of you more than what you think of yourself, and that's why you polarize. Why go through all of that? Not for the sake of sleeping with women, but because it opens doors for you to your social and professional life. You're a man who knows what he wants, and you nee…
/r/seduction09/07/20 06:17 AM
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THIS
/r/seduction12/06/20 12:34 AM
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Yeah, like a big male bodybuilder.. wait what?
/r/seduction26/05/20 05:38 AM
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I absolutely agree with you that it should be natural. Otherwise it's fake confidence. But if the guy is working on himself and he's not there yet, what other way he's got if he meets a hot woman? We all got insecurities to some degree. We all have things we need to improve. Habits are made from repetition, and you're mostly defined by what you do, more than by what you say. To be honest, during my own path I learned this the hard way. You don't read it, you live it. Now I understand inner game …
/r/seduction04/05/20 02:26 PM
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IMO, "be yourself" is OK when you're your best version. If not, then you can either fake it till you make it, or continue to fail. This guy understood push and pull by exercising it. Let's not give him shit for discovering by doing it.
/r/seduction04/05/20 02:05 PM
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It's psychological energy. It's what your presence and absence transmits to others.
/r/seduction05/04/20 06:59 AM
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This sub is being taken over by haters
/r/seduction01/04/20 06:52 PM
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Thanks for your comment! I hope everyone could see this. I used to have so many similar flaws until I discovered this sub years ago and I read some books and decided to not chase, love myself first and work on my inner game. My world changed completely. Not just women, but work and hobbies, friends, etc. Life in general. Where I used to hang out with toxic women I am now in a healthy relationship. But first I needed to accept that something had to change and realized I was toxic as well. What in…
/r/seduction25/03/20 02:01 PM
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I 100% agree with that. Actually, it's what I discuss the most over here: Inner Game is the most important step.
/r/seduction24/03/20 08:26 PM
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This sub used to be a lot different. At first, I thought it was all fun and games and jokes, but then I saw it actually was whinning. Thanks for your input.
/r/seduction24/03/20 02:28 PM
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When I was first beginning, I thought about the same. About double standards and how injust it is for men to deal with stuff like this. But then I realized there is no point in complaining when the guy next door is overcoming it and just doing something. People deal with different levels of injustice and double standards all the time. Men and women. So deal with it and move one. And persist and win. I used to hate that we had to approach and possibly get rejected. It sucks. But it's the way it i…
/r/seduction16/03/20 07:30 PM
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Some answers here just blow my mind. "If you are handsome, if not, you are creepy". Wtf? The answer is status. This is shown by a man's actions. How he behaves in general and especially around her. Also, there's a component of how she feels around him. It is true that handsome men have a better start, but if you're too easy to figure out, you won't be misterious. In general, being assertive and succint with what you say is what makes you mysterious and what you should do. Read Models.
/r/seduction16/03/20 05:56 PM
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This sounds very nice guy-ey
/r/seduction16/03/20 05:52 PM
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As Manson explains in Models, there are generally 3 possible ways a girl can react to you approaching: warm, cold and neutral. Warm means she is interested. You are her type. This is the example you provide. Cold means she isn't interested. Not matter what you do, she won't like you. Move on. Neutral means you have to polarize quickly to have her fall either under cold or warm. This is what is called "Game": your ability to get neutral women into warm.
/r/seduction06/03/20 08:35 PM
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I've been through this path of self improvement myself, learned seduction, etc the whole 9 yards. My conclusion to all of this is that Manson is right about True and False confidence. And the best way to gain true confidence is by becoming your best version - and that includes talking to people, finding your tribe, etc. Inner game precedes outer game though. You have to become your best version, IMHO. The example you gave of the guy with no job but tons of confidence is a bad one, because that h…
/r/seduction18/02/20 07:22 PM
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Its true. Its all about being confident. But how do you become confident? There are different ways, but the most effective is... working on yourself and improving! Learn skills, workout, have ambition... confidence comes along.
/r/seduction18/02/20 05:32 PM
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The problem isn't that a woman would not love to talk. It's that she does not want to talk to YOU.
/r/seduction09/02/20 12:01 AM
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My thoughts as well.
/r/seduction27/01/20 03:20 AM
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If you put it that way, ofc it sounds horrible, doesn't it? But in a certain way, this is correct: not just women, but people want to feel a challenge. We all want to feel like we are seduced by and into a challenge. By giving her a card, not only did he play a kids' game (the opposite of a man: showing his intent in her face with actual confidence), but he played all his cards to her, he gave up on building mistery, it was all to clear, all too easy. Not that we are whatever you may be thinking…
/r/seduction26/01/20 12:32 PM
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Love this question. I agree with @Bluwafflz. It is a book aimed for men, as its objective is to present a model version of masculinity. However, since the book says that a man should learn certain skills and things to become more interesting, I think that applies to women as well. Inner game is universally useful.
/r/seduction26/01/20 12:24 PM
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How about this: Accept that you made some mistakes, including but not limited to, falling so quickly for her, giving her a card, and possibly acting like a friend. Accept that you need a lot to learn on seduction. Good news is that you are in this sub. I strongly recommend reading Models from Mark Manson. Just go freaking read the book and honestly realize what you are doing wrong. After you get steps 1 and 2 done, come back to this post and do realize how you sound. Not thay we are better or an…
/r/seduction25/01/20 09:09 PM
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Whatever it is, it's not healthy
/r/seduction04/01/20 09:28 PM
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Yes, that whole "friendship" is toxic af. Both of them victimize themselves in their own way. It's a weird balance they've built and it will probably break one day, each one of them, once again, declaring themselves a victim. The girl isn't a saint or is free from toxicity.
/r/seduction04/01/20 05:09 PM
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Interesting and fun story actually. Thanks for sharing. Good thing the guy didn't get violent on you. But I would add that it's not only "don't be like this guy". I would raise a red flag on the girl. There's something odd about the whole interaction. What's with all the drama? Something tells me that you're better off not getting her number anyway. It sounds like she could just end the guy and should have done so a long time ago, but the guy is still there. I say this because when there's one t…
/r/seduction04/01/20 04:54 PM
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Stop faking who you are for women = true However, that is not the point of seduction and that's what this post fails to see. Seduction is about going on learning from inner to outer game. First, inner game is about improving yourself. If you are timid that doesn't mean you can't get laid. The whole point is not to be a casanova, it's to be the best, attractive version of yourself. Become that and you've conquered most of what "the game" is: you speak confident, you act confident. Then, it's the …
/r/seduction02/01/20 05:02 AM
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South America has a similar vibe in the sense that machismo is big enough that women are generally into the "chase". Things have changed in the past years, though. My advice to you would be to take advantage of the fact that cultures like these the polarity between men and women are bigger, thus masculine traits are even more attractive. With this I mean that it is more important to be masculine than anything else, and this is actually desirable anywhere without becoming a misogynist. So work on…
/r/seduction31/12/19 05:04 PM
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Good stuff
/r/seduction27/12/19 04:59 AM
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Amen
/r/seduction23/12/19 07:47 PM
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I see. But I don't think you guys win from this sort of competition. Comparing yourself to other is inevitable, but is not helping you. Fill your mind with positive thoughts
/r/seduction22/12/19 05:47 PM
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You still get lays? Us humans are really funny. Whenever we conquer a mountain, we look after the next bigger one. This is great, but it is dangerous to forget how far you've come. We decide what we give a fuck about. For you, before it was all about getting that first lay. Now your problem is that you don't make it as often as you'd wish. IMHO, the problem is about expectations and the negative vibes you are giving to yourself. Do you think any successful player thinks "I am shit, anyway, let's…
/r/seduction22/12/19 03:56 PM
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I see what you mean and agree with what you've posted. It's actually a great post. It's important to give the right vibes to not shut women down. Women do classify men they're interested in as bf or a fwb. Some women are not looking for bf, but adventure, and some are looking for the opposite. I still suggest a focus on masculinity instead of calling it "Boyfriend" vibes. This is because it can cause people to fall on performance. Also, it again does sound like "you're either fuckable or a suppl…
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:41 PM
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"Boyfriend vibes" seems a bit shown as an opposite of "Player vibes", which is not true. For example you say BF vibes include: Trying to appease her feelings, Trying to prove your worthiness, Supplicating, Seeking her approval, Looking to her to make you feel good, Being permission seeking. This is wrong. I think you are confusing nice guy mentality with BF vibes and, in fact, are missing the point of actually talking about what's important: to be masculine. Or maybe you are using the wrong term…
/r/seduction12/12/19 02:27 PM
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The point is not to be James Bond.
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:15 PM
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I always remember this James Bond Spectre moment *SPOILERS* Madeleine tells bond in the middle of the street that she's not going any further in the mission, so Bond looks at her and says ok. Then Madeleine says sorry and turns around and leaves. Bond is actually into this woman, but just looks at her leaving for 2 seconds, and then turns around and moves on.
/r/seduction11/12/19 06:06 PM
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Chances are, she's been planning on cheating on him for whatever reason. I would advise you not to do this because integrity.
/r/seduction30/11/19 03:05 PM
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Keep going!
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:06 PM
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The NUMBER ONE THING that has helped me is realizing sex isn’t everything. This is a VERY important lesson in seduction. As men, we are wired to spread our seed and want sex. The downside to this is that it just doesn't help in getting sex by itself alone. Congrats with your progress. I think your thought process is exactly what brings women in your life. It's funny, when you have abundance, i.e., when you don't really feel like needing women, or sex, and therefore not being needy, more opportun…
/r/seduction24/09/19 03:53 PM
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My two cents: This works best in night time tbh. First, you need to be good about approaching ONE girl. Approaching a group IMO is easier if you can approach one of the girls (best if the one you like) as you would approach any other girl. Then you'd want to ask her if they are friends from work, or tourists, or celebrating something. Whatever she replies, you can follow up. From work? Where do you work? Do you like your work? What do you find most exciting about your work? Tourists? Where are t…
/r/seduction13/09/19 09:12 PM
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I remember once I approached a girl and started talking, teasing and flirting. At some point she said "just so that you know, I am lesbian" I was like yeeeaaah I don't buy that She laughed and said for real We continued to talk until her "gf" showed up. And I was like nah you are not lesbian Then she proceeded to mouth tongue suck the other girl and I was there looking with my jaw wide open Then we kept talking the 3 of us because honestly I was having a great time.
/r/seduction11/09/19 01:09 AM
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She just literally agreed with me.
/r/seduction13/08/19 09:33 PM
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You don't have to take everything literal. I'm not the girl in question. Perhaps when she says "maybe, I dunno" she means it in a positive way. Keyword here is emotions. "Let's see how he makes me feel when he asks me out"
/r/seduction13/08/19 07:37 PM
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Stud!
/r/seduction17/07/19 06:30 PM
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Yeah. I guess it's how people love seeking for others to look up to.
/r/seduction08/07/19 03:52 PM
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I liked this video. However it did not start answering the question it presents: "Why is Keanu so popular". This video discusses way too much about hand gestures and zen talking. As with seduction, we tend to focus on how to act, instead on who you are. So the video talks a LOT about how Keanu interacts with others. The outer game vs Inner game. ​ The reason Keanu is so loved is because of who he is: the hollywood star who uses the subway, he donates to charity, he stops to help people (this was…
/r/seduction08/07/19 03:49 PM
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lol k
/r/seduction04/04/19 07:44 PM
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It's both parties' decision, true. But in that you have one decision to make when you learn that she has a bf. ​ It's not about who to blame, but doing what's right.
/r/seduction04/04/19 04:24 PM
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It's a matter of principles and personal moral compass, not about being scared.
/r/seduction04/04/19 04:23 PM
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Don't hit on women who are in a relationship.
/r/seduction03/04/19 10:58 PM
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I agree that is a lot easier with what you said. But let's say that you are not in your element. You are hanging out at a bar with friends. Then you see this stunning woman and you really like her. Would you not cold approach? I would. I don't care if I don't succeed. After all, I know what I'm worth and she doesn't. It's her loss if she calls me creepy or whatever. I'll be sure as hell to be with the right energy, well dressed and groomed for every damn night I go out because I know I can stumb…
/r/seduction24/02/19 06:51 PM
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Women want a man who is attractive, not necessarily a "handsome" man. This is not to say they don't like or want handsome men. Being attractive means being fun, have something going on in your life and thus being confident. A female friend of mine was dating this... let's say physically handicapped guy. However he was one of the singers in a popular band. My friend is really cute and yet there she was making excuses of why she was dating him whenever people told her he is "ugly".
/r/seduction24/02/19 05:40 PM
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I don't mean to sound condescending or aggressive either. The truth is that I used to think in a similar way and saw no change. So I changed my attitude and the way I saw these things and I started seeing results. It's like the guy who thinks everyone around them is stupid. At work, all bosses are jerks. That mentality brings you nowhere. If you see value in people you can learn from them. Maybe the extroverted "jerk" can teach you a couple of things about dealing with people. Maybe the introver…
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:11 AM
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Reality is that women also have flaws and are human. Actually, some of these guys take a long time to get a date, and when they do, it's probably because women approach them somehow. That being said, being confident to ask someone out does not mean they are boring or not funny. They're just very introverted. ​ My point is that you're making a mistake by assuming that "most men" out there are not funny and have no value. The fact that they get women somehow infers that they actually do offer some…
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:41 PM
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I never said you are worthless. I said you need to change the way you see those guys (average, not funny, confident, etc.). IMHO you're wrong. There's some value they bring to women that you don't see. ​ Cheers
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:32 PM
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You could look it like that. Honestly, that sounds very nice guy-ish. Everyone wants something and those guys who you think are average might have something or make these women feel in a way that they want to be with them. Just because they don't think like we do, it doesn't mean they are not valuable to them in some way. ​ I think it's best to think how one can become more valuable. Trust me, worthy women start noticing you a lot more.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:51 PM
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Women tend to not want to hurt your feelings when it comes to telling you if you're not sexually attractive to them. You might look like a good prospect but you're missing something that other guys do have. The whole point of this sub is to understand that your inner game is the core of your attractiveness and your sexual confidence is what will make those girls to look at your small dick.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:41 PM
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Your view about most guys not being interesting might be wrong considering that what's more important is that they bring some kind of value to women, and that's why they end up with a girl.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:39 PM
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This. Girls just wanna have fun. And some might have been dragged by their friends to go out or have zero intention of having fun. So why bother? Even if you don't intend to hook up with anyone (which should be the intent), at least it would be cool to just find a girl to have fun with. She could become your friend and she could introduce you to new people. That just doesn't happen with women like the one you described.
/r/seduction03/01/19 09:03 PM
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I understand and agree with the fact that you need to be careful. Hell, I've dated toxic girls as well. What I do not agree with you is with the execution. I don't think flirting with other girls in front of your date is nice or healthy at all. I would not like my (even not exclusive) date to flirt with other guys just to see if I am insane. That's just not ok.
/r/seduction08/11/18 10:03 PM
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>> I good 'shit test' is to try flirting with other girls in front of them before you are exclusive. Even though you are not exclusive, this doesn't sound like a good thing to do even to "sane" girls.
/r/seduction08/11/18 09:15 PM
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This is great. But it should go beyond approaching. Do what you love no matter what others think. This is the foundations of inner game and true confidence.
/r/seduction07/10/18 05:44 PM
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Time away from everything and women, by yourself or with friends. Take a moment to reflect on your life and what you want. Go away for a weekend somewhere quiet. No internet, no noise, no nothing. Your friends should want the same: time to reflect, not hang out or go for a walk/talk.
/r/seduction07/08/18 03:54 AM
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What Pickup boils down to, IMHO, is working on your inner game and get confident enough to say what you want to say, do what you want to do in life, and be fearless about approaching women to show who you are (vulnerability). And then, one day, you'll meet this very attractive woman who's willing to spend time with you because you're awesome. That's it.
/r/seduction10/07/18 07:09 PM
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Do not feed the troll
/r/seduction22/05/18 03:50 AM
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This is true. However if you're starting, you won't have tons of girls. So you have to act like it. Then you'll have them and the snowball will keep rolling by itself.
/r/seduction15/05/18 02:45 AM
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Oh, thanks for clarifying. Maybe I got it wrong. If this is the case, then the trick here is to always assume attraction. You don't really need a woman to look at you to approach her. Just do it. If she rejects you, then move on. I know it sounds really simplistic, but with practice you'll realize that rejection has rarely to do with you as a person. The other thing is that she should get that you're this confident man who has a low level of investment. You'll come off as more attractive if you …
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:03 PM
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Give yourself a deadline to make decisions. I used to have a hard time deciding over simple stuff, but I realized some of them were harder than others. Some things require more time than others. For example, it could be something not-so-simple as buying a surfboard (recently). So I gave myself a week to decide. I looked for recommendations, asked tons of questions online, and then I gave it 3 days to decide. One day I asked myself if I was committed to surfing, and I said yes, so I just did it. …
/r/seduction31/01/18 10:16 PM
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I really recommend Corey Wayne and his book
/r/seduction20/09/17 08:22 PM
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This really hits home with me, and it's true. I started thanking the experiences I've had before and seeing how they have helped me grow as a person and never allow the negative things to happen again. Now I'm free of hatred and welcoming a more mature love into my life :)
/r/seduction23/06/17 02:57 AM
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It really helped me to change some paradigms I had in regards to relationships and dating in general. What I genuinely like about the book is that Manson rejects all the classic False Confidence advice out there that give short-term solutions. Instead, he focuses on self improvement and development, while being honest and vulnerable in your interactions with women. What's the point of posing as someone confident or someone you are not? Performing can get you laid, but having sex with a girl who …
/r/seduction22/03/17 03:56 PM
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It happened to me once at some sub, similar outcome. I didn't get as many downvotes, but downvotes nontheless. People want bullshit themselves with whatever serves them the best. If girls don't want to fuck me, it must be because the world conspires against me, not because I need to do something different. Really stupid indeed.
/r/seduction19/01/17 04:36 PM
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Trim your beard. No need to lose it if it looks good on you. Try different things. Start working out a bit. Reminder: 4 years ago you were mid 16. Game at 15-16 isn't the same as in your 20s, so you want to re-learn (especially after being in a relationship). The fact that you have no AA is great! I think you might have to take care more of your image. Also remember that this is a learning process. You don't deal with AA, so next thing is escalating conversation. Next thing is escalating in kino…
/r/seduction01/12/16 01:42 AM
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When I was single, I used to go out alone a lot. It's quite harder than going with a wingman, but not impossible. The thing about going alone is that you have to be a very high energy dude. Girls are usually in groups. Your job is either be the center of attention at the right times, or separate her from her group. The former is easier with a couple of girls, say 2 or 3. For the latter, I highly recommend befriending the group and becoming part of it. It works.
/r/seduction01/12/16 01:35 AM
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You usually have to be "higher-energy" than him (i.e. more fun, more outgoing, etc.). Also, if you really click with this girl, you can really come up with a topic. Let's say you both like Slipknot. Bring up Slipknot! A concert you went and something awesome that happened. She will be listening to you as the guy just stands there. Get her attention. It could be something as simple as "Oh wow nice spot in your hand" while grabbing her hand (Kino), and then moving on with more kino. Monopolize her…
/r/seduction01/12/16 01:33 AM
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3 cents: Inner game comes first Exercise and hobbies if I haven't started yet Just go out and start approaching
/r/seduction30/11/16 02:41 AM
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Allow me to summarize my thoughts about not showing neediness: stop giving a fuck. Literally. Stop giving a damn about who rejects you. Stop thinking they have to approve you. You are the prize. However, that doesn't mean you have to act like a jerk. On the contrary, you are this awesome dude that everyone wants to hang out with. You know how to show your intentions to women that you like. She doesn't like you back? Move on. There are enough girls out there and you're probably worrying about the…
/r/seduction01/11/16 11:33 PM
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You look great bro. Just unleash that confidence and become your best version (inner game). Read models and learn how to express yourself in an honest way. Women will come along. It's about the journey more than the result. You will learn a lot, I promise! Cheers
/r/seduction01/11/16 11:27 PM
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Two things here: You might seem more confident around girls you are not interested in because you never show neediness, which you may show when you are around those who you are interested in. Think about that to yourself. Understand that even though you can be a nice human being and you are decent looking, it just isn't a compelling reason for someone to like you. This is an honest yet harsh truth, however you also live it yourself: do you think girls you are not interested in aren't decent look…
/r/seduction01/11/16 05:07 AM
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Number 1 way to become better at seduction is beating social anxiety. Number 1 way to beating social anxiety is just going for it, approach and talk. To everyone. At the beginning it will feel horrible until you do it over and over again and you find out it wasn't bad after all. Start from there. Also understand that: You are most probably just as interesting as them, and you could make their day by just approaching, talking and being fun. Anyone who doesn't give you attention or rejects you is …
/r/seduction05/09/16 05:08 PM
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Before getting in a relationship, I used to go out on dates and used the Models approach of honesty. I avoided lying at all because it doesn't make sense to do it for my purpose. What's the point of approaching? Do you want to hook up? Or are you looking for a partner. If it's the former, I guess lying could get you somewhere, however if you are living at your fullest and being your best self, why would you lie? On the other hand, if you are looking for a partner, the answer is pretty obvious. N…
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:59 PM
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We would all know a bit more if we only gave it a try This isn't rocket science. You go get what you want. That's it. You'll get rejected a lot. Then you'll also get numbers, dates and whatnot. On another point, just work a binary code. Are you attracted to the girl? Alright then approach. End of it. I don't agree with your definition of 10's. However good post.
/r/seduction05/09/16 04:56 PM
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This is what being vulnerable is about. Good for you. Women are people, people have bad days or are assholes. Whatever
/r/seduction11/03/16 03:29 AM
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Cool! I also enjoyed the seagull videobombing.
/r/seduction25/02/16 12:49 AM
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Models' take is to not approach a girl that you are not attracted to. If you wouldn't even approach the girl you are talking about, it doesn't make sense to even go out on a date with her. Message her over Facebook and tell her you have changed your mind and that you are not interested. Be honest.
/r/seduction24/02/16 02:06 AM
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How do you actually open the suggestion of listening to music? What music do you listen to?
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:05 PM
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Well done bro! Props to you
/r/seduction16/02/16 04:43 AM
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There is something extremely cringeworthy about this. I can picture a girl giving that look unless she's fairly drunk
/r/seduction14/02/16 05:54 PM
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If you are doing things the same way, the outcome will be the same. So there's something you need to change. Identify what it is. Most probably it's a combination of different factors. Among them, is it the way you dress? Is it the way you communicate your intentions? At what point do you "fail"?
/r/seduction09/02/16 02:16 AM
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IMHO yes, it hits the heart of seduction, which is firstly focusing on yourself and realizing you need to be honest and vulnerable if you want to truly connect with someone. That being said, this book isn't the everything-you'll-need in seduction. I've taken advantage of other resources, such as RSD videos (Tyler is a beast), style videos, this subreddit (beyond helpful), etc. What I noticed that's really common among all these sources is that it really narrows down to focusing in yourself first…
/r/seduction08/02/16 03:41 PM
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Ok need to be more specific about "having fun" indeed. Yes, it means having a great time by yourself. Being charismatic and talking to people. Hey, if you don't feel like it, you might not want to go out that day, but I always like giving a try. I've gotten numbers and friends just by going out. It happens, just move on. It never really gets "horribly wrong". And by that I mean I never get into a real problem or fight. Hey, you're a fun guy to be around! If they "reject" you, then fine, move on.…
/r/seduction08/02/16 06:17 AM
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I was thinking about this, but I think he did good anyways.
/r/seduction07/02/16 07:04 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction07/02/16 07:03 PM
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You just did something cool: asked a girl out. Now you are done with becoming good at that and moved onto the next step: becoming good at dating. Good job
/r/seduction07/02/16 07:02 PM
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I would just go with "ok so give me your number and let's set a date!"
/r/seduction07/02/16 01:59 AM
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I hear ya. I also moved into a new city. I often go to my home town, but it's hard when it comes to doing stuff by yourself at the beginning. Some pro tips: 1) I go out when I feel like it. Have a couple of drinks and have fun. 2) I talk to people who go to the bar. I just toast and cheer with them. It's fun. 3) You see a girl alone somewhere? Or at least with a friend? Just approach and have fun! 4) You won't look weird or loner if you are having a great time. People will actually love to be ar…
/r/seduction06/02/16 01:40 AM
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Great job bro. Thinking about it. It all comes down to trying and asking.
/r/seduction06/02/16 01:36 AM
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Two things here bro: 1) Props to you for approaching! Well done! You did 90% better than anyone else there and you'll see that in time, you WILL get better at it. The Gym is the place to burn fat, whereas approaching is the way to burn anxiety. 2) She has a BF. Her reason to not going out for coffee has nothing to do with you. The only advice I will give you is to not "excuse yourself" for talking to her, i.e. what you said "I don't want to interrupt you for long [...] the gym is not the best pl…
/r/seduction05/02/16 04:20 PM
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I'm siding with /u/dude_wheres_my_cats on this one, for the simple reason that the difference between an FR and telling a story is that an FR should give light on things that worked for you based on the theory we discuss so much here. I do think you did three things well: 1) approached 2) talked about personal things 3) had iniciative. I mean, props to you, I guess you should have asked for her number and found someone to enjoy time with.
/r/seduction05/02/16 03:59 PM
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Not sure why the downvotes, I think the article was good
/r/seduction31/01/16 03:55 PM
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That's the spirit dude. It's time to become a fucking lion.
/r/seduction30/01/16 08:30 PM
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Thank you. Actually a very valid observation and a follow up question: what do I do during these days? I was thinking about texting her on Tuesday reminding of the date.
/r/seduction30/01/16 07:32 AM
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Alright you are right. I'll celebrate with a beer and coffee with that cute girl haha
/r/seduction30/01/16 01:26 AM
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Thanks bro. I strongly believe the best way she'll know whether she likes me or not is by meeting and having a conversation in person, not over texts. But I'm not stopping to celebrate. Tonight I'm going out and getting at least 2 girls' numbers.
/r/seduction30/01/16 01:10 AM
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I'm actually going through a similar experience now. The girl hasn't actually told me "text first, date later". She's said she would like to go out with me twice, also said she's going to be very busy this week after I asked out for the next day. She told me she will let me know when she's got time. I don't feel she's flaking though. Just matched her and she gave me her number. Always replying my texts and seems that we are getting along well. So my strategy right now is to text her once a day, …
/r/seduction28/01/16 03:36 AM
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You might mean "physically attractive men". In that case, you may be confusing the difference between what makes women and men attractive and putting them in the same bag
/r/seduction09/01/16 02:08 AM
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This response was way better than I expected. Thanks!
/r/seduction09/11/15 02:07 PM
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Here's a potentially stupid question: what are some topics you would pull around "talking about sex"?
/r/seduction09/11/15 02:31 AM
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lmao Care to explain where I was mistaken?
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:51 PM
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I'll tell ya a personal experience: Beach, HB8, 2am. A girl with two guys is suddenly left with only one. What to do? Always keep in mind that men are usually very veeeery territorial, so befriend them. So I asked him "yo bro do you have a cig?". He said no, so I went to buy 3 myself. Then I approached him and asked him "yo I bought 3 want one?" Hell yeah so I sat down and started talking with them on the sand. To him first, then a "sup" to the girl, introduce myself and start talking and having…
/r/seduction03/11/15 02:05 AM
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All I'm going to say is that now that I have a full time career, I'm having the best time of my life in dating terms. I'm financially stable and able to ask girls out much more than in college. The thing is working on yourself, opening yourself to knowing people, and have fun.
/r/seduction02/11/15 03:17 AM
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Great progress bro! Keep your feet onto the ground now, be yourself.
/r/seduction16/10/15 02:31 AM
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Same here. Rough 2 months but feeling better :)
/r/seduction12/10/15 04:52 AM
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My thoughts exactly. IMO "I'm thinking of you" isn't much of about having sex with her but sounds cheesy and needy, overly romantic. "Sex is about power" - absolute truth. The minute OP starts feeling bad about not receiving texts, he's losing the game.
/r/seduction05/10/15 10:11 PM
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I had a similar experience. My friends bailed and I just went for it to the bar alone and sat on one of the tables. Around 15 min later the bar was full, and some people came and asked me if they could sit down. I said yes and I had a wonderful night. They invited me 1 shot and 2 beers. Had a blast! You can always go out and have a great time. Just be open and try having fun!
/r/seduction05/10/15 10:02 PM
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Protip: say lol get number ????? Profit
/r/seduction28/06/15 05:40 PM
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Well, to be fair, "dick" isn't the same as saying "penis", just as much as the real equivalent for "vagina" is "cunt"
/r/MensRights25/06/15 05:15 PM
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Nice! Well done
/r/seduction14/06/15 05:45 PM
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Good job man. I like your approach when talking to her, like trying to get her to ask for a song and then moving to your taste in music. Could you elaborate more on the 15 min of flirt action?
/r/seduction14/06/15 12:23 AM
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please read this comment I just did to make it clear how I look at this, in general
/r/seduction17/03/15 07:00 PM
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Pickup is not about attracting every woman, everywhere, all the time. It's about closing the ones who are into you, and swinging some if the maybes your way. I like this and I think you are right. OP does talk about chances. However, something that I think this subreddit is ALSO about is how to improve as a whole: your confidence is a byproduct of you being a more interesting person and knowing it. Becoming a better person, healthier, more successful is going to do more to yourself than followin…
/r/seduction17/03/15 06:39 PM
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Just to clarify, I am not saying that if I see an average looking man with a pretty girl I am going to assume that he's wealthy. I do assume that there must be something in his personality that attracts her. However, let's not be naive here: financial solvency and stability are highly attractive as well.
/r/seduction17/03/15 06:36 PM
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Not rich and famous, but besides being confident, maybe a very stable and promising career with a above-average income?
/r/seduction17/03/15 05:10 PM
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Picture this: Jason Statham walks into a bar, sees some cute girl and decides to go in. He talks to her, but she might be uninterested. Let's say she's uninterested. Not because you are a confident guy means that you are gonna score every single time. So let's say this is one of those girls. Suddenly, one of her girlfriends recognizes him and grabs this girl by the arm and whispers "OMG this is Jason Statham he's a movie actor he's like in tons of action movies". Now guess what would this girl r…
/r/seduction17/03/15 05:05 PM
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"You're beautiful" is a cliche that happens to be a very broad compliment. Personalizing the compliment is key.
/r/seduction05/01/15 03:25 PM
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Spoiler Alert: now he's gonna leave hanging there thinking of him for a few days
/r/seduction05/01/15 03:24 PM
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Well, at least you tried bro
/r/seduction05/01/15 05:05 AM
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This guy's logic: "If I approach a girl and compliment her about her eyes, it would be gay"
/r/seduction05/01/15 05:04 AM
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This sub is also about learning how to choose between your options. The path to being attractive is being able to make decisions as the one you just did. You should feel proud of yourself for making a decision that you considered important, not what possibly everyone else would just because they would do it.
/r/seduction28/12/14 04:12 AM
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During our lives, we are trained to fear rejection, and we fear being unsuccessful. We are taught that risk is bad, so we prefer not dealing with it. We've had negative experiences as well, it's nearly impossible not to have them during at least your puberty. The key is understanding that rejection is fine. It's an everyday thing. It's not the end of the world. Inexperienced people do not really embrace this concept.
/r/seduction24/12/14 10:19 PM
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I agree. Also, if you miss that opportunity, when else will you have another one?
/r/seduction24/12/14 04:57 AM
0

Try being Brad Pitt, that'd work
/r/seduction09/11/14 03:55 PM
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The short answer is no. The long answer is no, you did not play it right.
/r/seduction30/10/14 09:02 PM
2

And this is what humblebragging really is
/r/seduction17/10/14 05:16 PM
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This is awesome. It's not that you got rejected. In fact, rejection is just part of this. It's the fact that 1) You decided to make a difference and went for it 2) You value the fact that even though you got rejected, you gave it a try. You are so over your introverted years. Good for you OP!
/r/seduction02/10/14 04:16 PM
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I look at scarcity in many ways. But in plain, simple terms, it's easy to observe how uneven numbers of M/W play against our chances. I'd love to expand to other situations like the one you mention, which is definitely a good point and makes sense. Thanks for contributing.
/r/seduction21/09/14 03:26 PM
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Thanks! I agree with you on that one, that's why I said "unless you can get their attention". But I also think it's harder... I mean, I've done it (thanks to seddit) and I've had success and the dudes around them dropped their jaws because I went in and gave it a try. It's a numbers game most of the time and it doesn't work all the time, but I'd say it's a lot harder when there are more women than men. Like /u/MacFatty just said, when you make a difference by going in and talking with confidence…
/r/seduction21/09/14 01:09 PM
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lol ok thanks. I changed it a bit again. I initially wrote this before going to bed and was exhausted.
/r/seduction21/09/14 12:47 PM
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PUA isn't "pretending" something you are not. PUA encourages you to become that person by building your confidence. It's not an act.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/14 03:22 PM
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Good for you. There's a difference between "no more mr nice guy" and being a douchebag. I'm not a really douchebag (or at least I don't think I am ha), but neither am I a "nice guy", yet I have a wonderful social and sex life. In any case, my comment was directed to OP's douchebaggy attitude towards a person who was just doing her job. That's it. Let's not make it a big deal.
/r/seduction21/08/14 02:26 PM
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She's probably not doing to make you feel bad. People in sales are people after all, and they have feelings as much as you do. They do it for a living. I'm neither saying "accept her flyer" or buy, but be less rude. That's it.
/r/seduction21/08/14 06:08 AM
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I get your point and applaud your courage to learn when to say no. However about the last bit, I feel like you were more a douchebag than a "guy who says no". I'm not saying that you should have gotten that girl's number or ask her out, but I think you acted in a very douchey way. For the exercise of learning how to stop being afraid of rejection, I guess it did the job I guess.
/r/seduction21/08/14 02:27 AM
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This is actually really interesting and makes sense. I used to do this up to college but stopped now that I'm working. I guess being a bit playful at least does have its advantages. It creates a barrier and air of attractiveness that they usually like. Thanks a lot!
/r/TheRedPill27/07/14 01:42 PM
1

Can you explain "be playful"? Honest question
/r/TheRedPill27/07/14 05:50 AM
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Some time ago in college, I had one of those "fuck it" moments and decided to go to the bar by myself. I usually go with my friends, but that night they all bailed. So I decided to get a drink, and I was sitting at a table listening to the music at the bar. About half an hour later this group of people came by and asked me if they could join in. I said absolutely and they even bought me another beer and a shot. I had a really great time. I think great things happen when you decide to make a chan…
/r/seduction04/07/14 07:02 AM
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Grats bro. That's the spirit. It doesn't have to make you get girls per se, but being a more interesting person, boosting your confidence and having fun. Kudos to you.
/r/seduction01/07/14 06:03 PM
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This. Forever.
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:04 PM
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Well, you didn't REALLY get rejected, bro. I take rejection as a "I am available but I'm not interested in you". In your case, it was more like "I'm not available", the first girl had a boyfriend, the second one was leaving next day. So good job, you have taken a step into overcoming anxiety, and that's awesome.
/r/seduction23/06/14 10:58 PM
2

Nice job bro
/r/seduction15/05/14 12:48 AM
2

Dat math
/r/seduction04/05/14 03:49 PM
2

Rejection is a simple misfortune that accumulates to become a huge satisfaction when you succeed.
/r/seduction03/05/14 07:46 PM
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This is a game. It's not an easy one. If you are tired of doing this and you are giving up, it's completely up to you. Here's some newsflash for you: life is about trying and enjoying the process of living it. If you are not comfortable with certain aspects of it, then stop doing them and do what pleases you. In the meanwhile, we are gonna keep trying, though failing some times, learn from our mistakes, improve and then probably score more than you do with that attitude. Because guess what, not …
/r/seduction03/05/14 07:27 PM
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This, a MILLION times
/r/seduction23/04/14 03:46 AM
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All I'm saying is that he might be losing a great experience, a great lover who happens to be a friend. Oh, he also wrote a wall of text describing his thoughts, the way he sees dating and how different is that from his ex and his platonic friend, so that was useful
/r/seduction05/04/14 03:52 AM
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Not being sure how she's in bed, she's your good friend with whom you share a lot but then don't want anything serious because she's an asset. That could be simpler for both of you, and she might feel used, which is not cool, however you may see yourself, which is good to the point of having a great time all the time with everyone, but now this looks more selfish from your part.
/r/seduction05/04/14 03:50 AM
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Respectuflly speaking, you are overcomplicating things and might be missing a more intimate, awesome experience that could help you to grow a lot more.
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:31 PM
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As a Latin American -and I speak for salsa, merengue, etc- I think the best way to learn is to sign up for a class. As some people have stated, you WILL suck at the beginning, but once you get the idea you'll do fine. Don't try to be SUPER good at it, part of the idea is to have fun. So don't overcomplicate moves, choreographies and stuff. Just have fun.
/r/seduction07/03/14 01:54 AM
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Not only this, but the fact that not every girl on OKC replies creates a weird state of fear of approaching somehow
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:52 PM
1

Awesome. Good luck!
/r/seduction03/02/14 12:29 AM
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That's why I said that you should learn at least how to dance merengue or reggaeton (which are really simple). It's worth the try. On the other hand, I've seen people dancing in these clubs and clearly not doing it so well YET they are having a great time with cute girls. It's worth a try.
/r/seduction02/02/14 08:49 PM
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Looks like you expected an F-close because you payed for the date. That's a bit douchey. On the other hand, the girl seems to have liked you enough to schedule a bit of time to get to know you in a simple first date. Don't really know if she actually has a test or not, but if she didn't, maybe she just wanted an excuse to move slowly with you. Look at the signs: whether or not you had a good time with her, she was a bit hesitant of even kissing you. I don't think she was expecting you to be more…
/r/seduction02/02/14 08:46 PM
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Seddit is about the seduction game. We are not talking about hurting women, but how to approach to get a better chance of having a good conversation and hence a good time. People act, feel and make mistakes, but that doesn't mean you should see women as victims and men as perpretrators, as both sides can hurt, both sides can get hurt. If you ever feel that this subreddit is about doing whatever it takes to fuck women without even caring that we could hurt them, then I guess you have completely m…
/r/seduction26/12/13 02:20 AM
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I think you addressed the single most important thing men struggle with: fear of rejection. Women don't understand how hard it is when it comes to approaching them. I know they hate being hit on all the freaking time, but it's not like getting rejected, it sucks. Confidence is everything, my friends, but also be sure to boost your self esteem. Don't let some lame girl make you feel less.
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