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Once you get past 50-100, I start wondering what’s going on with the person because it sounds like you’re bad at figuring out what you want. It depends a lot on their relationship history overall. That said, if it was more like, “no I was just single for a while and I wanted to be that way and slut it up for that period of my life” then I’d respect it. My exwife was like that and I was fine with it - as long as it’s done respectfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:30 AM
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How high is “hella high” - give a range estimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:28 AM
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Lotta conditionals in there, bub. The reason why men in their 30s avoid women in their 30s is because those conditionals are so rare for women in their 30s. Far easier to get those conditions with women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:25 AM
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Oh, I notice the women who don’t say these things. I ask people directly - it’s not like women come out to me and say they’d abandon a partner for crying. I ask them these questions. Most of the time I ask - they say they’d leave. Women are far more critical of men having emotions than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:53 PM
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Also, a person choosing to grind than stay with you for free isn’t the flex you think it is She thought she could do better - is the point. She couldn't and will never do better. She's struggling to find any men who want her. It wasn't just naivety but also hubris that lead her this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:50 PM
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These stories are the exceptions, not the rule. I wouldn't say that. These are definitely far more common than you think. I also know many women who have openly said that if their partner got depression, cried in front of them, or did other things that they themselves have done - they would likely leave them. This is including women who are married for 10+ years and have children with said person. I really think you're underselling just how prevalent this behavior is and how normalized it is. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:48 PM
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Women who make similar to I do are exceptionally uncommon and tend to want even more money than I have. Very few gals out there are making $500k+/yr and then want a guy who makes the same. Usually they want someone making $2m+/yr and - well - they can demand it because there are as many guys making that as women making what they do. It’s wild but men just work way more and make way more fucking money. So unless you got lucky in college or something - you’re always going to have this huge imbalan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:18 PM
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I expected the same effort. I already cleaned and cooked and did housework more often than she did. You’re a bit stupid if you think I’m not capable of that. It’s joke work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:08 PM
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Buddy, you don’t even have unions in this country. You think somehow men are gonna unionize and form collective action around dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:20 AM
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Isn’t happening. Prisoners dilemma. Sucks to suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:09 AM
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Told her that we couldn’t be together if she continued with the decision to not make any money and contribute to the family in the future. I didn’t want my kids to have this woman as a role model and I knew in a divorce that she’d have to leave the area we were living in (SF) because she couldn’t afford to stay around post-divorce. I didn’t want to deal with my kids not having a mother nearby (I’d have primary custody) - so I just cut it short by avoiding the whole issue. She thought because I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:07 AM
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You’re using extreme outliers that no one in any community uses as a real comparison when they talk about getting status or money. They’re not saying you need tens of millions or celebrity status and then you can attract women. Those are unrealistic and not applicable to anyone since those two things are almost entirely based on luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:08 PM
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100%. Literally. This isn’t even a joke. These women exist and are always looking to date somewhat older men. Problem is - batshit insane and probably very toxic. Upside - you could theoretically get them to a healthier place. Downside - they’ll probably leave you once they’re healthier because that’s what ladies tend to do when you’ve helped them get to a better place mentally. It’s super ironic but yeah - they were only with you cause they were broken and will only stay with you while broken. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:14 AM
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Be born with the right genetics, tbh. You’re not gonna get that bone structure otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:08 AM
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Yep. Can confirm. Am millionaire with motorcycles. It does not in fact attract women - it’s often a deterrent if anything. Many women that I like see it as too risky and dangerous and think such a partner has a death wish. This is true even of my male counterparts. Large risk taking isn’t a thing among the highly educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:53 AM
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In my case, they hadn’t seen my dick before expressing this. I would also say below average maybe but I am above average - just not huge. So, I think I straddle the line there for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:49 AM
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Eh. I think it’s more related to her finding me more attractive. She specifically said things related to that which indicated she found me more sexually attractive than some other men. You can think she’s just a gal who really wants anal and just needs someone to feel safe around but I don’t think it’s that at all. Some dudes are seen as more attractive to some women and they want different things with those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:37 PM
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This literally isn’t true. Some women do want different things with different partners. I’ve literally been told by some women - “I’m not really into anal usually but I want to do it with you.” I’d normally believe what you’re saying if I didn’t have lived experience saying otherwise. 🤷‍♂️ Truth is - some gals do want different things with different partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 02:55 PM
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Status and money. Looking back - I would’ve probably gone into law, finance, or medicine if I had known what would happen. I’d rather be an IB, doctor, or lawyer at this point. All are much more respected - even if some of those make less than I do. 🤷‍♂️
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 07:39 AM
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I find the discussion around sex tourism to be weird. I don't get this idea that if you go to X country you'll suddenly find a 10/10 hottie and she'll be such a great partner and yadda yadda. Like have any of you ever actually been to these countries and actually tried to be in a relationship with any of these women? I have. They're often not much different than back home except they come with a lot of cultural baggage - which might be real patriarchal shit you don't want to deal with. (For inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:05 AM
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Feasible for an average guy? Down near impossible. How do you look for it? Probably join your local poly community and set your standards for well below average looking women. (Poly people are known fuggos - it’s bad, son.) There’s no issue for some women for a guy who only wants sex. However, you both need to be on the same page. I’ve had sex with women where there’s an agreement that it’s just sex and nothing else. (I’m a below average looking guy but I set my standards through the floor for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:35 AM
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I can’t say status indicates sexual success. You can have status and have low sexual success cause you’re fugly. Status is neither a requirement nor a bonus - depending on the individual. However - it can push someone over the edge who is otherwise not-hot. Example - you’re a tall white dude but maybe not the best in the face. You however are a leader in your social group/scene/hobby/whatever. This is where it could push you from generic tall white dude to chadlite/Chad - within your group. It w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:32 AM
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I think I get what you mean to some extent. If you're looking at online dating profiles - you might be thinking, "this is a party girl - I'll avoid" but you don't really know is what you're saying. Maybe you're missing out on a great gal but you don't know because you assume either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:26 PM
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I think a couple of those attributes come along with the incel labeling. People were always like, “oh…” when they met me and realized I drove sports cars, ride motorcycles, do woodworking, play sports, am well traveled and educated, and have a bunch of varied hobbies that are masculine but respectable. On top of being a great partner and clearly being the better half of our couple - even though they liked my wife a lot. Unfortunately, it was still hard for some to overcome their biases and could…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 09:12 PM
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Varies. Most of her friends would be too afraid to say something directly and publicly in a group but privately they would mention stuff. But, it was really the peer effect that was most problematic. Not getting invited to things as much without having met me because they assumed since I worked in tech I must be neckbeard-incel-misogynist-alt-right-anarcho-crypto-ghoul. It wasn't a huge issue for me as much as it was for her because she wanted to be accepted by everyone. That's where having the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 05:48 PM
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Women are also more obsessed with status than men are. So, it’s important that your job/status reflects the Instagram version of the lifestyle she wants. You need the income and the status. People often assume status means you need to be famous/etc but it’s really about just doing something she can be proud of talking to her friends about. I’m a millionaire but because I work in tech I’m seen as a blight to most women’s image. I might make hundreds of thousands more a year than her but because I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 03:14 PM
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Where did I say that? I don’t recall ever saying that. I don’t really meet almost any women who find me attractive. Like I said, maybe 1/1000 but then they’re usually pretty unattractive themselves (anxiety disorders, no job/low paying, overweight, emotionally unavailable, doesn’t want a family/kids, doesn’t want a relationship, etc.) No one finds these women attractive nor are they appropriate for a relationship because they’re a mess even beyond the physical aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:55 AM
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-stop plucking their eyebrows off and then drawing them back on Yeah, this one I don't get. I'm all about eyebrow threading, plucking, etc. (As a man - I get my eyebrows threaded professionally for last 15 years) But the part where you do it so much that you gotta draw them back on... What are you doing!?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:57 PM
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I'm a man. The issues I have with my gender mostly don't come down to what men overall are doing - it's what a *few* men are doing that is generally fucking up the entire dynamic. Which is a *very important* difference. In the same way that we blame the patriarchy for many societal woes - we need to realize that the patriarchy is a bit like capitalism - it's mostly the *top men* who are enforcing this patriarchy and using it to fuck over everyone. (And the top men can often be men who are well n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:49 PM
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Unfortunately, I've never had that happen with a single woman. I'm in my 30s and no woman has ever become more attracted to me over the long term. It's either pretty much off the gun attracted (cause they into freaky looking guys for whatever reason) or nothing at all. I do think some guys have that kind of look where personality can be the defining factor that wins them women. I know women who talk about that and will point out guys where they're like, "if he had a nice personality, I could see…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:17 PM
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The "long game" isn't really a game though for me. There's no opponent. When people talk about playing the "long game" they mean specifically with certain individuals. They don't mean "be out there and die alone". The 1/1000 doesn't mean it's someone who is a good match for me either btw. The good matches for me are less than 1% of the population because of my socioeconomic status. I need someone of similar socioeconomic status and that's really hard to find when you control for being single. (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:42 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately where I live - women aren't that available in other avenues. When you live in major cities like SF or NYC - people are always in a rush with whatever they're doing. When I go to Trader Joe's and other such stores - there's literally over a hundred people in this tiny little place that are all competing to get the fuck out as soon as possible. It's harder to meet people organically like that in big cities because everyone is on a mission. Similarly, very few of those people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:41 PM
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Nope. Attraction is all I need. I’m great at conversation and other stuff. But overwhelmingly, women are not attracted to me at all. It’s a bit rough. I do wish that somehow I was one of those folks where personality or something would push people over the edge to like me but I’ve learned that I’m not that type at all. I’m mostly a guy who you’re either attracted to because you’re an absolute freak (these are very very rare, like less than 1/1000) or you’re not at all and ever will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:32 PM
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Alright - another update on the whole dating coach thing. It’s basically a disaster. The guy was like, “I’ve had people who are less physically attractive and have worse profiles than you who get dates from these apps.” And I’m like, “ok, so what am I doing wrong?” And he’s basically got nothing in response to that. He’s like… just keep trying, play the long game. And I’m like… bro wtf. If I’m not getting matches then how the fuck do I play the long game?! Long game implies there’s an opponent! …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:18 PM
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One problem is that at most ages - single men outnumber single women. I think it’s only once you get past 50 does it get near equal - I’m not sure how they evaluate single status either off the top of my head. You can’t have more single men at every bracket and just say “it balances out cause they date older men” - that’s not how it works. I just have a hard time believing the only reason is that men are dating younger women - especially when age gap relationships are so incredibly taboo right n…
/r/MensRights24/02/23 08:35 AM
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Men could all not choose porn tomorrow but still be majority dateless virgins. Women have to choose the men too. It’s not like women are objects you pluck off shelves and start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:30 PM
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No no no. You're clearly doing something wrong. Let me move the goalposts further, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:54 PM
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Far more in common between 18-29 than 30-40 imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:07 PM
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Almost no one is studying it, which is part of the problem. Most of these surveys are garbage and using very old surveying mechanisms that were born out of the 50s and 60s. The reason is because they don't want to change the methodology at all because if you do then you can't use it with historical data. Anecdotally - I know a lot of women who are sharing partners. They often just don't know until they're "breaking up".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:47 PM
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I think I might've misread who you were referencing in the "they" as the bisexual women and not as the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:46 PM
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I don't know the facts of the study. This is one of the "theories" part as to what makes up the discrepancy. Here is the source AFAICT: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Questions and methodologies: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/facts-single-americans-topline.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/facts-single-americans-methodology.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:36 PM
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I suspect one reason bisexual women often pair up with men is also because women don't make the first move. Only lesbians are going to make the first move and there's a much smaller amount of them than bisexual women (I think they also have a preference for lesbians - not bisexual women). In general, bisexual women will never make the first move and thus will rely on whoever makes the first move... Which will be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:34 PM
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One thing not mentioned that plays a large role is the natural asymmetric birth rates and lowering of male mortality combined with male dominated immigration creating a large "surplus" of men especially in the younger age groups. It's worth noting that women consistently vote for and support immigration to a larger degree than men and benefit more from it (in social-sexual options and economically). So, natural birth rates is accurate. Pretty much everywhere - boys are born more often than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:31 PM
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Men are born more often. Please just google this shit and get basic biology correct first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:24 PM
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Yeah, I have to admit the article does come off as rather manhating. It's kinda obscene but I wonder if it was written that way to make it agitating. Clearly it has something working for it since I am sharing it. (I am sharing mostly for the headline)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:22 PM
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"Share the top 36%" - means they're not single. They're sharing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:21 PM
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The worst part is that a lot of these UMC women want to be with me but don’t make any money. They‘ve been bankrolled by mom and dad for so long - now they need a partner to keep paying. “I shouldn’t have to cook. I live in a major city.” is kind of the mentality tbh. Same with cleaning. It’s all “beneath” them. It’s not something I wish to pass onto my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:07 PM
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Nope. Just looking for a reasonable woman. No one in my circle would be considered good looking by modern standards - lol. I’m definitely shooting low here. A lot of those types of women aren’t even really in the cities I live in. It’s too damned expensive for them to even get their foot in here until they got a guy on lockdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:16 AM
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This is a fake story. Can we just ban this account already?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:04 AM
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"Some" - no, my man. Most charge like $1k+ for a night. A legit 10/10 would be thousands for a night and she'd be picky about who she even slept with. This story is full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:04 AM
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It's more common than you think. As a 1%er man - this is actually almost all I can find out on the market. Not even joking. Most women I run into don't cook, don't clean, don't do anything. If they get into a relationship with a man - they expect him to pay the rent and do most chores. They're not gonna be making it up by doing all the household stuff. I know women who aren't like this but they're also not single. The ones out here on the market - they're terrible. This is happening even in plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:02 AM
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Come to Stanford. You'll find out there's people from all kinds of countries that it should be "irrelevant" for. Income is essential. Especially cause we talk so much about geomaxxing and all this other shit. Money does matter for a lot of these topics we talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:57 PM
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You can be UMC in Philippines but still unable to afford Stanford. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:19 PM
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I think it’s still relevant. Some stuff we talk about just isn’t as accessible regardless of socioeconomic class in your current locale - if you don’t make enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:28 PM
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There are more men than women below 35 - where the majority of people live single lives. There is also a significant amount of women dating one guy. It is not as common for women to be dating multiple dudes at the same time. It is common for women to be side-hos though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:03 AM
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How anyone disagrees with this is *wild*. Go out there people. Go see how often women settle immediately for whoever is around them. You think they want to date the overweight guy named Darryl who wears camo regularly and drives a rust bucket of a lifted nissan pickup truck? No - they don't but they do because they're deathly afraid of being alone. This is literally the reason I'd say about 50%+ of men are even not single. It's not because the women want them - it's because the women are so afra…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:56 PM
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No income bracket? Now I'm around all these "upper middle class" people but they don't even say how much NW they have or how much money they make. Peons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:53 PM
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These guys are also people who go out a lot, man. Sometimes you can never be in the right place at the right time too. It’s hard. I go out multiple times a week and I struggle to even find single women to begin with. Add in any reasonable qualifiers like I’m physically attracted, they’re emotionally competent, and they have a good job - it’s back to nothing. It’ll be like that for many months. Maybe I meet one gal a year that even gets close. And that’s from going out probably 150-200 times a ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:45 PM
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Where are you using? I got literally nothing from tinder in Europe. Even in Eastern Europe - nothing. Women there seem as picky as they are here. Definitely don’t do tinder in Norway. You’ll never be able to compete. Those women are insanely fit and gorgeous and the men are too. It’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:35 PM
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This does tend to happen once the people get their green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:33 PM
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Just doesn’t really align with reality though. I know lots of guys with good jobs, physically active, mentally well, etc. and they still are single. I’m in the same boat - arguably even better off than them in some regards. As a man - physical attractiveness and being in the right place at the right time are paramount. If you’re not physically attractive to a woman (not much of this is in your control - height, face, race, and frame are all not malleable) then you’re gonna be having it rough. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:29 PM
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This is a backpill talking point. That said - some of what you said isn’t that important compared to other things. Things like height, face, frame, etc. are weighted far more heavily than your libido. Also, you’re forgetting women care a lot about types and niches. That Indian guy might seem uglier than you but to those women - he’s hotter cause they’re into educated and well spoken desi dudes for whatever reason. You can’t ignore that shit. They might not be as attractive from a Chadmaxxing per…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:44 PM
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Vietnam still has a lot of malnutrition bro. https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnamese-3-centimeters-taller-over-last-decade-4217413.html I'm not gonna act like some places aren't gonna be a bit shorter than some others. Obviously a lot of dudes in South Sudan are giants compared to the rest of us. But malnutrition and poor health has a huge effect on these areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:13 AM
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Hope those bros never come to the USA. Holy fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:10 AM
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Can you show stats for MENA? I’m blown away that mena is worse than East Asian. 🤮 That’s not good news for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:29 AM
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He’d probably be fine in nyc as there’s lots of Asian women who only date other Asians here. That said, if you’re like 5’10 180 and 10% bf - he can’t compete with that and that standard is unrealistic. We don’t even know if you also have a good face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:28 AM
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Working on it. It's a slow roll. I'll let you guys know as it progresses. It's very early.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:59 PM
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Another amazing statistic that is not considering age at all. Newsflash - people in countries with lots of historic malnutrition have shorter people... more at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:57 PM
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That’s interesting. I haven’t heard of that one. Would make sense to me since I’ve heard dead bedroom stuff is a big culprit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:18 PM
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Nyc artsy types are usually funded by bank of mom and dad though. Most people here still come from pretty well off families - if they live in Manhattan anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:46 PM
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I think places like NYC also work for men of certain demographics. If you're a jewish man - you will probably find someone in NYC regardless of how you look. There is a huge and willing dating pool for people of certain types. I do think for places like NYC though - if you don't fall into a traditional type (e.g. super masculine, jewish, indian, korean, or pretty boy etc.) then you're really going to have a hard time. A lot of the bigger cities thrive on having a niche. Some men aren't fit for *…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 08:10 PM
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Stuff like 6/6/6 is extremely common in places a lot of major cities like SF and NYC. I mean - if you're not earning 6 figures as a man or a woman then you need support to really have a good quality of life. (Often you need to have a household income of $400k+ in order to have a somewhat "normal" life as compared to those in a more MCOL or LCOL area) There's also so many people in these places and I do think it attracts the "top" of the pool - that finding men who are 6ft tall is incredibly comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:05 PM
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In the city proper - only about 10 mil between the 3. So, about 3% of US population. In metro? You have about 31 mil. Almost 10% of US population. It's not a trivial amount of people, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:17 PM
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We all act like fat people are the norm but in sf, nyc, and Seattle… overweight folks under 30 were pretty uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:50 PM
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It declines quickly after women’s sexual market peak because men’s sexual market value is in relation to women’s. The amount of women who are single, childless, and put together after 25 falls off a cliff. This means that for men - they are all competing for a very small percentage of women. Therefore, your SMV tanks super hard due to sheer volume of men competing for one commodity. If men were instead spread out over all available women - I think it wouldn’t be as bad but no one really wants to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:49 PM
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Big cities is a vague term, I agree. Maybe I should’ve clarified. I do think anything over 500k pop is probably big city territory - which San Antonio definitely qualifies as. So does Louisville. But nyc is a whole other ballpark compared to most any city in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:35 PM
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This doesn’t sound like you like men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:30 PM
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Idk why we all act like women are super overweight in the USA. This is a rural and old people thing. If you’re in a major city like Seattle, sf, or nyc - most people under 35 are not even remotely overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:03 PM
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These stats are still wrong, lol. SK is actually taller than that for under 30 crowd now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:02 PM
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Men who do well in all of Asia are generally just physically attractive men. Especially so if they’re doing well in the rich and developed areas. But typically in those threads - the men are suggesting you go to Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, etc. and get women who are from poorer backgrounds. The women are also not from upper middle class backgrounds either. Those women wouldn’t live in those countries if they were that well off. The same is true in countries like Turkey. Women who are educate…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:06 AM
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Hard to say if that's due to white man preference or other races preferences though. The black women preferring same race is a notable difference from other races when it comes to white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:53 PM
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Well, white women are highly sought after by all races - so it’s no real surprise they get some variety… White men are desired by many races but black women often don’t want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:56 PM
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Generally, yes. Interracial dating is hard, period. It’s statistically uncommon even though - statistically - it should be the norm. Add in not looking like ideal version of whatever your race offers as a “type” and you’re definitely going to struggle. As someone who is mixed race and looks ambiguous to the point where no one has ever been able to come remotely close to pinpointing my race at all - it is an even bigger challenge. I can’t fit into any niche because fundamentally there is no niche…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:14 PM
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Race is too variable depending on where you are and who you’re interacting with. Height, face, and frame are practically universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:47 PM
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Disagree. Most women I meet want someone who exceeds past everything they are. I only know a handful over my years where the man is less in some meaningful department - and I would classify these women as quite unconventional overall..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:46 PM
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Why do men give dating advice to women more than vice versa? This is literally the title of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:22 PM
0

But I never said even women in Antarctica can get hitched in three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:21 PM
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False premise. Generally - women don’t listen to men about dating advice nor do they ask them. Women - in general - don’t really need dating advice like men do to begin with. They just sit back and wait for shit to happen. If you’re remotely in a decent place physically, emotionally, financially, and location-wise you’ll never be single more than 3 months as a woman. The same cannot be said of a man. Men can be all that and single for years. This is why dating advice is extremely common for men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:07 PM
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Black pill isn’t about doom. Ffs. It’s about looks being the most important factor. It tells you that if you want to improve your SMV then improving your looks is the most important part. It isn’t the only thing. It just says it’s probably closer to 90% of the reason when it comes to things like cold approach, online dating, etc. It has about a 70% effect in warm approach. There will always be a minimum bar for everyone. This is what BP subscribes to. It is the most scientific/realistic pill and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:58 AM
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Generally, no. It only works when you have the right support network and know how to avoid it in the future. It needs to be paired very well with lessons and positive reinforcement. Going out and just getting rejected for the sake of rejection will lead to some serious damage. To your boxing analogy, is it smart to get punched in the face over and over again as a way to learn to how to take punches and be a better fighter? Not really. It’s better to learn how to avoid punches and not get actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 06:54 PM
1

It's not just the cities - it's practically everywhere. Even in rural areas - it's the same issue. I have the stats to back it up. I did research on this using census data. (Table B12002)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:14 PM
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They’re not invisible I just don’t know them well, or not know them at all This is kind of the point. Unfuckable men are mostly irrelevant to most women. You're not interested in knowing them. You only know about the men who have partners because women show up with their partners to things. It's relatively safe to assume a significant portion of the men you're meeting are single - they just don't have it stamped on their forehead and you're not going to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:37 PM
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I would say being a good man doesn’t mean you need to be physically attractive. So, those physically unattractive men might be doing everything right but just got bad luck with their genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:06 PM
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Yeah, I have a similar issue. I'm not as short nor bald but I have money and it isn't helpful in the search. If I wanted a gold digger - okay but I actually want someone who's closer to an equal. That's basically impossible to find. Women who make anywhere near what I do or have are always looking for guys who make 5x more. It's fucking bonkers. I can't blame them though - they always find the guys! (Even if the guys are like 10+ years older)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:36 AM
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There was a lot in that comment that didn't make sense but I agree - this was the one that made me really go, "is this just a bad ChatGPT comment?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:51 AM
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the ‘average’ would just go up/become something unattainable. This is the reality. We already see this with sperm donors. We already gatekeep them to an incredibly high level. Short men aren't even allowed to donate sperm and yet women still only go for a small percentage of sperm donors overall. There is a large demand for a certain niche amount of men's sperm. This will always be the way it is even when there is a large set of qualifiers to said sperm to begin with. It is the nature of the bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:50 AM
1

I live in NYC - touching grass is fucking hard. The nearest blade of grass is at least 2 miles away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:42 AM
1

10,001.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:41 AM
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By then bro - we will be uploaded into the cloud and promptly sudo rm -rf /* ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:40 AM
1

I think the reason these gals aren't as interested is mostly due to the Instagramification and atomization of our society. If we get back third places and lower our emphasis on idealistic bodies from social media (and of ones that are all of the same type!), I do think Billy Bob has a better chance. There is likely some inherent hypergamous nature to a lot of what women do and it isn't all societal conditioning but I think with enough variance in beauty standards for men - women can all find a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:38 AM
2

Driving in the USA in less than 20 years has killed more people than our involvement in the World Wars. For people under the age of 55 - it's the leading cause of nonnatural death. Strong capitalism and corrupt politicians are the reason we don't have public transportation infrastructure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:33 AM
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I'd suggest reading works by Robert Putnam. At least watching an interview or two with him might be helpful. He has some great debates and interviews on YouTube. He talks about third places and in general a social collapse we're experiencing in our society - and how we've been through these before and how things have worked out in the past. Obviously, the past isn't always a predictor of the future but there are some lessons to be learned from his works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:29 AM
3

You can point this out about 10,000 times and you'll still find 10,001 comments ignoring it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:27 AM
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So men should follow TRP, and "do the work" so that you can move closer to the top 20% and spend less time fucking your hand. Or just accept the fact that you're not getting the quality/variety of women that you're looking for. I think one issue here is that although the median is still the same from 2002 to 2012 - it is showing that men below the median are getting worse off because women's statistics were unchanged. This means that women were sharing more men at the top and more men at the bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:25 AM
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I think more specifically - it'd come to the conclusion of not just touching grass but having the return of third places. I do think the reason we're seeing so much online behavior isn't just due to some kind of degeneracy but also due to late stage capitalism. Third places have been dying for a long time and I think we've seen the results of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:08 AM
1

You know a few but mention only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:19 AM
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I think skills and work can be part of it. However, I do think that there's a significant amount of men who do have some skills and do work but it's just not paying off anyway. ​ I think it's similar to the job market. It's not enough these days to be a good partner. You have to have the degree from the top university because everyone already has a degree. Well now all your peers have degrees from top schools, so you better have side projects and internships too. Oh wait, they all have that now …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:53 AM
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She is. She posts prolifically here and that's always how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:50 AM
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Not that nerdy, sorry. Girls don't see that as nerdy - I hate to say it. They see it as artsy. Very different
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:09 PM
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Are you a woman? Cause - this doesn't make any sense otherwise. Looks like you are. It makes sense that these men are invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:07 PM
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You work in entertainment, my man. You’re not nerdy - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:59 PM
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Weird. I know so many. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:58 PM
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I agree somewhat here. I think your first two sentences are spot on. I can’t say I agree with the rest. But I generally will say - what does well in interviews isn’t necessarily what makes a good employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:36 PM
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I’ve lived in SF and NYC. I’ve heard experiences for some men are like this but I’ve heard many that aren’t. I think SF is really the brutal testing grounds. If you don’t get any dates in SF - you won’t get them in nyc either. This is because you’re probably just ugly. I own custom made suits, my man. I’ve got lots of money. It doesn’t make a big difference if ugly. NYC is just annoying though cause of the status aspect to jobs. You need to be in finance to be respected. Like, when I have been w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:33 PM
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I disagree. There are plenty of men who don’t fit into a niche. Niches like nerds, goth, Chad, Uber masc, femme, jock, alt, etc. are things some folks are just never gonna fall into.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:29 PM
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It’s a small sample though..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:28 PM
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I've lived in both bud. They're both dogshit. NYC is terrible cause hypergamy is on a whole other level here. Women aren't just obsessed with looks but also status. In SF - they don't care about status. If you have money - you're fine. In NYC - status is everything. You can be a fucking MD and are considered dog shit because you're not in finance or high end real estate. In the bay - you literally don't work in tech and you're considered a god compared to tech workers. You work in tech? Well at …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:06 PM
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I literally live in nyc and have lived in other major cities in the USA like SF, Seattle, etc. It’s common… You’re just not seeing these men because they’re invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:45 PM
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Yeah - I think this explains why women are often saying they don’t know any but men are often saying they do. It’s cause these men are literally invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:42 PM
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I will agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:41 PM
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It’s also a thing where you might not be around them. It’s very common in big cities. Women tend to hang out with girls and boys with girlfriends. They don’t hang around single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:40 PM
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lol I’m rich and RE.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:22 PM
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I will also say men and women are both not great judges of male beauty. You might think those guys aren’t attractive but to women who like guys like him - they are attractive. Similarly for women. Some girls are like, “I don’t like X dudes.” And so they see all of that type as unattractive but there’s lots of women who do find X attractive. It’s often called nichemaxxing. There’s guys who have no niche though and are just generally unattractive. I never see these guys do well in any circumstance…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:13 PM
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There it is. “I don’t know any guys like that.” “I actually know a couple but I refuse to believe they’re good people and instead believe there is something deeply wrong with them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:11 PM
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It’s literally idpol. You should learn a bit more theory and become more aware of how politics is crafted - lol. Do you think DEI exists because it was really meant to help people? lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:10 PM
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Indian and short. The man is probably working in tech too. Unfortunately - this is an extremely common narrative. Super hard for a lot of these Indian guys unless they accept dating only other Indians. I know some Indian guys who do well and are short but they’re good looking guys with low standards. So, it’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:09 PM
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Yep. It’s a joke of a place. It’s absolutely terrible for men. I’d argue most large cities are in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:57 PM
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I already mentioned neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:55 PM
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Around here certainly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:53 PM
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Have you told any of them this stuff? I feel like this is particularly easy stuff to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:28 PM
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Can you give a couple examples of why they can't attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:09 PM
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Are these people in the room right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:08 PM
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I know quite a few of these men actually. You should branch out more. Lots of men out there getting nothing by their early 20s. Increasingly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:48 PM
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The reason incel got weaponized is because that’s classic idpol strategy. Go to stupidpol and see how people weaponize idpol all the time. Open your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:40 PM
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The problem with the original graphs was that there were no error bars and no obvious qualifiers like - “this survey question was optional and over half of respondents didn’t answer”. The error bars would also show anywhere from 15-50% as a valid option in 95% of cases. Something that is clearly wildly inaccurate. As soon as it became clear that the rise wasn’t just dramatic but built on faulty grounds - people were like… okay, yeah, this shit is off. This study is using junk data. We don’t know…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:38 PM
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Where do you live? I don’t know any 19 year olds man. So.. feel like this is a college aged person talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:31 PM
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To be clear - a lot of this survey is optional. I suspect many folks aren’t answering some of these questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:16 PM
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Better but still absolutely terrible. I had no experience up until I was about 25. It was difficult cause I looked young for a while and also didn’t look the way women wanted me to look. Women were always complaining that I was ugly, too short, etc. Got older and none of that really changed but after so many years of going out almost every night and meeting new people - I did eventually stumble into someone and capitalized on that immediately. Being post divorce and in my early 30s, it’s still h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:00 PM
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There is some interesting scheming as to why welfare and some other programs do exist though. It placates the masses from massive upheaval of a system where the few are insanely rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:47 PM
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This isn’t held up by the stats bub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:44 PM
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This makes literally no sense. I’d prefer she uses her words like a real fucking adult and not some childish insecure teenager who thinks they’ll be burned at the stake in the town square if they say anything. “I like you and would like to have sex with you but I would like to wait (until X conditions are met).” You don’t really need to overthink it. I’ve had women do this to me before but usually only after confrontation about why they’re being so coy. At that point I make up my mind and decide…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:40 PM
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No no no. Women are just like men except they have no agency and no accountability. They cannot possibly choose to be with a man that is significantly older than them! That’s not possible! It must be men who manipulated them because women are pure blood saints!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:38 PM
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Fresh and fit literally chooses women for the most extreme takes and the women know this and act the part. That show is a joke and shouldn’t be used to represent anything. I think the women on samuels podcast were more genuine but also quite delusional. After all, the girls on samuels show weren’t there to promote their Instagram… they had nothing to really gain except being made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:20 AM
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I’m just speaking to what happens for most men. I think it’s a bit ridiculous to sell cosmetic surgery as a cure all or as something that’ll solve most folks issues. Even if you’re fit, dress well, etc. it won’t matter if your face is bad. Cosmetic surgery can take some roughness off but it isn’t going to really add beauty. It’s more about removing ugly than anything. Which isn’t the same, unfortunately. Some folks can have incredible results but those are usually for folks who had everything pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:03 PM
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If you’re ugly in the face - it doesn’t matter. Cosmetic surgery doesn’t fix everything either btw. Lots of people will always look bad even after a few surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:55 PM
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Then you agree it’s not necessary - lol. You’re only doing it because you’re insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:45 PM
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This is some weird gymcel talk. A lot of guys who do well spend little to no time in the gym and little to no time on skincare. It’s not necessary for those who are tall and good in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:18 PM
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Not everyone has the ability to go up a full point from cosmetic surgery. Some folks just have issues that surgery cannot fix. Surgery is usually good for removing blunders - it is not good for adding beauty. Even if I did a few more operations - I wouldn’t go up a full point. I’d go up maybe 0.25-0.5. It would require intensive and some risky surgeries too. It would also be quite expensive and costly in time. A lot of men are in the same bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:16 PM
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The problem is that the age it comes with might be over 40. By then, it’s too late and that person has mostly ruined the dating pool for the last 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:13 PM
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Idk why you’re ignoring what he’s saying. He’s actually right. There are double standards for Chad vs normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:59 PM
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I agree overall but disagree on a few points. I don’t think being an emotional provider is as important as looks and income. I’ve found that you still need to be the breadwinner in order to get a partner. The requirements to be a breadwinner have just gone up. Now you need to make more money on average - which means it’s harder to even pass the bare minimum standard that was set in the past. Many professional women are always looking for someone higher up. She’s an optometrist, he must be an MD.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:56 PM
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Bars, house parties, dancing, hobbies, etc. The usual stuff. None of it is particularly good. Single women are notoriously hard to find in normal social situations in this city compared to single men. Single men are prolifically out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:31 PM
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It’s weird but status is a huge component for women in nyc. You can be physically attractive but without status - kinda pointless. In other areas - I’ve seen this as less of an issue. Like the bar is lower for status. Here, doctors are seen as low status jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:28 PM
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Stories are just that. I know a lot of other men in their 20s and 30s who are struggling too - here in nyc. The media sells it one way - it’s actually another. Women here are insanely obsessed with status - not even just wealth. (I have good wealth but I don’t have status) There’s lots of issues with the area. Beautiful women also just don’t really go out that much either here. They’re mostly in small insular circles and usually bouncing from relationship to relationship. (Monkey branching) I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:46 PM
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The issue is assuming men also have good opportunities in real life and/or aren’t pursuing those concurrently. I go out 5x+/week and have for many months. I haven’t gotten a single date or kiss out of it. Do you think this is because I’m not going out enough or trying enough? No, it’s cause the odds are shit. Most places in real life are packed with single dudes compared to single women. The competition is still insanely fierce and a lot of the women are just joking around when out. It’s a rough…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:53 PM
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Blackpill is not incompatible with believing things can be better. Blackpill is about acknowledging the way society is. It is then up to the disciple as how to implement the ways of BP to their own advantage. Whether that’s gym, surgery, location, money, fashion, etc. We all agree looksmaxxing is of utmost importance - blackpill will just tell you how far you can get with it compared to someone who is genetically more gifted. You’re not likely to become an 8 if you’re a 3. But you might be a 5 a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:48 AM
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Big if though, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:07 AM
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Child support is bad in either situation. But I think most men in both situations wouldn’t claim ownership of the child and thus avoid child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:23 AM
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The voters are a bit more left leaning but they're not that far off. Socialists aren't some large voting block in the USA. They're still quite a bit of a niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:34 PM
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It depends on the views of abortion. If both are willing to abort then it’s equally bad. If they’re unwilling to abort - the married woman is worse. The reason being is that you can more realistically recover a marriage from someone who has cheated. The married man can abandon the pregnant woman and live a more regular life. The woman is obviously becoming a single mother but that’s her choice. Lives ruined - mostly one but that’s her choice. The married woman getting pregnant is ruining another…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:02 PM
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Generally I’ve seen what you’re referring to as well. It’s sickening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:26 AM
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Good effort post but one thing I want to note about these studies is that the error bars are so massive that it should give people a lot of hesitation. Ranges from 20-50% are basically saying, "this sample is so small as to be worthless and anything taken from it is pure speculation". Another aspect is: Answers are voluntarily given. You can opt to not answer. There might be a significant change between the way people in 2017 answered vs 2021. To see such a huge boost and then giant drop is very…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:43 PM
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Most "left" in the USA is still extremely neoliberal. That's why you're confused. It's very different from European politics. The democrats in the USA are also pro-MIC, pro-police, and pro private prisons and so forth. ​ The USA is a pretty socially and fiscally conservative/neoliberal country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:27 PM
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But when a fat girl checks me out my instant reaction is to feel grossed out. That's just weird, man. I don't feel grossed out by that. I'm like, "Nice, at least someone here finds me attractive." Same with when I go to the gym and all the gay bros are checking me out. I'm like, "If only, mate. If only."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:24 PM
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They're also the majority of women. Your average woman is not above stereotypes and gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:23 PM
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The issue is that women earn less than men on average. The pay gap is mostly due to women choosing lower earning professions. The medical field is the most blatant example of this. Surgeons are 4x more likely to be men. Optometrists are overwhelmingly women but ophthalmologists are overwhelmingly men. (One is an MD and one isn’t - they’re different) So while this is a nice solution on an individual basis (if you can swing it!) - it’s a terrible solution on a societal level because it’s just fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:43 PM
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Something like that clearly indicates there’s an issue with the data sampling. For it to go from 30% to 12% in 2 years (especially with a pandemic happening) indicates some wild ass sampling issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:23 PM
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Bro, keep your crypto fetish to yourself and out of ppd. Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:55 AM
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Yep. Always move the goal posts. It can never be society’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:47 PM
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Just everyday tax fraud I guess. I’ve never heard or seen anyone do this particular variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:16 PM
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Men on 40k/yr are going to be struggling to afford seeing a sex worker with any regularity too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:06 PM
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Ok. Believe what you want, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:39 AM
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Pulled out a cigarette. Told me they had a job paying like 1/10 what I make. Said they were married after we had already had sex. Took off their mask (masked events). Revealed that they’re pretty socially conservative. Told me they believed in god. Still lived with their parents. The list goes on and on. I don’t really meet many single women but when I do - they have daddy issues. (And god does that make for great sex but also the worst kind of relationship!)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:37 AM
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Nah - the men usually fuck it up, lol. The guys get obsessed with their side chicks and then forget to take care of their main gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:33 AM
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I’m just saying you’ll never find one, man. You’re looking for a unicorn - something that doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:32 AM
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Nah. I know some of these women. They’re faithful. The relationships don’t generally last though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:28 AM
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🙌 Damn bro - you hit it hard. This is really most of it. There’s no lack of these gals thanks to daddy dying or leaving. A lot of women really take death from their fathers way harsher than I’ve seen any men do for parental death. It’s on the level of spousal death - maybe worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:27 AM
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You’ll also never find a good partner with this metric, I hate to say. I’ve yet to meet a single woman who is objectively attractive and remotely has her shit together and has been single for six months.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:15 AM
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If you think capitalism is going away in the next 40 years, you've got some serious delusions of grandeur. As long as that's happening along with more globalization, these dynamics aren't going away - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:30 AM
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I think the rate is higher for women who are just generally fertile to begin with. Usually you do IVF for women who are struggling to conceive naturally. So, there's some bias in the group sampling there. ​ Either way, I don't really care. It's cheap in the scheme of things - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:28 AM
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Bruh - look up anything related to education and gender. You’re so out of touch - it’s mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:23 PM
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IVF is not really that expensive - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:23 PM
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All of education is centered around women. See how many women are teachers. See how the classrooms are organized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:50 PM
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Again, small issues compared to boys who will never been seen by women at all. I’ll teach her how to have proper boundaries and respect for her own space. I’ll teach her about valuing a more diverse group of traits. I feel bad for you, man. You clearly aren’t a good parent if you think those are hard issues to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:48 PM
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100%. I literally have lived like this until I met my exwife. She was like, “please, no. You need furniture. I can’t date someone who lives like this!” So I bought really nice furniture. Obviously I enjoy my nice furniture now but it took a lot of time to source and it’s fucking stupid expensive. So, yeah, I’m gonna avoid it until I absolutely need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:42 PM
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I’ve already helped raise people’s kids. It’s much easier to raise girls. Almost every parent I’ve known is also super happy to have had girls instead of boys - and they usually say the girls have been easier than the boys when they have both. Almost all of society is centered around women’s issues these days. If my girls decide they wanna be executive girl bosses making $10m+/yr then yeah - they’ll run into some glass ceilings but that’s about the only real struggle they’ll face. Most of the is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:36 PM
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I’ll start by not having sons. I’m planning to have children by IVF and will have daughters only. (This is an option IVF provides) The world already has too many men and the world is not kind to men. Almost all women I’ve met for dating are also good with only having daughters. My children will have an incredibly blessed life thanks to incredibly smart and well off parents - and not having to deal with any real challenges in the dating realm like if they were men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:21 PM
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Prefer success in dating. I’ve had the success in everything else - it’s nowhere near as fulfilling. I’m speaking as someone who has had a $1m+/yr income, traveled extensively, etc. It’s highly overrated. Love is much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:40 PM
2

Hit the gym. Being skinny fat isn’t being fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:28 PM
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Only need to make $70k/yr more as a 40 year old to be as attractive as a 30 year old? Men really are cheap dates. God damn, if I was a woman I’d be seen as 18 for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:26 PM
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A nice physique for a woman really only requires dieting - going to the gym isn’t necessary. A nice physique for a man basically requires going to the gym because you need focused hypertrophy in order to gain muscle mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:11 PM
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Same in sf. This is just culturally normal - dating within same race only.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:03 PM
1

85kg is pretty big at 180cm unless you’re 20% bf. Then just cut to 10% and put the same weight in muscle back on. Cause 85kg at 10% bf is pretty jacked at that height…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:00 PM
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Gymcel is a thing and I’ve seen many of these men in my own life. Facial aesthetics is paramount in our current culture. You’ll likely just differentiate enough with your aesthetic to attract girls who are only into buff dudes. When you could’ve differentiated enough to attract girls who are into skinny dudes, etc. These women aren’t super common or easy to grab but they do exist. It’s called nichemaxxing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:58 PM
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Hm - my surroundings have been the opposite. If anything - the men are like, “yeah I’m already doing that. It’s crazy important. Glad you’re joining me. Shit is wild.” They’re all pretty supportive and will actually tell you what they’ve been doing and what helps. We’re all hiring pro photographers, seeing personal trainers, looking into or doing TRT, finasteride, stylists, skincare, hair transplant, cosmetic surgery, etc. We’re all trying to look insanely natural though - so you’d never know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:45 AM
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He did. Look it up, dude. He has implants. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:23 AM
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He also had plastic surgery, lol. It helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:14 AM
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lol - blackpill isn’t about resenting women at all. RP is much more full of resentful men than BP, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:12 AM
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Nope. No correlation, imo. Knew many men who were good friends but couldn’t attract women. Straight men aren’t concerned about how fuckable their male friends are. I’d say this is especially true in nerd circles. So many guys who are good friends and really present and actually quite charming but then none of those dudes get any. It’s cause - looks are way more important to making ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:10 PM
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Most guys here are complaining they can’t get anything - actually. What a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 03:06 PM
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Your argument makes literally no sense. You just proved how it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:51 PM
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You’re talking about looks. Blackpill talks about that. Looksmaxxing is a blackpill term, dude. It just happens to be there’s limits to what you can do. Not everyone can go from a 1 to a 10 and redpill sells that you can. Blackpill tells you that you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:49 PM
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Idk man - this is an extreme take. There are some that did this kind of sexual assault shit but that’s uncommon and shouldn’t be considered anywhere near the norm. Same for mgtow and incels - they never advocate for that shit. Incels are mostly filled with self-hatred and self-pity because they had a bad roll of the dice when it came to genetics. That’s the overwhelming majority. They don’t hate women - they hate the way the cards were dealt. Mgtow are mostly divorced dads. They’re bitter about …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:15 AM
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BP is more nuanced than that. I’d say it’s closer to RP than BP with your definitions. RP just believes status, wealth, and manipulation can lead to great success. BP says looks is 90%+ of it. RP says it’s only half or not even. RP is old head thinking from pre-90s dating environment. It’s why RP salesman are old AF and why BP content is mostly from under 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:09 AM
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Your blackpill takes have nothing to do with blackpill ideology. You’re taking how a few community members who associate with the ideology and assuming that’s part of the ideology. It’s not. That’s like saying veganism means you have to be a stuck up prick with a holier than thou mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:05 AM
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Asian countries are no longer short bro. Nutrition is better. Some of them actually have taller averages than the USA now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:02 AM
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K-pop men are also insanely attractive. They don’t want just fem men - they want exceptionally attractive men who happen to be fem and less intimidating. Watch Korean dating shows - the men on them are insanely tall and handsome and masculine AF. Same for k drama. Asia in general is obsessed with the same shit as western countries. Height, masculinity, great face, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:01 AM
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An important detail. There are men with this kind of confidence but it’d be called hubris because they don’t have the material backing for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:59 AM
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Good faces too. Chad has a nice face - something they overlooked in their comment. I’d say Europe has a fair amount of chads - Scandinavian countries can pump these out like no one’s business but it’s face genetics at the end of the day. Bad face - not a Chad. Just a guy with Chad features but not the face. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:57 AM
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Yes, I have. I know a few. Some lesbians are giving but it's a common complaint from my lesbian friends of selfish women. It might be that the women they're sleeping with are bi and not just lesbian. I already know a lot of selfish bi women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:58 AM
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I agree. I’m telling you that most modern young women do not want to go through those minor hurdles though. They’re not interested in the actual work side of it. It’s fantasy and they want a man who can just somehow magically read their ridiculous mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:54 PM
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Having no food really incentivizes people. Living a meager and shitty life isn’t enough for revolution, comrade. You need to be starving to be willing to challenge the system. Women aren’t going to challenge it when their stomaches are full and they can live with their 3 cats in their studio apartments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:01 PM
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Money is a lower factor than it has ever been. This is because women are economically more independent than they’ve ever been. They can get jobs, girl boss, etc. unlike anytime before. There is still a glass ceiling but it’s a much higher ceiling than 99% of women will ever want to reach. Looks is the most important aspect today for women. You don’t got looks? What good are you? Women want to have the Instagram boyfriend - the image of a man who is appealing. The appealing man is no longer one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:41 PM
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Not anymore mang. This is old head thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:38 PM
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All women basically get men, if they want. So when they don’t get men, it’s usually because they’re a volcel. Thus, the reasons are because their standards are too high. Many reasons for why standards too high. There are some exceptions like some gals being ultra insecure and thinking no one wants them but - tbh - it is usually got a good amount of narcissism underneath where if Chad approached, they would say yes. I’ve met gals all over the range for why standards are too high. Too hard to pin …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:35 PM
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God, this is most women who “want” to be submissive too. Then you do actually be dom in this weird semi-non-consensual power play because brats won’t ever actually submit and they’re like, “but now you’re oppressing me!!!” Brats are the fucking worst and I never want to deal with one again. Hate them. Most modern young women are brats too, imo. Cannot stand it. Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:27 PM
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All men know what they’re talking about when saying success. A man being able to have sex with a few below average women over a long period of time is not success at all. In the same way that, “oh I’ve been able to have a successful career” when that’s having been a Walmart greeter at three different stores over the last 20 years is not success either. Yes, you’ve had a job. No it is not a success by the way anyone would define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:23 PM
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This is definitely an interesting concept to throw out as its own thread. I agree with the statement but I bet many women will disagree for (reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:21 PM
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lol wait until they find out how selfish lesbians are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:35 AM
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lol true. Girls who only go down like on the tip of the dick. Come on. 😭 If they’re young - this is something that is fixable. But if they’re over 30, this is probably something they’re stuck with. You gonna have to ask yourself if that’s what you want to experience the rest of your life - your dick barely getting any mouth at all. 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:34 AM
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You can’t argue with people who are trying to self-delude themselves into believing they’re happy alone. They are inherently irrational by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:32 AM
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Only if girl was also blackpilled or similar minded. Otherwise, pointless for mainstream bluepill types as it’d be completely over their head. Most of the lingo and whatnot would be so deeply over their head that they’d immediately get the wrong ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:30 AM
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This is generally it. It’s superficial stuff but women really don’t like guys who don’t have the superficial image stuff down. Being associated with guys that have the “no bitches” aesthetic even remotely is deeply painful for most women. They want to be around the aesthetic that is like Chad - if they can’t be with Chad at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:28 AM
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Your problem is assuming that generally men and women like to be treated the same way. Do you think submissive men are as common as submissive women? Probably should reflect on it and analyze how to treat people different based on the dynamics that people want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:26 AM
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Owning it is a bit weird though - kinda feels like a cuckold fetish at that point though. “Yeah I don’t have a great dick like Chad. I’m not a good lover like Chad. I’ll never measure up to the boys of her party days. I’ll never be them. I’ll always be less to her. I’m just beta bux.” That’s not really a positive mindset to have either - and that’s the only way you’d be able to “own it.” This - is again - assuming she actually feels that way too. And some women actually do! Some people feel that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:20 AM
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What? None of my female friends give two shits either way. I mean, they were happy that I was with someone and so forth because that brings me joy and they like the person I’m with too. Weird fucking post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:14 AM
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Idk man - I like women who bring money to the table. I say this as a millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:38 AM
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Be mixed race with least common race in USA. Have the worst time. Be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:43 AM
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If you want sex - ok. If you want a loving family and relationship where the person is an equal contributor in and out of the house - hard pass. You're just a sexpat or recreating 90-day fiance. Either is kinda shit, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:33 AM
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I think this really varies too much on the individual. I think it depends on how above average they are and how ambitious they are. Overall, I disagree. I've seen quite a few guys who are above average looking land a gal that is average-ish looking - and they seem happy with that. Good for them. Glad for them. I think part of the reason is that they were able to have opportunities and found a gal with a personality that made them happy. They settled on looks and found a personality that worked f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:30 AM
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That's 1/5 men never having been married by age 45. That is a depressing stat, my man. You can't even assume that most of those marriages are happy ones for the man either. We know most men settle. Imagine you're in a class and you were told that 1/5 guys in it will die alone. That's depressing AF. Ignoring the part where >1/20 will die before they even get to 45 with most being from suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:18 AM
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We aren’t talking about gay bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:50 PM
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I think interclass relationships are what are less common now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:05 AM
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I'm pretty sure it was an engineering club or something of the sort. Being in STEM is a surefire way to secure the incel tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:03 AM
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It definitely isn't more than 1 or 2 points. You're off your rocker. You're not 3 standard deviations above where you were because you just got in shape. Not a fucking chance. Height and face are way more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:52 PM
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And the man isn’t giving romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:13 PM
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Saving this. This is exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:04 PM
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You’ve got some claims in here that are just wrong. Normal people do have experiences that lead them to philosophies but they don’t know about the pills. Instead, they just say things like, “women want tall/handsome/rich/powerful/etc. men.” (Which is redpill/blackpill) There’s plenty more examples. It’s more often that men get pilled because they’re often the ones who have to confront their dating woes because they’re the hunters. If they’re hunting and not getting any results - they have to ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:47 PM
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Men definitely don’t have options. What crack are you smoking? The common complaint from women is that men are settling for them because a lot of women show interest in a guy who isn’t a Chad and then that’s the only woman that is interested in that man. So he takes her even though he’s not that interested because it’s the only one who is interested in him. Men overall definitely don’t have options. Your average man is struggling to get a date and many have never been on a date, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:32 PM
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Doesn’t change anything bro. Most of them are still doing arranged marriages overwhelmingly. You think Indian dudes in USA still don’t get arrange marriages? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:54 AM
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Does 50/50 go with finances as well? Cause that’s where I see things devolve 90%+ of the time. “I want 50-50 until I have to pay for something… then he should pay more.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:32 AM
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Different markets. Also India is the land of arranged marriages, g.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:27 AM
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The issue with this is that they won’t ever have anything controlling for having kids. Women without kids will definitely monkey branch way more often than women with. Divorces often have kids in tow. So, the stats won’t make much sense. I’d also argue that monkey branching is more of a younger woman thing than an older woman thing. Yes, it happens with older women but younger women are much more about this. The issue there is that the younger women aren’t likely to be married - so the stats wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:24 AM
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I don’t think most women are career oriented like men are though. So, I don’t think it’s fair to say women are working like men are. Cause - it just isn’t true generally speaking. (And we’re speaking generally. There’s obviously plenty of women who work harder than a lot of other men)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:17 PM
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I agree with your points but you should talk about this shit super early with anyone you want to be serious with. If you’re not on the same page about life goals (kids, retirement, money, homes, WLB, etc.) then you shouldn’t pursue a relationship with that person. Caveat, I do know quite a few women have almost no direction or big goals and almost entirely model all their wishes based upon what their (male) spouse wants. If you’re open to dating someone like that then it can sometimes work but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:14 PM
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Prefer 20s for sure. 30 is not too old but it is more challenging for starting a brand new relationship. Say you want 3 kids. You are a reasonable person and wait 5 years before first kid. (3 years together. 1 year engaged. 1 year married) You’re 35 by the time you’re trying to get pregnant. Your last kid will hopefully emerge by 40. That’s if things go well. Things don’t often go well. What I end up seeing is a lot of parents only having one kid. They had a kid in their mid to late 30s and were…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:10 PM
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Nice eyes is arguably going to be the hardest thing to match on here. Most men don’t have good eyes and this is one of the hardest traits of the face to change - always requires surgery to alter it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:07 PM
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I would say one reason men don’t try to emulate the first group of men is because their attractiveness mainly comes from their status. This is the hardest thing to emulate. We can’t all be successful musicians. I’ve had that physique before - it’s arguably the least attractive physique a man can have. What you’re attracted to is the fact they’re a musician - not really that they’re skinny dudes. Admittedly - I think some also have decent faces, which helps sell them more. The second type is far …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:05 PM
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Voice is physical. People don’t have deep voices just cause they want one. The way you are looked at is also physical. Canthal tilt, upper eyelid exposure, etc. all factor into how someone “looks” at you. Same with dominance - whether or not they’re physically imposing (tall, wide, etc.) is going to shift your mind about what is dominant. If someone with the body of a child tries to be dominant with you - it’s not going to be received as dominant. It would be nice if you looked at it from the id…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:59 PM
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lol - this is a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:56 PM
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What men find attractive in men is often not what women find attractive - or at least many women will not allow themselves to find it attractive because they presume certain physical traits must mean certain personal traits. E.g. not dating someone with a certain name because that name is associated with a certain type of personality. There’s videos out there about this about how people with X name look a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:55 PM
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Hmm - I think cute is something that people can fall in love with given a good amount of time but sexy is what gets you going places faster. Basically, cute can work but sexy almost always works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:53 PM
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Don’t obsess over status and money. Having a small group of friends and making as much money as your prospects is usually about sufficient. Redpill often acts as if having lots of “friends” and a high income (250k+) will increase your SMV a lot. It doesn’t. Maybe goes from a 5 to a 5.2. Definitely not 5 to 6. Looks is paramount in our under 35 demographic. Focus on looksmaxxing. If that fails then geomax and lower your standards to “person is alive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:06 PM
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Most people have a job... it doesn't mean that the job market and companies recruitment process sucks. Yep. The usual quip that I hate is: "You're not starving and dying in the street. I don't see a problem!" People assume that because you're at a job - you must love that job and want to be at that job because "it's a free market". Such an idiotic statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:42 PM
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Not everyone has the genetics for gym to give large results. I go to the gym and have for years. I lift weights and so forth. Did the whole chicken breast everyday thing for a long time. Genetics ain’t great for body building. I’ll probably have to do TRT and HGH to get any substantial results that are visible to the naked eye. This is what I mean by touching grass. You need to talk to more people. You’re in a bubble. You assume everyone can get jacked as you and your friends just naturally. (Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:09 PM
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Big words from flair. If attractive then I’d get matches from at least one of those profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:06 PM
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I do cause I know adorable doesn’t get matches. Thus, my profile reviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:20 PM
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Not to be too pedantic here but I’m pretty sure it’s much less than 1% of men make $1mm. You’re looking at like 0.3% or something. Same for $500k - etc. Those stats are just off quite a bit. Anyway - redpill is still quite delusional. It’s stuck in the 1980s. Blackpill is what I’d consider more relevant and up to date. We’re post redpill as far as most of the ideology goes at this point. If people think making $250k/yr will win women over - they should start talking to all the blackpilled tech w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:26 AM
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Cause it’s annoying to have to be a sole provider in an area where homes cost $3m. I am an exemplary person but I shouldn’t be forced to have to provide $800k+/yr income where I have to give up time with my wife and kids just because a woman doesn’t want to work. It’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:43 AM
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I don’t know if being found “adorable” is going to get any matches…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:55 AM
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Profile is there, bro. Profile is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:00 AM
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You can look at other profile versions, bro. It makes no difference. They all had zero matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:53 AM
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That’s how I normally look - lol. It’s still ugly. Hate to break it to you, man. Standards are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:09 AM
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There are men who make 10x that and have everything locked down. They still get nothing because they’re too short or ugly in the face. Looks is paramount. I know - I’ve been in this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:08 AM
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I've tried a lot of hobbies. Most hobbies are male dominated. Even for ones where there's supposed to be an even gender ratio - it ends up being mostly single men and married women. It's pretty wild. I have over a dozen hobbies, lol. Personality is fine. Hardly the issue. Again, it's a supply side issue. If my looks were better - I'd get somewhere on apps. If I met more single women in person, I'd be better off there too. Issue is that I can't win online cause ugly and I can't win in person caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:27 AM
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Why not try for younger women who have promising careers? I'm including these in the group. I'm including women with maximum earnings in their career before they ever hit that. It's a rough market, man. Being non-white doesn't help my case at all in our extremely fetishized market. Racial ambiguity like I have leaves me really leaving in the dust in our current society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:06 AM
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Nah, Manhattan or bust. I wouldn't bother with a LDR.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:56 PM
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It's just looks. I'm an ugly guy - lol. It doesn't help that I'm short and skinny. IRL - I have similar issues but it's not as pervasive as online. I can usually get average women with bad jobs to be interested in me. It's harder to pull women who make even half or a quarter of what I do - even if they're not attractive themselves. Biggest issue though is just meeting single women. None exist in my social circles and none exist in the hobbies I have too. I mostly meet a fuck ton of married women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:45 PM
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Not many are living in Manhattan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:43 PM
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Don’t use low income couples who grew up here as an example. It’s bad form, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:29 PM
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Mm - it really depends. Research is also a vague term here as there’s private and public research. IMO - tech is kinda seen as a monolith even if it isn’t at all. Very few people outside of tech understand the nuance. Soon as you work in tech - you get all the bad associations. I’ve tried to distance myself from saying I work as an engineer (as it often doesn’t really represent all the work I do either and it associates with the worst demo in tech). I’ve also tried to find ways to stop saying I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:28 PM
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It’s obnoxious. I’ve met a lot of folks in finance and you couldn’t find much worse people but there’s lots of women lining up to date them because it does have prestige.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:10 PM
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PPD - do we agree that bigger cities means more options and thus more pickiness? If so - can guy give examples of places that strike the perfect balance of sufficient options + relatively low pickiness? Extreme example of very picky and lots of options being nyc. Super dense. Lots of people. Very picky. Extreme example of very few options - random small towns of 5000 people nowhere near any cities. (Can’t speak to how picky folks there are generally. I’m non-white. So, I found they were always a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:24 PM
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Says the guy who is 6’5” and has had the world served to him on a platter. You’re completely out of touch with the rest of society. Touch grass, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:20 PM
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Ah, yes, the classic "just lift bro" argument. As if your looks are only dictated by the size of your muscles. Man, you gotta touch grass and talk to more people. Equinox is a self-selected crowd. The people in there are above average in everyway. (Facially, height, skin, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:00 PM
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This is a good point. It's part of why I married my ex. It's also why I find it so incredibly hard to be attracted to most women in the dating market. They're so incredibly jaded (and have bad takes).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:50 PM
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A lot of them don't have good jobs or are willing to contribute meaningfully. For all the preaching of tearing down the patriarchy - they still want someone to pay all their bills... Outside of that - I haven't really seen many on here who have a healthy relationship with the opposite sex. Most women here actively dislike men. A lot of FDS adjacent crew with it being on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:48 PM
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There’s more to that than just job. Tech is generally one of the lowest forms of status jobs in the professional world. It’s much lower than medicine, finance, law, etc. Tech is often associated with incel, autism, anti-social, social anxiety, ugly, immigrant, non-preferred race, short, fat, skinny, weak, etc. Any other professional career will give a higher status. You could be a patent troll lawyer, a doctor advocating for big pharma, or a banker at a hedge fund draining the middle class of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:43 PM
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The problem with your anecdotes is that you are already a bad judge of self-worth and so I can’t really trust your evaluation of other men either. “My friends who are quite average at 6’3” still get laid…” You’re kinda delusional, my man. You need to touch grass and talk to more normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:14 PM
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So you got lucky with height and face genetics. Congrats. Your experience is not going to be typical of most men who go to that gym - so why recommend it when most of the gals aren’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:05 PM
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Meh. I’d rather date someone who has already accomplished something than hoping they’ll accomplish something. It’s often that people get complacent. They get comfortable in a relationship and decide they don’t actually need to climb even though the whole reason you got with them was on the premise they were going to continue climbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:48 AM
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Yep. Lots of women also get upset when you’re at that income and they’re not even remotely close - and their response is like, “but but but!!!” Like get the fuck outta here with that entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:04 AM
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$350k in NYC trying to date fellow upper-middle/upper-class and wanting to split checks... Exactly. Dime a dozen here in NYC and SF. If you're looking for a gal who is actually worth a damn and contributes something to a relationship - you need to be making $1m+ before she even thinks about your TC being a plus rather than a checkbox. That's the issue - most men here don't want a girl who just wants a sugar daddy. Yet, the men who do wish to be sugar daddys (and never will be cause they're poser…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:28 AM
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There are some hot girls at the Equinox - I agree. However, the last thing they want is you. These women want an Instagram boyfriend - not just some random guy who is getting into modestly better shape at the gym. Your face and height genetics are going to be paramount for these gals - as they're about as shallow as it gets. Also - there's about as many gay men in Equinox as there are women... So, the odds aren't great, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:18 AM
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better life attitude Only if you're in poverty will money really improve this. Same is true for the rest of your stuff, tbh. You don't need to be wealthy to have any of those things - just not poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:16 AM
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As a multimillionaire - you're very wrong lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:14 AM
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Yep. It’s the way to go. Also, tbh, I feel like I’m bettering the world by having girls. There are more boys born into the world naturally anyway. By evening it out with girls - I’m helping the world a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:00 PM
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Do IVF and only have girls (this is a thing). It’s what I plan to do. The girls will never experience what we do. I’d highly recommend getting over the surgery thing. It limits you. It’s the same as thinking people should just love your skinny body. Yes - ideal world. Realistically - not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:57 PM
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Ah, ok. Yeah, name recognition helps with that. That said - I’ve worked at a household name too. It didn’t help at all - lol. Just focus on gym. If you’re at FAANG or whatever - you can afford a personal trainer and a good gym. Become a gym bro and get the physique. A good trainer will tell you what supplements and diet to get. After you get that working - you can start investigating cosmetic surgery. It’s what I ended up doing and it has helped but I’ve not gone far enough. I’m gonna do some mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:53 PM
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How old are you? Cause I don’t hear this at all. To be fair - most actually hate my job - lol. (Tech)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:47 PM
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I agree with this. It really doesn't matter short of checking a box. You will not be discredited as quickly to women with a higher income than before but it will not elevate you at all. If you're ugly - no amount of money is going to fix your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:24 PM
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Money is one of those things where if you make 1x to 3x the woman's - it basically is meaningless other than checking a box (it's checking a box in the same way that "he's alive" is checking a box). If you make 10x or 100x though... Now it starts to be a thing. If you make less than them - it's also a (bad) thing. $10M+ NW wealth is where it starts to become noticeable and worth mentioning. That said, I know many people with 8-10 fig wealth and in many cases you couldn't tell the 8 from the 9 in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:00 PM
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I'd like to have a family and kids. Should be pretty obvious why I'm not able to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:42 AM
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If men had that bar - the majority would die alone. Women are uncompromising. Men are. You can easily see this by the number of single and never married men around the USA. That number constantly rises as people age even though men are fewer and fewer due to suicide being over 4x the rate of women. Did you know that close to 10% of men kill themselves before age 40? Women are much happier to die alone than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:07 PM
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IMO, the nice guy is too broad a term. As soon as I read this - I knew this was going to be a good comment. Definitely a good comment! This should be top of the thread!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:30 PM
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The surveys done in this community would say quite the opposite. We have an overrepresentation of the UMC here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:27 PM
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This is because men aren't in a position to where they can demand such things. They just want the bare minimum to get by. Be someone they don't find physically repulsive and doesn't take too much away from their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:25 PM
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Maybe we should discourage women from obsessing over nebulous "masculine" qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:23 PM
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The issue with big cities is that a lot of options creates incredibly picky women. You can often find more success as an average man in smaller cities than in big ones. Women will wait until they run into a man with their standards in big cities - in smaller ones they can’t wait because there aren’t enough opportunities. Social events mostly. Bars and clubs here are pretty anti-social. Different than Europe. It’s mostly groups of folks going together and having no interest in socializing with ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:16 PM
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I know hundreds - dude. It’s not a small sample. It’s a lot of guys. Nyc is hella racist, man. Lots of gals really only going for tall white finance bros. Anything else is seen as settling and stigmatized. I only know a couple guys below 5’6”. The rest are all 5’7”+ but height is a concern still for these guys. Most women we meet are only dating men who are 6ft+. Preference is for white men too. So if you’re Asian - it’s tougher. If you’re middle eastern - it’s very tough. (Hugely anti-middle ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:34 AM
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I just generally disagree. I live in SF and NYC. I see many men who just aren’t up to modern standards. Lots and lots of single men in both. I know many. They can’t change the bad face, height, or race. Even the ones who hit the gym ain’t getting anywhere. All of them aren’t overweight either. I don’t think I am actually friends with a single overweight straight man - now that I think about it - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:08 AM
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lol - I'm saving this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:50 AM
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It does though, honey. It really does. Women are extremely often denying themselves what they want when they cannot get something. It is SUPER common. Sad you cannot see that when it's so plainly in front of your face. I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:46 AM
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Eh - I disagree. You can be quite awkward socially and make hundreds of thousands. Silicon Valley has plenty of these jobs. Wall street has had these too (quants, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:37 AM
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I think it's unfair to say all disadvantages can be overcome though. Ultimately, a bad face isn't something you can just bootstrap yourself over. Same for many things. "Some" people having it happen doesn't mean it can happen for everyone who tries. This is like looking at billionaires and extrapolating that anyone can become a billionaire just because a few thousand people have made it happen. That's not how it works, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:32 AM
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Fetishization of white men can co-exist with black women desiring to date black men. It's also a bit of how black women have to be. Black women are cited as often being the least desirable. I don't personally get why anyone cares so much for any race but we live in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:29 AM
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The men aren’t kidnapping the women. Let’s be clear. The women have a choice and are choosing to go with the man back to the states - if they choose to do such. Don’t infantilize women like they’re children. Women have the right and ability to choose and should be considered fully capable beings of making their own decisions. You’re acting like women are toddlers and that’s incredibly sexist, demeaning, and objectifying of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:28 PM
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There’s actually very few of these women. The women in the US aren’t looking for someone who is just stable. They want a lot more than that. They won’t settle for an ugly man who is just stable. That’s the issue. Women abroad sometimes have lower standards and are more focused on stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:20 PM
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It’s how I’ve met every woman I ever slept with. I did social dancing and so did they. It’s how we met. Common hobby. It’s a pretty good one as far as interests/hobbies - considering most social interests/hobbies are incredibly male dominated. Something like rollerskating has made a comeback over Covid but it’s sporadic in terms of interest and I don’t expect it to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:30 PM
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I can tell you as a man who is living through 27-36 and has experienced <27 - it definitely isn’t. <27 is much better. You’re not balding. You don’t gain fat as easily. You bounce back from physical injuries quicker. You near 30 - that all changes really fast. Most people won’t notice cause they lower their risk profile but if you keep doing double black diamonds, sending it off jumps, play sports, etc. you’ll find out quickly that yep… age is a thing. You’re working from this position that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:26 AM
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I’d take it up 10,000%. In fact - I plan on doing it anyway. fatFIRE for myself. I ain’t working a day longer than I absolutely need to. She can work on getting her ass to retirement by herself - pull her own weight. There’s more than enough opportunity. Similarly - I don’t expect any future wife to contribute to my retirement. She strikes IPO gold and wants to do it - fuck it then why not. But that’s never happening - lol. Finding a woman who will do that is exceptional and should not be consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:21 AM
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It’s an interesting thought in terms of constraining a partner and whatnot. But I’m not exactly super fixed on how this person has to behave or what their desires need to be. I’m just speaking more generally that many people I know literally can’t even figure out if they want kids or not unless they’re with someone. Same with some other stuff like being career oriented or owning a house or traveling often or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:08 AM
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AF/BB women are inherently different than RP men in that RP men know what they are - AF/BB women are in denial about what they are. RP men label themselves. AF/BB women are labeled by others. They distinctly different in this sense. One is very self-aware of their decisions and one isn’t. Due to this - I think many women fall into AF/BB just naturally. Whereas RP is usually more of a reckoning moment. Most men start purple pilled - imo. They see women as different but not as “creatures” like mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:48 PM
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We know… maybe let’s not rehash the same subject for the tenth time this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:49 AM
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It’s only going to be a thing when you’re working with people who have extremes. If you’re someone who has never left their hometown or gone much of anywhere and you pair up with Carmen Sandiego then yeah - maybe Carmen will not be as pleased. That said - who knows. You have many more hurdles in the way than travel compatibility. This is like arguing over which side of the bed you sleep on. It’s really not a huge deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:41 AM
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The average American has two kids and lives in a house - not a 1bd apartment. It’s not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:12 PM
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If only women believed such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:01 PM
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You spend way too much time cleaning then. It shouldn’t take more than 2 hours on a Sunday to make an apartment near spotless. The most time consuming part being the bathroom usually due to tile/grout and what not if you only do this once every 6 months. Even then - if you do it regularly it will not take that long. Vacuuming <1000sqft is no more than 30 minutes unless you have 100 stairs. Countertops don’t take more than 10 minutes. Garbage is 5 minutes. Vacuuming upholstery is another 15 minut…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:59 PM
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You’re not talking to enough men and the ones you do probably don’t even feel comfortable talking to you. Many men are feeling unwanted these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:10 AM
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Expecting the man to do everything for you. Very patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:48 PM
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Again - most women don’t get off from PIV alone. No amount of coaching is going to get them to climax. 75% of women need clitoral stimulation. So, you’re just wrong… again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:46 PM
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Tbh - I would’t ascribe some kind of intelligent design to orgasms. It’s like saying we all have pollen allergies for a reason when we don’t. It’s just a mistake. Edit: I wouldnt*
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:45 PM
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It’s just not. The statistics show it. They’d be cumming on ONS otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:43 PM
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My experience is most women just won’t even bother touching themselves when that’s all they need to do. It’s like - just do it or get the vibrator. You ain’t gonna orgasm without that stimulation. Most women need toys these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:47 PM
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Just cause they’re attracted doesn’t mean it’s gonna be super easy to climax. Most women don’t get off without clitoral stimulation - if chad decides he doesn’t want to provide that (and many women act helpless and won’t initiate taking control of their own pleasure) then women are not gonna climax that often. The other thing is that it’s very mental for many women and they’re not great at climaxing with new partners even with proper stimulation. Women go for the guys thinking it’ll be different…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:39 PM
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"Women wanted a man who was above average *and* wasn't a douche." doesn't invalidate what your friend is saying. You literally just said "they want an above average man who IS ALSO NOT A DOUCHE". Which is basically saying they the standard is EVEN HIGHER THAN MEN CLAIM IT TO BE. Looks are still almost everything with online and increasingly so with IRL too. Your friend needs everything he can get. He's short - by women's standards - and black on top of it. Assuming you were otherwise equal in fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:07 AM
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There isn’t one. Men and women’s sexuality is different. Women aren’t as attracted to a man’s baseline form. Some are attracted to the pinnacle forms you’ll find in a very few men. (Models, etc.) Some skin showing for those women will work but you need to be a model and in pinnacle shape. Both of which ain’t happening. So, basically, there’s nothing. This is why men have such a hard time attracting women physically. You have to attract them emotionally for the overwhelming majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:22 AM
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The high murder rate isn’t to random though in places like Chicago. It’s gang violence. It’s easy to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:26 AM
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Nah. It’s still way more work for men. Way more. Most men will never see anything out of online dating anyway. Whereas IRL - both men and women get something. Men online will not get anything. Even millionaires online will not get anything - as it’s all looks based. IRL - you can play up different attributes. Online it’s only your face that matters. So it favors women because men are far less selective than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:58 AM
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Because women don’t like the process even though it does favor them. They want a meet cute story and not put in any effort when they do meet someone. Online dating does require some effort even if it does favor women very heavily. In person doesn’t because they just sit back and do nothing - literally nothing. The men will approach and they’ll get courted eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:36 AM
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You’re living in a weird delusional world. This isn’t how most women are meeting men - even young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:34 AM
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Tbh - I don’t think many of these women are meeting randos off IG - they usually have significant mutuals or have met IRL but never made a super solid connection. Women aren’t getting DM’d by random men and saying yes and that’s what leads to most relationships. That’s delusional, bro. These women are mostly getting DM’d by guys they already know or have met. The men could ask these women out IRL but they just do it over IG.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:04 AM
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The reason women are doing this is because A) we need a new boogeyman for big media and B) men who don’t get laid regularly are seen as pathetic and non-manly. So, women do anything they can to encourage the suicidal deaths of men. This is why they use labels like this and other such methods - it’s to encourage men to kill themselves. We see this mentality all over PPD. Why do you think men have 4x the suicide rate of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:02 AM
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I’d say even more since the label is too easily thrown around. I really think the vocal angry incel type is maybe 5% of the incel population. Incels are just wildly common in our mainstream life. Almost every dude out there is an incel until they’re not cause almost every dude wants sex but isn’t getting sex… until they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:01 AM
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Ugly combined with bad social skills. Throw in some anxiety and some backwards beliefs about women because they’ve never been able to get close enough (women in general have more of these but we just put up with it) - you’ll get the recipe. It’s mostly their looks that set them back but then their reaction after is what kept them back. Sometimes people respond to this kind of stimulus in a way that is counterproductive rather than one that is neutral or productive. Often that’s the issue - they …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:59 AM
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Men use them because it’s something you can use without any consequence. It’s relatively low effort as well depending on how serious you are. The only issue is time and money. (Photos, memberships, liking, etc. all can cost time and money) The reason men use them so much is because it’s known that there are some women on it who are interested and single. This is basically not a given in any other avenue you’d go to in real life. Where can you go that the women are practically guaranteed to be si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:54 AM
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They favor women. They’re just another approach to use for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:50 AM
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For most men though this is basically worthless. You need to be handsome AF and have some clout for IG to be worth a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:50 AM
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Nah, this shit happens all the time. We have black and Indian men at parties where I live getting called creeps all the time because the white women are racist AF. The guys are upstanding dudes - they’re just not tall, blonde, and blue eyed. So, immediately they’re creeps and getting called such. We’ve had to kick some women out over this shit. It’s blatant and common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:46 AM
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Because at a social event - people will talk. You will lose your good reputation and not get invited to social events anymore and may lose some friends. These days - people are very willing to believe anything a woman says about a man. I think the pendulum has swung a bit too far on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:45 AM
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More single mothers. Back then you got married when you had a kid. It’s still true for some European countries to some extent. It’s not true at all in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:27 PM
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How old are you? You sound ancient and out of touch if you’re using magazines as a reference. You also don’t realize that magazines are capitalist entities and look to make money. They’re gonna do whatever it takes to make money and that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:34 PM
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Sorry sweaty, you need to just learn to read a woman’s mind. Anything less than clairvoyance is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:39 PM
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Too many low effort threads and reposts. I think this is why the quality is so low. I have little to no reason to put in effort for threads when someone will post the same generic copy pasta shit in 8 hours. There needs to be purging plus no allowing of reposts within the same month. I’m fine if this means there’s only 10% of the number of threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:57 AM
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Yes and they often get shit on for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:48 AM
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50/50 should be standard. It should only change when another party is offering to pay more and that should not be expected. For instance - I’ve gone on some trips with a gal who makes 1/10th what I do. (I make a lot) She offers to pay 50/50 or at least her part. I’m fine with that. Later - I’m like, look - I want to treat you and let’s go somewhere even nicer… so I pay for the flights, the hotels, the meals, everything. This is expensive - thousands of dollars. But I’m willing to front it becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:08 PM
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The comments so far are so bland and generic that you’re never going to get anything real, op. These women just don’t know. They don’t think about it. They just shop and eventually try something on and find out it fits. They don’t think - ahh what size am I, what colors do I like, what textures do I want, etc. they just shop blindly. This is why you’re seeing takes that sound like they’re from 50s housewives like “I hope he is nice to the help.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:38 PM
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Curious - you work for a top company but do you make top pay? You’re a valedictorian at your university but is it an Ivy League? I actually have never heard of a valedictorian for a university - lol. I mean - it makes sense but I figured there were always too many for it to matter. Many more “successful” women get passed over because this has always stuck out to me - women can earn money but they will never spend it on you. Men earn their money and spend it on their family - that’s often their r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:32 PM
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It’s 40%. The number for women is 80% btw. I believe these days it’s closer to 75 and 85. At least it’s not less than 10% like it was in some times. https://psmag.com/.amp/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:26 PM
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I do like the concept of this question. I wish people focused on that more than the specifics of your situation. Maybe this would be better asked in a different post without all these details of your own. The truth is - most people don’t care about you or your situation. When people say work on yourself - they’re just telling you to go away. When you ask for advice - people are just saying things so you go away. Someone who cares would check in on you and call you regularly and do things without…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:34 AM
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More women - like anywhere - but not more single women between 25-34 (where it matters). Men are born more often than women. 106:100
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:24 AM
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Yep. Those things women do are for other women. I don’t know why women keep trying to say they do it for men when they don’t. Men don’t fucking care and hate that women try to gaslight us into thinking we do when we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:50 PM
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Sshhh. Let the city slicker think he knows what rural is - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:47 PM
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Moving to a major city won’t magically fix it for most men. You’re an above average man as evident by your online dating success. Most men don’t get any dates out of online - let alone sex. Location-cel is definitely an issue for some folks who are in super small communities and there’s no social outlets at all or there’s just no young people period but … moving to a city actually can be worse for many men. When the option pool grows - women become far more choosey than men. Men’s standards stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:45 PM
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Definitely damaging to both genders. This has been going on for decades now though. I suggest reading books by Robert Putnam about the subject. His most popular is from the 1990s to give you an idea of how long this issue has been growing and festering. We had the same issue around WW1 time btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:20 PM
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Read some Robert Putnam. This trend of social isolation was happening well before the Internet. Get with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:19 PM
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The usual trope is that women do all the emotional labor and most of the housework including cooking and cleaning and then all the scheduling/kids stuff. This has never been the case in my relationships or in the ones of my friends. Typically 50/50 or men doing more in almost all areas. As usual - this isn’t common in UMC relationships like PPD focuses on but PPD uses the wrong stats as always. It’s much closer to 50/50 or even inverted since the men in UMC are usually close to heroic in compari…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:00 PM
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🙄 I get you’re into HODL and that philosophy but don’t apply it to real life - you’re not gonna win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:40 AM
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I think I agree to some extent overall but getting to the top of the ladder isn’t just choose a profession and stick with it. If you want to make $400k+/yr there are a decent amount of proven ways to do it. They can be really hard but they’ll work and you’re gonna make the money. The problem with what you’re suggesting is that getting to top of the ladder is as feasible for typical men - it just isn’t. Biology gets in the way of getting to top of the ladder. Let’s say you’re 5’2” as a man - you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:29 AM
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80/20 is a general rule but truth is that it could easily be 50/5 as well. That still means the next 15 are getting double what they should in an even distribution. Tbh - I think that likely is more common the case. For every guy who sleeps with 100 women, there’s gotta be like 20 dudes who didn’t ever get any to make it even remotely close to even.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:18 AM
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The fact that an equivalent version of me as a woman is almost impossible to find single should be evident of how easy it is. It is trivial to be a woman with my matching attributes when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:24 PM
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Such a weird incel take. This is such a niche and I don’t think even 1% of men fall into this line. After all - to be in the 1% financially isn’t even that hard. You don’t need to be gifted in any sense to get there. So, now imagine you’re in the 1% financially but now you need to also be in the top <5% of looks as well? You can see this is basically 1 in 1000 - if even that. Due to the Internet age and our hyperconnectedness - we see way more examples of this than IRL. For instance, I’ve only r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:21 PM
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We’re in a similar boat. I’m also not tall or particularly good looking. It’s basically impossible to get matches on apps due to these factors. It’s also gonna be the common reason for most men on PPD. Looks and the ratio are the biggest factors because looks is almost 100% of what online is about. That’s how you get a match to begin with - your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:46 AM
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Same issues as with older women - difficult to find ones that meet my criteria. I’ve found plenty of women who would date me but next to none that I’m interested in marrying. When you get to 30+ women - it’s even more grim. I’m a 1% man looking for a 1% woman - it’s gonna be tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:06 PM
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Let’s consider a woman who is 30+ and single. Why is she single in our dating market where women have many options? It’s either cause she’s really bad goods or won’t settle. Either case - really bad for most men who are 30+. Let’s consider a woman who is <25. Why is she single? Bad goods, won’t settle, or not enough time in the market. It’s completely reasonable to have not found an optimal match by 25 - by 30+? It’s not likely unless you intentionally avoiding dating (and why would I want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:22 AM
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You’re looking at men who age really well. Trust me - most men hit the wall by like 30-35. Go to Poland - dudes are straight up bald and look like they’re in their mid 30s when they’re in their mid 20s. Men age horribly in many countries. I’d highly recommend taking pills to prevent going bald. It’s a serious issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:19 AM
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They just made up the number. I’d also say that’s a high number. You’re telling me that 1 in 5 dudes is fucking like it’s no tomorrow? Sorry but my experience shows there’s no way that’s possible. Chad/alpha is like 5% of dudes or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:16 AM
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Weird. I was married to someone who was 24 when I was 31. I’ve met plenty of women who dated men who had an even bigger age gap or similar. So, I know plenty of women who would date someone 30+ while being 20-26 themselves including my exwife. I don’t think the majority of women want that but it’s common enough. Personally, I’m mostly looking at women near 25-26 myself and the women don’t seem bothered by my age. So… 🤷‍♂️ I also don’t think the majority of men are disgusted by promiscuous women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:56 PM
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Which does more? I don’t know. Both end up settling but I think men settle before they even begin dating and women settle after they’ve been dating for a while. Men often know they have no chance with good looking women. They will shoot their shot if given a chance but know it’ll never go anywhere. They rarely if ever get a genuine chance anyway so why not. They are settling mentally before they even have tried. To be honest - this might be the part that hurts many men more than it should and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:50 PM
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You have to play the real life game where you’re in a close social circle with them (work, hobby, friends, etc.) and they’re forced to interact with you over long periods but you always present yourself in a way that is not just friendly but romantic as well. This often means being friendly but not friends. You never act the way you would with a friend - you keep some distance and don’t open up about everything like you would with a friend. Instead you treat them like a romantic interest the ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:24 PM
2

Oh yeah - it’s a if you know you know thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:51 PM
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A lot of these gals didn’t sleep with anyone from online. Some I know did but they would also sleep with random people IRL too. Also - sleeping with someone doesn’t mean they want a relationship with that person. A lot do the women go to this online dating thing for relationships and not just sex. It’s a different mindset. Different times, different moods. I’ve got far lower standards for women I’d sleep with than for women I want a relationship with. A lot of women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:49 PM
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It’s probably obvious what subs I’ve been active in on other accounts - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:46 PM
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For a lot of the women I know (they get many matches) it goes like this: “I want someone I click with.” They go on a few dates and talk to people online. It never really clicks and they burn out well before having gone on something like 25 dates. They write off online dating for a while and say, “it’s just not full of what I want.” I ask them how many men they meet in real life that they click with. I ask them “we were at this multi day event with 200 people. How many men did you click with ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:50 PM
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Eh. I disagree. Millionaire here - they don’t care. Maybe a few in a trashy area but most won’t IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:55 AM
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They can but I’ve never heard of such a woman. Even the hyper religious ones will wait to have sex until marriage with their first (and likely only) husband. This seems like a very contrived scenario. Rules like only having sex after 3 dates is common and fine enough. Waiting multiple months or a dozen dates or until marriage is going to be uncommon for our culture. Very uncommon. At both of those points - I’d wonder if someone is asexual or something else… subtracting religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:51 AM
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It's a Q4W...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:14 AM
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It could also be that you two attract very different men to begin with. ​ The kind of men some women attract is very different than others - even if they seem somewhat superficially similar. So... unless you're both approaching the same men - this experience is a bit moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:12 AM
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How is this news? Most women here will agree with this. Everyone is in agreement and this is not a controversial statement at all. Most women find most men not physically attractive - yes… duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:06 AM
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A lot of men are just missing that one aspect. I’m an example of it. I was married and had that figured out but it didn’t work out. Losing that person had such a large toll that I ended up not progressing as far with work, my net worth, etc. I have had to focus so much more on getting a partner and that takes away from other goals. Also - this standard that you must be happy and satisfied without a partner is just moving the goalposts blueshit. It’s not realistic at all. Most people are not that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:04 AM
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Watch amateur porn if you want something more “realistic”. I don’t watch porn made by big production studios usually. Typically I watch more handmade or side project type porn and I find that’s more enjoyable. It’s still not gonna reproduce the every moment realities of actual sex but I don’t think anyone really expects porn to be just like real life. It’d be like playing counter strike and expecting to be able to headshot every target from a billion miles away like you do in the game. Desensiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:59 AM
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Entitlement from either sex isn’t great. The reason people don’t like the body count thing is because it sounds like super immature teenager shit. (Cause it is) Most of the guys who care about body count have never gotten any and are upset that they didn’t get any. They only have this standard because they’re envious of women who do get it and they need to rationalize the reason they’re not getting women is because they just can’t find a pure maiden like themselves. It’s dumb and immature. It re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:55 AM
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UMC isn’t 25% dude - no stat out there is close to that. It’s much closer to top 5%. We’re talking about doctors, lawyers, etc. Upper class is more absurd - it’s for people who don’t even have to work anymore. Maybe they do work but it’s more for their own enjoyment/fulfillment rather than necessity. That number is usually quantified by NW and that’s typically a 1-2% NW kinda thing too. Overall - you’re just saying the same hypergamy shit everyone here knows and saying what every man here says t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:49 AM
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As usual - you're not even arguing against points I made - you're just making up strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:45 PM
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It hurts everyone - how is that not news...? You've mostly proposed things through a capitalistic lens - especially sex work. That's incredibly cringe. Most leftists are against sex work because it's mostly a way to take advantage of women who are in bad economic situations and take advantage of men who have no other mens for intimacy due to the individualization of our society. Not everyone is a billionaire who just has sex with hot escorts for fun and not every woman who is doing sex work is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:07 PM
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When you don’t make enough money to afford to rent an apartment in your city and put food on the table, I consider that a major problem regardless of gender. Capitalism and rent-seeking landlords have entered the chat. Way to miss the forest for the trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:00 PM
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It is hardly changing the goalposts at all bub. It’s asking women to even get involved. They’re notably absent and actively making it why “men’s rights” is akin to terms like incel, neckbeard, redditor, misogynist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:51 PM
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Just post in automod if you’re going to have such an off topic comment. Also - Something something lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:49 PM
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I think your last sentence is in contention. The agreement even amongst women is that they’re all sharing the same guys who won’t commit to them. The average guys aren’t getting anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:48 PM
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Ah yes - men have been notably absent just like straights have been notably absent from any gay movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:47 PM
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Fine. Just make it to where men don’t have to pay and in return they get no custody rights and are no longer the legal father of the kid. They’re the same as John Doe as far as that kids goes. What about that then? Give men the option to not be involved and I bet women will start making different choices about who she lets ejaculate in her. Those 40% of children born out of wedlock aren’t rapes and rapes that go to birth none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:45 PM
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Since you kept whining about me not replying. The reason is because there’s more to breakdown here than I want to go over. I’m writing from mobile and don’t like the UX for long posts and replying to them. I’m gonna stop at 3 cause mobile. 1) Economic opportunities that are more targeted towards men would be good. Maybe this means making bachelors degrees less necessary - that’s fine. It’s more male centric in its issue but not entirely. This kinda falls back into the “men’s issue is that they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:31 PM
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You can’t have it both ways, bub. You can’t have personal autonomy and then no responsibility. It’s one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:20 PM
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So… you should reply to automod, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:19 PM
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You can’t have it both ways. It’s either my body my choice or it isn’t. If you’re not allowing men to have the option around abortion then it’s all on women. AFAIK - there’s no option for men to give up child support payments, to choose to not have a kid, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:17 PM
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You really do think that society is run by an average man? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:16 PM
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No - I want women to show that they are willing to help solve them. I want to see how women will specifically tackle these issues and tackle issues that women are mostly responsible for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:20 PM
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And women let them ejaculate in them. 🙄 what happened to my body my choice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:17 PM
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Idk - ask the women who left their husbands and became single mothers where the dad is. Many women choose to have babies when they know the father won't stick around. Can you really blame it on the father when they didn't choose to have a kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:46 AM
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I think you're misconstruing the words. Women got the ick specifically because of his feminist tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:45 AM
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If I get the gist - stop enforcing toxic masculinity (e.g. boys don't cry) traits. I can get behind that - do you think women can? As we can see with adults and many stories here on PPD - women get the ick when their boyfriends cry in front of them or need emotional support. (To a degree that men definitely do not do with women)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:43 AM
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Sure - I agree with these. How do you think women should change here? What specific actions and behaviors would women need to take for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:41 AM
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Yes, something from almost *30* years ago that wasn't around *men's* issues but around *black men's* issues. Yes, black men's issues are important and should be highlighted but that's an intersectional issue and not one for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:39 AM
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Then I'd say you should really make that a central point of your comment. Something like breast cancer awareness, funding, and activities around it but for men's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:37 AM
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Although these things are nice and welcomed - they don’t sound like things that women are going to do. This sounds like stuff that men need to do. “We should just fix men and give them places to be fixed.” Is basically what this comment sounds like. It also doesn’t sound like women would be involved at any step in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:20 AM
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Ever been to a women’s march? Ever notice how a large portion of it is men? We don’t have such things for men or men’s issues. Maybe think about that rather than being so emotional and reactionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:18 AM
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Solid response. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:47 AM
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Supposedly some people are unable to use abstractions or analogies. I wonder if you’re one of those people. If so - sorry but I don’t think there’s going to be a good way to explain it to you in a short period of time then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:45 AM
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Do you think feeling inadequate as a man is something men feel in complete isolation of society? Do you think it’s other men who are putting them down? (It’s not)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:38 AM
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Just reply to automod dude. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:20 AM
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Your third paragraph is the only one that has a place where women advocate for men and change for men. (Which is good and what I’m looking for) The rest is victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:19 AM
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This whole comment comes off as “men and women need to but really just men and actually all behavioral changes will be on the men.” I don’t see a single substantial behavioral change from women in here. Man - this place is just depressing. Women really don’t give a shit and don’t want to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:16 AM
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I think if that’s the only thing you’re noticing as a complaint then I think you need to start making specific effort to notice what men are actually complaining about. It seems like you’ve honed in on one thing that just makes you upset and made that to be what all men are talking about on this subreddit. The lack of casual sex for average men is really just one small point amongst a sea of much bigger points.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:14 AM
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I do think if this doesn’t get any reasonable responses from women - men should really just opt out of this subreddit. It’s really a pointless subreddit at that point. Women aren’t going to make any concessions - especially PPD women. To me, I don’t see any selflessness by practically any of the women here in PPD and I wanted to confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:07 AM
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This kinda comes off as like - “I make sure my husband keeps making money for me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:04 AM
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lol - the silence from women in here is defeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:55 AM
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Reply to automod dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:39 AM
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Blaming this on men is a bit silly. You could just as well blame women for all the guys being wary of marriage or settling down because women divorce so often. Many women like to make themselves seem like a victim with any issue. “Woe is me” is a very trendy thing for women today. So, yeah, they turn every single situation into one where they’re a victim. Is there a single situation you can name where women are profusely claiming that they have the upper hand and aren’t victims? Try one. I bet y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:01 AM
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I disagree with your solution. It implies there are a plethora of places that are woman dominated and women would be open to approach at these spaces. It’s a fucking fact that women stay in more than men do. Women sit at home and watch Netflix, bro. That’s all they do. If you’re lucky - maybe you find one who’s into a local knitting club or yoga or is an active runner/hiker/tennis player but that’s about fucking it. They don’t go out like men do. Just compare lesbians vs gay men. Compare. There’…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:49 PM
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It’s bad for everyone. If women don’t know what they want - they go hunting for shiny stuff and not realize what they wanted wasn’t just shiny. It just looked shiny and that’s why it was appealing. I know a lot of women like this and it’s frustrating AF. They end up getting pumped n dumped constantly and are always thinking something must be wrong with all men. This causes problems for men because they’re not getting sought after when they’re not shiny. They might be everything the woman is look…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:46 PM
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Strawman. Men are trying to get women to realize their standards are like the saying - “you’re writing checks that your body can’t cash.” Most women are looking for something that they themselves are never going to be able to obtain. Once they hit “the wall” or just get older - sometimes these standards fall. The other thing is - I think many men want women to just fucking think about what they want in a partner and really think about it for a long time and be upfront with what they want. The st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:08 PM
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Well I don’t think we’re all looking for friends here - are we? If you want a relationship - looks is minimum 50% of the equation no matter what approach you’re using.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:00 PM
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Ooph. Crypto bro trying to speak about shit he knows nothing about again. Look here ‘toshi, you’re not gonna get laid by being a jackass who makes people laugh alone. There is a difference between someone who makes people laugh and someone who makes people laugh at him. Often people fall into group 2 and assume that’s what is sufficient. You’re not gonna win over women by being a clown. Instead your humor cannot be self-deprecating and that’s the only way you’ll win over women with humor a bit. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:41 AM
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Assuming the worst? I’d tell him to fix his low income, move out of his parents place, etc. That needs to be fixed first especially as a man who is 30… That is just sad. I know the economy is rough and all but just become a fucking STEMcel and rake in the money. Same time work out everyday and get some better habits going. Do leg day. Get ripped. Lose any excess body fat (get to less than 10%). Take some anti-hairloss pills, get a skin routine going, etc. I don’t think men who are virgins at lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:27 AM
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I’ve done this with success. That said - I had met them in person but nothing physical had ever developed. It’s only later when we weren’t in person that we talked on the phone and video chat that we were like, “oh we both like each other. We should see one another in person again.” So we did and went traveling together and all that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:19 AM
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The fact you get past their filtering on tinder says you’re a pretty hot dude at least in the face, bro. You can’t really use your success as an overly good looking man to represent all average in the face short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:15 AM
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It’s funny how this is something they haven’t responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:12 AM
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They don’t get them from cold approach - lol. You’re delusional. Cold approach is just for chads. People use cold approach purely to reduce approach anxiety and general social anxiety. It’s not good for anything else as a normie. Warm approach is how average men usually get their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:05 AM
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I’m not convinced that a “ton of women” are in them if they’re immediately grabbed up. Being snatched up immediately implies there’s still a lot more men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:04 AM
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It’s probably the most underrated part of the entire comment - lol. I was quite happy when I managed that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 10:33 PM
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Less picky is different than only basing on personality. If women were less picky in general - it’s not clear if my situation would be any better. It might be. It might not! If every woman just settled for whatever came their way then I’d have to change my strategy to dating 18 year olds or someone just out of college I guess. Neither of which is ideal… Looks are mainly what is holding me back. I don’t have good frame, height, or face. I’m average at best and we all know average doesn’t cut it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:06 PM
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Therein lines the issue. Most average men are going to get nowhere with this advice. If average men only listened to this advice - they’d never get laid. A lot of women are the type to warm up to an average man. The way the game works is very different for chads vs normies. Chads can use this instant attraction thing to determine what to do but normies can’t. They need to play the long game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:35 AM
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I think it’s the difference between chad life and non-chad life. I’m in a similar boat as you. I can’t recall almost any of them giving that level of interest up front. One of my friends also just got into a relationship with a guy who she had spent a week with at a camp with a bunch of other people. She had talked to this guy for hours. She didn’t even think she liked him until a month or two later. You can guess what he is - not a chad. Very few women are going to feel that magnetic attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:18 AM
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I would just say that not all women are enthusiastic from the get go and I think this will be more and more true the lower you are in looks. Many women are also extremely guarded and will hide any enthusiasm - which is just a defense mechanism from having been used up or attempted to be used by various men. So even if you are doing everything right - many won’t even bother making it obvious they’re into you because they want to be around you longer to see what kind of person you really are. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:09 AM
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It’s a fantasy thing for a lot of gals. Also - what woman is going to be cheating with you and be like, “huh - you know you’re actually kinda the same, maybe slightly worse than my boyfriend.” It’s part of the fantasy for both parties. The woman experiences someone who is exotic and sweeps them off their feet, they just couldn’t resist, and the man gets to have this incredible sexual power. It’s a win-win for both parties with this fantasy. That said - tbh - it’s weird. I’ve had sex with girls w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:55 AM
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Cold approach mostly relies on looks - you’re not going to do well as an average man. You’re better off with warm approach. Living in a major city actually makes it worse. Women have more options and therefore will look for someone who checks all their boxes. An average man is unlikely to do that and they’ll pass on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:49 AM
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The number of women into EFT and go karts is definitely way less than men. Do you even talk to women? Do you actually do any of this stuff? Cause I do and there’s almost no women at it. You’ll usually have the one token girl out of a group of 30-50 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:48 AM
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This is just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:46 AM
2

That is just luck. When you roll a 20 instead of a 1, it’s luck. Some men will continue to roll 1’s for most of their life. It’s just bad luck. With enough time and rolls - you can try your chances more. But sometimes the die is loaded and you’re fucked. Sometimes you’ll get too discouraged to keep rolling the die. It’s luck, man. It really is. Don’t sugarcoat it for people. Luck is a huge portion of why people succeed and fail in this world and that’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:09 PM
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From children - not men. Men just jerk off to porn. What’s the point of filling up your Instagram with random thots unless that’s entirely how you use Instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:01 PM
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Meh. I think this is only true for some women. This is very much YMMV. Some women don’t mind this as much and some men would hate for this to happen. For instance - I think I would be devastated if a woman I truly wanted had gone on dates with and all that and then she’s like, “yeah only fucking no relationship” - but I don’t see that ever happening because I’m upfront immediately with expectations. I’m like, “yo I’m here to win, champ.” Gals who want to only sleep with me will bounce immediatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:30 PM
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I think the difference is mainly in how people meet. Online - you’re not getting far as an average man unless you fit some niche (e.g. redhead). Cold approach is similar. Main reason you see many average men with women is because many men get lucky through warm approach like social circles, work, college, etc. As we get more individualized as we have been - we’re going to continue to see this shit fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:18 PM
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Men lie to some extent. I’ve definitely wanted different aspects to some of my partners and didn’t tell them that. For instance - I like big (and well shaped) boobs. Do I tell the women I’m sleeping with that have small boobs that I don’t find their breasts particularly attractive? Nope… Why do that? I’ll focus on their ass or make a lie by omission in some way that doesn’t give the entire sentiment. Some of them still have nice bodies but I want what I want. That said - I don’t know many normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:13 PM
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Lots of women like this in silicon valley - just not many who are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:21 PM
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It sounds more like emotional ranting and raging from your first sentence. I’m not saying that works... I’m saying sometimes yelling at someone about why what they’re doing is wrong is effective but it needs to come from a calm place. I’m not suggesting rage or tantrum fits. Confrontation is important though - workplace and outside. It’s healthy to address issues in both. It doesn’t mean you need to be a dick about it though or abusive or say insulting things to the point of trauma/abuse. I’d us…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:20 PM
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Same with incels tbh. No bitches? Must be the next Elliot Rodgers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:16 PM
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Really isn’t. Many people (women in particular) don’t like confrontation of any form. They’ll break up before addressing any problematic habits. I’ve made breakthroughs with women that their parents, friends, boyfriends, and therapists could never make. A lot of folks really can’t handle any form of change at all without kicking and screaming the whole way. You think every person responds well to a well adjusted argument about why they’re wrong in a calm and collected manner? How has that worked…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:15 PM
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Meh. I don’t agree with some of this. Sounds like softy shit. “I can’t handle my partner confronting me on my problematic habits. Why don’t they understand when I tell them I don’t wanna talk about it?!” - every problematic woman ever. You sound soft and like you can’t handle being confronted for toxic behavior. A lot of ya need to be confronted. Sometimes that means raising the voice. Sometimes that means insulting you. Sometimes that means doing whatever it is to get through your thick skull t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:08 PM
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Surprise - I know hundreds of women and talk to them every day. Gonna be a lot more statistically relevant than one permanently online lady who uses reddit comments from sock accounts as her means of determining how often women are slut shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:04 PM
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Trying to find a partner like yourself is a surefire way (as a man at least) to end up posting in foreveralone. I think if you instead look for someone who compliments you well (while not hating you) then you’ll be as close to your ideal personality wise. For most men - I think you need to just lower your standards to the floor on all accounts. In general - women aren’t gonna want to play Escape From Tarkov with you, they don’t want to clean an AR-15 every week, they don’t want to go riding spor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:01 PM
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Know a lot of gay men - am close friends with good amount. (Helps that they usually found me attractive - good base for a friendship) Very wrong. They bitch and moan. God - they’re drama queens too. They complain about hookup culture. They complain about how looks focused everything is. (This is coming from the men who are damn good looking too - like some of these men should’ve been models.) They have a hard time finding long term partners because the apps are focused on short term. They’ll com…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:50 PM
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Because I have many friends that are women. They love to whine whenever a man does anything that makes them upset. Trust me - a man ties his shoelaces wrong… I hear about it. If a man called one of them a slut or anyone in their circle one - it’d be spoken about for a fucking decade like it was 9/11. The only time I’ve ever heard a person call a woman a whore or slut or anything of that nature (in adult years) in the last 5 years was by a homeless woman to my ex. We both laughed and were like, “…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:40 PM
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I just don't agree. I really haven't seen almost any of these *men* in real life. Maybe children in HS but men in their 20's? Come on. You're also using PPD and reddit as a source of representing society as a whole - where sock accounts, bots, and whole entire threads are just filled with one person acting as if they're 10 different people. ​ Do you really think PPD even remotely resembles typical people? Barely anyone knows what red pill is - let alone blue pill or any pills, period! Especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:01 PM
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I can’t say your definition of wanting sex in private and shaming in public for sex fits any “nice guy” narrative I’ve heard… You seem to be creating a straw man about what a “nice guy” is. Nice guy was just someone who thought being overly nice to women would get them laid - plain and simple. Some would get bitter when it didn’t work and others would realize the advice they were given was bullshit. Sometimes both would happen. Rarely does it turn into slut shaming and other such shit. You’re ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:36 PM
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The way you word this makes it sound like the one with less power creates the double standard. (“My partner must do X even though I don’t do X.”) I find it’s usually the opposite - the one with more power is often creating all the double standards. If they can get away with it - they’ll do it. If they couldn’t - they wouldn’t do it. Because they have power over the other party - they do it and get away with it sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:29 PM
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They are - lol. Sorry man. Breaking your bubble. I know these women personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:14 PM
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There’s women doing this that aren’t married too. In fact - a lot don’t get married because of the marriage penalty tax. $250k at 25-29 is very reasonable. 3 years of xp and you’re at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:05 PM
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You’d be surprised. I know a lot of women who do this. Husband is making $600k+ and they’re making $300k. They split shit evenly. It’s more common than you think. A lot of the reason the women make this money is because they don’t want to be sugar babies. If they wanted to be sugar babies - why even make $300k? Why not just not work? These women are actually decently common in SF. Just - again - they usually pair off in college and are never seen on the market again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:19 PM
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I mean - there’s watch nerds and I get that… it’s mostly dudes. But I don’t know any men who go, “fuck. This watch makes me a man!”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:13 PM
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Yes - we split 50/50 in terms of the pay for the thing. If the mortgage is $10k then we split it $5k each. Do you not get how 50/50 works…?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:12 PM
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Idk - what makes pull out game strong vs weak? Whether you get her pregnant? Tbh - I feel like if I don’t naturally want to cum from having sex with the gal then she must not be that hot to me - lol. I’m not getting anyone pregnant though. I go bareback and pull out. Works fine. While I like cumming inside - I hate condoms and ladies I’ve been with don’t use birth control. (Which is wild to me - but I was with someone for five years that used birth control the entire time. We were both shocked t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:10 PM
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It coincides more with just time in the market and exposure to people. The reason you didn’t get any when you were in high school isn’t cause you sucked (probably did) but because you were in a tightly controlled market. There were only so many options and once you met everyone - which happens in less than a year for sure - well the next 3 years are with the same people who don’t wanna fuck you. Whereas with college and your 20s there’s more variety and exposure to more people. That’s all it is.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:06 PM
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Huh? Who thinks they’re manly cause they wear a watch…? Women wear watches all the time too. Confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:02 PM
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Both are annoying af. I’m getting tired of the same sock accounts posting the same threads every fucking day. At least use different accounts ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:01 PM
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Dude - you’d have to be really overweight and smoke a lot to die at 40 from heart failure. But still props to making changes. Based and healthpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:00 PM
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Yes - we know. Do you really expect anything different? Do you think people want to do hard work when an easy option is presented and is socially acceptable? People take the easy option - more news at 11, Jim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:59 PM
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What’re you on about? Do you not know what fatFIRE is? It doesn’t mean you don’t ever spend money dude. I could be a SAHD and still be “making” $X00k/yr off of passive income. That’s the point of it. I feel like you should know this but idk - maybe you’re in the medical field where people are notoriously bad at managing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:56 PM
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There’s lots of paths to it. Not many are reliable. I’m speaking more to a typical woman - they can make $250k/yr and work 40-50hr weeks with the assumption they’ll reel it in later. (Either more money or less hours - preferably both) You’d be surprised how easy it is… There’s jobs out there that don’t take many hours and pay much more than $250k. Mostly tech since people don’t usually do billable hours and whatnot - they’re salaried employees. I’m fine with not spending most of my money and sav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:23 PM
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levels.fyi - take a guess. I’m not talking about $1m/yr. You can still do that with less than 50hr weeks but that’s more luck based and difficult to repeat for your typical Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:09 PM
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I never worked more than 50hrs/week to achieve that. It’s very doable. Many places of employment you can get by with 40-45 hours and make $250-1m. Top 10% is still a lot. I’m also sure it’s less than 10% nationally. But probably closer to 10% for places like SF and NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:05 PM
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Such a weird take. You think there aren't plenty of men out there that meet these criteria? I was making $1m+/yr when I was 25-29 and had much better traits than all of what I listed. ​ Y'all are out of touch with how much money people make in major metros. $250k is very achievable. I'm not even asking for someone who makes remotely close to what I do. ​ Also super weird you assume a woman who makes money wants to be single. They're not correlated at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:00 PM
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They're a lot more common in places like SF and NYC. I've known quite a few. They often don't line up with some of these other traits *or* they're not single. Most often, they're just not single and that's the biggest issue. Most marry their college sweethearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:58 PM
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What I want to know - why do you keep posting the same stats like every 3 days with a new thread across multiple subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:37 AM
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I’m late here but I’ll throw it in. I’m a man looking for a woman. 25-29. I’m somewhat flexible but I want 2-3 kids and going outside on either direction could be problematic. wants kids and wants to be a mother but doesn’t desire to just be a SAHM either. Minimum $250k income, preferably with room to grow Isn’t status obsessed. (Think LV, Gucci, etc. just to show the brand off) must have reasonable hours as well. No 60hr work weeks being regular. Physically fit or at least skinny fat. Preferabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:23 AM
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The thought you think a man wearing a wig is a viable take is just... sad. It's sad that you have so little compassion for men that it makes me wonder why you're even on PPD when you'd clearly be better off being a cat herder or a lesbian. Your distaste and disgust for men is so evident by your complete lack of compassion and sympathy. ​ Suggesting wigs and makeup for men as viable solutions to solve male beauty. My god - it's like you've never talked to a single man in your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:42 AM
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I stop being baffled by the comments when I realize this is Reddit. I think you live in a bubble and that's why you don't realize the experiences of many men are quite real and valid. I know well groomed and respectable men who get labeled as creeps regularly just because - to the women - they're the wrong race. This is in the most progressive and diverse cities in the USA. You live in a bubble and reddit just exposes it but you think, "No, it's those who live outside my bubble who are wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:35 AM
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If you're bald - you're bald. There is no cure. Makeup isn't socially acceptable for men and it still doesn't make your eyes pretty. Your eyes being pretty mostly has to do with genetics. Most makeup is just for other women anyway. Just like how men aren't interested in draw on eyebrows, lip filler, and botox. If you show too much gum with your smile - there's literally nothing you can do about it. Your smile will never be cute. Similarly if your mouth is too small or lips are tiny or whatever -…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:32 AM
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Halo effect. It's a huge issue. I've known many men who are quite polite and respectful but because they're Indian and have an accent - immediately seen as creeps. Same for black men that I've known. (Very respectful but immediately labeled as a creep for politely flirting) What was the determining factor in all those scenarios? Whether the women thought you were attractive - which for a lot of women comes down to race and other preferences... Very little to do with how you presented yourself. (…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:28 AM
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Men can change their looks just as women can. I'd say it's a lot easier than becoming a billionaire if they actually improved their part in the beauty industry. Of course, aging is an inevitable part of beauty but women are a lot kinder about it to men thankfully. Do you read what you write? really pretty eyes, thick glossy hair and cute smile whereas men just seem to hyper focus on the gendered aspects like hypermasculinity. Men cannot change their eyes, their hair type, or whether their smile …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:24 AM
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I think men focus on what they can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:15 AM
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Tbh - I think some of those guys have a pretty good physique. The skinnier ones like Clint Eastwood and Elvis wouldn’t do well today. The fat ones like Jack Nicholson wouldn’t do well either. But you got dudes with visible abs in some of those and quite developed chests in others. Many have arms that don’t look skinny even if they’re probably just mostly fat and not actually muscle. Like almost no women would drool over Bruce Willis but he’d be passable/acceptable for many women in that photo. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:29 PM
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Disagree. Seen many men who are great at sexual conquest but dog shit at keeping women. Mainly cause they themselves are terrible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:16 PM
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Read the NPR bit and basically they don’t know why men cheat more, men do less work, and so forth when the man earns less money than their wife. I mean - this is where it just sounds like the researchers and the staff at NPR are idiots. Have they ever considered that there are men who take advantage of their situation and aren’t great partners? No different than a sugar baby or gold digging woman - these men exist too. They’ll do less work, earn less money, and maybe even cheat on their partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:13 PM
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Realizing her immediate standards are too high. It’s extremely common for women to have incredibly high standards in the beginning that rules out everything but the most attractive. (In whatever department they like) This leads to women being upset and bitter that they can’t find anyone who wants them back from the pool they’ve selected. This is because they’re going after men who are highly sought after (after all - they are appeasing to an incredibly high bar and so will pass that bar for many…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:52 AM
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Yet why do so many women go on many dates online and then say there was no spark or they were boring/etc. but some of these same women do find someone from online using the same methodologies? It’s because sometimes people pass the arbitrarily high bar in the beginning even if many don’t (but would pass it later due to the bar getting lower thanks to time).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:38 AM
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It’s not an assumption. It’s a fact. She’s told me this. Jesus Christ - I also happen to know a lot of women. Most of my friends are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 10:52 PM
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I have many anecdotes like this. I just used one because we don’t need the next game of thrones novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:49 PM
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I will not argue the perception of safety that women have. Yes, many women feel all men are an inherent danger and like they will be kidnapped and beheaded like a journalist. That said - the bars lower not due to the safety aspect. That’s really never something that’s on the very forefront of their mind unless they have serious trauma. If that was the case - these women would never date online and would only date people in their immediate social circle who are strongly vetted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:00 PM
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I think my point is that men cannot pass the physically attractive bar. They get ruled out immediately due to this. Eventually some of these men would pass the emotional bar and due to that and time the physical attraction bar would be lowered. But both bars are really high in the beginning and only sustained forced interaction allows men to pass. Our culture doesn’t allow this kind of interaction anymore. You can call it falling in love but it’s definitely not even that. I’ve slept with women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:52 PM
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Might’ve needed to make this more clear - how many women will ever go to a week long anything where they’re forced to interact with men for that entire period and cohabitate with them? (And these women are not college aged) In order for this woman to even acknowledge this guy - she had to give up online dating. She wouldn’t have been able to do online dating and keep room for him in her mind. She had stopped online dating around the same time she met him. Similar with other women I’ve known - if…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:49 PM
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It’s just something people say to get the incels and ugly people to shut up. It’s not based on anything substantial man. It’s just a conversation short cut to put down men and tell them they’re terrible people and the world is actually just and also - “please just shut up and go away - no one likes you”. It’s no different than middle school with people who say this kind of shit. Bad personality is often just women bitching about a personality that doesn’t suit them. I’ve heard so many women call…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:02 PM
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Yes. Often the time of having kids is also a time to re-explore what career they want. It’s often a change where they decide to be a SAHM too. How many men get that option? Women do get more options and do change more often. Men are at higher risk. Only men I see changing careers when it’s a bit late are those who are gay, have no children and never will, or are very single and will likely be single for a long time. (Or again have no real concerns about marriage, timelines, etc.) Men I see who c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:10 PM
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This heavily depends on what you consider “successful sex and dating life”. Most men will never have a casual sex and dating life akin to Chad or even what the average woman could have if she chose to seek it out. 25%+ of men will never have children in our modern times. Compared to <15% of women. We cannot act like most men are going to have a successful sex life full of options and choosing what is best for them. Most men are lucky if they get someone who is faithful and they don’t die alone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:04 PM
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Tbh - a lot of people do but only because they just want the ugly people to go away and stop talking. They don’t want to hear about how the world isn’t just - they know it isn’t just but they don’t want to confront it and tell the person something truly blackpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:59 PM
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That’s no different than just making friends with anyone who introduces you to other friends they have. 🤦‍♂️ Tbh - you guys kinda lose the whole point. You could have the same results by just befriending a bunch of dudes. There’s nothing about this method where you’re just waiting for some people to introduce you to their female friends that requires them to be women. So, tbh, I think this strat is incredibly dumb. If the strat is - “make friends (regardless of gender) and have them introduce yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:56 PM
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Neither of these are examples of women setting you up. You explicitly asked for contact info about that one gal when you saw a photo of her and you met another gal at a party where you initiated all the contact… Neither of these are your friends setting you up or even your friends initiating it. Gender doesn’t even matter here tbh. In both instances - you had to take very large steps towards initiating it. These are just facilitated by social connections as a means of having a warmer introductio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:51 PM
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I’d love to know how many people men here met their partner because they asked their friends (who are women) to set them up. I’ve yet to run into anyone in real life who has this story. Especially so for people who met in the last five years in USA. I really don’t think this is a viable strategy. Make friends with women if you want but doing so while thinking - “this is how I’ll get my actual partner - by building a shallow network of female friends I was attracted to but shot down by!” is proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:16 PM
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If I’m planning on having kids with the woman, yes. Am man in early 30’s and look at women below 30 when dating with the intention of having kids. Too many complications with having kids in mid-30s+ for most women. Better off just getting a younger partner. I’m not going to rush into having kids with anyone either - so if they’re 32 now then earliest they’d get pregnant is 35. Not good IMO. So, yeah, I look below 30. Even outside of that - I generally look below 30 but will entertain women for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:04 AM
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As someone who has been on the hiring side, made 7-fig, etc... What he's saying is very accurate about hiring. We give out offers for $250k+ (that can often turn into much more) for women that require a substantially lower bar to pass if you're a woman. Add in some beauty, POC, etc... You're getting a much higher offer, never getting fired even if you do nothing, and will be pushed to get promoted to management. ​ It's normal in tech - especially SV. I know because I help hire these people and k…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:33 PM
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What kind of rough we talking here boss? Ball gag or slapping some ass? There’s a spectrum here and I find women are wildly spread across that spectrum. The mood of the day and even the moment will dictate where they fall. Some are more like me - they don’t enjoy any kind of pain sensation - and then others are like… choke me, spank me, smother me, etc. That said - some weird ass really into pain dudes out there too. Like cock n ball torture is a thing. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:58 AM
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Personally, I find women who have slept with many men are more open sexually than women who haven’t slept with many men. Exceptions being women who are repressed and open up when in a sexual situation. (Think good Christian girl on the streets and then ball gags you when you get into bed… Not my thing tbh) Tbh - this just reads a lot like that one movie with Ben Affleck… Chasing Amy. Just screams insecurity and like… “I’m deeply worried about the size of my penis” energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:53 AM
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I think anything is fine. Whatever works. Personally - as a man - I find true cold approach (on the street, etc) to be too rough to work unless you’re a god tier model but the same could be said of online too tbh. That said - all my romantic success has come from “cold approach” in the sense that I didn’t know the woman or have any social connections with the woman and we met doing a hobby. (Dancing) I asked them to dance and things escalated from there. In some sense - it’s true cold approach b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 09:42 AM
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Yeah - I don’t think these people have ever been to a rigorous university. Grading on a curve is very normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:45 AM
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This doesn’t work for many men btw. Online behaviors don’t change substantially when you move borders. Maybe 10 years ago but Tinder in Eastern Europe is very similar to Tinder in the US. Surprisingly so. If you get nowhere in the USA - you’ll get nowhere there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:43 AM
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For as many men doing that - there are at least as many women who have opted out of the dating game or have made themselves unable to be dateable. (Single mothers and all - 40% of children are born out of wedlock now)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:42 AM
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Feminism started as something to benefit a very particular type of woman. (White) Later movements tried to become more inclusive but tbh - feminism as it is now is mostly a bullshit parade the PMC to sideline class solidarity. (Which is far more important these days)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:39 AM
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I think a ten year gap at that age is a bit too much. You’d only find it working with women who are serious about settling down at a younger age (something that is pushed heavily onto younger women in places like China and Eastern Europe). You go into traditional hookup-centric US culture and it’s probably the biggest shot in the dark to hit a needle in a haystack from a mile away. Only exception being the religious ones - so maybe it’s possible in Utah or some places but I’d skip these non-secu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:17 AM
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I’ve seen no difference in outcomes. Friends with only men - seen many who get laid a lot. Friends with mostly/only women - seen many who also still get laid a lot. I don’t honk this correlates at all unfortunately. Your friend group is something the choosing side has little interest in from an early perspective. It’s maybe only long term that they’ll care and by then they’ll get over it. In the same way that me being having male friends doesn’t mean I give men great head, having female friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:52 PM
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I think it’s not that much easier tbh. But it does seem easier. There are many women in Europe who try to actively take care of their look in comparison to women in USA. I’ve met so many more women here who are much more fashionable, dress up, and generally look after their figure compared to women in the USA. The women here in Europe are also much more ready to settle down than those in USA - at least for the ones I’ve met. In USA - women have Peter Pan syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:07 PM
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Common. Check profile. I’m not ripped but I climb, dance, hike, etc. I’ve had a 7-fig tc. It didn’t matter - lol. Looks is everything these days. Zilch for OLD. In person is similar depending on the level of brain rot. Recently, a good amount of women I’ve met in person find me physically attractive - even ones I find attractive - but many of the “most attractive” women in a place will not. They’re still going after the tallest, most status, best looks, insert trait, etc. Also, the women I’ve me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:19 AM
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I feel like a lot of people here haven’t known the fathers of these children much. I know there’s a lot of deadbeat dads and whatnot but many times - the man either doesn’t want the child (so get an abortion - it’s clearly a mistake from both sides) or the mother doesn’t want the father around while claiming he’s a deadbeat and no good/etc. It’s rarely so black and white. I don’t know why Reddit has this discourse that women can’t make decisions over their own body. It’s like on one hand - women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:27 AM
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I don’t really get the “addiction” part. I’m only watching porn to masturbate. I find that as I age and when using my brain - I tend to want more developed plot or something more realistic. It also requires that I’ve seen a good looking woman in recent times - I don’t want to rely on the fapbank’s decade old assets. I want to jerk off to a different video than the one I’ve played over in my mind a few dozen times. Thus - I go to porn where I’m exposed to more women who are much more easy to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:42 AM
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As someone who has spent some time recently in Eastern Europe - don’t think setting your profile to Warsaw or Sofia is going to really change things for you. Yes - there are an abundant amount of young and beautiful women there but when it comes to online - you’re still SOL. I’ve still gotten nowhere with online dating in various eastern European cities. I‘ve been told over and over again that I’m good looking as well by women (In person) in Eastern Europe but 🤷‍♂️ In person - it’s much better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:32 AM
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Seems like a false dilemma. Either you’re an autist who believes there’s no love and statistics are everything or you’re a person who ignores statistics, is a hopeless romantic, and believes love is the cure to cancer. Couldn’t it be that one could believe love is real and attainable but the statistics show that everlasting love isn’t trivial to achieve? One can fall in and out of love… One can look at the statistics and the modern marketplace and say - “gee, my odds aren’t too good if I don’t g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:10 AM
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Until people say they’re monogamous - I don’t think there should be any expectations of monogamy. Exceptions being when we’re together in person for the time we’re together in person. E.g. we’re on a date or spending some time together - neither one of us should be going home/spending time with someone else that night. If you do - I think that’s pretty bad form. Also putting a commitment on before having sex is super weird. I think generally both parties should stop having sex with other people …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:05 PM
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Sex or dates. Men here aren’t getting either. You really think your average man on PPD is getting even a date a month? Your average man in the US too? The number of dates an average man gets a year is probably damn near 0. It’s chad who gets the overwhelming amount of dates - not some average dude. The stats I recall say something like an average man will go in maybe 1-3 dates before being in a relationship with a woman whereas for women - the number is much higher. Most men commit as soon as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:15 PM
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What you’ll end up getting is many men having post but clarity and ghosting women even more often than chad already does. It would arguably be worse results for everyone involved. I often have to jerk off before going out to give myself a level head. Otherwise I end up spending time with women who I’m definitely not attracted to in my normal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:07 PM
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It was more than boyfriend/girlfriend. Think how gay folks didn’t have access to legal marriage but were defacto married and had kids and what not anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:55 PM
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The number of men here who are “consistently” getting any women at all is so few as to not be worth thinking about. At what number of ONS are you going to describe “consistently”? 5? 10? How many dudes here are getting that much action in a relatively short period of time where everything else is controlled well? Probably next to 0. That’s complete chad territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:53 PM
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Probably too big tbh. I think 7” bp is about as big as someone should be for optimal enjoyment. There will be women who are exceptions but they are just that. But if your lady has an exceptionally big ass or likes certain positions where a couple inches of your dick will never be able to get inside - who is to say what size is right. Personally - I think 6-7 is ideal. Can’t say for girth because that seems more subjective and you can’t change your girth by not going in as much - etc. Bigger is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:51 PM
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Dislike the legal concept of marriage. I don’t think the government should dictate the terms of marriage or have tax implications due to a personal arrangement. I’ve been married but not legally due to this. I will never get legally married because it is not only financially penalized for my income bracket but also quite annoying and risky from a financial perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:45 PM
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Depends. I think there’s a good chunk of men who will give great advice to women about how to improve their chances and even their life. The same for women cannot be said because for most women - attraction seems like a black box. Input goes in and a result comes out but they have little to no idea about how the result is derived. Most men can tell you exactly why they find a woman attractive. Therefore - most men are going to be helpful getting you closer to whatever makes you attractive. I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:47 AM
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Nah. I much prefer sex with women who have a higher amount of previous sexual partners. They tend to be better at sex. The ones who have little experience are not as good, require lots of instruction about how to please a man (and not all are enthusiastic about that btw), and don’t know what the fuck they want/need. They’re also a bit more insecure and what not because they don’t know what they’re doing. There’s also some over fitting where they may have only had sex with a few select people - s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:25 AM
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Some women look better in clothes than out of clothes significantly enough to change one’s mind. It has happened to me. Girl looked one way - had a body that was another. Sex is also super variable. Like some guys don’t want to have sex with certain kinds of women and same with women. Like if a guy has a penis that doesn’t bring joy to the woman - then no one cries fault there. They just say they’re not compatible. Sex compatibility is a huge thing. Like you can bridge some of the gap for sure a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:35 PM
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Tbh - I don’t think a dildo is how most women really get off anyway. Most need clitoral stimulation. So, you’d be better off with a vibrator or some other clit sucker thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:40 PM
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No - they do fit. I’ve fit in multiple women all the way down and I’m 6.5. It varies a lot on the woman though. Some women you get near that point and you’re gonna be hitting the cervix 90% of the time. For some women - it seems bottomless in comparison or they don’t mind the feeling. I remember my ex wife sometimes saying things like “deeper” and then I’d be like 😏 “oh really?” And then it was always “oh fuck!!! Not that deep!” But even sometimes I could bottom out and it’d not be an issue. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:07 PM
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Tbh - this is kinda painful in my book. Sometimes I feel like I need to tape my shit up so I don’t swing around and bang into things too much. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:02 PM
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Not really. Most people get with like people. There are exceptions but most (lasting) couples I know are more similar than different when it comes to lifestyle, goals, and interests. If one wants kid and the other doesn’t - it’s a dealbreaker. If one likes to stay in a lot and the other likes to go out a lot - it can be bridged at times but it takes a toll… especially if one of them wants company. Same with finances, same with everything else. Some can be bridged but it’s usually better to date …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:45 AM
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Tbh - I wish this is how it went for women who became SAHM too. It doesn’t seem to go that way almost ever at all. I don’t know why tbh. I only know one guy who ever was a SAHD for a bit and he was basically the same. Got his home gym going - got really fit - was enjoying life a lot - etc. Whereas I hear most SAHMs just whining more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:20 AM
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You’re assuming there’s no overlap in the men. Might wanna avoid doing statistical analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:17 AM
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As far as I’ve heard you would’ve been about average if you got one date out of that. So, you’re barely below average as far as I’ve heard. Most men getting 1-4 dates out of 100 approaches sounds like good numbers to me. It’s generally not advised cause you’re starting off on the worst foot possible and it relies on superficial aspects heavily. As far as I’ve seen - most guys use cold approach mainly to build their social skills without any consequences in their immediate social network. Using i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:50 PM
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Uh but the data shows it’s not false. The wage gap is entirely due to hours worked and profession choice. Women get paid the same for the same job as men do. That narrative has been debunked many times…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:44 PM
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Never said they couldn’t… said that women choosing the profession is what dictates the wage gap. Are you actually reading what I’m saying and thinking about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:38 PM
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Nurses are mostly women. Surgeons are mostly men. Obvious wage gap. It’s because surgeons are more scarce and valued than nurses. Has little to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:19 PM
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Should’ve read OPs username and realized I walked into the wrong thread. 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:51 PM
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You can also be in way more touchy feely circles than many posters here are used to. For instance - hugging, cuddling, flirting, and lots of platonic touch is really common in some of the communities I’ve been in. Sometimes they want to shag you too but usually not. I was in a community recently where I was casually touching people in a very polite and non-sexual way. I had multiple folks tell me politely that they didn’t like it. (This was in a community for social dancing btw - where we’re tou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:47 PM
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You’ll have to cite your source sweaty. Cause the wage gap actually doesn’t exist once you control for the type of job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:31 PM
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The 1%. It literally doesn’t fucking matter dude. Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:45 PM
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Depends on your definition. For individuals I believe it’s around $350k to break in. https://dqydj.com/top-one-percent-united-states/ Most stats are given by household income - which is obviously a flawed metric when talking about individuals - and is around $500-550k.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:37 PM
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I think women are making BB extinct in itself. It’s a mutual effort. Again - 1%er here and no woman gives a flying fuck about it. Literally not even a little. I know women who make less than 1/10th of what I do and they still don’t even consider it. Women earn the same as men these days as long as they’re working the same job. If they cared about money - they would make it themselves. But since you see many women still lining up for poorly paid positions far more often than men (like teachers) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:33 AM
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Because looks are more important than just about anything else these days for getting your foot into the door. You can be incredibly talented, hard working, and successful but if you lack looks - it doesn't matter. That's why looksmaxxing and all that shit is super hyped up - and why cosmetic surgery is suggested so often. For a lot of these men - dropping $10-20k on some surgeries is pennies. (I've dropped $10k on a surgery myself - only regret is that I was too secure about my looks and didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:51 AM
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Tbh - it's not that crazy to think. If you had back luck but were incredibly resourceful and capable - wouldn't you browse the internet for subjects related to dating and post about it? I certainly would (and do).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:49 AM
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Yep. It's not super hard for people from UMC/UC families - or at least those from major cities. I grew up in a poor rural area of America. Our school district couldn't even afford going to school five days a week - so we had a reduced weekly scheduled. (Doing the 4 day workweek before it was cool) Climbing in the 7-fig income/NW bracket was a hell of a struggle. But - tbh - I had a lot of time for women and prioritized them over everything. I got married. I made it happen. That said, I had my st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:47 AM
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Repost... Also - the number of people polled here is incredibly small. There's just not enough to really extrapolate to the entire USA. Like one person saying yes/no to a question increases the stats by a huge amount. It's more wild that sexless among men went down during the pandemic. That makes no fucking sense and runs counter to everything we've heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:53 PM
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Why should the man have to ask the woman every time what she needs? Why does a man have to babysit and infantilize a woman? Why can’t the woman say what she wants and what she needs when appropriate? Men have no problem saying what they want and need when appropriate. I find the infantilization of women a hilarious contradiction within most women on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:02 PM
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Am a 1% man myself. Prefer to be with someone like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:06 AM
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“Too attractive for them” is really loaded way of saying something. It’s kinda like saying - the reason you don’t have a car is because your budget is $500 but the only car that is $500 is completely busted and you need one that works. So, yeah, you could have a “car” in some sense but it wouldn’t do the car thing you need it to. I think that’s part of the issue. People keep using semantics and fucking around with words to avoid the difficult reality that you can’t get a car for $500. People wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:05 AM
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Eh. A lot of my friends are 10-20 years older and this has only had minor issues at times. I’ve gotten along with women significantly younger than myself just fine. That said - my lower limit for women is closer to 25 just because anything below that is treacherous territory for LTR. Common interests are important overall regardless. I’m not dating a neo-nazi fascist even if they’re younger than me. Also - I use TikTok and what not. I’m hip with the trends. I think being close with people who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:51 AM
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Your confidence/attitude was probably the big difference. You also probably stopped going after very young women who are a pita to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:16 AM
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It’s a good measure as to how physically attractive women view you through 2D images on a tiny screen. It’s not particularly good at anything else. There’s many women who would date me when presented with my physical presence in person. Online? Not happening. It’s funny to me though because the opposite is true for me. Many women I find online that I would date but next to none IRL. (This is mainly because it’s hard to find 1% income women IRL)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:00 AM
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That graph only goes to 2019. It never hits 2020. It’s from a Stanford paper. https://mobile.twitter.com/dkthomp/status/1149701645070155776
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:51 AM
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I think the data says something like only 25% of women can get off from PiV. Since PiV is highly prioritized in US culture - it’s not surprising that many women have trouble. My ex wife had never had an orgasm before we were together. She had pleasurable sex but didn’t have a real orgasm. None of her previous partners were as committed to a woman’s pleasure in the same way - I guess. It happens. Women have huge variability in orgasming even between days of the week. It’s just not as consistent a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:45 AM
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For the level of income you could reasonably attain - it won’t even matter lol. Most women don’t care until mid 7 figures income. You’re not getting that from run of the mill jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:46 AM
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When most of these women are saying the bar is on the floor - they’re actually lying. Many of them are still seeking Chad but say they’re not because then they can’t be critiqued. I know many women (half my friends or more are women) and they all have extremely high bars to pass. The men are high income, good looking (to them at least - what everyone finds attractive varies), and well behaved. Ultimately - what steadies the relationships is often the woman’s age. I know enough women who remember…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:40 AM
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A lot don’t - lol. Just getting out of poverty is enough. Many of those Chinese folks are super old at this point. Like I said - most Chinese under 40 that immigrate to the USA aren’t poverty anymore. Maybe if they get shipped over illegally in a container ship but the legal immigrants are definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:34 PM
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It’a highly variable. Asia is a large continent. Indians and Chinese tend to do well cause those who immigrate here tend to do so for high paying jobs. 50 years ago it wasn’t the case as much but these days it is. See SF. If you’re an old Chinese immigrant then you tend to be poorer but if you’re under 40 - it’s unlikely. Usually Vietnamese, Thai, Filipino, etc. are what are ranked as poorest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:16 PM
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The rise of the mobile smartphone correlates well enough. All the phones have internet and apps - swiping becomes a thing. It’s basically what fueled it. No different than social media in many ways. Social media was popular but then with smartphones and apps - it took off like a rocket. You’re not going back anymore. Maybe in 50 years. People who are most affected are also the ones people care the least about. Add on that these days relationships and childbearing are not seen as essential to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:09 PM
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The problem is that people use anecdotes all the time or try to cite studies that have wildly different populations. Like your “average” man in the Netherlands isn’t the same as in the US either. That’s a huge point of contention here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:38 PM
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How much of PPD is non-US? I swear so many here are like - “not my experience at all” and then it’s like… where the fuck do you live? And they’re like, oh, I’m not from the US but I wanna comment on US-centric norms. The fuck is wrong with you people. Get outta here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:12 PM
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Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. It’s something I’ve noticed reading your comments here on PPD. Consider taking more English during your studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:46 PM
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Well you could just look it up… https://mobile.twitter.com/dkthomp/status/1149701645070155776
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:09 PM
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This isn’t actually the main way people meet in the US anymore. Bars + online dating are the majority. https://mobile.twitter.com/dkthomp/status/1149701645070155776
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:07 PM
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Significant difference between “I didn’t find him hot initially but grew to like him” vs “I found him ugly but grew to like him.” There’s a huge difference. A good amount of women will find almost no men attractive (whole 80/20 thing) up front. It doesn’t mean 100% are hideous or completely worthless to consider but it isn’t 10% either…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:33 PM
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Most shit is cultural. It’s hard to tell what is biological preference vs cultural because culture has such a dominate effect on everything people do. It’s hard to analyze everything in a bubble. Also - I don’t think the nature vs nurture argument here really matters. Like who cares if X wants Y because of nature vs nurture. Our cultural influence is so strong that you can overrule quite a few seemingly “biological” preferences. Brains are too plastic to be just completely biological for all dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:07 PM
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If you think a millionaire is rich as fuck - you just haven’t ever lived anywhere expensive or made any real money. Honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:33 PM
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lol - you really are out of touch with upper middle class families. Most of us are way more involved in our kids lives than anyone in the middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:38 PM
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Nah - lots of kids in CS are making that money. If you want to get an idea of how CS kids are doing - just go to www.levels.fyi Quants can make even more but it’s super variable because a quant != quant dev - and you’re not likely a quant at 24-26 unless you rushed your PhD. Quant dev - sure. Again - they’ll pay well. Could be an IB or something else too. Again - lots of jobs in these big cities like SF and NYC are paying people under 30 $300k+ often enough. It’s just not talked about as much be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:36 PM
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It’s good money - it’s just not fiendishly rich like an oil barren like you make it out to be. The difference between Elon and I is still BILLIONS of dollars a year. He makes thousands of times more a year than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:32 PM
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It’s that or Jeremiah who has a meth problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:32 AM
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Yeah. I think you’re right. $1m/yr doesn’t even get you into the 1% in SF. I think the same is probably true in NYC/Manhattan. To be in the top 1% you need to make over $3.5m/yr in SFBA. That stat is a few years old too - I’m sure it’s even higher now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:38 PM
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Nah - she herself admits she wasn’t able to do it until we were apart. Divorce and fully being cut off from money made her realize - oh shit… I need to make money and work hard if I want this nice lifestyle. She found the drive and motivation soon thereafter. The opportunities quickly became apparent and she capitalized on them and continues to do such. She’s incredibly smart - there’s a reason I was with her. Alas, some things can’t be done any other way - unfortunately. It can be the same way …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:53 PM
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Nah - I’m pretty well adjusted. I just like a woman who earns her keep and has enough respect to do the same. I’m also not interested in women who feel like they’re only there because of a financial aspect. e.g. a SAHM who has been out of work for too long and finds re-entering the workforce too difficult or whatever. Again - I’m not interested in a trophy. I’m not looking to be coddled or worshipped either. I want a partner - not some sex slave who pops out babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:47 PM
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We got together when I only made $100k/yr - lol (chump change for SF btw). She didn’t get with me for the money or stay with me because I had it. I just got frustrated with her cause I kept climbing in income but she just wanted to be a do-nothing bitch and turn into a trophy wife. I was like, “yeah, no. We didn’t agree on this. You’re gonna work or I’m gonna make your life hell until you work. Pick the poison.” She chose to leave. That’s how it went down, bro. Hate to break it to you. Sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:41 PM
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lol… you should make more friends with doctors and lawyers. I’ve never said I wanted someone who makes 7 figures anyway. Top 1% for women is like $270k/yr - which is an absolute joke to achieve - lol. Any CS grad 3 years out of school can make that. Achievable by 24-26 easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:34 PM
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Yeah - you guys really are delusional. You think having high income would solve all the problems - it really doesn’t. Young women aren’t concerned with your money. Maybe some trash is but women aren’t. Idk why people think money is so important. Like as long as you meet their minimum bar - that’s about all that matters with it. If you’re exceptional like fucking Elon then maybe it changes the way they think but then you’re basically just with a trophy - not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:31 PM
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Who said they were? You think I can’t afford a well educated nanny - lol? You probably don’t realize that’s a thing. PhD nanny’s are a thing. 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:29 PM
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I’m not interested in prizes - man. I want a woman - not a little girl who wants to be showered with money. You’re looking at guys who hang around with a bunch of bottle service girls - something I have no interest in. Most of those women are incredibly dumb AF. I’d be concerned my kids would come out mentally unwell. And - uh - I work with and surround myself with a lot of peers who have similar incomes/wealth. A lot of them are no different than me - we all aren’t into bottle service girls… Ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:17 PM
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Lol - spoken like someone with no experience. If you want to buy escorts then you have the means. If you’re interested in a woman who is similarly earning (doctors, lawyers, techy, quants, etc.) then you’re SOL. Your income at that level is just kinda noise/run of the mill. The amount of men who make high 6 figures to low 7 is way more common in major cities than most people realize. Even for men in their early 30s or late 20s. Low 7 figure income isn’t enough to “buy” yourself a good partner. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:02 PM
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Lol - you can say that all you want but I’m not interested in women who don’t work. I ain’t into a do-nothing bitch. You wanna be a trophy - go be someone else’s. I like me a woman - not a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:56 PM
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Yeah - I’m kinda a fatFIRE type of guy myself. So, the income is pretty important - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:32 PM
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It depends on what you want. I think the odds are better in rural and smaller cities because there’s only so many options - but the quality of women you have to select from is… not going to be great. You’re not going to have a ton of lawyers, doctors, and other well paid professionals to choose from. It’s gonna be a lot of hairdressers, retail, dental assistant, and waitresses… Which is fine if you’re okay living on that income. Personally, I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:23 PM
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You clearly don’t understand men at all then - lol. I’m not interested in being a single father. Nor would I want to put my children through that (even if I am a great dad - kids often want two parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:07 PM
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Nah - it’s none of it. She left because I forced her to make money. 😂 She’s on her way to making bank now (already 6 figures but she could hit mid-6 if she’s smart with it. 7 if she is ambitious like me) but divorce was the only way it was gonna happen - she isn’t big on working if she doesn’t have to. It’s kinda annoying. Divorce was the only way to get her to finally start working.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:05 PM
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No… you’re sounding really old and out of touch right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:02 PM
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I know many. People often complain it’s hard but it’s not actually. I’m in the 1% and I find child raising trivial/enjoyable compared to my work life - lol. Besides - I’m more than happy to be a stay at home dad if mommy wants to go play corporate war games and earn our high incomes. 🤣 I’ll even pay for surrogates if she doesn’t want to deal with pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:33 PM
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Yet - the rise of K-Pop would like to have a word with you… These guys often have good bodies too but they’re not muscular (outside of like Wonho) - just toned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:31 PM
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It’s often hard to find a woman with an amazing mind and body. Probably true of men too. Requires amazing parents. The reason being that people who are beautiful get a lot of exceptions and excuses made for their shit behavior - people who are less attractive have to work for it. You ever notice how comedians aren’t usually super hot? Sure, quite a few are tall dudes but that just makes them stand out more easily and feel more confident throwing out jokes. But they’re not models when starting ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:29 PM
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Skin is also only so much you can do. Like acne scars and what not are beyond your control if you didn’t have access to accutane at an early age. You can try stuff like micro needling and laser abrasion but that shit is huge ymmv and often doesn’t help long term. I think people overestimate the value of muscles. Like - muscles are like big tits - great to feel and look at but they aren’t what you wanna marry. When looking at old photos of each other - one looks at the face - not their partners t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:24 PM
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I can tell you the west coast is terrible. The quality women are with their partners from college more often than not. The gender imbalance is massive. (Often 150men:100women for single 25-34 folks) The women often can bring more to the table because the region is so expensive and they need decent jobs but it’s not guaranteed and many don’t want to climb the corporate ladder. They’re looking for a partner to work and they give up the job. It’s hard to find a high earning partner committed to wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:18 PM
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Problem is that many women in NYC are very much sex in the city types. (Impossible standards, no clue what they want in life, etc.) I can’t speak to Miami but that sounds like a terrible place to find a LTR. I know the west coast is definitely the Elden Ring of the USA when it comes to dating for men. I’ve lived in Seattle, Portland, and SF. All three are very difficult - Seattle and SF mainly due to the gender imbalance and the fiercely competitive men that exist there. PDX because the women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:11 PM
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I’d say you’re missing on above average face. This is probably the most important feature. That is also outside the control of a man - you’re not going to be born into 8+ territory or even likely be able to get surgery for it if you’re coming from a 4/10. There’s minor things you can do that aren’t usually super terrible like rhinoplasty but the rest is usually not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:07 PM
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It varies by country a lot. Height in Netherlands is different than height in Spain. I have friends who live in Spain and talk about how all the men are short and balding but in America - the men are all tall, buff, and have hair. It varies a lot on where you go and what you’re coming from. Europeans vary on this a lot. A girl in the Netherlands might be extremely difficult to please due to the 6ft+ average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:58 PM
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As someone who would firmly be in the BB category by many standards here (5’10”, 1% income, 31, mixed race, 150lb and not muscular, target school, great career, average face at best) - I can firmly say that $$$ doesn’t do much for most younger women these days. The 18-30 demo has little to no interest in your money as a means to lower their standards. As another said - maybe the single moms do but the rest give zero fucks. I never run into single moms - so I wouldn’t even know. AFAICT - almost n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:39 PM
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People with healthy attachment styles just aren’t on the market as often. This is because they get into relationships and their time on the market is low. Whereas the insecure ones are almost always on the market because they can’t ever keep anything together. It’s kind of why all Craigslist ads seem like garbage and everything is listed for a terrible price. It’s because all the good priced shit gets bought in less than 24 hours. Good priced stuff doesn’t stay up for long except for bad discove…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:06 AM
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But don’t have to* is the correct way to finish that - lol. Tbh - this only goes so far. I think many men have done this but it leaves a much bigger hole in their life than it does for women. Men need companionship and sex way more than women typically do. (As evident by how many women will divorce and never remarry - unlike divorced men)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:58 AM
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I wouldn’t say no such thing. Just uncommon. These guys do exist. They also usually get off the market super fast because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:56 AM
1

For most people in the USA - a CS masters is completely worthless. Your bachelors is more than enough (literally have a bachelors and have had 7 figure jobs - you don’t need a masters) and a masters won’t get you any kind of special job unless you got published in a specific field. (Rare) Most people get masters in CS in the USA because they’re switching fields or because they’re foreign and it’s an easy way to get into the country with a visa.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:50 AM
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Lol - there’s no chance you’re 5’8”, 83kg, and 12% bf. You’d be absolutely ripped to shit. Visible 6-pack, huge arms, legs, etc. I’m not joking. Look up what 12% body fat looks like at 80kg for 5’8”. It’s huge dude. Also - those machines are known to be super inaccurate. They said I had <3% body fat at one point. Which would mean if I skipped a meal - I’d probably die. I had a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:38 PM
1

Unless you’re into physical fitness or gym bro shit - there’s no reason anyone would be good at guessing weight. It’s not intuitive anyway. Height to weight scales at the ~cubic power (1d to 3d). It’s super hard for people to intuit that. Idk any woman at 180lbs who’s gonna look good at 5’4”. She’d definitely be in the 1% of genetics for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:27 PM
4

We don’t know. Maybe he’s fucking shredded. I mean - we know he’s not. If he was at 8% bf at that weight and height - he’d never be on PPD. He’d be too busy in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:13 PM
1

May as well just date in the workplace tbh. Also - if you’re in a male heavy field that’s white collar - it probably pays very well and you’re already considered quite desirable. You don’t need graduate school - online dating would be more than sufficient… Online dating only wouldn’t work if you’re unwilling to work on physical fitness or maybe have some kind of debilitating facial feature that can’t be fixed with surgery. If you’re a guy - I think grad school is also a waste unless you’re going…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:11 PM
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Some of these are fundamentally different though. Like - being fat is 99% a choice. Being short or having a bad face is not. It’s why men are completely unforgiving to fat dudes but are like very sympathetic to guys with bad faces. It’s like - yeah - totally sucks you got a bad face - guess you’ll need to do gym more than someone who was the same as you but with a better face. That’s how it is. Change what you can and try to minimize/lessen what is bad about you. Men just don’t want to accept ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:27 PM
3

You do know that many people get into relationships when they’re both fit and then one of them might stop going to the gym or whatever - thus causing weight gain and so forth. Like that happens a lot to men because they were working out specifically to get a partner. Then they got one - didn’t need to do it anymore. But their appetite stayed at the “I’m going to the gym” level and never adjusted - so they gain weight. That’s most relationships you’ll see out there where the man is significantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:24 PM
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This just isn’t true… When you look at it from both perspectives - women complain about not being able to find someone who will sleep with them and then stay with them monogamously. Men complain that they can’t even get laid to begin with - let alone lock a partner down. Both are looking for long term monogamous relationships and both have failed to do such. Both are experiencing their issues for similar reasons. (Men aren’t attractive enough to attract an average woman and women aren’t attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:22 PM
1

This isn’t exclusive to rich kids though. Imagine having that stress and those mental health problems but now you’re a low earner and barely making ends meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:41 PM
0

But they really don’t. Many women actually try to keep the father out of their child’s life. I don’t know where you live but this is a really common occurrence with single mothers that I know. Many don’t want the kid near the father at all even if the dad wants to be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:39 PM
12

even though the world has been handed to them they are still perpetually unhappy. lol - I find this funny and painfully true. (At least the perpetually unhappy part!)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:45 AM
1

As someone who has danced for over a decade - done most forms of dance and traveled the world for it and is currently… It is definitely not all it’s cracked up to be. It’s my baseline for meeting people but - tbh - most of the crowd is kinda trash and there’s very little turnover. Most of the people are lost and hopeless. Very few “normies” and it’s not the best way to get a partner. Heck, even hooking up it’s not great. Also - most of the women aren’t that attractive. The ones that are any good…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:15 PM
1

Average man doesn’t even get dates. So, not sure who you think you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:49 PM
3

Yeah… this just isn’t true fam. I get haircuts - I get new clothes - I go through a whole skin routine. You’re acting as if men just show up in a T-shirt and jeans after having gone to work. I’m sure some men do this I’m sure just as many women do that. Most men I know put a lot of effort into dates because they are very important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:06 PM
2

• ⁠treating sex like something they’re doing to me, not something we are mutually collaborating on • ⁠handling conflict by brushing it off or refusing to take my perspective seriously • ⁠saying things that imply women are lesser than men or just broad-brush negative opinions about the gender entirely. This includes treating me as an exception to the rule, and the whole “you’re not like other girls” line. Ooph - these happen the other way a lot too. You’re not like other men, unwilling to listen …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:38 PM
1

Literally don’t care. I’d be only concerned with extremes like 0-4 or 50+. Anything in between (5-50) is generally whatever. I’m mostly looking at women who are 25-30. For the overwhelming majority of women - this is really a non issue. Problem… I like hot women. They tend to fall outside the norms. 😩 The reason being - women I’m interested in are hot. Hot women get a lot of attention. Hot women are probably gonna have sex with a decent amount of dudes if for no other reason than they can and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:27 PM
3

You think women are dumb as bricks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:15 PM
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Because one of those is closer to malice and one is just part of the dating process figuring out if you like someone. I’ve liked some people but then saw them naked and was like, “I’m gonna follow through with this cause it’d be more devastating to just not follow through here but this ain’t happening again.” I’m sure many women felt the same about me - which is fine. (Maybe they thought I had a six pack underneath my shirts and wasn’t just skinny fat - Idfk) Tbh - it’s a red flag if a woman isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:10 PM
1

Varies. I’ve found bars and clubs are about as approachable as online dating. Many of the women there aren’t single - often they’re there with someone or went out for a girls night. A lot of women aren’t into going into bars or clubs to meet men - they often go just to have a good time with their friends and/or partner. Some bars are more accommodating but most are pretty terrible, IMO. Most of the women don’t make themselves socially available for interactions at all - which again falls into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:09 PM
3

US just has a ton of single men at everything. It’s insane. I’d also say salsa is one of the worst places to meet women in the US anyway. They play the music so loud that you can’t even find out someone’s name. Even off the dance floor. You’d have to leave the venue to have any kind of conversation. Which - at that point - is no better than online dating in terms of talking to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:13 PM
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Your age and age range probably has something to do with it then. It’s definitely a lot for someone my age (31). Like well over 1000 profiles on each app. If you’re having 0 success after going through 1000 profiles then the apps probably won’t ever work for you. Which is mostly how it is for me and why I’ve given up on them. I don’t really bother. They’re also gamified to make it miserable for someone like me because my demo of male is super common on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:55 PM
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It’s hard to say whether this would improve the experience for everyone. Certainly wouldn’t for most of the people who use dating apps to help with their self-esteem/entertainment. (Which is a non trivial portion) I think what would happen is people would convert a lot faster. Less fucking around on the app and more moving directly off the app. Like match, send a few messages, here’s my number, talk off app, unmatch cause they need to get more people… I legit think that’s how it’d likely transfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:07 PM
2

Where are you from? In the major cities in USA - pretty much all apps have tons of profiles. If you’re “running out” it’s because the app decided to stop showing you dead profiles - unlike tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:03 PM
1

You know it’s possible that the men on here aren’t interested in those things… It’s that other men in real life might like some of those things. Different men. Also - women do tons of shit just for other women. Flexing on other women is totally a thing. Like I’m not into big fake lashes, long nails, or caked on makeup. That shit just reminds me of trashy girls or Ru Paul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:15 PM
1

Skincare is already on the rise for men and will be mandatory for all younger men within 10 years. If you’re not wearing sunscreen and moisturizer at the minimum - social outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:16 PM
7

Just gonna go out on a ledge here and say … nope. I don’t know any personally. Guys I know who are legitimately 8+ don’t have any issues getting women. They get women thrown at them - even if not financially successful. I’m not gonna say they don’t have issues but those are usually of their own manufacturing - like they’re garbage partners or human beings. Some people on Reddit here and IRL try to be nice to me and say I’m handsome but the results speak for themselves. I’ve been married, in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:09 PM
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Not even just OLD - this is true of real life as well. It’s often 6+ months before I meet a new woman who is eligible and remotely attractive. Not all of us live in college dorms. For those of us who live in the adult world with big corporate jobs, work hard, and are active outside of work there’s not always a bunch of single women in the shit we do. Most social hobbies out there are dominated by men - very few single women ever show up. Even for a hobby like social dancing - it’s grim. So few s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:53 PM
7

If my survey of the field is anything to go by - for women it’s meeting men in college/grad school and locking them down there. This is the #1 thing I see in SV for high earning and prestigious couples. Arguably it’s a great way for men to get into relationships too since these are all hetero couples. Long lasting as well. Almost all my peers who are married in SV met their partner in college. Kinda crazy tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:59 PM
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You’ve said this school shooter vibes thing like fifty times in your last comments. Walk it back a bit. I don’t think men who want sex and pursue sex all give off “school shooter vibes.” You’re acting as if men are a monolith that when they pursue pussy - they must be Elliot Rodgers. I’ve known so many men who treat women like they’re glory holes - they’re way more successful on average than the men who don’t. It’s mind boggling but sometimes that focus allows you to actually look at what women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:51 PM
2

Like with the 17 different sauces - I’d say people fall into different stereotypes. There’s not likely one cohesive set of behaviors that underlines them all that is worth taking away. I’ve seen plenty of women never settle. I’ve seen some settle and immediately have kids. I’ve also seen some just get what they want because their time in the market was longer than when they were 25. For myself (31) - I’ve not really lowered my standards. I’m divorced and since then I’ve only decided on getting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:27 PM
1

For most skinny dudes - this is the issue. They don’t have the appetite of a fat dude and never will.
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:25 PM
1

Point is more that some people stay full for many more hours than others and never have the appetite. Eventually my mouth doesn’t develop saliva and my jaw locks up. You’d be surprised how force feeding yourself doesn’t work if your body doesn’t have the appetite. You have to fix the appetite - otherwise you’ll just throw up or get indigestion. I have plenty of experience here - the folks who can eat nonstop without consequence are uncommon and not the rule. They just make up the majority of onl…
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:48 PM
2

Copium. In the same way you don’t want to fuck a girl with a 35 BMI - girls don’t want to fuck you. They’re just as shallow. Everything else is cope. If it wasn’t the case - why do so many men get nowhere with online dating? Why are so many young men not getting laid in our modern times? Maybe because women aren’t interested in fucking ugly dudes anymore…
/r/seduction16/07/22 10:07 PM
1

You need to eat a lot. You’re not eating a lot. Every skinny guy makes up this same excuse because we all eat until we’re full and then are like, “but I can’t. I eat until I’m full - therefore I’ve ate a lot!” but you didn’t eat a lot. Your version of being full isn’t the same as guys at 300lbs. I’ve had the same excuses for 30 years. Truth is - I just couldn’t put the food down and I realized that in my teens. Then I got married, high paying job, etc. weight came much easier because my appetite…
/r/seduction16/07/22 10:03 PM
3

I mean - that’s not really how genetics work but okay. Only 40% of men ever reproduced in our genetic history…
/r/seduction16/07/22 09:58 PM
0

This is copium. If you’re not physically attractive then you’re not going to even have a conversation with the girl. She won’t even look at you or have eye contact to signal she’s interested. If you just push yourself onto this woman and essentially start chatting her up - she will try to shut you down and move away. If you’re not physically attractive to the person - you’re not getting laid. No girl wants to fuck an ugly guy. Not one.
/r/seduction16/07/22 09:40 PM
2

Are you thin? It’s kinda code for being a stemlord. That or fat and with a neck beard. People can tell what major you do based on looks - it’s pretty obvious for many majors. People who are obsessed with their looks usually don’t go into stem and thus most people in stem look like shit. There’s this whole nature vs nurture thing with major selection. For instance - are all nba players tall because they play nba or did they go into nba because they were tall? You know which it is … stem is the sa…
/r/seduction15/07/22 09:51 PM
1

This is huge ymmv. At least on the west coast of USA - you’re not getting any kind of decent girl unless you yourself are damn hot. You’ll at best get the overweight girls or ones with severe acne scars and abrasive personalities. I’m not into that - tbh. Bars and clubs are no better than online dating for modern women under 30.
/r/seduction14/07/22 05:08 AM
0

This sounds like advice from a teenager. Stop fucking around with single mothers in the ghetto.
/r/seduction12/07/22 09:34 PM
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I’ve found being the most attractive in the room is what helps. Your friend is significantly more attractive and taller than you - this doesn’t help when you’re in the same “room”. So, I’d suggest stop being in the same room as this guy when it comes to romantic opportunities. Also - unless you yourself are looking to be poly - why do you care that a girl is sleeping with your friend who is poly? It sounds like the girl either just wants sex or poly relationship. If you’re poly then yeah that su…
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:35 PM
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I can’t imagine that’s a real boyfriend (colloquially - the monogamous kind) in this scenario or a woman worth keeping around. Quality ladies aren’t just going and sleeping with other men when they have an argument with their committed boyfriends. I mean - ffs - I’d never be with a woman like that. She sounds like trash.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:27 PM
1

A growth mindset is generally something one can ascertain within other contexts. If you don’t have a growth mindset when it comes to women - you likely don’t have one to other activities. I’ve rarely met men who are good candidates but are in a fixed mindset with women while being growth in other areas. (Usually this time in their life is a fluke) Overall - cultivate a growth mindset in all forms of life. That said - growth mindset is a bit of copium. You can have the best approach and mentality…
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:40 PM
1

Exactly. If you look at sports enough - you’ll see so many people with the exact same build that you will realize… it’s not that they’re just working out the muscles most important to succeed or doing whatever - it’s that their inherent bone structure, musculature, and stature are often a good fit for that specific activity. That’s why they ended up going into it. Few people go into things where they’re at an inherent disadvantage. Similarly when you’re a kid and people push you in or out of spo…
/r/seduction13/06/22 04:36 AM
1

I’d say 7 isn’t really accurate. If you’re ugly - doesn’t matter what energy you put out. If you dry her up on sight - it’s not happening regardless of “energy” or “vibes”. I’ve seen some pretty confident, happy, and good dudes get nowhere with women because they were ugly.
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:08 AM
2

Most efficient for who though? Physically attractive men? Average men? Ugly men? Women?
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:04 AM
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This is called selection bias though. People at the gym are going to naturally be people who are better fit for the gym. If you looked at sports - you must be thinking - “jeez, if I just played basketball - I’d be over 6’ tall.” But that’s the wrong way to think about it. Usually it’s that tall people play basketball. Similarly - those who can get big and are capable of having a very masculine look tend to go to the gym. Those who can’t don’t because it just doesn’t do anything for them. In the …
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:00 AM
2

Be attractive. Don’t be unattractive.
/r/seduction19/05/22 04:32 AM
1

Still need to follow rules 1 and 2 first. Half of my best friends are women. This has never influenced how rules 1 and 2 work. This only helps if you’re saying cringey incel shit in front of women instead of keeping that between your bros - and that is literally your only reason for fucking up.
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:02 AM
2

This feels like a very woman centric view. While accurate for many women - I don’t find this accurate for many men I know. Maybe this is more true outside the US. I know many men who are confident, fit, make well over $200k/yr, Ivy league educated, securely attached, etc. yet they’re single and can’t find a mate. (These men are dime a dozen in Silicon Valley) They end up with what they can get - which is usually pretty bad.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:42 AM
1

I always assume if it’s hard to tell (no subtext, etc) then they’re poly and literally showing you the guy they’re already with. Idk. Common where I am. (San Francisco)
/r/seduction30/04/22 01:19 AM
1

Where do you live? A lot of women wouldn’t expect a casual suggestion that we do some activity or hang out together doing x, y, z is a date where I live. (Even if just met them) Most would literally think it’s truly a friendly interaction and many would be extremely turned off entirely if they found out you actually had set this up with romantic intentions. I live in San Francisco as well. Being friends with women and hanging out with women is seen as quite normal here… Maybe where you are - it’…
/r/seduction30/04/22 01:16 AM
2

Yes. 1000%. Extreme skepticism in every situation. I’ve talked to many women about this (who I got to know through more approachable situations) and they all have great disdain, distrust, and skepticism to random men approaching them in any context where it’s not expected. (If a man asks you to dance at a dance - normal because that’s what you’re there to do. If a man talks to you while shopping - what does he want? Likely nothing good!)
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:21 AM
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Huge ymmv. I know in SF and some parts of the country - women pick up on any social interaction like this from a man as very unappealing from the get go. They know you want something. I really wish I lived where you guys did where a single person was open to social interaction to begin with.
/r/seduction26/04/22 12:43 AM
12

Varies. There’s some with younger and more approachable women and super YMMV with your local scene. What is true in Chicago isn’t true in Seattle isn’t true in Miami, etc. Ratios vary and so do the clientele. For where I live (SF) - lots of extra dudes at any type of dance (this is true of almost all hobbies. SF often has yoga classes with more men than women. It’s insane) and then the age and fitness and looks and what not are super variable. Generally though - it’s not all 20-30 and physically…
/r/seduction26/04/22 12:41 AM
2

Change.
/r/seduction23/04/22 11:49 PM
5

Opposite is also true. No amount of balls will make up for being anorexic, poor, poor timing, fucked up teeth, and always wearing a t-shirt and jeans.
/r/seduction21/04/22 04:23 PM
1

Speaking to 15 women and introducing yourself is a little different than what some here might think. It’s not hard to talk to a different woman every song if you just go out and ask, and the gender ratio where you are is favorable. (I find it needs to be slightly female biased in order to get a dance often. Women tend to dance with other women and this throws off the balance) I’ve done dancing for over a decade and tried just about every style. Yes, good way to meet some women. Bad in that it’s …
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:04 PM
1

These things sometimes happen because they met in high school or were childhood friends, etc. It’s uncommon and shouldn’t be your benchmark for expectations. Your expectations should be to not get a model as an average looking guy. (Cause that’s the harsh reality for 99% of average men) If you somehow get lucky- wow you got lucky. Don’t tell everyone to play the lotto and waste they money and time though just because you got lucky.
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:33 PM
0

The social anxiety is the issue that you’ll need to overcome then. I’ve never really had legitimate social anxiety. (Everyone experiences social anxiety but I’ve never had it as a recurring thing that paralyzed me or whatever) Going out and cold approaching or whatever that this sub will recommend will not go over well for someone with social anxiety.
/r/seduction18/04/22 06:29 AM
4

“a dating event or something” - dude people are literally there to meet new people so yeah no shit they’re open to talking to new people. If this is the bar you set for “openness” then everyone here would be completely hopeless.
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:55 PM
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If you’re 25 and a virgin - there’s likely something bigger going on under the hood. Seek therapy first and then start working on your physical image immediately. Regardless of your life - growing up for 25 years as a man and getting none is going to totally wreck your mindset. I say this as a very empathetic man, btw. I know what that’s like. Are you autistic? Something else? I don’t know many/any? men at 25 who are holding their V card and are normal people. No offense - just saying there’s li…
/r/seduction16/04/22 06:47 PM
2

Unfortunately - his experience sounds a lot like someone who lived a particular lifestyle and only hung out with a particular group of people. (Makes sense… he runs an entrepreneurship podcast…) I’d say things were “best” in my mid-20s. To be honest though - they were absolutely terrible. But it had moments of hope and progress that my teens and early 20s never had. I can’t speak for late 20s as I was married but women never looked at me, flirted, etc. So, I’d say it was really terrible. I knew …
/r/seduction16/04/22 06:38 PM
2

It’s both. Climbing involves technique and some thinking but most of it is purely muscle. Even if you have the right technique, know what you’re doing, etc. it will not matter for most problems because you simply don’t have the muscle. This is why many female climbers are well behind their male counterparts (except when they’re very young). Tired of people downplaying how important it is to be very physically strong for rock climbing.
/r/seduction16/04/22 06:25 PM
4

This is copium. You’re out of your mind if you think rock climbing doesn’t require a lot of muscle. The best climbers aren’t huge but that’s because being huge limits your ability to climb. Instead they’re extremely good on power to weight. They’re lean but still incredibly strong. On top of that, your tendons and what not are going to give very early. That takes a long time to get the strength for.
/r/seduction16/04/22 06:18 PM
1

I agree. Generally they work in lower stress jobs. I don’t know any men who work 60+ hour weeks (that they hate) and regularly pull random women every week. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist ever - I just can’t remember any off the top of my head. Most guys I know who pull women are rich from mom and dad, work low stress jobs, and have a combination of good looks & game & low standards. (Last three being the most important, imo) It’s important to emphasize the type of work too. I get paid anywhere…
/r/seduction14/04/22 11:19 PM
2

I think people use the ABC thing here a lot but it’s a very superficial look. After all, the A in ability is basically your “ability” to seduce but not keep. Body is your looks. C is vague and could easily be tied to A. I’ll make one up as stupid. Looks are what holds me back most. Being multi-racial and ambiguous doesn’t do me any favors. As I’ve always said - I get all the discrimination without any of the fetishization. White think I’m brown (not the good kind of brown either) and brown think…
/r/seduction14/04/22 05:20 PM
2

I’m not super savvy about turning things around here but I will say - the longer you wait on some women the more hurt when rejection does land. Also, I am a strong believer in not shitting where you eat. I personally wouldn’t approach at the gym unless I know I won’t be there again at the same hours (or have never seen this woman during my hours and she’s just bonkers attractive). Few things suck more than having to look at your rejection every time you go somewhere to do self-improvement. Anywa…
/r/seduction14/04/22 05:11 PM
2

There’s a misunderstanding going on here and that’s all it is. What women say: “I want to see men be vulnerable with me.” What men think women mean: “I am okay with seeing you cry, go through depression, grieve, have a hard time, and be generally upset or unpleasant. I can handle that. You can tell me your problems and I will work with you through them.” <- this is what it would mean in any other context btw. What women actually mean: “I want to hear them talk about how much they love eating me …
/r/seduction13/04/22 09:44 PM
2

Not really. It’s mostly about trying to get laid and not much else. Obviously some will be quality but I don’t hear that much from here.
/r/seduction13/04/22 12:17 AM
1

This is a great way to view it! Amazing - I’ve never seen that perspective described that way here.
/r/seduction13/04/22 12:16 AM
2

The clubs are so loud though. You’ll never get a single conversation in. So unless you got incredible face or body game - you’re not getting anywhere there. Also - at least where I live (SF) - salsa is for Hispanic and Filipino and Vietnamese folks almost exclusively. Not in that group? Better fuck right off cause ain’t no one wanting you there.
/r/seduction13/04/22 12:14 AM
1

Men are also the number one threat to men. 🤷
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:57 PM
1

She liked me a lot and lived in a desert as far as “dating” things to do mostly exist. So she came to me a lot or we’d meet up at my place and go somewhere else. But basically my answer for you is that it all works. I’d suggest meeting somewhere between the two of you if you can but you don’t have to. Just do what feels right.
/r/seduction22/03/22 04:48 AM
1

Ran into a video of his today. It was for his experience in SF. Basically his list is exactly what I said. He said it’s a shit town and that if you manage here - you’ll be a god elsewhere. And it’s one of the reasons he left. He hasn’t lived there in years and times change. (SF is a place that is quickly changing as compared to Cincinnati or what not) I’d say it’s worse than it was before. So, he probably has no interest in ever visiting this area again.
/r/seduction21/03/22 09:55 PM
2

Varies. I married a woman who started out living about an hour away from where I was (no traffic - with traffic much longer). We mostly saw each other on weekends and spent the weekend together or I’d drive down to her area and we’d hangout for the whole day. So, no, 30 miles is not too far. I’m actually looking for women in an area that is about 30 miles from where I am now too. It’s not ideal but it’s not that big of a deal. Now if that 30 miles is a 3 hour trip both ways - that’s rough.
/r/seduction21/03/22 09:51 PM
1

I can’t say that these hobbies have really improved my “confidence”. (I still find that to be a nebulous and contentious topic) Partner dancing (blues, lindy hop, fusion, Argentine tango, kizomba, bachata, etc… tried a lot of them). <- probably the best way to get good at interacting with women with low stakes and getting used to touching people. Woodworking, driving/fixing cars, motorcycle riding/rebuilding, lots of DIY type stuff around the home, and typical old fashioned “manly” stuff where y…
/r/seduction21/03/22 07:35 AM
3

You need to find an introverted girl. If you’re heavily introverted yourself - many non-introverted women will be heavily turned off by this. (Myself am turned off by introverted women. It’s exactly opposite of what I want) Upside of this is that those women tend to not be into parties much either. Might be good to join/attend a few clubs at your school and branch out and try a bunch of new hobbies. Find things where the more introverted women go. They might not be super big clubs (cause again l…
/r/seduction21/03/22 07:12 AM
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I mean - your looks were an issue but you fixed them and so now you’re stuck with the next issue which is your conversational skills and personality. Congrats on improving your image.
/r/seduction21/03/22 07:04 AM
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The analogy is good here. Great dancing is very much appreciated but it has to be appreciated by the right person (same as a strong motor - not everyone wants a 9000rpm v8) and the other things need to be in alignment too. End of the day - I appreciate good dancing immensely! But if the girl is unpleasant to look at - I’ll enjoy the dances and humor her a bit but that’s about it!
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:43 PM
2

Copy someone you like the style of but make sure they have a somewhat similar body shape to you. Eventually you can develop your own sense of style after copying. It’s no different than most things. Monkey see - monkey do - monkey improoove.
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:10 AM
4

It is short. If 6’ is tall then 5’6” is short. Can’t have it both ways, bud.
/r/seduction15/03/22 11:52 PM
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It’s short by most standards. Average height for men in China, India, Korea, etc is no longer 5’6”-5’7” - young people are no longer malnourished anymore and thus are 5’9”+ on average. 3” might seem like not a lot but it is the difference between average and 6’+. Again - I wouldn’t undersell their experience.
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:31 PM
2

Get to your 30s. It’s easy to talk about becoming fatFIRE’d and all that. It’s another to actually do it and then follow up with the actual lifestyle. You’ll find the treadmill doesn’t stop, bud.
/r/seduction15/03/22 02:57 AM
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I’ll just tell you that the money thing isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Unless you somehow gets millions banked away - you’re gonna be working like a sheep dog almost guaranteed your entire life. It’s not gonna be fun whereas it is for the dog. Corporate war games, trying to get startups to IPO, bootstrapping a business, etc. none of that shit is fun. Plenty of women leave their partners because of the work aspect. Being independently wealthy is nice and desirable but is basically luck of the d…
/r/seduction14/03/22 11:55 PM
1

When women say this - they mean personality is most important when they’re already physically attracted to you. To them, it’s a given and shouldn’t have even been acknowledged. It’s kinda similar in the way some women will say, “men just aren’t interested in me! Wtf?!” And what they mean is - men that they’re interested in aren’t interested in them. They keep only getting approached from men they’re not attracted to. It’s kinda normal. You’ll find this kind of thing happen a lot when you talk to…
/r/seduction13/03/22 12:12 AM
1

Says on Instagram he’s in Austin. And his videos look more like they’re in LA.
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:13 PM
4

Again. Reeking of insecurity. Idk if your mommy and daddy didn’t love you enough or something but you definitely wouldn’t have a secure attachment style. You need to really learn to have faith in people. Sometimes they’ll fail. Ok. Move on and find someone who won’t or work on it with them (your choice but I doubt you’ll ever have the maturity to do the second). Stop being a helicopter parent for your fucking girlfriend ya damn psycho. Again. Teenagers (or 20 year olds, whatever. 🙄) are too inex…
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:35 PM
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Yeah, I’m tapping out. Hopefully they’ll learn and not stay as toxic pieces of shit who can’t trust women. Immaturity here is hella unreal. Wish everyone had mandatory age flair or something. Blind leading the blind here. 🙄
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:31 PM
2

Sliding into DMs is usually for people you already have met or are at least on a mutual follow basis, bro.
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:24 PM
1

There are and you’ll find plenty of stories about such even here. The problem - they were heavily set on rule 1. It was just that they were doing rule 2 poorly. Basically, white, 6’3”, jacked, good looking, decently dressed, etc. but they lacked any social skills and didn’t know what to do even when women approached them. They got better with social skills and thus started drowning in it. But uh - yeah - if you don’t have any of those kinds of starting stats, you’re never going to really see thi…
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:23 PM
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Considering I married such woman - does it change your perspective? Guys - I know many married women who are like this and have no intention of leaving their husband behind or having an affair. Y’all are teenagers. Take it from the dude in their 30’s who has actually interacted with many women from many backgrounds… not just with other teenagers.
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:18 PM
1

How old are you, OP? Sounds like one of the first times you’ve been out at a restaurant with a partner.
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:11 PM
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Clearly you’ve never had a flirty girlfriend. Many women like to flirt. It means nothing. They like the entertainment and messing with men. They like feeling desired and being able to shut men down and have power over them. Being a tease, essentially. (Many, not all obviously) But stick with super introverted girls and maybe you won’t find this. I’ve found most desirable women are like this and it’s whatever. They don’t mean anything by it. They’re just having fun. The energy they get from that …
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:08 PM
1

Yet people here will often say to shoot your shot regardless anyway. You can’t have it both ways, guys.
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:02 PM
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Flirting isn’t the same as a physical or emotional affair - my guy. It’s not like when a girl gives a guy a hug she then suddenly is sucking his dick either. Many interactions can be completely harmless. Flirting included. One doesn’t have to escalate every interaction. Lotta people in here demonstrating their insecurity. The fact you think your girlfriend is soooo likely to just immediately start gobbling down some dudes cock on the first interaction of meeting someone says a lot about yourself…
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:00 PM
0

The dudes a waiter. He’s already pretty down bad, man. You don’t need to insult him anymore than he already is. Y’all are super insecure. If a guy is flirting with your girlfriend - it doesn’t matter how she responds as long as it doesn’t escalate into an emotional or physical affair. If she wants to be flirty back then whatever - it’s harmless fun. But most of you are acting like, “me grug, me no like woman talking to men. Woman mine. Bash man!”
/r/seduction09/03/22 04:57 PM
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:facepalm: You’re 18? I mean - how many approaches could you really have made as an 18 year old and had meaningful time between them all to see your ?goals? being actualized had an impact. No offense, my guy but you seem to be really early on. You had a minor perspective shift and it helped you - congrats. Sounds like newbie gains with the gym or some shit. I am not sure what kind of goals you could’ve had that would make a substantial difference but they must not be very big ones. If anything -…
/r/seduction09/03/22 12:02 AM
1

Actually, the reason is that more men are born than women by about 5%. Men are just naturally born more often. It’s only by age 40 that women start to outnumber men due to men committing suicide at a much higher rate. Suicide often gets minimized by “drunk driving” events and what not - they won’t label it as a suicide even though it clearly was. You’ll see a young man die every holiday out of a military platoon that is back home due to this cause.
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