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In response to the UN day to end violence against women, is there anywhere in the world where women are significantly the majority victims of violence as opposed to men, per capita or not?

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November 26, 2012
9 upvotes
/r/MensRights

(http://www.un.org/en/events/endviolenceday/2012/sgmessage.shtml)

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Title In response to the UN day to end violence against women, is there anywhere in the world where women are significantly the majority victims of violence as opposed to men, per capita or not?
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Upvotes 9
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Date November 26, 2012 12:07 AM UTC
(13 years ago)
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[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No there is not. Most people cite Arab nations as examples, but in those countries 100% of men are victims of the violence that is euphemistically called circumcision.

[–]AnnArchist 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. There is no such place

[–]rightsbot 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Willravel -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oppression olympics, eh?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm trying to make the point that there's no reason to focus on violence against women as opposed to just violence. The nonexistence of a region where women are majority victims sorta helps that along.

[–]Willravel 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The problem is that you're going to get bogged down in that. One could easily respond:

"Yes, but how much of that violence was perpetrated by men vs. women?" That number would end up looking skewed toward men for a complex list of reasons, but it would appear that men are simply more violent to the casual observer. That's why these things tend not to go well.

Or one could go with the even easier "women are victims of domestic abuse more than men" argument. They'd have the stats, reliable or not, and you'd end up holding the bill at the end.

imho, what matters is that people are victims of violence. Playing numbers games makes it easier for parties looking to derail (consciously or not) debate and discussion. We should concentrate on hings like gender desegregation of the military if we really want to make a dent in something like this. No stats, just the cause.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I... Admittedly don't care about your hypothetical nonexistent derailer.

(Women commit the majority of domestic violence in the U.S. by the way)

[–]C0CKPUNCHER 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If men commit violence or not, is irrelevant to men being the main victim.

The question of domestic violence still doesn't answer the question who is more likely to be the victim of violence - and therefore why address the less pertenate violence first.

Oppression Olympics is important, public money should go to the public good, not be used to buy favors.

[–]Willravel 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If men commit violence or not, is irrelevant to men being the main victim.

I think you've missed the point. Playing oppression olympics is problematic because it can be used to ignore the suffering of the minority. If 1 in 5 victims of spousal abuse is a man (a figure I've made up for the purpose of illustration) that 1 in 5 is just as much in need of help as the 4 in 5. The problem, however, is when the numbers are used to make it seem like the suffering of one group is greater thus the other group shouldn't be paid attention to, which is often the case with oppression olympics arguments.

[–]C0CKPUNCHER 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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