I've been thinking about this for a while and I don't think the MRM should engage with feminists at all anymore, do what you wish but this is what I feel personally, and I think we are going to be moving past the point of just a bunch of random people bitching and moaning about this or that grievance. We are seeing the coagulation of the MRM with avoiceformen as well as little areas like this popping up all over the place. Howeber, the future of the MRM will be in the form of physical strategy for achieving it's aims.

The first question is what our aims should be, and the next question should be how to accomplish them. I'm making a list of some (but not all) of the aims of the MRM, physical aims such as changes in the legal system, etc...:

  1. The inclusion of the word "misandry" in websites and dictionaries.
  2. The forceful inclusion of women into the draft, alongside men.
  3. Spreading the message of MGTOW and the MRM via the media.
  4. Employment of the financial abortion.
  5. Addressing "gay" hysteria among men so that we can work with one another and even care about and for one another (such as in the suicide and homelessness departments) without feeling like this is something negative.
  6. Addressing the glass cellar by demanding that "equal" women take these jobs.
  7. Addressing male alienation from their own children.
  8. Addressing the rape/pedophile/violent demonized image of men

But there are other, more technological milestones we need to reach:

  1. The creation of the artificial womb.
  2. The invention of partner robots that pass as at least semi-real.
  3. The invention of the male pill

I think we need to, as a community, decide which of these goals are the most beneficial to men and which are the most realistic and how we can attain these goals in concrete reality, full stop.

What steps in specific, non-abstract steps, can we take as a group to help make some of these the issues decided on a reality? We can perhaps create a fund at AVFM helping to address the issue of our choice.

Or perhaps we can create a men's center which is set up specifically to address these issues which I am talking about right now. I don't know, I just feel like all this abstract complaining and dialectical mush is only going to get us so far and even if you disagree with everything I am saying I do think we need a concrete strategy to help us achieve at least something somehow in reality, for men.

Can we at least agree on that?

Please add to this list, perhaps we can:

  1. create a list of things which could perhaps be addressed
  2. vote on the order of importance for men
  3. vote on the practicality of it being accomplished
  4. develop strategies for tackling the issue in reality

Just my opinion ppl.