The 2010 NCVS has been released [PDF]

Kill_The_Rich · 2011-09-16T16:24:55+00:00

...it looks like the rape-rate went up, but the report-rate went down. What do you think happened?

truthjusticeca · 2011-09-16T23:50:57+00:00

Thank you very much for sharing.

CaptSnap · 2011-09-16T20:35:32+00:00

Why is the incident rate for rapes going up? So heres whats happened (I think). Many girls go to college and they hear that its rape if she is even the littlest slightest bit intoxicated or if the guy ever asks if she wants to have sex (asking for consent is some kind of hostile environment) so she can decide after the fact that, "yeah something like that happened." Its basically rape if she feels like it was.

She can FEEL like a victim for a much wider range of sexual activity (some activies that arent even sexual at all) so its not surprising that the number of women who FELT they were raped went up. At some point, if you follow this expansive definition to its logical conclusion all the survey is going to be able to find out is how many women had heterosexual sex that year. This is an important criticism of the NCVS, its asking people if they FELT they were the victim of a crime. Like I can park my car in the university president's parking spot and I can return a week later (more like 5 minutes later) and find my car gone. I can feel like the victim of grand theft auto but that doesnt amount to jack shit. But I feel like Ive been raped and report it to the NCVS then suddenly I can get shit like the VAWA or this Dear Colleague bullshit.

Why is the report of rape down? Who knows. Let me give another example of how convulated the survey method is. The NCVS calls people (men and women) and asks if they are the victim of this or that (thats the incident rate). Nevermind like I said before that just because someone feels like a victim has little to do with whether a crime actually occurred. They then compare this incidence rate with the reporting rate. Where do they get the reporting rate? Primarily its compiled using statistics from the Uniform Crime Reporting Handbook issued by the FBI. This tells law enforcement how to report crimes that are reported to them.

What does it say about rape:

NOTE: By definition, sexual attacks on males are excluded from the rape category and must be classified as assaults or other sex offenses depending on the nature of the crime and the extent of injury.

Well that doesnt make sense does it? (they actually have to use the same definition they established in the 20's or somethign to compare historical trends) So youve got one bank of computers calling men and women asking them if they have been raped but then it compares that number to another bank of computers who will only accept that women can be raped.

There is no possible world where the number of "people who have felt like they were raped" could ever equal "the number of women who reported a rape." Thats how bullshit the numbers are.

For all we know the percentage of reported rapes is down because at some point the "victim" differentiates between what feminists tell them is rape (everything) and what is actually rape and decide its probably not worth hearing from a police officer that you werent raped, youre just easy when intoxicated.

There are more and better critiques of the NCVS but those two leap out at me every time I have to deal with it.

Title	The 2010 NCVS has been released [PDF]
Author	Kill_The_Rich
Upvotes	6
Comments	11
Date	September 16, 2011 4:23 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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