This comment (and thread) really defines how it feels to argue with feminists with nothing but honest intentions to help.

lanana · 2011-09-15T04:24:20+00:00

I believe the problem with comments such as yours is timing. Giving tips on how to prevent rape to someone who has just been raped is not helpful to that person. They can't undo the act, go back and be more careful, so it comes off as just rubbing salt in the wounds.

Women are routinely given advice on how to minimize their risk for sexual assault, so to say that giving such advice is somehow objectionable to women is just untrue. Through college I had many a dorm meeting where the RA's would emphasize these kinds of safety tips, don't go out alone, don't drink too much, don't drink around people you don't trust, keep an eye on your friends, don't leave your drink unattended, call public safety if you have to walk alone at night, and so on and so forth, and it's never a big deal, no one gets offended, everyone takes it as sound advice even if it's not always followed. So to say that women are offended by being given advice on how to minimize their risk of being raped is just completely untrue, as it happens all the time. It's all about context.

To put it another way, if a guy came in and told how he had been at a party last night, had a few drinks and hooked up with some girl, then in the morning she remembered she had a boyfriend and accused him of raping her, imagine if all the comments were about how he should be more responsible and not make himself vulnerable to false rape accusations by drinking and having casual sex. Granted, this is sound advice, a guy could greatly minimize his risk of being falsely accused of rape by not drinking and having casual sex with people he doesn't know well and trust completely. But at this point it's not so helpful to the guy who's already stuck in the situation, and just comes off as victim blaming. And in reality, neither of these situations is 100% preventable, and the only one completely responsible is the offender.

mtux96 · 2011-09-15T07:31:07+00:00

This whole mess shows exactly why you shouldn't post things online about something horrible that happened to you. More so, it shows why you shouldn't post it and push an agenda along with it. Stories with an agenda behind them are scrutinized more. People simply don't trust people with agendas as they do trust people telling a story without an agenda.

Guy51234 · 2011-09-14T20:30:04+00:00

And he says he's gay. Well we all know that's no excuse for his raping that thread or the 3 girls I heard he raped while writing that post.

We've all heard that rapist's come in all demographics so by logical deductablity gays must be some of the biggest rapist, I mean, they must be hiding something, I asked my girl friends and not one of them has been asked out on a date by a gay guy, it's soooo creepy.

Kuonji · 2011-09-14T19:44:32+00:00

No way. Orkid68 is a rape apologist. In fact, he probably raped three girls while writing that post. It's so obvious. He just wants to CONFLATE the issue to cover his rapey activities.

Title	This comment (and thread) really defines how it feels to argue with feminists with nothing but honest intentions to help.
Author	mellowgreen
Upvotes	6
Comments	4
Date	September 14, 2011 6:08 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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