Best response (so far) regarding Good men Project:"GMP is going to be the battlefield that will push our movement to it's next level."

aetheralloy · 2011-03-17T03:35:36+00:00

The thing I don't like is it feels like we are buying into a trap - where they get a lot of free attention & advertising by "being the battlefield" They are essentially trolling us to get themselves advertising revenue.

This subreddit has power, power that we got by not needing anyone else, by not depending on approval - but by doing it all ourselves. That type of power attracts leeches. It attracts feminists who try to stop us. It attracts businesses who want to profit from it. The best thing we can do is keep hold of that power, here.

So if MRA's want to go to the GMP and fight on their turf, that's fine. More power to you. I'm not going to though. I'm going to play defense here and keep the forge hot.

luciansolaris · 2011-03-17T02:13:50+00:00

I don't say this too often, and maybe I should...

It's a mistake to try and leverage the MRM off of Feminism. A very bad one.

In fact, associating ourselves with "gender politics" is the fastest way to kill our movement. Associating ourselves with "victim" anything will kill us.

The mens movement spent YEARS placating, defending ourselves against, and begging feminists to hear our plea.

Know what they did? They laughed. They ignored us. They painted us all as satanic baby-rapers.

For having the sheer audacity to suggest men and women should have equal rights.

The Feminist movement is NOT nice. It never has been, and never will be.

The feminist movement is NOT "male positive". It never has been, and never will be.

They may have the backing and the clout. But they are the establishment. They are the cultural zeitgeist. And even if it's deniable, everyone knows it's true.

And people are not happy with the feminized world. Women OR men.

We are a rebellion. We demand fairness because we KNOW it is owed us (Constitutionally speaking, at least). We are growing because people AGREE with us...

We are not a political party. We are not supplicants. We are not begging for help from them.

We are a rebellion.

For fuck's sake, stop asking mommy's permission first.

kragshot · 2011-03-17T04:21:20+00:00

The only other alternative I can think of then is for us to create something similar, yet something that is managed in a less biased atmosphere...a "Better Men Project" or the like.

A place where we can discuss male issues and where the "alleged feminist" men and us can meet and logically discuss our issues without the BS that is being put forth in GMP.

How about that then?

AntiFeministMedia · 2011-03-17T02:56:16+00:00

The problem is, that by all of us going there, we give it a level of significance it doesnt deserve, even if we're opposing it.

If individual MRA's want to go there and post, fine, but I dont believe its needed. Its like all the other bullshit sites. We cant expend all our energy on these places.

Their readership will drop away and post at more prominent sites, like real MRA sites who's views reflect their own, and like the comments sections of the online daily newspapers who have vastly more readers.

Let the place die alone, with its cats.

2011-03-17T02:48:36+00:00

[permanently deleted]

2011-03-17T02:49:15+00:00

[permanently deleted]

2011-03-17T02:50:57+00:00

[permanently deleted]

2011-03-17T02:51:42+00:00

[permanently deleted]

Title	Best response (so far) regarding Good men Project:"GMP is going to be the battlefield that will push our movement to it's next level."
Author	kloo2yoo
Upvotes	4
Comments	10
Date	March 17, 2011 1:00 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g5j9o/best_response_so_far_regarding_good_men/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/best-response-so-far-regarding-good-men-projectgmp.1042048 https://theredarchive.com/post/1042048

Comments