Anti-MRA Blog wants to know: Why aren't MRAs participating in Flores-Villar vs US

kloo2yoo · 2010-10-12T00:29:58+00:00

I hate the blog but it does raise interesting questions. My cursory search didn't turn up anything at Glesnn Sacks / Robert Franklin's site or at MND.

imo, it should be the same length of time for either the mother or the father. But if that happens, then what's to stop someone who aspires to be a US citizen from acquiring a frozen pop while travelling to the US, or, for that matter, collecting semen donations to sell overseas?

thesmos · 2010-10-12T02:24:37+00:00

The ACLU is the proper organization to involve itself in such issues. Oh look, they already have. All the feminist groups support the petitioner just like any MRA would. There is no argument here. Only a cheap dig at MRA's: "why, oh why, is the men’s rights movement so worthless?"

A good summary of the case.

The law has already been amended. It has already been made more fair. One day, MRA groups will have the kind of funding that lets them have an entire legal arm which sends amicus briefs to the SCOTUS. Until then, the ACLU will do just fine. We're still working on getting people to believe that when a wife/girlfriend beats the shit out of their husband/boyfriend -- it is domestic violence.

2010-10-12T01:14:21+00:00

I'm not familiar with that blog or why they are allowed to attack, stereotype, and invent falsehoods about MRAs but MRAs are not allowed to attack back... and I don't really care to become familiar enough to know.

That isn't journalism. It isn't even a blog. It is just horse manure.

XFDRaven · 2010-10-12T00:14:12+00:00

Don't bother posting in the comments section, if you aren't on their side of the politics you don't get moderator's approval.

It's pretty easy to understand why pro-women/feminist groups are in support of this. A stateless child does not fall under jurisdiction of US family court laws. The mother has no means to collect against the father for any kind of "child support" she would use on herself. There must also be a question of the kinds of problems caused when the father is US born and the mother is not, in terms of custody. The mother probably gets to keep the kid in her homeland and still collect. The kid is an innocent pawn in the whole scheme.

The bait-and-switch here is that the MRAs who are right-wingers are probably against it because it gives a "Mexican" US Citizen status, and then subsequently says "because some MRAs are right wingers, they must all be that."

Jacobtk · 2010-10-12T04:31:51+00:00

Isn't it a bit extreme to expect us to get all up in arms over everything? I mean, are we not 'legitimate' if there is a single issue that we do not put up a huge fuss over?

Do we REALLY have that kind of funding?

These bigots are just looking for any possible method they can use to shut up their political opponents. Failing that, they are trying to 'justify' the utter lack of Feminist intervention into both the existence of inequality in mens situations, as well as the erosion of mens rights as result of Feminist action and rhetoric.

In short, it's bullshit shaming tactics, with a liberal use of about 5 logical fallacies to support their 'indignation'.

So.... Pretty much the same speed as all the other shit Feminists pull.

Maschalismos · 2010-10-12T00:42:57+00:00

ive seen her stuff before...and normally i disagree with her

but dammit she is right

Grayswan · 2010-10-12T01:37:49+00:00

Speaking for myself, I don't have kids and never plan to, so the outcome of the case will have no effect on me. But in addition to that, this law probably affects very few people at all, so in the grand scheme of things, it's peanuts.

Title	Anti-MRA Blog wants to know: Why aren't MRAs participating in Flores-Villar vs US
Author	XFDRaven
Upvotes	8
Comments	24
Date	October 12, 2010 12:09 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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