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Wikileaks founder Julian Assange sought by Swedish police on suspicion of rape in Stockholm. Claims "dirty tricks". In general, is the threat of a false rape claim credible, and can the threat of a false rape claim create a chilling effect on men's free speech?

DougDante

August 21, 2010
6 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/21731247584
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Title Wikileaks founder Julian Assange sought by Swedish police on suspicion of rape in Stockholm. Claims "dirty tricks". In general, is the threat of a false rape claim credible, and can the threat of a false rape claim create a chilling effect on men's free speech?
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DougDante

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Date August 21, 2010 10:50 AM UTC
(15 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[+][deleted] 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]stemgang 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Translated:

The application of customary Assange

Chief prosecutor Eva Is has lifted by Julian Assange. She does not believe that there are reasons for him to remain in custody. "I do not think there is reason to suspect that he committed rape," says Eva Finn. Eva Is leaving no further comment on Saturday.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

BBC News article containing much the same information.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

here we go. false rape is a standard CIA/'intelligence community' tactic i presume.

wow.

just wow.

[–]stemgang 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The CIA is under tremendous pressure to silence and discredit him. They still think they can taint the evidence by smearing the source.

In an age of widespread document dissemination, this tactic will no longer work. We can judge the leaked materials for ourselves, and the source's credibility only comes into play if he is editorializing, or if there is suspicion of forgery.

[–]Tangurena 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it is too politically convenient for this charge against Assange at this time. While it is theoretically possible for him to have done it, and as Eliot Spitzer's downfall shows, many things are possible, but, no, this charge doesn't pass the laugh test.

[–]jay76 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would the CIA be the only ones out to silence him?

I'm fairly certain there would be some civilians who disagree with what he has done as well.

[–]Hamakua 5 points6 points7 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am really hoping he had the foresight and shrewdness to keep a recording device on himself at all times 24/7. I would not be surprised if he did and if-so, this will benefit him. I know if I were him I sure as hell would.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He should be wearing wire everywhere he goes.

[–]etherspirit 5 points6 points7 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is rape the only crime where you often legally cannot know who your accuser is? That is in and of itself a very bad precedent. Kafka-esqe. It's no wonder that people use false rape accusation as a weapon.

[–]fishwish 7 points8 points9 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd also like to remind people that in Sweden, women get paid insurance money for merely accusing rape. They don't have to be right or prove their case.

This came up with the recent accusations from the scam being run be a Swedish women in the Greek isles.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/08/10/swedish-woman-running-rape-scam-on-greek-island/

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is incredible. It really deserves a submission of its own.
Although this case collapsed when the woman didn't front court, I wonder if she had followed through with the accusations before.

It seems like travel guides need to start warning men of false rape.

[–]fishwish 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was already submitted a few months ago.

[–]calzenn 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And you wonder why men should also be not identified until found guilt in rape charges?

This, although false still will stain him for a long time.... "well... maybe he did..." will be with him forever, like a lot of guys!

[–]kloo2yoo 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

accusations withdrawn

[–]stemgang 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

The twitter links to Google Translate (of an Expressen news article).

Last night he was arrested in his absence by Swedish prosecutors to date, according to Expressen.

In the US, "arrest" means the cops physically seized his body and put him in jail. Could "arrested in his absence" mean they issued a warrant for his arrest?

[–]mrdelayer 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably just a bad translation. I'm guessing it was probably an arraignment, not an arrest.

[–]stemgang 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So...what criminal charges will be filed against the false rape accuser?

[–]fishwish -5 points-4 points-3 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Update

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article7652935.ab

Woman in question (30yo) correcting things from articles (according to her):

  • 30yo was not raped, only molested
  • other woman (20-30yo) was raped
  • Does NOT feel threatened. It is "entirely incorrect" that [we] are afraid of Julian Assange. He is not violent and [I] do not feel threatened by him.
  • In both cases it's consensual sex that then started "at a later stage" being rape/molestation WTF?!!?
  • Not staged by pentagon

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is this a reputable source? It looks like a trashy tabloid.

[–]fishwish 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't read swedish, so I am reliant on other's. I'll let you did through the news threads but the crown's website have dropped charges.

[–]blargh9001 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes, it's a trashy tabloid.

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