men: 10 archetypes

FreddyDeus · 2010-05-10T00:45:05+00:00

Men resisted the movement until they could do so no longer. As women took steps to define their own gender roles, men missed the opportunity to do the same.

This is bullshit. Men, in terms or relationships with women, professional, social and intimate have actually changed their attitudes far more than women have.

We were left with a confused, ragtag concept of what it means to be a man, defined not by ourselves, but rather by contrasting ideals from two sources — liberated women and posterity.

Of course men have been left confused by contrasting ideals from two sources. But this is not of our doing. Anyone remember the concept of the New Man? The loving, caring, open, sensitive male that women of the 80s and 90s all said they wanted, but which, of course, they didn't.

A former long-term girlfriend of mine, who was in a professional career and earned a good salary, complained to me once that the waiters in restaurants always brought the bill to me (the man) rather than her (the woman) and how sexist that was. I told her that the situation was easily rectified. She asked how. I said "Maybe you should ask the waiter for the bill from time to time".

That is a perfect illustration of this article's "contrasting ideals".

nuuur32 · 2010-05-09T17:38:42+00:00

I thought from the cowboy example things would get stronger but they got weaker.

matches42 · 2010-05-09T17:30:17+00:00

So what do you think this scale implies? Is it just showing the dichotomy of loner - very emotional or is there an implication that one side is better than the other?

In my opinion no one should be completely alone, and opening up to a few close friends (and significant other) is a good thing, yet the super emotional, heart on your sleeve type is unhealthy too. So somewhere in the middle is ideal for me.

plumeria · 2010-05-09T17:51:18+00:00

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Title	men: 10 archetypes
Author	kloo2yoo
Upvotes	10
Comments	10
Date	May 9, 2010 3:59 PM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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