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NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.

kanuk876

May 8, 2010
75 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/10/national/main5962973.shtml
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Title NY Man Free after Woman Recants Rape Claim. He was 3 years into a 20-year prison term.
Author

kanuk876

Upvotes 75
Comments 37
Date May 8, 2010 7:33 PM UTC
(16 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/c1jn3/ny_man_free_after_woman_recants_rape_claim_he_was/
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Comments

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 16 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Call me crazy, but did the video show the man's lawyer saying that this woman was courageous for coming forward? What the fuck makes her courageous? Ruining a man's life? Yeah. Real courage.

[+][deleted] 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. And, that's one of my points.

[–]Mesca 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Ok, I will call you crazy. "You're crazy."

I agree that it takes courage to admit when you've erred, especially in such a public fashion, especially when the results have been so damaging to another person. It takes real courage to correct one's mistakes.

I don't think we should revere her for making the mistake in the first place. But for finally, at last, doing what she could to correct the mistake, we should recognize her courage.

If more people acted like this woman, there would be many fewer men in jail. If more people honored this behavior, people wuold have a way out of fuckups rather than the "I'll stick to my story til I die" approach that is common now.

My ex took my kids away based on an allegation of abuse. In my guess she made the allegation in order to cover her own ass, to justify and excuse her irresponsible drinking and affair. She felt it was her only way to avoid losing the kids.

Now that her strategy "worked", and I am completely out of their lives, does she really believe it? Does she really think the kids are better off with me completely out of their lives?

But it's impossible for her to recant now, after the carnage she's caused. She's too far down the road.

If only she had the courage of the woman in this news story.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

It takes real courage to correct one's mistakes.

Yes, but this wasn't a mistake. An example of a mistake was when Ron Artest punched the wrong guy after getting a beer thrown on him. This woman lied, then let the man suffer for 3 years.

I don't think we should revere her for making the mistake in the first place. But for finally, at last, doing what she could to correct the mistake, we should recognize her courage.

Again, it's not a mistake. And, she really didn't correct the mistake. She's only recanting to save her ass.

If more people acted like this woman, there would be many fewer men in jail.

If more people acted like this woman, there would be plenty of other people serving a few years in jail for something they did not do.

If more people honored this behavior, people wuold have a way out of fuckups rather than the "I'll stick to my story til I die" approach that is common now.

I see where you're going with this, but I just cannot agree. We shouldn't honor this shitty, childish behavior.

If only she had the courage of the woman in this news story.

This woman is a coward. She didn't recant until there was evidence that she lied.

"Peguero confessed her lie to a priest and then to authorities this year."

See? She confessed this year. But, when was the man set out on bail? Since September. That means that there's a few month in-between, where evidence showed he hadn't raped her, and when she finally confessed. I believe this woman is only pretending to feel bad, so that she can get out of more serious charges.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

agreed.

she should have left the country. what a wuss thing to do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

So, let's say a warden let's an insane murderer go free, then the gets word of his 'escape' causing the warden to re-jail him. However, let's say the warden is almost fatally wounded while apprehending the man. Would you call the warden brave and courageous after that?

She brought it on herself and deserves no praise.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

no, no praise.

just an acknowledgment of (at least) the 'act' of contrition, no matter the motive behind it.

time passes, people have to move on. wouldn't they be stuck otherwise?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If she recanted before evidence showed she was a liar and before the man was let out of prison, then I might feel slightly less angry. But, she waited until she was pretty much caught. So, she gets nothing from me.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

right.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad you agree I'm right.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

there wasn't much else I could do.

for the record, I'd have nailed the bitch to a wall. literally.

and taken great pleasure in doing so, but...hey, that's just me.

[–]Mesca -2 points-1 points0 points 16 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Well I think lying is a mistake. You apparently don't. In any case I'm not interested in an argument about semantics.

I believe this woman is only pretending to feel bad, so that she can get out of more serious charges.

Maybe you're right. I didn't read the piece, but from what you say, it sounds like she's trying to wiggle out after having been caught. That's not commendable behavior, I agree completely.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Lying is a mistake? Really? Your alternate reality sounds like one interesting place. A lie, almost inherently, is not a mistake and takes deliberate crafting as to be misleading. Such as something completely pathetic like crying rape, for example.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I don't see how a lie, especially this type, could be remotely considered a mistake.

[–]Mesca 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What's a mistake then? How about driving too fast and crashing? IS that a mistake? or... is it deliberate irresponsibility? What about forgetting to record a debit, which results in a bounced check? mistake? or is it willfully careless bookkeeping.

You're not very forgiving, eh?

you ever make a mistake?

a big one?

Think you might, one day?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How about driving too fast and crashing? IS that a mistake?

No, that's reckless driving. So, yes, it's deliberate responsibility.

What about forgetting to record a debit, which results in a bounced check? mistake?

Yes, that's a mistake. Why? Because, there was no malicious intent behind it.

or is it willfully careless bookkeeping.

Well, if the person purposely decided not to write it down, then yes.

You're not very forgiving, eh?

Let's see how forgiving you are after spending 3 years in jail over a lie. I'm sure your views on what constitutes a lie will dramatically change.

This should help you a bit...

Lie: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive.

Mistake: a misunderstanding or misconception.

[–]Mesca 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's see how forgiving you are after spending 3 years in jail over a lie

I lost my kids over a series of lies. My own children. My beloved children. It's not for 3 years. It's forever.

If I don't forgive I am lost.

People make mistakes. Sometimes they're very big ones.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those weren't mistakes. Those were lies. You can forgive someone for either, but don't confuse the two.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you're right. I didn't read the piece

I'm not going to downvote, but next time please read the article before you call me crazy.

[–]Mesca -2 points-1 points0 points 16 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

With all the commenting I do, I really don't have time to actually read the things I comment on.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So, how often do people call you stupid for running your mouth before getting facts?

[–]Mesca -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

is it fun for you, to insult people?

[–]1ArmyOfNone 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't sound like he's insulting you, what he's doing is asking you a fair question. How often do you argue with people without even reading the facts you're arguing about first?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1ArmyOfNone answers your question for you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I had a moment of respect for Dahmer when the news story came out alleging he had asked to be allowed in the main population areas.

nothing wrong with having respect for a monster or someone who has done monstrous things.

What's her name? I'll convince her to recant.

[–]Mesca 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't get it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

your final statement was a lament.

I was just trying to reassure you that it is a possibility that someday your ex may find the courage to right the wrong she's done you.

Jeffrey sexually assaulted, tortured and then ate the people he wronged.

He found his moment to do justice by supposedly setting 'wolves' upon his creepy freaked out ass, so maybe she can find some integrity inside her and do what's right by you instead.

My sons used to get annoyed with me (okay, they still do) when I'd often make them answer this question with a canned response.

"What is the first thing you do after you've done wrong?"

"The right thing."

[–]1ArmyOfNone 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Courage is dealing with your problems in a way that doesn't put an innocent man in prison for 3 years. Courage is not, under any circumstance, doing the right thing. She isn't a courages woman, she's a coward who ran from her personal problems by destroying a mans life. She is an incredibly selfish woman who lacks even the smallest amount of decency. She can't give the guy back those three years. I can't believe anybody would think that a woman making right on terrible thing she did was courageous.

[–]Leprecon 5 points6 points7 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a somewhat old article and the results are in: 3 Years with first possibility of parole in 1 year

What I think is interesting is how there is DNA evidence that suggests he is not a rapist. This evidence was only beginning to get uncovered after a couple of years. The evidence was not used in the original trial I guess. Usually when people are cleared of wrong doing through DNA evidence it is because DNA tests didn't exist back when the crime was committed. Apparently DNA evidence wasn't commonplace in 2005...

[–]1ArmyOfNone 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This woman has kids? In what would does she think she should be given less of a sentence because she has kids? She's not fit to be a mother. Not when you commit a crime like this. It's unbelievable that the only thing she's guilty of is purgery according to the court system. There should be laws against sending an innocent man to jail for three years. Instead we have lying under oath. This woman got a slap on the wrist.

[–]Salif 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

innocent until proven guilty my ass

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it's innocent until proven guilty, unless you're a man, in which case you're guilty by default.

Shit like this makes me livid.

[–]1ArmyOfNone -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's presumed innocent until proven guilty. Just because you haven't been convicted doesn't mean you're not guilty.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Think of the book deal she's going to get.

Edit: Better yet, they hire a ghostwriter and do a book together, telling both sides of the story. But he gets 90% of the royalties, plus the same share of any income related to the non-incident that she might receive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lock her up for six years in solitary. Then sue her ass for millions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So what sort of punishment, if any, do you think she deserves? A really hard slap on the wrist?

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