8 Months in, still can't cope with alot of things regarding hate towards women, could really use advice on ONS, I'm just really fucking angry.

Sir_Distic · 2016-05-10T21:42:19+00:00

A plate. That's what comes between a ONS and LTR. Basically a short term relationship.

Fuck, hang out, etc.

You sound young. When you get older you'll have less time and energy for anger. Let that shit go.

MalVortex · 2016-05-11T01:03:59+00:00

I absolutely despise society as it is,

have a really intense hate for women

I do like to use people as test subjects though

I lie alot, make alot of bullshit stories

She literally looked up to me as some holy mentor, just because I acted like I was one

but she now thinks I fucked 17 women over the course of 3 months including a few married ones.

I really don't know what to fucking do. Any tips?

There's a huge amount of negativity in your post. You hate society, you hate women, you lie about yourself and hide behind a mask. If that's how you want to live your life, then keep on keeping on. I suspect from your question, however, that you aren't satisfied with the current situation. Ultimately, you'll need to let go of your hatred. Hatred of your past failures, your present inadequacies, your future worries. You'll need to let go of your hatred for society and women and whatever other categories of hate you can describe.

I know I sound like some sort of Zen monk saying that. I'm not. It's been a real process for myself to move past that pit of hatred, and I fuel plenty of my own growth with Wrath still today. Ultimately, life is what you make it. You can hate everything on the planet and the moon and the sun... but remember, nobody else cares. You can love everything on the planet as the worlds most happy-go-lucky Beta if you want... but still nobody else cares. If anger - however personally justifiable - consumes your life to your own detriment, then you'll need to let that anger go. This is the root to your unhappiness and the question you're asking without realizing.

As for your relationships with women... this too is something you'll need to work out yourself. If you want to go the full 'fuck-everything' route and sleep with otherwise taken women, that's cool. Just don't be upset that a cheating woman slept with you when that was your aim altogether. There are women out there who won't* cheat; you can be a total player AND only bed single women. You can be choosy and sleep only with 'high-quality' women (however you chose to define that), or only with hot women. Maybe the thing you care most about is super slutty women that put out easily - go for it!

.* YMMV

This is the blessing and the curse of TRP: it cuts through all the bullshit surrounding your life. In my opinion, accepting the red pill is really about accepting responsibility: that you are responsible for your own life, for your own happiness, and for your own choices. If sleeping with taken women doesn't make you happy because [reasons], then don't sleep with taken women. This is what all those 'sexual strategy is amoral' lines are about. Figure out who you want to be as a man and as an individual. Let your sexual strategy flow from a place of masculine strength that brings happiness and satisfaction to your own life.

You might find Models by Mark Manson or The Book of Pook to be relevant to the question your posing. Both texts deal with interpersonal/sexual relationships alongside some degree of finding contentment with your life.

P.S: I've recently started working in sales and honed my manipulation skills etc etc, now life seems really boring because everybody trusts me while I do nothing but lie, talk shit, and dominate people, It's really saddening, is this all there is to life? Is it really this fucking easy to deceive people, to mess with their heads? Are they really that fucking trusting when I don't even trust my own mother?

You can be in sales without being a dishonorable cretin the entire time. Sales is ultimately about solutions facilitation. They have a problem or a need, and you have the answer. Much like sexual strategy, you can take this into the dark psychopathic land of screwing people over and hiding shit in unreadable contracts or outright manipulating the buyer into detrimental transactions. If you can live that life and sleep well at night, good for you. Go make that paper.

There's another way to look at this profession though: you are the guy with the answer to a problem. You bring value as a trusted resource, advisor, and facilitator to make your client (however temporary a relationship) better off than before they met you. Rather than lying, talking shit, and trying to dominate people, you could speak the truth, not-talk shit, and let people go their own way. Outcome independence isn't just for your interactions with girls! The world is full of 2-bit sales guys whose only purpose in life is to get a signature at the bottom of a piece of paper; that doesn't mean your own career has to play out that way.

That 'honorable facilitator sales-guy' is a very high-minded ideal to aspire towards. In reality, most sales jobs are probably just [jobs] and are neither particularly devious nor particularly honorable. Still, it might help your self-perception if you can find a way to make money through sales whilst making the other guy's life better at the same time. Hell, it might just make you a better salesman along the way too. Food for thought.

lotheraliel · 2016-05-10T22:34:47+00:00

I cannot stand the thought of girls being the whores they are

you're having as much sex as they are

just feel like the innocent and cute image I had of girls is completely crushed, and I refuse to accept the image of them actually being pure whorishness

sounds like you have a madonna-whore complex

I just can't deal with being just another dick

that's a really uneahlthy attitude, you seem to have crippling insecurities

Merah_Statis · 2016-05-10T21:28:13+00:00

What are you saying? You "can't do ONS"?

Think about the words you've written. You're saying you can't have sex with a girl only one time? So you mean like... Once you have sex with a girl once you are compelled to have sex with her again no matter what?

A one night stand is just a term for having sex with someone once. And guess what, that's not up to you. Some girls are gonna have sex with you and then never want to see you again, especially if you seem like a player.

Are you saying you can't help a woman cheat? I'm just baffled by the statement "I just can't do ONS" because I literally have no idea what the fuck you're talking about or what you're trying to articulate

JackAttack451 · 2016-05-11T02:19:00+00:00

I know the hate feeling very well, but let me tell you that lashing out and trying to be an antagonist, lying, bullshitting people and manipulating them is not the way to go. You're no better than the ones you hate if you do this, as cliche as that sounds. Focus on being a better person yourself and ignore everyone else's bullshit. Don't focus on making other people miserable.

ecosci · 2016-05-15T03:40:37+00:00

Hey calm down, anger can affect your t levels except the facts women are onesided whores and will cheat at some point we all have been lied to but the more guys come here the better, trp is booming and youtube is also teaching men.

Whisper · 2016-05-10T23:33:27+00:00

You are mourning something that never existed.

There are no good women. There are only well-led women. The only thing that keeps women from being bitches or whores is patriarchy.

You are angry because you still expect women to be adults. They are not adults. Not one of them.

Women are children. If they fuck up, it's the babysitter's fault.

Stop respecting women, and you will stop being angry at them.

Title	8 Months in, still can't cope with alot of things regarding hate towards women, could really use advice on ONS, I'm just really fucking angry.
Author	Merah_Statis
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Comments	24
Date	May 10, 2016 8:49 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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