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Talk of toxic masculinity puts the blame in all the wrong places. [By A Feminist]

UnHope20

August 1, 2021
62 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
https://psyche.co/ideas/talk-of-toxic-masculinity-puts-the-blame-in-all-the-wrong-places?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzqnUh82Q8gIVfyGtBh09mA_TEAAYASAAEgIHPvD_BwE
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Title Talk of toxic masculinity puts the blame in all the wrong places. [By A Feminist]
Author

UnHope20

Upvotes 62
Comments 4
Date August 1, 2021 8:07 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/ovza3s/talk_of_toxic_masculinity_puts_the_blame_in_all/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/talk-of-toxic-masculinity-puts-the-blame-in-all.1060800
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Comments

[–]UnHope20[S] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with every single thing written in this article. But this is one of the best critiques of the concept of toxic masculinity that I have seen from a feminist. It is clear, concise and thought provoking.

I am curious to hear your feedback on this. Why do you agree or disagree with the author's points?

[–]TheLWMA 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I read the article, but I still don't understand the message it's trying to get across. I need a tl;dr.

[–]UnHope20[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Focusing on identifying individual examples poor behavior in men and labelling toxic masculinity actually perpetuates the real issues behind the bad behaviors.

The main problem that she sees is that the discussion that needs to be had is about classism and racism but toxic masculinity is acting as a red herring.

EDIT: These two paragraphs effectively summarize her thesis.

It is also unclear that gender is as important a form of social difference as toxic masculinity ‘theory’ suggests when it comes to mapping how oppression takes root under the current conditions of capitalism. Indeed, a main purpose of toxic masculinity is to distract us from race and class by preoccupying us with gender, where gender difference is itself divorced from processes of capitalist value creation.

Anti-toxic-masculinity projects masquerade as progressive and equality-seeking. In reality, they turn our attention away from the structures of power that enable the worst and most widespread harms inflicted on people, such as war and economic brutality. In so doing, they make some of the most vulnerable men and boys, whom they purport to protect, objects of scrutiny and discipline.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good stuff!

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