Someone denying the number of male rape victims... on a post about rape culture

a-man-from-earth · 2021-04-28T11:49:36+00:00

Removed under rule 11. This post is better suited for /r/everydaymisandry. Unfortunately occurrences like this are very common.

McNultyLikesJameson · 2021-04-28T09:40:52+00:00

Someone claimed that rape victims were "largely" female, and male victims "largely" had male perpetrators.

I pointed out that studies showed 30% of rape victims were men, and the majority of their perpetrators were female.

I didn't have the source off hand and they ended up mocking my claim.

I ended up producing a review of 40 studies regarding rape and sexual abuse, that generally show men experience it at half the rate women do, even in heterosexual relationships.

They still weren't having it.

CDC studies also had men at 30% of rape victims, and specifically had 18-19% of rape victims being men who had female perpetrators. Note as well, that the responses for MTP had increased each year a new report was released, and the "regular" rape statistics included attempted, while MTP did not.

FinallyReborn · 2021-04-28T11:48:28+00:00

Time to pull out the good ol' studies.

In the NISVS in 2010, CDC found that 1.1% of men were forced to penetrate, and 1.1% of women were raped (Table 2.1 and 2.2 on pages 18 and 19).
In the NISVS in 2011, CDC found that 1.7% of men were forced to penetrate and 1.0% of women were raped (Table 1, page 5).
In the NISVS in 2012, CDC found that 1.7% of men were forced to penetrate and 1.2% of women were raped (Table A.1 and A.5 on pages 217 and 222).
In the NISVS in 2015, CDC found that 0.7% of men were forced to penetrate and 1.2% of women were raped (Table 1 and 2 on pages 15 and 16).

Rape is defined as being penetrated by the CDC, meaning when a man is victimized by a woman, which is a majority of cases, it isn't added to the "rape" graph, instead it's added to the "forced to penetrate" graph. Look into Mary P. Koss, the advisor for the CDC if you want to find out why this is. The following link is an article that critiques the definition of rape that was used.

https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

Men are 30% of lifetime victims according to the CDC, but lifetime statistics tend to be unreliable because the memory of rape tends to fade out after a single year, there could be confusion of events, false interpretations on how they view their victimization that took place long ago.

The following study found that 20% of critical details of rape start to diminish and become irretrievable after a single year, this extends to 50% after 5 years, this would heavily skew the data because women are less likely to internalize their victimization and are much more likely to report.

https://print.ispub.com/api/0/ispub-article/13060

Even for lifetime stats, 30% is a substantial number and should not be overlooked, compared to how little male rape is reported, and how most people view it as barely existent.

But as for non-CDC studies.

This 2012 study by Lara Stemple, using a sample of 43,000 adults, there was reportedly little difference in self-reported sexual predators, of those who said they forced somebody to have sex against their will, 43% were women and 56% were men.

https://malesurvivorbop.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/StempleFloresMeyer2016femaleperpetators.pdf

In this study, with a sample size of 7,667 university students, from 38 cites around the world, participants reported their sexual victimization by a partner within the last year of the survey being taken place, 2.8% of men and 2.3% of women reported being victim in their former or current relationship, more men reported being victim of “forced” sex, whereas slightly more women reported being victim of "verbal coercion".

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6474011_Predictors_of_Sexual_Coercion_Against_Women_and_Men_A_Multilevel_Multinational_Study_of_University_Students

Men are 9x less likely to come forward with their stories. Which would highly hinder the rates that men report their victimization, meaning the studies I just linked could be underreporting.

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-39470-001

Here are four threads that cite dozens more studies on male sexual abuse.

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i0j2g9/some_sources_on_sexual_abuse_of_men_and_boys/

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i6sdli/some_sources_on_sexual_abuse_of_men_and_boys_part/

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/iavcnv/some_sources_on_sexual_abuse_of_men_and_boys_part/

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/koinom/some_sources_on_the_sexual_abuse_of_men_and_boys/

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Phantombiceps · 2021-04-28T11:27:00+00:00

Isn’t actually slightly more male rape victims? Which country are we talkin about?

Title	Someone denying the number of male rape victims... on a post about rape culture
Author	McNultyLikesJameson
Upvotes	21
Comments	6
Date	April 28, 2021 9:37 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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