In UK, gender gap in education started exactly in 1986, exactly when the O-level system was was scrapped and new GCSE system came. It was first time teacher biased non exam marking could affect grades (which favours girls see OECD study) - why is GCSEs not described as institutional sexist system?

austin101123 · 2020-08-30T15:43:19+00:00

Wow. Rarely do you see something with such a strong and noticeable correlation.

mhandanna · 2020-08-30T15:00:26+00:00

Read more here:

The large gender bias of teachers in particular not only gives boys lower grades for identical work to girls (thus directly giving them lower grades) - it also means that they are put into the wrong classes and streamed into lower set abilities and even take lower exams (a foundation paper is a paper that is for less able students, the highest mark they can get then is a C instead of A* being highest mark). This bias starts from early childhood, leading to constant lowering of sets, and also pupil ambition and self confidence.

All studies about not just marking bias and sexism but also behaviour management too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/ght5dj/teachers_mark_girls_higher_for_identical_work_to/

I believe with all this latest man bashing in media past 5 years especially, masculinity bad etc womanz good stuff (women are wonderful effect) its going to get worse, as the above biases as show in the studies are due to sexist attitudes teachers have of boys and also of sexist favourble attitudes they have of girls.

Anytime I have seen boys in education, or on a school trip etc. all I see is teachers, particularly female ones constantly shouting at them and telling them off e.g. sit still, don't talk, dont move etc, constant policiing when they are literally doing nothing bad, just being normal.... teachers need to get better, not blame kids. I remember being assigned looking after a group of boys in a group trip once i volunteered to do as a summer vluntary thing once (this was years before I knew all of this stuff and the studies, in fact I was still a feminsit then, so my findings are not biased by knowing these studies at all and compeltely independant thoughts) - all I did was just watch them and make sure they were safe, having a good time, no one was being left out etc. instaed of constantly berating and shouting at them for stupid irrelvant stuff.... the kids really noticed this and loved me for it, They were incredibly respectful to me and literally did anything I said as a result, and suddenly these "problematic" hard to handle kids, were not that at all, I managed their behaviour easily, somehting these moron sexist teachers couldnt do. They really are shit teachers. It also brought out the best in the kids, I realised how mature and thoughtful they were, how funny, caring etc. The most shocking thing was, I once did this to a young group of kids, in a day trip one of the kids even came up to and said I love how you let us have fun but always make sure we are safe and everyone is included... I thought WTF? How the heck has this tiny kid picked up on that? That is incredibly observant. That is exactly what I was doing.... kids really pick up on these biases. There's studies showing how boys and girls from a very early age recognise boys are treated unfairly by teachrs, and they even know the marking bias and subsequently boys know they get less marks from female teachers and dont try as much (they did a study with betting money on it)... they also did studies were they told boys that girls were smarter and their test results went down, and then did it again telling them boy and girls were equally smart and there was no gender gap. This is why I think it will get worse in coming years with all these toxic masculinity women are wonderful bullshite

The gender education attaintment gap is not discussed that much, but even less so is the behavioural and puniihment gap. No one seems to want to think that 84% of early ed teachers and and 96% of teaching assistants being female would lead (and many of these teachers are heavily feminist and aactvely anti male) dont know how to look after boys and end up punishing them for normal beahviour.... and then they gaslight and say girls are better suited to education.... yet these same types assume any other far less gender segregated field that has less women than men, but for adults, not kids here, is automatically sexist against women.

Ask a feminist, why are there less women in x? SEXISMMM misogyny, cultural miosgyny, discriminatoin. We need xyz and these resources and these policies.

Ask same feminists why boys underperform in school, less good grades, more explusion, more illetracy, more leaving with no qualifcations.... welll ermmm, yeah I guess thats a problem... or more commonly, yeah but the pay gap (what has that got to do with education of boys and girls??) or ermmm no thats fine.

leftwingrightwingall · 2020-08-30T18:26:17+00:00

On standardized tests, boys, despite being discriminated against, still outperform girls in the USA. Feminism needs to keep men down to even appear equal. Clown world politics.

2020-08-30T17:13:26+00:00

fantastic post

VirileMember · 2020-08-31T09:47:54+00:00

Boys' results increase at a significantly faster pace after GCSE replace O-levels than before, so I'm finding this a tad hard to get worked up about

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