It seems that both the feminists and anti-feminists (especially the RedPill morons) agree on this, that women have become less "feminine" than they used to be and that men have become less "masculine" than they used to be. Feminists are proud of this and RedPill morons regret this. But is this even true?
Also, related to this is another claim: that Western women today are less feminine than non-Western women, and that Western men are less masculine than non-Western men. Likewise, both feminists and anti-feminists agree on this. Is this really true?
There are some obvious facts that contradict this narrative. For example, Western women today probably put on more makeup and for a longer time than they ever did (MILF porn would never take off in 18th century). Western women, and women in all countries where the standard of living has improved, are less violent than they have ever been. Women in other parts of the world are actually more violent than women in the West (yes, they are, don't let anyone lie to you). Men, especially aristocratic ones, in the past had some very unmasculine features compared to modern men, they read more poetry and went to gym less often. Women in the past used to do far harder work than modern women do. And so on.
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Well, yeah, that's one point I was trying to make. But even those who claim to want to dispense with 'masculine' and 'feminine' labels used them in order to dispense with them.
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Just the right-wingers talk about this? I'm pretty sure that feminists and left-wingers talk about women being forced to be "feminine" and men being forced to be "masculine" in the past, and how this has changed and today women don't have to be so "feminine" nor men so "masculine".
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There is only one worldwide study on partner violence that included respondents of both sexes, in particular female perpetrators.
Murray Straus 2007 study from 32 countries
On page 7, you have the percentage of women perpetrating both minor and severe violence. You already have the world averages, and if you calculate the averages for Western countries, you will find that both of them are below the world averages.
West: 27% of women perpetrating minor violence, and 8% severe violence
World: 31.6% of women perpetrating minor violence, 10.6% severe violence
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