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EquAliTy

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September 25, 2021

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Title	EquAliTy
Author	Username-bot
Upvotes	317
Comments	37
Date	September 25, 2021 11:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/pv4xdv/equality/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/AntiFeminists/equality.1074398 https://theredarchive.com/post/1074398

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There can be an in between. I hope you read all I'm going to say because I'm not traditional, but I'm not a feminist.

What appeals to you about traditional? Is it because she is kind and nurturing? Or is it because she's the obedient "little woman" at your beck and call? I'm honestly asking because the latter mindset is JUST as problematic as extreme feminism.

IF a man needs to be in control, there is something wrong in his character. I've heard so many men say that women are equal but different AND I agree, but those same men (some of them) want a woman to submit no questions asked. Some of those men say they value a stay at home mom, but really just enjoy it. There's a significant difference there. If a man truly values a stay at home mom, he will let her help make decisions with finances and he will give her a break from parenting and cleaning and cooking sometimes.

What I find problematic with your premise is the gender role argument. Yes, men tend to be a slight bit more Iogical and women tend to be a slight bit more nurturing, but do you really want to adhere to strick gender roles? IF so, don't show emotion and if you do, don't expect a woman to care. Oh... you say women are supposed to be nurturing? Yes, in the strict gender roles we are... but our husbands aren't supposed to need emotional support.

So, go ahead and date/marry someone from overseas... so you can beat your chest and assert your manhood. I'm better off if you're dating them, so I can date men that aren't so polarized.

I will do things to please my man, but not because he's a man. I'll do it because I care about him. I will expect that he does things for me also. You see, I realize SOME men expect to be served, but don't expect to serve. Thankfully, there are some men that expect it to flow both ways.

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Let's note that you've posted a number of negative oneliners in the sub - not arguments, just attacks on people, and still haven't been banned. At the same time, feminists wouldn't just ban you for that, but also arguments.

1 - Do you hence accept that we are meaningfully more tolerant and reasonable than feminists?

You write that:

Look, I’m on everyone’s side(or so I like to think myself), but the hatred has to stop. From one or the other. Why not give the good example and lead with it? I understand it’s hard to be the good person when so many wrongs have come your way, but wronging wrong with wrong isn’t gonna solve the issue we face.

Feminism has been going on for many years, no less hateful and extreme than today.

2 - If we stopped being "hateful" towards feminists, do you think that would stop their decades-long trend?

3 - Perhaps related to 2, how do you see the situation improving if opposition to feminism, including on this subreddit, was lower? Other than the absence of negative statements about feminism here and elsewhere, what would improve in what way?

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I’m also fed up with the patriarchy bullshit that is being thrown around and that somehow every individual man is responsible for the suffering of women.

I’m done with all the stereotyping and being blamed for shit I didn’t do.

Do you accept that feminists have been absolutely key to spreading this bullshit, and it would have been a fringe theory if it wasn't for feminists?

Do you think feminists will stop doing these things if people are nice to them, despite doing this for decades?

How do you explain that moderate, calm, reasonable arguments made without hostility haven't worked so far? Do you think they would if ALL hostility, such as on this subreddit, ceased?

The things you said; the way I interpreted them is that you are convinced most feminists have ill intentions.

Ill intentions for men, yes. That's including all the variants where they are convinced they are doing good, or just don't care either way, but actually work towards a clearly negative outcome for men.