What makes a Beta?

machimus · 2014-02-05T20:40:39+00:00

I think there's definitely an environmental component, i.e., that's just the way a lot of guys were raised, and it's the only way they know. I certainly started out in life believing you should be a perfect textbook gentleman. It was only through years of trial and error that I found another way, pre-TRP.

I'm sure there's also a genetically-driven biology-based component as well. Brain and body chemistry is a huge factor.

[deleted] · 2014-02-06T14:11:01+00:00

It's based on your desire to pursue sex with women and your ability to do so without great personal cost.

Desire + Ability = Alpha

Desire + No Ability = Beta

No Desire (Ability Irrelevant) = Omega

Alphas have the abundance mentality because they have the ability to easily pursue sexual relationships with women, so they have confidence, drive, self-assurance, etc. that betas lack. There's a wide gamut of 'alpha' personality types -- in my view, the most alpha are those who use their abilities sparingly. (I used to be skeptical, but this article convinced me.)

Betas have the scarcity mentality because they lack the ability to easily pursue sexual relationships with women, so they focus on alternative strategies: submission, compromise, attempts to invoke the reciprocal principle (i.e. your stereotypical nice guy or white knight doing nice things for a girl hoping to be rewarded with sex) Due to their mentality they grasp at straws and accept pumped-and-dumped thirtysomethings fresh off the carousel. Due to the human drive to hold at least some self-esteem they warp their belief system around their actions being motivated by things nobler than base desperation.

Omegas don't even care to do that much. They have given up. MGTOW may or may not be omega (depends on their motivation) but usually omegas are your Japanese style 'herbivore men'* or /r9k/ 'kissless virgins' who have no hope at all of ever making it with a woman and console themselves with their analgesics of porn and fantasies.

/* This is classic TRP territory if you look into it. The Japanese economy has created a caste of omega males due to unanchored female hypergamy coupled with SMV delusions identical to that of western women -- the average women there feel they are such fantastic catches that they deserve men with great jobs and high income, even though they do nothing to deserve such a man, and so what would be your average beta males in a good economy have suddenly become hundreds of thousands of omega males in a terrible one.

BruceIsTheBatman · 2014-02-05T22:08:23+00:00

You can be successful at nearly everything you tackle and still act beta around women. Happens a lot.

harkrank · 2014-02-06T14:17:28+00:00

All men and all males of all species are born alpha. The environment is what creates a beta. Without a society there could be no betas as these do not reproduce and their traits would have gone extinct. So betas are raised to be betas. Humans differ from other animals in that we have a great capacity to be influenced in our behavior after birth by our environment, our upbringing. While animals are already born with a set behavior they will have as adults, humans do not. That's why we are so adaptable and can succeed in all different environments on our planet. But this also makes us vulnerable to being raised to be maladapted to our environment.

It is all conditioning. The male child that goes on to become a beta will be since early childhood stopped all times when he tries to exercise his will and he will be subconsciously fearful of doing that. If the parents have treated him like a being of low status he will not doubt this role. A child is defenseless against conditioning because he cannot tell truth from lies. School strongly reaffirms the roles of beta and alpha, because people in a group will make out a hierarchy and as soon as you've been placed on a level in the status ladder you will stay there unless extraordinary things happen. The child will of course try his best to move up this ladder, but will be met by the joint effort of the group to keep him in his place. Betas will do their best to hinder each other from climbing, because they are trying to protect their own position.

Even the low status man of the past didn't have the beta attitude we see in many men today. He certainly would never put a woman on a pedestal. Alphas were as well given less room since other men were close to his level.

The modern beta man subconsciously sees himself as a being of no value, so he believes the only way he can bring value to another person is by giving things.

Here are the factors I believe are responsible for creating the modern beta man:

Isolation of families. People started living in the "nuclear" family model. With great specialization of the workforce, urbanization and mass production people were not so dependent on others in their lives. People moved around more and stayed anonymous in the cities. A man only needed his skill to make a living, while in the past he made a living from fitting in in the rural society he lived. So when these families had children, the parents could and did chose to separate the child's reality from the adult world. And thus children couldn't see for themselves and realize truths about how relationships work or how adults behave towards each other. They would then believe what their parents told them, which of course was never the truth.
Schooling. School is a prison for children and therefore the hierarchy becomes all that matters. In school there is nothing else you can do to improve your well-being than trying to get as far up on the hierarchical ladder as you can. In freedom you can seek out other peers or be by yourself and nobody would judge you. In school you stay with the same people for years and if you enter in a low status role you will stay there because it is a zero-sum game for everybody involved. Children are formed to their adult personalities during these years, and a low status child will accept this role and take it for granted. So will a high status child and he will be better prepared to succeed. To put it more vulgar, the beta was a bitch to his mom and dad at home and a bitch to the teachers and bullies at school, and you ask why he's acting like a bitch now that he's grown? I also want to point to how exponential this effect is when generations go through schooling and raise their kids with this prison mentality.

Schooling also affects women a great deal when both sexes go to school together. Women will assume that all men they meet are either low-status or high-status, since this is how the boys were in school. In nature all males are of higher status than the female. A woman who would only start interacting with men when she is grown would place all men as higher status since they are more capable in all aspects of life.

Media. I guess this speaks for itself, but this wide scale of media manipulation we have today would not be possible without the two factors above.

AdmiralVonJackass · 2014-02-05T20:42:55+00:00

Biologically based social phenomenon in which an organism realized it has failed in its designed purpose and steps aside to allow dominant victors to claim females and resources.

Them betas are the gift that keeps on giving to everyone but themselves. One is getting my coffee as we speak.

JonnieCage · 2014-02-05T22:56:51+00:00

In the dating sense, in my opinion a beta is someone who is desperate for validation

Title	What makes a Beta?
Author	meowlolcats
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Date	February 5, 2014 8:01 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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