Glenn Reynolds: Draft women? Why not?

McFeely_Smackup · 2022-05-16T16:53:42+00:00

the fundamental misunderstanding that people almost always have when discussing Female Draft is that it means women in combat, and it factually does not.

the vast majority of wartime roles are non-combat support positions. 4 women could be drafted for every man, and never have a women exposed to combat.

This has ALWAYS been the case, and yet "women can't serve in combat" has been the "wink-wink" justification for not subjecting women to the draft like men are. it's a lie, it's always been a lie, and we need to stop letting people get away with it.

Bonus is that now women CAN serve in combat...and we still exempt women from draft registration.

Neat_Zookeepergame99 · 2022-05-16T21:46:44+00:00

How about no draft?

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-05-16T10:26:13+00:00

That's from 2015 and this past year we almost got draft equality before the Supreme Court. We need to continue our efforts.

throw1954away · 2022-05-16T18:35:14+00:00

I liked Obama's quote here:

“I think that if women are registered for service — not necessarily in combat roles, and I don't agree with the draft — I think it will help to send a message to my two daughters that they've got obligations to this great country as well as boys do."

The wars of today and tomorrow aren't usually going to be fought in trenches where brute strength guarantees a victory. Increasingly, we'll be seeing cyberwarfare and economic duels. You don't need a stereotypical male build to contribute massively to war efforts in these areas. By excluding women, we are excluding many individuals who could contribute considerably to cyberwarfare. Expecting to win only on the basis of strong men is a position that deserves to be defeated.

If we don't include women, we should just get rid of the draft. This isn't so much of a men's rights issue as a tactics, logic, and rationality argument. If a war requires brute strength, then we can design the physical requirements accordingly as the draft progresses. If not, then I want the best hackers whether they're male, female, intersex, or nonbinary.

3DemocracyActivist · 2022-05-16T22:18:11+00:00

Part 1 of comment

Not drafting men or women, will help everyone's equality, including mens, but drafting women (given the regulations, standards and laws of the USA military other than draft) will not bring men equality, and it will not improve men's rights either, unless all of the laws and regulations of the military are completely equalised at the exact same time as draft equalisation.

There is two sides to being a troop. One side of being a troop is being put in a position of submission, because they are given orders. However there is another side to being a troop, one that shouldn't be overlooked while having this discussion, and that is being put in a position of authority, they are ordered to dominate, what the government calls "terrorists" and they are given the authority to use physical force in order to do so.

A male cop, in England for example, has less power than a female cop in England, because the law of England is biased against men, men have less rights than women, men live under a government that discriminates against them in cruel, misandrist ways. A female cop is therefore automatically in a position of higher authority, than a male cop, because she has rights that a male cop lacks, because all females in England, have rights that males lack, and based on the rights that the government implements, all women in England have more power, than men in England, because the law that the police are enforcing, is misandrist law, not equality law. There is a connection between the role / power of a cop and a prison guard, they are all part of the government ordered team, that is given authority to use physical force. A female prison guard has more power than a male prison guard, because the government gives female prison guards the authority to lay their hands on / search male prisoners and female prisoners, but gives male guards the authority to only lay their hands on / search male prisoners, meaning male prison guards lack 50% of the power that a female prison guard has. A man who commits any crime, wether it is something serious like murder, or something much less serious like theft, has his personal space legally violated by female prison guards, but female prisoners, even those who commit evil acts such as torturing children (including male children, which I think is relevant to point out given the context) to death, are deemed by government orders, as being above the touch of a male guard, the personal space of a woman who tortures a child to death, is given value by misandrist law, simply on the basis of her being female, value that male personal space is not given, by the government / the authority class / the misandrists in power.

If the law of England gave men and women identical rights, laws and punishments, if the law of England gave male and female prisoners equal rights, if cross gender searching was banned on male and female prisoners, (instead of just for female prisoners)

https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2013/04/04/policy-allowing-cross-gender-searches-in-prisons-not-unlawful-says-high-court/

and the judges were not ordered by government to discriminate against men,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1311004/amp/Judges-ordered-mercy-women-criminals-deciding-sentences.html

then a female cop would have equal power, to a male cop. A male would have equal power to female.

(To be continued in my reply to myself)

proteios1 · 2022-05-16T15:49:50+00:00

i am against women in the military (at leasat fighting roles) at all. I do not think mens rights should be fixated on exact equality. But instead recognizing the uniqueness of men and women and advancing those unique qualities that make us who we are rather than doing a mirror image of feminism and make everyone exactly equal in all ways.

_i_used_to_be_nice_ · 2022-06-30T05:02:07+00:00

You’ve made it perfectly clear that you despise women, or anyone female in a position of power above you. You’ve made it clear that you don’t think it’s “fair” that women are allowed to lead. You’ve made it clear that you were the leader who won’t allow a woman to pee in the field and also won’t let them use the latrines, and I’d bet you got in the way of getting the latrine replenished more than a time or two. You’re the same kind of asshole the men complain about.

Title	Glenn Reynolds: Draft women? Why not?
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Date	May 16, 2022 8:04 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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