National Coalition for Men

fndo84 · 2022-08-23T09:32:24+00:00

In the same manner a real rape destroys the life of a person, a false rape accusation also destroys the life of the victim. The difference is that rape has an institutionalized punishment in the form of laws and prison, as false accusations have no legal consequences for the perpetrator (and it doesn't even have big social consequences if the perpetrator of a false accusation happens to be a woman).

If the state is failing men who have their lives destroyed by not criminalizing and punishing their aggressors, this kind of nonprofit organizations can, at least, push this important issue into the light and call for the recognition of the aggressors and maybe in the future this will be an important contribution for social change in which this aggressions that destroy the life of men are treated by the state and the law in the same way they treat other crimes.

alterumnonlaedere · 2022-08-23T06:41:00+00:00

From memory I recall that the National Coalition For Men Carolinas chapter was quite vocal about the Duke lacrosse case at the time.

The Duke lacrosse case was a widely reported 2006 criminal case in Durham, North Carolina, United States in which three members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team were falsely accused of rape. The three students were David Evans, Collin Finnerty, and Reade Seligmann. The accuser was Crystal Mangum, a student at North Carolina Central University who worked as a stripper and dancer. The rape was alleged to have occurred at a party hosted by the lacrosse team, held at the Durham residence of two of the team's captains on March 13, 2006. The case's resolution sparked public discussion of racism, sexual violence, media bias, and due process on campuses, and ultimately led to the resignation, disbarment, and brief imprisonment of the lead prosecutor, Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong.

On April 11, 2007, North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper dropped all charges, declaring the three lacrosse players "innocent" and victims of a "tragic rush to accuse". Nifong, who was labeled a "rogue prosecutor" by Cooper, withdrew from the case in January 2007 after the North Carolina State Bar filed ethics charges against him. In June 2007, Nifong was disbarred for "dishonesty, fraud, deceit and misrepresentation", making him the first prosecutor in North Carolina disbarred for trial conduct. Nifong served one day in jail for lying about sharing DNA tests (criminal contempt); the lab director said it was a misunderstanding and Nifong claimed it was due to weak memory. Mangum continued to insist she was sexually assaulted that night. She faced no charges.

The only other university related case I recall being discussed by the National Coalition For Men was "A Rape on Campus".

"A Rape on Campus" is a retracted, defamatory Rolling Stone magazine article written by Sabrina Erdely and originally published on November 19, 2014, that describes a purported group sexual assault at the University of Virginia (UVA) in Charlottesville, Virginia. Rolling Stone retracted the story in its entirety on April 5, 2015. The article claimed that a UVA student—"Jackie"—had been taken to a party hosted by UVA's Phi Kappa Psi fraternity by a fellow student. At the party, Jackie alleged in the article, her date led her to a bedroom where she was gang raped by several fraternity members as part of a fraternity initiation ritual.

Jackie's account generated much media attention, and UVA President Teresa Sullivan suspended all fraternities. After other journalists investigated the article's claims and found significant discrepancies, Rolling Stone issued multiple apologies for the story. It has since been reported that Jackie may have invented portions of the story in an unsuccessful attempt to win the affections of a fellow student in whom she had a romantic interest. In a deposition given in 2016, Jackie stated that she believed her story at the time.

On January 12, 2015, Charlottesville Police officials told UVA that an investigation had failed to find any evidence confirming the events in the Rolling Stone article. UVA President Teresa Sullivan acknowledged that the story was discredited. Charlottesville Police officially suspended their four-month investigation on March 23, 2015, based on lack of credible evidence. The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism audited the editorial processes that culminated in the article being published. On April 5, 2015, Rolling Stone retracted the article and published the independent report on the publication's history.

I don't see this as the National Coalition For Men "outing" anyone, It's just their commentary on the same high profile false accusation cases being discussed in society and the media at the time.

genkernels · 2022-08-23T09:08:26+00:00

Crouch may have done something like that with NCFMC -- though I haven't been able to find any archive of this, but the NCFM website website itself that you know of probably wasn't involved.

Elam (AVfM, not NCFM-related) did do this as part of register-her, though I'm not sure if that wasn't just a parody of the many feminist attempts make a list rather than something actually serious.

Given the time of the article that refers to NCFM, and the fact that I can't find it (google can't find it, and archive.org won't load), I suspect that it was just a link to register-her on the NCFMC website and that the NCFM itself didn't actually do this (being a lawyer's organization, I couldn't imagine that being actually run by them) -- though I certainly won't rule out an outright fabrication of NCFM's involvement.

Starforce2005 · 2022-08-23T09:47:05+00:00

These false accuser never count as perjury for their false testimonies.

M_Salvatar · 2022-08-23T15:23:23+00:00

They're not wrong, in fact this should be a full on trend. Including statements made, and any other information (on what the false accusers believe in). This should very clearly illustrate who they are, what they do and why they do it. A scientific solution to said problem can then be vigorously administered.

They are absolutely right.

griii2 · 2022-08-23T17:08:25+00:00

There is this term "credibly accused". Talk about presumption of innocence.

Title	National Coalition for Men
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