Men crisis, possible solution.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-11-08T17:42:55+00:00

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MachiNarci · 2022-11-08T18:00:01+00:00

Unfortunately, the practice receives lots of unnecessary pushback.

Just look at this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/virgin/comments/xzvzx0/arrange_marriage_experiences/

A lot of people don’t like the fact that international dating can serve as a cheat code for an average American to access a high-SMV woman. Then they’ll laugh and say “ha ha, can’t wait for her to get citizenship and leave your ass!” But they forget 2 things.

International marriages, as essentially a subset of arranged marriages, have a lower divorce rate than western marriages.
Dating abroad doesn’t necessarily entail marrying a foreigner. There’s still the practice of sex tourism, where as a westerner, you can use your status to participate in foreign sexual marketplaces with no net loss.

There’s so much denial.

-“As a woman with roots in [insert poor country in question], we aren’t as submissive and traditional as you think! We’d kick a Neckbeard’ ass!”

This argument confuses me the most, since it’s objectively true that poorer countries are more traditional and conservative. Since when are Asia, Africa, and South America hotbeds of feminism?

-“Hah, you think women from third world countries want you? If you’re a loser back home, you’ll be a loser abroad!”

It takes 0 seconds to change your location on tinder and notice that every non-western countries gives you access to far more women, beautiful ones at that. Literally change your location to Manila right now, and watch as you get overwhelmed by the matches.

-“As an avid watcher of 90-day fiancé, I know that men like you will get scammed and divorced when they get citizenship!”

Again. Even though foreign marriages are understudied, the existing reputable research shows that they have lower divorce rates. Arranged marriages, which are usually less informal arranged marriages, have even lesser divorce rates.

This is what they always say. They HATE how international dating gives mediocre men a cheat code to accessing hot women, so they cope in all sorts of ways to disparage the practice.

But what happens when Bluepillers realize the practice can actually work out?

They start tackling it from an angle of “exploitation,” to the point where feminists have started calling for mail order brides to be considered a form of human trafficking. Just look at Sweden. Women started surpassing men in college representation, and refused to date down. In response, Swedish men created an all new Thai subculture through the sheer extent they imported mail order brides. Now, feminists are trying to get the industry shut down.

But I agree with you. As long as men aren’t stupid enough to pursue foreigners without vetting their partners or falling for scams, international marriage is the future.

Novadina · 2022-11-08T18:00:29+00:00

But if you move to some country where $50k is top income, you won’t be able to make $50k there… because if that was so easy the locals would already be doing it. And how exactly do you get a visa to move to another country??

Even if you have a remote job they usually won’t let you move to some other country because of tax reasons, and again, you couldn’t really get a visa anyway unless you have a job offer in that country...

If you are suggesting just traveling and getting prostitutes in other countries, and saying they are cheaper, so someone making $50k can easily afford it, then just say that. It’s not really clear what you are suggesting.

HTML_Novice · 2022-11-08T17:38:31+00:00

I see going to poor countries and dating their women as kind of pathetic

athlete2biz · 2022-11-08T17:36:40+00:00

I you have to go international to find a girl, you are a failure.

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maildominated · 2022-11-08T18:20:27+00:00

(We are not all living in the US. The US is not the most successful country in the world, unless "successful" somehow has nothing to do with any of the metrics used in rankings of best countries or countries with highest quality of life.)

Men are not in crisis. Some men are. The one's who are a net loss for a woman to be in a relationship with over being single. Once men aren't needed anymore for financial stability and the woman is not yet old enough to consider family building, a man really needs to contribute to her life in some meaningful way and without subtracting too much, in order to be worthwhile.
Your solution turns back time to a scenario where women are again financially dependent on a man. You look for women who need a man that is able to contribute in a meaningful way to her life just by living in a first world country with an average salary. She still doesn't regard you as a desirable mate for anything else, but this is enough to consider you. That's a sad but fine solution. Most of humanities history worked like that.
But be aware that your equal desirability (ugly/rich vs beautiful/poor) might change rapidly once she moves to your country and has the ability to come to a level of self-sustainability that doesn't require you anymore. Her desirability increases and she will no longer regard you as an equally desirable partner. Other men, more desirable than you will take an interest in her and you have nothing to fight with.
If i were you, i'd take the L and go for an equally undesirable woman who will have a higher chance of staying with you, building love and a family.
Also, if you really care about MEN, then you are part of the problem, taking a beautiful woman out of some other country, leaving an attractive man there without his equally attractive woman. It's a zero sum game.

Title	Men crisis, possible solution.
Author	akius0
Upvotes	0
Comments	30
Date	November 8, 2022 5:26 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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