Women under 32 likely to receive pay nearly equal to their male counterparts, with earnings at 93 percent of men.

rogersmith25 · 2013-12-11T21:18:58+00:00

"When we see our male CEOs taking off a day to care for a sick child, then we will be working in a more gender-equal workplace - and a more gender-equal world." -Pamela Smock, a sociology professor at the University of Michigan.

Totally ridiculous. If you have two parents and one is a CEO making millions and the other is... well... pretty much anything else, it makes no sense to have the person whose time is worth thousands per hour take care of a sick child instead of someone whose time is worth dozens per hour. If it was a female CEO and a male, say, writer, anyone sane would expect the writer to take care of the child.

This is not inequality in the present world.

What sociologists like Smock are willing to completely ignore is the idea that in general, women are more likely to prefer the less-stressful balanced lifestyle which includes more time with the children than men... and those women prefer their men to be more focused on work in order to find him successful and thus attractive!

Who knows... maybe men and women both want balanced lifestyles, but men know that they will only be able to attract a mate to have children is to work more and earn more.

saint2e · 2013-12-11T16:38:34+00:00

Isn't it the case that women without kids are earning more than their male counterparts?

CornyHoosier · 2013-12-11T20:13:57+00:00

Honestly, I'm willing to bet most women get paid more than men up until their late-twenties or early-thirties. Bar staff, restaurant staff, customer service and anything related to showing some skill .... women absolutely trump men.

rogersmith25 · 2013-12-11T21:04:52+00:00

"Young American women are increasingly likely to receive pay nearly equal to their male counterparts, with earnings at 93 percent of men, a new study finds. Still, those women remain as pessimistic as their mothers and grandmothers regarding gender equality."

Well maybe that's because people like the President continue to make the false claim that "women (are) paid 77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men" for political gain.

2013-12-11T14:40:40+00:00

That widening gap is due in part to the many women who take time off or reduce their hours to start families. Other factors cited in the report are gender stereotyping, discrimination, weaker professional networks and women's hesitancy to aggressively push for raises and promotions, which together may account for 20 to 40 percent of the pay gap.

IMO any gap it is mostly related to women taking time off to start families. If you are not there to work, you ain't getting paid and promoted. Period. Also, if you don't ask for a raise who's fault is it. Just because you are female doesn't mean you automatically get a raise. Entitlement complex?

The comments about the gender stereo-typing and discrimination is just pandering to feminists.

Honestly, I am happy that women are getting paid equally, I just can't stand the constant dialogue that they are not. It is bullshit and propaganda.

EDIT: Link to the study

Sasha_ · 2013-12-11T16:07:55+00:00

They won't be happy until it's >100%.

2013-12-13T16:13:42+00:00

This article confirms what we all knew. Most men, even for those first few jobs, busted our asses for barely minimum wage while the secretary, more than likely a woman, gets paid 50% more for sitting at a desk. A couple of years ago I got in a debate with a female friend about this. I said lets go to 2 malls and see who can get a regular, get by, in between job first. I expressed THESE are the jobs that matter. I could care less about someone bitching over a few thousand out of many, I care more about the people who live pay check to pay check.
We went to 1 mall, not 2. We both hit up the same stores. All I got was applications in my hand and managed to weasel into one scheduled interview. She got a job offer at 3 of her first 5 or 6 stores and then quit. My point to all this and this article, I think women know for a fact they can out earn men early, but they don't like the fact their beauty, cuteness wears off in life and you're left with pure work ethic (this is my personal philosophy on why men become bosses and such, we don't get to skate as much in our youth and develop a better work ethic, which stats show in many outlets that men put in more hours on avg.)

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