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Racist or Feminist? You decide! by Typhon Blue

kevinwayne

August 5, 2013

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Title	Racist or Feminist? You decide! by Typhon Blue
Author	kevinwayne
Upvotes	43
Comments	23
Date	August 5, 2013 8:04 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1jrfqh/racist_or_feminist_you_decide_by_typhon_blue/
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[–]kurokabau 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]theskepticalidealist -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link

I think in terms of the most violent rape men would come out on top just like in domestic violence the point is that these are only a small number of women affected by this and so isn't good enough or acceptable to feminists. They want to maximise female victims while maximising male abusers, to do that they expand and water down what domestic violence and rape is. Success! Right?

Only problem with that is they cannot accept that by broadening the definitions it makes a lot of women perpetrators and a lot of men victims. The problem is they have to justify the wide definitions they want to apply only to women. If they define rape and domestic violence to only include men as perpetrators they wouldn't be able to make the claims about "rape culture" that they do and that is why even though they could get the ratio of female victims to male perpetrators that they want ... it wouldn't give them what they want

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[–]theskepticalidealist -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Men hit harder in domestic violence, that's something that seems pretty uncontroversial in mens rights circles, so to me it stands to reason that its the same for rape. I would bet the violent stranger rapes are mostly male perpetrators, not women jumping a man in a dark ally and putting a knife to his throat. (Unless you have any specific studies to the contrary)

The problem is as I said that if you only define rape this way then their male perpetrators are few and far between and the victims few in number. This is unacceptable for feminists. Feminists want it so rape is so watered down that so many women are victims they can be victims and not even know it and should probably consult an informed feminist to be sure, while men they need to be presented as so likely to rape we have to keep reminding them not to in case they forget. Now rape shouldn't just be defined as the most violent either, but that is how you would probably get such a strong ratio of male perpetrators vs female ones

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[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"So wheres the data on that? "

That's the point; the data is not collected because of the collection parameters. The most common standard for crime reporting at the national elvel in the US is "Summary Uniform Crime Reporting" under which only the primary crime in and incident is reported, eg. a murder for hire will only be reported as a murder and only the person committing the actual murder will be reported, while the act of commissioning the murder will be left uncounted.

The State of Washington uses both methods. This publication explains this in detail: http://www.waspc.org/index.php?c=Crime%20Statistics "Also if we go back to rape, are you claiming women rape men by "proxy? "

Show me anything I said that could possibly support that question.

However women do inded use proxy violence to rape men. James Landrith syas his rapist threatened both to accuse him of rape (!) and also to out him as gay, during an anti-gay witchhunt in the Marine Coprs, as a means to subdue him.

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