Why don’t they change instead?

Marc_kk · 2018-02-06T15:11:36+00:00

Its not fair, but it’s the way society a a whole is moving. The liberal or progressive viewpoint is consistent with many ‘feminine values’. They don’t need to change if the society shares their ideals.

armaadi · 2018-02-06T15:58:47+00:00

Because if they advocated for them to change, they would have to admit their shortcomings. If they believe they are infallible, then they are already perfect and don't have to change; the world should change to be as perfect as them.

The idea that it's not a woman's fault that she didn't have the life she wants is an attractive idea. It's the same attractive idea that other groups have that tell their members it's not their fault, it's "x" group's fault.

If men were to just be more like women, the world would be much better! If men had the same emotional range as women, we'd be able to understand each other better! Basically, if men were more like women, women would be able to do so much more!

It's hard to change yourself. It's painful to realize you are the problem, not the world. So feminism, in it's effort to keep women from pain and effort, tells women they are fine the way they are and it's the world that needs to change. They don't realize how terrible of an idea that is.

Meyright · 2018-02-06T17:14:41+00:00

Why are we bad for wanting to get laid?

We're not, stop saying those things to yourself!

I wonder why we are forced to feminize instead of women being forced to take on masculinizing rolls.

We're not! Masculinity is good and healthy. Being competitive is good, being a leader is good.

I get your point, but we need to stop using their talking points

DevoutSubculture · 2018-02-06T17:35:35+00:00

Feminists did try this, you rarely ever hear about Feminists who criticized women because their ideas were never popularized. You never hear about "Female Chauvinist Pigs" anymore or freeing women from the cultural institutions they profit from. That's not how feminism works, it's a supremacy movement and it can't self-reflect or self-criticize. Because most of the 'culture wars' is dominated by tradcons vs. feminists and neither group wants women to be masculine or responsible - this is what happens.

TRichard3814 · 2018-02-07T03:37:30+00:00

Of course boys should be given barbies as well as GI Joes I hear it all the time. What I don't hear is that girls should be give GI Joes as well as barbies.

Let me tell you my kid will get GI Joes (or whatever it is) and if he doesn't like them he can try barbies because I honestly couldn't give a fuck. However because of data and research and you know genetics and shit he will likely like the GI joe

Title	Why don’t they change instead?
Author	c_megalodon25
Upvotes	7
Comments	8
Date	February 6, 2018 12:51 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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