There's a lot of truth in blackpill, but hateful incels are hurting egalitarianism

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pearl_harbour1941 · 2023-03-22T14:40:27+00:00

Downvoted, for these reasons:

1) you have a go at "hateful incels", but don't define who you are talking about, making any discussion about "them" fruitless.

2) You have a go at Andrew Tate. I'm not a fan of him, I've never watched any content by him at all. But he exists because there is a vacuum in young men's lives - men are craving ~~strong~~ any role models. You seem to have missed that point.

3) You invoke scientism as the solution: "Scientific studies with large sample sizes and hard empirical data will win the day eventually." This has already been shown to be false. Fiebert showed using a sample size of 450,000+ across 4 decades and almost all continents that women are as violent as men in their personal relationships. Straus showed how and why that research was swept under the rug.

4) Too long, mostly word salad.

bottleblank · 2023-03-22T17:18:11+00:00

But if I bring up even a hint of my struggles concerning autism or my race (especially since COVID), all I hear is "man, you sound like an incel, are you a white nationalist Trump supporter too?" I find this very funny because I'm not even white, for starters.

You say that as if anybody genuinely cared before people started talking about being "pilled" or being "incels" and revoked their empathy because now all of a sudden it's associated with violence.

People didn't care 20 years ago either.

Almost 40 years ago, the movie "Revenge of the Nerds" came out. A movie about the experiences of a group of offensively socially awkward, inexperienced, naïve, maladjusted, hormonal teenage "nerds", as they go to college, which shows them about as sympathetically as you'd expect. Which is to say "not at all".

nyarlathotep999 · 2023-03-22T10:43:10+00:00

The assumption that the world is just and fair is easily disproved. The just world theory is a bunch of bs. There is only power, and the extent to which the world is "just" is only proportional to the degree in which people with power act according to principles of justice and fairness, and the degree to which people in general balance self interest with altruism.

However, to assume that the world is just is denying reality, both of the state of the world today as well as the truth of the human condition. People are by nature selfish, and the egoistic world view of western culture in general tends to encourage that nature more than discourage it, however it also encourages individualism which acts as somewhat of a check on the powerful. The collectivism of Eastern culture in general tends to encourage altruism- however it also encourages submission to authority, which makes those societies prone to manipulation by the powerful.

It is important to note that by the terms "justice" and "fairness" that I am not talking about social justice activism which is poorly informed and hypocritical at best. Rather I am taking these terms in the philosophical and ethical sense.

chukostufr · 2023-03-22T12:45:51+00:00

Sorry you don’t agree with the revelations the blackpill brings. It’s uncomfortable truth but it’s truth nonetheless and it’s not yours to police

mrkpxx · 2023-03-22T11:08:35+00:00

You shouldn't call humans toxique.

Ok_Cryptographer6856 · 2023-03-22T10:24:11+00:00

Black pill is garbo I think is genuinely for incels. Red pill is pretty good. What is your issue with Tate I personally like him outside the allegations that he is facing.

JoeSmith1907 · 2023-03-22T15:13:09+00:00

I'm not sure what you think "incel" or "conspiracy theory" mean, but I don't think they mean what you think they mean.

ABBucsfan · 2023-03-22T16:21:39+00:00

It's more than just face, height, race.. can definitely play a part. I cant personally comment that much in my face, but tick off the other boxes. I've attracted people, but I also have some social anxiety especially with crushes.. anyways I digress.

Science is finding out even things like personality has a lot to do with genetics.. and even things like being overweight can be definitely linked to genetica and some have a lot more to overcome (but it course for those its easy from they will just claim others are lazy or can't put down the fork). Even grit, work ethic, determination is partially genetic they are finding.. so yeah some people can be spoiled and lazy and such...don't want to let them off the hook..hold them accountable by all means. It's just we have less control over things as we want to admit is all

Title	There's a lot of truth in blackpill, but hateful incels are hurting egalitarianism
Author	Diligent_Divide_4978
Upvotes	0
Comments	14
Date	March 22, 2023 10:11 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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