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UK: 'I'm not a bigot, I just believe children need a father figure': Sperm donor wins legal battle after clinic used his sperm to father NINE children with gay parents and single mothers against his wishes

furchfur

September 27, 2020
55 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776409/Donor-wins-legal-battle-clinic-used-sperm-father-13-children.html
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Title UK: 'I'm not a bigot, I just believe children need a father figure': Sperm donor wins legal battle after clinic used his sperm to father NINE children with gay parents and single mothers against his wishes
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furchfur

Upvotes 55
Comments 28
Date September 27, 2020 8:40 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/j0nsrk/uk_im_not_a_bigot_i_just_believe_children_need_a/
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Comments

[–]Astro_Donut 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Tough battle, on one half I believe they should honor the mans wishes, and on the other I believe if you give your sperm as a donor, Im not sure if you have a say in who it goes to, it's like giving a kidney for donation, can you tell the doctors to not give it to someone who drinks sodas because you want the kidney to stay healthy? There's no clear right or wrong as far as I can tell. Before this becomes a problem, no, I do not dislike gay people or single mothers because I can understand the mans views, Several family members and friends of mine are gay, and I have a single mother. I know this doesn't seem like needed information but I know how Reddit works, even slightly sympathize with someone with unsavory views and you're satan. Thanks for reading.

[–]RonanFalk 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can absolutely dictate who your organs go to when you're alive. That's how you can donate an organ to a family member and not someone else ahead in the queue. As for sperm, it's yours to donate or not. If you're not allowed to dictate terms, or if the clinic breaks the confidentiality, people who are considering a donation may decide not to. In some places, sperm banks must rely on donations from abroad because no one would donate anymore. Finally, changing the agreement and breaking confidentiality by law after the donation is particularly troubling. It erodes the confidence of citizens in their legal system. If you can't trust the government to keep it's agreement with you, you would handle interactions very differently.

[–]Astro_Donut 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fair, I guess at that point it comes down to if the clinic explicitly agreed to those terms or not, also depending if they mentioned it will go to whoever in some sort of terms paper, which I doubt. Thanks for a good conversation.

[–]MalibuStayZ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you give your sperm as a donor, Im not sure if you have a say in who it goes to

I think donors should have a say in who it goes to, if they want to. But sperm banks should also have the right to reject such donors.

Makes me wonder why they've accepted him. Is there such a shortage of donors?

[–]Astro_Donut 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I read the article, apparently the guy had like, SUPER strong sperm which is a good trait I suppose, and I believe the bank even said they shouldn't have accepted him. So I suppose it falls on them.

[–]davibdowie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah if I was a customer of the spent bank I wouldn't care how strong his sperm are, I don't want to risk a schizo involving me inna legal battle...

[–]Astro_Donut 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did the sperm bank tell them his wishes? If they didn't thats kinda fucked, not because his wishes but because it could screw the customer over.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. All of these women going around saying "kill all men" and "we don't need men" will change their tune when they can't reproduce whenever they want to

[–]Satansleadguitarist 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've never donated and don't plan on it, but I'd it normal for the donor to have a say in where it goes. It seems to me that once you donate your sperm it's pretty much up to them what they do with it.

[–]gogoskiller2 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

This is disgusting and sexist. Don't give sperm then. It's the same as saying single father families aren't families because children need a mother. Disgusting

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair to the man there is a wealth of data that shows us father-less children are more likely to go to jail, less likely to have college degrees, and less likely to work.

[–]brguy35 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's in cases of women who had children by careless sex and are not ready to be parents. Not stable, educated women who are choosing to have children by a donor.

Ignorant cunt.

[–]EvilLothar 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

And that would be correct. Children need to have 2 stable parents, preferably the 2 that created them. It's best for the children scientifically speaking to have both a mother and father.

[–]Satansleadguitarist 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It probably is better for a child to grow up with a loving mother and father but that doesn't mean that a heterosexual couple will be better parents than a homosexual couple. It's more about how they raise the child than the gender of the parents.

[–]EvilLothar 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe that a man is a substitute for a mother, just like a woman isn't a substitute for a father. Sure, the kid probably won't grow up to be a mass murderer, but that doesn't mean it's good for the kid.

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[–]EvilLothar 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean all the science done by the leftist universities in Cali, or the science that says there is no harm in circumcision? Those scientists? Yea.. you do you.

[–]gogoskiller2 -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No.

[–]MerpX2 -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is not how science works.

[–]thatboyyouknewiwere 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no, all evidence suggests that gay parents who adopt actually have better outcomes on average because its almost always an intentional decision and they’re more concerned with being accepting of their child than straight people generally are.

not saying striaght people are inherently bad parents just more likely to repeat what their parents did or have/be pressured into have kids they dont want

[–]InternationalLeg9368 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They do.

[–]Dogrose22 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He clearly is a bigot.

[–]KieranKelsey 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aaaaand this is why we use anonymous sperm donors with contracts signing away legal custody

[–]MerpX2 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao. You don’t want children to grow up without a father? Don’t donate your sperm you fucking idiot.

[–][deleted] 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]gogoskiller2 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine being raised by this retard

[–]-Hetshepsu -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That makes no sense.

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