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I asked pink pillers why they despise men and this is what one of them said

RagnaroFirelord

May 21, 2020
93 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title I asked pink pillers why they despise men and this is what one of them said
Author

RagnaroFirelord

Upvotes 93
Comments 47
Date May 21, 2020 3:11 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gnp4tu/i_asked_pink_pillers_why_they_despise_men_and/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/i-asked-pink-pillers-why-they-despise-men-and-this.1198094
https://theredarchive.com/post/1198094
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Comments

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Revenge..... against dead people, making their ancestors suffer.

[–]RagnaroFirelord28 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah that’s like if we took German people today and blamed them for hitler

[–]Oncefa2 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the case of Japan they've apologized, paid restitutions, and actually built the modern infrastructure of some of the countries they invaded. Korea in particular was essentially built by post war Japan.

They don't just hold a grudge though. They deny that Japan ever apologized or did anything. A fact that eventually pissed off the population of Japan and led to the election of Abe. Who has been controversial around Asia, to say the least.

[–]StingRayFins 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

"Every modern girl is her own religion who spends every day amassing followers and worshipers. She does not demand tithing every Sunday. Instead, she demands all she can get every hour. She spends most of her time looking at herself and expects gifts and sacrifices from everyone else. If she is not obeyed hell will be unleashed upon you. As she have spoken, 'God is a women.'"

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Beautiful quote. Where's it from?

[–]79johnsmith 31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We have known for a while that they are man-haters and there are far worse posts if one has the stomach to dig through that sub.

How is this going to help change their minds or advance men's rights though?

[–]Lethn 33 points34 points35 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's important to understand how they think about various topics and when they go into irate ranting like this it's really helpful because they're pretty much spewing their real thought process to you without realising it. I've caught feminists out many times because I've properly studied even their terminology so I can understand how they view the world compared to everyone else.

[–]RagnaroFirelord13 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm still fairly new to this thing, I wanted to share what I have experienced people say so far.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

  1. The same religions that created goddesses and venerated women as goddesses of the household?

  2. Smartness, humour and creativity are demonstrated by action. So, from your comment, I can only say you don't have any of them. But if you can generalise men, so can they.

  3. Queens have started more wars than kings. Read a less simple history book.

  4. I'm not sure what porn you're referring to, but if it's porn, then I'd think the women in it consented to the act in exchange for money. On the other hand, you get off on boys being raped by teachers or men being tortured by family courts. So, you're a sadistic monster too?

  5. The constant higher expectations and standards for men, the chivalry and gendered laws, the sentencing disparity show that it's men who are being used as objects.

  6. And if we express any discontent, we're labelled misogynists, lose our jobs, livelihoods, and get legal penalties. Wtf is up with that?

Only a fraction of the problems we have to put up with from women.

[–]RagnaroFirelord9 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

Do you mind if I respond to them with this?

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Be my guest!

[–]RagnaroFirelord 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thanks!

[–]Jakeybaby125 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Go for it mate. I'll enjoy their reaction. I want to time how long it takes until you get banned. I'm guessing a minute max until you're either swamped or banned.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They did experiments like this at CERN, Geneva. The response time is 350 ms. And it's inversely proportional to the sub size. /s

[–]RagnaroFirelord 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I replied to them with this comment but they just deleted their original comment

[–]Jakeybaby125 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh right. Did you do it anyway?

[–]RagnaroFirelord 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She deleted it after i sent that comment

[–]Jakeybaby125 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Talk about fragile femininity. Can't stand being questioned.

[–]ThePolarisWarrior 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why we need MRA, a movement to support men and go against these female monsters.

[–]LegendaryEmu1 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So the religion, those men are long dead, you want to hate the ones that continue it, fair cop, but most don't act like their predecessors.

God, the women aren't funny thing, no women can and are funny, but not as much as men are, women comedians are a rarity, as an example. I've never heard anyone say women aren't smart, creative or innovative. Hell, a short time ago there was a fuckin film which was a somewhat dramatized story of how three black women were super helpful to the american space program, was a good movie too, Hidden Figures.

'Assert their superiority because they're insecure assholes' There are guys like that, hell, i've met more than a few, one tried to be my rival in highschool, it was weird because i had no interest in competing with him. But this sounds more like an individual thing rather than an innate trait all men have, likely something from personal experience.

Ooohoohohooo 'men caused all the wars and suffering' FUCKING FALSE. Not too long ago historians even compared that when there were more queens in power in europe, war went up! There have been some awful women in a number of ways, even mother teresa, long hailed(and now a saint) ran a bunch of hospices, where people went to suffer and die because they didn't use modern medicine, while she herself, when she got sick, like a total hypocrite, did.

'they get off on girls being tortured in porn' Um, no? Not sure what porn they watch, but most porn is not violent or...torture, thats a specific fetish, pretty sure.

'the constant harrassment and disrespect women receive on a daily basis' Sure, perpetrated by...you guessed it....not all men. Its certainly a problem in some places, and the people who do it should be...we'll say 'encouraged', to stop. But it isn't all women, and its not all men, so its a gross generalization, i have no doubt this person also thinks women are harassed and abused more online...when its the opposite, men receive the most hate, individually, and collectively, because of people like her.

'if we express any discontent we get death threats'. So does everyone. I have, a couple people i know have. there are always shitheads, including if you're women, Erin Prizzey is a great example, wanted to open up her shelter to include men, death threats, bomb threats, dog was killed....by feminists.

'Thats only the fraction of the problem' No it isn't, thats all you could make up.

In reality, this person, and by in large, most people who think that way, just want a scapegoat, feminism and patriarchy theory have given them just that, "Nothing bad in your life is your fault, you're aweseome! Its all the PATRIARCHY and MEN keeping you down!"

A woman: "I disagree."

"REEEEE DIE YOU PATRIARCHY APOLOGIST!"

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]LegendaryEmu1 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah i know, but for some reason we live in the days of phrases, so there you go. And if you dare bring up statistics, man, you get a lot of hate for hard numbers, not here, but generally.

[–]MBV-09-C 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone definitely forgot Wu Zetian, Indira Gandhi, and Mary Tudor existed.

[–]Lethn 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would so love to see given how supposedly anti-religious these pink pillers are whether or not they'd cuck themselves for Islam because they're often full of shit in that area.

[–]Jakeybaby125 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Those people clearly didn't have a good male role model growing up.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

May be did. But they repelled them away.

[–]Jakeybaby125 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With the help of big daddy government of course.

[–]Mythandros 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That right there is proof that the idiots on that sub have a single digit IQ.

[–]genericteenagename 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Generalizing an entire gender based on actions other members of that gender committed has a term. I can’t think of what it is, but I know it has a term. O right its called sexism!

[–]perplexedm 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of these people suffer from kind of feminist cult brainwashing induced nihilistic depression, for eg.: https://archive.is/YvCRn

[–]TheStumblingWolf 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like she's never actually met a man, and is just going off of what others have told her about men...

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes the lazy collective guilt.

​

Feminism is a religion, relying on a secular form of original sin, but only for men.

[–]Dim6969696969420 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism isn't a religion it is a cult

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only difference is marketing.

[–]frommany-one 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

That comment is terribly ignorant...

That being said, this kind of has the same vibes as those alternative left/right (pick your poison) media personalities going to a rally/protest/etc that they disagree with and asking the participants very specific difficult questions with the express purpose of picking out the dumbest ones for a compilation to make the "other side" look like fools.

Feels a little trolly wording the question in such an antagonistic way. I think you knew the type of response you were looking to take a screen shot of. Doesn't dismiss the stupidity of the response. But it isn't productive either.

[–]comehitherhitler 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Reposting without the disallowed link to that subreddit:


That being said, this kind of has the same vibes as those alternative left/right (pick your poison) media personalities going to a rally/protest/etc that they disagree with and asking the participants very specific difficult questions

In this analogy that question is "why don't you like [group you oppose]?" A real gotcha question there.

The whole point of that forum is explicitly ironic-not-ironic misandry. Read the sticky post on ppf. Asking them why they hate men is not a very specific difficult question, nor is it trolly. You might feel bad for them because they can't articulate a rational answer, but that doesn't mean the question was unfair.

[–]frommany-one 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

The purpose of that analogy was to point out the "cherry picking" of the dumb responses specifically to represent the whole.

What I'm getting at is that if this movement wants to continue to reinforce it's legitimacy, it would be better served by rising above these "gotcha, look how dumb they are" methods that only resonate with those here.

Edit: To be clear I'm not suggesting that the rest of the responses were not also just as dumb. I haven't seen the original post... I'm just saying that, what do we gain from this? There isnt any changing of minds happening here, no back and forth duologue between differing minds, etc. all we have is preaching to the choir.

[–]comehitherhitler 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's not a "dumb" response in the context of the community in question. That's a smart response for them. They usually just say something snarky like "hating men is my fetish don't kink shame me" because they know how shockingly vile their usual shtick is to outsiders. Go visit PPF or AskPPF. Tell me that's a "dumb" comment for them.

No, friend, I'm afraid they really are "like that".

[–]frommany-one 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That may be the case. Maybe the rest of the comments were just as dumb. I haven't seen the original post...

Sounds like from what you are say this is a pretty well documented and predictable response... and I would agree. I would certainly expect to see responses like the one presented in the screen capture. To go further I think most of the people in this sub would also expect to see that kind of response.

...and that is exactly why this post was unnecessary. We already knew. No minds are being changed here, no dialogue between different minds is occuring, etc. all that's happening is development of animosity.

Staying solution oriented is critical.

[–]comehitherhitler 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No minds are being changed here, no dialogue between different minds is occuring, etc. all that's happening is development of animosity.

You went from thinking it was a cherry-picked answer to thinking it was typical of them. For better or worse at least one mind has been changed. Not everyone is cognizant of everything said or believed by every feminist. You and others reading this post now have a bit more insight into the mind of a PPF type straight from the horse's mouth.

You need to get used to interacting with people whose beliefs are not gained by reason, because you're going to encounter them a lot when dealing with feminists. You are not going to change the mind of someone who irrationally hates you with some great oratory on your shared humanity. Generally, when you engage with them you should be doing so for the benefit of an audience that can actually be swayed. For example, someone casually reading through a men's right forum wondering why it has a problem with feminism. Someone seeing an honest display of what some feminists genuinely believe.

Their animosity exists whether you like it or not, whether you reciprocate it or not. You should know what kinds of things they are saying to support and spread it.

[–]frommany-one -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a big difference between expecting all responses to be dumb and expecting that there will be dumb responses. Read my words carefully.

This is especially true when you ask an antagonistic question that already hints at the writers opinion and level of animosity for their community.

The goal of the original post was to get a response like one pictured and get karma... Not for the writer to gain a deeper insight into their beliefs as they are purporting to. He/she already had their answer they just wanted "someone" to prove it for them so that they could show the world.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone has daddy issues.

[–]Ody_ssey -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That sub is full of frustrated virgins.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

frustrated virgins femcels

FTFY

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not virgins, but definitely women who can't get long term boyfriends to save their lives. Given the amount of virgin bashing they take part in with regards to men I have to wonder if there isn't some major projection going on there and these women are in fact full of shit.

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