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New York Post : Men are showing up to The Wing and women are pissed

whine_and_cheese

December 18, 2019
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https://nypost.com/2019/12/17/men-are-showing-up-to-the-wing-and-women-are-pissed/
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Title New York Post : Men are showing up to The Wing and women are pissed
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whine_and_cheese

Upvotes 249
Comments 63
Date December 18, 2019 6:22 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPass
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Comments

[–]Jmaster570 88 points89 points90 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Holy crap, that read like an onion article. What the fuck.

[–]whine_and_cheese[S] 151 points152 points153 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

“It’s just annoying,” says Caitlin White, a 31-year-old West Hollywood member who sees at least one man working in the space each day. “Why do men need to be there? Why can’t they respect the spirit of the place? Men have to have everything.”

Now flip that around to be a woman wanting to join a males only space and it becomes "heroic" and "brave" and "empowering".

[–]chalkywhite231 79 points80 points81 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

exactly, sexism is only ok when feminists do it.

[–]Doctor_Popeye 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How do they know these are men? Did they ask their gender? Perhaps they have decided to transition and are now women from this point on?

Maybe they should make a sign that says “Women’s Bathroom” and have the whole club meet behind that door there. Then, women and those who don’t identify as women can exist in the cohabitating space aka hallway. I’m not going to presume if you’d need to have equal amount of available space for the male/guest bathroom area. The whole “separate but equal” argument gets tricky.

[–]masterdarthrevan 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I still don't think men should invade a female safe space. But I also don't think women should invade male only spaces. Maybe we should just be mad at the ones who do because we both should respect a (gender specific) space. It's not fair to either side to have private space invaded.

[–]meltedlettuce38 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It isn't fair, but it seems the only way to stop women from doing this shit is to give them a taste of their own medicine. I dont like being an asshole but I will if it means my gender is treated equally.

[+]masterdarthrevan -18 points-17 points-16 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yea but how about we not invade their space. If they invade ours then we say/ do something. We don't need to make us the enemy they already think we are.

[–]meltedlettuce38 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I dont like having to be a dick but sometimes the only way people can get perspective is to have be put in someone else's shoes. It suck that we have to suck but we cant just rollover and take it either.

[+]masterdarthrevan -14 points-13 points-12 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying roll over. Just pick the right battles. But when has giving a woman " a taste of her own medicine" ever worked ? We should condemn them for forcefully entering male only spaces but not do the same to them. We need the better optics, men need to be " better" than those women. Right now this whole gender issue between the sexes is being won by those types of women because they plan their optics.

[–]i-wanna-sex-emi 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Being the "better man" never worked, and becer will. Treat them with the same level of disdain, or you'll never come out on top.

[+]masterdarthrevan -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And that's the way men lose. As bigots

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

lmao, bigots? wtf?

they dont get to have it both ways by the way

they wanted this, they got it

[–]chubbysumo 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the bullshit that NYP spews out weekly. Their publication is garbage along with their editors.

[–]Doctor_Popeye 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree.

I don’t care if people want their own spaces (religions, ethnicities, etc all do it without such issue - if you’re Jewish and you decide to attend a Catholic Church for an event, I’ve never heard of someone stopping them). Personally, I don’t want to be someplace that doesn’t want me. I think, and I can be mistaken, that the culture and politics surrounding this - all the articles with the typical sensationalistic bend - triggers people and avoids the real goal. People want to participate in events/gatherings/life and avoid the trappings and hazards that do exist in places. The answer is somewhere in a nuanced stance where respect and dignity is not diminished out of strict principle and taking pot shots just because someone can isn’t superseding true attempts to facilitate parity, fairness, and social equity.

In other words, the two sides are on a crash course and understanding needs to be paramount - not winning or owning the other side. Until then, I’m probably going to be stuck reading articles like this while shaking my head.

EDIT: One more thing: I mean, really? WTF?

“I think they’re just losers,” she says of the male plus-ones. “Or cucked boyfriends. It’s a legal fluke.”

How does this help your cause when you speak like you’re an internet comment section not to mention apparently prejudging people (isn’t there something about being supposedly liberal connected to open-mindedness, taking in new data/information, acceptance, not using immutable characteristics and preferences as de facto insults?)?

[–]EverybodyKnowWar 105 points106 points107 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

"There’s usually at least one [man] whenever I visit,” says Kaitlin Phillips, 29, a member in New York for the past two years. “It’s bizarre to choose to occupy a space women specifically wanted for themselves. Classic patriarchal entitlement complex.”

Wow. So, if one were to make the inverse comment about a traditionally male-occupied space, say, country clubs for example, how far would that lead balloon fly? Is it "classic matriarchal entitlement" to demand that women have access to those spaces?

[–]Steeped_In_Folly 70 points71 points72 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They honestly believe that the rest of the world is a safe space for men. Like they actually think that.

[+]redditor_aborigine -63 points-62 points-61 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They know the truth.

[–]meltedlettuce38 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Elaborate please

[–]redditor_aborigine -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They know that the world is a level playing-field, not a "safe space" for men.

Just what do you guys think the truth is?

[–]firefly183 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think perhaps your tone was unclear, maybe that's why he asked. I actually thought you meant you were supporting their view point. That in saying they know the truth you were affirming that what they say is the truth. And thinking that's what you meant I wasn't sure if it was sarcasm or not.

Your follow up comment cleared that up though, I was entirely off base, haha.

[–]Speideronreddit 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

There are many "social clubs" that only allow men. It's mentioned in the article. This business grew to be too large to fit the definition of a "social club". There are spaces like this, exclusively for men, but yhis business isn't allowed to be exclusive for women. It seems like the people in the article finds it unfair to not be allowed the same experience.

[–]EverybodyKnowWar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It's pretty straightforward. If you want to be a business, then you cannot discriminate against protected classes. If you want to remain a private club, then you can.

At least, until some activist like Martha Burk wants to force your private club to admit women.

https://www.si.com/golf/2019/07/01/private-golf-clubs-muirfield-augusta-women-discrimination

Which was, ya know, my point.

[–]Speideronreddit 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What defines a private club different than a business?

[–]DestruXion1 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When me and my buddies get together for lunch, that's a social club. If I charged my buddies a membership fee to eat lunch with me and call it "u/DestruXion1's Society" it is now a business.

[–]Speideronreddit -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So all the social clubs that charge fees in that way, like certain golf clubs and gentleman clubs, you would consider them businesses.

Good. Me too.

The law, however, seem to judge it differently, and judges by the size of the business. Smaller social clubs, with higher fees and fewer members than the one in this case, can continue to operate without allowing women.

It seems unreasonable to me that businesses/social clubs don't have a more clear-cut definition in law, like the one you offered.

[–]EverybodyKnowWar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why are you asking a question that you knew the answer to earlier?

This business grew to be too large to fit the definition of a "social club".

--your earlier post

There is a size threshold, and 11,000+ members in seven cities on multiple continents is over it.

[–]Speideronreddit -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Because i wanted someone's definition, to see if their definition matched the law and was reasonable.

Yours didn't match the law.

[–]EverybodyKnowWar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yours didn't match the law.

It matches the law in my state.

"Private club" means a not-for-profit association that (1) has been in active and continuous existence for at least 3 years prior to the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th General Assembly, whether incorporated or not, (2) is the owner, lessee, or occupant of a building or portion thereof used exclusively for club purposes at all times, (3) is operated solely for a recreational, fraternal, social, patriotic, political, benevolent, or athletic purpose, but not for pecuniary gain, and (4) only sells alcoholic beverages incidental to its operation. For purposes of this definition, "private club" means an organization that is managed by a board of directors, executive committee, or similar body chosen by the members at an annual meeting, has established bylaws, a constitution, or both to govern its activities, and has been granted an exemption from the payment of federal income tax as a club under 26 U.S.C. 501.

Seven locations on two continents is not "a building or portion thereof".

This is the same clause that catches many golf clubs. As soon as they start renting their facilities for weddings and such, they are no longer a "private club".

[–]Speideronreddit 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And I still can't think of a golf club that doesn't match your description/definition of "business".

[–]EverybodyKnowWar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I suspect that we could fill many encyclopediae with "what you can't think of", but that doesn't mean none of it exists.

[–]TheSoviet_Onion 38 points39 points40 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is ridiculous, try to change the words for men or "CIS" with women or gay and try to publish something like this

[–]nPhlames 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/menkampf

[–]FartsInMouths 70 points71 points72 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how the article states it's like a 4hr limit, yet one member was there all day and saw like 3 men come in throughout the day. Cunts won't even abide by their own rules, why should anyone else.

[–]p3ngwin 32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

complaining that men are going to a place that, despite their best efforts, they can't legally ban men.

they make it all "girl friendly", by reinforcing female stereotypes, from pink colours, to female "heroes" adorned all over.

Even the climate control is set to "a female clothes friendly 72 F". I'm reminded of the sexist office air con ?

Yet they complain about men taking up too much space, and i wonder where all the "body diversity and inclusion" suddenly went ? Let alone the gender assumptions ?

[–]fmulder69 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It seems like a joke or a cynical cash grab. Do women really need booths named after Hermione Granger to feel empowered?

[–]p3ngwin 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

These women need all-female heroes to motivate them, in all-female gender reinforced pink environments, complete with female-friendly air temperature for their female clothing, full of nothing but wall-to-wall women because "we don't want men allowed"....

That will smash the oppressive, patriarchal, the sexist female stereotype, and gender norms, as here women can be whatever they want.....

[–]irishpwr46 32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“It’s bizarre to choose to occupy a space women specifically wanted for themselves. Classic patriarchal entitlement complex.”

Kinda like what they did to the boy scouts

[–]TheSavage99 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The amount of hypocrisy in their arguments is fucking insane.

[–]swansong19 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And then they created a girls only troop within the scouts...smfh

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

So are a group of men going to go troll now

[–]TheStinger87 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Where do I sign up?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm a woman, I was just asking if it would happen because it would be funny to see the videos of that day.

[–]TheStinger87 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would imagine a majority of women would ignore them and wait for them to have their fun, get bored and go home. But there would be the ones that went full tilt at the men and they would be amazing videos. Media would have a field day with it. Nay, a field week!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They say Islam is the religion of feminism so be sure to drop off some flyers at the local mosques too.

[–]edman79 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After all, Islam is right about women.

[–]Primarch_1 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, it’s not against the rules for men to be at the lady lair, which costs anywhere from $185 to $250 a month in the US to join. But that’s only because legally the company can’t ban me.

What a fucking mindset how can people support that. Imagine if I set up a place and then gave an interview to the fucking NY post where I said if it wasn't illegal I would totally ban black people.

[–]dumpnotpump 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Break that glass ceiling boys!

[–]FakerJunior 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What’s The Wing? Also, I have no issue with female only clubs if men are allowed to have the same privilege. Which they’re probably not.

[–]dudemanyodude 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"I usually see about five men coming in throughout the day"

Serious question... Is she sure they identify as men?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems a bit accusatory to me.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

i thought private clubs could make up any rule to be able to join them. even any restaurant "Reserves the right to refuse service to anyone"

[–]Jmaster570 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They can, but they have to keep their membership low. This one is stated to have thousands of members internationally.

[–]dudemanyodude 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

The Wing used to explicitly prohibit men, but they changed the policy after running into some problems with local laws. (More on those below.)

While restaurants can reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, on an individual basis, if they appear to be doing so based on protected categories, such as race and sex, they are going to have trouble with the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In the 1960s, many restaurants hell-bent on discriminating did reopen as private clubs to skirt the law. However, it seems the courts quickly held that these customer-facing establishments did not fit the definition of a "club"in the eyes of the law.

Private clubs that do meet the definition of the word "club," regardless of size, seem to still be allowed to discriminate, even against protected classes, without violating US Federal Law. According to this article,

First, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 contains an exemption for private clubs in their membership activities. Specifically, the Act “shall not apply to a private club or other establishment not in fact open to the public, except to the extent that the facilities of such establishment are made available to the customers or patrons of an establishment…” This language means that private clubs can’t discriminate against customers but can discriminate against prospective members.

Second, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects private clubs. The First Amendment is often cited in the context of free speech, particularly with respect to an individual person’s right to say what he or she would like and not fear government persecution. The First Amendment has also been interpreted by the courts to safeguard the right of private clubs to engage in “expressive association.”

In The Wing's case, their old policy of banning men was probably allowed under US federal law, but they ran into trouble with local laws in places where they operated, which are often more precise or haven't been tested in the courts. A man in Washington DC filed a $12 million lawsuit against The Wing for allegedly violating the District of Columbia's Human Right's Act. And the New York (City) Human Rights Commission was investigating The Wing over NYC's Human Rights Law.

It's not clear whether their change in policy to allow men was as a direct response to those legal challenges because they won't say. (My guess is that their lawyers advised them not to say because doing so could be perceived as an admission of guilt.) But I guess, in the end, they felt it was easier to stop discriminating in that way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

happy holidays

[–]The_Power_of_Tacos 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That had to be one of the worst written articles Ive ever seen. So many anonymous accounts. The one man interviewed uses buzz words that group hates like cucked. Almost seems like the """""journalist"""""/ blogger made a bunch of shit up.

[–]JaJermic 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love that womans comment " one guy checked me out" lol

[–]Criket5 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

They have soo few real female models to name their shit that they had to une fictional ones. 🤦‍♂️

[–]The_Power_of_Tacos 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there are many amazing female role models. They aren't interested in real female heroes like Marie Curie, Corrie Ten Boom, Virginia Hall, hell Joan of Arc. Those might not align with their agenda. Its just a trash article.

[–]biocunt 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“I think they’re just losers,” she says of the male plus-ones. “Or cucked boyfriends. It’s a legal fluke.”

i'd be upset if what she said wasn't so based

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men, your mission is now obvious.

Join... the ... Wing.

that is all.

[–]Domebeers 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of all the places to pick up women, you go there? Like, I applaud the chutzpah, but you aignt finding anyone pleasant there.

[–]maxstrike 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When men wanted to have their own spaces, women sued and protested. Now they are dealing with their own short sighted ideas.

[–]tokingcircle 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf is The Wing?

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