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ON spending $5.2M to help homeless women, even though vast majority of homeless are men

TC1827

October 24, 2019
217 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://news.ontario.ca/mma/en/2019/10/ontario-investing-in-supportive-housing-in-toronto.html?utm_source=ondemand&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=p
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Title ON spending $5.2M to help homeless women, even though vast majority of homeless are men
Author

TC1827

Upvotes 217
Comments 28
Date October 24, 2019 8:35 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dmmccc/on_spending_52m_to_help_homeless_women_even/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/on-spending-52m-to-help-homeless-women-even-though.1203214
https://theredarchive.com/post/1203214
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Comments

[–]joined2crusade 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Need more information to see if this is proportional

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Zorpha 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I wanna meet the people that complained. I bet I already know what they look like...

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Ventner 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

yeah and probably have homes

[–][deleted] 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Dookon 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

are given*

snare snare cymbal

[–]ThatMidJuneNostalgia 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Land whales?

[–]FortntieFan248 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup A Balooga Whale is what they look like

[–]TruthSeekingPerson 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t this sexism?

[–]StaysAwakeAllWeek 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously

[–]Mashiki 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Yes, and specifically it's GTA(Greater Toronto Area) pandering. For those that don't live in Ontario, there are roughly 55 seats in the GTA. You need 63 for a simple majority. The voting block is so overwhelmingly large that all issues of Ontario have simply become Toronto issues.

If you live in rural-urban Ontario like I do, the only way things get done is by having an MPP so good that they can make it a political blunder not to get involved.

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

I really hate voting bloc politics, I'm sorry you have to put up with that. This is why I'm so supportive of Direct Democracy because voting blocs are definitely a tyranny of the majority because people like you are just ignored and left to rot. I know what that's like as I'm in a hard left Labour stronghold myself in the UK which is why the EU referendum was such a shock to everybody, they hadn't thought that there would be tons of pissed off people like me ready to vote them down.

It doesn't help that these areas are often so left wing they won't ever vote for any alternative because they think anything to the right of Communism is Hitler so they often degenerate into absolute shitholes since nobody is willing to make a change.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is why I'm so supportive of Direct Democracy because voting blocs are definitely a tyranny of the majority

Someone has their democracy mixed up. Direct Democracy is the absolute worst tyranny by majority there is.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, mainly because you're voting on individual issues rather than having to vote for the least worse option or your vote not making any difference at all because of voting blocs. How do you think the leave voters won in the EU referendum in the first place? If it were MPs voting they would have stopped everything immediately.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With direct democracy we'd still have Jim Crow laws. Most people do not have a wealth of deep knowledge about politics or the ramifications of making different laws. For example, if a referendum came up asking to ban hate speech, the city of LA would vote to pass it. And then the city officials would have a heyday arresting political opponents for hate speech.

DD is bad news bears.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah the old "The public is too stupid to make an informed decision and I'm smarter than all of them" argument. That is precisely why we have free speech and it should be made into law so that people can discuss these issues freely. If they vote for banning hate speech then it's your fault for not convincing them it's a bad idea to enforce that.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not stupid, ignorant. Which is why the American founders created a constitutional republic instead of a democracy.

[–]Mashiki 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's been calls for a few years to make Toronto it's own province because of the amount of undue sway it creates on provincial politics. The system we use here in Canada and Ontario is FPTP, which means you vote for the party and no votes for the leader. It's kinda the opposite of what's in the US where you vote for each level of government(house rep, senate, president). Republics work well, as long as they can hold to it. The general infighting makes sure that extreme types of bullshit has a very low chance of ever getting passed.

Things like our Westminister system only work as long as the senate works properly, one of the biggest and best ways to fix the current problems we have in Canada at the federal level would be allowing those positions to be voted on. Right now they're appointees, and I'm sure you can see the problem. The proposed system by many people is called a Triple-E senate if you're wanting to read up on it.

[–]redditguy61 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Proof that Trad Con White Knights (Doug Ford) are no different than radical feminists and are enemies of men.

[–]KaitonREEEEE 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are worse. Socialist policies released by liberals are given to everyone. While conservatives take away socialist policies that benefit everyone and give it solely to women.

[–]Mashiki 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Progressive Conservatives" are further left then the democrats. The last trad con white knight that led the PC party was under Bill Davis, which would be over a generation ago.

[–]v573v -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Is Doug Ford really different than any other man in being ‘an enemy of men’ as you put it?

By placing women and children first Doug Ford is embracing an aspect of masculinity and if masculinity is the cumulative traits of men how can he be an enemy of men?

This is why patriarchy theory is such bullshit - masculinity prevents men from exercising power for the sake of other men. A father works for the benefit of his wife and children not the man next door or the homeless man down the street.

You might want to rethink your position on making the traits of masculinity the enemy of man since it’s an inherent trait and will fall on, at the very least, deaf ears, and at the most, will be met with hostility, but either way you lose men from your cause.

You’ll do well to always remember that:

men’s rights is for the sake of men - in spite of men.

[–]redditguy61 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh, just no, White Knight.

[–]redditguy61 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh, and it sucks that the so called Men's Rights Movement is infiltrated by the likes of "men" like you.

But I'm sure you're just a feminist troll.

[–]v573v 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Masculinity is a series of inherent traits that are significantly different than women’s inherent traits that define femininity.

You have two options: obey your inherent masculinity or, by willpower, reject your masculinity and embrace femininity. I’ll support your decision to reject masculinity and embrace femininity but I seriously doubt you’ve done that have you? Ironically, you’d be hard pressed to find a homeless man who doesn’t support helping homeless women before helping him.

[–]redditguy61 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What a load of nonsense. You're brainwashed.

[–]v573v -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Name-calling is not a counterpoint.

Do you have anything to add that will result in a conversation about this because sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting names isn’t going to stop the fact that the vast majority of men are inherently masculine and masculine behaviour directly benefits women and children.

A man exhibiting masculine traits and behaviours can not be an enemy of men since the vast majority of men agree with his behaviour.

I’m behaving inline with my inherent traits that have informed my role in society but according to you that makes me brainwashed? Lol!

Radical feminism puts itself at odds with the average woman when they assert that women obeying their inherent traits and voluntarily adopting the primary caregiver role over a STEM career makes them the enemy of women. You honestly believe that men’s rights should adopt a similar position when it comes to men?

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