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Goodbye Bernie. Not sure who to support. Cardi B explains to Sanders that she once struggled financially. She didn’t explain how she got by.

benderXX

August 13, 2019
32 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/watch-cardi-b-talks-minimum-wage-with-bernie-sanders/
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Title Goodbye Bernie. Not sure who to support. Cardi B explains to Sanders that she once struggled financially. She didn’t explain how she got by.
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benderXX

Upvotes 32
Comments 38
Date August 13, 2019 10:59 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cq0xxk/goodbye_bernie_not_sure_who_to_support_cardi_b/
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[–]herefortheparty01 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She got drugged men and stole from them to get by.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Between this and his "White people don't understand what it's like to be poor", I'm amazed there are people willing to support this clown.

[–]andejoh 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wrote Bernie off the moment he said he wanted to forgive student debt. We need to continue to fund the re-education comas.

What I support is government not making loans to students, but to schools. I propose keeping the same protections for government money that there are now (ie the loan the government gave the school can't be discharged in bankruptcy. They should also make the officers personally liable. support giving students the same protections as any consumer who takes out a loan (ie access to bankruptcy protection).

If government adopted this position, the cost of education would rise at the rate of inflation rather than 4 to 5 times the rate. Schools would no longer offer majors that don't earn enough money to repay the loans or would demand security, which would make the student more selective (in theory) with their choice of major.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think she wants to go there.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Sanders had some good ideas back in 2016, but today he's just old baggage. Putting him in charge of the country wold be like putting a blue-pilled old man who thinks everything should be about taking care of women in charge. Actually, that's exactly what it would be.

Also, how clueless is he that he doesn't know about her rape, theft, and other crimes??

Sorry, Bern... you're just a joke now.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Bernie never had good ideas, he'd have driven our country into bankrupty and taxed the hardest working men into poverty while doing so.

Socialism isn't for men, it's for women who are too lazy to earn as much as men.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Can't disagree.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I was actually going to vote for Bernie in the 2016 election prior to the primaries getting rigged.

I just didn't want the mudslinging, but I'm starting to realize that there are worse things than mudslinging.

Trump has really managed to get radicals to expose their true intentions which I think is a good move for improving politics.

[–]RagingHardBull 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I also was pro-bernie for a short minute. Not sure if it was really about bernie or simply a deep subs-conscious understanding a woman (hillary) should never have such power.

Luckily, bernie got outted and I moved on to Trump. What a bullet dodged. All of bernies plans are literally stealing from men to give to women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All of bernies plans are literally stealing from men to give to women.

Once Bernie started going all "MEN THIS!" and "WAGE GAP!" I knew I had dodged a bullet.

I'm glad I didn't vote for him, it's become abundantly clear to me as I've gotten older that taxes are really only about wealth redistribution from Men to Women. I don't know if I could've lived with that realization after the fact. May be the only time in history that someone rigging a primary election in their favor was actually good.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The democratic party is full or radical liberals that think everyone should get stuff for free. They all point at "rich people and companies" to pay for stuff, but fail to realize that no one wants to pay for shit for a bunch of losers that won't get a real job.

For example, forgiving student loans. WTF?? I paid for my own undergrad and grad degree. I picked a public university for undergrad. I got a degree that lead to a real job. Why should I now be asked to pay for some losers' degrees in gender studies from a private school? Fuck that shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When they say "rich people and companies" they mean "Men", because at the end of the day they will tax the middle class and in all likelihood Women take more in welfare than they pay in taxes.

[–]rationalthought314 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The fact that of all the candidates CNN and MsNBC hate Bernie as well as the bitter HRC feminists makes him a better candidate on that alone on the Democrat side. He went on a Fox News townhall when the other candidates thought it beneath and he won applause from the crowd as well as making a good showing on Joe Rogan. His stance on women's issues is generally a practical one which should be MRA that is practical equality without the bashing of men overall or trite slogans like "the future is female." I find more women who support Bernie are not the shrill feminist or blue-pill men type who scream "misogyny!" simply because a male candidate dares to run against a female one or wags a finger during debate.

But anyway, not to turn this into politics, in regards to MRA I don't feel Bernie inspires that radical male-hating segment of leftist women mainly because they despise him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Saying that Bernie is the best democrat is like saying something is the best type of cancer.

[–]rationalthought314 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

didn't say he was the best democrat, I said he was the better candidate. Most of his political career he was an independent.

[–]Becki_Minaj4 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

If you like Bernie you should check out Andrew Yang.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If you hate men check out either of them.

Socialism is the process of enslaving men to give money to women, men unilaterally end off the worst under socialism. Andrew Yang and Bernie both spew the same leftist insults, both are willing to slander innocent people as sexist/racist.

[–]RagingHardBull 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Socialism is just more women being married to the government. It is a husband at gun point. Give women all the things she values in a mate by force. Men better step up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Socialism is just women saying "If you won't voluntarily give up human decency and be my slave, I'll just make the government enslave you and then I'll take the money instead"

It's slavery by proxy.

No amount of "Stepping up" can stop this, unless it's in the form of a violent and bloody revolution.

[–]RagingHardBull 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I meant "stepping up" as "men better step up and provide". That is the paradigm.

I agree about bloody revolution. I wonder why it isn't here yet. So many men harmed via divorce laws. Jailed due to child support. Jailed due to XYZ laws that are selectively enforced. What do they have to lose in the current system? They have no children (estranged even if they once did). They have no consistent supply of sex. Even if they do it's too dangerous to participate in. They receive no honors in society. Not thanks.

Really, what do men have to lose? When one is at the bottom of the food chain the worst that happens in revolution is they are still at the bottom. Better than 50% odds they aren't when it's all over.

I am sure it will come. Gov better hope it can keep the food flowing, the internet connected, and keep up the lie a bit longer that every year people aren't getting poorer.

The world is in a precarious situation, IMO.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I meant "stepping up" as "men better step up and provide". That is the paradigm.

The problem is we've seen this, for example with black households. In periods of recession/depression Democrats offered welfare to "Single Mothers" at higher rates than for those mothers who were married or with a partner, the result? Women chose the higher earner - the government and mass fatherlessness ensued.

Women have suckled the government teat and tastes the benefit of not having to work, the taste of effortlessly obtained wealth, the power of stealing from others while maintaining moral authority - that's not going away without extreme action.

I agree about bloody revolution. I wonder why it isn't here yet. So many men harmed via divorce laws. Jailed due to child support. Jailed due to XYZ laws that are selectively enforced. What do they have to fight for? They have no children (estranged even if they once did). They have no consistent supply of sex. Even if they do it's too dangerous to participate in. They receive no honors in society. Not thanks.

That's the most bizarre thing, like not even protests! There's nothing, it's like they've gone completely docile.

The world is in a precarious situation, IMO.

That hopefully turns out to be a good thing in the long run.

[–]RagingHardBull 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The good news is that it will stop when the gov cannot pay for it. There are trillion dollar deficits. Huge debt bubbles all around the world to fund women's aristocracy lifestyle.

The bill is coming due soon though. And, that will be the catalyst that ends the welfare, etc. People criticize Trump for low taxes and high spending. Intentionally or not he is implementing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The good news is that it will stop when the gov cannot pay for it. There are trillion dollar deficits. Huge debt bubbles all around the world to fund women's aristocracy lifestyle.

Absolutely true. It likely won't be long before the EU collapses, people in France are rioting over taxes.

The bill is coming due soon though. And, that will be the catalyst that ends the welfare, etc. People criticize Trump for low taxes and high spending. Intentionally or not he is implementing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

That is actually one of the most persuasive arguments I've seen. I can't believe I hadn't heard of that until now.
If you have a glutton, take away it's spoon.

[–]WikiTextBot 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Starve the beast

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives to limit government spending by cutting taxes, in order to deprive the federal government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force it to reduce spending.

The term "the beast", in this context, refers to the United States Federal Government and the programs it funds, using mainly American taxpayer dollars, particularly social programs such as education, welfare, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

On July 14, 1978, economist Alan Greenspan testified to the U.S. Finance Committee: "Let us remember that the basic purpose of any tax cut program in today's environment is to reduce the momentum of expenditure growth by restraining the amount of revenue available and trust that there is a political limit to deficit spending."Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance.


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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Socialism is the process of enslaving men to give money to women,

LOL! Another right wing retard who has no idea what the fuck he's on about.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Here's a list of politicians who care about men's rights:

haha just kidding

Here's a list of politicians in order from bad to worse:

1: Andrew Yang (Wife is MRA)

2: Donald Trump (Will encourage the rest of the world stop copying America)

3: Everyone else (Will probably keep up feminism on its current trajectory)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Andrew Yang is a raging feminist who routinely pushes feminist falsehoods:

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/fight-for-equal-pay/

This is stupid. People should receive equal pay for doing equal work. While federal law requires this, we’re still far from achieving it in practice. There’s a lot of fuzziness around the $.80-to-the-dollar stat, especially once you take race as well as gender into account, but the simple fact remains that women—especially black, Hispanic, and Native American women—earn much less than their male coworkers.

You can bet that once in office, he will kowtow to feminists like a good little trained dog.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If that's true, why is he stating the shortcomings of that statistic in your own quote?

That's actually pretty ballsy for a democratic candidate. It's probably the reason why the news keeps censoring him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If that's true, why is he stating the shortcomings of that statistic in your own quote?

Why does Safe Alliance pretend to care about men but then demonize males?
It's called lipservice, it's meant to try and pretend to be a "moderate" like when Hillary Clinton flips flops repeated on issues.

He's done nothing to help men - not even once - and he believes in a bogus statistic that is used to harm men, that's enough evidence for me.

[–]GrantNexus 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You certainly have 2 and 3 reversed.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you say that? I don't like him either but the media hates him so at least we're getting told more. Whenever Obama killed civilians in the middle east nobody cared, now suddenly the media is extremely concerned about why war is bad.

Iceland's circumcision ban fell through because of American NGOs. Africans are being circumcised by American NGOs. Under Trump, the rest of the world is finally growing out of their America-worship. If he keeps up the protectionism, soon people will realize American NGOs aren't trying to help anyone.

And of course, war and circumcision are MR issues. Ultimately he has had a good effect on the world so far. If a democrat wins it will be 4 more years of shit quietly hitting the fan.

[–]RagingHardBull 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Andrew is not bad in that the freedom dividend has no gender. Current welfare is for women by women paid for by men.

However, the underlying impulses in society to give more to women has not changed. If the freedom dividend passes, then it will be no more than a year before there is a successful lobby to give women just a little more dividend because they do so much unpaid work for society

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

1 and 2 are reversed.

Andrew Yang is a raging leftist who slanders anyone he dislikes as an [x]-ist.

Not to mention Andrew Yang is a socialist and would push taxation on those who work hard and earn good money (Men) to benefit those who do not (Women).

Socialism is just women using government to rob men of their money, it's the supreme form of lifelong alimony.

[–]a-man-from-earth 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You don't understand Andrew Yang and you severely misrepresent him.

As it is, he is the best hope for America. He's not a socialist. He supports the free market economy, but he also cares about people.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You just read what's in the DNC pamphlet and believe it don't you.

His actions do not match his words, he's more than willing to insult everyone who won't agree with him as "Mysoginistic" or the like. He'll happily push the wage gap and other feminist lies, and he only tries to hide it while on TV:

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/fight-for-equal-pay/

This is stupid. People should receive equal pay for doing equal work. While federal law requires this, we’re still far from achieving it in practice. There’s a lot of fuzziness around the $.80-to-the-dollar stat, especially once you take race as well as gender into account, but the simple fact remains that women—especially black, Hispanic, and Native American women—earn much less than their male coworkers.

The man is a coward, he's still your typical Man-hating lying leftist who pushes known falsehoods that harm men because he just doesn't fucking care.

Andrew Yang is a man-hating leftist feminist who will at the earliest opportunity show is true colors and spit in the fact of innocent young men in the name of enslaving them to take their earnings for women who don't pay taxes.

He is a socialist, he just doesn't want to admit it openly because it's knowingly unpopular. Andrew Yang wants to put in place massive taxes on young men in order for young women to live for free - as all socialists do. I cannot as a man, ever in good conscience, support a "Men are slaves, Women are owners" approach to economics. No self respecting man can say "I think my rampantly sexist government should take 80% of my income and give it to women who pay nothing in taxes". The government does not respect men, it doesn't care about men, it has no business taxing men until it changes it's ways.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

His language is actually much more mild than the other candidates. If he's hiding his true colors, then why would he act the least aggressive out of all of them?

I think the opposite is much more likely- that he's secretly a MRA but has to openly support feminism for politics. He is even stating in your quote some of the flaws with the 80 cent statistic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His language is actually much more mild than the other candidates. If he's hiding his true colors, then why would he act the least aggressive out of all of them?

The other candidates walk out and shit straight in men's faces, he's pretending to be moderate this is not a new political practice. It's like saying "Sure he's outright lying, spreading misinformation that hurts men while completely and 100% denying men's issues, but at least he's not shitting in our mouths"

We have better options, Yang is unnecessary and won't win anyway.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For anyone thinking Andrew Yang is a good alternative:

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/fight-for-equal-pay/

This is stupid. People should receive equal pay for doing equal work. While federal law requires this, we’re still far from achieving it in practice. There’s a lot of fuzziness around the $.80-to-the-dollar stat, especially once you take race as well as gender into account, but the simple fact remains that women—especially black, Hispanic, and Native American women—earn much less than their male coworkers.

The man is a fraud. He toes the Feminist partly line as soon as they say bark.

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