everytime a men post on reddit about how ugly he feel, or how short he is, there’s always a lot a bunch of comment trynna talking him out of it mostly from women. i know somebody who did lenght surgery, he went from 5’7 to 5’10 , and let me tell you something, he improve a lot. i know it’s still not 6 ft, but i think yall don’t realize how much of a difference that is. go on r/jawline and see how much improvement that is. crazy how something so simple completely can change tour attractiveness. society normalize women’s surgery, most women in hollywood in fact have surgery of all kind, so why is it so controversial for men? most of the time it’s not because they care about you, it’s because women feel like you cheat your genetics, and they hate the fact that at some point they might end up hooking up, or have relationship with someboy they wouldn’t even want before. so it contradict they bluepill view of “it’s because of your personality” BS. if you feel like you wanna get surgery, do it. if you don’t think it’s necessary, then dont. don’t let people of reddit gaslight you, some people do have shitty personality, but sometime you just ugly plain and simple, and women of reddit will gaslight the living out of you and make you think therr’s something wrong with you. sure sometime it went wrong, so does everything in life. look at SZA, sure she was always attractive, but the look she have right now is the one everyone crasy about. a ugly guy that went from having a receding jawline, or a 3 inch in height etc, might have women interesting in him, and they hate that becaue how dare you not just stay the way you were. not everybody were born equal, You happen to be born with a shitty genetic, you don’t have to accept that. most if not all k pop singers have surgery, some were buttugly, now they have girls screaming for them. totally not bluepill right. women here will say “ my boyfriend is 4’11” or “i know somebody who’s 3 ft and slay pussy left and right”most of the time it’s lies. and let’s say those who’s telling the truth, she don’t speak for most women, you might go your whole life never meeting somebody like that. white guys who are considered ugly go in country like thailand, and other asian country and get women. the reason for that is because asian men (specially if you are ugly) is considered even less than white ones. and that’s why there’s so many asian incels who despise white dudes. because white guys who would get laugh at by women in usa or western countries are considered better than them. they are literally at the bottom. the way the media portray asian men is shitty, and doesnt help either. not all of em are after money, some do develop relationship. i feel like most women who are on reddit are in their late 30’s and 40’s, i mean it did use to work like that. so maybe they do believe it works like that, but for a guy like who is from this generation that’s going to college, i already know the deal and the reality. i mean go take a look on social media, and society. watch and observe instead of listening. women experience hookup, and relationship. the “ugly guy in couple “they are talking about most of the time is mostly girls settleling. most of those guys have to be betabuxx, or in relationship to get pussy. they never experienced hookup, flings, or even real attraction in their life.