I'm not sure what this community thinks about plastic surgery as there are people out there that don't like the way they look (myself included). These people think that bettering themselves will help them get attention from the opposite sex. So, some of them try going to the gym and while they might better themselves in terms of having a leaner body their faces would say otherwise. Yes, plenty of people that are 3s or 4s before weight loss will automatically look better in the face and even go up two or three points because fat can hide whatever bone structure is underneath it. However, there are 3/10s that are truly unlucky no matter what and they just remain the same in terms of their face rating due to having receding jawlines, receding chins, and "creep" eyes with high amounts of upper or lower eyelid exposure. Like, they put in all this work but in the end still struggle with having a very subpar face. It's as if what they did, it was all for nothing essentially.

I brought up plastic surgery because maybe for the 3s and 4s that aren't overweight, it could perhaps help them get up to the 5-6 range if not higher assuming whatever surgeries they get are successful. As for 1s and 2s, they're pretty much stuck where they're at. I actually had someone in a different subreddit tell me that even with plastic surgery he still remained a 2/10 face wise despite having a lean body. I believe I have a 4/10 face because of my horrid eye area but I have a good jawline at least from what I've been told.

I already talked about my eyes and went into detail about them in a previous post, so I guess you can see for yourselves if you want. And I know that may sound harsh because I don't have a bad jaw and chin area, but the eyes can either make or break someone's face and that no amount of jawline will save you. At least, that's what I've heard! I mean, does every man in the entire world need hunter eyes to be successful in life or dating? I thought overall facial harmony was what mattered most. I'm not saying this debunks the blackpill or anything because it doesn't. I did mention wanting to get surgery to fix up my eyes to make them have a lot less eyelid exposure, a more almond appearance, and at least a neutral canthal tilt if not positive.

On a final note, I am aware that good looking people are treated better in society and have dating success compared to sub 5s especially those that are sub 4. I'm also aware that plastic surgery isn't going to fix all of your problems because you could still struggle with mental health issues or deal with situations that are out of your control. Anyways, do you guys think that plastic surgery would be cheating the system? I have a feeling that it would, but at least one could feel a little more confident in their appearance asssuming whatever surgeries they get end up successful and actually do change their faces for the better.

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