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How to maintain frame in confrontation with a larger guy?

calm_boy
April 19, 2018
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Title How to maintain frame in confrontation with a larger guy?
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calm_boy
Upvotes 10
Comments 32
Date April 19, 2018 12:04 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
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Comments

[–]FuckboyAWALT12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you scared because he’s larger?

Come on. Hold eye contact and let him look away. Be calm. Speak slowly and deep.

If it’s a 1on1 conversation let him do the talking (48 laws of power). If it’s a group do the talking. However not too much.

[–]prodtorok12 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

As another said look him in his eyes. Be real bc you're confidant in yourself. Otherwise try and fake it I guess.

If this is a physical confrontation (but we should be past this):

Im pretty big myself (5'11'' ~ athletic/muscular) but come from a rough background, contact sports & Army... so have plenty of experience here.

You look them in the eyes and you know right then and there if they are real or not. If they don't have it, then you end it pretty fast & if they do... well I hope you have some type of martial art background. For me its wrestling and no big guy has ever been able to handle a leg sweep to their back. Be fast with whatever you choose to do though, you won't have much time.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Real gangstas don't talk, they do. Really the best thing you can always do is walk away, you'll never get anything good out of some street fight. Most people talk shit, but won't ever do anything. I've been in countless volatile situations, and I always treat them the same. I don't act defensive, and I don't change my mood. This tells them that I'm by no means threatened by them, and I don't take them seriously. This is sort of related to the martial art saying, "I know how to fight, so I don't have to".

[–]ClockLad1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the wise words of Biggie: "Don't you know bad boys move in silence and violence?"

[–]HannibalBacara 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I'm not sure what everyone else is this thread is talking about.

If you escalate and end up getting your ass kicked are you gonna still think you did the "right" thing when you're eating through a straw for the next 2 months?

When you go out you will inevitably encounter drunk douchebags just looking for a reason to fight. Ignore until they actually start trying to start a fight.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and the alternative is if you win, that's a possible assault charge. They can also be left permanently disabled. Overall not worth it and almost always avoidable

[–]SLICKlikeBUTTA0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Real gangsta ass niggas don't run their fucking mouth because real gangsta ass niggas don't start fights.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem37 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If you dont maintain eye contact, you present as prey/weak and may induce a beat down that stare usually avoids. The truth is most people are evenly matched, because most people are average and never been in a fight. Even if you suxk at fighting, give off the appearance. At the end of the day, it's just beatdown..mostly likely it'll hurt a bit that's it. So have courage. GL.

[–]menial_optimist5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is not true. A full strength punch to the head has a chance to kill you. Every fight is a potentially a life and death situation. Fighting should be avoided unless you have to. Gone are the days where two guys would agree to fight and have a proper duel. These days when one person has clearly lost it's more likely you're just going to get your face smashed in while your unconscious leaving you brain damaged or dead.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem31 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is not true. A full strength punch to the head has a chance to kill you. Every fight is a potentially a life and death situation

of course, but I've seen my share of fights at a bar and they get broken up fairly quickly, I do not think I've seen anyone get hauled in a way in stretcher.

The vast majority of men are average and are not going to kill you with one punch. you'll likely take a few licks and shit gets broken up. If you think to yourself, shit I could be killed, then you are unlikely to ever risk that and it would show. I do not want to live in fear, nor should the OP...

[–]menial_optimist0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Neither do I, but this aint the 50s anymore where you could have a manly duel and have enough decency to know when to stop. These days people go ape style and have no problems kicking people in the head when they are down. It's really the unblocked blows to the head that could leave you a vegetable or dead. It's good the fights you saw were broken up by bar security but what if you're out on the streets going 1 on 1? No ones going to pull the guy off if he knocks you out and then winds up boots to your head leaving you permanently deaf in one ear or worse.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem31 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

my take away is best to avoid fights but don't be a pussy about or shy away from verbal confrontations because might be scared of getting beat up. It's true you can be brutally beaten these days, best to learn when you are alone and run away and not start stuff. but when you are in a social setting where the risk of death is low, better to stand up for yourself.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but I've seen my share of fights at a bar and they get broken up fairly quickly,

Sometimes. You forgot to write 'sometimes' and 'not always'. And, you forgot to underline that and highlight same.

Anybody that thinks that their fight will be broken up fairly quickly have only been in the bars that this poster has been in.

Trust me on this one.

[–]Iwannachokekatie3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When I'm intimidated by a guy, it's never "Oh, he's big..." it's "damn, he looks like knows how to fight".

[–]lepuma-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the bigger person usually wins

[–]Iwannachokekatie0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the weight difference is like 30+ pounds and fighting experience equal, probably.

Take someone like Zabit Magomedsharipov and the average wanna be tough bber of equal height. Zabit is a twink, but he's not the one who'd get wrecked.

[–]themormonchurch1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

make friends with him

[–]ColmM361 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eye contact 100% will work.

I work in a pretty busy bar and I often tell myself "tonight I won't break eye contact first with any customer" because fuck it I'm likely never going to see them again. It's a good drill to do. Anyway, eventually you can really judge a character by eye contact, Mike Tyson had a similar philosophy on his opponents.

Use eye contact to judge and disarm him. If you measure him and realise you can't best him, use your wits

[–]TRPAndNofapGotMeLaid 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends on the context. What kind of confrontation?

[–]LeftAndRed -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Hey lil’ buddy. I’ll help you out. These other guys don’t understand your problem. This is an intimidation issue. Telling you to maintain eye contact is retarded. I assume you already know that, so here’s your answer:

You MUST learn how to fight. If you know how and have scrapped a few times (in the ring or the streets. Streets will give you more confidence, but ring is muuuuch safer).

When I’m confronted with a big dude, I have no problem being fucking menacing as shit. There’s nothing like looking into the eyes of a man with experience while he’s contemplating the prospect of violence.

You MUST learn how to fight. When I need to, I start thinking “he may win, but I’m gonna fuck him up so bad he’ll wish we hadn’t tangled.” Then I consider how I would go about breaking his jaw while keeping my eyes locked.

Go to a boxing gym. Then don’t be afraid to have a little bare knuckle fights even if it’s just with friends.

[–]kimchi-22 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nowadays in the U.S., even if it goes to physical fight:

guys around you will interfere, you'll hardly be just you vs the other guy

his friends will help him, trust me, all the "honor" stuff that they'd think they have will go down the drain instantly, pure ape behavior

people with boring lives (aka the majority of people) will instantly pull up their phones and start recoding shit

the said people above will call the police instantly (squealer mentality, which is typical of americans)

you'll get in legal trouble - > jail or get branded as an outcast (criminal record)

Nowadays, it won't come down to a fair physical fight, no, it's gonna be a very cowardly attack on you - using the so-called "legal system", hiring lawyers, lying about the fact that you instigated the fight, and that you hurt this, using your words as an intent to hurt etc

And the "society" will like to bring you down, in a herd manner (everyone wants to be part of society, by disagreeing they'll be seen as outcasts), as they themselves are too cowardly to engage in physical fight, seeing someone who isn't will make them uneasy & abhorrent to their pink, sterile world, which again, stimulates them to bring you down, have you isolated from "society".

This is more prominent in Asian countries such as China/S. Korea, and it's shitty, but that's where societies everywhere are going forward to.

[–]LeftAndRed 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I’m not advocating attacking. I advocating keeping violence on the table psychologically. And only experience will give you that ability (it’s similar to abundance).

I haven’t gotten into a fight in years. It’s not because I haven’t had these moments. It’s because the douche calculated I was bad prey.

[–]kimchi-22 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You seem not to have understood anything I wrote. Re-read again.

on the table psychologically.

It's pointless, if you're unable to act on it.

[–]LeftAndRed 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

pointless if you’re unable to act

I’ve been a target of a mugging but never mugged. We looked at each other and both agreed I wasn’t a suitable candidate.

That’s what I advocate for. Not barroom brawls. That confidence just carries over.

[–]menial_optimist0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

squealer mentality

That is so true. People love squealing.

[–]room_303-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Fighting is for dumb fucks who either accidentally kill someone, or accidentally get killed, or get kicked on the ground by two people they didn't see and retain life disabling ailments.

RP is walking the fuck away while never showing your back.

[–]LeftAndRed -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

lol. Ok buddy. A man who can’t handle violence is an oxymoron. If you can’t protect yourself, then what use are you?

[–]room_3030 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ok I'm a pussy, ill be home watching some shit movie while you are sipping through a straw posting about injustice on social media.

[–]LeftAndRed -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ironically (and surprising to you) being psychologically able to inflict violence decreases the incidence of potential violence. While you’re watching your movie, don’t forget the chamomile tea.

[–]room_3030 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They pull a gun or knife and you jackie chan it out of their hands I suppose.

[–]LeftAndRed 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are clueless. Enjoy being runoff like a BP cuck. You can also mutter under your breath about how hurtful toxic masculinity is and wonder why men are “conditioned” to stand up for themselves and hold their ground. Clearly you lack that same instinct. Tuck your dick and walk away.

Men’s lives are predicated on violence. Every interaction has the potential to become violent. You don’t understand redpill until you can acknowledge this.

[–]room_3030 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a negative foxtrot bravo.

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