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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Alright, this is my area of expertise.
Bring the date up as early in the conversation as possible. I don't mean opening with "Would you go on a date with me?", I mean making a joke or two and segwaying that into your date. There's no such thing as a 'golden rule' here because every girl is different, but as early in the convo as possible. I usually open with telling her that we're going on a date or something that would segway towards it. You usually should have a tailored message for something from her pic/bio. For example, if her profile says "CHIPOTLE❤" , you can say "You like Chipotle? Guess I know where we're going on our first date. McDonald's". Something that isn't just "Hey" and gives her something to respond to.
If you get pushback (ex. well that sounds tempting but I don't give my number out that easily), just keep talking/making a few more jokes for let's say 20 messages or less (usually much less) and revisit the date/getting the number. You have to push for it, but don't seem pushy.
Don't just text girls aimlessly for "a couple days" because that doesn't work. I'm not gonna say some girls aren't into 'getting to know you more' and that they won't lose interest if you don't go out with her immediately. But just assume those girls don't exist. Every time you text a girl, it should be with a purpose. I do 1. Make a joke or two 2. Segway into date talk 3. Make jokes about the date talk. "I don't want to ruin you for other men, but that's how good our date is going to be" 4. Get her number. I like doing it this way because by the time you get her number, you've already let her know there's going to be a date. From there, we figure out when it's happening. Push for as early as possible.
DON'T ASK THE GIRL ON A DATE. TELL HER. I don't do "Hey, wanna catch a movie with me on Saturday?". I'll say "We're gonna watch that terrible Emoji movie on our date Saturday. Just fyi. Prepare yourself emotionally." I used to push for either a movie or food, but I've found greater success with pushing for a unique date "We're going skydiving so..." As a sidenote, I should say that I don't think I've ever done what I said I was going to do on any of my dates. I freestyle all of my dates and it goes well for me because I go with the flow and if you get stood up, you didn't plan out a date for nothing.
Didn't mean to make such a long post about the basics of text game, but I feel like number 3 is the most relevant to the problem you mentioned, but I also saw other problems as well that you won't have if you take my advice. Hope this helps.
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[–]fosterbuster 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Noone knows if it's a wrong assumption or not. It doesn't really matter. With my experience with Tinder, all women I asked if they want to go for a date and actually said yes - went.
Keep in mind that a phone number does not hold any value in itself. Do not ask for the number first, and then the date. Get the date, and get the number (or Facebook messenger, WhatsApp or whatever). Then you actually have a reason for getting the number - And the only reason to get it is because you need some way to contact her, is just for that.
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[–]Willkuer_ 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's really hard to say without knowing your profile and messages. I'd say the image you represent in your profile and the vibe you send through text are not in agreement. You appear incoherent and thus girls flake.
But girls will always flake because they often use online dating for validation only. They only use it to let the match number increase because this will yield some artificial self-worth. Then they also like to flirt with strangers because it is fun. But meeting you was never part of the deal.
Online dating is a numbers game as all dating activities. However the conversion rate is impressively bad if you are not top 20%.
Considered night game in parallel? I think if you make first successes there you don't want to do online-dating anymore.
[–]Agrees_withyou 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, you're right!
[–]tiffusagi 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"we should..." isnt really asking someone on a date and "im doing this next week you should come" isnt really asking either LOL. girls like to feel special so you have to straight up be like "i wanna take you out on a date". You'll get a straight up yes or no and i feel like thats better than the "sure" that youre not really sure about u know?
[–]fosterbuster 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What I used to say when I was still dating, was something along the lines that they seemed nice/sweet and I'd like to go for a date. Do not agree on the specifics such as exactly where and at what time.. since this gives you a window to confirm to both her and you that you are indeed going on that date..
[–]halermine 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Segue :)
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