This is gonna be a long one, so I'm putting TL;DRs after each set Some backstory: I love a good party as much as anyone else, but I dont know how to get into them. As such, the only parties I have been to are composed entirely of people I know (boo!). A friend of mine that lives above me rushed a frat last year and I let him know that I'm down to party anytime. Fastforward to last night: I'm sitting at a coffee shop sketching and I get a text asking if I'm down to hit up a heaven and hell frat party. This is my big chance to try out the stuff I've learned here on seddit. I'm in!

We get to party and he introduces me to his friends who left before we did, so they were already at the party. His first friend is really cool, but they sound pretty close, so I decide not to make a move. His next friend HB7 had a friend with her HB5 (remember these two). My friend grabs some beer, but I don't drink and I am very adamant about it. Now that I think of it, it makes a nice push-pull when a girl tries to convince you to drink (I had the excuse of being DD in my pocket if things got too far). I let my friend take the lead on things at first because he knows the party scene. With the first couple of groups he introduces me by saying that this is my first frat party. I think he was trying to get pity for me, but pity is what betas get, so fuck that. He soon realizes that the pity thing isn't gonna work

TL;DR: never try to play the pity card, it places you as a beta

The dance floor starts to get moving and my friend says we should just wait on the sides, if a girl starts giving you the eye then you are in. Sure you are in if you get the eye, but I had a feeling that wasn't gonna happen. After a bit I see a group of three girls dancing that look reasonable. I say that we should ask to dance with them. He says that there are three of them, so we need another guy. My response was that with two of us it plays them against each other and he doesn't think that this is a good idea (was I right here or was he?). Anyways, he grabs a random guy to come into our group and I let my friend take the lead asking the girls to dance. The flat out say no. I wasn't too worried, but I find out later that this is unheard of. Apparently, at the very least they will dance with you for a minute then leave to do something else.

TL;DR: My friend takes the lead and we are flat out rejected. Question: is it better to approach a group man down to play the girls against each other, or should you have a guy for each girl?

I figure that it is a better idea to open to some girls in the other room and then ask them to dance rather than wait around in the dancing area. I'm still letting my friend take the lead to let him feel good about being the knowledgeable one in the party situation. I'm standing in the beer line behind my friend and while he gets served an HB6/7 asks if I am in line. I tell her to go ahead. She realizes that I was in line and doesn't want to be rude. I insist because I don't drink and it makes me look like a gentleman. After she gets her drink she comes back to say thank you and my friend opens. By this this time HB6/7's friend HB8 has come over looking for her so she gets roped into the conversation. my friend says that HB8 looks like Ke$ha. She kind freaks out and says that she doesn't think so and she really doesn't want to look like her. Baller moment: Kino on the shoulder "Hey, I'm seddit_throwaway. You know, my first impression of you is that you look nothing like Ke$ha." She laughs and introduces herself. I'm in. I tell her that she should go dance. She needs to find another friend, but she promises a dance after she finds her friend. I'm not a fan of being lead around by a girl while she looks for her friend because it makes me look needy, so I let her go, hoping to open another set in the meantime.

TL;DR: HB8 promises me a dance

I don't find any other groups to open to because they either have guys trying to game them and I don't want to be a douche or its like 5 girls with only or two that I am interested in. I need help on the group dynamic, what is some advice for the? I only ask because it sounds like you can get a look of success if you master the group open/dynamic. Meanwhile my friend is starting to realize that I've got confidence and am not an AFC. I decide that it is time to take HB8 up on that dance. I find her on the dance floor and she has found her friend. I get that dance like a boss. She then tells me that she has to find another friend (this is after at least 15 min of dancing, so it wasn't immediate). I know that this is just an excuse because she wants to stop dancing, so I take it as an opportunity to open a new set. Before she leaves I tell her that she isn't getting away that easy, I'm not done with her.

TL;DR: I get my dance with HB8 and leave the set open to later opportunities

Remember HB7 and HB5 from before, well here it is. after HB8 leaves my friend grabs me to do the try to get a girl's attention on the dance floor bs. I humor him then tell him that I'm gonna cut out to try and find some other girls. He is astounded by my confidence, but is like "You know what you are doing".I find HB7 and HB5 and have an easy open with them because HB7 and I have a mutual friend (the guy who invited me). I light kino HB5 while heavy kinoing HB7 (after all, she is the one that I am into). The kino with HB7 escalates fast. By fast, I mean that in about 30 sec so has her hands on my abs. If you haven't read my first mini-FR here you should know that I am a rock climber, so while I don't look ripped (lean muscle) I am, and my abs are awesome. I see her light up a little and I tell her that we are going to dance, now! She grabs her friend and the start to dance together, the HB7 grabs me and we sandwich HB5. This is where things go awry. Because it is HB5 that is sandwiched, when HB7 leaves, I am stuck dancing with HB5. While we are dancing and I am figuring out a good way to split and find HB7, HB7 finds another dance partner.

TL;DR: Awesome open with HB7, but I get stuck with her friend, HB5.

After a bit the music stops so that some of the frat guys can attempt a rap battle (WTF?!?!) that was just sad. HB5 and I go to another room to talk and I find out that she is from out of town. I decide that it is probably best not to #-close with her because the likelyhood that we will both be down to party at the same time and place in very low. I use the opportunity to work on my small talk skills and drop my rock climbing DHV. The music comes back on and we go back to dance. I'm stuck with HB5 for the rest of the party (it gets broken up by the cops at midnight) because I can't think of a good way to leave. The up side is that she wants to be with HB7 and her dance partner while we dance. I'm getting IOI from HB7 like crazy (even though she is dancing with another guy!). When the party breaks up I decide to get HB7's # (I feel kinda bad because I think that HB5 got jealous that I didn't ask for her #). This is where I follow seddit to the t. I pull out my phone and say "Give me your number" and something else about partying together again. It works like a charm.

TL;DR: I get my first #-close and it is so easy

I hear HB7 talking with some friends about going to play beer pong somewhere else, but it sounds like a private party, so I don't interject. My friend says that he knows of another party at AGR (I don't fin out till later that this means Alpha Gamma Rho, so for a while I had no idea what he was talking about and it creates problems). He starts telling any girl that he could find about a party a AGR because we need girls to get into the party. No one knows what he is talking about. The only information I am able to get out of him is what street it is on. I decide to try getting girls on my own, but with so little info I'm stuck and don't have any success. If I had more info I think that I could have done it because some of the girls were into me (I always opened with shoulder kino). There is one girl (an HB7) that I end up talking to for a bit and she has an unlit cig out. I carry around a lighter cause a lot of my friends smoke (and now I know that it can lead to a good open). I offer her a light and not but 5 seconds go by when another guy comes up and offers to light her cig. I'm like wtf, but I don't show it. She turns us both down so as not to be rude. Luckily I am able to keep the convo going while the other guy leaves. She seems really out of it and I figure its best not to try anything. It was a good thing because I find out later that she was on coke.

TL;DR: frustrated about not having info and a guy swoops in on my move. Question: When a guy uses your move on the same girl when you are still there and it lowers you value what do you do?

End of the night. We end up at this really sad party that has a lot of cool, nice guys (total AFCs) but like four girls. We stick around because we end up getting into good convos with the guys and a friend of mine is there (he is shitfaced). A little after we get to this party I text HB7: "You want some <friend> and <me> at your party." I was trying to play it cool and make it seem like we would be doing her a favor by joining her party. I know that the text game is tricky, so how did I do? She never texted back, but it was late, so I figured she was asleep or WAY drunk.

TL;DR: The night died off, but I tried my hand at the text game.

So what did I learn. Well, this stuff of seddit works like a charm. My friend thinks that I am a God because I #-closed with his friend HB7. Above all, though, when you want to do something with a girl, never phrase it as a question. Questions open you up to rejection and a command makes you look like a confident alpha.