I'm making myself inferior to attractive women - I need some serious reframing here

chumpta · 2011-01-23T22:16:49+00:00

this is why roissy hates "betas" so much. they fuck everything up for everyone else by creating entitled women.

I need to reframe them, I need to bring them down to my level, I need to demystify attractive girls.

step 1 in the reframe, dont bring them down to your level, bring yourself up higher than theirs. and maybe knock them down a peg or two just for fun.

2011-01-23T20:54:20+00:00

I talk to all women with the intention of not getting anywhere romantically or sexually with them. This gives me the advantage of filtering out the personalities I don't enjoy, but also makes it very easy for me to converse with all types of females. I have very rarely been given the cold shoulder, even by the type of attractive women you describe. This may or may not work for you, the reason it works for me is because I truly don't care if anything happens and simply walk away if I don't feel the conversation is going anywhere interesting.

TofuTofu · 2011-01-23T22:11:30+00:00

"You're putting the pussy on a pedastal." -Anchorman

IMO the best way to achieve what you're trying to do is two-fold:

1- Develop some serious inner game and determine what your values are. I highly recommend The Blueprint Decoded by RSD to help you in this.

2- Get blown out a hundred times or so by attractive women. It will help you realize that a lot of HBs are vapid and don't deserve the value men arbitrarily assign to them. Not saying all of them are like this, but assuming your inner game is solid, you'll be able to see, "Gee, maybe she's not better than me, after all."

Good luck!

EDIT: Having gone through these steps personally, I can honestly say it's a rare occasion when I don't feel like I am either THE MOST AWESOME or ONE OF THE MOST AWESOME people in whatever venue I am in. Why is this? Delusional self-worth? Probably. Who cares, I'm awesome! :)

You want to genuinely feel that way and that any girl in the venue would be LUCKY to even be talking to you. Get to that frame of mind and you'll find venues with lots of HBs are not all that intimidating.

2011-01-23T22:47:50+00:00

Briefly, the asshole effect is real: most of the men who "treat women badly" also have game. A true asshole is never afraid to approach any woman, no matter how attractive, and then treat her like shit. I'm not advising you to be an asshole - I'm advising you to learn from assholes. Sometimes I ask myself "If I were a total dick, how would I open this set?" Sometimes the ideas that come to me are so funny I can't resist trying them, even though I'm genuinely a nice person. Women with high self-esteem are secretly dying for this approach because it shows you aren't a beta.

07SS · 2011-01-23T21:07:00+00:00

I'm pretty sure you give a neg to those types of girls to take them down a notch.

2011-01-23T22:14:17+00:00

I need to bring them down to my level

So, are you inherently below these women? I'm guessing not. What gives?

As soon as you realize your value and the fact that "being with" one of these girls doesn't affect your inherent value, you will stop wanting them so badly. Start with demystifying your perceived low value and the demystification of these alleged high-value girls will fall into place. Nothing special is happening in their heads.

Barney21 · 2011-01-24T08:07:43+00:00

Loud music kills convo but doesn't interfere with visual attractiveness. It's not a level playing field, because women derive status primarily on visual attractiveness, but men don't. You might want to try an easier venue if you lack confidence.

Title	I'm making myself inferior to attractive women - I need some serious reframing here
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Date	January 23, 2011 8:50 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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