Trouble with escalation

allmyfreindsaredead · 2011-05-24T04:30:51+00:00

If you're kinoing, then there's already some sexuality in your conversation.

I typically assume that a girl who doesn't give eye contact is either creeped out, bored, or nervous. One way to get eye contact is to look away while talking and pause for a moment until she looks at you, then look into her eyes and finish your statement.

Rlight · 2011-05-24T10:41:13+00:00

This is probably the most common intermediate question and it is the one I am still struggling with. I usually answer the questions that revolve around "I'm too afraid to approach", "What do I say after I approach", "I like this one girl, what should I do", etc. Those beginner questions have an obvious answer: Approach often and learn.

Now I am like you. I approach with no hesitation. I open most of the sets I approach. I get the girl laughing, I get kino started and often get it reciprocated. I have a good conversation with her for 15-30 minutes. I haven't noticed any issues with eye-contact like you describe but I know what you mean about feeling like attraction never gets high enough. It's like we have a very good, pleasant conversation and when it is done, it feels done. Either I am bored with her or she is bored with me. I used to get a lot of numbers at that point but I've sort of stopped that. The percentage of flakes was too high.

My wing insists that persistence is the correct solution. I must admit, he is terrible at approach and opening but he somehow manages to close the small number of women he does initiate with. He tells me that you just can't give up as long as there is any interest/attraction there. I tend to just give up after the conversation feels done and I don't pursue her because I don't want to make what has been a pleasant conversation awkward. He pursues the few girls he opens until they agree to go out with him (or sleep with him) or until they completely remove him from their life (block his calls, delete him from Facebook, etc.)

I can't guarantee it works but I offer it to you as a suggestion since we don't often get these types of intermediate questions with useful advice. If you aren't getting blown out by women (like I rarely get truly blown out) it is very likely you aren't pushing hard enough for a long enough amount of time.

clutchPUA · 2011-05-24T18:06:33+00:00

First, you shouldn't need to stay in a set for more than 30 minutes if you are just going in for a # close (which is usually what I try for anyways). Know a few canned dhv routines, know a few good stories to tell, finally know a few bar games to play, like 5 questions, marry fuck kill, etc. That should last you 30 minutes, remember let the girl fluff talk first.

As far as Kino goes, go watch lovedrop/mystery's youtube videos on kino escalation.

Title	Trouble with escalation
Author	allmyfreindsaredead
Upvotes	6
Comments	10
Date	May 23, 2011 11:46 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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