FR: Work Training | seduction

This is my second FR, and although I should have been writing all of these reports down from the get go so I could get better at just capturing the important stuff. However, I gotta start somewhere and I really could use some advice from some other more experienced PUAs.

FR: Work Training

Back story: So I just began to work for a Company that sends “classes” of employees who start at the same time to trainings around the US. This years training was down south. I have met a portion of these other employees that were going to this training with me, but there were some that I hadn’t met until I got to the airport to hop on my flight.

Sunday Day 6/26: When I arrived at the airport and got through security, I found some fellow co-workers I new with one other girl I didn’t. As soon as I saw this girl I was blown away… this girl is a solid HB10 – no joke… I am an extremely hard critiquer and I can say HB 10 with confidence. Whether you chose to believe that or not is really besides the point. This girl is hot by my standards (Brunette, Blue eyes, double Ds, and you could bounce a ping pong off any part of her body). Anyways, I was introduced to “HB10” and I knew then and there that I had to do my best to run the best game of my life over the next few days.

After we exchange introductions and pleasantries the 7 of us headed over to the airport bar. While there, I realized that there were 5 girls, 1 gay guy, and myself. I would have an easy time being the alpha male and leader of men. I directly went into controlling the conversation while engaging everyone but the HB10. About 30 minutes later we all left the bar and hopped on our plane for CA. Once we arrived, fate turned out to be on my side. I got in the same rental car as the HB10 did (and we sat in the back seat… me behind the driver, her riding bitch). Therefore, we were close next to each other for about an hour and this was an easy way to start some initial Keno, begin some Negs, and just in general breed some familiarity.

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Monday 6/27: After our training came to completion at the resort on Monday at 5pm, we all headed out to the pool and volleyball courts. A few guys and myself hopped on the courts while the girls sat by the pool spectating. The other guys immediately took there shirts off, but I had left mine on. Not because I was embarrassed, but rather because when I am not working or Sarging I like to get in shape (this came out of being a fat kid for years and wanting to change it). So I didn’t take my shirt off because I didn’t want to fall into the D-bag category. So about 45 minutes into the game I was simply over heating and I couldn’t take it any more. In between serves I pull my shirt off so as to just be wearing my bathing suite now and I hear whispers and muttering from the spectators (including HB10). I believe at this point I displayed some DHV spikes without doing much (or doing a ton if you want to count the sheer number of hours it has taken me to go from fatty to pretty damn good shape). We kept playing awhile, but then it was time to go to dinner at 7pm.

At dinner, it came up that I was physically fit (9 girls, 1 gay dude, 1 straight dude, and me). I spoke a little about why I like to be in shape and just kind of rode it off to not seem super stuck up, but it was definitely a hot topic and everyone paid attention. Once dinner was done a few of us walked back to the pool rather than change (my good friend LAURA, myself, and HB10). While at the pool, the three of us started to have our first “real conversation” – as opposed to me just peacocking and negging. Soon enough though this conversation was cut-off as we realized that it was time for the evening’s social event. As a result of our talking, we did not have time to change. LAURA had to leave to call her BF, so HB10 and I walked over to the social event location at the resort.

We didn’t know exactly where the event was so we walked upstairs in the resort. The gatherin wasn’t there. However, we did find a stash of alcohol for the open bar. Since we new these types of open bars are quite regulated we thought it would be best to stash a few bottles of wine under a table with a long skirt and come back and recover it later. We also snagged a couple beers each and headed outside to the social gathering. While at the gathering we mingled in the group of our fellow office classmates along with various other people. LAURA had showed up and had the great idea that we could keep getting more beers from the open bar even before we finished them so by the time the social was over and the bar was closed… we would have a good stash to drag back to the pool. So over the next hour we accumulated about 15 beers and decided it was time to go grab our wine and head to the pool. I especially thought this whole idea helped my cause because it bonded us with a common mischievous goal. So, we snuck out of the social area with alcohol and a couple co-workers in tow. Once we reached the pool we drank while going between the hot-tub and the pool (to cool off).

While we were hanging out at the pool, I once again tried to direct my main focus to the other people but occasionally give HB10 attention. It also helped that I was an All American swimmer in high school so I could “lead the group” by teaching them ways to blow bubble rings and squirt water out of their hands like a squirt gun (this also gave me a nice excuse to tease HB 10).

Once 11 hit, the security guard came up and said it was time to close the pool. Instead of calling it a night, I invited everyone back to my shared room at the resort. When we got there – my roommate from another office had invited his classmates of about 10ish people over and they were drinking / playing music/ and telling each other stories. The topic of dangerous animals came up and everyone was telling little this/that stories. Nothing to exciting. It was time to reaffirm that I was an Alpha not a Beta so I took the floor and retold (with embellishments) my Running of the bulls story from Pamplona Spain. I had the entire group’s attention (about 15 people) for about 15 minutes. After that, I laced it straight into how our profession of business consulting was very similar to that of prostitution. This got tons of laughs and let me run the conversation for another 15 minutes.

At this point, (1am) my roommates’ guests started to clear out as it was about 1am. It was cooling off outside so I offered HB10 a bathrobe and hat as she was still in her damp bikini. She gladly accepted and this was the first thing I had done for her that was more along the lines of secure. I guess I was hoping to build comfort here, but I can honestly say that I didn’t premeditate it that way (note to self… thanks PUAit420 from your comment in my Bus Stop FR). I started walking her over to her hotel room, but on the way she said – “Let’s sneak back in the hot tub”. I agreed so I boosted her over the locked fence and climbed it as well. As we were about to climb in, I through out there, “Hey, do you just want to sleep out here on the pool furniture?” (there were plush lie-down type chairs with squishy thick cushions). HB10 accepted and so I walked back to my room to go pickup some bedding and bring it back out. This was my first time that I was isolating her and at a point I could have deeper conversation. We talked about everything from world travel, career goals, ex’s, and funny/akward/embarrsing stories). We both finally crashed side by side at about 3am, but nothing happened. It just didn’t feel like it was the right time to swoop in. Although I did feel like I was playing my cards right and building strong rapport through DHV spikes, Leader of men tendencies, comedy, and disinterest… I had just met her and she was a high caliber kind of girl that guys grovel on the street for. In our conversation earlier in the night she had pointed out that whenever she goes on dates, guys get over zealous right away and turn into “clinger stage 9s”. Therefore, I was cautious not to push to hard and instead let the tension build. The next morning I boosted her out of the fenced pool space and let her walk home. I then headed back to my room to take a shower and get ready for additional training.

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Tuesday 6/28: After training concluded at about 4:30pm, it was a rainy nasty day. Therefore, everyone had gone to his or her own rooms to chill until dinner. I had snagged HB10’s number from my friend LAURA, so I texted her and asked her what everyone was doing. She replied that she didn’t know, but that I could come and kick it with her in her hotel room. I headed over. Once I got there she was in her watching TV and just relaxing. We discussed the boringness of the days training and then decided to play lines (a drawing game where you take turns attempting to complete squares). To play this I climbed up on the bed with her and so we were side by side. As we played the game we gave gentle shoves back and forth, declarations of loathing when the other would do well, and finally are legs started to intertwine a little. This was my first real keno push and it was going well. At that point the roommate of hers showed up. I expected HB10 to pull back but she didn’t. So, we concluded our game and then all headed over to dinner to meet up with the rest of my class mates at 7pm. During dinner it became apparent that everyone wanted to go into the town that night and hit the bars, but there were no leaders to really set it up. Therefore, I got the tables attention and announced that we were going to meet up at 8pm at the foyer where I would have cabs coming to pick us up and take us out for our last night of training. Everyone agreed and I think this once again Alpha theme of the week.

Once we all got downtown we all started to drink heavily. I know you aren’t supposed to drink when you PUA, but I was trying to lead by example in hopes of getting everyone to cut loose (we have some uptight people in the class that don’t know how to go for it unless others are well under way). We hung out for a while at the first bar. HB10 was at my side for most of that time, but when we went to the next bar - a few minutes in I left her side of the table (we were sitting next to each other) and I started up a jealousy plot line by going and sitting with another girl doing some keno and having a conversation that was loud, attention getting, and looked like a good time. After about 30 minutes of this everyone decided that the bar wasn’t really our scene and we were headed elsewhere.

Once arriving at the third bar I decided that I wanted to celebrate my first training with these new individuals and so I bought a round of shots. I got HB10 to help me pick out the shot – Royal Pussy was the choice. Once everyone had a shot I made a toast to commemorate our first training and captured the attention of the group with some funny references and connections to our line of work. Everyone had there shot and I looked like a baller. HB10 and I walked back over to the bar for another drink and I demanded she buy me a drink since I beat her in the line game earlier on her bed. She conceded and bought my drink of choice for us. At this point it was time to head to another bar and so it was time for the last destination that was more of a club type scene.

When we showed up at the fourth bar, it was packed. I walked over as close as I could with HB10 to try to order, but there was not way to get the attention of the bartender. HB10 informed me she would have better luck (remember the double D’s). She weaseled her way in and convinced some dude to buy her a couple drinks, as soon as she got them she brought them back over and sat in my lap. While she was on my lap, we hung out with the group of co-workers for a while and then hit the dance floor. After about 15 minutes HB10 just walked off the dance floor. I didn’t really feel like chasing so I stayed on the floor and hung out with other girls from my work. I immediately though about what Mystery had once said about dance floors…. STAY AWAY! Damn. So I finally left and headed back to the group’s booth. When I sat down HB10 didn’t even acknowledge my presence. Oh well, I didn’t care that much. So I started another convo, and then headed to the bathroom.

When I got back the majority of the group was departing for the night / piling into a cab. All that was left was HB10, me and another guy that was in deep conversation with her. At this point I just though… FUCK! I had been working this girl at all the angles the last 50+ hours and now she is just ignoring me. I immediately came back to her comment about her life being the “[insert name here] Show”, and realized that this is what she does. She gets attention from a dude, then tries to draw more, and then sees how many hoops that she can get them to jump through. Luckily I don’t think I had really jumped through any yet (correct me if you disagree based on the fact pattern above) so in my mind I told myself, fuck it… I am calling a cab.

I stepped outside, looked up the local cab company and gave them a ring. The dispatcher informed me it would be 30 minutes. BLAH. So I went back in to finish my drink and try to Sarge and start a jealousy plotline / cool vibes without being a wallflower. However, about 30 seconds later my phone started ringing. The cab was already here. I was still sitting by HB10 and so without even thinking about it said on the phone, “Ok I will be right out for my cab”. Without even acknowledging HB10s existence I said, “Night Chris” and headed for the door. I got outside, climbed in the back seat, and was telling the cabby directions, when out of the left corner of my eye – to my amazement, HB10 was running towards the cab. She hopped in and the cab driver pulled away. I looked at her and said, “Oh, you think you are getting in MY cab?”. She laughed and then jumped me by starting to make out hardcore in the back seat. I was intoxicated, but I remember so clearly had good she tasted, how smooth her skin was, and how full those lips were. We continued this for the 15-minute cab ride. I paid for the cab and it was basically a race to her room.

Once we got inside we bolted the door so her roommate couldn’t come in and hooked up. Now I have had my fair share of sex over the last 8 years (I’m 24 and she is 28) so I can safely say some is better than others… But even for being hammered, this was right there at the top of the list. F-closing this girl was the most satisfying PUA moment of my limited career. When we woke up the next morning we cuddled for a while but eventually had to get up for our last half day of training. As I pulled my clothes on and headed for the door I turned to her gave her a hug and kissed her on the cheek. She didn’t pull away, but she didn’t turn it into full on kiss. At this point I didn’t know if this was the sign of the awkwardness to come or what. Regardless, I guess I was hoping for a full on embrace – is that weird?

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Wednesday 6/29: As the day went on and we left the resort, we climbed back in to the rental car (same seating as before) and had a good time telling funny stories, random tales, and exploits from other / this training (not including our hook-up antics of course). When we got to the airport HB10 was as friendly as normal. All 10 of us from the class that were flying back to Seattle grabbed lunch, and after lunch she asked if I wanted to play cards. We proceeded to play Egyptian war for about an hour per her request 1 v 1 while everyone else just chilled around us on other seats. At this point I was feeling good because we were interacting in the same positive/fun manner as before we hooked up.

Unfortunately we didn’t have seats next to each other on the flight, but that was fine because I slept the whole way… I had gotten so little sleep the last couple nights and the limited amount I did get was terrible. Once we landed in Seattle I asked her and the gay dude if they wanted a ride back to their houses because I had drove and they had taken cabs originally. They both accepted. On the drive home I asked them if they wanted to grab dinner (I had no groceries in my house and didn’t want to do any work that night). The gay dude had plans already, but HB10 accepted. So we dropped him off and headed to her house since she lives downtown in the city. Once there, she changed and we headed out to a nice / somewhat classy joint.

During dinner our conversation was primarily focused on deeper topics such as family members, which lead to discussion about the death of her father a couple years ago, dating with age gaps, her 7 year relationship she had gotten out of a few months ago, and our future career plans etc in relation to whether we would stay with this firm or work somewhere else. Based on this conversation I felt pretty strongly that this girl isn’t just a complete slut and is extremely intelligent (you have to be to be in our line of work), has some strong morale fiber, and has worked hard in her life). We left dinner and headed back to her apartment on foot (it was about 7 blocks). On the way back we bumped into each other, put our arms around each other for a bit, and then finally relinquished.

I really wanted to reach out and hold her hand, but was unsure because I felt like she was A) Really into me and it would be ok, or B) more likely that she was kind of in to me, but wasn’t ready for a “clinger stage 9” just because we had hooked up. That second option may make her sound like slut in this FR, but I still don’t get that vibe. I honestly think I just ran perfect game on her up to this point and it would have been hard for any non-prude girl to say no (I don’t mean that to be bragging because I am a NEWB PUA, but this time it just clicked). We got back to her place and she invited me in to watch some TV. We hopped on the couch but resided not to drink since we had done so much over the last few days. While watching TV we were side by side again (arms, legs, hips touching), but I just felt weird putting my arm around her or holding her hand because I didn’t want to send any DLV spikes. I had played hard to get and demonstrated higher value / “out of her league” vibes all week (which had gotten me the F-close…). I guess I just didn’t want to abandon those tactics even if I had already decided I wanted to pursue a relationship with this girl. After a couple hours I declared I should go so I could make it to work tomorrow (time constraint). Before I left I went to use her bathroom. When I came out she was in her bedroom. I couldn’t see exactly where (Should I have walked around the corner?) so I just called out, “Hey I am taking off”. She walked to the front door and we exchanged a long 5ish second hug. Once again, I wanted to kiss her or something. FFS – I had F-closed it the night before, but since in the morning when I kissed her on the cheek she didn’t try to initiate more… I just didn’t want to push to hard. So I left.

Thursday 6/30: She invited me through email to a get together with a couple other co-workers on Friday. I told her yes and asked a few “how are you doing” type questions. She responded and continued the conversation. This went back a forth a few times with her sending the last message that night (she worked super late).

Friday 7/1: Our firm had this day off, but I got screwed and had to work it along with Saturday and Monday (the 4th) since our client has a tight deadline. However, I got the clearance with my boss to leave by 3pm to go meet up with “friends” (HB10). Since the intern wasn’t out on the firm holiday, I had to go grab donuts for the Client’s employees. On my walk over I texted HB10 and asked if I could leave my computer at her house before we went out with the friends (he house was near where we were headed). She called me a few seconds later and said, “Hey, so another friend of mine invited me to the Oregon Coast for the weekend so I am going to cancel our plans”.

I am thinking FFS, I already bought tickets to the event. Instead of sounding pissy though and sending DLV spikes, I said, “Oh that’s fine, no big deal. How are you going to return your tickets?”

She replied, “Oh you bought your tickets? I haven’t yet…” At this point I am thinking WTF, this was locked down last night, but now she is tweaking stuff around… almost like she is trying to push me through a hoop/compliance test (THIS could have been my first big mistake by accepting her invitation). For the record, She wasn’t a complete bitch about it though because while on the phone with me she called the event on her hardline phone (with me still on the cell in the other hand) and begged them to refund my money – which they did. Once she finished that she struck up some casual conversation as I was walking back from the donut shop. I negged her about her phone and her groggly voice from lack of sleep, but all in all we had a nice 5 minute genuine phone call. Before I hung up (and I feel like this was my second big FUCKING mistake). Finally, I said – well since I don’t get to drive out to the lake with my friends on the 4th since I am working, do you have any recommendations for doing the 4th in Seattle (I just moved here). She threw out some general options, but then said, “My friends and I might go out on another friends boat OR we might watch the fireworks from my apartments rooftop. You can PROBABLY come to those, but you should just use them as a backup plan since I don’t know if there will be room on the boat or if we will come back to my place for sure”. I blew off that statement like it was no thing, but at that point I realized that this girl had started to take the power. Between scheduling and cancelling our event on Friday and then dangling a MAYBE you can come invite for the 4th – I feel like I lost all momentum. I need help getting it back ☹

So as you can see this is a beast of a FR, that is less flashy than my other, but I wanted to get some feedback on stuff I did right/wrong, and how I move forward. I love sarging, but this girl is incredible and I would like to not fuck it up. I can usually get a #, K, or F close… but always after that for girls I am actually into…. I have trouble converting. Sigh…. Thanks fellow PUAers!

[–]vinniS 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

mmm. im no alpha. but i kind a agree with logar. there needs to be some sort of hook. you need to make her chase you. here is a quick quote from Ross Jeffries that i think explains a bit of your problem:" You see, after years of experience and study, I've come to the conclusion that a woman can only experience real passion for if on some level she believes she could do something to lose you! Understand that when you show this willingness to walk away, in any area of your life, it conveys the message that you are the prize to be pursued, that you are the person of value, and they had better take advantage of the opportunity. This is an attitude that will move you forward in any area that's challenging you. By way of contrast, if you show a non-stop, forever and ever devotion to her, and put up with her crap and ambivalence, then where is that tension of knowing she could lose you? Answer: nowhere! And that's why you get nowhere when you put up with this kind of stuff! If you've seen an initially hot relationship grow ice-cold, this is one big reason!"

maybe other real alphas can enlighten this situation.

[–]Badvibez 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Title	FR: Work Training
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Date	July 2, 2011 8:36 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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